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When Donald Trump ordered the bombing on Friday, on Saturday night and Sunday morning,
depending on which time zone you're in, over Iran, did he and Netanyahu know that Trump was bombing empty tunnels
and that the nuclear centrifuges and enriched material had been removed?
Well, whether they did or not, Trump sought to convince Americans and his base
that they were destroying Iran's nuclear program
in a top gun style operation
with the porn themed name Midnight Hammer.
And it's turned out to be Operation Midnight Scammer
as what Iran even told us days before, which
is that it had moved its enriched uranium stockpile out of Fordow, has turned out to
be confirmed by a Defense Intelligence Agency assessment along with other intelligence officials
who are blowing the whistle on this scam, as well as Israeli pundits speaking
in broad daylight on Israeli networks, that this was just simply a symbolic strike by
Trump giving in to Israeli manipulation, which was designed to draw the US into a much larger regime change theater. And I heard that from a Trump official, an insider, who was familiar with a lot of these
discussions on how Trump was manipulated almost exclusively through the Mossad and Israeli
briefers pushing weapons of mass destruction deceptions that would be laughed at by the
American public, which were laughed
at, which is why Donald Trump didn't even bother making the case to Americans, as George
W Bush did on Iraq, that the smoking gun could soon become a mushroom cloud.
And so now nobody believes him except for the biggest Trump cultists, and even the intellectual architects of America First,
like Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon have accused Trump
of betraying their principles
and are portraying them as a kind of Orange McCain.
Nice phrase, Orange McCain.
I keep thinking of that phrase from Tom Woods,
no matter who you vote for, you end up with John McCain.
You are quite right, Max.
There was no serious effort to persuade the American people because there was no
evidentiary basis with which to make that case.
Today, in Brussels, he doubted, denied, and
condemned the findings of his own Defense Intelligence Agency.
You just alluded to that. When he said, I don't care what Tulsi Gabbard thinks.
He doubted, denied and condemned the findings of his own domestic intelligence,
whether not domestic, his own intelligence agencies, non military.
Who, who does he talk to?
Is it Netanyahu himself or are there actually Mossad briefers in the Oval Office?
There were actually Mossad briefers in the Oval Office in the briefing room. This is public. It was well known but not very, didn't receive enough focus, that Mossad director David Barnea and Ron Dermer, whose
father was the mayor of Miami Beach and is basically an American Israel lobbyist who went to work for
Netanyahu, had been quote unquote briefing the president and pushing him and they nearly pushed
him to do some version of this strike back in April.
That's when Mike Waltz was fired for secretly coordinating with Netanyahu. So this is well known
but what I got from a Trump official was that they were telling Trump that Iran had not only
had like a nuclear stockpile that could become a nuclear weapon
in a matter of weeks, but that within one week it would provide a nuclear warhead to
the Yemeni Houthis, which is just absolutely laughable.
The Trump official described the briefers as completely tactless, hyper-aggressive, fear-mongering. And the
person that it worked on best was someone who is the Israel lobby, which is
basically an arm of Israeli intelligence in the United States, APAC had cultivated
since the beginning of his career. In April at the gray zone, and I think we
discussed this here, we produced or I produced exclusive audio from an off-the-record
private APAC congressional briefing in which APAC's new CEO, Elliot Brandt, described how
his organization had groomed John Ratcliffe since he was a congressman coming out of Dallas,
the Dallas area. Who is John Ratcliffe? He has no background in
intelligence, no background in the military, was a small town lawyer who became mayor of a town of
7,000 outside Dallas called Heath. Then got elected to Congress, became funded by AIPAC with, you know,
Israel lobby money, and then emerges as one of Donald Trump's most loyal defenders.
Donald Trump nominates him for director of national intelligence simply because he wants a loyalist there,
doesn't care about his background or that he was just a backbench or nobody.
And John Ratcliffe's nomination initially fails because he lied about
Reckless' nomination initially fails because he lied about taking a lead role on one of the most politicized terrorism cases in American history against the Holy Land Foundation,
a case which was managed by Israel's Mossad to the point where the Mossad actually sent
one of its agents into the courtroom.
The courtroom had to be cleared and these Palestinian American defendants were subjected to dodgy dossiers claiming that they were at the nexus of a Hamas funding terrorist network and they were all given life sentences.
Completely phony trial, but Ratcliffe lied about being in that case.
He eventually made it to DNI a year later.
