Judging Freedom - Lt.COL Karen Kwiatkowski: Biden and Genocide

Episode Date: September 10, 2024

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Thank you. Hi, everyone. Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom. Today is Tuesday, September 10th, 2024. Lieutenant Colonel Karen Kwiatkowski joins us now. Colonel Kwiatkowski, always a pleasure. Karen, you have a great piece on judgenap.com and elsewhere on using, on when words lose their meaning. And the word that I would like to focus on is genocide. And I'd like to use the lens of your analysis to address genocide in Gaza. But before we do that, I want to pick your brain on the breaking news of the day, both in Russia and in Gaza. The breaking news in Russia is that the Ukrainians shot 140 drones at Moscow, one of which got through, struck a home and killed a woman asleep in her home. The other news, I may have mentioned this to you last week, I don't know if we knew it at the time, the military academy in Poltava that was destroyed by the Russians, the death toll is now up to 720, making it a significant and profound use of Russian military to kill cadets and instructors. The instructors were from Sweden

and Poland. We don't know if an American instructor was there. An American lieutenant colonel is reported to have died at the same moment that the attacks came through. The DOD says he died in Poland. We don't know if he died at the academy and then his body was removed to Poland for identification. Who knows? But your thoughts on where all of this is going. And add to this, the incursion in Kursk is still going on, even though you don't read about it or see mention of it anywhere today. Yeah, yeah. Well, the desperation level is rising. And I'll quote from Tony Blinken, I guess, just a day or two ago. And he goes, we don't have much time left in the fighting season in Ukraine. And I thought, you know, so typical of these people that for war, for them, war is just

it's just a game. It's like football, you know, football season. Oh, the fighting season in Ukraine. It'll be winding down soon for the winter in order to pick up again in the spring. I mean, it's just nuts. But I think there is a great deal of desperation. And we're seeing it, of course, in Ukraine. We have our own election issues, which are obviously problematic for whatever's

going on in Ukraine in terms of their continued aid. But, you know, he's washed through and replaced a bunch of his advisors, Zelensky has just recently. And, you know, for those, you know, if you get your history from World War II movies or any other type of movies, which so many of us really do, you know, it's a very desperate signal when you're firing all your advisors at the end of a long war. So they're at the end of a long war, but the desperation level is extremely high. And go ahead. What would they gain by attempting to attack Moscow? First of all, they must be aware, their intelligence must be aware of the air defenses that Moscow has, which according to our people are the best

in the world. And secondly, all this was was a pinprick, though it's an annoyance, and it's annoying you know who lives and works in Moscow. So what do they gain, Karen? You know, honestly, I think the obvious thing that they gain is to poke the bear and to cause some sort of overreaction that will somehow energize Western enthusiasm to add aid to Ukraine and to give them permissions or whatever they think they need to make this thing blow up. So by doing this, it's a blow up. But as you were talking, it occurred to me that if I was Zelensky and his people, you know, he's driven out, I don't know, half the population is refugees somewhere else that most of them aren't

coming back. Those that have remained have watched their country become impoverished and blown up and under stress. They're tired of it. They want change. There's no elections, of course. You know, and you can't go vote. They've suspended both parliamentary and presidential elections. Maybe, maybe Zelensky and his people want to use up those drones before they're used on Kiev by the Ukrainian army. Wow. By the Ukrainian army. Meaning you're talking about a mutiny. Well, yeah, because, well, and the idea of a mutiny, organized or disorganized, I mean, Ukraine is having a terrible time. And we're seeing it even in the Western media, which means that it's been going on for a long time and it's unavoidable. We have to talk

about it. And that is they can't recruit. They have fewer people to recruit because people who love their children have gotten them out of Ukraine. Young people can pack up and go and they've done that. So they've expanded the, you know, what do we got left? And they're recruiting people that are of various ages, most of not, you know, they're not appropriate for soldiers. And of course, those Ukrainians, they have to be, you know, forced into, you know, they're picking them up off the street, they're packing them to the front line. They were two years ago providing some training, but now the training that they're getting is minimal. It's unsatisfactory. And they are, you know, if you want to talk about a meat grinder, talk to Ukrainians about it because they understand better than we do. They're the ones suffering these losses. They're

the ones that are seeing people with legs blown off and hearing, hey, we don't have your guys gone and we didn't wait to pick up his body, and the Russians moved forward. So they're suffering greatly. They're advising what's left of their families not to serve. This is a precursor, and also the way Zelensky's treating his own government, purging and purging and purging again. It's a precursor to a civil war. And many times when you lose a war, obviously, and Ukraine is losing this war. This was a lost war from the beginning, something we forced upon them in hopes of making profit. And we've made profit. This country and the people that run the deep state in this country have profited.

