Judging Freedom - Phil Giraldi : A Nation at War

Episode Date: October 29, 2025

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Today is Wednesday, October 29, 2025. Our dear friend Phil Giraldi joins us now. Phil was the Whitkoff-Kushner-Trump Gaza plan, just a scam to allow the Israelis to be relieved of the domestic pressures put on them by the hostage families? I'm not sure scam is the right word. I think this is something that was contrived right from the beginning as a mechanism to give Israel all the options in terms of what it would do, how it would do it, how long it would continue to play the ceasefire card or the peace plan, Trump peace plan card, and gave Israel the options to start it up again, the fighting, which is exactly what they did back the last time there was a ceasefire. They came up with excuses that were

considered by most to be fallacious and that's essentially what they've done again this time and in the one day that the ceasefire has been broken they killed over a hundred Palestinians including as usual mostly women and children what is the status of affairs on the ground now is the IDF physically located in Gaza as an illegal occupying army not with standing the so-called peacefire agreement signed at Charmelshak? Well, the thing is, there are two questions there. I think everybody in the international community, but Israel in the United States, would argue that Israel is in occupation of both the areas on the West Bank and also Gaza illegally.

And this is a war crime, an international crime. And the other question is, you know, is Israel an occupation? Yeah. Well, when you look at the so-called yellow line that they've constructed in Gaza, the Israelis have apparently 53% under their occupation, and it's only the other 47% that's been basically, at least temporarily, seated to the Palestinians. Wow.

And what was Netanyahu's excuse for ordering, I don't know if he used the word massive or forceful, because I don't know what he said in Hebrew or exactly how it's translated into English, but something like that response that resulted in 100 deaths, 34 of them children? Yeah, well, basically, he said it would be a massive response. And that's indeed what it was. The Gazans, of course, who were looking around for food and shelter weren't prepared for this. And that's why the count of dead was so high just for one day. And, yeah, Netanyahu has, his game to be played here is to keep himself politically viable.

And politically viable means doing things that his extreme right-wing friends like Ben Gavir and Smotrich are demanding. that he do. So he's got to do that. If this ceasefire goes into something perhaps more temporarily permanent if I can use that expression temporarily permanent

yeah. Remember Milton Friedman, there's nothing more permanent than a temporary government program but that's sort of the flip side of this. Ben Gavir the one who's the head of what would be considered

the Israeli equivalent of the American FBI, of all things, actually said, now that the hostages are home, it's time for us to go back in and finish the job. He's actually said that in public. And I don't know the audience to which he said it, but he was cheered by them. Yeah, that's correct. And of course, for Ben Gavar and Smotrits,

it's as long-ven gospel as it were. They have been saying that right from the beginning that the Solitaire, is basically to destroy Hamas completely. And they have also said that their intention would be to drive out the Palestinians also completely, sending them into the Sinai Desert or Sudan, are the two places I've seen mentioned, and getting rid of them, essentially. And that's, of course, what's going on also.

What's going on in Gaza tends to obscure what's going on in the West Bank, which in some ways is almost more horrific. You have these gangs of settlers who have been given automatic weapons, and they're observed by the Israeli army, and they're allowed to go in and kill Palestinians, destroy all their livelihood. I mean, they've destroyed over 100,000 olive trees, the oil of which is heavily dependent,

required by the Palestinians to survive. It's one of the few products that they have. So they're destroying all that. They're destroying the villages. They're driving people out of their homes. They're killing livestock. These are not nice people. These people are odious.

And the sooner that the United States public continues its evolution now where it's beginning to see the light about who's running this country for better. You know, Aaron Mante was just on, and he told us that many of the people, these people are his former neighbors in Brooklyn. These are American Jews who have gone to the West Bank to maim, kill, and steal? Yeah, that's precisely. These are not necessarily Israelis. Well, they're dual nationals. They're American citizens, and they're also, in most cases, is Israeli citizens too. A Jew can step off the plane into Israel and become a citizen the next day.

A Christian or a Muslim or me and you cannot do that. So this is the backdrop to what these people, where they come from. And of course, a lot of the most extremist American Jews are in places like Brooklyn. Many of these ultra-Orthodox sects are extremely radical. And this is basically what's happening. These people have gone over there. They give them a gun, and they go out and they kill people. I wonder if that member of Congress, forget his name, Brian, he lost his legs in either Afghanistan or Iraq.

