Judging Freedom - Phil Giraldi: US/Israel Connected by Lies and Bloodshed.

Episode Date: October 28, 2024

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Thank you. Hi everyone, Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom. Today is Monday, October 28, 2024. Phil Giraldi is here. On what is it that binds Israel and the United States? Might it be lies and bloodshed? Right after this. A divisive presidential election is upon us, and the winner is gold. Let me tell you what I mean.

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the statutes that prohibit American aid to countries that commit genocide or have nuclear weapons that they refuse to permit to be subject to international regulatory authorities? Well, the answer to both of those queries is yes, there is a difference in that the United States has chosen not to enforce its own laws. And basically, Israel has a unique status with the United States government and with the media as well. country that has a secret nuclear program or has such an intent and will not sign the non-proliferation agreement cannot get United States aid or weapons. And it says it flatly. And then there's the Lehigh laws, which basically say the same thing, but on the issue of human rights. The Lehigh laws basically say that if the United States

is selling or giving weapons to a foreign country, it has to do a due diligence, where it has to go through that country's record in the use of the weapons. And if the weapons are being used for human rights violations, as we are seeing Israel been doing for the past year and before that, then the United States is prohibited from providing these weapons or providing assistance, which has the same intent. So this is, the United States has willfully in Congress and the White House decided that Israel has unique status, which means that what other countries are obliged to do in their relationships with the U.S. did not apply to Israel. All right, just to be clear,

the exception for Israel is in the enforcement. It's not in the written statute. There's no except for Israel in the statute. These statutes, which are named after the U.S. senators who introduced them, were intended to apply to the whole world. I wonder what they thought of Israel at the time they wrote them. The Simonton's no longer around. Leahy is, although he's not in the Senate anymore. This is really the decision of the State Department not to do its job because the Secretary of State took an oath to enforce the laws and he's not doing so. Well, the interesting aspect of that is it's not the State Department not doing its job

because I heard a speaker last week who had resigned from State Department because he was the guy that had the job of vetting these countries that were getting U.S. weapons. And he resigned because of the way Israel was getting an exemption. And he described how the whole thing works. He says, you know, Israel calls the Pentagon or the State Department and says, we want these weapons and uh four hours later the you the uh israeli embassy in washington follows up on the call it says hey what's the delay here at the white house or uh the secretary of state then immediately call the uh suppliers and uh it closed the deal so this is as crooked as can be it's all all done to protect Israel. I don't say that.

I mean, it's basically to cover up for Israel's crimes. And this stuff is going on where the energy department, for example, has a mandate that it will fire any of their employees who ever mentioned that Israel has a nuclear program. And across the government, in Congress and in the White House, there is also a well-known rule, never been written down as far as I know, that says that nobody in the government will ever confirm that Israel has nuclear weapons. Is there any law affecting aid to a country that has attacked the United States and murdered its naval personnel? Only in the case of Israel, as far as I know. By Israel, of course, there was a massive cover-up engineered by President Lyndon B. Johnson and McNamara, who was the Secretary of Defense at that time, when the USS Liberty was attacked in international waters by Israel,

killing 34 sailors and injuring over 170 more. Their intent was to sink the ship because the ship was an intelligence vessel that was monitoring the war that was going on at that time between Israel, Egypt, and Syria. So it was, you know, basically you can kill Americans. More recently, you could kill American journalists and you can kill anyone. And if it's Israel doing the killing, hey, too bad. Why doesn't Israel go through the vetting process? And of what does the vetting process consist, if you know? The vetting process consists of what are generally regarded as crimes against humanity, war crimes, and genocide. And we're seeing all of that play out in the past year, very specifically in the case of Israel.

And international courts, the ICC, for example, have verified the information and and the the interesting thing about this guy who resigned uh his name is uh josh paul he basically uh had the same information that the state department of washington at other levels and echelons had to demonstrate that this is exactly what israel was doing uh and uh even uh even our uh benightighted president of the United States basically has raised the issue of how Israel is starving the people in Palestine, which is, I'm sorry, in Gaza, which is the ultimate war crime. When you were in the CIA, was it generally known, understood, discussed, winked and nodded that Israel had nuclear weapons? Oh, absolutely. It was widely known and widely referred to at certain levels. This is unfortunately the way the federal government operates.

People down at the top of these systems become more and more political. That's why our Secretary of State can pick up the phone and call up his counterpart at the Pentagon or at Lockheed Martin and tell them to start shipping the equipment to Israel in spite of the fact that Israel has not been vetted. How does it actually work? Does the U.S. government pay the bill at Lockheed Martin, or do the Israelis pay the bill and the U.S. government reimburses them? How does this actually work? How it actually works in practice is that the U.S. government reimburses them? How does this actually work? How it actually works in practice is that the U.S. government puts the bill.

