Judging Freedom - LtCOL. Karen Kwiatkowski : Fusing the Pentagon and the IDF

Episode Date: June 2, 2026

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Get their reports, get the facts, get some gold and silver. Tell them the judge sent you and get up to $20,000 in bonus gold or silver. Call 800, 511, 4620, or go to Learjudgenap.com. Colonel Farkowski, welcome here, my dear friend. Before we get to Iran and the fusing of the Pentagon with the Israeli government, about 10 or 15 minutes ago, a federal judge in Washington, D.C., signed an order barring the Secret Service from seizing flags that say 8647 on them. Now, the former director of the FBI has been indicted for three. threatening to kill the president, as absurd as this sounds, for taking a picture of seashells on a beach, which he did not compose.

He just saw it and took a picture of it that said 8647. So somewhere there is common sense, reason, and fidelity to the First Amendment remaining in the United States. Yeah, clearly. Clearly there's a little bit. It's greatly suppressed, but I guess it forces its way through. Yes, yes. A lot of craziness in the past two or three days, Karen. The president of Iran had to deny that he resigned.

Iran says it's not going to participate in negotiations anymore because the United States can't control Israel. President Trump cursed at very, very harsh language if the report is accurate. Prime Minister Netanyahu over the continuing slaughter in Lebanon. Netanyahu posted on X, basically go take a hike. And the new director of national intelligence is a home builder who once threatened to punch the secretary of the treasury in the nose. Oh, well, that's a positive. I'll take that part. But yeah, I mean, my goodness.

Well, that shows you what Trump thinks about intelligence. And we already knew. In fact, he's been very consistent because last summer, you know, he notoriously said, I don't care what she says, referring to Tulsi Gabbard's advice during the 12-day war. He said, I don't care what she says. So why, if you don't care what your intelligence is, you might as well put a house builder, a home builder, a corporate home builder. How does, how do the professional, how do the intelligence professionals react? As Matt Holt pointed out, how will this? guy know when they're lying to him?

Well, they won't know. He won't know. He won't know if they're lying or telling the truth. And that's the whole point. Trump does not use intelligence in his decision making. He listens to the folks around him who are Zionists when it comes to war. They're pro-war neocons, and Zionists. So this is who he listens to. And they don't use intelligence either, except to cherry pick it to justify whatever story they're telling him, like the war and Iran will be over in three days because the people will rise up. You know, that was one they've used for a long time, multiple, multiple wars, in fact,

and it's never come true. And, you know, so, yeah, he doesn't care. The guy's a placeholder, the actual intelligence workers, the people, the SES and generals who have considered themselves intelligence professionals, they'll probably keep trying to do their job, but they will do it in a way that's pretty hopeless. I think that, I mean, this is why Joe Kent left, right? I mean, and it's really, and it's really why Tulsi is going to. If you want to tell Tulsi and Kent had serious intelligence backgrounds. This guy is literally a house builder, not a, not a construction worker, a corporate house builder. He inherited a corporation that began building homes. His

grandfather started the corporation. I don't deny people the right to do that, and I don't mock his success. I just say he's unqualified to be the nation's leading spy. If the president didn't have the power to give out national security clearances like he gives out to Big Max, this guy would never get one. Yeah, yeah, that's true. But Trump doesn't use the intelligence that the entire intelligence community produces for him. He doesn't want to see it. He debates it. He doesn't think it's any good. He thought Tulsi shouldn't be listened to. He misled Joe Kent with what Joe Kent thought the priorities were MAGA. In fact, they were not MAGA. So, you know, it doesn't really matter who is sitting in that job. Trump's not listening to them. And the intelligence

community is going to produce what they produce very hopelessly because they kind of know this president and this administration are not going to need what you're producing. Now, what they can do, and I think what they will do, is prepare, focus their energy and their skill set on producing the documentation that the whole country is going to want to see in about a year and a half when this is over with and we start the recriminations because so much has been lost in terms of prestige, economy, political goodwill towards Trump,

and that's already been lost, actually. So they'll be documenting, and I think that's what they are. The intelligence community is documenting the reality, knowing the president's not going to use it. He is going to talk to a few people, put out some posts and see how he feels, and then go from there. It's a real shame, really, to think that the president, he obviously wanted the job, but he doesn't take some of the more serious aspects of that job very seriously at all. Chris, can you post the full screens from this morning? So this is what Axios says.