Then when Trump won again, he was appointed CIA director and John Ratcliffe has since become the key channel for Mossad director David Barnea in delivering Donald Trump phony Israeli intelligence briefings, claiming that Iran's nuclear stockpile was going to turn into a weapon in a week and that Trump could immediately eliminate it with this top gun style strike. So John Ratcliffe was referred to me by this Trump official as Mossad's stenographer. And now look at what Donald Trump is
about to do. Now that his whole case has collapsed about blowing up the Fordo, he is going to release more Israeli intelligence to counter his own US intelligence
officials in the Pentagon.
That's what Donald Trump is going to do to save his hide.
Wow.
I don't want to get too deep into the politics, but Congressman Ro Kahana, a progressive Democrat who's hooked up with Congressman Thomas Massey,
libertarian Republican, arguing that what Trump did was unconstitutional, did appear on air and
ticked off, mentioned, I don't mean he aggravated, he mentioned one by one the MAGA people that are staunchly opposed to what Trump
did. You mentioned a few of them earlier. Chris, cut number six. The tragedy in this country is that
we keep entering these overseas wars. We triumphantly declare the mission is accomplished the day after,
and then we're left with Americans bearing the consequences
for decades.
The headlines all across this country says,
the United States enters war with Iran.
He is actually representing a lot of the people
in the MAGA base, people like Steve Bannon,
Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Greene,
Theo Vann, who has had them on,
who's saying, we don't want this war.
And I heard your interview with Secretary Rubio.
He's saying, well, we want a peace deal.
We want to make sure that Iran can enrich uranium
through civil purposes.
Well, we had that.
We had that at the JCPOA,
and there was not a single violation
that the IAEA found during that time.
So my question, I guess, is now you're gonna force Iran
to go covertly in developing this nuclear material.
Now you've put American troops at risk.
Now you're wasting billions of our dollars
because we're sending more troops to the Middle East.
What did you accomplish and why are you oblivious
to the American people who are sick of these wars?
oblivious to the American people who are sick of these wars. There you go. That's an excellent summary, I think, of where we stand now. But for Trump
to continue to repudiate his own intel in deference to the Mossad, is this all to please
Miriam Adelson and her colleagues? I think it's actually, I think this is actually to please his own base.
The Trump cult, which believes that he actually carried out this brilliant maneuver that destroyed
Iran's nuclear stockpile ended the problem and it's to
get the Israelis off his back because if Trump can convince the world that the
nuclear issue is over that it was solved with one bombing run and then he
engineered this brilliant ceasefire a permanent ceasefire in which all sides
got to claim victory and there was this choreographed
exchange of symbolic strikes in which Iran got to save face by striking the al-Udeid base.
Then Donald Trump's legacy is pure and he's on the path
towards receiving the Nobel Prize for which he was nominated by Pakistan just 24 hours
before his strike. It all was perfectly choreographed,
but it's not going to go the way Trump wants
because it was all based on a lie,
because the Israelis are going to violate his ceasefire
again and again as Trump complained in the Rose Garden.
He said the Israelis were breaking the ceasefire
and he was disgusted that they dumped munitions
over Tehran in violation of the ceasefire and forced a 12-hour extension.
And he said they don't know what the F they're doing.
And he also has acknowledged that Israel was hit very hard by ballistic missiles.
So Trump is actually very unhappy with Israel. He's afraid of what could come next and he sees his entire master plan
potentially collapsing as the Israeli military chief of staff,
Eyal Zemir, has said that the war is not over. This was just a phase.
The Israelis will never honor a ceasefire.
They are in a race against time, and their colonial psyche
of existing in this kind of European reality where they never experience any
damage while they're carrying out a one-way war of extermination was
punctured by Iran's retaliation. So I think with Trump's lie being exposed,
with Israel feeling like it's in a race against time, and with Donald Trump's lie being exposed, with Israel feeling like it's in a race against time,
and with Donald Trump's strike
destroying the inspections regime,
which limited Iran's nuclear enrichment,
I think we're set for another phase of conflict
that Trump has just unlocked with this foolish strike.
Here he is at his incoherent worst when he used the F-bomb.
Chris has bleeped out the F-bomb. Well I thought this was pretty coherent but yeah. You can tell what it is.
Cut number 15. Israel as soon as we made the deal they came out and they dropped a load of bombs the
likes of which I've never seen before. The biggest load that we've seen. I'm not
happy with Israel. You know when I say say, okay, now you have 12 hours,
you don't go out in the first hour and just drop
everything you have on them.
