Judging Freedom - MUST WATCH: Kyle Anzalone: Anti-War Wrap Up.

Episode Date: May 23, 2024

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Yep, that is exactly what Mike Johnson wants. And now he's trying to put pressure on the White House to get them to agree. And just this is, I think, pretty recent news. And it was just written up by my colleague at antiwar.com, Dave DeCamp. But he's been joined in this battle by Antony Blinken, our Secretary of State in the White House, who in the internal discussions among the Joe Biden administration, he is now advocating for the White House to greenlight Ukraine to use American weapons to hit targets inside of Russia.

All right, so let's get this straight. We have given billions and billions in weaponry. A new tranche of weaponry either has arrived or is on its way over there from and after that unfortunate vote over which Mike Johnson presided in the House of Representatives two weeks ago. But Joe Biden, to his credit, small credit, but credit, has said you can't use American weapons to fight inside of Russia. Now you're telling me that Mike Johnson, the Republican Speaker of the House, and Tony Blinken, the Democrat Secretary of State, are lobbying the president to remove that restriction and allow the Ukrainians to engage in an offensive war. They're on their last legs, but they're going to engage in an

offensive war by attacking Russians in Russia with American weaponry. Yes, that's absolutely what they want to happen. And the danger of this is, of course, Biden has allowed Ukraine to attack inside of Russia. And there have certainly been reports of Ukrainian neo-Nazi militias using American weapons, small arms, armored vehicles, things like that, to conduct attacks, cross-border raids, and kill people inside of Russia. Now, I think what they're talking about here is the ATAKOMs and other long-range missiles that the U.S. has given to Ukraine. They want the White House to support Ukraine in using those to attack Russia. And likely that support is going to go further than just saying to Zelensky, okay, you could do this, because essentially the White House has already done that.

And what the White House statement has been recently on how Ukraine should wage this war is they say, we don't approve of Ukrainian attacks inside of Russia, but ultimately Ukraine chooses what they decide to hit. So Ukraine must need some U.S. support in carrying out these attacks, and that's probably intelligence and logistic and helping to set up these operations. And of course, Judge, this is incredibly dangerous. The most recent article that I wrote for the Libertarian Institute is about the Russian war games that are going on right now in southern Russia near the Ukrainian border, where they're drilling with their missiles that could carry tactical nuclear warheads. And they are doing this explicitly because

NATO countries, so that's France, Estonia, and Lithuania, talked about sending their troops to Ukraine to train Ukrainians and because to time, usually at three in the morning Eastern time, Patrick Lancaster, this morning. And Patrick says, and he lives and works in the area that Ukraine claims is still part of Eastern Ukraine. And Russia says under Russian law and international law is Russia. It is culturally Russian. But he says he is 100% certain that Western military equipment has been used and Western ammunition has killed Russians in Russia, and he showed us pictures of it, but he can't say for certain that it's American. Do you have other knowledge to say that you know, or your colleague who writes this up knows, for a fact that it is American military equipment being used? I'm saying equipment to mean the projectiles, the instrument that sends

the projectiles and the ammunition that has killed Russians. Because if that is the case, my second point, Russia can attack Americans, whether they're in Ukraine or whether they're in New Jersey. That's a very interesting point, Judge. i i'm not aware of any kind of shelling drone attacks missile attacks that have been from the ukrainian military in directly inside of russia and i think i watched that interview this morning with patrick lancaster and i really appreciated how nuanced he was about the weapons that are being used and if he confirmed if they were american or not so that was a great discussion and great reporting on his part. Then there were American armored vehicles and small arms that were used by neo-Nazi militias. I believe this was reported either by

the London Times or the Financial Times. Let me just stop you. Neo-Nazi Ukrainian militias. Correct. Correct. Okay, go ahead, please. Had conducted these cross-border raids into Russia. Previously, this was last year, sometime during the fall, that these raids were ongoing. And so, yeah, American weapons have been used in Russia by Ukrainians. Wow. This is crazy. But let me tell you how crazy it can get, because here's crazy and crazier.