Right. And he has worn an IDF uniform on the floor of the House of Representatives. Is it Brian Mast M-A-S-T? I wonder if he's a joint citizen. Can you be a member of Congress and be the citizen of another country? Well, in his case, since he's not Jewish, I would assume he cannot become an Israeli citizen. He was a volunteer serving with the Israeli army.

And since he didn't have any legs, he was somewhat limited in the things he could do. He was at like a headquarter or a supply center, and he was doing that kind of work. But yeah, he shows up at Congress. He's from Florida, of course, and he shows up in Congress with his uniform on. And there are numerous Israeli flags in the halls of the congressional offices. And so he's not unique there.

I would imagine there are quite a few Jewish-American congressmen who are dual nationals. And I would immediately give them a one-way ticket to go to Israel since they seem to like it so much. And they don't seem to be wanting to do anything for the United States, for the people like us who are Americans. According to AI, Congressman Brian Mast, is not a dual citizen. He was born and raised in the United States.

As the U.S. citizen was served in the United States Army, He has volunteered with the Israeli defense forces, but this does not confer Israeli citizenship, and he has not publicly indicated a desire for dual citizenship. I was just curious because I saw him on one of the screens outside my office recently, meaning either that he was on Newsmax or he was on Fox. Switching gears, what is the CIA doing in Venezuela? as we speak? Well, I can give you two answers to that.

I don't know exactly because I'm not connected with those people. But based on my own experience, I would assume what CIA people like me, operations people, and there certainly are some of them in Venezuela are doing, is basically to subvert the existing Venezuelan government and support people like the woman who just got her peace prize, who are subversive to the government. So that's what they're doing. They're mixing it up to weaken the government,

maybe to bring it down and playing that kind of game. I want to play a clip. This is the Venezuelan Interior Minister, so this also was the rough equivalent of the head of the FBI, for Venezuela. Alster Crook knows this fellow and says he's an intelligent, educated, responsible, trustworthy person. But here's what he says about the CIA in Venezuela. And this is just two days old. He said it on Monday, today's Wednesday. Chris, number one. I was on my way here just a moment ago. And they informed me about three people. They captured at another location with CIA manuals. And they have no shame.

So they arrive and delete things from their phones because they think that by deleting their phone, everything disappears. But no, those phones talk. They talk. And what we've discovered is truly pure gold. The CIA is connected to those sectors that hate Venezuela. We live in peace and security in this country,

so please just leave. us alone. It is undoubtedly an act of aggression. These military exercises, which they are currently conducting together with Trinidad, are clear provocations. These actions have been denounced in the official statement that you are referring to. CIA is connected to those sectors that hate Venezuela. Now, what does that mean? What are they actually doing? Are they bribing people, arming people, organizing people to to what, to storm the presidential palace? Well, again, based on my own experience,

they're probably in touch with all the groups that are hostile to the current regime there. They're probably funding them. They're probably giving them advice and that kind of thing. But the specific incident he just spoke about on the video is what I saw this morning reporting that some armed individuals and i think they were presumed to be columbians and the presumption was that they had been armed and trained by the cia uh probably in a neighboring

country and sent in there to uh to make trouble now the the the gentleman who just spoke obviously said he said you know these were uh obviously trained by the c a done by the cia I must be sure how he knows that. He said something about a manual. Did the manual have a cover that said this is the CIA official publication? I doubt that. On both sides, there's a lot of presumptions about who is doing what to whom. And I wouldn't necessarily trust all the details.

But as I say, in my own experience, it would be an overthrow type operation at CIA. would be running and they would be running it with the Venezuelans themselves, the Venezuelans who consider themselves to be against the regime. Sort of like when they overthrew Salvatore Allende in Chile in the 70s. Yes, absolutely. They found a lot of people in the Chilean military who were not sympathetic with Allende, and these were the people that they kind of got in touch with and provided support for. And that's the way the game works.

