Judging Freedom - Putin, Biden & Ukraine - Why is This Happening?
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Hello there, everyone. Judge Andrew Napolitano here with Judging Freedom. Today is Thursday, February 24th, 2022. It's about 1010 in the morning on the east coast of the United States. Welcome to a very special edition
of Judging Freedom with a very special guest who needs very little introduction. You can see him
there on the screen, Alex Jones. Alex, of course, is one of the great provocateurs of our time.
He's also one of the kings of the hill on radio and podcasting with an enormous audience,
an audience that I welcome into my podcast today.
Alex, it's a pleasure, my dear friend.
Welcome to Judging Freedom.
Judge, it's great to be here.
I wish that we were in more peaceful times, but boy,
there's a lot to talk about. There is a lot to talk about. So this morning we woke up and found out that Russia is engaged in a full-scale invasion of the Ukraine for reasons best known
to President Putin and never clearly articulated. What, if anything, should the United States do about it? Well, I mean, my foreign policy views are very similar to yours. I'm more of a Monroe
Doctrine type of guy. I don't think we should be the American empire. And I think we should
control our borders first and really promote our sovereignty and our freedom first. And then we can
lecture the world with the things we've seen with the Democratic Party and the surveillance and the spying and the January 6th
police state activities, the persecution of people, and the U.S. launching all these wars
four, five, six, seven thousand, ten thousand miles away. We don't have really a lot of moral
authority, at least in the government, to criticize or attack Putin. But I don't lionize Putin. I don't think that Russia is an angel. But NATO clearly, since
the fall of the Soviet Union, had a handshake deal not to expand to Russia's borders. They've
expanded five times. So this is the fifth expansion with a lot of heavy A-class weapons,
anti-aircraft and anti-tank weapons, $5 billion worth in just the last year
and billions before that in the last eight years. And so there's really a proxy war that's been
ongoing in the east of Ukraine in those classically held Russian areas that Lenin and Stalin in two
different pieces signed over to Ukraine. And so the ethnic Russians have been getting targeted
and Putin has been saying for about five years, I may move in there if you don't stop doing this. And so the Russians began
basically losing the proxy war in the last six months. There's a new viral clip on Twitter out
there where I went on air in October and I said, I've been told by high level sources that there's
going to be war in late January or into February, and that Russia
may move, that China may move into Taiwan. I first learned about that from a very, very wealthy
person, I'll leave it at that, who said, hey, you better be ready for next February or January or
February. Then I made a call to an individual I know that works in Army Special Operations,
and he said, yeah, how do you know that? That's the word we've got. Uh, and then I saw Elon Musk saying, look for a major stock market
dip in February. I know he's dialed in. And so I went on air and I said, I believe this stuff's
going to kick off in January or February of last year. Uh, that's not Nostradamus. It's not a
crystal ball. So, uh, all of that, all of that is happening. Uh, as of a few seconds ago, the market was down 800 points.
I think the market knew that this was going to happen.
The professionals knew that this was going to happen.
I think the best thing to do today is not even to look at your securities because everything's in red.
But getting back to Putin, I don't even think we should be engaged in a proxy war. Now, like you, I don't lionize
him. I don't know what motivates him. He may be a killer. He may have been a killer. He's an ex-KGB
agent. But if the Chinese, I'll use Ron Paul's analogy. You may have used this as well, Alex.
We may have discussed it together on your show. If the Chinese, like NATO, had put sophisticated weaponry in Mexico aimed at Texas, don't you think we would do something about it?
Well, that's right.
I mean, if the Chinese or the Russians put anti-aircraft and anti-tank missiles on our border, the U.S. would learn about it in about four or five days.
They'd say, you pull that off within a week,
just like Kennedy did the Cuban Missile Crisis,
or we're going to blow it up.
And it's real simple that if anybody did anything
like what's happening on the border of Russia,
we would go to war with them.
And so that's what's so provocative.
And as much as I don't like war,
and as much as I don't like some of the things Putin does,
and I'm not naive about him, look at what's happening over here and look at how Biden
pushed and attacked and shipped weapons in and made all these statements about how he would crush
the Russians. Well, the Russians basically are tired of being pushed around. And you saw what
happened with Napoleon and the Russians. We saw what happened with Hitler and the Russians. And
at the end of the day, when the Russians are under attack, they're not going to back down. And so
all Putin wanted was a announcement by NATO that they would not invoke Article 5 of the NATO charter
and take Ukraine into NATO. And they would not give him that. And so he put troops on the border
as a message, you better do it. And when they didn't, he called their bluff and invaded. two separatist states within Ukraine, which voted by majority vote to secede from Ukraine.
