Judging Freedom - Phil Giraldi: Donald and Bibi: Who Will Have the Free Hand?

Episode Date: November 13, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Thank you. Hi, everyone. Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom. Today is Wednesday, November 13th, 2024. Phil Giraldi joins us now. Phil, thank you very much for coming on the show. Thank you especially for accommodating my schedule today. I originally wanted to talk to you, and the title we gave for this subject was Donald and Bibi, Who Has the Upper Hand?, and we'll get to that. But the breaking news in the interim having to do with people that the president-elect intends to nominate to very significant offices once he is sworn in has obviously captured the interest of most of our viewers and of you and me and our colleagues. I do want to start with this so-called football, really soccer, riot in Amsterdam. According to Max Blumenthal, the Mossad drove or flew and escorted about 100 Israeli soccer hooligans and protected them as they rampaged through the streets and taunted fans from the other side. Some of them injured people, many of them damaged property.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Ten of them were arrested. The Mossad got all of them sprung and they're all safely home. You wouldn't know any of that from reading the Western media. The Western media referred to it as an anti-Semitic race riot. The New York Times actually apologized for that. Does any of this surprise you, my dear friend? No, obviously this was something that was a bit of a setup. You might even refer to it as a false flag, since essentially it's to put the blame on someone who was not responsible for what happened and make the other side, in this case the Israeli provocateurs, look like the victims as usual. And I think there's a lot of timing in this. This is a very useful tool for the
Starting point is 00:02:47 administration, the incoming administration of Donald Trump, the current administration of Biden. And it's, of course, being orchestrated by Benjamin Netanyahu. The idea is to, again, make Israel look like the victim and to set the stage for in trump's case uh pretty much pulling together a cabinet and senior official team that is either um already totally sympathetic to israel and israel's interests rather than to u.. interests, or to have people who are leaning in their direction. And that, I think, is what we're seeing. So it has a motive. Israeli media is reporting exactly what you said,
Starting point is 00:03:36 that Mossad was involved directing this, and the whole thing has its roots in politics. Don't the Israelis, doesn't the Israeli public see through this? Don't they see Netanyahu's trickery, chicanery, lies and deceptions? Sure they do. But the fact is that they believe in this case, the end justifies the result. And as a result of the trick, innocent people in Amsterdam were injured. Property was damaged.
Starting point is 00:04:44 The government fell in line. They were either duped or they're part of the chicanery and nobody paid a price. Oh, there are some people in Amsterdam who live there who were arrested for having the temerity to resist these hooligans. Moving on, I can only imagine what your thoughts were when the Trump transition announced the appointment of Elise Stefanik as the U.S. ambassador to the U.N. She is probably, and this is going some, the most committed Zionist in the House of Representatives as we speak. I think that's absolutely correct. She led the witch hunt for anti-Semites at American universities, which have done so much to shut down free speech in the entire university system in this country. This is disgraceful. It's disgusting.
Starting point is 00:05:47 The fact that this woman is going to the UN, this is a replay of Nikki Haley, only 10 times worse. I think it's outrageous. I think it's disgusting. I would love to see Congress refuse to approve her appointment, but of course, Congress is in bed with her completely. This is a revolting development, almost as revolting as several other appointments coming up, State Department and Department of Defense. Right. We'll get to those in a moment. fanciful to expect that some members of the, I don't know what committee it is, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, would grill her on her overt attacks on the freedom of speech by the manner in which she interrogated the college presidents, two or three of whom, within days of her interrogation, stop Chris, my dog Chris,
Starting point is 00:06:47 not the producer Chris, resigned. Well, I mean, she openly accused these college presidents for being anti-Semites, for allowing students and faculty members at the various universities to peacefully criticize Israeli behavior in Gaza and in a broader way in the Middle East in places like Lebanon, Syria, and elsewhere. And she called them anti-Semites. And you have other cabinet people that have been promoted that have been playing the anti-Semite card in their various constituencies. So this seems to be a pattern among the people that Trump or whoever is advising him are pulling together. Before we get into the specifics, we have Stefanik, Huckabee, Rubio, and Hegseth. Do you see a pattern, Phil Giraldi? Yeah, I mean, they're all committed Zionists.