So I'm not happy with them.
I'm not happy with Iran either.
But I'm really unhappy if Israel is going out this
morning because the one rocket that didn't land,
that was shot, perhaps by mistake, that didn't land.
I'm not happy about that.
We basically have two countries that have been land that was shot, perhaps by mistake that didn't land. I'm not happy about that.
We basically have two countries that
have been fighting so long and so hard
that they don't know what the fuck they're doing.
Do you understand that?
Did Netanyahu cry uncle?
Did he recognize the devastation that the Iranians had caused and how he and Mossad
and the IDF had underestimated, some of them have said this publicly, I think Ben Gavir
may have, how they underestimated the strength of Iran?
Did they call up Trump and say, you got to get us out of this mess that we started?
Well, first of all, in Trump's comments, that's the most daylight I've ever seen between
the U.S. and Israel after Trump does what Israel wants. You know, Bill Clinton privately complained.
Every president has hated Benjamin Netanyahu. Bill Clinton privately stormed out of a meeting
with him and said, you know, who's the effing superpower here? Donald Trump's saying it openly.
He's like, we're the superpower.
What is this small little foreign country doing trying to interrupt my diplomacy?
And Steve Bannon is saying-
I always assume when he says things critical of Netanyahu or Israel that it's a stunt.
It's a deception.
Well, he's trying to recover his dignity because he's under fire from his former chief of staff,
Steve Bannon. And it was Steve Bannon who actually said in his latest War Room broadcast that Israel
needed the ceasefire, that Israel was threatened, that Israel was weak. And Israel thought,
Netanyahu was under the delusion that after assassinating Nasrallah,
forcing a ceasefire with Hezbollah, after regime change in Syria two months after that,
three months after that, that he could turn his attention to Iran and put Gaza on the backburner
and just let the genocide simmer, and that he could score this devastating blow that would lead the U.S.
into eliminating Iran's
nuclear program.
That has failed.
In the first day of Israel's assault on Iran, Friday the 13th, it looked like Iran was completely
unprepared, that they were stunned, and that they would not even be able to respond.
Hours later, over 100 ballistic missiles descended on Israel and penetrated
the Iron Dome, the Arrow, the multi-billion dollar THAAD system, and U.S. destroyers were
trying to dock down ballistic missiles.
They couldn't do it.
And with that, Israel's colonial psyche was penetrated.
And this continued day after day, Israelis experiencing some version of what Gaza had been experiencing for the first time.
They had to choose between possibly being buried under the rubble or sweaty night after night in the shelters.
And this really has shaken Netanyahu.
And meanwhile, in Gaza, because Israel had concentrated so much focus on Iran, the Israeli military
has been on the run.
Western media isn't paying attention to this, but in Hanunis, Israeli military has been
taking bodies day after day.
Yesterday they lost seven soldiers in one incident.
So Netanyahu proclaimed that he would defeat Hamas by April 2024.
He proclaimed that he would achieve total victory.
He's put the hostage deal on the back burner
and they're still losing many soldiers in Gaza.
Hamas is still intact and they are now claiming
that they can defeat a regional power like Iran.
So I think Israel has been kind of exposed here and it all
goes back to the theory that Hassan Nasrallah introduced after Hezbollah kicked the Israeli
occupation army out of southern Lebanon in 2000, which is the spider web theory, which holds that
because of the colonial nature of Jewish IsraeliIsraeli society, if it faces enough
military pressure for enough time, that society will begin putting pressure on their military
intelligence elite and their leadership to make serious political concessions.
And so Israel is doing everything possible militarily to avoid the core political concessions
that will be necessary to secure its survival.
And one of those things that it thinks it can do is to continue to manipulate the U.S. into saving and protecting it.
But the American public has less appetite than ever, whether it's what we see, what we saw from Rohana and Thomas Massey teaming up on the War Powers Resolution,
what we see from the podcasters on the right like Theo Vaughn and Candice Owens or Steve
Bannon and Tucker Carlson in America First or on the left with the election of Zohran Mamdani,
a 33 year old assembly member and influencer who has called for the arrest of Benjamin Netanyahu if he ever
visits New York. Israel has lost the American public. Wow. What damage has Netanyahu done to
Israeli society? I mean this morning, well it's afternoon now there, can you go out to the store? Are the courts operating? Can children go to school?