Thanks to President Obama, Israel gets a check every October 1st, the beginning of the fiscal year, for something in excess of $3 billion. And they use this money to buy weapons. And more recently, of course, with the war going on in Gaza, President Biden has authorized extensive sums of money, approaching $20 billion was the last figure that I saw go out. And so the United States is basically buying the weapons from U.S. manufacturers who are happy to sell them, and they're giving the weapons to Israel. So the money's deposited in Israeli government banks that could be in the U.S. Federal dollars, either taxpayer money or money borrowed in the name of the taxpayers, whoever the feds got their money from.

And that, that money then is used to pay the arms manufacturers. That's basically what it's used for, but it's also used to come back in through the back door to corrupt our political system. Where do you think, well, a lot of the money comes from Israel lobby organizations in the United States, but it's always been suspected

very strongly that a lot of this money is kind of doing a circle dance and it's being filtered back into the system to corrupt our politicians, which I guess we'll be seeing in about eight days. Meaning that some of the money is being used by Israel to make campaign contributions in order to assure the loyalty of those politicians, whether in the executive or the legislative branch. Precisely. Our President Biden is, I believe, currently the sitting government official who has gotten the most money from the Israel lobby. I believe it's something in the tune of $17 million. This is over the course of his 50 or 60 years in politics. Yeah. Right, right. Were you surprised to see in writing the casual reference to the Israeli nuclear program and the top secret documents that were released two weeks ago? Yeah, and again,

this bears out what I was saying before about people at the working level have known this since forever. And the people who prepared those two documents were obviously working level people working on satellite intelligence. And they included that comment, which is kind of interesting. You didn't see the new york times referring to it did you or washington post or the white house uh this again this was a secret uh sort of thing that they don't want to get out they don't want anyone discussing it the people in this country are not allowed to discuss policy. Do we know the type of individual who released this? Was this an official release as governmental policy intended to dial Prime Minister Netanyahu back at least until after election day? Or was this an Edward Snowden type who thought that by releasing this, he might save the country from World War III? Do we know?

No, we don't. We know there's an investigation going on, and they were steering away from looking at a government official who had access through his work to that information. So that leaves a lot of space. But this is top secret password only, and the universe is between 300 and 400 people. The FBI should have their hands on that universe in 48 hours. Yeah, well, apparently they couldn't. I think what they were saying was that they could not trace it to somebody's computer or to somebody's copy machine or to somebody's other form of access that would have left a trace. I think that's what they would have looked at for immediately. And so now they're sort of coming up with other theories. One theory is, of course, that the Iranians might have hacked it and released

it to preempt the Israeli attack. Another theory is that the White House actually could have leaked it to slow up the Israeli plans to attack Iran because the United States doesn't, or put it this way, Biden doesn't want any disruptions to go on between now and election day. He thinks that anything that makes it look like the government is screwing up would rebound badly towards him and towards Kamala. So that is that kind of thinking. And that is also the theory the Israelis might have actually faked this whole thing and sent it out there with wrong information in terms of what their preparations were. So you have a whole lot of theories. Well, forgive me for using a Hillary Clinton phrase, but wasn't the actual attack with air quotes on Friday pretty much a nothing burger? Depends who you talk to.

I was talking to some Iranian journalists, as you know, yesterday, and the issue of that came up. And I said, well, they said, well, you know, the Jerusalem Post said that it was a devastating attack. And I pointed out to them that the Jerusalem Post is very much aligned with Netanyahu, who wants people to think it was a devastating attack. I said, if you had read the left-wing newspaper Haaretz, you would have gotten a different story. And the different story based on satellite pictures and information seems to indicate that it was much

ado about nothing. What became of President Biden's order? I don't even know if it was an order, Phil, or something he said to Netanyahu, but the White House leaked it. You got 30 days to allow humanitarian aid into Gaza. Otherwise, we will consider holding back certain weapon systems. Yeah, that is what he said. But the thing is, the 30 days is the trick, because when he said it, 30 days from then would take it to pass the American election. So in other words, he was sending out an insurance policy to make sure that Netanyahu didn't try to do anything that would embarrass him before the election. So I think that is kind of the trick to it. And by the way, the Israelis have continued continued to stop to blockade food shipments

medicine shipments all humanitarian aid going in and they finally destroyed completely the last working hospital in gaza so the israelis are as usual ignoring anything that Biden says. They set the rules. The Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has called for a coalition of Muslim and Arab countries, I guess, I mean, the language wasn't that precise, to use force on Israel. What is the, in order to stop the genocide and prevent Israel from extending its borders into what are now recognized other countries, internationally recognized countries, what are the chances of that? it has to do to block it uh even if that includes uh going into a a real coalition with israel uh and making that very clear but uh that's that's what i'm afraid of i certainly want israel to stop it uh biden can stop it in the peaceful way by withholding armed shipments completely. Israel will be running out of weapons in about two weeks, is an estimate that I saw, if the U.S. stops supplying them. And, you know, and that would make everybody kind of think of, let's maybe do something different here. But, you know,