Three people in the room told the Axiore reporter, Trump said to Netanyahu, you're effing crazy. Trump fumes at Netanyahu in call on Lebanon. And then you'd be in prison if it weren't for me. I'm saving your ass. everybody hates you now everybody hates Israel because of this referring to lebanon to which netting yahoo replied not directly to trump but in his own posting i spoke this evening with president trump and told them that if hesbellah does not stop firing at our cities and citizens israel will

strike terrorist targets in beirut this position of ours remain remained unchanged concurrently the IDF will continue to operate as planned in southern Lebanon. Do you think this is all accurate or performative, Colonel Koukowski? Well, I think Trump is definitely an angry person. He's frustrated. He's bored with the war in Iran that he got us into. He would like to see an out that looks like a win, and he can't craft that. He can't craft that because he has nobody working for him

that is able to get him to where he needs to be, where he wants to be. which is taking over Cuba. He can't do that until he gets out of Iran. So Trump's not really that interested in at all. He just doesn't, you know, he doesn't care. Now, Netanyahu is extremely interested in a number of things. And one of them is, you know, expanding Israel and these so-called security buffers and, you know, expanding into Gaza, burning down the West Bank and displacing the remainder of Palestinians who live there. I mean, this is a big project. that Israel has. It's a very hateful project. So there is, you know, there is a reaction to it. Hezbollah is an example. And so, you know, he's not going to be, he's not going to, he's not going to be told what to do publicly by Trump because of political reasons. And also because of, you know, if you know Netanyahu and how he has come up, I mean, he's been speaking for decades how he runs the American presidents, regardless of who they are. He's, he's, he's, this is.

part of Netanyahu's identity. He runs Washington, D.C. He runs the White House. Whoever's in there, he takes care of that. He can get whatever he wants. He's been selling that theme for 25 years. It's part of his identity. It's part of why he is, I guess, has been reelected a few times. You know, that's popular in Israel. And so he's leveraging the strength that he already had. Now, all of this is words. And when Axios leaked, something as they did here. You know, that's basically an IDF. One of the reporters that leaked this is the typical guy, I can't remember his name, you know, he leaks stuff, he provides stuff from his inside sources in the White House for a purpose. And that's, a purpose is not necessarily to simply

inform Americans or inform the world. The purpose is to help play a game, help to push along this narrative or that narrative. So, you know, for all we know, the whole thing didn't even happen, but it gave Netanyahu an ability to kind of assert how he's the boss of Washington and he'll do whatever he wants. No, no denials from the White House. And he says he has two sources who were there and it was confirmed by a third source. Who knows? I know this guy doesn't like Trump and I know he has a lot of sources inside the government. I'm sure Trump would like to know who the sources are. Well, it also serves Trump to say, I really yelled at Netanyahu this time. I used a lot of curse words this time. I really came down hard on Netanyahu. See, see, I'm doing something. But all

of this is a play. Well, then Trump said the IDF has turned around. They didn't turn around. They're still invading Lebanon. No, no, they didn't turn around. And they weren't marching troops into Beirut. And Trump's languages, and it is just crazy. It's disconnected from reality. He doesn't even know what's happening on the ground. And he also said that he spoke to Hezbollah representatives. He didn't do that. That's totally made up. He said that he spoke to Hezbo.

No. President of the United States, states, speaking of the Westboro? It's pretty crazy. Yeah. Why was it important for the Zionists that Tom Massey, the super constitutionalist, libertarian Republican, and Al Green, the, Marjorie Taylor Green. That's who I'm going on.

