Judging Freedom - Scott Ritter: The Evil That Netanyahu Has Wrought

Episode Date: August 5, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Thank you. Hi everyone, Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom. Today is Monday, August 5th, 2024. Scott Ritter will be with us in just a moment on some very interesting subject matters. What is the evil that Benjamin Netanyahu has wrought to Israel domestically and to Israel in foreign policy? And just what were Evan Gershkowitz and Paul Whelan arrested for? Are they babes in the woods? But first this. You all know that I am a paid spokesperson for Lear Capital, but I'm also a customer, a very satisfied customer. About a year ago, I bought gold and it's now increased in value 23%. So $100 invested in gold a year ago is now worth $123.
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Starting point is 00:02:27 there was this prisoner exchange that involved several countries. The better known of the two Americans that were released, one of your fellow Marines, Paul Whelan, and a journalist for the Wall Street Journal named Evan Gerskovich. The Americans, of course, claiming that these people were just snatched off the street as bait and that they did nothing wrong. Let's start with Evan Gerskovich. What do the Russians say he did? What was their publicly stated basis for arresting and prosecuting him, and what was he convicted of? He was convicted of espionage. Plain and short, he received classified information about the Russian defense industry, Russian military production that was of great interest
Starting point is 00:03:21 to the United States intelligence community at the time. time i mean we have to keep that in mind and um he had conspired with an employee of a defense industry enterprise in the russian city of ecotterinburg located basically east of the euro mountains right on the threshold of where europe and as meet. He traveled to Ekaterinburg after communicating his desire to receive very specific information from this individual. And he met with this individual in a restaurant where that individual provided him with an envelope that was filled with classified documents pertaining to sensitive Russian military industry secrets. And he was caught red-handed. The Russians held a trial in secret. They didn't present the evidence in a public fashion,
Starting point is 00:04:14 but they claimed to have the evidence of the communications. They have the conversation that Evan had with this individual in the restaurant. They have photographed this, Evan had with this individual in the restaurant They have photographed this videotape this and it shows clearly this individual handing the envelope over to evidence Incontrovertible what he did. It's a crime in Russia and he was found guilty of espionage. The question now is was Evan simply a Overzealous reporter who crossed the red line but maybe believed he was committing journalism? Or was he something more nefarious, an employee of the CIA? The CIA is on record talking to Congress about using journalists as a cover to gain access to areas where their diplomatic covered people can't.
Starting point is 00:05:08 That is the definition of Russia today. You can't send somebody who's operating under diplomatic cover in the United States embassy who has diplomatic community to an Ekaterinburg to carry out this kind of action. This is what you would send a non-official cover person to do. And the CIA has admitted it uses journalists as knocks. And the Russians believe, and I happen to agree with the Russians in this, that Evan Gershowitz was a knock working for the CIA. What is a knock, Scott? Non-official cover. Basically, let's say right now in Moscow, the CIA has a station. They have a station chief. That station chief is there undercover along with all the other CIA officers that are there. Their cover is as a diplomat. So they might be there as the first counselor, first secretary,
Starting point is 00:06:00 third secretary, agricultural advisor, economic advisor. Some operate under military cover. I'm not giving away secrets here. It's been published before. The CIA has acknowledged this in many of the records that they've released. But these people, if they get rolled up, if they get caught by the Russians, they operate under diplomatic cover. So they're protected. They get rolled up. The Russians take them in, photograph them, then they release them, and they're protected. They get rolled up. The Russians take them in, photograph them, then they release them and they're made persona non grata. They're kicked out of the country, never to return. A non-official cover is somebody who travels, who's an employee of the CIA, but not under a diplomatic passport. They travel as a businessman or as a journalist or something else. And they aren't protected protected if they get rolled up uh they
Starting point is 00:06:45 have no protections they're going to jail forever um and you know as cia assets they keep their mouths shut there's famous case where uh cia knocks were rolled up in cuba and spent a lot of years in jail the united states didn't acknowledge them until after they released uh and then there was a ceremony where they were appropriately you know commended. But I think Evan was a knock. The level of secrecy, the level of materials that he had, if the same level of secrecy and type of materials had been in the hands of an American without a security clearance, would that, in the U.S., would that person have been arrested? Absolutely. Classified information is classified information. If I worked for Lockheed Martin and I grabbed an envelope of classified information about,
