Judging Freedom - Phil Giraldi: War In An Ocean of Lies

Episode Date: April 17, 2024

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Thank you. Hi, everyone. Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom. Today is Wednesday, April 17th, 2024. Our dear friend Phil Giraldi joins us now. Phil, it's a pleasure, my friend. Thank you very much. You have a great piece out which precedes the Iranian response to the Israeli attack on the Iranian consulate of Damascus called War and Peace in an Ocean of Lies. And I commend that piece to everyone that is interested in knowing the nature and extent of the deception and law military assisted the Israeli attack on the Iranian consulate in Damascus? Well, yeah, I would suspect that given the level at which U.S. intelligence, in this case particularly probably military intelligence rather than CIA, the way they cooperate working through bases in Israel itself where U.S. military are stationed,

I would suspect that there was a lot more connivance going on, maybe not at a top official level, but certainly at a working level known that the Israelis were about to demolish an embassy or a consulate? Yeah. Well, that's the big question, of course, because to destroy a diplomatic mission is a major league war crime it's not just the usual kinds of tit for tat that's that seems to go on in the region and i would think that on a let's say an official level uh these guys must have been in the loop for doing this must have been but again on a working level you know stuff goes on and uh I'm I'm not really convinced that they were stupid enough to give a go ahead for something like this because the the one thing I think you can trust that's coming out of Biden's mouth right now is that he's kind of wanting to put the lid on this whole thing exploding. And this was a sure thing, sure way thing to get the explosion, to get the thing moving ahead. So Israel would have been motivated for it

because Israel wants the United States through some chicanery or otherwise to get involved in a war against Iran. So that was my theory in the beginning. But now I'm kind of wondering, there's some theories flying up about how this came about, how this was contrived. Well, I want you to share those theories with us, unless you think they're absurd, Phil,

because I'm trying to determine, with your help and the help of our colleagues, if Joe Biden not only is complicit in genocide, but in the additional war crime of attacking an embassy, a consulate. I keep confusing the two. It's the consulate adjacent to the embassy, which is absolutely protected under the Geneva Conventions, no matter who was inside the building. Well, again, I would, in all seriousness, have to consider that these people at the top of the system would have been briefed on this. At the top of the American system or the Israeli system? The American system is what I'm talking about, because these are the ones that theoretically could have put a stop to it.

Certainly, Israel had motive to pull the Americans into this and might have been able to pull it off. But I rather suspect there might be other working relationships, as I prefer to call them, that might have made this happen. The whole thing is you have to decide what was the ultimate motive of the Israelis doing something this crazy? Because it was crazy. It's such a high-level war crime that it has to be something that goes beyond the killing of a couple of Iranian generals. And the only thing that makes sense to me, it made sense to me right from the beginning was that they were hoping that the iranians would respond with a response that would be so serious that the united states would be sucked in

as israel's protector so that seems to make a lot of sense uh and and and now we're hearing some other things there was a a piece today by seymour h Hersh in which he cites a lot of anonymous military officers, both British and American, who apparently were involved, or so it seems, involved in working with the Iranians to come up with a response that would not trigger yet another retaliation. So how many circles within circles do we have here? And how far does this go on? So the Americans are supplying the Israelis with ammunition and weaponry with which to commit genocide, consenting to or looking the other way when they murder Iranian generals and advising the Iranians

as to how to strike back so they don't hit too hard and start World War III. You can't make this up. No, you can't. But it's what's floating out there. And I must admit, I don't know if we'll have an answer to this or a plausible answer to this until we see what the Iranian response to whatever Israel does is going to be. So let's see what the next circle is. If both Iran and Israel are deciding that they want this to kind of cool off, then they'll go that kind of route. They'll be sort of a tit for tat again, and the whole thing will go away. But if either one puts the foot down on the accelerator, then there are other motives that come into play about who wants what to happen down the road. And this is pretty scary stuff. I mean, as I keep mentioning, Israel is a nuclear

power and in the past has toyed with the idea of using its nuclear weapons under certain circumstances. So this is scary stuff. One of our writers refers to it as a kabuki theater. It is like a kabuki theater if the United States is on both sides here. What did you think of the Iranian response and their very shrewd use of drones to force the Israelis to spend a billion dollars shooting down harmless drones? Yeah, that's an interesting aspect of this too because uh the Israelis are almost certainly running out of ammunition

and uh the meanwhile we see in Washington they're pushing through again uh this uh package of what, $93 billion, $91 billion, I guess it is, for Ukraine and Israel and for the Pacific. And that would be $14 billion that Israel would have to spend on replacing its weapons. So that's another interesting aspect of this. Even though the Iranians may have deliberately set up something that wouldn't kill people, would only hit military bases, presumably in areas that were not used by troops. Even if that's true and they sort of let the Israelis off the hook, the question is, where does this go next when the Israelis are rearmed and replenished by the United States? I don't know. I don't know what Israel is going to do. What I'm reading from the media in Europe, which has a better feel for what's going on inside Israel, the Israelis have pretty much decided that it's going to be a pretty hard slap in the face what their response is going to be, and it's coming soon. Seems to me that the Iranians were moral, surgical, and even brilliant.

