Judging Freedom - Phil Giraldi - Biden’s Secret War in Ukraine

Episode Date: July 20, 2022

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My guest today really needs no introduction to those of you who regularly watch the show. Phil Giraldi is a former intelligence officer for the United States Intelligence Services and our regular go-to guy on what the government and what the military and what the intelligence community is up to that they don't want us to know about. Phil, it's a pleasure. Thank you for coming back to Judging Freedom. Well, thank you for having me on again. So you wrote an unbelievable piece recently posted at the UNZ review and probably elsewhere called Joe Biden's Secret War in Ukraine, the thesis of which is that the American government is lying to the American people, surprise, surprise, that we are far more embedded and

involved in the war, and that the neocons and globalists around Joe Biden want to use the war for other purposes, mainly the removal of Vladimir Putin from his position in Russia. But I want to start with the most incendiary thing in your piece. You quote the President of the United States. Now, I know you're quoting somebody else quoting him, but you quote the president of the United States as having said to American troops in Poland, quote, you're going to see when you're there. And some of you have been there. You're going to see dot, dot, dot. Talking to American military about Ukraine. Did the President of the United States wittingly or unwittingly admit that there have been American troops on the ground in Ukraine from and after the start of the Russian invasion? Yeah, it's an interesting comment and of course the interesting

the most interesting aspect of it is how the white house then tried to cover up the comment by saying that uh the president had misspoken and that there are no american troops in ukraine but of course the evidence is that there are american troops in ukraine but of course the evidence is that there are american troops in ukraine they were there before the the fighting started they were in there as advisors uh and uh they were pulled out to poland or probably most of them were pulled out to poland when the fighting actually started but then uh the embassy was reestablished, the military at the Shea office was reestablished, and we had $60 billion, a large part of which is military equipment that these dudes have to be trained on. So you know that American troops went back in as this equipment started flowing back in. And the question is, you know, what is the cover?

What kind of covers are they under? What kind of hidden arrangements are there? And, of course, the real danger is that at a certain point, some of them are going to get killed or, even worse, captured. And then they start to talk. So this is a dangerous, dangerous thing. And Biden is lying about it. When you say cover, I mean, do these troops wear uniforms? Do they carry weapons?

Do they dress as civilians? Are they clean shaven? Are they obviously American troops? And if they are, how dangerous is it if Russians see them? Yeah, well, I think the consensus among people like myself, some of whom I quote in the article, is that there are soldiers on the ground, U.S. soldiers, and these people are basically not in uniform by and large. There might be some in the embassy who are, but these people are basically not in uniform by and large there might be some in the embassy who are but these people are not in uniform uh if they were in uniform they would have uh certain

protections uh afforded the prisoners of war and that sort of thing and the idea is they are probably working under various covers they might be working under covers of international aid organizations or Red Cross. It could be almost anything. And my suspicion would be that that is how they're operating. And as far as they're being identifiable as Americans, you've traveled, as I have, in Europe and Eastern Europe, and you know well that people can spot an American from about two miles off. Right, right. Let me turn to the flip side of what you said. If they were wearing uniforms, they'd be protected by the Geneva Convention. They're not wearing uniforms, therefore they are not protected. Therefore, if they are captured by Putin's forces, what protection do they have under the law?

Probably none without a uniform and an identifiable insignia on that uniform. Absolutely. That's the whole story there. They could be seized as spies and they could be summarily executed. And, you know, this is a dangerous game they're playing. And my real concern as I try to express it in that article is that the meatballs in the White House don't seem to have any grasp of just how dangerous this is or where it might be going. And I know today that what is the US Senate worrying about? Legalizing or making same sex marriages legal all across the United States by law. This is what they're worrying about.

We're looking at a potential nuclear war, nuclear exchange with a country that has more missiles and more bombs than we do, and they're worrying about same-sex marriage. There's something seriously wrong here. Let me ask you about the status of the war and what the White House understands. It seems to me that it is virtually over, that the Russians have conquered the territory that they want. Our friend and colleague, Colonel Doug McGregor, says the elite fighting forces, the Russian elite fighting forces, aren't even in Ukraine anymore. It's almost like the second string is there now. Where does the Biden administration expect this to go? Do they not know how weak the Ukrainians are and how dominant the Russians are?