Marjorie Taylor Green. That's what I'm going to get rid of him. They had to get rid of him as well. And Marjorie Taylor Green be kicked out of Congress. Yeah, well, these are the two clear voices of the true Maga. I mean, you know, Trump can say I made up the name of Maga or the acronym. But the spirit of Maga, these Marjorie Taylor Green and Tom Massey were very true to that spirit. They caught onto it early on.

And, of course, in both their cases, they're also very constitutional leaning congressman. So you cannot have that if you want to pass Section 224 or add Section 224 into the 2027. 224. 224, I'm holding my hands up to the camera, is the fusion between the IDF and, according to Ambassador Freeman, not the IDF and the Pentagon, the Israeli government and the Pentagon. Yeah, that's right. And I mean, there's so many aspects of this, but one of them is, you know, our government, you know, we're a republic, we have a military, whatever, we have a system.

Americans are quite familiar with our system. But we often assume that that's how Israel works, and it's not how Israel works at all. Israel is a very, there is a state that's been an active war from the beginning. They don't have borders. They don't have fixed borders in their territory. That's why it can expand if they can hold the land. They don't want borders. They want to be different because the things they're doing are very different

than what a normal state would do. Their government is, of course, parliamentarian, but everything in their country, it's actually very national socialist in a way, and I don't mean that to bring up that it's fascist. But it is national socialist in the sense that industries, major industries, are heavily controlled and guided and funded by the government. And we're moving in that direction also, you know, in our country. Trump is, you know, he likes to buy into major sectors. Now, I don't know if he's doing that to make money later or, you know, wash the money.

I don't know what he's doing it for, but it is a national socialist tendency to take your industries and say, The government is so wise and powerful and well-meaning that it really should guide these industries in the direction that they should go. And so therefore, they will own them. They will control them. How dangerous is this fusion? I mean, suppose an American president takes the view that we do that Israel, and our relationship to Israel, harms the United States. and we should not be giving national security secrets and military supplies to Israel, and that Israel should live within its borders. If this thing becomes law, when an American president, a future president, not this one,

be free legally to disobey it. Well, once you put a foreign, well, first of it's never been done before, so we don't really know exactly. I think the main reason that Israel and the IPEC all, lobbies and whoever want this bill is that they know they cannot justify or survive the debate in Congress over their annual gift that we give them, you know, the $3.8 billion and more. They, and prior to this and prior to the last 60 minutes where Netanyahu said, I really don't want your money, which was not really true. Prior to that, they were working on a 20-year

commitment of annual $3.8 billion inflation-adjusted dollars to Israel, just on the the military side. And that's that's far, that doesn't include all the wars we might want to fight with them, which is above and beyond that. So, and why did he want, you know, a 20-year extension? Because he knows they can't bear the scrutiny that the up-and-coming Congresses of the future will give that money. So part of what two to four does is it, it allows, it, it inserts the IDF, the Israeli government into our financing system for the military. So they will be able to not only get more and faster and undigrated technology directly from the United States. They will also get the money.

They will be able to hide the money that's being given to them because it'll be under this umbrella of the Innovation Center or whatever. They've got a name for it in the documentation, in the amendment. It's not an amendment. It's a section of the NDAA. And it's called something like the U.S. Israel, cooperation, innovation or something. I don't know.

So under that auspice, the money can flow. and it will be on we don't audit anything in the penny how about how about intel i mean suppose we're fighting suppose we're fighting the chinese over uh taiwan i don't think that's going to happen but suppose we are can the israeli sell our intel to china they've sold our intel to russia they've sold it to everybody they've sold it to everybody in fact it's a little side business that the israeli government quite encourages i think when the time is there i mean why why does the masad spy on americans and american politicians why do they blackmail americans American politicians and others. They do this to gain leverage and they want the intelligence.