I mean, they told the Saudis or the Americans or somebody who told the Israelis, this is the very intelligence headquarters building they're going to destroy, you better get out. The Israelis certainly didn't do that to the Iranian generals and civilians that they murdered. And they even told them what military targets they were going to hit. They didn't kill a single person. A young girl got hit with a piece of shrapnel, but they didn't aim at or intend to kill a single human being, unlike what the Israelis did. Do you think that Netanyahu will do all he can to enhance this, to provoke Iran, to draw a massive response, to bring the United States in. After all, Phil, Israel is our most valued and our closest ally, according to what I hear on the floor of the House of Representatives almost every day these days.

Well, I would have a different take on that. I know you do, and I'm provoking you. I've had to verbalize a number of times., yeah, the whole way these stories fit together or don't quite fit together does hint at some kind of collusion. And that's why I'm kind of interested in seeing where this goes and how it goes. But I think the next play will be the decisive one. If Israel kind of does something basically innocuous and Iran doesn how you put it, Netanyahu is a reckless individual. I was going to use a different noun. And he basically is quite capable of initiating a war with iran as long as he feels in his head that congress and the white house will back him up and basically come into the war on his side against the iranians he he wants he's

been preaching for how many since the 1990s about how um you uh the iranians are are five minutes away from having a nuclear weapon which has been lie ever since that time and even up till now. But he's been preaching it to create a motive to attack them and destroy them. And I have no doubt he still has that in his head. And as I say, he's reckless. He's ruthless. He knows that the longer he can drag these wars on, the better his own politics are. Because when these wars are over, he's going to jail.

I wonder if Speaker Johnson tipped his hand at something that's coming. This is cut number nine, Sonia. He's got a lot of issues on his hands, including his longevity in office. But listen to this clip in which he says, I regard myself as a wartime speaker. I didn't know we were at war. But listen to this. Look, we are in unprecedented times. Okay? We're in dangerous times. This has been articulated here, around the world, and here at home.

We need steady leadership. We need steady hands at the wheel. Look, I regard myself as a wartime speaker. I mean, in a literal sense, we are. I knew that when I took the gavel. I didn't anticipate that this would be an easy path. Former Speaker Newt Gingrich posted a couple of days ago on his social media that this is the hardest challenge that's faced a speaker probably in the history of the country, in the moment we're in right now. He said arguably may be comparable to to the civil war but maybe worse somewhat of an exaggeration i think but it's interesting that this brand new young speaker

who is within uh one or two votes of being removed from office by his own party because he stands for nothing that the party supposedly stands for. There's no reason for us to get into that right now. Nevertheless, calls himself a wartime speaker. Do you think he knows war is coming or is he just trying to gather votes to retain his job? Well, actually, it's kind of a scary comment in that it's not clear exactly what he means by it. He means, I would suspect, that these two wars that the United States is engaged in, and the possible third one coming in Iran and maybe the fourth one coming in China, is something that he accepts as a reality of the United States experience at this time in the world. And I think that is pretty scary. I think that's pretty awful.

All of these wars, at least in my opinion, and I suspect possibly yours too, could have been avoided. And the United States, instead of taking the steps that would have avoided these wars and would have saved probably already something like a million lives, instead embraced these situations that were developing that could have been negotiated out of. And certainly the situation with Iran and what's going on with China now, these are negotiable situations. They're all negotiable situations. But if this lughead from Louisiana really thinks that he's a wartime guy, you know, I wonder, was he in the military? I don't even know that.

And just like Joe Biden, draft dodger Joe Biden is obviously seeing himself as a wartime president. Where do all these clowns come with these labels? Well, I guess they look up to somebody like FDR and emulate what they believe was his leadership. Is Israel an ally to the united states is is the relationship of israel to the united states beneficial to the united states the the relationship i've discussed this before israel is not technically an ally because an alliance requires reciprocity. Israel has never been an ally. Israel's relationship with the United States, from my own experience when I was in government,

and I used to see a lot of the so-called intelligence produced by Israel that passed to the United States, this stuff was fantasy island, all about making Iranians and Arabs look bad. That's what they were really good at. And so, no, we've never benefited in any way from the relationship with Israel. And Israel has benefited to the tune of, I think, something like $280 billion. And this year, the estimate is that that they get this 14 billion they will get 25 billion dollars from the united states to fight their war and which we gain nothing from uh in this year 25 billion alone this is ridiculous uh back to uh iran uh and is. I'm going to play some clips for you, and they are radically, radically different from each other. We'll start with Lord David Cameron on one of the Sunday talk shows.

