Judging Freedom - LtCOL. Karen Kwiatkowski : The Cost of Genocide

Episode Date: August 25, 2026

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fighting for freedom than to live as a slave? What if freedom's greatest hour of danger is now? Hi, everyone. Judge Andrew Napolitano here for judging freedom. Today is Tuesday, August 25th, 2006. Colonel Karen Koukowski will be. be here on this interesting topic. How expensive is Israel's genocide? Very. But first, this. You know, a few years ago, if you told people you were stocking up on emergency food, they would have thought you were crazy. Not anymore. We've all seen supply chain chaos, devastating natural disasters, inflation, war, and civil unrest, and preparedness has now gone mainstream. That's why we're partnering with My Patriot Supply, America's original Patriot.

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With this $250 discount, it's a no-brainer. Go to preparewithadjudge.com to get your emergency food kit today. That's prepare with a judge.com. Colonel Kratkowski, welcome here and thank you very much for this piece that you wrote at judge nap.com and Lou Rockwell.com and elsewhere. who knew genocide could be so expensive. Are there elements in the Israeli government that readily acknowledge that it is engaged in a genocide? Well, I don't think they call it genocide. They call it national security, which requires the elimination of people that live in land that Israel wants, that once cleared out.

They want it for settlements. In the case of Gaza, they want it for the case of Gaza. They want it for the gas fields that lie offshore of Gaza, which belong to the Palestinians. If there are no Palestinians, then that gas will belong to Israel. So, yeah, I mean, they don't call it genocide because only, you know, in the story that we have in the narrative, the European narrative, the only genocide that really matters was the one done in World War II in Germany. So that's, we reserve the word genocide only when it is done to Jews. When Jews themselves are doing it, when Israeli Zionists are conducting it, it's not called genocide.

It's, you know, national security. It's, what do you mean? You don't think Israel has a right to exist, you know, this is how they interpret it. But they really have in Israel demonized Arabs, Muslims, Christians, basically non-Jews are demonized. and it's a generational thing. So it's not like at this point, you know, American well-wishers or psychiatrists could say, well, let's do a intervention with Israel. We'll talk to Israelis about this.

It's far past that. So they don't call it genocide, but they conduct it, and it meets all criteria of genocide. And it is genocide. How do they get around the phrase that a lot of them use all the time? I heard, I believe Israel Cats, the defense minister use it. And I believe I've heard I'm Ardimar Ben-Gavir, the head of their internal security, use it. They say it in Hebrew, and that's translated into English. It's a repellent phrase, but they use it all the time.

Mowing the grass. What do they mean when they say that, Karen? Yeah, actually, yeah, mowing the grass is kind of genocidal, but it's like not exactly their procedure their their habit in maintaining or controlling Palestinians throughout Israel and the occupied territories they you know they control them but of course the Palestinians push back fight back they make they make their lives out of very little and certainly in Gaza you know if you've seen the pictures of the before the 2023 2022 photographs or video of Gaza.

You know, it's a city. It's a functioning Middle Eastern looking city. You know, they have trade. They have all kinds of things, lots of people. They did this with Israel controlling food, calories, concrete, anything that could possibly be used as a weapon. All of this was controlled and not allowed in except by Israeli permission. None of that's changed.

That's been like that for 30 years. And so, but what would happen is the Gossans in particular, under this controlled economic system, this really kind of an Israeli blockade of anything that Israel didn't want to go there, still made progress. They still built homes and apartments and they still functioned and they still traded and still did these things. And so periodically, the people would say, we need more pushback, push back, or maybe the birth rate is such that they decide, well, it's time to go. slap them down. So the slapping down is the periodic wars against Gaza, the various operations that Israel has conducted. They call this mowing the lawn. So in my understanding, I don't consider mowing the lawn a genocide, but it's all part of the same attitude that Gazans and Palestinians

in general are not people. It is this reduction of the enemy to non-human form and holding it in contempt. So, you know, we have, the mowing lawn is particularly for Americans. We're known for our lawns in this country. You know, we have a lot of land and a lot of lawn and a lot of lawn to mow. So the idea that the people and their families and their culture, their businesses, their very lives is nothing more than a blade of grass to be mowed. I think that reveals the real contempt. So, you know, it's not really genocide. It's part of a genocidal. mindset, which has allowed what we've seen since October 7th for sure. Was the breakout from what one Israeli general called the open-air concentration camp of Gaza on October 7,