They've profited a great deal. They have increased fear. We've got ourselves and our favorite companies in on the resource reallocation of what was Ukraine. So we're profiting greatly from all of this. We've refreshed all of our military arsenals. We got rid of the old stuff. And we've got an agreed-upon popular concern that our military is not funded well enough. So as we go into the next couple of years when nobody has any money and everybody's fighting, the military will be in good stead to get, the U.S. military will

be in good stead to justify an ever-increasing budget because, oh my gosh, we got rid of everything to help Ukraine. Oh, too bad they lost. No, they were always going to lose. So this is a big problem. And the people in Ukraine get this very much. And not everybody in Ukraine supports Zelensky. This is clear because we know from polling that Zelensky does not allow, that he's not popular. And plus the people around him who are extreme nationalists, I don't know, Nazi party, certainly people that are willing to wear Nazi insignia on their uniforms. I don't know what their beliefs are, but they're certainly willing to publicize their political view. Not the majority. They are not the majority in Ukraine. They never are. So, yeah, his government is vulnerable. The country has lost the war and they have very little left. Many of the people have gone and they're not coming back.

So in a time like this, when these things happen, you have to expect governments to collapse. And when governments collapse, there's new struggles for power. And drones come in very handy when you have a struggle for power. All kinds of weapons do. Here's, just to goad you a little bit, here's Sir Peter Moore, the head of MI6, and Bill Burns, the head of the CIA, at a public conference held by the Financial Times this weekend. Supposedly, it's the first time the head of MI6 and the head of CIA were together in the same room with a public audience answering questions from them, but they did. Their comments are really absurd. Chris, nine and 10 back to back. Typically audacious and bold on the part

of the Ukrainians to try and change the game in a way. And I think they have, to a degree, changed the narrative around this. The Kursk offensive is a significant tactical achievement. It's not only been a boost in Ukrainian morale, it has exposed some of the vulnerabilities of Putin's Russia and of his military. And it's important to remember how this started in this phase with Putin mounting a war of aggression in February 2022. And two and a half years later, that failed. It continues to fail. The Ukrainians will continue to fight. We will continue to help them to fight. And it's difficult. So MI6 and CIA are now in the PR business. Bald face lying to say this started in 2022 and Putin has failed. You can respond if you want. I mean, it's really absurd that these guys would demean themselves this way.

Yeah, yeah. Well, look at who they work for. Right. You know, Burns is actually a respected or had been a respected diplomat in his past. But, yeah, they work for, you know, anybody with any self-respect would not work for the for the prime minister of Great Britain and they wouldn't work for Biden. They wouldn't work for the Biden administration. I think this is extremely clear. So these guys are even if individually they are intelligent to publicly have the MI6 and CIA sitting on a couch taking questions from an audience that is ludicrous on its face. And they can't be believed. It's ludicrous on its face because they're professional liars. They're not going to tell the truth. No. And you're going to ask the CIA, you know, tell us about some of your projects.

Oh, we have many projects. And let me, you know, of course. No, it's not. All right. Moving over to Israel, Prime Minister Netanyahu announced over the weekend, this is the third time he said this, that he has instructed the IDF to be prepared to invade Lebanon. The IDF has shot an American woman in the head, murdered her. She was peacefully demonstrating. The prime minister of Great Britain, who's on his way to the US, has said Great Britain is going to dial back what it's sending Israel

because they're using the weapons in ways that violate Israeli law. I don't know if that's an act of deception or for domestic political purposes. What do you think? Yeah, well, it was kind of good news to hear that Great Britain was thinking about doing that. But I'll believe it when I see it. Certainly the United States is the largest contributor and the largest backer and sending the most of the destructive capability, and we're creating all that debris that's piling up in Gaza, and the human cost is on us. It's on the United States. It's on the Biden administration. So they can say what they want, but they're murderers

and they will kill Americans just the same. And the lies are really over the top about what it is that we're doing. And it's insane to watch. And I saw some of the State Department and the Security Council commentary, and they were getting asked questions about the American that was shot in the head. That's not by accident. She was targeted, and I believe she was a journalist of a sort as well. And, you know, had Biden called the family or anything like that? And, you know, their answers are just, bottom line, what they're saying is it does not matter. We are owned by Netanyahu's government and he demands compliance and we are complying. That's what they should be saying. And it doesn't matter about our constitution, about the Congress, about declaring war, not declaring war. It doesn't matter about genocide. It doesn't matter about people being murdered or destroying the environment. I mean, talk about global warming. What do you think blowing up all these bombs and guns? I mean, where are the greens, man? I don't get any of this.