Well, this is, of course, the big question. Why is it that the White House has not figured out that this is a losing gambit that they're backing and why aren't they pushing for negotiations which even putin uh and zelensky at times have kind of suggested might be the ultimate solution to all this instead of that where we have biden on his recent trip and his trip to nato saying that we are backing ukraine all the way and we're in it until we win it now what kind of a brain comes up with that as a issue of national policy uh I'm you know it's it's kind of scary in fact it goes beyond scary the the they might be just playing a game, but I don't think they're smart enough for that. Let me tell you how scary our colleague Colonel McGregor thinks it is.

He thinks we are actually depleting American military supplies that we need for the defense of the United States in order to shore up the Ukrainians. So we're not only making available to them unused excess NATO military supplies, but now, five months into the war, they're actually receiving new equipment, which was originally destined for our use, God forbid, that we ever need it. So the money the Senate has allocated is not buying equipment for the Ukrainians. It's buying equipment for the U.S. military to replace the American military equipment that has been shipped over there. Do you accept that thesis? Yeah, I think Colonel McGregor is one of the truly brilliant minds who is looking at the situation. Other sites I would recommend are Moon of Alabama, Larry Johnson. There are a number of people who are coming to the same basic conclusions. And

this again strengthens the argument that U.S. troops are on the ground. You don't take billions of dollars of complicated military equipment and ship it into the country. It's coming in by airplanes. It's coming in across the Polish border. And you just don't hand it over to somebody and give them the keys. It doesn't work that way. I was in the Army. To operate this kind of equipment takes months of training, not just days. What information is the American intelligence community giving to the White House? Are they telling the White House what they think the White House wants to hear? Or are they telling them the real true story of what's going on uh on the ground by the way i ran into a guy the other day he's a lieutenant

colonel in the regular army but he he he had civilian clothing on uh we weren't expecting to see him there would they say something like that in the oval office that's a good question. I would hope that he, the president, and Blinken, and whoever else is sitting in the room at that time, they are being told the truth. And certainly the intelligence community has the resources to ferret out what is basically the truth in terms of what's going on. But at the same same time these people who are at the top of the intelligence organization in any country not just the us are politicians and to a certain extent they're going to be saying what the audience wants to hear and that's what scares me i have a have a feeling that this is being packaged in a way or framed in a way that in many ways conceals the reality of just how bad the

situation for the ukrainians is the russians have achieved basically all the territorial areas that they wanted to achieve on day one they they basically have a land bridge now over the crimea and they are in control of the areas where a predominant number of Russians live. So that seems to be about it. But it's really time to start talking and to stop blustering. Your article begins by recounting that the United States, and I'm quoting you, will establish a permanent headquarters in Poland for the Fifth Army and maintain additional rotational brigades of thousands of troops in Romania and bolster other deployments in the Baltic states. Isn't this taunting and tempting, Putin? Isn't this the same?

Isn't this the same as the Chinese putting troops on the other side of the Rio Grande? Yeah, it's exactly that. I mean, it's basically, you know, they're reading the tea leaves exactly the wrong way. Putin made it clear that what he was concerned about was a military alliance arriving there on his front doorstep. And so what do we do? Instead of looking for a way to negotiate the situation and to ease off on it, we are putting a military alliance on his front doorstep. We're strengthening it. We're bringing in more troops. We're bringing in more equipment. The whole thing is obscene. Now, if you and I ran into Tony Blinken, the Secretary of State, in a bar and fed him three or four gin martinis of whatever his favorite gin is, and he started spouting the truth, what would he tell us is his, not Joe Biden's, his real goal in Ukraine? That's a tricky question.

Blinken hasn't really left enough footprints in terms of what he really believes. essentially he probably equates being tough with Russia over Ukraine as establishing American or re-establishing American supremacy basically worldwide. I think that's how neocons argue this kind of issue. They think that if we back down from Russia now, I mean, the game is over. And they might be right about that. But the fact is, I would wish to see the game over. And they instead believe that American power, for numerous reasons, including being able to protect Israel by being powerful throughout that region, they believe that this sort of thing is an essential for America in the 21st century. In fact, they wrote a number of papers at the end of the 20th century

basically laying out this premise. Does Blinken, you know, do Blinken and his colleagues, whether they're the Western European globalists or his colleagues that work for him in the White House and in the State Department, still hope to remove Putin from power? Because that seems almost impossible at this point. Yeah, I think that's kind of a subsets. Essentially, they the uh game plan for what happened in ukraine where essentially they removed a prime minister uh that was uh leaning pro-russian and uh replaced them with uh several uh in succession several leaders in succession uh that uh are pro-Western. So they figured, hey, it worked once, it could work again.