Here's President Maduro himself, also on October 27th, two days ago, saying that the CIA is planning false flag operations on a U.S. ship docked in Trinidad. I don't know how he knows that, but this is what he's claiming at Chris number two. Between Saturday night and yesterday Sunday at dawn, a number of arrests were made of what could be a group of mercenaries prepared. and financed by the CIA. And all that led us to uncover the plan for a self-attack that the CIA

was going to carry out against its military vessels that they had positioned off Venezuela, in Trinidad and Tobago. To their navas military that have positioned at the front of Venezuela in Trinito-Bago. With the barco that they metierro in Trinito-Bago. That is what was intended with that ship

they brought into Trinidad and Tobago, where unfortunately the Prime Minister Trinidad and Tobago is an neighbor and promoter war because of her own personal, physical, mental, and moral weaknesses. I mean, would the CIA have its own agents or assets attack an American ship so that Heggseth could claim we were attacked and thereby have a pretext for invading Caracas? Would anybody believe that Venezuelan military was crazy enough to launch an unprovoked attack? on an American ship, given the hardware and magnitude of personnel assembled right off their coast?

Well, I would put it this way. I would have said prior to Donald Trump and Marco Rubio being the key players in this kind of thing, I would have said that this is ridiculous. That would not occur, a false flag like that attacking one zone. ship in a harbor and a neighboring country as a false flag incident, pretending that they're Venezuelans, I think it's too crazy for words. But it's the sort of thing Donald Trump might go for. How are Venezuela and Colombia enemies of the United States? How do they pose any threat whatsoever to the national security of the United States? Well, they basically

prior to the U.S. cranking it up with these essentially phony, it seems, drug charges, I would have said they had, they posed no threat to the United States. But now the fact that we're making enemies all over Latin America, because all the other countries in Latin America are looking at this, and they're understanding that what the game is. And now that it is a threat. It's another place where the United States is stepping in its own do-do as they did so effectively in Ukraine, and have they done so effectively by supporting Israel, no matter what Israel does in the Middle East.

So, yeah, it looks like we're at it again, and it's going to have a bad outcome. Here's President Maduro again, accusing the U.S. of basically acting like they're producing a Hollywood movie. Number four, Chris. So the American Empire is playing a dangerous card for our region, but it's also dangerous for them. And what's more, it's an extremist card. They can't say that Maduro has weapons of mass destruction. Or can they say about me what they said about Saddam Hussein? they can't

no one would believe them so they come up with the same Hollywood style stories where Maduro is the villain and they're the good guys and then they're going to send in their army the good guys in the movie blonde strong just like that

come looking for the Latino the villain but the real story the people know it that the villain isn't who they say it is the villain is the one who writes the script the one who makes the movie over there those are the real villains as we've shown many times. Venezuela is a free country, completely free from the phenomenon of drug

trafficking. Free, there isn't a single, not a single hectare planted with coca leaves. There are no coking laboratories. And the ones, they sneak in across the border, ping, pong, pow, we destroy them ourselves. Our police forces, our military forces, there isn't even a single Hector of Marijuana, because in addition, marijuana is now produced legally on U.S. soil. It says Hector. Of course, he's talking about a unit of land. I don't know if it's larger or smaller than an acre, but it's the measurement of land in Latin America rather than the word Hector. Is he saying that the CIA brings drugs into Venezuela and then claims that Venezuela has originated the drugs?

Would the CIA do that? Well, I think actually what he's saying is that the U.S. is claiming that these drugs are coming from Venezuela and that are being grown and produced in Venezuela, which back a few years ago, the U.S. government even conceded what was not the case. The drugs that are flowing into the United States don't come from Venezuela. They come from places like Colombia and Mexico. And so, you know, this is well known to people who follow the drug trafficking. And yeah, well, sure, the CIA will follow orders, particularly as Trump tends to fire anyone who doesn't follow orders.

And they would do something stupid if Trump and the director of CIA is a total non-entity. this ever since he's been appointed. I don't know if he has any say in anything. I think a lot of this stuff is coming out of Rubio, it's coming out of the Department of War, and it's coming out of Donald Trump's empty head. Scott Ritter, our mutual friend and colleague, says that Rubio is extremely dangerous

and has been dreaming about invading, of Venezuela since he was in the House of Representatives before he was even in the Senate. Yeah, I mean, that's a fact. Rubio is one of these crazy Cubans who came to the United States and decided he was going to take on all of Latin America and reform it. And he's not a fine job, as we would all know. Right, right. By the way, one of the viewers tells me that a Hector is about two and a half acres. So it's a unit of measurement of land.

