Judging Freedom - LtCOL. Karen Kwiatkowski : Israel’s Political Ideology Is Driving Endless Death

Episode Date: January 27, 2026

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Hi, everyone, Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom. Today is Tuesday, January 27, 2006. My dear friend, Colonel Karen Koukowski, joins us now. Colonel Koukowski, a pleasure. But I never talked to you about that new intro. That is, of course, you know the voice, but that is from Congressman Ron Paul's farewell address on the floor of the House of Representatives. It's about 30 minutes long, but Chris found what I thought were the best parts of it. And he, at age 90 plus is beaming that we open up the show with his voice. It's very, very profound. Yes, it really is.

No better time than now to have a message like that in front of every one of your shows because I think it is so right. Ron Paul, of course, is always right, but the timing is also. Why are there no Palestinians on Trump's Board of Peace? Okay. I have to ask that one, the strange thing. Well, Palestinians don't matter. Palestinians don't matter to Trump.

I mean, clearly, if they did, he would not have been, you know, heavily funding and promoting and defending the genocide that Israel's conducting. And we're paying for it. We're fueling it. We're paying for it. We're providing top cover at the UN for it. We've done everything we can to help Israel kill Palestinians. Clearly, Trump wants to do that.

So if he wants to kill you, I know he's very. he's very crazy sometimes. He says one thing and he says something else. But if he wants to kill Palestinians, then that's why there's no Palestinians on the so-called Board of Peace. I think Palestinians are dead to Trump, you know, just like they are to the most Israelis. It's a, the Board of Peace itself, you know, of course, isn't really anything to do with anything. It's not a, it's not a board. It's not about peace. You know, it's an opportunistic kind of, you know, it's an opportunistic kind of thing to see who can make money from what's left of Gaza. And everybody that's on it contributed or had contributed in their behalf.

I don't know how Tony Blair came up with a billion dollars, but whatever. And I can't imagine Trump paid his own. But everybody theoretically contributed a billion dollars. That's $20 billion so far. What happens to that cash? Does it go to Jared Kushner to finish bulldozing Gaza and develop it into Trump World Gaza? Well, I mean, clearly it's going into some sort of the preparation for Jared Kushner's vision of this modern new Gaza, new Rafah, new everything. You know, they're erasing Gaza, erasing the Palestinians that live there, building something.

And that's going to take some money. So I imagine some of these billions, let's say there's 20 now, five at least are going to Israel to pay the cost. Because Israel's are doing the demolition. They've been doing the demolition now for this project over two years, two and a half years almost. So Israel will get some of it. But I'm curious. I mean, they haven't been very clear about how the money is being used. Is it a gift or is it an investment?

Because maybe it's a tax write off. There is benefit to whoever the donors are, whether that's in their taxes, in getting on the ground floor of a moneymaking opportunity. You know, the whole thing is just disgusting, really. The chair of it, of course, is Donald Trump, the person, not Donald Trump, the president. And the chair can veto whatever the board wants. So if one of the Arab countries proposes some simple resolution, The Palestinians are entitled to their own state, and Trump and Netanyahu and Blair vote against it, and it's 27 to three in favor.

Trump can veto it. Even after he leaves the president, say, I suppose this is some sort of a investment vehicle. It's certainly not a government. This thing hasn't, it's not a treaty. It hasn't been ratified by the Senate. It hasn't been approved by any of the legislative bodies of any of the governments involved. Yeah, maybe Trump's counting on being impeached and removed, and then he'll go right on into the big project, the Trump project in Gaza. But I think one of the problems, I mean, people are saying that the Board of Peace is somehow a pseudo-UN that the U.S. can entirely control, as if we don't already control the U.N.

And it looks like if he kept a veto, if Trump as the board, as the chairman of the board kept his veto, it sounds like that's the one thing he liked about the U-Land. And so he retained that. Yeah, this is very, it's very suss, as the young people would say. It's very, by the way, the charter, I was just reading this in the Washington Post, so I assume it's accurate. The charter of the board of peace also permits. of the chair to design the logo. So I wonder whose image will be in the logo. Not that we really care about this.

It's just another manifestation of the most extraordinary international hubris at the present time. The world has seen examples of this kind of hubris, but nothing rivals it. Nothing rivals it today. What happens to America? if Palestine is not eradicated? You ask that in your piece, who will feed Gaza, which is at loo-rockwell.com,

juddsnap.com, and your other venues. But what happens to America if Palestine is not eradicated? Well, we have, we've invested ourselves. Our government has invested itself in the destruction, well, in the Zionist project, which is the erasure of, Palestinians throughout Israel, but in particular Gaza. That's the genocide. That's the rationale for the genocide. They want all those people gone. We've paid for it. If we lose that, if that doesn't happen,

and it shouldn't happen. I mean, by the grace of God, Palestinians will prevail, okay, and Zionism will fail. That's the just answer to this. But if the Palestinians are erased, then the United States has not a single moral leg remaining to stand on as a beacon for the world. We already aren't in many ways. We have lost our sense of global righteousness if we ever had it. And I think we did. I think we did. I think countries looked up to other countries looked up to our country.