2023, a false flag event crafted by the Israelis to provoke a sense of out. outrage, fictitionally created outrage against Hamas, and to support the premiership of Benjamin Netanyahu. Yeah, I mean, this is, the mowing of the lawn has to be redone, as we know. Mowing the lawn is a perfect allegory, you know, because you can't just do it once, you have to do it continually. And so part of the argument for going in hard and really removing Gossens, whether that's killing them, crushing them, exporting them, driving them out, whatever it takes. This is an antidote. This is actually seen as a better solution than periodically mowing the lawn, because if we just turned the lawn into asphalt, then we don't have to mow it anymore, and we would save money. So, you know,

this whole concept is sold to Israelis as a wise financial move, right? We have to spend all this money managing these occupied territories and they're always causing trouble and we have to constantly be on guard and periodically violence breaks out and we have to spend all this money mowing the lawn or reacting to this or that problem what if we fix the problem by removing them entirely from the yard so we're going to pave over the yard so we don't have to mow it anymore and that'll save us money that'll be great and then is more secure you know the whole thing that they sell to their people um yeah so yeah i mean there's no doubt, you know, there's no doubt October 7th. You know, the very idea that, I mean, stand-down orders were issued, the morning of, okay? Warnings were provided, not just by the

Egyptians, but by people inside of Israeli intelligence and other neighbors, all warning. We think something's going to happen. You ought to step up your security, which they already have very fantastic security and eyes on the Gaza border. So the very fact that something like this would happen, and then the delay in the response, and then when the response did happen, of course, unfortunately, the IDF was ordered to, you know, blow up a bunch of Israelis in their cars,

which we've seen the images of those. So, but it worked because there was this, it's like the 9-11 thing, you know, when we say we've suddenly been attacked and all of a sudden we wake up and we go we don't really wake up we're in shock and we demand the government do something and that's kind of the well that's that's the by the book that's why you do false flags right i mean you do them to to achieve an objective so yeah i mean it's it's really sick and it's really obvious to the casual observer even how they are operating. And what's not obvious, though, and why I kind of wrote the piece is I saw an article

in Heretz that talked about the financial problem, and they blamed it in part on Gaza, the never-ending Gaza operation. They're running a budget deficit in Israel. We've given them, I don't know, $26 billion to kill Gazans in addition to the normal 3.8 and other money that we give them. But that's only about maybe a quarter or a fifth of what they have spent. And it's their security budget. It's kind of echoing what we see in America. You know, Trump says, I need one and a half trillion or maybe more, you know, for the military. The Knesset is being asked to fund military over everything else.

And you have to realize, too, that, you know, Israel is not like the United States. It is a social welfare state. Most of the settlers, almost entirely, are dependent on government. handouts in aid, they don't work, they're not required to work. Their work is to extend the Israeli state. It's not just that they're not drafted. They're also a welfare class up to itself. But beyond that, and we talk about this, people who just compare the two countries,

you know, the health care, you know, the cost of things that we expect the government do, free education, all these things, that's funded by the state in Israel. And of course, we offset it to some extent, but mainly our aid is military, except for Israeli bonds. Israel bonds kind of back up government spending. In any case, they're spending way too much money. And the big reason is three years of genocide. And this is just looking at the financial cost, because there's also obviously the perception cost, right? I mean, Israelis can't travel. Let's stick with the financial for a minute. What is Netanyahu's budget today? compared to what it was four years ago, annual budget?

