Judging Freedom - LtCOL. Karen Kwiatkowski : Can the US be Trusted?
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MUSIC Hi everyone, Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom. Today is Tuesday, June
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Colonel Kwiatkowski, always a pleasure, my dear friend.
Thank you very much for joining us
and accommodating my schedule.
Last month in Saudi Arabia, the president gave a talk
in which he condemned neocons and their attitude.
He denounced the United States military adventurism
in the Middle East.
He proclaimed himself a president of peace.
Was it a fraud and a deception?
I guess he was having a moment because none of that is meaningful to him. The neocons, they are applauding him and he is actually out neoconing the neocons right now. So I
guess whatever he says is ephemeral. And again, which is why I don't
think any other country around the planet is going to trust him in terms of negotiations
or anything else. Even, I mean, security alliances, promises that he may make, things that he
says he's going to do, they're're not gonna believe him until he does it.
And of course, any agreements, peace agreements,
it would be ludicrous to deal with President Trump.
So the negotiators, the very human beings
that were across the table from Steve Witkoff
were murdered by the Israelis in the first strike.
Trump boasted about it in a posting.
He posted about 6.30 in the morning on Friday morning.
We were on air when the post first became available.
And the language in there is basically you want to negotiate with us.
You better agree with us or we'll kill you.
Now who would want to negotiate with the United States and who would trust anything that negotiators said?
If Witkoff knew that Trump's statements were deceptive, then Witkoff is not a serious negotiator whose words can't be believed. If Witkoff
didn't know it, then he's just a stooge and a puppet duped by Trump as apparently Marco
Rubio was when he said before Trump's full screen, we had nothing to do with this and
knew nothing about it. Well, you may have known nothing about it, but the CIA, which
supposedly works for you and for the president, obviously did.
Yeah. Yeah, he really can't trust any of the people around him just because of that reason.
Either they are part of his charade that he constantly plays in his bluster,
or they aren't informed. So either way, you can't deal not just with Trump,
but you can't deal with his administration.
And there's really no trusted independent party
that nation to nation,
we're kind of stuck with the executive branch.
And that executive branch is wildly dysfunctional,
as you can see, and really from the head, from the head.
So Trump, what got me is, dysfunctional as you can see and really from the head, from the head. So you know
Trump, what got me is, you know, he goes, oh I invented or I developed
America first so it's up to me to decide what that means. Are you freaking
kidding me? You know he boasts about these votes that he supposedly got, well
that'll never happen. Not that he's not running, but I mean,
he has destroyed credibility for all politicians.
I mean, he's actually outdone them.
Maybe that's what he's trying to do
because he likes to be number one.
You know, he's number one in destroying credibility
of an elected politician.
So, Director of National Intelligence,
Tulsi Gabbard, famously testified in March before one of the congressional committees, I don't know if it was the House under oath, was unanimous and steadfast in its view that the Iranians do not have and were not developing a nuclear weapon.
And the, she didn't say this, but she intimated that MI6 and Mossad agreed.
Watch what the president said when he was asked about this Sunday night on Air Force One, Chris
Cutt number 14.
People always said that you don't believe Iran should be able to have a nuclear weapon.
But how close do you personally think that they were to getting one?
Because Tulsi Gabbard testified in March that the intelligence community said Iran wasn't
building a nuclear weapon.
The IC continues to assess that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon.
I don't care what she said. I think they were very close to having it.
I don't care what she said. Shouldn't she resign from her job? She's the one that gives the
president every morning an intelligence briefing and he says on national
television, I don't care what she said. She's the one that has access to the raw data. He doesn't
and he says, I don't care what she said. Yeah. Yeah. She should resign and a few others that
are opposed to what is going on here should, should stand up and resign, but I don't,
I don't expect that they will. But you know I think H.L. Mencken had a quote
that at some point in democracies we would actually, you know, the idiots would vote and
we would actually be governed by an idiot. And I think unfortunately we probably reached that.
I thought maybe we had reached it with Biden because of his mental handicaps, you know, his
age-related whatever it was. But no, I think we've got an active, completely functional
idiot in charge.
And now if you ever had any doubt about that,
here he is in his own words.
We're going to post three full screens of postings
that he posted today, one of 11.55 in the morning, one of 12.19, one of 12.22, one wonders
what the man does. This is 11.55 this morning. We now have complete and total control of
the skies over Iran. Just as an aside, Ritter says that is absolutely positively untrue,
but that's what he says. Iran had good sky trackers and other defensive equipment and plenty of it, but it doesn't compare to American made, conceived and manufactured stuff.
Nobody does it better than the good old USA, President of the United States.
20 minutes later, we know exactly where the so-called supreme leader is hiding.
He's an easy target target but is safe there. We're not going to take
him out, kill, at least not for now. But we don't want missiles shot at civilians or American
soldiers. Our patience is wearing thin. Thank you for your attention to this matter." And then
three minutes later, as if that wasn't enough. In all caps, unconditional surrenders.
