Judging Freedom - LtCOL. Karen Kwiatkowski: Do These Elections Matter?

Episode Date: October 22, 2024

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Thank you. Hi, everyone. Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom. Today is Tuesday, October 22nd, 2024. Karen Kwiatkowski is here with us today with a little bit on the leaked documents and a lot on who really governs the people of the United States. Who governs the government? But first this. A divisive presidential election is upon us and the winner is gold. Let me tell you what I mean. Since 2016, our national debt has grown a staggering 70% and gold has increased by 60%. Do you own gold? I do. I bought my gold in February 2023 and it has risen 33%. You've heard me talk about Lear Capital, the company I trust.

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Remember, hope is not a strategy, but gold is. Colonel Kwiatkowski, a pleasure, my dear friend. Welcome back to the show. I want to spend some time on your fascinating piece at Judge Knapp and elsewhere, the ultimate con of a government rules-based system. But we can lead into that with the concept of the deep state spying on itself, of spies spying on spies, and occasionally that is revealed. And it was last Friday when two documents were posted on Telegram showing that the United States spies on its supposed ally, Israel, and showing that the United States does not share, as it is committed in writing to doing so, its intelligence with the other four members of the Five Eyes, Australia, New Zealand, Great

Britain, and Canada. Bottom line, what is your take on the release of this document? A hack from the outside, something from the inside? No, from the inside. And I think that's what even the government is saying. A hack, I think, would have produced more documents, kind of a collection of sorts. This was released, it appears, by someone who's very concerned about Israel and what they're doing in the Middle East and the wars they're starting. And of course,

they're sucking the United States into them, willingly. Our government is very willing to contribute to this. But apparently Americans are a little smarter than the government. And somebody had access to this. I think we'll find out pretty soon because unfortunately, the way I say unfortunately, I mean, maybe this is a good thing for security, but they will be able to track pretty easily. Well, I should say pretty easily. They will be able to track who printed documents, if these documents were printed, copied, accessed. You know, we don't have, you know, dozens of data centers that require nuclear reactors to fuel them because we don't have data. We have data and they have data on every little thing and they can track it back. So it'll be interesting to see who they hang for this. Now,

there's a possibility that it was someone they don't want to punish, that someone released this, that they do not, that the deep state or somebody in government doesn't want to punish. You know, this could have been a purposeful leak, in which case they'll be unable to find the culprit and punish him. Because Israel is out of control. I think even some in our own government recognize this. When someone at the Supreme Court leaked a draft of Justice Alito's opinion a year and a half ago, overruling Roe versus Wade, the universe of people who had access to that opinion was 30, 3-0. And they were unable to find the leaker. That's right. They also couldn't find the cocaine source in the White House.

Correct. They couldn't find that. That universe is even smaller. According to Ray McGovern, the universe here is about 300. Larry Johnson says it may be a few more, but not many more. It would be very interesting to see if it is one of their people. Larry Johnson thinks it was an inside job with the approval of higher-ups who want to postpone, embarrass, delay, whatever verb you want to use, Israel's attack on Iran. Alistair Crook thinks it's a person like Edward Snowden who wants to prevent World War III. What do you think?

Yeah. Well, my personality is inclining me to hope and think and lean towards an Ed Snowden type of leaker because that gives us hope. That gives the regular people out here that want peace, it gives us a little bit of hope that there's someone there. But the way our government has operated, and you know, Blinken and Biden and all these have been very ineffective in dealing with Netanyahu. He does whatever he wants. He lies to them, to their face, repeatedly. And they don't, they take it, you know, they take it. But this seems like a move possibly that they could have engineered, you know, kind of a backhanded, slimy move that you would expect from a Blinken or a Biden or Sullivan, for that matter. So it's probably not, you know, I want to believe it's an Ed Snowden type situation. It's someone who's totally covered his tracks and can really deliver more,

honestly. But it has a lot of markings. So I'm on the fence. I mean, it could be either one. Yeah. Are the Israelis embarrassed that American intelligence spies on them, or does everybody spy on everybody else and nobody's surprised about anything? Yeah. I'm sure the Israelis, of course, they spy on us constantly, and they know we spy on them as well. I think that the release of the fact that we spy on Israel and that we don't trust Israel, it's a good thing to be out there. Americans need to recognize this. This is a little bit of a true face of our relationship with Israel.

We do not trust Israel. Israel does not trust us. But as that information becomes well known, it's not just embarrassing. It makes a crack in the AIPAC agenda. You know, I mean, you know, the 40 or 50 standing ovations that Congress gives Netanyahu, well, guess what? There's a little crack there. That crack is we don't trust Israel. We shouldn't trust them, and they don't trust us either. Karen, who or what really governs the United States? Who or what really pulls the levers of power?

It's a mess. That may be your second PhD thesis. Yeah, I mean, you know, I think a lot. Well, I know one thing. That is a question that is asked among common people, among average people, people in Walmart. If you ask them who's running the country, they don't know. And many of them wonder.