I don't have the numbers in front of me, but it's in the article. Well, I think you said in your article that it's four times today what it was four years ago. Yes, and if you look at the average budget for Israel leading up to this for like 30 years prior to, and they had wars in between many wars, some significant wars, and average those together, today it's four times higher than that. And that average goes to 2025, which is a year or so when they got the numbers, a year or so into the Gaza genocide. So it's exploding. Their costs are exploding. And the people are bearing these costs. And also, just like any other country, right, the government taxes. I'm sure Israel has income taxes and business taxes. But those incomes and those

businesses are not doing as well, as you would think. certainly they're in a war environment. They have suffered some hits, which is unheard of for Israel to have taken, you know, to have targets bombed, which they did in the earlier war this year with Iran. And so anyway, it's just big problem, big problem. So one of the people are unhappy. They are unhappy. Unfortunately, they are still, it's very easy for them to blame Palestinians for everything

that happens. That is actually another thing being used by the government. not our fault. It's these Palestinians. We must get rid of them. So, yeah, it's really just, well, it's corrupt, criminal. What is the state of the IDF today is really a military? Well, I mean, you know, it's a drafted military. They do take the guys and gals in 18, 19, 20. I mean, they are young, so they don't really have a lot of job skills. So, they're trained to do whatever they do, which is really like glorified policemen in some ways, except they're allowed to shoot suspects to death or use them for target practice, certainly

if you're in Gaza or the West Bank. Then, of course, they've got active war with Hezbollah fighting back in South Lebanon, something that Netanyahu chose to do, wanted to do, required them to do. And so people are getting shot and destroyed. But again, young people poorly trained in a military that is working them harder than they're used to being worked, exposing them to the kinds of stresses that really can destroy your mind, really. And you're seeing, you know, the suicide rates are really skyrocketing for some of these folks. Obviously, people like Netanyahu's kid who lives in, where does he live? South Beach or someplace.

You know, he's not fighting for the IDF. but the average Israeli who has children is having to put their kid up to this environment that isn't really providing or doesn't seem to be providing additional security and it is breaking the Israeli bank. So nothing about this is a win. I just, anyway, like I said,

I think the people are, the people of Israel are going to have an election and they're going to have to see what they want, but what they're being offered are only variations of Netanyahu, You know, even Eisencott will continue to hold land beyond the so-called Israeli borders, you know, in Syria, in South Lebanon, in Gaza. So there's not really, Israelis are not being offered politically a real change. It's just a minor shift.

But I'm sure, you know, the country's going broke. Now, are there wealthy, are there sources of wealth that can subsidize a small country of nine million people? Sure, sure. There's the diaspora. They can tap into that. The United States, they just hooked into our military via the passage of the 2027 NDAA, right? We've got Section 219. So they will be able to access everything we have and get what they need. You know, and, you know, when they write the laws, when they say, Mr. Congressman, Mr. Senator, Mrs. Senator, I need you to make sure that Israel is able to buy this or that. They'll know exactly what they're asking for it. because they are inside the shopping center at this point. So, you know, I mean, they can be sustained, but it's, genocide is not cheap. It has many costs, and some of them are financial. It doesn't really pay off to kill, murder, maim,

and destroy vast swaths of cities and farmland. It doesn't really pay to do that. Do you think that whenever he leaves office, whether by an act of the people or an act of nature or whatever, However, Netanyahu will be exposed as having been aware of the October 7th events and done nothing to stop them, but rather chose to exploit them. Well, I think a lot of people in Israel already believe that. This is one of the issues.

