Judging Freedom - LtCOL. Karen Kwiatkowski: Israel and Feral Pigs.

Episode Date: April 15, 2025

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Starting point is 00:02:51 of those days. Anyway, you're here. You have a piece. I saw the name of this and I thought, what the heck is she writing about? Israel and feral pigs. So let me get right to it. Do the Israelis release wild pigs and wild boar onto Palestinian lands in order to destroy their agricultural availability? Yeah to do that and also just as a terror to terror, to terrorize, because those pigs, and Americans know about feral pigs, good much of America, the Midwest and South,
Starting point is 00:03:33 they're impacted by feral pigs and they do a ton of damage. We're quite familiar with what they do, but they can get big and they can also, because if they lose their fear of humans, they'll mess with, you know, you're worried about your children. So it is a terror tool
Starting point is 00:03:49 as well as an environmental destruction tool. And yes, they've been releasing them for years and years. Now I did not know that they did this. I didn't know that the IDF did it and I didn't know that the settlers did it. I actually didn't think there were very many pigs in Israel or Palestine. You know, I don't associate pigs with that part of the world
Starting point is 00:04:11 because they're not consumed generally. So you wouldn't have them like we do in America. Some pigs get loose. But these pigs are purposely released. And I read an article just prior to writing that article. I was shocked. But it turns out they've been doing it for years and years, well over a decade, probably two decades.
Starting point is 00:04:28 This has been a practice. And it's unenvironmental. It's stupid. It's cruel. It's hypocritical. I mean, it's just a desperate type cruel thing to do. And they know it's done. Well, both religions, Judaism and Islam, shun pork. In fact, as I understand it, they more
Starting point is 00:04:50 than shun it, they forbid it for a variety of reasons, ancient and traditional. But I don't criticize it or even comment on it. It's a fact. What does the IDF do? Does the IDF protect the pigs? Well, they do two things. They protect the settlers when the settlers are releasing the pigs. At times the IDF itself as a military organization releases pigs, at least that's what the data says. And then the way they protect the pigs is, of course, I guess if they run back onto settlers' property, they can shoot them because obviously the IDF and the settlers are both heavily armed with a variety of weapons but the Palestinians of course are not allowed to have weapons they're not allowed to be armed so they can't defend themselves
Starting point is 00:05:36 against the pigs they can't do anything about the pigs I mean I presume they could trap them somehow but um anyway yes, the idea defends the pigs from Palestinians by disarming the Palestinians, which of course is a very, you know, the disarming of Palestinians and the fact that they're not allowed to bear arms. I mean, this obviously has been going on forever. I mean, these people aren't free in any sense of the word. Your piece about the feral pigs obviously uses it as a metaphor, and there's a metaphor for the Israelis are a European urbanite colonizing dominant over the agrarian Palestinians who have lived there for 3,000 years. Yeah, that's right. And you know, when we think of wild boar,
Starting point is 00:06:34 we don't think of feral pigs necessarily, I mean the word can apply to both, but when we think of wild boar and hunting wild boar, we can think back to the 1700s and 1800s, maybe early 1900s in Europe when it was before the modern age. And the kings and the noblemen would have great properties and great forests where they would use for hunting. And the serfs and the peasants or whoever was doing all the agricultural work were not allowed to, also not allowed to be armed and not allowed to hunt these pigs. It was kind of a high class sport, you know, this shooting of wild boar and other wild animals that only the high elites could do. And you see this kind of
Starting point is 00:07:26 And you see this kind of arrogance that we see in Israel, that they can have whatever they want, and it really, everyone else lives to serve them. All other, the people need to do the work that we require of them, but otherwise they need to stay out of our way. We will make the rules. And that is a European, that is really something that resonates as a European attitude, an attitude of arrogance, an attitude of class, class separation. And you know, the Jews in Europe for years and years and centuries and centuries,