Starting point is 00:07:53 They all basically follow a hardline foreign policy viewpoint where China is focused by, again, many of these prospective candidates for these positions. So I suspect there is a pattern. And whoever is pulling the strings here, maybe one might be looking at things like $100 million donations to the Donald Trump campaign by an Israeli. There are certainly things going on that are making these things happen. And again, I repeat, what's so outrageous about all this is the fact that we expect, or we should expect, that our senior government officials behave modestly in terms of what their
Starting point is 00:08:42 own views are and what they should be looking at, which is the interests of the United States and what should be done to better the status quo of American citizens and of American businesses and of our other interests overseas. And yet these views are being abandoned, and we're getting these people who are sort of in the playground, and somebody's unleashed them, or somebody will unleash them. So I hate to see how this is going to play out. So, I mean, I've known Mike Huckabee and Pete Hegseth for a long time.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I've known Mike for about 15 years. He worked at Fox for a number of years, and I've known Pete for about eight or nine years also from Fox. But to Huckabee first, Huckabee, who of course is not Jewish, is a Christian nationalist who, like the Speaker of the House of Representatives, if it were up to him, would make some form of Protestantism the official mandatory religion of the United States. Mike is also a super, super committed Zionist. Chris, our Chris, put together a montage of some of Huckabee's statements. This, I love you, Phil, but this will raise your blood pressure. Cut number 11. Basically, I had to be careful
Starting point is 00:10:08 in saying this. There's really no such thing as a Palestinian. There's no such thing as a Persian. There's such a complexity in that. There's really no such thing. That's been a political tool to try to force land away
Starting point is 00:10:24 from Israel. The two-state solution, if we mean two governments holding the same piece of real estate, is irrational and unworkable. If there is a two-state solution, the Palestinian state needs to be outside the boundaries of the nation of Israel. There's plenty of land in the world that we could find a place and say, okay, let's create a Palestinian state. There are certain words I refuse to use. There is no such thing as a West Bank. It's Judea and Samaria. There's no such thing as a settlement. They're communities, they're neighborhoods, they're cities. There's no such thing as an occupation. Well, last one is the one that particularly gulls me because many of the retired IDF generals who commanded IDF troops there referred to it as an occupation.
Starting point is 00:11:13 The UN refers to it as an occupation. International law refers to it as an occupation. I'll let you take it from there, Phil. Well, I mean, obviously those statements are revolting and they're inaccurate. He knows nothing about the history of what was referred to as Palestine, which goes back for many, many centuries. And Palestine was a region of it was governed out of Syria by the Ottomans out of Damascus. But the fact is, it was referred to as Palestine. And I have maps here in my house that date from the 18th century that show Palestine. So I guess the people living there were not
Starting point is 00:11:52 Palestinians. There were some interlopers who had been there for more than a thousand years, but that wasn't good enough for a guy like Huckabee. The thing that gets me about this a-hole is occasionally on the internet, radio and television, he appears with these ads hustling money for Holocaust survivors. I mean, this is another one of his favorite games about the Holocaust and about these survivors. They must all be 100 and something years old by now. And he's constantly hustling on behalf of Christian and Jewish organizations for money. This guy, there is no low point that this guy will not sink to. So you know what can be expected from him as ambassador. I guess he hopes to be the conduit between Netanyahu and Trump. But before we get to Netanyahu and Trump, how sick to your stomach were you when you read that
Starting point is 00:12:55 the next Secretary of State is likely to be, I don't know if this was a trial balloon, if it was, it didn't go over very well, or a legitimate leak of an actual plan, that the next Secretary of State would be the neocon Zionist, according to Anya Parampil, terrorist because of what he has caused to be funded and done in Latin America, Marco Rubio. Yeah, Rubio, again, is about as low as you're going to get. This is a guy whose policies are based on things like family history, that he comes from Cuba, and now he wants to get rid of the Cuban government and will do whatever he can to do that, including going after supporters of Cuba or people who feel Cuba should