And of course, people like us who watch the government, we don't really know. I think to figure that answer out, we need to go outside of the United States and look at someone who studies us objectively from the outside and perceives our government as adversarial. So ask the Chinese, ask the Russians, ask the Turks. You know, how how do they see our government functioning?

And I think many of them probably would see it not as a one man show, but and not necessarily deep state, but particular actors within the deep state that run the money. It's the bookies. It's the guys that are managing the bets. Those are the guys that are running our country. We don't really know who they are. Yeah, but no matter who the president is, the government spies on everybody. No matter who the president is, the Fed spend $860, $870 billion on defense. No matter who the government is, the president is, the government spends, fill in the blank, nobody knows this number on CIA and Intel, even though the Constitution says no money shall be appropriated from the Treasury except that which is recorded in a public journal. And no matter who the president is in the past 10 years, we borrow $2 trillion a year. I'm going to write a piece right before Election Day called Tweedledee and Tweedledum. I know they're vastly different human beings. I know their attitudes

about life and their personalities are radically different, but the government will look the same. Yeah. You know, Lysander Spooner wrote about the Constitution and his thing was it doesn't restrain anything. And I didn't he personally didn't consent to it. None of us living today were part of the founding fathers who agreed to this constitution. In fact, the way it was started was a little bit of a sly move on the part of the folks that got together in Philadelphia. You know, they shut the doors for three months. No media, no talking. And after they finished, they said, here's what we've given you. And so that document is just a piece of paper in many ways. And the government clearly, our government clearly today does not honor it in any way, shape or form. I mean, the Congress, where was the Congress?

We sent troops to Israel to defend Israel. We don't have a treaty. We don't have a defense treaty with Israel. And there was no discussion in Congress. The Pentagon decided. So maybe it's the Pentagon that runs. My piece that's coming out this Thursday, which I finished this afternoon and just got back from the editor, is on that very topic, war and the Constitution. Was there any authorization in

Congress for us to put troops on the ground in Ukraine? No. Was there any authorization in Congress for those troops to use satellites to locate Russian military and pull the trigger? It's actually pressing a button today. Answer, no. Joe Biden just announced one THAAD system with 100 American troops. Four days later, they said, oh, we're sending a second one. We only have seven. So there are five here for the U.S. to use.

Each has 100 troops there. Did the Congress authorize any of those troops to go? No and no. Is anybody complaining about it besides us? No. No, I mean, you know, the Congress, we could have them go on a vacation for three or four months. I don't think anybody would notice. They do nothing. They they are interested in very little except spending money, but they don't even know how to do that very well.

You know, they're constantly extending the budget. They they're they're really useless. And honestly, most people sense this, even if they don't analyze it or think about it or talk about it that much. I think most people in this country sense what's happening. They sense that there's a great disconnection between Washington and their lives. They sense that our government is costly. For anybody who served in these wars that we've had in my lifetime, you know, the veterans come back, they deal with the VA, they come back, they're messed up in the head, they're injured.

And it turns out, oh, we didn't care about that war after all. Well, why did you send us to fight it? And so they're disturbed by this and all of the people that love them and all their family members and all their friends are also disturbed by this. And all of the people that love them and all their family members and all their friends are also disturbed by this. So the disconnection is real. It's real. And it's going to have Congressman Thomas Massey, has, of course, complained on the floor of the House of Representatives, not about the Israeli troops, because the House is in recess, he will when he comes back, but certainly about the Ukrainian troops. Thomas Massey is one of

the few that understands that the Constitution should mean what it says and that it has been an abysmal failure. Do elections matter? This is the heart, I think, of your piece that we posted today. Do elections matter or is there an amorphous group in the government, whether it's in the Federal Reserve, whether it's in the Defense Department, whether it's in the FBI, whether it's in the intelligence community, sort of an amorphous group, the attitude of which is the same no matter who's in the White House. Yeah, well, there's definitely very little attitude change as we go from presidency to presidency. You know, the issue of the voting, I mean, most Americans already recognize that if they live in a very red or very blue state, if they live in one of the states

that's not one of the seven swing states, as we call them, that their vote is honestly irrelevant anyway. I mean, for the most part, it's not really making a difference. We're all watching the swing states. And again, this is part of the electoral college, which was to guarantee the representation of small populated states and make sure they had a voice. But what's happened is we're just, it is irrelevant. Now, what's not irrelevant, unfortunately, and you pointed out the difference in the personalities of the two candidates here and the history that we have, both the history that brought Kamala Harris to be big problems because, you know, this is this is all that Americans can hang their hat on.