Cut number four, Sonia. What about Iran's frustration at part of its sovereign territory being flattened? Well, I would argue there is a massive degree of difference between what Israel did in Damascus and, as I said, 301 weapons being launched by the state of Iran at the state of Israel for the first time, a state-on-state attack. 101 ballistic missiles, 36 cruise missiles, 185 drones. That is a degree of difference and I think a reckless and dangerous thing for Iran to have done. And I think the whole world can see all these countries that have somehow wondered, well, you know, what is the true nature of Iran? It's there in black and white. Now watch him lose his composure

with her follow-up question number 10, Sonia. What would Britain do if a hostile nation flattened one of our consulates? Well, we would take the very strong action. And Iran would say that that's what they did? Well, what they did, as I said, was a massive attack. So they were right to respond, but they overreacted, is that what you're saying? What I'm saying is that the attack they carried out was on a very large scale,

much bigger than people accepted. But did they have a right to respond? Well, countries have a right to respond. Well, first of all, this is probably the dumbest foreign minister that Britain's ever had, because he should recognize that an embassy overseas is sovereign territory. It is part of that country. That's why this is such an egregious crime. And the fact that the Iranians clearly took steps to make sure that they wouldn't kill people and that they wouldn't do damage to anything that would be seen as a devastating loss for Israel was obviously a

very good move. Israel was not making a good move when it destroyed a consulate general in a foreign country in Syria and deliberately killed a bunch of senior Iranian government officials. So, you know, this guy is... My wife worked for the British Foreign Ministry back some years ago. She warned me a number of years ago that this guy was an idiot. Here's a member of the British Parliament who's hardly an idiot. The first of the two speakers. You'll have a different view of the second. I'm not even going to tell you who it is, but you'll know in a moment.

Cut number five. Speaker, I knew your father well for a very long time. He was a fine man man and I am sincerely sorry for your loss. There was not one single word in the Prime Minister's statement of condemnation of the Israeli destruction of the Iranian consulate in Damascus, which is the proximate reason for the event everyone is here in concert condemning. He was not even asked to do so by the front bench opposite. Kay Burley is the only person so far to demand that of a government minister. We have no treaty with Israel, at least not one that Parliament has been shown.

And the Iranians are not likely to listen to him when Britain occupied Iran, looted its wealth, and overthrew its one democratic socialist government in my own lifetime. un Llywodraeth Socio-leol, yn fy mhrofiad fy hun. Mr Speaker. Beth bynnag a ddigwyddai ychydig wythnosau yn ôl, nid oes unrhyw ddyluniad i lawnu mwy na 300 o droniadau a misailion o un justification for launching more than 300 drones and missiles from one sovereign state towards Israel. It's as simple as that. And in the Honorable Gentleman's question, not once did he

condemn that action or indeed the actions of Hamas in the region. There is no equivalence between these things whatsoever. And to suggest otherwise is simply wrong. I think the great George Galloway was actually trying to be heard in the background of the Prime Minister speaking, but they cut his microphone off. So there is courage and there is accuracy, however numerically insignificant it may be, in the world's oldest deliberative body what do you think well I think this is all a club that uh you know the British the French Germans Americans uh it's a big club

and they're all owned by Israel uh this is a tragedy for our times they're either guilt trips or whatever or money or whatever it is that has created these relationships, they're bad for everybody. And I would note that the British have been among the worst. You know, when the Russians and the Chinese tabled a motion in the UN Security Council condemning the Israeli attack on the consulate general in Syria. It was vetoed by, of course, the United States, joined by France and Britain. And our brilliant ambassador there at the UN, she said the reason was because there were a lot of things that weren't very clear. Now, you know, the planes were observed flying over the border and bombing the target. I guess apart from that, they might have been the Russians, you know, pulling a real dirty trick.

But I think the likely answer is that this was done by the Israelis. And yet the United States refuses to condemn it and blocked a measure to condemn it in a world body. So you watch this performance going on and it's lie after lie after lie, evasion after evasion after evasion, not just the United States. It's Britain, and it's France, and it's Germany, and probably a few others. And they all seem to be owned by Israel. It's incredible how this came about, and it's time for it to end. Well, one person not owned by Israel is George Galloway.

That's obvious. He has a way with words. Phil, you have a way with words as well, and it's a pleasure to be able to share these words with you once a week. Thank you very much for joining us, my dear friend. Thank you for having me on. Okay, we'll see you again next week, as you wish. Coming up at four o'clock Eastern, Aaron Matei.

For more of this, Aaron has some very interesting observations and news for you on what's going on in Israel. Judge Napolitano for Judging Freedom. I'm out.