Judging Freedom - Phil Giraldi : How Deep is DC Support for Israel?

Episode Date: May 29, 2024

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I got to read what one of the writers said. Hi, everyone. I hope we can see cute Rupert today. Some cute reprieve from all the war crimes we are witnessing. He's somewhere behind you. And before I start, I want to self-correct. Today is Wednesday, May 29th. It is not the 30th. I'm still thinking it's sort of a crazy week because we all had Monday off. But Phil, welcome here, my dear friends. We'll get right to it. 45 civilians incinerated in a refugee camp.

Israel claiming it was a tragic accident, but oh, they wanted to kill Hamas leaders there. Even a high school student knows that Hamas leaders don't hang out under tents. They hang out 70 meters below the surface of the earth. What do you make of this latest travesty? Well, it's obviously, well, first of all, what Israel is telling us, as is always the case, is a lie. Essentially the the weapon did not misfire didn't their cover story is that um they were going at a target which was uh away some distance from where these people were camped out in their tents and that uh it was uh some terrible accident probably caused by a Hamas weapons storage located in that area. So this is completely a fabricated excuse for what happened. The weapons that were used were, of course, provided by Joe Biden and the United States.

This has been verified even, I might add by the new york times so this is uh how the story is unraveling uh as to who the two hamas officials that they claimed they were targeting to kill were and whether they were killed uh remains a mystery and it probably will always remain a mystery the white house meanwhile is saying gee we're not going to blame israel for any of this and they will do a thorough investigation now that's the biggest lie of all israel has never investigated itself for anything and uh it's uh precisely this kind of nonsense coming out of the White House that enables to get away with that. I mean, it is hard to believe that anybody, whether it's the NYPD or the FBI, can investigate themselves, can investigate their own.

But what is Israel's track record in investigating itself? Can I hear you say whitewash? Yeah, I would say that the track record for Israel, certainly recently, is zero. You cannot cite a specific instance where they've gone into, shall we say, a sensitive issue like this attack in Rafah and come up with anything even similar to an investigation. Even when Israeli soldiers and policemen kill Palestinians, the investigation hardly ever takes place as to what happened to bring about a murder.

And they usually, if they do anything at all, it's very perfunctory, and nobody is ever punished. And, of course, we have instances like the USS Liberty, in which 37 Americans were killed. Where was the investigation for that? And we've had that Palestinian-American journalist who was killed last year uh and you know the list goes on they kill Americans the U.S Embassy does nothing and Israel does nothing um Secretary Blinken claimed we may actually have this this, Chris, I'm not sure, but Blinken claimed that United States policy does not favor Israel, but treats all countries equally. I mean, this, okay, we don't have it.

He did say it. I read it in print several times in several sources. This is really preposterous, is it not? I mean, he shows up in Israel and says says I come here as a Jew uh we normally give Israel 10 billion a year right off the top for nothing in return uh this year we gave them another 20 so it's 30 billion how could he possibly say we treat all countries the same yeah well he said it twice at both times were in uh in press conferences where he was actually pressed by a journalist asking him, how can you say this? And of course, he insisted that that was the case, that we treat everyone the same. And of course, the evidence is used that we don't. The inner circle of U.S. foreign policy collaboration would be the Five Eyes, which are the countries that came out

of the Second World War, mostly English-speaking, that collaborated with the U.S. during the war and continued these relationships afterwards. It would be Canada, it would be Britain, it would be Australia, it would bealand uh those those kinds of countries and uh but outside that the united states has this ridiculous non uh non-spelled out in any kind of way relationship with israel which has uh john meers, Professor Mearsheimer, said last week, he said, hey, the explanation for all this is not the externals, what the loyalties or what the needs of the various countries are. It's basically that the United States has an overwhelmingly powerful Israel lobby, which calls all the shots on this.

Do you think that officials in the American government, whether it's Joe Biden, Tony Blinken, Sullivan, Jake Sullivan, or even Admiral Kirby, fear the Israeli lobby in the U.S.? I think the fear is what the Israeli lobby can do in a political sense if they are defied by these government officials. And I'll spell out what I mean by that. Here we have Joe Biden, who for some reason or another thinks he's qualified to become president again in november and he's desperate to make this happen and he knows there are a lot of levers that the israelis can can pull that will make that not happen and i'm thinking specifically in terms of uh the fact that the uh most most of the money from political donations that go into the Democratic Party come from Jewish sources who are very sensitive to what is going on with Israel. And also the Jewish ability to dominate much of the media and nearly all of the entertainment industry and get those messages