Now, you and I and most of the people watching this now believe, just as the 13 colonies
seceded from Great Britain in 1776, you and I believe that when the central government is no longer representing the will of the locals or is actively assaulting the natural rights of the locals,, he had every right to do that because
those breakaway states have the right to secede and become independent entities. Agree or disagree,
Alex? Well, you're the famous judge and author, but I mean, that's the Declaration of Independence.
That's why we celebrate July 4th. And that's where I was a month ago. I said, he'll probably
take those two breakaway regions that are 90 plus percent ethnic Russians.
That was always part of Russia.
Russia was born in the ninth century in what is Ukraine today.
Then Ukraine basically founded what is Russia.
So that's the home of the Slavic people.
The founder of it was called Slav.
His last name was Slavov.
I'm pronouncing it wrong.
And so that's why they're called Slavs.
Their founder, like George Washington's our founder, you know, 250 years ago or so,
their founder 1,100 plus years ago is this Slav fellow.
And so that's their birthplace being taken.
And Putin said, you can have your sovereignty.
You're our birthplace.
We want to just do deals with you.
We don't want to occupy you. You know, we know a lot of the Western Ukrainians see themselves as
more German or, you know, other groups. There's always been that split, but we don't want this
war, but we're not going to let you be a proxy state. And so when Putin took those areas and
under his wing and said he would protect them because they declared independence, I think that
was something we could probably agree with because NATO started it.
Now that he's blowing up all the different military bases and equipment,
I mean, hundreds of bombings an hour around the country, destroying their military.
He's calling it demilitarizing.
I understand why Putin's doing it, but I think it's a very dangerous escalation.
And I think he may be biting off more than he can chew. What do you think? Well, it's certainly against international
law. I mean, it's against the UN Charter. It's against the Minsk Agreement, which he personally
signed in 2015. But let's just go back a few years, Alex, to 2014, when Ukraine had a popularly elected government that did not want to join NATO
and wanted to remain neutral as to NATO and Moscow. What did the American CIA do? They fomented
a coup against that government and chased the popularly elected neutral president of Ukraine to Moscow. And now
that coup is coming back to bite the West. That's what I say. You're totally right. This is all the
fault of the Barack Obama. I don't know that he personally was involved, but it's all the fault
of the CIA under President Obama in 2014. Well, you're right. And remember later,
they declassified the cables after the Russians leaked them of the ambassadors over in the EU
saying, screw the EU, screw Europe, because the EU was complaining, saying you're going to
destabilize Europe and Putin may come in. And if people remember, you can pull up the quotes,
but they said, screw the EU and screw Russia. Basically, the State Department and Obama's people,
continuing what Biden was involved in with Hunter, were just basically using their power
to annex that into their own system. That's why Putin said when he signed these orders
to start invading Ukraine a few days ago, he said, you're not just a puppet of the EU,
you're a puppet of multinational corporations. And that's absolutely true. And he said, I'm not
going to let a multinational consortium, because he correctly explained, it's this club of Rome,
Bilderberg Group, Davos Group, corporate system, using the State Department it controlled under
Obama and Biden and Hillary, to then basically go in and
take control of Ukraine and then make the Ukrainian government pay them large percentages of all of
their energy and other systems. So it's now like a duchy of the left that they basically suck off of.
All right. I don't want anybody listening to us to misunderstand us, if Putin is targeting civilians, that's a war crime.
And if Putin is invading Ukraine to take it over, that is profoundly against international law.
But Alex and I are attempting to explain the historical and political background as to how we got here.
Switching gears a little bit. What the heck is going to be accomplished, Alex, in your
opinion, by the imposition of sanctions on Vladimir Putin and his inner circle? I mean, why prevent
the son of his top security guy from borrowing money from a Russian bank? That's only going to
come back to bite us. Look at the price of oil this morning and look at the stock market this morning.
Joe Biden's sanctions are making that worse on Americans.
Exactly. We've just come off two years of lockdowns in many parts of the world.
The supply chain is already seriously damaged.
We already have massive inflation.
And I woke up yesterday and the corporate media that went from saying there is no inflation a year ago to it's only transitory to it's not that bad to now, oh my gosh, it's all Putin's fault.
And now Putin's responding by blocking fertilizer and potash, they're the second largest exporter of that in the world.
That's going to cause major economic and energy problems around the world.
They're now blocking Nord Stream 2 that was going to deliver more gas to Europe.
Biden's already killed the Israeli pipeline going into Europe.
He's already killed the Keystone pipeline.
And so you put this whole perfect storm together.
This is really Klaus Schwab's great reset.