Let's make Putin's life and the lives of the Russian people so miserable that they throw this guy out. I think that is at the back of their heads. Doesn't seem to be working to me. It seems like the sanctions are hurting American multinational industries more than they're hurting the average Russian in the street. And if they do hurt the average Russian in the street, those people do not have, even in large numbers, the ability to affect President Putin's tenure

in office, do they? No, they don't. I mean, he basically, he's guaranteed a term of office that goes on indefinitely. You know, you can quibble about their politics, but the fact is we Americans have a big problem in terms of introspection, you know, to be able to look at what we're doing that's causing all these problems. And we would not have an energy crisis. We would not have the inflation that's running away. We would not have a lot of American industries in trouble if we hadn't let this go the way it's gone. What would be going through Joe Biden's mind that he would cause the American people to be subjected to the financial crises called inflation that we're all going through in return for a fruitless, useless, winless war. Well, you summed it up.

I can't imagine what could be possibly going through his mind or even Blinken's or any of them in terms of how do you justify this? I wrote an article, I think about three weeks ago, where I said nobody is asking the important questions here. I mean, important questions are, why are we doing this? What benefit does this give to the American people, which is why we elect the president in the first place? I have an article coming up next week where I'm saying, essentially, nobody voted for Joe Biden in expectation that he would crank up a nuclear war.

But yet, that's what he's doing. Where do you see this going, Phil? February, March, April, May, June, July, six months in. The Russians have the territory that they want. The president of Ukraine has just fired his chief prosecutor and his head of intelligence. I don't know what that's about, but it can't be a good sign. And the first team, the Russian first team, is back in Moscow relaxing or preparing for some sort of something, but they're not doing the everyday fighting

anymore. Where and how and when does this end? Well, I think most of the people like myself are looking at this situation where we're approaching an end strategy, which is going to be dominated by Russian viewpoints on this. They've won the war. And I think it's Russia has no intention of occupying Kiev or anything else. If they'd wanted to do that, they would have done it already. And there will be some kind of negotiated arrangement that will attempt to save face both in Ukraine and in Russia and get the economic sanctions removed so that everybody can get kind of back to normal. Ukraine would have to be neutral. It would have to be neither pro-West nor pro-Russian because President Putin could never tolerate an independent pro-West EU member,

NATO member, Ukraine on his borders with the attitude that the Ukrainian people have towards the Russians today. Couldn't tolerate it. Yeah, I mean, there might be some kind of middle ground, you know, an associate membership in the European Union, which you would combine with being demilitarized, basically. I mean, there are kinds of ways to dance around this, and the dancing should have started at the beginning of this year, and they would have found ways, but that was never on the U.S. agenda, unfortunately. They made it very clear they were not willing to negotiate national security issues that are perceived by the Russians.

So that's how we wound up where we are. And my fear is that this is a situation that if Biden gets even more stupid, this could slip out of control. And you have danger of things like false flag, where someone who is a party in this, maybe some friendly neocon associates, work out some kind of arrangement where they might even want to kill some American soldiers in civilian clothes. You know, there are a lot of ways maybe to make this war, such as it is, escalate. And that's what I'm afraid of. Wow. Before we go, I just want to remind everybody watching this

that you and I, along with our colleagues Scott Ritter and Gerald Salenti, will be at Gerald's garden party, so to speak. It holds four, five, six hundred people in Kingston, New York, this Saturday, July 23rd at two o'clock in the afternoon to talk about peace and freedom and why war is the health of the state, even though it's the enemy of individual freedom.

And I can't wait to be with you, Phil, and very much look forward to it. Thank you for joining us today. I'll see you Saturday. Okay, thank you very much. Judge Napolitano for judging freedom.