And I'll repeat what I have, what John Kariaku has said. He said, you know, already the Israelis have 99% of our intelligence already, right now, without Section 224. But Kyriaku then said, but they are not happy. They want the other 1%. And so that's how I see, that's how I see this section operating. It gives them the final bit of access inside the system. And of course, think about the system. It's not the system of 30 years ago. This is a computerized system and AI system. You know, we've got all of our databases and intelligence that trend has been increasingly use AI to not just streamline, but make sure everything's interactive together. And where is Palantir now? Palantir, yeah, sure. They're targeting. They're doing autonomous

drones to kill people. They're doing war software and targeting software for military. But they're also in the Social Security system. They are also in DHS. They are also helping, quote unquote, helping all kinds of federal and state agencies, you know, integrate their material, make it better, stronger, faster, update the databases and all that, make them AI compatible. And so we're already getting fused. Okay. The fusion is happening. And Israel wants to get in on that. Israel needs to know everything. Will they still sell our secrets? Absolutely.

I mean, why would they stop? What would stop them from doing that? The other thing is, too, that I really think this is not going to be included this year, but I think it may come up one last time. But this bill, this bill, this fusion type bill, it, it, God, I lost my train of thought. There's so many things that it does. You were saying you don't think it's going to happen this year.

Right now it's not in the legislation. They'd have to put it back in because it caused a firestorm. This is the National Defense Authorization Act. It's a thousand pages long. Nobody reads it. The sections we're talking about is about 10 or 15 lines. The Republican leadership tried to sneak it in, and they got caught with their hands in the cookie jar.

What I was going to say is we don't have a mutual defense treaty with Israel. We never have had one. You have no treaty with Israel. So to do something this drastic or this spectacular, and yet we would never consider it with the Great Britain, we would never consider it with another NATO country, we would never consider it with Canada. Any potential ally, South Korea,

we would never consider it with South Korea, even though South Korea is one of our best allies. Or Japan, we would never consider something like this for Japan. So why would we consider it for Israel? It makes no sense. So again, I think the money, hiding the money from the American people is probably the big part of this, but also influencing our policy even more. And the other thing that's concerning that I haven't written on, other people have, and I'm going to write on it as well. But, you know, the psychology of the IDF and the psychology of the Israeli government is very different than are the U.S. military's approach to war, the idea.

You know, Americans, we're actually concerned. American soldiers don't want to commit war crimes, right? They don't want to do that. They are cautious about that. They are taught about the Geneva Convention and many, many other rules and agreements and guidelines in the conduct of war, just war or even wars of choice. There are rules. And Israelis and the IDF itself and all the way down to the lowest soldier, they are not bound

by that, okay? They don't even think about it. They are protected by their government from accountability for the commission of war crimes. So if we were to, I mean, that would be like, why would we do that? Why would we bring in people that commit war crimes and actually cheer them and actually celebrate those soldiers that commit the war crimes? You know, when they have- Because their American Acolytes pay for two-thirds of the political campaigns of the members of Well, that's one reason. But I think, you know, I think that given the popularity, or I should say the

unpopularity of Israel right now, I don't think many, I don't think this would be a good recruitment thing for American military. I don't think parents and kids who are maybe thinking about a military career, if they knew that we were fused with the IDF, and I don't mean fused like you wouldn't see it every single place, but if we knew that we were bonded with them, that we were co-wariers with them, regardless of wherever around the world, American troops might be deployed, we would be co-fighting with Israelis. I don't think that's a selling point. I don't think that's something that that'll be one of those things

the recruiter never told me. Yeah, yeah. Let me apologize for confusing Al Green. I'm sure I'm going to hear about this with Marjorie Taylor Green. Al Green's a character. They also dumped him, and he's the opposite of Thomas Massey. He's probably the most left-wing. member of Congress, not a fan of Israel, but too much for Republican leadership to bear.