This is one of the reasons he has to maintain war, because if they talk about his culpability in October 7th, you know, a lot of Americans don't believe that Netanyahu funded Hamas through Qatar for decades. They don't believe that. That's all that didn't happen, but the Israelis know that it happened. They understand well his culpability. They know he's a snake. So I think they already know. I think if he doesn't win re-election, he'll have to probably, I don't see why he would be in the country. I think he'll probably retire outside of Israel. I think he'll be in danger. because, you know, when you feel like your country's been ruined and your economy's been ruined and you don't have additional security, you actually have, you spend a lot of money on security, but you're not safe. That is an angry country.

That is a country that's looking for scapegoats. And if Netanyahu loses, he'll be a scapegoat for sure. So I think he will not retire quietly in one of his properties in Israel. I think he'll go somewhere else. That's just my impression. I think he's a criminal. I've said the same about Zelensky. If Zelensky makes it out alive from what's happening in Ukraine, I don't think he's going to stay there.

Yeah. Well, you know, the Israeli prime minister is not treated like the president went out of office. He doesn't get security, the likes of which he has now. He doesn't get any security. He's just an ex-politician at that point. I don't know where on the planet would be safe for him. I mean, 93, 94% of the countries on the planet would enforce an arrest warrant for him because of the IDF indictment, that IDF, ICC indictment. Yeah, I mean, yeah, now he's going to be kind of in trouble.

And also they have, Israel has historically, not frequently, but they have assassinated their prior leaders. assassinations are what they do abroad. I mean, they're known for it. They're very proud of it. The Mossad is well known for this. So if Netanyahu, for some reason, doesn't win the election, it's someone else, and maybe he can stay out of jail. But even if he goes to jail, he's probably not going to be safe. I think his length of service, the amount of dirt that he knows on everybody there,

I mean, it's a corrupt system. This is gangland, okay? So he carries in for me. he knows things about people and about the past 30 years of both American and Israeli policy that may make him a liability. If he becomes a liability, then it'll be he'll last very long. But again, that's the game they play. That is the game that is played in Israel for sure. I mean, it's a very dangerous game. Almost everything that you've just articulated is generally not publicly discussed,

in the United States and probably not even known amongst members of Congress who routinely vote to give hundreds of billions of dollars to Israel. Yeah, yeah. Well, they're also scared most of them. But the information is out there. You know, I mean, look, there's a lot of, I don't read Hebrew. There's tons of stuff published, and it's not translated very readily. It's not offered in an English form.

You know, you can read Heretz that's been translated. It's in English. It's for a Western audience. It's for an American audience. And they talk about these things quite freely. You know, the links in that article, several of them are English, language, Israeli news publications. So, you know, it's not hidden information. I think the problem with our Congress is that they glorify the state, most of them.

they think that it's something honorable. And so they think, well, of course, state, we wouldn't, we wouldn't do that, and they wouldn't do that. No, but they're going in with the wrong attitude. The state is a gang of thieves writ large. It would take a lot to prove to me that it's anything other than that. And it's been described as that from the time of St. Augustine and probably before. So, you know, our politicians, they kind of like the state, except for the few, Massey, you know, who's who will be exiting in early January. So, you know, he understands what he

got into and how many people listen to Massey. How many, I mean, Massey has given, well, Ron Paul before him, you know, people that understand what the state is, how it operates, how, what the nature of it really is, when they tell, they're very open with what, with the facts. But so many in Congress just tune it out. They tune it out because it's not part of their They are creatures of the state. They wouldn't even have jobs but for the state. I have to play a Trump clip for you. It really is irrelevant to what we've been talking about, but it's so instructive into his personality, and I'd love your thoughts. It's a bit off the wall. He's being asked about beef from Argentina, and he's on Air Force One. I don't know if you've seen this.

Watch this. Chris, number four. Question is, what do you have to say to U.S. farmers? You feel that the deal is benefiting Argentina more than it is them as they are. Argentina is fighting for its life, young lady. You don't know anything about it. They're fighting for their life. Nothing is benefiting Argentina. They're fighting for their life.