Starting point is 00:07:36 you know, aircraft production, et cetera, and I removed it from, you know, a secure storage area and brought it home and traveled around with an envelope here, there, and everywhere, and I removed it from a secure storage area and brought it home and traveled around with an envelope here, there, and everywhere, and I was caught, I'd be arrested and thrown in jail. And if I tried to sell that to the Russians or give it to the Russians or Chinese or anybody else, I'd be arrested and accused of committing espionage. So, you know, this is not a complicated question. Evan Gershowitz broke Russian law, and he knew he was breaking Russian law. I can guarantee you that the Wall Street Journal and all other major media outlets that operate
Starting point is 00:08:10 in Moscow understand what Moscow rules are, and they know what they can and they can't do. And there's no way he thought he could get away with doing what he was doing under the guise of legitimate journalism, nor did his employers. Wall Street Journal needs to answer some questions. Who tasked him with this job? Which one of his editors gave him this task? What were the rules of engagement, so to speak? Did he clear his meeting with his editors? Did they know that he was going to Ekaterinburg to meet with an employee of a defense industry site to receive
Starting point is 00:08:41 an envelope of classified information? I'm going to bet that his employers weren't filled in on the details of what he was doing. Briefly, what was your fellow Marine Paul Whelan arrested for? What was he doing in Russia? Well, Paul Whelan's a different category. First of all, even though he was a Marine, once Marine, always Marine, he was discharged with a bad conduct discharge. He committed larceny using the social security numbers of his fellow Marines to steal from. So he was kicked out with bad conduct discharge. So that's the opposite of an honorable discharge, which means he's unemployable from an intelligence standpoint. So the idea that paul was working for the cia or somebody else uh your government related is absurd they would never
Starting point is 00:09:29 let him in with a bad conduct discharge he was a freelancer doing whatever he was doing as a advisor etc um he met with um you know a russian citizen who provided him with a usb um stick that contained contained classified information about Russian FSB, the equivalent of the FBI. So again, it's the equivalent of a Russian coming here and meeting with somebody affiliated with the FBI who gave him a USB data stick that contained classified files about FBI operations and FBI personnel. If caught, you're arrested and you will go to jail for espionage. And Paul Whelan was caught with this. He claims that he was just doing research on his own,
Starting point is 00:10:12 but you don't do research based on classified files received from somebody. Either he's the dumbest man alive. And again, his bad conduct discharge shows that he maybe not doesn't possess the best judgment, or he just thought that he was capable of playing a game that he wasn doesn't possess the best judgment, or he just thought that he was capable of playing a game that he wasn't trained or qualified to play. But either way, he received classified information. The Russians have actually released some of the
Starting point is 00:10:35 videotape showing him receiving the stick and showing him arrested by the FSB afterwards. Wow. Switching gears over to Israel, is torture in Israel and reprehensible behavior by Israeli officials now so commonplace that it seeks to shock? Resolve to earn your degree in the new year in the bay with WGU. WGU is an online accredited university that specializes in personalized learning. With courses available 24-7 and monthly start dates, you can earn your degree on your schedule. You may even be able to graduate sooner than you think by demonstrating mastery of the material you know. Make 2025 the year you focus on your future. Learn more at wgu.edu. I believe so.
Starting point is 00:11:33 I think we've gotten to the point where it's gone beyond perverted parody. When the Israelis jailed nine soldiers for raping Palestinian prisoners, and then Israeli citizens rise up and say that the Talmud interpretation of a Jewish law says it's not a crime to rape non-Jews and that these men should be freed. Not only that, then they sent hundreds of people to the Palestinian prisons demanding to be allowed in so they can rape the Palestinian prisoners because they're permitted to under Jewish law. This led to a near civil war in Israel where soldiers were facing off against soldiers. You know, this isn't bad Hollywood movie. This isn't the, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:21 the preface to some sort of zombie apocalypse. This is reality happening in Israel right now. Our ally, we claim that Israel and America is alike in many ways. I don't know when was the last time 500 American citizens stormed a state prison saying we need to be allowed in to rape the prisoners because we're permitted to under our religious beliefs. So that's happening in Israel as we speak.