Their Congress does nothing. They vote for their congressmen and their senators. And these guys do nothing except for Thomas Massey, who is, you know, I worship him. But, you know, except for Thomas Massey, the Congress is useless to most people. They they kind of invest themselves in these presidential elections where they invest themselves in the candidate. And it becomes an emotional thing more than a real thing. He's going to govern because we know very little will change, unfortunately, until it breaks. When it breaks, a lot of things are going to change very rapidly. And it's very close, I think, to breaking. I think that break will come when the federal government can't pay its bills,

including salaries. Nobody will want to work for it. And like the Soviet Union, it will collapse. But before we get there, lest you think that we're only spending our money on Israel, Secretary of Defense Austin was in Kiev yesterday and he made the following announcement, cut number 11. So I'm pleased to announce today the commitment of a $400 million presidential drawdown package to provide your forces with additional munitions, armored vehicles, and any tank weapons. While the focus on Ukraine's immediate needs goes on, we're also committed to sustaining your support, as pledged in the bilateral security agreement that you and President Biden signed in July. So there you have it. Congress gave President Biden in the three and three quarter years of his presidency $265 billion with a B dollars to spend in Ukraine, however he wants. It's on its last leg.

They can't let it collapse before November 5th. And they send the Secretary of State there yesterday to announce another 400 million. Yeah, it's amazing. It's amazing, especially when you think of what's going on in North Carolina and Tennessee. It's amazing that they would do that. But again, it sends a message just like the leaks send the message that not everything is like you think. Israel spies on us, we spy on them, we don't trust each other. The federal government says it helps people in America, but in fact,

it doesn't. And this proves it to more and more people. I think people are waking up maybe slowly, but often more rapidly as they see the behavior and the waste of our governments. And again, Trump, I don't know how Trump will be better in this. I hope that he will be. But, you know, it's, I don't know, we're learning from our government. And the lessons that we're learning are going to lead us to, I hope, secession and breakdown of the empire in legitimate, peaceful organizations that are productive states, groups of states. I don't care, but D.C. has to go.

In your piece, you had a fascinating rhetorical question. If you asked veterans of World War II what they were fighting for after the war was over, they could answer. If you asked veterans of Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq, what were you fighting for? What did your best buddy die for?

Could they answer that? No, they don't. They couldn't honestly answer it. And they know that that's the problem. I mean, if they were if there was some story they believed firmly and they could hold to that, that would not break their souls apart. But they can't. They know that they were used, that they were sent on a fool's mission by Washington, D.C., which has only gotten worse in their lifetimes and certainly in our lifetimes. It continues to degrade itself. And so it's not worth fighting for. And I think we're seeing this. You know, it's very difficult to find qualified, good, smart people to join the military these days. They're publicly complaining about it, talking about a draft. You know, it's very difficult to find qualified, good, smart people to join the military these days. They're publicly complaining about it, talking about a draft.

You know, so the message is getting out. We know what's happening. We may not be able to put our finger on who's running the country, but we're not happy with how it's being run. I think that's something that people, probably 80%, 90% of the population will agree with. They're not happy. Chris just sent me some breaking news. This is from Sky Arabia, claiming that Sky News Arabic quotes a Pentagon source claiming a senior member of the staff, an Iranian American, in the office of U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, is the leak of the two documents.

Another source tells my friends and former colleagues at Fox that this is false. They actually named this lady. A senior staffer in the office of Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin was identified as the leaker of the classified documents dealing with the Israeli preparations for an attack on Iran. Sky News Arabic reported on Tuesday today, quoting a senior Pentagon source. Fox News reported from their sources that that report is false. The staffer was at work and retains her security clearance. Who the heck knows what the true answer is. Do we know the CIA's budget, Karen? Well, it's a black budget, so we don't know. They have a small portion that is publicized.

You know, this is the CIA budget that they ask for a fair share of. But they have a black budget and they actually it's deposited throughout other agencies, some of it that they access through other agencies. So it is quite not just a black budget. It is structurally hidden from anyone that would be interested, such as a taxpayer, to find out how much it really is. And that in itself is horrendously wrong. Why don't we save democracy and have like a transparent government budget? There would be a job for the Democrats. But of course, they're not interested in that either. I'm not sure either party is really interested in it. But yeah, they have a huge budget and they are unwatched as well. I mean, what they do with their money is not accountable. They're accountable to no one, not even to presidents, which is a little bit scary because they ignore the presidents that they don't like.

They work around them. And this has been going on for years, even the Iran-Contra. And then they become a private army for the presidents thathower, and another president says, no way, JFK, what happens to the second president? Yeah. Scary things, bad things happen. Yes. Yes. Erin, thank you very much.

It's always a pleasure, my dear friend. Please read this piece, The Ultimate Con of a Government Rules-Based System by Dr. and Lieutenant Colonel Karen Kwiatkowski. It's a great piece, Karen. Thank you very much for it. Thank you very much, Judge. Thanks for your time. Always a pleasure, my dear friend. at 11 o'clock in the morning, Max Blumenthal. At three in the afternoon, Phil Giraldi. At four in the afternoon, Aaron Matei. And tomorrow, I will be a guest on someone else's program. It's taped. I don't know if it's live, but he's certainly going to air it soon. And a lot of

you know and love him, and I know and love him, George Galloway. So I'll be doing that tomorrow afternoon right before Phil Giraldi is here. Thank you for watching. Justin Apolitano for Judging Freedom. Thanks for watching!