You understand what that means? They have no money. They have no anything. They're fighting so hard to survive. If I can help them survive in a free world, I happen to like the president of Argentina. I think he's trying to do the best he can. But don't make it sound like they're doing great.

They are dying. All right? They're dying. Kind of a dumb move to antagonize the beef industry in the United States and the tens of thousands it employs two months before election day. Look at this. Chinese customs rejected a 22-ton American, or excuse me, Argentina beef shipment because it uses chemicals that are prohibited in China, chemicals to cleanse the animals. Yeah. Yeah, and it's probably the same beef we're getting.

I mean, it's probably that frozen beef because you can freeze beef for a long time that we're going to be getting that Trump is bringing in. And, you know, Trump should be more honest. You know, we gave Argentina $20 billion, I think, just recently to kind of make sure they didn't bounce check. So anyway, yeah, he's alienated the very last bastion of MAGA support with this one, because the ranchers and the farmers, well, the farmers he already got with this, the price of fertilizer and diesel fuel. He's crushing pretty much anybody that plant seeds in the ground

and hopes to make a harvest in the fall. He's crushed them already. Now he's finally going after the ranchers, the grass feet, you know, the calf raisers and the stockyards. So, you know, and he's doing it in such a way that's really going to be bad because it's one thing if it was healthy, grass-fed beef from somewhere. But because of the story of the connection that's being made, rightly or wrongly between this contaminated beef that causes health problems, that even the Chinese

wouldn't feed their people and rejected it. If that's the beef that we're getting, if people, it doesn't matter if it is or not, is it, if people suspect that hamburger, a ground beef that come from, from in our system, whether it's from Argentina or whether it's homegrown, is possibly dangerous, then the high prices are, that's not an issue. Low prices won't be an issue. people won't buy it. So now you've doubly insulted the beef industry in the United States by, by, you know, really contaminating our food supply. Whether it's legit by this chemical or not, you've contaminated the food supply and people now are going to walk away or push away from beef. And it sounds like exactly something that the World Economic Forum would advise to do, right?

I mean, they hope the little, what is it, the Lone Star Tick could be spread more widely so that people would get the alpha gal, I can't eat beef anymore. I can't eat red meat for two or three years. It's because I've been bitten by this special tick. W.A.F. was saying, how can we make this tick more available, more prevalent throughout the world so that people don't want to eat beef? And here's Trump bailing out Argentina, buying their bad beef and potentially doing the same thing for us, causing people to say, you know what, I cannot buy beef. Well, if you can't buy beef, if you don't want to, if you prefer not to, you're in what's left of our beef industry.

We already know, I mean, farmers in beef in particular are declining. Family farms and stock, even the large companies that do the processing of the beef are closing their plants. So, yeah, it sounds like a world economic forum to me. So Trump has blown it completely. Right.

Well, we'll see in a couple of months. in a couple months. On a sad note, if those of you watching haven't heard this, the great Dolly Parton passed away today. She was 80 years old. She was up from poverty to the height of her profession. I met her, oh, probably three or four times at Fox. She told me she was a libertarian and she loved my work and hugged and kissed me like I was a family member. Every time she saw me, she was a wonderful human being. Put aside her relationship to me. She resonated with millions, millions of people around the world. Here I am a lover of Mozart and Beethoven,

and yet I could not stop listening to her songs about love. The great Dolly Parton, may she rest in peace. Colonel Koukowski's piece is called Who Knew Genocide Could Be So Expensive. There's Dolly as a baby. Who knew genocide could be so expensive at juddsnap.com, Lou Rockwell.com, and elsewhere. Karen, thank you very much. Always a pleasure. Absolutely. Thank you, Judge.

Sure. Sure. We'll see you next week. Coming up tomorrow, Wednesday at 8 in the morning, Gilbert Doctoro at 10 in the morning, Professor Glenn Deeson at 3 in the afternoon, the great Phil Giraldi. Ghaly, Ghaly, rest in peace. Judge Napolitano for judging freedom.