Starting point is 00:07:57 you know, weren't necessarily connected with the hierarchy. They weren't necessarily connected with the ruling classes, in some ways they were, but in most ways they weren't. But there's always, and we see this in America too, this desire to be that what you have envied in terms of class. The nouveau riche, right? We talk about the nouveau Riche. Why? Because we don't really give them full credit. But I think I see with as many things that we see with the Zionist project is that they want to establish something that's really artificial in many ways. And they're establishing it on an agrarian land that was filled with agrarian people. And it's just one more way of viewing the brutality of Zionism, I think.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Our friend and colleague Max Blumenthal regularly, must say this several times a day, refers to Israel as an apartheid state. I gather you agree with that. And the evidence is you agree with that. The evidence is strong to demonstrate that. Yeah. Well, you can't make roads for people to walk on and build walls to enclose them and deprive them of food and count their calories and make sure that concrete does not come
Starting point is 00:09:20 into their country so they can build anything. I mean, that is an apartheid. In fact, in some ways, it's probably more egregious than some of the apartheids that we recognize from history. You know, it is 21st century apartheid, which is quite unacceptable. You know, maybe 200 years ago, we can say, oh, that's how it should be. Well, it's not how it should be. Well, it's not
Starting point is 00:09:45 how it should be. Where we are now, it is appallingly unacceptable. I really don't get why we're not seeing more pushback from the global leaders. Obviously, Trump and his crew are very pro-Zionist, but the rest of the world's leaders have more power than I think they're exercising here to constrain and to punish Israel for the excess in their response. You can say, well, they're defending themselves, they say that, but there's also a kind of a balance, a reciprocity of what you do based on what was done to you. Somebody throws a rock at you, you don't murder their whole family and burn their country to the ground.
Starting point is 00:10:32 You don't do that. We have a philosophy, European philosophy, I'm sure the Asian and Chinese philosophies all around the world have a sense of balance in how you will respond to wrongdoing. In that article, certainly if our neighbors were releasing feral hogs on their neighbor's property, people would take immediate action. Of course, we're all armed here in America, so we would shoot those hogs, we would capture those hogs, we would stop the problem. And if it continued, then we have ways to step up the response to doing for neighbors so that we can still live together as neighbors.
Starting point is 00:11:14 This is not being done in Israel. They don't see the Palestinians as people at all, really. And it's very evil, very evil. And I'm surprised that more leaders in the world don't see it because the people of the world, the common people of the world see it very clearly. Let me talk to you about peace negotiations. The person leading both of them,
Starting point is 00:11:42 I guess there's more than two right now, in behalf of the United States, even though he was referred to in the Oval Office and on national television by the Secretary of State as Ambassador Wittkopf, I don't know, maybe he was being snarky. Maybe Marco Rubio doesn't get along with him, wishes he wasn't there. Maybe it was mocking him, but he's not an officer of the United States. He's not been nominated by the president. He's not been investigated by the FBI.
Starting point is 00:12:10 He's not been confirmed by the Senate. We all know that. He may be a very bright guy. He's the guy that's leading these negotiations. He spent five hours with President Putin the other day and then said, we talked about a lot more than Ukraine. He's been going back and forth in the Middle East negotiating what he hopes will be some sort of a ceasefire
Starting point is 00:12:36 and return for an exchange of hostages between the Israelis and the Palestinians. Do the neocons even want peace or do they want both of these wars to go on? Do the neocons and Zionists around Trump want the Israelis to rid Gaza of all Palestinians and want the Ukrainians to keep fighting the Russians in the hope they can drain the Russian military and drive President Putin from office Yeah, and they want one more thing too. They want the conflict in the Middle East to expand to include You know an altercation of bombing a destruction of is of Iran So the Neil Neil conservatism as it has evolved since the 80s is really
Starting point is 00:13:28 Neoconservatism, as it has evolved since the 80s, is really, you know, it's pro-Israel, of course, in the Middle East, it's all policy hinges on what Israel expects or needs or wants. It is also completely, and it's been this way since the 80s, I mean, again, Ronald Reagan had to deal with this, they are extraordinarily anti-Russian. So these are the factors, these are the native ingredients of neoconservatism. So those haven't changed. So to answer your question, yeah, they want Ukraine to continue to be some sort of barrier,
Starting point is 00:14:02 an annoyance, a cost enhancer for Russia. And they want Gazans to be gone. They support the Zionist project which is to expand Israel to I guess from the river to the sea. Well, I don't know if I'm getting trouble for saying that, but that's what the Israelis want to do. I think the Zionists in America and certainly in Washington agree with that. They really wish the Palestinian problem would go away.