I don't. And that's because we hear what we're meant to hear in the West. We are told a story. And never mind, put your heads down. We're spending money and we're making money. And that's how it's going to be. Karen, has the word genocide lost its meaning? Well, in Biden's use of genocide when he talked about Russia and Ukraine a couple years ago or

towards the beginning of that operation and then denying genocide in Gaza. Yeah, that that alone. And he is theoretically the most powerful man in the world, whatever that means. So but you have Biden and I don't know if he's out of, you know, if he was just saying things that were on the top of his mind or someone wrote those speeches. However, I believe the speechwriters are informing him that genocide applies in Ukraine when it doesn't, and genocide isn't even being considered in Gaza when what we have before us is a daily demonstration of what genocide looks like in the 21st century. That's what we have, but they won't use that word. So the word has no meaning. I don't know how we can get people to think about this because, you know, words are how we grasp concepts. And if we have a word and if it means something, we can go on and, you know, we can learn. But if words have no meaning, if the

Humpty Dumpty rule, you know, the words mean whatever I say they mean. And that's what our governments do. They tell us what words mean. And they're not in that business. We don't have to accept that. We need to push back against that. Here's President Biden in February of 22, accusing President Putin of committing a genocide. Cut number 18. Your family budget, your ability to fill up your tank, none of it should hinge on whether a dictator declares war and commits genocide a half a world away. Yes, I call this genocide. It has become clearer and clearer that Putin is just trying to wipe out

the idea of his family being trained. A little tough to understand him, but he was reinforcing the fact that he was speaking of President Putin in Ukraine when he called it genocide. Yeah. And you know, it's amazing looking back to see how bad shape he was even two and a half years ago.

But the other aspect of this genocide is very much projection because, you know, the 2014 Minsk agreements and even before and all the debate of what was happening in the eastern part of Ukraine to the Russian-speaking people in the Donbas, the things that were being done to them by Ukrainian nationalists, and actually is still being done throughout Ukraine. You know, they've banned the Russian church. They've banned the Ukrainian Orthodox church because it's too close to the Russian Orthodox church. They've banned Russian language. People are fined and punished and beat if they speak Russian. Schools, children cannot speak Russian. So very much the,

some of the characteristics of a organized state genocide are being conducted by the Kiev government, and we're paying for that. We are actually helping them do that. We are advising them on how to do that. But then what we say, since we know this so well, we say, oh, no, that's Putin conducting genocide. Well, first off, even the most casual observer of this conflict understands that the Russians were being beat up by Ukraine and Putin basically put an umbrella over them. Now, you can debate if they voted to join Russia. They'll probably have elections in the future and they'll probably vote to join Russia again, as they already have. But these people speak Russian. They're Russians. Putin's interest in this is to preserve Russians from being attacked, abused, denigrated, and

killed by the government in Kyiv. So that's much more likely that we were the ones backing Zelensky and his friends' genocide. But yet we throw that word over there. And that's why it's just a tool. It's an empty tool. And actually, so is Biden, an empty tool. I mean, you really, it's unfair to judge his use of language. Really, honestly, he is incompetent. But it'll be interesting to see how Harris terms it, because she's not stupid. But yeah, it's just... All right, here's Anwar Ibrahim, who's the Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister of Malaysia at the Eastern Economic Forum in Vladivostok last week,

sitting next to President Putin. Let's play six, cut six, followed immediately by cut seven. As I've consistently said, we cannot use the narrative of many in the media or Western capitals that it all began with the 7th of October, Hamas attack. It all began with the 7th of October, Hamas attack. It all began with colonization. It all began with the Nakba in 1948.

It all began because of the reluctance to accept the resolutions of the United Nations consistently, and of continued harassment of settlers. I think the majority of countries have taken a position, including the conclusion of the state of settlers. I think the majority of countries have taken a position, including the recognition of the state of Palestine. But why is it not happening? Because of the intransigence

of Israel, and unfortunately with the total support of the United States. In fact, giving him a standing ovation when atrocities are being committed. That's why I ask my colleagues even in the West, where's the humanity? Where do you talk about justice? Where do you go and preach to us about human rights and democracy? Why is there contradiction when it comes to treatment of issues happening in the world?