And this is going to cause a worldwide economic collapse,
which the Davos group and others brag they're
going to use to consolidate control.
So I think there's a method to this madness that's going to squeeze and really hurt the
average Russian, the average Nigerian, the average American, the average person in the
UK, the average Canadian, and it's going to hurt the average Russian, but it's not going
to hurt the same billionaires clubs who on average doubled their money in the last two years of the pandemic.
You mentioned Nord Stream 2 so that the folks listening to us know what we're talking about.
This is an underwater pipeline that sells natural gas from Russia to Germany.
That's Nord Stream 1.
Nord Stream 2 is another one which is not yet built. So these
people that you're talking about, particularly the Americans and probably Joe Biden, do not want
Germany, for example, which is the other end of the Nord Stream pipelines, to be dependent on
Russia for natural gas. They don't want that alliance. They don't want a peaceful,
natural, commercial relationship, amicable relationship between Germany and Russia.
They'd rather Germany were dependent upon us. And to that extent, Joe Biden is going to make
things worse. Honestly, I don't know what he can do. He can't bring troops in. A proxy war
is futile and just kills innocent young men.
But the sanctions that he's imposing are going to cause heartache and misery on millions of innocent people who have nothing whatsoever to do with Russia versus the Ukraine.
Agree or disagree?
It's perfectly said.
And this level of corporate global brinksmanship
again is extremely dangerous and uh most of the blame falls on as you rightfully said this goes
back to Obama this goes back to Biden uh and them setting up this modern coup for a puppet state
that they could milk and then that was one thing Russia's like okay you stole the country with a
coup now you're robbing it well we don't like that but okay like, okay, you stole the country with a coup. Now you're robbing it. Well, we don't like that, but okay, rob them.
And the Russians have that history of exploiting their neighbors.
Well, now they're putting all the military and equipment in, Biden is.
And Putin said, okay, that's it.
You're not doing this.
But the worst thing is killing our Keystone pipeline right when it was completed.
Nord Stream 2 is like 99% completed.
And then on top of that, you have this big Israeli-Arab pipeline that was going to bring
gas into Europe instead of the Russians, and that's been killed because it's not good for
the earth. And as the Energy Secretary said a few months ago, we're in a transition. Yeah,
a transition to Great Depression. I mean, this is outrageous. It's just crazy.
I couldn't agree with you more. What's wrong with government today? Government in the United States?
It's extremely predatory. And if you look at just the Keystone Pipeline and how Soros, Buffett, and a few others control the railway in central Canada that now ships all of that oil and gas to the West Coast
to be shipped to China and Japan,
where they can get almost twice as much.
So they didn't want all that shipped by a pipeline
to Shreveport and to Houston,
where we could get up to a 30% energy cut
just from that giant pipeline system.
It's not just one pipeline out of Canada.
It spurs all over Canada and all over the North and the Midwest to, to, to develop and
bring all that energy to America and then export that energy that we have extra.
We were energy independent, the biggest exporter of energy within two years of Trump being in. And now within a year of him being out,
we are now not energy independent. We are now importing massive amounts and it's special
interest. No, the best way to make money is monopolies. And so if they can shut down all
their competition, whether it's the Russians or the Israelis or American companies, they can
make even more money and
power.
And it's sick.
It's feudalism.
You've studied history.
Almost every culture, whether it was the ancient Romans or whether it was the Babylonians or
the Egyptians or the ancient Japanese, the Chinese, all these groups had feudalism and
they would keep the general public very poor and at a subsistence level as a mode of control.
The Renaissance 500 years ago
said, let's stop that. Let's build everybody up, rising tides, raise all ships. Well, under
globalism and under the Great Reset, it's going back to a feudalist system, but administered
through a, quote, technocracy and a global social credit score. And that's why they want to plunge
the world economy and crash it to bring in this new global digital currency. So the government today in America, whether we're talking about
the governor of New York forcing you to wear masks or the governor of New Jersey going back a year
now, not permitting more than 25 people to assemble in one place for any reason, unless it
was a political reason with which he agreed, whether it's Joe Biden ordering
masks on all employees that have all employers to enforce his regulation and claiming he can
look at the medical records of employees where 100 or more people are employed.
Government recognizes no limits on its power. Government thinks it can do whatever it can get away with politically.
Government looks at the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and even the statutes that
restrain it as just pieces of paper, which is why I was so elated at the first two weeks of the
truckers in Canada. But then eventually government does what it is,
what it likes to do, declares an emergency,
suspends civil liberties, arrests without warrant,
incarcerates without trial,
seizes assets without a warrant or without a trial,
and gets away with it.