Starting point is 00:14:31 It is a problem to them. It's not, it's not an issue of, well, whose land is it? Can we do a two state? No, they don't want that. It is a problem they want to eliminate it. And they're, this is why another shipment of weapons and bombs have been sent to Israel. And we are facilitating them solving that problem. The neoconservatives support that.
Starting point is 00:14:50 And they also, of course, the thing that they really have their eye on is the same as what it's been for 30 years. They want Iran to be nuked, apparently, which again, not rational, not realist. It's neoconservatism 101. which again, not rational, not realist. It's neoconservatism 101. Mr. Witkoff is also much to the dismay of Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu negotiating directly with the Iranians.
Starting point is 00:15:21 We don't know if President Trump told Prime Minister Netanyahu before he was going to announce publicly that Witkoff would be meeting with the Iranians or if Netanyahu learned about it at the same time the rest of us did as it came out of Donald Trump's mouth. But Netanyahu seemed somewhat startled and his response was nonsensical. Over the weekend, the Secretary of Defense was asked about all of this. Take a listen to what he said. Tell me if you think the threat to use my department is an effective way to negotiate. Cut number nine, Chris. He's dead serious that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. He's said that for 20 years.
Starting point is 00:16:09 He's been consistent. That is clear. But he's also dead serious that if we can't figure this out at the negotiating table, then there are other options to include my department to ensure that Iran never has a nuclear bomb. We hope we never get there. We really do, Maria. But what we're doing with the Houthis and what we're doing in the region, we've shown a capability to go far, to go deep, and to go big. And again, we don't want to do that. But if we have to, we will to prevent the nuclear bomb in Iran's hands.
Starting point is 00:16:44 And Pepe Escobar was physically been there. They did not go big, deep, and they were not effective in Yemen. But the threat to use my department, into negotiating in a manner pleasing to the American government. I mean, why didn't she say to him, what would he have said if she did ask him, well, Pete, all right, well, Mr. Secretary, why is it that Israel can have a nuclear weapon and Iran cannot? How would he have answered that? I know. You know, somebody needs to ask that question of these folks, because when we look at the countries that have nuclear weapons,
Starting point is 00:17:37 Israel is always on that list. It doesn't matter that they haven't formally acknowledged them. It is well known. They actually want people, especially their neighbors, to know that they have these nuclear weapons and yet they won't tolerate, they won't, first off Israel won't join a non-proliferation treaty, they will not allow inspections, but they expect others to do that. And then when you look at Iran, our own national intelligence estimate, it wasn't the estimate, but the report that was given
Starting point is 00:18:05 just a couple weeks ago indicated that they're not enriching past what you need for energy, they're not making a bomb, even the political statement is consistent with their performance that they are not interested in having a bomb. Now I imagine as the Iranians have said as many any country would say they're not interested in being dictated to by the United States about what their defense policy should look like but they don't even have a bomb. So this obsession that the neocons have certainly the Netanyahu has to basically dictate to the world how they will behave when no one is allowed to dictate to Israel or America how we will behave.