In Israel? Yes. Israel society, Jewish Israeli society was semi-functional from what I understood
from people I know there throughout the war and it would sort of shut down around 6 p.m.
Restaurants would stop delivering. People would go to their safe rooms in their house or their bunkers.
Now it's open again. What we don't see in Israel is victory celebrations. There is no great victory.
Jewish Israelis have been at war for over 20 months now. They're increasingly exhausted.
The reservist corps is depleted. Israel's economy is suffering. It would
cost over $300 million a night to maintain this war, to keep up the air defenses, the interceptors,
which were being depleted. And Israel's due for another credit downgrade. A major tech hub or tech center in Berchevo was struck. Microsoft offices
were hit by a ballistic missile and this tech sector relies so much on foreign
direct investment and foreign direct investment relies on Israel's air
defenses to maintain a stable environment. So we're gonna see a
weakening of Israel's middle class.
And I was reading an article in an Israeli economic publication, Calculus,
which said that some of the major Israeli innovations to come are better bomb shelters for the population,
along with better surveillance tech. So that's not a place that I think a lot of people
want to live, especially Jews in the so-called diaspora
aren't going to wanna move there.
So the future looks increasingly dystopian and dark
for Israeli society.
And again, their military leadership has said
that there is no ceasefire
and that they will seek to reignite this war.
What does that mean for people living in Israel
who have basically become fodder
for Netanyahu's total victory?
The future's not bright.
As Theodore Herzl said,
but from a completely different angle, it is no dream.
What damage did Netanyahu do to himself
by starting this war, never expecting the retaliation that he induced?
We're going to see a political upheaval in Israel after Netanyahu leaves the scene.
And I think it will lead to another spiderweb-like situation, but more intense, but one that resembled what
we saw before October 7th in Israel, where Netanyahu was facing this full-on, almost
civil war over judicial reform.
And it became sort of a war between the right-wing messianist camp
and the Likud camp that supported Netanyahu and the enlightened public. What was left of the center
and center-left and the Ashkenazi elite. And you had reservists refusing to show up for duty,
including Air Force reservists, which was a significant role in weakening Israel and opening the door for an operation
like Al Aqsa flood on October 7th. Israel was at a very weak point by October 7th, but the
the shock and casualties of October 7th brought Jewish Israelis from all different sectors to
rally around the flag momentarily. That's all gone now
Netanyahu doesn't have any of that goodwill left and Israel is set for a major
Political upheaval as soon as Netanyahu's coalition
Cracked but what Netanyahu has failed to do is achieve the greatest
Objective of his life which is to bring about regime change in Iran.
And this is something we haven't talked about because we focus mostly on the nuclear issue.
Okay, the Defense Intelligence Agency has leaked this document showing that at best the U.S.
set back Iran's nuclear program by a few months.
So that was a failure.
But what Israel has done by initiating this war and killing over 600 Iranians,
almost mostly civilians, is set back the regime change plan, possibly decades.
There has been a huge rally around the flag effect in Iran. Everyone I met while I was in Iran is
now telling me that people who have deep grievances with the government, support the war,
were out in the streets chanting for the war. And Iranians have come together. They feel like it's another revolutionary moment.
The hybrid weapons of Western and Israeli regime change channels like Iran International,
BBC, Persia, the Western media are totally discredited inside Iran right now.
And so Netanyahu has achieved that. And then finally, in the US,
Netanyahu has achieved the disdain of a part of the American public that he always counted
on as the most reliable part of his base, which is Republicans. According to a new CNN
poll, only 20% of Republicans under the age of 45 were enthusiastic about Trump's strike.
And, you know, look at what their influencers are saying.
They're just disgusted with the whole thing.
So politically and psychologically, Iran has won this round,
and Israel, it's a self-inflicted blow by Israel.
Chris has just captured from about 30 minutes ago, President Trump and Secretary
Hegseth becoming irritated and defensive during the president's presser in
Brussels. And I can't wait to see it. So we're going to watch it together.
Chris, if you look at the dates, it's just a few days after it happened.
So they didn't see it. They said it may be
very severe. Go ahead.
Do you have a message for the intelligence community though in terms of unvarnished information
getting to you? That it's not...
I don't really have a message. I would say issue the report when you know what happened.
I wouldn't say that it could be severe or maybe not. They use the word severe. It could
be severe or maybe it's not. So people like you picked up and said, oh, it's not severe.
The report was not a complete report.
Yeah, the message was probably wait till you know the answer before you do.