And you get the picture. He said there's not a single square hectare of coca leaves or of marijuana being grown in Venezuela. But marijuana is legally grown. He's quite correct in the United States. I think marijuana is legal in about 37 of the 50 states, even though technically, technically it's still illegal at the federal level. The feds have decided under Joe Biden and Donald Trump not to enforce that law. What is the Trump administration, your piece of nation at war has fascinated me. What is the Trump administration doing in Africa, excuse me, in Africa, Phil?

Well, it's heavily engaged in Somalia, which is hardly ever reported. And Sudan also. There have been a number of incidents that are on the back page of the New York Times, given two lines describing how there have been, know, three strikes again in Somalia, X number of people killed. Same sort of thing in Sudan. And these are the unreported kind of places where the U.S. is in with a heavy hand. And there doesn't seem anywhere that Trump and company don't seem to think that the locals would be improved by becoming more like Americans.

Well, that's maybe a debatable factor. Yeah, yeah. So the President of Peace is starting, participating in, or funding wars almost all across the planet. Europe, Asia, South America, Africa. They probably should pick a fight in the Arctic or Antarctica so that they can complete the circle. Yeah, I suspect they're going to do that. I mean, they keep citing the Arctic, see, because. the Arctic, you know what the Arctic is. It also borders on Russia, and those are bad people. And as a result, we have to straighten out the Canadians, because the Canadians also border on the Arctic area, as does Greenland. So we're trying to straighten them all out to do the right thing by the United States of America.

And if we have to, if we have to, we'll invade them and take them over. Exactly. Wow. So if Canada became part of the United States, well, the Democrats would certainly control the Congress, Mr. President. That's right. Bill, if you are free at 9 o'clock tomorrow morning, your former colleague is making a return to judging freedom. Jack will be back. I would love to hear him. I would love to see you debate him, and maybe we'll do it. sometime. When he asked me, or his assistant asked Chris, what I wanted to talk about. I said,

Chris, give him a one word answer. Venezuela. Jack was in charge of the CIA in Latin America for a number of years. I don't know. I don't know what the hell he's going to say, but he's anxious to come back and we'll probably have some minor explosions between the two of us. Well, you know, it's funny, But when I was in Hamburg back many, many years ago, one of my colleagues there in Germany was the guy who overthrew Allende in Chile. So we used to sit down over lunch and he told me those amazing stories about how this whole thing played out. It was sort of like a comic routine as it went along and how they were developing. But none of these things work by the script. Wow. Is Jack old enough to have been involved in the overthrow of Allende?

I'm not talking about Jack. I'm talking about the guy who was actually in charge of it. Right. No, but I'm just wondering if Jack could have been involved in that. I'm sure if I ask him, he's not going to want to answer me. It could be. Could be. This other guy was the chiefest station in Chile. Wow. And he managed the whole thing. Well, we have a full day tomorrow, including many of our. friends, but of course, I'm looking forward to this reunion with Jack. I just don't know what's going to happen. Phil, thank you very much for your time, dear friend. If you have any questions

for Jack, send them to Chris, and he'll send them to me during the show. Okay, sounds good. We'll have a lot of fun. Thank you, my dear friend. Have a great day, great evening. See you soon. Oh, by the way, by the way, Phil, if you're still there, Gerald Salenti sends his regards. I was with him earlier today. Oh, that's great. We'll send them, send his regards to him. My heart, regards to him. You got it. You got it. All the best, Phil. Thank you, my friend.

Thank you. And coming up tomorrow, Thursday, at 8 in the morning from somewhere in China, not Jack yet, Pepe Escobar, at 9 in the morning, Jack is back, Jack Devine. At 2 in the afternoon, Colonel Larry Wilkerson, at 3 in the afternoon, Professor Jai. and Mearsheimer at 4 in the afternoon, Max Blumenthal. Judge Napolitano for Judging Freedom.

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