Well, that's where I was going next because you're,
you're,
you understand the history and the law better than I do.
Certainly.
And most,
what do you make of Trudeau?
And they've now are charging over a hundred people so far,
excuse me,
not charging them saying we're holding you for trial,
but then not even charging them and holding people for peacefully
protesting,
including the lady that led the whole thing peacefully,
without bond before trial, but then haven't even officially fully charged her.
They've done a few charges, but they said more are coming,
and they've announced a big, quote, dragnet,
and they've seized people's bank accounts.
I mean, under the law, what do you call that?
Is that not a form of martial law, or what would you would you call that? It's a form of totalitarianism. Now he ended his own
emergency decree. I mean, it's insane that a person can grab emergency powers on his own.
In the United States of America, there is no, thanks be to God, emergency exception
to the constitution. There was no emergency in Canada, even, emergency exception to the Constitution.
There was no emergency in Canada, even by the definition of the statute that he used.
That statute requires that there be a serious breach of national security,
that the government couldn't operate without the emergency.
Baloney.
The government was embarrassed because the truckers had hit a raw nerve,
which is that the government was telling people what they had to put on their faces when you're confined in the cab of a truck. It's not like these truckers were healthcare workers.
They were driving their own trucks, and the government was insisting that they wear the mask. But I'm sure you saw that viral video of an 80-year-old man passed a sign saying,
if you agree with the truckers, blow your horn. He blew his horn. The cops stopped the car,
yanked him out of the car, handcuffed him behind his back and took him away
because he expressed a political opinion contrary to the government. Can that happen here, Alex Jones?
Well, I think it has happened here, and Senator Paul pointed out that what we see with the January
6th tyranny is now being exported around the world to Canada and other areas, and now America,
instead of being the castle on the hill, the lot on the hill that
Ronald Reagan and others talked about as an example of freedom, we are now becoming an example of
tyranny. And then we lose our moral high ground with places like Russia and China. And as you know,
the Democrats are running on these midterms on the American people being terrorists. And Biden,
in June of last year,
he issued the new terrorism directive telling the FBI and Homeland Security
that the main threat isn't radical Islam.
The main threat isn't China or Russia or the Mexican mafia or MS-13.
No, that it is people that question lockdowns,
people that question open borders and people that question the election.
And they officially have been running around saying that that should be
illegal.
And they've got big polls out where almost half of Democrats want people put
in jail that don't take these experimental shots and want people put in jail
that peacefully protest that they're actually telling Rasmussen and they're
actually telling other major polls that this is what they want. I mean,
they have successfully converted a large portion of the Democratic Party into folks that would
fit in nicely in North Korea. Wow. Look, the Supreme Court has ruled that you are the master
of your own body. You decide what goes on your body and you decide what goes in your body.
And the government has signed the Nuremberg Protocols, which is a treaty shortly after
World War II that prohibits the forcible injection of chemical experiments into the body.
I mean, wearing a mask is a sign of humiliation and allowing the government to enter your
body either directly or indirectly is a sign of humiliation.
The government doesn't recognize individuals as sovereign anymore. the government to enter your body either directly or indirectly is a sign of humiliation. The
government doesn't recognize individuals as sovereign anymore. The government thinks that,
as I said earlier, it's sovereign and it can do whatever it can get away with. Alex, I'll give you
the last word. And I can't thank you enough for all your time today. The emails and texts that
are coming in are over the top, Alex, because you're on with me.
A couple of them want you and me to run for president.
Well, you and me to run together, but they don't say who's the president and who's the vice president.
I think I'd have to be the vice president.
You'd probably do a better job than me, but you would actually make a good president.
I probably wouldn't.
But seriously, people need to promote your show.
I see it all over the place.
It's getting very, very popular.
But you got censored a lot for telling the truth about how Trump was being spied on,
and they really backbenched you then and phased you out, even though you were one of the big
stars over at Fox.
And so we need the Phoenix to really rise again.
Everybody should promote this interview and the other great interviews you do and share
it and just make sure the cancel culture isn't successful. And folks need to know that I'm still here at infowars.com and band.video,
but you can't share those links online. They block them. So we have backup links, uh, like
future news.news and folks spread the word. Alex Jones is still on air. And after being
deplatformed four years ago, we did have about no exaggeration 10 million
viewers and listeners a day we got knocked back to a couple million and thanks to talk radio we
were able to stay on air and not go bankrupt though we almost did and then we've slowly built
back up now via word of mouth of listeners that that that alex jones lives and the forbidden
information is at band.video so thank thank you so much, Judge, and thank
you for coming on my show. Thank you for coming on Freedom Watch, Alex. All the best to you. Judge
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