Starting point is 00:12:43 The nine soldiers were released now from custody. They're not going to be charged with a crime because apparently in Israel, raping prisoners is no longer a crime. That's just one thing. They blew up a school today with students in it. The school burned. The students were inside the school burning to death. The parents were outside listening as their children screamed as they were burned to death. That happens on a daily basis. Israel has become literally the worst incarnation of what we could imagine Nazi Germany was like back in the day. And some people even say that even the Nazis weren't this bad. I don't go quite that way. I think killing millions of people in horrific fashion is as bad as it gets. But I think Israel is approximating the scope and scale of that behavior.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Our friend and colleague Alistair Crook referred to the behavior which you have just summarized as Mein Kampf in reverse. This belief that non-Jews can be raped just because they're not Jewish. I don't disagree with that. I have tremendous respect for Alistair Crook. He's somebody who, you know, former British intelligence officer in the region, very extensive knowledge of Israel and Palestine. And so his insights and observations carry a great deal of weight. And I need to also point out that the issue of Israel's far-right religious population and the Talmudic scholars and students, it's been haunting Israel for some time. Yitzhak Rabin's assassin, the man who pulled the trigger on Yitzhak Rabin back in November of 1995,
Starting point is 00:14:28 I believe, he claims that he was ordered to do this by a Talmudic Jewish rabbi who said that Yitzhak Rabin had violated Israeli law, was now an enemy of the Israeli people, and therefore had to be killed, that it was his religious duty to do this. This is the kind of perverted thinking that's widespread in Israel, that many of the battalions that operate in Gaza are reserve battalions drawn from Talmudic universities or camps. And these students believe that they have every right to murder, to rape, to pillage, to do whatever they want against non-Jews, and there's no crime, and they celebrate these crimes. So, you know, Alistair Cook's on to something. What do you think will happen next in light of the two assassinations that the Israeli government pulled off in Tehran and Beirut shortly after Prime Minister Netanyahu received adulation and obeisance
Starting point is 00:15:28 from the audience he bought and paid for on the floor of the House of Representatives? You know, there's some question as to whether or not Netanyahu gave the United States a heads up that he was going to do this. And I think that the answer is he did give the United States heads up. I know the United States denies this, but something of this scope and scale couldn't have been carried out without the United States at least knowing that it was happening so that we could be prepared to respond. Israel attacked Iran. It's straight up. And Iran has said that that is a red line and that Iran's retaliation will be on a scope and scale greater than that which took place back in April when they carried out Operation True Promise. And this appears to be the direction that Iran is heading. Some people predict that this attack will take place tonight. We don't know. I mean, Iran gets to make that decision. The timing and the level of retaliation
Starting point is 00:16:29 is purely an Iranian decision. But Netanyahu had to know that by attacking Iran the way he did, he was going to push Iran to where they needed to retaliate, and this would take it to another level. whether he believes that the United States would intervene or he was trying to force the Americans to intervene um I don't know the United States has indicated that it will not participate in offensive actions against the Iranians uh that the all they'll do is defend Israel from any Iranian missile attack. What happens when Hezbollah joins in the fight? What happens if the pro-Iranian militias in Iraq do it? There's already indication that American bases have been attacked in Iraq, maybe as a precursor to a larger regional offensive by the
Starting point is 00:17:19 axis of resistance. We're in a very, very dangerous situation right now, and it's all because of Benjamin Netanyahu's desire to hold on to political power at any cost. What do you think will happen in the next several weeks because of the evil that Netanyahu has wrought? If Iran retaliates on the level that it has indicated would be retaliation for such an attack, we could be looking at tens of thousands, even hundreds of thousands of lives lost, a general war between Iran and Israel that could drag the region in and drag the United States and maybe even Russia and China into it. You know, Israel has indicated that if Iran strikes civilian targets, that it will hit Iran's nuclear infrastructure. And Iran, of course,
Starting point is 00:18:12 would respond by hitting Israel's nuclear infrastructure and the escalation would go from there. You know, so we're looking at, you know, the real possibility that densely populated urban areas, both in Israel, Iran, and elsewhere, Beirut, could be hit with very lethal conventional weapons. Again, on a scope and scale that we haven't seen. I mean, the war in Ukraine definitely isn't done in this fashion. If you go to Kiev, the capital, people are partying, they're walking, they're shopping. You hardly know that there's a war. That won't be the case if there's a general conflict between Israel and Iran.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Tehran, Isfahan, these cities will be hit. Tel Aviv, Haifa, these cities will be hit. And, you know, civilian targets will be hit. Civilians will pay a very heavy price. Here's Hassan Nasrallah two days ago. Tell me what you think. Cut number three. The enemy and those behind the enemy must wait for our inevitable reaction.
Starting point is 00:19:22 God willing. There is no discussion or controversy about this. Does he mean what he says? I believe he does, but again, he was very nondescriptive in what he said, meaning that it's open to interpretation. Would he participate in a general retaliation with Iran, or would he hold off and strike at a time and place of his choosing? We have yet to see. Nasrallah has been a master of escalation management and not one to jump off the deep end precipitously, but I do think that he will take guidance from Iran's actions. Now, we know that the former defense minister of Russia, Sergei Shoigu, has flown to Tehran. There seems to be a stream of
Starting point is 00:20:12 Russian military aircraft flying to Iran, presumably delivering high-tech military equipment, maybe air defense systems, maybe surface-to-surface missile systems. We don't know. Could the Russians be asking the Iranians to delay, to tone things down? Or are the Russians saying, we're here with you? We do know that Sergei Lavrov said about Israel's actions that Israel can't expect Russia to sit on the sidelines forever. Is that unusual that Lavrov would say that and that Shoigu would personally go to Tehran? Does that indicate to you a level of interest in the outcome of this dispute on the part of the Kremlin? Absolutely. Well, first of all, we know that Russia and Iran have signed a defense agreement, you know, the details of which haven't been made public. But Russia and Iran are operating on a different level altogether today than they were this time last year, this time six months ago, this time three months ago.