Starting point is 00:13:45 be treated like any other country, like Venezuela. So he's been behind efforts to support what we would consider terrorist groups in those countries to basically destabilize them and bring about the solution that he wants. We need that as a Secretary of State. And if you've ever heard him speak, he can hardly put two sentences together. It's just so awful. I had thought that Donald Trump would have learned something from his first tour, basically, that he should have been looking for people who were not ideologues, but people who had good common sense and enough experience to be able to work in the context of these very complicated bureaucracies that they're being placed at the top of. Apparently, he doesn't seem to have learned that. Before we get to Pete Hegseth, I want to play you a clip from the finance minister of the Israeli government who proclaimed himself the governor general of the West Bank.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Of course, they don't call he doesn't call it the West Bank. But here he's saying basically, since Trump has now been elected, now's the time to make this annexation legal. Cut number nine, Chris. I have instructed the settlement division in the Ministry of Defense and the civil administration to begin professional and comprehensive work to prepare the necessary infrastructure for applying sovereignty. In his first term, President Trump led dramatic steps, including affirming the legality and legitimacy of settlements in Judea and Samaria. Alongside this, there were the Abraham Accords, peace for peace. Those accords, a set of agreements facilitated by Trump's first administration,
Starting point is 00:15:37 saw Israel normalize relations with four Arab nations. We were on the verge of applying sovereignty over the settlements in Judea and Samaria, and now the time has come to do so. Prime Minister Netanyahu, apparently not on tape, but to a newspaper reporter, according to Haaretz, endorsed what Finance Minister Smotrich just said. The other two news items on Netanyahu is a panel of three judges has been appointed by the International Criminal Court to decide whether or not to issue an arrest warrant for Netanyahu, an arrest warrant that was requested almost a year ago by the prosecutors. And I didn't know this, Phil, Netanyahu's, one of his three corruption trials is resuming the first week in December with his apparently, we don't have this here, compelled testimony. All of this at the time that Smotrich wants to use the machinery of government to steal this land. He has the blessing
Starting point is 00:16:48 of the new U.S. ambassador, which probably means he has the blessing of the new U.S. president. I would think that's a given. And I think he has the blessing of Joe Biden. There is nothing that Israel cannot do that anyone at the top of our government will say boo about. They promised 30 days ago that if Israel continued to starve the Palestinians, the United States would take action to limit the weapons that are being provided and the money. And now what's happened? They've decided that, no, they're not going to bother to do that. That's Joe Biden.
Starting point is 00:17:30 So this for the Americans like us who would like to see peace and good relations with the rest of the world instead of 800 bases overseas and a $1 trillion defense budget, are stuck with an imperial agenda that is making us hated as a nation throughout the world. This is a disgrace, and it comes squarely onto the shoulders of people like Donald Trump, Joe Biden, and all the other people who are within the government enabling this process. I think it's time for the people to rise up. And, you know, we've got to start saying this is no longer acceptable. You and I have libertarian and progressive friends who voted for Trump because they believed he'd be an anti-war candidate. If you look at these names, Stefano Kuckabee, Rubio Hegseth, we haven't even gotten to Hegseth yet. It's clear that these are all pro-war people.
Starting point is 00:18:40 They're uber Zionists. They want to give Netanyahu whatever he wants. Here is Pete Hegseth on the show that he hosted, which, footnote, I once hosted a long time ago, called Fox and Friends. At the very end of this clip, which is a little under a minute, he calls for bombing cultural sites in Tehran. Chris, cut number 12. Sometimes you have moments, Stephen. I happen to believe that we can't kick the can down the road any longer in trying to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear bomb. They use the killing of Soleimani as an excuse to say we're scrapping the Iran deal. We all know they were scrapping it anyway.