the president has no guts. He clearly is not even involved in shaping the policy. He's just a mouthpiece. And this is a tragedy. It's a tragedy for every American. We're involved in a war which our government has never even had the decency to explain to us, because the United States was never threatened in either of these wars, and the United States could have stopped them, and yet we're beginning, we're given nothing. It's a tragedy, tragedy for what this country has become. And there never was a declaration of war. There can't be a declaration of war because Gaza doesn't pose, the Palestinians don't pose any threat to the national security of the United States.

Russia doesn't pose any threat to the national security of the United States. So Congress is paying for wars that it refuses to declare because the federal statutes that it has written and the treaties that the Senate has ratified prevent it from declaring war on anybody it wants. So instead of declaring war, it just pays for war. What are the 200 troops, American troops doing in Israel? Well, they're waiting to die, I think. The principle there is, I think, Biden wanted to make some kind of gesture to Israel, to Netanyahu, to show that, oh, we're really backing you, Benji. But the fact is that these guys are sitting ducks. They're a tripwire. The Iranians know exactly where they are. The Iranians have missiles that can penetrate to

where they are and it you know they'll be the call of iran whether they want to uh bring the war u.s into the war that way i would i would hope they wouldn't and uh i would hope that biden would have had the sense not to make this gesture. But of course, again, who's calling the shots in Washington? I guess it's coming from the Israeli embassy. Can the Israelis achieve their goals just by brute force? If their goals are, let me define their goals or my understanding of their goals, expanding the borders of Israel from the river to the sea, to include Gaza, to include the West Bank, to include the Golan Heights, and to include southern Lebanon. Can they do this without some diplomatic resolution? or is a diplomatic resolution impossible because of the right-wing forces that

are in control of the Netanyahu government? Well, I think when you hear the people around Netanyahu speaking, like Smotrich, Gavir, these people are saying what their intentions are. They make it very clear. We're talking about eradication of the Palestinian population of the country that used to be called Palestine 75 years ago. And the fact is that can they do it? Of course they can do it. They've got a nuclear arsenal and they've got the means to deliver it. They can destroy Tehran tomorrow. They can destroy Beirut tomorrow. They can do it. And they are really dangerous. And the fact that the United States government cannot come to grips with the fact of how dangerous and reckless these people are is frightening. It's unimaginable in many ways. But, yeah, they can do it. Sure, they can do it and after they nuke tehran and they nuke beirut and nuke i guess cairo uh you know there

will be joe biden or his successor whoever it is standing up with a bunch of congressmen to defend israel's right to defense it defend itself i would think in a in a situation that extreme that Russia would get involved, Phil, wouldn't you? I would love to see Russia involved, but, you know, Russia's got its own games to play. And it's not right for the U.S., which has encouraged this disaster, to be pointing to Russia or to be trying to implicate Russia in any way. It's a tragedy. Do you have any, I'm going to switch gears now, sources or information from your former colleagues in the intelligence community about whether or not North Korean troops are in fact on the ground in Russia? I'm not talking about out by Siberia where they train. I'm talking about where the conflagration is between Russia and Ukraine. Well, what I'm hearing

is probably what you're hearing from Larry and others is pretty much that this has not really been demonstrated in any serious way. There might be observers close to where the fighting is taking place, since North Korea and Russia are quite friendly. And there might indeed be some oriental troops in the Russian army who come from, you know, Russian Siberia goes all the way to the Pacific Ocean. And there are parts of Russia that are oriental. And, you know, it's possible that some of these are being confused. The Chechens have also been mentioned a couple of times as being volunteers. And that, again, could be a source for confusion and if the north koreans are involved does that mean ipso facto the south

koreans are going to get involved on the other side i i'd be afraid of that but i i i can see where it would lead to that the united states would suddenly be talking about the yellow peril again or something and uh the menace being presented by these people i mean they keep going on about china uh well it just expand the uh the language wow bill gerald thank you very much i appreciate you letting letting me go off topic. Your piece at the Unz Review, Two Governments, that's U-N-Z if you want to read it, Two Governments Linked by Lies and Bloodshed is a very, very powerful piece. And I commend people who follow us and follow Phil to read the piece. Thank you, Phil. And thank you for changing your schedule to meet mine. I know today's not Wednesday, but it's great having you on a Monday. All the best, my friend. Okay.

Well, thank you. It was good to be on. Of course. And coming up at four o'clock today, Scott Ritter, who's on fire. I was with him much of yesterday, but I'll let him manifest that fire for you at four o'clock today. Judge Napolitano for Judging Freedom. Thank you.