I'm not even going to tell you who this is. I'm sure you've seen her a hundred times. You're probably sick of watching her. Chris cut numbers five and six consecutively. They need to be able to stop these Russian attacks that are coming from bases inside Russia. So I think there's also a question of whether we, the United States and our allies, ought to give them more help in hitting Russian bases, which heretofore we've not been willing to do. I think if the attacks are coming directly from over the line in Russia, that those bases ought to be fair game, whether they are where

missiles are being launched from or where they are, where troops are being supplied from. I think it's time for that because Russia has obviously escalated this war, including, as you said at the beginning, attacking Russia's second city, Kharkiv, which is not on the front lines and trying to decimate it without ever having to put a boot on the ground. So I think it is time to give the Ukrainians more help hitting these bases inside Russia. It's as much of a lunatic now that she teaches at Columbia University as she was before that. Chris, can you run the B-roll that you just texted me about? So this is what we call b-roll so there's no there's no sound uh but this is fresh uh and it is russian uh military preparedness for their their war games that you talked about uh kyle president putin ordered these drills as a response to perceived threats from the West. And these drills show, we understand,

there they are, the use of missiles aimed at censuring the equipment that is, ensuring equipment that is combat ready, that are nuclear. This is what Victoria Nuland has cost us. Am I right? Absolutely, Judge. And I think that clip of Victoria Nuland shows two things. One, she still seems to have significant influence. She says this in Mike Johnson, a Republican, and Annie Blinken, a Democrat. Both two people with a lot of influence are now making the same point that she was making. And the second point I think it shows is a column by another guest on your program, Aaron Mate from earlier in this week. He explained that the increasing escalation by the West and all the threats is a sign of desperation. And so the fact that the West is

now doing things like providing Ukraine with long range missiles and now threatening to attack inside of Russia with them, things that they promised their people that they would not do at the start of this conflict is a sign of how desperate they are and how bad Ukraine is losing at this time. Let's transition to London, where Julian Assange's legal team appeared in a British court two days ago for what they expected would be the order of his extradition. U.S. Marshals were there ready to receive him after he was removed from his solitary confinement. The United States State Department was there as well. What were they doing there? Well, these panel of judges three months ago ordered the extradition, subject to

they being satisfied by the U.S. government that Assange would be tried as if he were an American citizen with the full panoply of protections accorded by the Bill of Rights, that he could make a First Amendment, that's the Pentagon Papers case, defense, that he would not be harmed or tortured the way he is in London, and that he would not be exposed to the death penalty. Rather than having these representations made by the Attorney General or a high-ranking official of the DOJ, the Biden administration sent a letter by a political appointee in the American embassy in London, and the court rejected it. And the court said, he can file the appeal. He can file the appeal with this court on these four issues. Here is a clip of his sister outside the courthouse, our friend and colleague Matt Ho, who we thought was going to be on with us today but can't because of an unforeseeable conflict, was in the audience when she said this. point. We went into court and we sat and heard the United States fumbling through

their arguments, trying to paint lipstick on a pig. Well, the judges were not convinced. Everyone can see what's going on here. The United States case is offensive. It offends our democratic principles. It offends our right to know. It is an attack on journalists everywhere. We are relieved as a family that the courts took the right decision today. And as the case goes along, it becomes clearer and clearer to everyone that Julian is in prison for doing good journalism. The Biden administration

should distance itself from this shameful prosecution. It should have done so from day one. So a couple of comments before I ask your views. The video is courtesy of J.R. Bradbury, who sends us a lot of great material and it can only be described as a huge fan of the show. And I misspoke. Stella is Mrs. Assange, that is Julian's wife and not his mother. Your thoughts? Wife and not his sister. I said it was his sister.

Go ahead. Your thoughts. Right, Judge. So I really hope this is the good news that she portrays it as, that this really is the turning point in the UK courtroom and that they are about to win this appeal and Assange will be set free. My concern is that this is a political tactic being deployed by Washington and London here. They don't want to bring Assange to the US during an election year. And now there's also going to be a UK election coming up. So I don't think to bring Assange to the U.S. during an election year. And now there's also going to be a U.K. election coming up. So I don't think they want Assange to be a major point in either of those elections.

And by having this appeal, it's going to delay his extradition to the U.S. another six months, another year. And at that point in time, it won't be an election year and the left won't be able to pressure Biden on this. So I really do hope this is a good move. However, it really seems like Washington's goal here is to tie up Assange as long as possible, keep them in as inhumane conditions as long as possible, medical neglect, other kinds of psychological and physical abuse that, you know, the UN special rapporteur on torture said amounts to torture. Those are the conditions that Assange is being kept in. And they really just hope to keep him