Starting point is 00:19:29 So what better time than now to say we're starting the clock. You've got a week. You've got X amount of time before we start taking out your energy production facilities. We take out key infrastructure. We take out your missile sites. We take out nuclear developments. We take out port capabilities. Or, you know, take out a Quds headquarters while you're at it if you want. I understand that's not a popular idea. If we're going to fight to prevent Iran from getting a or you know what take out a kud's headquarters uh while you're at it if you want i understand that's not a popular idea if we're going to fight to prevent iran from getting a nuclear bomb this regime then we need to rewrite the rules that are advantageous to us i don't want to hit cultural sites on purpose but if you're using one to harbor your most dangerous weapons then that should be on the target list rewrite the rules so they uh favor us gee i I wonder what Vladimir Putin would do if the United States
Starting point is 00:20:08 purported to bomb Tehran, Secretary Hegseth. What do you think, Phil? Well, I think Vladimir Putin would actually act in terms of his own national interests and might feel that that is a non-productive direction to be going in. I would point out that this Hexeth is crazier even than he just came across as. I've been informed by a good friend who's followed his career rather closely that he's not only a rather extremist Christian in many respects, he's also what was referred to as a third temple person. Now, these are the Christians who basically want to destroy the Muslim Al-Aqsa Mosque
Starting point is 00:20:56 in Jerusalem and replace it with a third Jewish temple. And this, of course, would, in their minds, would lead to the Armageddon that would lead to the end of the world. And we would all either go up to heaven or somewhere else. So this is how crazy these people are. And to be talking about these people as potential secretaries of defense with all those weapons and all those tools at their fingertips. This is obscene. This is so bad. You know, who could imagine that a guy like this would be considered for secretary of defense? One more clip from him, and then we'll play the reaction of some folks. This is Pete Hegseth talking about women in combat. Number 13, Chris. I think a huge one is women in combat in quotas.
Starting point is 00:21:54 I think the way they pushed that under Obama in a way that had nothing, zero to do with efficacy, zero to do with lethality and capability. You don't like women in combat? No. Why not? I love women service members who contribute amazingly because everything about men and women serving together makes the situation more complicated. And complication in combat means casualties are worse. Is there a basis for that or is this just his cultural conservatism?
Starting point is 00:22:35 Well, I think there's a certain basis for it. And that women obviously in certain combat roles have certain physical liabilities like upper body strength and things like that. But to make an across-the-board condemnation of this, I think the experiment of women in many Department of Defense roles has been very positive. What do you think is the big picture here with Donald Trump appointing these neocons, warmongers, and Zionists to these sensitive positions? I something going on here that we don't know about? Is he a secret neocon who really likes war because he likes to kill people like he killed General Soleimani who was on a peace mission? Well, he certainly believes he has the license to kill, just as Mr. Netanyahu does. And that's a very dangerous thing. The president does not have a license to kill. But you know, this is all scary stuff. You know what really scares me? Is the fact that we are enabling someone who is plausibly insane in the form of Netanyahu to do whatever he needs to get away with his own personal needs and also for the advancement of Israel as the sole major military power in the Mideast
Starting point is 00:24:28 region. And I am very afraid that this clown, this idiot, would use nuclear weapons if he felt it was a good idea on Iran, on Syria, on Lebanon. And we'd get people like these gentlemen that we're just talking about, who would endorse it, would say, oh, it's perfectly all right. They were being threatened by an Iran that has the capability of building its own nuclear weapons. We would hear that kind of thing. And that's when my head explodes. Who will have the upper hand, Trump or Netanyahu? Or stated differently, is there a reason for Netanyahu's bounce in his step? Does he now believe he'll get whatever he wants from the U.S. government under Donald Trump? Well, he obviously believes that because people are telling him that. And I would suspect that those are the people in the Israel lobby in the United States, and as well as that, people like Miriam Eggleston, who gave him $100 million to basically allow her country, Israel, to take over all of historic Palestine.
Starting point is 00:25:48 So we have all these kind of influences working on Trump, who admittedly is not a very well-educated or bright man. He's driven by ego. He's driven by compulsions. And this makes him happy to think that he's so loved by all these sorts of people. He once proclaimed himself, I think you wrote about this in your column at the UN's review, and this might actually be true, that he's the most popular politician in Israel. Yeah, he said he could get elected to high office in Israel instantly because he's so popular. I guess he forgot that he's not Jewish and therefore he's not eligible for the office.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Well, I did say he's not intelligent. Thank you, Phil. Always a pleasure. I appreciate you moving your usual time to accommodate my needs. No matter what we talk about, it's a pleasure to hear you and be able to pick your brain. All the best, my dear friend. Okay. Well, have a good debate today. Oh, thank you. Thank you. All right. Bye. Bye. Phil is not talking about the debate on Monday evening on Zero Hedge, where I'm moderating a debate between our friend Max Blumenthal and someone else. He's talking about a debate I'm moderating tonight in New York City. It's the finals of the college debate championship for the season between a team from Columbia University and a team from West Point.
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