You know, we were attractive to immigrants for many, many decades. And the reason for that was we were a free country. We were a country that protected the rights of the innocent, protected a natural rights of all people. This is what our Constitution is designed to do and what the founders intended it to do. So we have been a great country. I don't know what Maga has to do with any of this, but he's actually making us worse than we've ever been before. And if Gazans do die, if they build a new city on the bones of dead women and children in mass graves below the dirt and the concrete, if this is what they want to do, that's America's fate also in terms of we did that,

okay? It's nothing to be proud of. It's a grotesque sin by, I don't care what religion you're from, or if you're not in any religion, it is a grotesque sin. It is an affront to life, is affront to justice. So, and we've been a part of that. Now, he's like, well, Americans don't control their government. Yeah, Americans don't control their government, but we still have this government.

We're stuck with it. Are you telling me we're going to be stuck with it forever? No, I mean, I think this would be the beginning of the end for not just the empire, but for this so-called republic that we don't really operate as a republic. And I think the end is coming. But we see it in other ways, too. The IDF, the same IDF that murders and shoots, you know, puts 336 bullets into Heinrichs, you know, because she's left alive in a car, a burning car.

So the IDF, the untrained, immoral IDF that conducts itself in that way and rapes prisoners, you know, and laughs about it and is defended by the population. The same IDF that does that is training many domestic police forces and certainly they are training ICE. And that is something that I think, you know, Americans don't see dead Palestinians. Many of them don't. But, you know, when we see federal cops or any type of cops wearing masks, And with heavy weapons, you're basically outfitted like SWAT teams, going in and knocking down doors and dragging people out in their underwear, you know, especially the wrong people, you know, people that are American citizens. And never saying sorry, never apologizing, never showing a warrant, never showing their face. And you risk being shot if you take a picture.

You do a video of these guys in action. You risk being killed. So that's the idea of training. That's the idea of way. And guess what? It's not just in Israel. It's home. And you say, oh, that's Minneapolis. They're a bunch of lefties in Minneapolis. Oh, who cares about them? Well, okay, fine. Whatever. Okay. Wait till it comes to Dallas or Cincinnati or some place not, not dominated by leftists. Where was the world when the Israelis were slaughtering tens of

thousands of Palestinians and turning Gaza into a cement graveyard. Yeah. Well, I asked that question. That's a legit, that's not even rhetorical. I don't know where they were, but I poke fun or I don't really poke fun. I actually, I think, insult a large number of people. And I got in trouble with some of my readers for insulting Christians in general because, you know, they said, oh, no, well, we are supposed to walk the life of, you know, walk the path of Jesus.

And we should do something. That's my point. You know, Christians should follow the example of Jesus. That's part of Christianity. And we have it. We haven't. And of course, I slam, as I always would, as would be very predictable, you know, Zionist Christians who I think are, you know, a cult of their own. But wait, wait, before I ask you what America's Zionist Christians want, watch this. Cut number 13, Chris. We made a change to designate the use of the term Zionist as a proxy for a protected attribute as hate speech. So if somebody were to use Zionist, of course you can use it in the sense of you're a proud Zionist.

But if you're using it in the context of degrading somebody, calling somebody a Zionist as a dirty name, then that gets designated as hate speech to be moderated against. Over the course of 2024, we tripled the amount of accounts that we were banning for hateful activity. We also have, I think, over two dozen Jewish organizations that are constantly feeding us intelligence and information when they spot violative trends. There is no finish line. There's no finish line to moderating hate speech, identifying hateful trends, trying to keep the platform safe.

There's no such thing as an end game. I wonder if TikTok is going to have to register with the Department of Justice as a foreign lobbying organization, since that's what it sounds like. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, I mean, of course, I mean, these TikTok is, you know, may suffer a loss of participation. It certainly becomes a less free, not that it was ever truly free, but it's a lot less free now. But the idea that a political, you know, hate speech is, you know, we can, what is hate speech, right? I mean, this is a very slippery slope to begin with. But when you put a political theology or a political philosophy, Zionism, you know, that is a politics thing.

It's not religious. It is an ethnic political thought process. I don't know. It's a group. So anyone can be a Zionist, right? I'm not Jewish. I can certainly be a Zionist. I could support Zionist political objectives and practices, and I could want to promote Zionism around the world.

So that would make me a Zionist. That's a political choice. It's not something you're born with. So if that political choice can become targeted hate speech, you know, use the word, were you proud of it? or were you embarrassed by it or did you dislike it, whatever? And they determine that. Then that means I'm a proud Democrat.

Okay. Well, what if I'm not a proud Democrat? What if I'm a Democrat that criticizes the Democratic Party for being a bunch of hypocrites? Or what if I'm a Republican and I criticize Trump for buying up corporations with the tax dollar in a very fascistic model? You know, what if I criticize? You know, I'm not a proud Republican. So, but I guess, you know, is there no end to this?