wrapped up into this legal process until he dies. And while I really, again, hope that this is a turning point, oftentimes the American empire is willing to get what it wants when it's a top priority issue. And keeping Assange sil silence and behind bars as long as he's alive is one of their type priorities. Well, sadly, I think you're right. However, one of the representations that the State Department made in this letter that the court rejected was that he would probably serve, even if convicted of everything he's charged with, four to six years in the U.S. He's already served five years in solitary confinement in Great Britain. That might be

a hook on which old Joe and Tony Blinken can hang their hats if they want to cut a deal with the Australian government, set him free, and let him go home to Australia. I mean, you know the way these people think. It's an out for them. Well, look, he already got his time in jail, so we're going to wash our hands of it and go to other things. I just hope he gets out and is free and lands in a country where he's free to speak his mind and continue his work. He exposed the administration of George W. Bush for war crimes. The administration of Barack Obama decided his, Assange's exposure was protected by the Constitution, the First Amendment as interpreted by the Supreme Court in the Pentagon Papers case. It wasn't until Mike Pompeo became Secretary of State and Bill Barr

became Attorney General that they persuaded then-President Donald Trump to permit them to seek his indictment. This is the same Mike Pompeo who will not deny that he once planted and plotted while he was the head of the CIA to murder, to murder Julian Assange. I mean, there is no equity whatsoever on the side of the Americans in this case. Your thoughts? Yeah, you're absolutely right on all that, Judge. And the one thing I'll say, and the one reason I don't think Biden and Blinken are willing to just cut him loose and present as a win on this issue is because of what WikiLeaks is and who Julian Assange is. He is the most important journalist in the post-Cold War era.

Throughout the terror wars, WikiLeaks has given us the most vital information that we have, and not only on the war on terror, not torture, not the Iraq war, the Afghan war, but including the memo that Bill Burns wrote to his boss, Condoleezza Wright, net means net, explaining why the Russians are hardline on the position of Ukraine and Georgia joining NATO. And so in so many different places, Julian Assange has foiled the American empire. And right now, if you look at what they have going on with the war in Ukraine and the massive corruption boondoggle, that is what if he gets out and WikiLeaks functions as an organization again, and they get their hands on some documents exposing the corruption and how much money is being stolen in Kiev, or they get videotapes like the collateral murder video that exposed

the Israeli war crimes in Gaza. I mean, he could seriously turn the public against these wars. He is a major threat to the empire. Very nicely put, and I'm sure they view it that way. Transitioning over to Israel, I think you've probably seen this because it's gone viral, but we're going to play it. This is D'Angelo Fletcher. Mr. Fletcher was the valedictorian at Morehouse College's graduation last weekend, at which President Biden received an honorary PhD. Listen to what Mr. Fletcher said while speaking next to President Biden. Watch the look on President Biden's face and watch his hands.

It is my stance as a Morehouse man, nay as a human being, to call for an immediate and permanent ceasefire in the Gaza is stripped. The man who could make this happen with a phone call, with the snap of a finger, sat there and applauded. Did he know what he heard? Did he understand what he heard? Was his mind a million miles away? Was he just trying to be disrespectful to the speaker? What are your thoughts? Yeah, I don't think he was actually listening.

In fact, for the audience that isn't watching the video, Biden there at first looks like he's waiting for an ice cream cone and then gets one and starts applauding. So I don't think he actually understood where he was or what was being said. And I do know sometimes at events like that, it can be hard to even hear the speaker if you're sitting behind them. So at Biden's old age and with his mental abilities, he may really just have been sitting there and told to clap when other people clap, and that's all he was doing. For those who are receiving the show audio only next to um uh d'angelo fletcher was president biden who who looked like he was off in the distance but who did uh clap with his hands if you if you want to

see this uh you can watch the show as it's posted on youtube but those of you who catch just the audio, I wanted to explain to you what's going on. Should Benjamin Netanyahu and Foreign Minister Galant, first name escaping me now, of Israel, be prosecuted as war criminals before the ICC? Yeah, I think the Defense Minister Yoavant, is joined with Prime Minister Netanyahu and three members of Hamas being prosecuted by the International Criminal Court. Absolutely justified, Judge. I was surprised by this. I really didn't think it was going to happen for a few reasons. One, that this is going to be a hotly contested move. It's really going to upset the Americans.