He running this war or is Netanyahu?
I mean, well, they're linked in some way.
I mean, obviously he,
obviously Trump feels very invested in this unwarranted
and unprovoked attack by Israel.
Even though they screwed up his peace talks, maybe he really did think that he was gonna have a meeting on Sunday or maybe he didn't maybe he thought he knew
This was happening, but he seems Trump himself
Unlike the Americans most Americans and really a good much of Congress is as bought and paid for as they are
Most of Congress is not enthusiastically demanding we join this
war.
It seems like only Trump wants to join the war.
So maybe we have to apply the Lindsey Graham rule and just say, look, if you want to fight
this war, please, please put on a uniform, run over there as fast as you can and fight
it.
That's maybe is what he wants to do.
I don't know.
His enthusiasm and his insanity combined are really a sight to behold. I'm really speechless.
How do you think foreign leaders of major countries like say China, Russia, India, Brazil,
react when they see this? How will their diplomats react when they deal with the de facto Secretary
of State Steve Witkoff or the de jure Secretary of State Marco Rubio? I'm not saying this
to ridicule Rubio, but it's just the way Trump has chosen to set up the government. One cuts
ribbons and hires and fires and gives
speeches. The other flies around the world and negotiates with foreign diplomats.
Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, for a reaction, there's an opposite equal reaction. And I
think what the world leaders see and what they are concluding is that it's almost like you see something kind of a
bobbly head and you go, whoa, that's kind of crazy. It's attracting my attention. But then you
realize, wait a minute, where's the steady hands? Where are the serious minded leaders in the world?
Where are the people that will that say what they mean and mean what they say and are continually on
social media, you know, blurting out insane things like unconditional
surrender that's absolutely insane. Why would we demand that for so...
Just insane. So I think the other leaders of the world, and that's many, you know, hundreds
of them are looking to where real leadership can be found. And obviously I'm talking about the BRICS countries, okay,
because that's really the counterbalance to U.S. hegemony.
So if you look at the leaders of the BRICS countries,
they know each other well, and I don't think any
of them behave in this way.
They treat each other with respect.
I mean, for Trump to make a joke, almost a juvenile joke,
and kind of chuckle that the people he was dealing with, in person in some cases, and certainly that
Witkoff was dealing with in person over multiple meetings, are all dead and he says, oh well they didn't die of COVID. They didn't die of the flu. I mean, what an insane way of treating that.
Is that inhuman?
And really, he's proving to be.
So yeah, there's a turning away from the United States.
And it's already had started long, long before this.
Our money is turning into crap.
Our debt is high.
We warmonger.
We lie.
And we've had really weak leaders
for many, many, many years.
You run by a, I guess our country is run by a, you know, the deep state, whatever that
is, but the other countries, they're wary of that.
And they have been for a long time.
And so this just adds to that trend.
And it's, what it brings to mind to me is Israel is claiming or a lot of I know Scott Ritter said this I heard him say this early on that this was a regime change
Operation not really about the nukes, but a regime change thing
But if you're gonna do a regime change, of course our track record Israel's track record is terrible with this
But if you're gonna do that
You need to make sure that your attack on the other country doesn't unify the population.
Because we know that when a country is attacked, their population may be squabbling and quibbling with each other, but they unify.
Correct.
That's just normal. Do these people in the Trump administration actually think that by going along with these attacks, funding them since everything that's in Yahoo House came from us?
Yes.
That the Iranian people would overthrow their government? Of course not. They're going to rally around their government.
By the way, the government was just properly elected.
The president is a moderate who would be only too happy to sit down with Steve Witkoff
or Marco Rubio. Two things I want to point out. One is we're conducting a chat room poll. So all
the people that write in during this segment with you on Colonel Kwiatkowski and the question is, is should Tulsi Gabbard resign? Yes, no, or undecided. But I do want to play Dana Basch,
the political commentator and anchor on CNN. Apparently had a phone call with Trump over
the weekend and she wasn't allowed to tape it, but obviously she has a memory and she
made notes. She calledled into her CNN colleagues
right after she got off the phone with him. And here's what she said, cut number 12.
And then he went on to say this, Iran should have listened to me when I said, you know,
I gave them, I don't know if you know this, but I gave them a 60 day warning. And today
is day 61. And then he said said they meaning Iran should now come to the
table to make a deal before it's too late and then he said something really
noteworthy he said the people I was dealing with are dead the hardliners to
which I just wanted to underscore so what you're saying is Israel has now killed the people who you were dealing
with. And he said very sarcastically, they didn't die of the flu.
They didn't die of COVID.
I think that's what you may have been referring to earlier when you said flu or
COVID. When I played this clip for the great Alistair Crook and asked him how he would respond.
He said, it's not worthy of a response.