And again, you know. Very courageous statement by one of the few leaders of a foreign country to challenge Israel and the United States from a moral perspective. What is the advantage, getting back to Ukraine, what is the advantage of joining NATO? No, I mean, I can see the advantages of expanding NATO for the United States military-industrial complex. I can see that advantage

because, you know, the whole thing about NATO is interoperability and the biggest guy with the biggest stuff, you know, and the biggest poundage and can force everybody else, hey, I've got the standard. My standard is the one you want to do. And, you know, we see this in technology. Remember when operating systems were competing and just all these other things. So the big guy, first guy on the block, the guy with the biggest pocketbook, maybe possibly with the better technology. But we can then say we have the standards. So for NATO, we're creating a huge market of military standards, of military equipment, of process training, targeting, investment, logistics, just about everything you can think about. And it all costs money and the taxpayers pay for it.

But we could create more customers. So from an American, let's say from an America First perspective, we could make a lot of money. We could do better and really shield our own taxpayers from some of the expense of being the world's policemen. So for America, expanding NATO is a great idea. For European countries, it's a rotten idea. It's a terrible idea. What's wrong with just having treaties? What's wrong with just having relationships? Because to become part of NATO,

you are submitting to not NATO rule and NATO decision making, you're submitting to the United States. And that's how it's going to be, because the United States is not submitting to NATO. You're submitting. If you join NATO, you are submitting to the United States. And this is very much what we see in the UN, which is why the UN doesn't work very well. It's not effective. What do you think New London Company dangled before President Zelensky? By the way, over the weekend, three days ago, she admitted that she and her colleagues and British Prime Minister Boris Johnson interfered in the treaty negotiated between Russia and Ukraine in Istanbul in the winter of 2022.

But what do you think she dangled in front of President Zelensky? So, investment, free money, I say free money, unattached money, money that is very subject to enriching various oligarchs or politicians for real. I mean, that kind of money is always part of the icing on the cake. But investment in infrastructure type things, all kinds of projects, money flowing to governments. And, you know, the purpose of government, you know, is supposed to be, I think, in the modern era, we think people, like, you know, you select a government, you choose a government, it serves you, it does certain things for the people. But then governments, what they do, ours, of course,

is a great example of that, our republic, which really isn't a republic anymore, it then takes on a life of its own, and it becomes a player. So the Ukrainian government would have been, if it had joined NATO or put on a track to join NATO, it would have been the recipient, the government, not the people, anything like that. It goes to the government. The money goes to the government. And we do this everywhere. I mean, all of our foreign aid in Africa and around the world from the very beginning, from the 60s, from the 50s, when all of our foreign aid in Africa and around the world, from the very beginning, from the 60s, from the 50s, when we're doing foreign aid, it all went to government people who then distributed it. And very little ever gets out, whether it's military aid, economic aid, technology aid, doesn't matter. The money and the value stays with the government.

And the government uses that to strengthen itself, to ensure it stays wealthy and that it stays on top of things. So as a Zelensky or a previous guy, the guy prior to him and the guy that will take over from him, NATO membership means my government is enriched and I have power and I have advantages that I can dole out to ensure that I'm supported by my own deep state, basically. I can see why they would want to do it, but we do this in order to create captive customers for American technology and American investments, and we don't give up control. So to join NATO is to submit to the United States. In fact, commentary from Shoigu, I don't know if it's Shoigu, one of the, I forget which Russian it was, he's not in charge now, but it was Shoigu, and he said, you know, you Americans, you made a terrible mistake when we wanted to join EU under Yeltsin. We wanted to be a member of the EU. You know, Russia would join. We were very weak and we would have done it.

We would have done it. And had you taken us in, we would have been basically he didn't say lapdog, but he said, you know, we would have folded our paws and jumped when you said jump. So he's joking, of course. Well, he's not joking. Had they had done that, this would have been the result. But, you know, he's making a humorous point that that is how we control. The U.S. controls other countries through these large organizations that have fake missions. Because, again, NATO's mission is not defense of Europe, okay? They haven't defended Europe since the day they were formed up. The wars were all over when they were formed up. So they expand, they create wars, they create crises, they create relationships

that can be leveraged for political purposes. So yeah, NATO doesn't do what it says, and EU doesn't either. In fact, the EU has impoverished and destroyed Germany, who has to kind of fund it all, and turned many European countries into chattel countries, which they never were before. So anyway, I digress. No, you didn't digress. You really, you bored down into all of it, Karen. It's a pleasure. Thank you. Thank you for your time. Thank you for your analysis. Please come back again and join us next week. Absolutely. Thank you, Judge. Of course. All the best. Remaining for today, 4 o'clock Eastern,

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