Would you not have a public component to your Zelensky meeting for a tactical reason with President Putin?
Let him answer this.
Hello, Mr. Secretary.
Yeah. There's a reason the president calls out fake news for what it is.
These pilots, these refuelers, these fighters, these air defenders, the skill and the courage
it took to go into enemy territory flying 36 hours on behalf of the American people
in the world to take out a nuclear program is beyond what anyone in this audience can
fathom.
And then the instinct, the instinct of CNN, the instinct of the New York Times is to try to find
a way to spin it for their own political reasons to try to hurt President Trump or our country.
They don't care what the troops think. They don't care what the world thinks. They want to spin it
to try to make him look bad
based on a leak.
Of course, we've all seen plenty of leakers.
And what do leakers do?
They have agendas.
And what do they do?
Do they share the whole information
or just the part that they want to introduce?
And when they introduce that preliminary,
a preliminary report that's deemed to be a low assessment,
you know what a low assessment means? Low
confidence in the data in that report. And why is there low confidence? Because all of
the evidence of what was just bombed by 12, 30,000-pound bombs is buried under a mountain,
devastated and obliterated. So if you want to make an assessment of what happened at
Fordow, you better get a big shovel
and go really deep because Iran's nuclear program is obliterated.
And somebody, somewhere is trying to leak something to say, oh, with low confidence,
we think maybe it's moderate.
Those that drop the bombs precisely in the right place know exactly what happened when
that exploded.
And you know who else knows Iran.
That's why they came to the table right away because their nuclear capabilities have been
set back beyond what they thought were possible because of the courage of a commander in chief
who led our troops despite what the fake news wants to say.
But you're not disputing the report said what it said.
I mean, that's a political statement if ever I heard one there's
very little truth in what he said. Yeah. He's made a fool of himself on in an international forum
with an enormous audience watching. Well he didn't present any facts, he didn't present any evidence. He didn't deny the assessment.
He's, he's upset that the leakers work for him. It's the defense intelligence agency
whose job it is to evaluate this that leaked according to him, the absence of success because
of the planning ahead of time by the Iranians. No one's saying the bombs didn't hit. No one's saying they didn't hit their target.
No one's saying that this is all a fake,
but there was nothing there to hit except an empty tunnel.
Exactly.
And it is possible actually to reinforce
to the point where those MOPs
aren't going to actually destroy what's buried beneath the ground.
It is possible, but Maxar satellite imagery showed days before a long line of dump trucks
pulling up to the Fordow facility.
Iran openly announced that it had removed its 60% enriched uranium stockpile. Raphael Grossi,
the heavily biased IAEA director, even on Fox News said he doesn't know where the stockpile is.
Pete Hagseff is claiming that the entire nuclear program was destroyed. According to the DIA assessment, the US even failed to destroy
the underground Isfahan facility. It's not just Fordow. And there are facilities all
across Iran where that uranium, if Iran chooses, could be turned into a nuclear weapon to establish
deterrence against the coming and inevitable future Israeli attacks.
It doesn't require a vast facility as long as there are plans and centrifuges to produce
a nuclear weapon.
This is what Donald Trump has done by falling for the Israeli manipulation.
He has moved Iran outside the inspection regime permanently.
The IAEA is kicked out of Iran,
and the Iranian parliament has passed legislation to do that, and Iran may move to leave the NPT
in order to establish deterrence once and for all. Meanwhile, this scandal will only grow.
The intelligence, so-called intelligence community is disgusted with Trump's manipulation of intelligence
and the media that works hand in glove with them
is going to seek to use this to punish Trump
for weeks and weeks and I don't think
they're gonna have anything to come back with
except more dodgy Israeli intelligence.
Heg Seth should be ashamed of himself.
You have forgotten more than he's ever known.
Your grasp of these facts and ability to analyze and articulate them is spectacular, my dear friend.
Thank you very much. I hadn't seen it before.
Chris said it, Max will love it, and is texting me while we're on, because Max will devour it, and you surely did.
Thank you, my friend.
More great work by Chris.
Chris is unbelievable. We'll see you again next week. Thanks a lot, Judge. All the best.
And coming up later today, Max was absolutely terrific. Coming up later today, very soon, at one o'clock, Professor Glenn Deason. At two o'clock. We found him, Ambassador Craig Murray at three o'clock.
Phil Giroldi at four o'clock. Colonel Karen Kwiatkowski, Judge Napolitano for Judging Freedom. Music