across is another factor. So I think they've got the politicians scared, and the politicians who play ball also benefit to a large extent by this money coming in and other benefits that they accrue to afterwards after they're out of office. I want to ask you a question that admits of extremes. Does Joe Biden have more control over Bibi Netanyahu, or does Bibi Netanyahu have more control over Joe Biden. Who controls the other more? At this point in time, eight months into the Gaza war, 40,000 to 45,000 innocents slaughtered, $20 billion American dollars in cash or in equipment and ammunition in Israel are on its way. Well, I think the evidence would have to be that Netanyahu has the control of the relationship. Here we had Joe Biden at one point getting nervous about

progressives in the Democratic Party who were getting upset about what was going on in Gaza and how many people were getting killed and we being complicit in it and he got a little nervous about that so he said to uh netanyahu oh well uh you know we advise you strongly not to go into uh rafa this would be a red line for us i don't know if we could uh be there to help you and so what happens? Netanyahu the very next day said, basically, go to hell. And what's going on right now? The Israeli tanks are moving into Rafah. They've been bombing Rafah for weeks now.

And this killing of the 45 and 21 more last night, I might add, has been an ongoing process. And Joe Biden hasn't said anything or done anything. I guess the red line was not a red line. There's no real red line at all. I mean, we have, what's his name, Blinken saying there are no red lines with respect to Israel, but I thought Joe had a red line with respect to what can be dropped on Rafah. I mean, tanks are okay, missiles are okay, artillery is okay, but the red line must mean no troops on the ground. Yeah, because troops on the ground yeah because troops on the ground mean much higher casualty levels as they come in with guns blazing uh you know but the issue is is here that uh biden was basically

talking like he actually was concerned about israel taking some measures that would reduce the casualty levels and of course israel hasn't done that and he hasn't done anything about it to push back wow permission. Do not the occupied have an international right, a legal right, and a moral right to use force to repel the occupier? Yeah, I think in legal parlance, they have the right to use force to resist. And resistance, obviously, in this case, where they're basically penned up in what amounts to open air concentration camp with borders and barriers on all sides, means having to break out. And so, yeah, this is an established principle of international law. So, could one argue that October 7th was an act of resistance

and the original target was military? One could argue that. Of course, the Israelis would counter saying, well, we don't know that. But I mean, my own theory has since the beginning been that this was in a sense a false flag, that Netanyahu and whoever is close to him knew this was coming. They were warned by the Russians. They were warned by the Egyptians. They were warned by the United States. They had their own observers, spies, inside Gaza watching the training going on. And they had these highly sophisticated electronic fences surrounding the whole thing that somebody, an Israeli senior minister, said yesterday, not even a fox, or I think maybe it was a rabbit, could get through those fences. And so they had all these things going for them. And many of the casualties, as it turned out, you are correct, were military personnel. And

many of the casualties, as we now know, although the media in the U.S. doesn't seem to have picked up on it, were killed by the Israeli counterattack using attack helicopters and killing everyone they saw on the ground. Including their own soldiers, male and female, and their own civilians, young and old. Yes. and female and their own civilians young and old yes so the uh the the who killed whom is still uh somewhat of a question but there it is certainly true that there was killing coming from both sides and the israelis might very well have killed more israelis than than hamas did is israel i know you addressed this in your recent piece, Phil, but I want to give you a chance to expound upon it. Is Israel an ally of the United States? Is it a valued ally of the United States? Is it our closest ally, as Brian Mast and some of the other super conservative Republicans in the House have claimed.

We'll talk about Congressman Mast in a minute. He has his own unique way of dressing when he appears on the floor of the House. Yeah, well, I mean, the fact is that Israel is not an ally. See, an ally is a legal status. It's where the two countries sign a paper, and they basically explain in that paper what are the various issues that the two countries will come to each other's help,

what situations would demand that, and they have to basically spell that out in considerable detail. We have no arrangement with Israel like that. Israel, in fact, would be unable to sign an alliance because Israel has no border. It has been moving its border ever since the state was founded, and particularly so after 1967. And so without a border, it's hard to say, well, hell, who has crossed our border or who has done this? Israel has never indicated any willingness to enter into a reciprocity arrangement with the U.S. around what is agreed to be the common interests. So, no, Israel is not an ally. That's a fact. Is Israel a democracy?

Well, Israel is not a democracy either, unless you define a democracy as Israel does legally as a state where Jews have particular rights that other groups, defined by religion or by origin or that sort of thing, those other groups do not have uh so this is a this is the apartheid issue that makes israel uh not a democracy in any real sense an arab cannot go in and buy a house in a a jew what is determined to be a jewish uh quarter and uh the arab can have his house taken away and given to a new jewish family that just came from brooklyn uh because he has he has secondary rights talking about coming from brooklyn how many americans are fighting in the idf do we have any idea what that number is well the number that came out last week when they were arguing about special rights that normally are only accrued to American soldiers serving in the U.S. Armed Forces to give these same rights to Americans who were fighting for the Israeli army, the number that came out with is, I think, 23,000.