You know, he says there's no end to this. Well, maybe that maybe there isn't. You remember the conversation, I think you do, between Tucker Carlson and Senator Ted Cruz, and which Cruz, notwithstanding his Princeton and Harvard education revealed a vapid ignorance of the Old Testament. Nevertheless, did say he believes that God,

The father gave the land of present day Israel to the present day modern Zionists, which of course is preposterous. But he and Mike Huckabee and Mike Johnson, the number two in line to succeed to the presidency, should something happen to Trump or advance. They believe this stuff. Yeah. It is a political belief that people can adopt.

and it has nothing to do with hate speech. It's something we should be able to freely talk about. Now, again, the First Amendment, we have that in this country, and maybe other countries, you know, they don't have freedom of speech. So we have it. To see this kind of emphasis on controlling what we can say politically in this country. You know, the free speech, the First Amendment, the founders weren't trying to preserve our ability to talk to our neighbor

about what we're going to do next week or what we're having for dinner. It's not what they were trying to protect. They protected in the First Amendment, both our religious and belief practices and also our political speech, right? That's the most important kind of speech. And so here's this TikTok dude. I don't even know who this guy is, but on TikTok, I guess he's working in the algorithm. And he's saying, oh, yeah, we're going to fix this up.

So no one can talk about, no one can talk freely or honestly about a, particular political ideology. Where does that end? He says there's no end to it. Where does it end? You know, I mean, this is just nuts. Now, TikTok is not owned by the government. I don't believe. It's owned by Zion. Yes, it's owned by Zionists, and it's their company, and they can do what they want. Correct. And the customers are the users of TikTok can do what they want. And of course, Even though the freedom of speech is a human right, the Constitution only insulates it against the text from the government, direct or indirect. But just to lighten things up, apparently Senator Cory Booker was a long time friend of mine going back to my days on the bench in New Jersey and his days as the mayor of Newark, is the longtime senior senator from New Jersey.

Apparently, he was giving a speech of the National Cathedral. Why does the government own a cathedral? Another story for another time. But Benjamin Netanyahu or someone resembling him showed up. You can't. Please keep funding our genocide. Thank you, America. Thank you for sending us.

Thank you for saying Thank you, America. Thank you, Americans. Please keep funding our genocide. Thank you, America. It's a very big chance. It's a very good percentage. 40%

2026, let's go. That's good. Well, how creative, right? How creative. And the use of Well, Senator Booker gets a lot of money from APAC, and this was just a vivid, sardonic demonstration of that. Well, when our free speech and our free movement is limited and becomes limited, more and more limited, then, you know, it doesn't take 100% of the people, only takes a small percentage of the people to figure out how to get around that.

And that's a creative way to do it. And I think we're going to see a lot more people getting around it. I mean, I know TikTok has the pro-Palestinian, which is a global movement and a global presence on TikTok, but even the American side had a lot of pro-Palestinian messages, which is why Netanyahu targeted TikTok, right? It was the most important thing they had to capture, and they did capture it. But there's already alternatives coming up for people to leave TikTok, and people will. And of course, as the TikTok shops are finding fewer customers, you know, the whole thing. I mean, the marketplace of ideas will out-compete Zionism, and it'll out-compete Zionist thought and language control.

Always. Now, the question is how long will it take, but I do trust that we make choices ourselves. Everybody does. There's ways to fight this, and those ways need to be, they are creative, and we need to put some energy into participating in that fight. And I really like your Farah, your foreign agent designation for American TikTok, for Ellison's TikTok. Because clearly. Ellison also owns CBS News. So the same thing will probably be happening there.

And he's trying desperately to buy CNN from Warner Brothers, but they don't want to sell it to them. Yeah. Well, when you have employees of Ellison's TikTok, like that guy you showed who said, this is what we're doing. If people talk badly about Zionism, we are knocking them down. And we've got a whole cadre of people that are doing intelligence work for us and reporting people that are saying bad things about Zionism. Well, Zionism is not an American political party. Well, maybe there's some Zionist party I don't know about in this country.

But Republicans and Democrats, I guess it would be. But in any case, when your employees, your top managers, your algorithm, top scientist, says that openly. They should definitely, somebody needs to come after them for registering as a foreign agent because they are advocating for another government. Correct. Correct.

Chris tells me that mass numbers are already leaving TikTok for a new app called upscrolled. UPSR-U-P-U-P-R-O-L-E-D. We'll see what happens. You know, you can only push people around so much and for so long before they just forget about you or push back. And that's apparently what will happen with these people. I would imagine whatever Ellison spent to buy it is peanuts to him.

He's one of the world's richest men. But he and this character that we just showed who gloated about banning the word Zionist and less used in a proud Zionist way. we'll lose their investment. Yeah, absolutely. I think that's going to happen. Karen, Karen, thank you very much, very enjoyable. It always is whenever we chat. It's a great piece, which you can see at Judge Knapp.

Who Will Feed Gaza by Colonel Karen Kodkowski? Thank you, Karen, all the best. See you next week. Absolutely, Judge. Thanks. Thank you. Coming up tomorrow, Wednesday at 8 in the morning, Gilbert Dr. O, at 11 in the morning, oh, have I been waiting to talk to him.

Max Blumenthal at one in the afternoon, Professor Glenn Deeson, at three in the afternoon, the great Phil Giraldi. Thank you for watching, Judge Napolitano for judging Freedom.