And in the past, we've seen the Biden and Trump administration bully the ICC into getting them back off of investigations against Afghanistan for the Americans and what Israel has done in Palestine. So this is a surprising move, but it's a good sign. And even if he never actually faces justice at the Hague, which I don't imagine will happen, I don't think there's ever going to be a trial. He won't go to a country where he could be arrested. He'll be just happy being somewhere in Israel. But that being said, it's going to help in the U.S. turn up the political pressure on the White House. All their denials about this is a genocide, and we're backing the Israelis who are very careful, the most moral army on earth, just had another massive bomb dropped on that narrative. Here's the ICC prosecutor, Karim Khan, announcing the charges. Cut number nine. by my office that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Minister of Defense Yoav Galant bear criminal responsibility for the following

international crimes committed on the territory of the state of Palestine from at least the 8th of October 2023. The crimes include starvation of civilians as a method of warfare, willfully causing great suffering, serious injury to body or health or cruel treatment, willful killing or murder, and intentionally directing attacks against a civilian population, as well as crimes against humanity of extermination and or murder, persecution, and allegations of crimes of committing other inhuman acts. It's hard for me to believe. He didn't file the indictment and he didn't issue the arrest warrant. He needs the permission of three judges to do so. So he has formally asked them for that. It would be hard for me to believe that they don't authorize him to do so. This will put Netanyahu, in my view, and I welcome yours, of course,

further isolate Israel as long as Benjamin Netanyahu is the prime minister. Absolutely, Judge. And his case is going to be very strong, especially against these two men. With Netanyahu, the biggest omission that he made was he publicly called for the Israeli soldiers to treat the Palestinians like Amalek, which is a reference to a biblical story where the Israelis are told to wipe out Amalek. And so a reference to a biblical story where the Israelis are told to wipe out Amalek. And so that's an obvious call for ethnic cleansing or genocide. But even more obvious is the one made by Yoav Galan calling for no food, no water, no fuel, no aid of any kind to enter Gaza, and then referring to the Palestinians that live there as human animals. And so these are

essentially people who have conducted murders and then stood on the street corner with bloody hands waving the knife. And they are saying, I just killed that man. The evidence is absolutely so strong against them. And if they ever face trial, they I'm sure would be convicted. Here's a speaker, Mike Johnson saying America should punish the ICC. Cut number 14, Chris. America should punish the ICC and put Kareem Khan back in his place. And if the ICC is allowed to threaten Israel's leaders, we know that America will be next. There is a reason that we've never endorsed the International Criminal Court, because it is a direct affront to our own sovereignty.

We don't put any international body among or above American sovereignty, and Israel doesn't do that either. Congress is reviewing all of our options right now. We have some very aggressive legislation that we're going to push as quickly as possible. It will impose sanctions. And if the ICC moves forward with its absurd warrant arrest or request, this is going to be an even bigger international problem.

I've never seen politicians threatening prosecutors before. I mean, in America, that's a federal crime to threaten a prosecutor who's exercising his or her discretion. And I have to correct Speaker Johnson, the United States is a signatory to the UN Charter, which we wrote in the Truman administration. And the UN Charter establishes the International Court of Justice, on which there is an American jurist, and we are subject to that. So he's wrong when he says we have never recognized a court outside the United States. I know conservative Republicans don't like to hear that, but it is true. Your thoughts? Well, Congress has also passed what is known as the Hague Invasion Act, and this was in 2002 to protect George W. Bush and other American officials from war crimes should they have been indicted by the Hague. And so Congress has really taken shots at this body before.

During the Trump administration, we sanctioned members of the ICC for looking into U.S. war crimes in Afghanistan, Israeli war crimes in Palestine. And so there is a rich history of doing this. But I think the reason that Mike Johnson is so concerned and so many members of the American government have taken such strong stands against this is that if the Israeli officials are guilty of conducting war crimes in Gaza, then we are absolutely 100% guilty of enabling and embedding all those same war crimes. If that guy on the street is waving around the knife saying, I murdered him, maybe the only person who doesn't believe it is the person who gave him the knife or something like that wants to deny it because they know they're an accessory to that crime should

they get arrested. So I think that's probably the only concern and why they're coming out so hard against it. Agreed. Agreed. And nicely put, Kyle. And thank you for your time today and your usual expertise across a broad array of issues from Ukraine to Assange to Israel and Gaza.

All the best, my friend. We'll see you again soon. Thank you for having me, Judge. Of course. Coming up at five o'clock Eastern today, the inimitable Max Blumenthal. Judge Napolitano for Judging Freedom. spring is in the air and at minky cure, we're celebrating this joyful season with warmth, love, and the softest, coziest blankets. Whether you're cuddling up after an Easter egg hunt or gifting a little extra comfort to someone special, our luxury blankets make every moment even sweeter.

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