I was shocked to see that number, Phil, 23,000. I thought it would be about 2,300. But the proposal, I don't think this is passed yet by some conservative Republicans, is to accord the same benefits to Americans who fight in the Israeli army as those who fight in the U.S. army. These type of benefits are you can't be evicted from your house because you haven't paid your rent. Your house can't go into foreclosure because you haven't paid the mortgage. Things you would expect the federal government to protect Americans who are fighting for the United States. But I've never heard of the government according those benefits to Americans who are fighting for the United States, but I've never heard of the government according those benefits

to Americans who are fighting for another country. Have you? No. And I think, I rather suspect it's unique. And I rather suspect it's also illegal if anybody ever challenges this. How the hell do you come up with this formula? I mean, these people are, in many cases, people who were born in the United States. So they're nominally U.S. citizens who have never bothered to give up their U.S. citizenship. And they also are dual nationals. They are Israeli citizens. They carry Israeli passports. So this is a bizarre situation. It could only happen here, and it could only happen in reference to Israel. This couldn't happen anywhere else. Chris, can you put up a picture of Congressman Mast?

So this is Congressman Brian Mast. Now, he has lost both legs below their knees, his knees, for fighting in the U.S. military. I'm not sure if it's Afghanistan i'm not sure he regularly wears the israeli military uniform he's not a member of the u.s military but he regularly wears his israeli u.s an israeli military uniform on the floor of the house of representatives i've never heard of that before have you no i never have either and again uh he also when the first time he wore it he was confronted by a journalist I think in the hallway or something and he he said uh uh uh something to the effect of I love Israel and will do everything for it now this is a congressman of the United States of America representing Florida not surprisingly since we have Ron DeSantis down there uh and uh coming out with this kind of

nonsense and he's not being impeached uh I've never heard of anything like this uh Chris has just gotten a clip of Admiral Kirby I'm not sure I seen it, so I don't know if he's just expounding or if he's arguing with one of the reporters, but it has to do with the red lines. Between what's happened on Sunday, what's happened in terms of the ongoing ground operations since, there's nothing that you have seen thus far that would prompt a U.S. withdrawal of more military assistance. I believe that's what I've been saying here. As soon as we saw these reports over the weekend about the strike,

we reached out to the Israeli Defense Forces at various levels to gather more information, and we've been actively... Thanks, Admiral. On the death of those World Central Kitchen Aid workers, which includes one American who was killed, Netanyahu's reaction was, quote, it happens in war. What is your reaction to that comment from Netanyahu? I don't think it'd be useful for me to get into a tit-for-tat here with the Prime Minister of Israel from the podium.

How can you take Netanyahu at his word? As Nancy was saying, this was a deconflicted zone. They had marked their car. They had even coordinated their movements with the IDF. Yeah, and as I said in my opening statement, obviously, setting aside this incident, because this isn't the first one. There are issues of de-confliction that clearly need to be fleshed out and improved. So how can the U.S. continue to send aid to Israel

without any conditions? Yes, they have a right to. We're not sending aid to Israel. We're sending aid into Gaza, and that's... Weapons. How can the U.S. continue to send military aid to Israel without any conditions? Is there no red line? You know, we've had this discussion, you and me, quite a bit from up here. These are verbal urgings, verbal commitments. There's no other incentive besides the urgency of the discussion.

I know. You want us to you want us to hang some sort of condition over their neck and what i'm telling you is that we continue to to to work with the israelis to make sure that they are as precise as keep as they can be and that more aids getting in and we're going to continue to take that approach did anybody believe any of that phil well to me the big joke is the aid part because uh first of all that that pontoon bridge which they built at great expense has apparently come apart uh that was one thing and it didn't produce any aid anyway and the israelis have been holding up the aid

not allowing it to to be taken in and distributed. And Israeli settlers are attacking the trucks even before they get to the border entry point and dumping the food and destroying it. So, you know, it's just wonderful what the Israelis are doing to increase the shipments of aid, which, according to this clown, was a demand by or an insistence by the U.S. government, by the president and whoever else they talked to. I don't know. Where was Kirby an admiral?

I really find it hard to believe. Yeah, I'm not sure what his military career consisted of. They do call him admiral. And quite frankly, the first time I met him, I was at Fox and he was there in an admiral's uniform. So I'm going to assume that he was an admiral, but he's attempting to defend the indefensible and he's not doing so very credibly at all. Phil Giraldi, always a pleasure, my dear friend. Thank you very much for joining us no matter what we're talking about. Thanks for bringing the dog and for bringing the cat.

Thank you. Okay. We'll see you again soon. All the best. Okay. Bye-bye. Bye. Coming up, I'm on verdict watch because as we speak now, now is 3.36 Wednesday afternoon. The Donald Trump criminal trial jury is deliberating. So I'm on that verdict watch. But our next regularly scheduled Judging Freedom is at 4.15 Eastern this afternoon with my dear friend Aaron Matei.

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