Starting point is 00:18:50 It's not tolerable. But the clip we just saw of Pete Hegseth, he must know what the national intelligence estimate is. This is a consensus of his own Defense Intelligence Agency, my department, as well as the CIA and other American intelligence agencies. And if the US intelligence agencies have concluded this, that means that MI6 has concluded it. And if MI6 has concluded it along with the US, then Mossad has concluded it. And if Mossad has concluded it, you're still with me, they must have told Netanyahu and
Starting point is 00:19:31 his colleagues of this. So the argument that Iran is going to have a bomb, 20 years ago he told the UN they would have the bomb in two weeks, 10 years ago he told the UN they'd have the bomb in one week. Here we are 20 years later from the original declaration, no bomb. Is it all a farce? Yeah, well, I mean, that particular story is a farce and also, you know, increasingly headsets himself as Secretary of Defense is coming across as a tool, you know, really of Trump rather than a leader of the Pentagon. Now, he's obviously in charge of the Pentagon, but he is communicating, I guess, what Trump
Starting point is 00:20:14 wants to communicate. You know, Trump is all about his various messages. And you know, it may serve Trump to say, yeah, I've got this hot dog, young, not too bright secretary of defense, and he's ready to unleash his department on you guys. And I wish I could hold him back, you know? I mean, it could be he's just playing that role. I wouldn't put it past any of them, but certainly I would not assume that Hedgeseth has even read or listened to the intelligence status that was briefed to
Starting point is 00:20:46 Congress. I'm not 100% sure he is paying close attention to that. I think he owes his position, clearly, to Trump. And Trump needs somebody completely loyal to him at the Pentagon. Because the Pentagon is filled with snakes, filled with swamp creatures, you know, I mean, always has been, but certainly never, you know, it's very, very difficult to deal with that. And they're dangerous. The Pentagon is dangerous, combined with the CIA and intelligence. It is dangerous to a sitting president. It's dangerous to things that Trump wants to protect. So Hedgeseth is this guy. What he says, it's a part of Trump's strategy. I would be more interested in what Witkoff is saying. And we're not really hearing what Witkoff is saying.
Starting point is 00:21:39 You know, and you know, Kellogg is another example. You know, Kellogg's a military guy, kind of neococonish, you know kind of old thinking anti-russian He's out there saying things but nobody's paying any attention to him. And I think really he's really saying nonsense Yes, he came out with some map showing the division of Ukraine the way Berlin was divided in 1945 I mean does he really think that Vladimir Putin would even spend a millisecond considering that in Negotiations that it's just absurd. Yeah. Yeah, he's I don't know what his his Function is but because Trump hasn't completely shut him up
Starting point is 00:22:19 Then he obviously has a function which may be kind of a an outlier and And I think maybe Hedseth may fit into this category as well. Trump still appears for all of the insanity coming out of Washington and the White House. He still appears to want peace. He appears focused on trying to, in his own way, fix what's wrong with America, which is to say, put America first. He's working on that in a strange way, and it's probably not going to work, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:49 But I think his intentions are very close to what they always were. I don't think Trump has had an about face in any way, shape, or form from what he has always thought and wanted to do. So I have to look at some of these people as tools. And certainly, Head Seth, Kellogg, there's a number of them. They are serving Trump. In what way, it's not clear. The people we're not hearing from, those are the ones that we should pay closer attention to. Right. Colonel Karen, thank you very much. Always a pleasure, whether we're talking about feral pigs or life and death. Thank you. Thank you for these unique sort of brainiac conversations we're able to have, whether I have the date correct or not. But most enjoyable, thanks
Starting point is 00:23:37 for accommodating my schedule. We'll see you again next week. Sure enough, Judge. Thank you. Of course. Coming up at 3 30 this afternoon, Colonel Douglas McGregor at four o'clock, Professor Jeffrey Sachs, Judge Napolitano for Judging Freedom. and the University of Wisconsin-Dade. Thank you. Resolve to earn your degree in the new year in the Bay with WGU. WGU is an online accredited university that specializes in personalized learning. With courses available 24-7 and monthly start dates, you can earn your degree on your schedule.
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