It's really a sickening statement
for a president of the United States
to gloat that the human beings
with whom the president's negotiators
had been negotiating were murdered
by the president's friends. That's literally what happened here.
Yeah.
And he's acting like after the fact that he was fully aware and on board with this, the
61-day thing is kind of nutty.
Because if that was the case, don't you think it would have come up sooner?
You're like, hey, we're approaching the deadline. I don't know if he's making stuff up to kind of validate his own position because he may
not be in as much control as he would like to be.
No American president really is in control of a lot of things.
We've seen this repeatedly where parts of the deep state, intelligence communities,
other countries, there's a lot of things that happen and the president wants to be seen as all wise and all knowing when in fact they're not.
So some of his bluster may be coming from that perspective, you know, so he goes back and says, well, 61 days, you know, because that is ridiculous. To say that after the fact means that you're just a useless liar.
I mean, if you thought this date was coming up,
and don't you think that you had rolled that into your negotiations?
But also-
This is a guy who said many times, including in his inaugural address,
he is a president of peace.
He is against forever wars, he is
against using the military in the Middle East to change governments and change the way people
live. I guess he should have said, except when Bibi Netanyahu wants it. Except when
Bibi Netanyahu wants it.
Yeah. You know, I thought earlier that Bibi politically is in a downward spiral. I think he's highly vulnerable.
He keeps, he has like a cat with nine lives politically, but you know, the man is old,
he's not well, you know, unpopular for the most part with his, with the Knesset and with the people.
And of course the whole world hates him. So you have that. But thought maybe that that Trump was gonna create
some space when it looked like for a moment he did create space between him
and Netanyahu and I thought it was I I think I said this here I thought it was
you know Trump doesn't like losers he doesn't like to associate with losers but
um I have to rethink that because apparently all that loser so maybe he
likes this maybe he thinks this it will be part of his legacy of some sort.
Well, it now appears as though the so-called snub of Netanyahu, when Trump visited the Middle East and ostentatiously did not visit Israel, was all a scam.
Yeah. The leak from the White House that Trump is sick and tired of Netanyahu and feels he's being used or played by him was all a scam.
This was all intended to lull the Iranian leadership and the Iranian negotiators into a false sense of security,
which is why I asked you at the outset, and you've answered in great detail, can the US be trusted? And the answer is no. Is this dangerous for American diplomats knowing
that they can't even engage in diplomacy because no one will believe what they say?
Yeah, I mean, he's single-handedly really destroyed the State Department's credibility
and the Pentagon's credibility. And he really should be careful about boasting about American military prowess and capabilities.
We just pulled out of the Red Sea for a reason, okay?
And that wasn't because we beat the hooties, okay?
So Trump is living in a fantasy world and he's also lying.
So these two things together really, you know, I mean, he was
impeached twice for stupid, the most stupid reasons I can imagine. I think it was very,
you know, an incredible impeachment that he had in his first term. But what he's doing
now rises to the level that the Congress should be concerned and yet not a whisper, not a
whisper of impeachment.
I guess that will change if the house goes to the Democrats. Chris has a result on the poll, although people can still vote on it. Simple question, should Tulsi Gabbard resign? Yes, 73%.
No, 17%. Undecided, who could be undecided? Well, all right, there were undecideds
at the time of the American Revolution.
Undecided 9%.
It's a terrible state of affairs, Karen.
Terrible state of affairs.
I think the polls are gonna start to manifest
a loss of faith and credibility in him,
manifest a loss of faith and credibility in him, even though what he's been doing on immigration seems to be popular. This morning they arrested the controller of New York City because he
was walking alongside a person that was supposed to be arrested. As they left in a courtroom,
they arrested this person with them. Even though they don't have the authority to arrest Americans, and they didn't have an arrest warrant
for the alien. And they again wear masks. Why does the Department of Homeland Security police
mask their faces? Cops in America have never worn masks, not in the modern era.
in America have never worn masks, not in the modern era. Yeah, well maybe the era that's coming they will.
Yeah.
It's very dark.
It's very dark and very concerning and I think the best thing Americans can do right now
is to be extremely alert in every way really.
Alert to political lies, alert to what's happening around.
If your gut is telling you homeland security,
you really shouldn't have masks when they do their business.
I think that's telling you that believe your gut.
This is our country.
They're not taking it away from us.
And Trump, even if he pulled a big trick on everybody,
America first, I care about the working class,
the working people, we've been lied to before.
We'll get over that pretty quickly, but we need to assert ourselves a little bit more aggressively.
Thank you, Karen Kwartkowski. Much appreciated. All the best. We'll look forward to seeing you next week.
Absolutely. Thanks, Judge.
Of course. Coming up tomorrow, Wednesday at eight in the morning, Professor Gilbert Doctorow at 11 in the morning,
we'll call him wake him up.
Max Blumenthal at three in the afternoon,
Phil Giraldi at four in the afternoon,
I don't know where on the planet he is,
but he'll be here at four in the afternoon,
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