Larry Johnson, our longtime friend and a colleague and yours as well, who will be back with us tomorrow afternoon at 2, says that Iran has a nuclear weapon. He and Pepe Escobar have been advised of this by an intelligence official in Pakistan. Does this sound rational to you? Yeah, it does. I mean, the North Korean model has worked extremely well to keep people from messing with North Korea. Certainly the technology capability, you know, the knowledge base in Iran is certainly capable, has been capable for decades of producing a weapon, but they didn't. They didn't do it because there was a fatwa against it, and they didn't think that that was necessary. But I think February 28th and the assassination of Khamenei the father, I think that really shifted a lot of things.

I think that they came to realize. And even their own friends and allies in Iran would tell them, hey, they're just going to keep pushing you around until it's all over with. This is how they treat countries that don't have a nuclear weapon. So, you know, in Pakistan before this had offered, he said, look, you know, if Iran wants a nuclear weapon, we'll give them one. And that was, I think, aimed at rhetorically, I don't know if it was if it's really, that's how it's happening. I don't know the details of how this might come about. But, you know, that was put out there to kind of put a marker down against Israel and also the United States.

But, you know, and it's funny, too, because he also, they're also talking about that Iran will pull out of the nonproliferation treaty, which means they're free to do whatever. They wouldn't be voluntarily bound by those restraints. And that- I wonder if Israel will pull out of the non-proliferation. Yeah, of course. I'm going to say, yeah, of course, because, you know, Israel refuses to participate in it at all. And now you have Iran and Israel on kind of equal footing there. well, along with North Korea, I guess, nonproliferation partners.

So, you know, I think it's the words that Trump says and the various language coming out of the West about what they're going to do and what they're not going to do. Only thing that matters is what they actually do, not what they talk about. So Trump is, you know, we've been doing pot shots in the Persian Gulf over the past couple of weeks. I don't know if they're probing pot shots or what they're doing. And Iran is doing small retaliations proportionate to those. Israel is literally turning southern Lebanon into Gaza. They are using the language of Gaza.

They are telling them, do you want it to look like Gaza? Because that's what we're bringing to you. Their own politicians are saying, make it look like Gaza. So that's both their words and their actions. So until that changes, I think Israel is going to have to be with very harshly. In our case, our military is not in good shape. Okay. Our military has been overextended. We have not replenished all the stuff we've lost. We haven't rebuilt a single portion of a single base in the Middle East that was damaged. And I think there was something like 18

total bases that were damaged 14 pretty seriously. We're not rebuilding those bases. Some of the countries are saying, we don't really want you back. They're already saying that. So we aren't in any kind of position. Our military fighters are probably, they're probably feeling a lot like Trump. They're probably using a lot of curse words to describe their chain of command, okay? Because, because, you know, they've been sitting out there waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, old army saying, you know, hurry up and wait. Well, they're doing that, but there's a, there's a readiness and an operational effectiveness cost to waiting and waiting and waiting. And if the people watching this war, the journalists and the other people eating popcorn and watching what happens,

if we're getting sick of Friday threats and Monday reversals, vice versa, Taco Tuesdays, if we're getting sick of it, how do you think our deployed servicemen and women are? Good point. Good point. They're obviously sick of it as well. Well, we'll see what Larry has to say. I'm sure he has a lot more on the nuclear weapon tomorrow afternoon. Karen, thank you very much. Pleasure, my dear friend. Great, great peace. Why did Green, Marjorie Taylor Green, and Massey, Thomas Massey, have to be removed?

Blue Rockwell.com, Judge Knapp.com. All the best to you, Colonel. Thank you. Thanks a lot, Judge. Bye-bye. And tomorrow Wednesday, at 8 in the morning from Tehran, Professor Muhammad Morandi, At 10 in the morning, Aaron Mate, at 11 in the morning, Pepe Escobar. At 2 in the afternoon, the aforementioned, our longtime friend, three times this week, Larry Johnson.

And at 3 in the afternoon, the great Phil Giraldi. Judge Napolitano for judging freedom.