Starting point is 00:21:19 They are strategically connected. Russia and Iran have signed a deal that connects St. Petersburg with the southern Iranian ports of Chabahar and Bandar Abbas, providing connectivity that can't be blocked by the United States. They're linked in terms of industrial cooperation, geopolitical cooperation, and Russia has indicated that it is a strategic ally of Iran. So I think Israel and the United States have to proceed with caution because this could very well turn into a conflict that has Russia jumping in on the side of Iran and that potentially puts Russia not only at odds with Israel, and there's Sergei Lavrov's statement, we're not going to sit on the sidelines forever. I think Russia has already made decisions. They're off the sidelines. They're off the bench. They're
Starting point is 00:22:15 on the field. Now the question is, what game does Israel want to play? Does Iran have nuclear weapons, Scott? I believe they do not. I believe they have the ability to enrich uranium of sufficient enrichment that could be used in a nuclear device. You know, then, you know, is it going to be a uranium weapon, a plutonium weapon? If it's a uranium weapon, you know, then they've got to convert it into metal they could make a simple gun design that's not that complex but um you know an implosion device requires work on high explosives that um you know the Iranians haven't to my best of my knowledge of completed
Starting point is 00:22:58 yet it's also something that the Iranians said that they weren't going to do I'm more worried to be honest, about a Pakistani weapon than I am about an Iranian weapon. What is your worry about a Pakistani weapon? That the Pakistanis would deliver a nuclear weapon at a target that Iran picked? I think if Israel uses nuclear weapons, which is something that if there's a general war between Israel and Iran, it's very likely that Israel would use some sort of nuclear device. It would be necessary to, for instance, penetrate into the Firdos nuclear facility, which is underground. It can't be penetrated by any conventional weapons. Israel would have to use a nuclear penetrator to get to it. If Israel used a
Starting point is 00:23:45 nuclear weapon against Iran, it's inevitable that an Islamic weapon will hit Israel. It's inevitable. I'm just trying to be as clear as I can be about this. It's inevitable that an Islamic weapon will hit Israel and probably destroy Israel. And the Pakistanis have made it clear that that weapon probably will have made Pakistan on it, whether the Pakistanis have made it clear that that weapon probably will have made Pakistan on it. Whether the Pakistanis deliver it themselves or give it to Iran to deliver, that's a question for the future to decide. But Israel needs to know that there is no free pass, that they don't get to use a nuclear weapon and nothing happens. Eventually, if Israel uses a nuclear weapon, Israel will be destroyed by nuclear weapons. How about let's go back to the IDF and Hezbollah. The Wall Street Journal this morning,
Starting point is 00:24:32 a cheerleader for Benjamin Netanyahu and a cheerleader for the destruction and genocide in Gaza, has a long piece reporting that the IDF is exhausted. They want to go back home. Their businesses are suffering. Their families are suffering. They're begging their leaders to beg Netanyahu's government not to pick a fight with Hezbollah. Can the IDF alone defeat or diminish Hezbollah? Diminish is a question. I think the IDF has the ability, if it engages in a full-scale war of attrition against Hezbollah, to inflict damage on Hezbollah.
Starting point is 00:25:18 But I don't believe the IDF will win this war. I believe that Hezbollah will win the war of attrition and it will be a strategic defeat for Israel. Israel prepared for such a conflict. They ran major exercises in 2021, 2022, but all of these exercises were predicated on Israel starting clean with a fresh military, all their resources focused on closing with and destroying the Hezbollah enemy. Israel is now entering this exhausted by over nearly nine months of war in Gaza that has diminished it, depleted it. The troops are physically and morally exhausted, psychologically worn out. Their tanks no longer work. They don't have spare parts
Starting point is 00:25:57 for their tanks. They're running out of ammunition. Their leadership is frayed. The morale of the men is low. And now you expect them to be thrown into battle against a highly trained fanatical force like Hezbollah that is ready for this fight, has been preparing for this fight for over a decade and will take this fight to Israel. Israel thinks that this fight is going to be fought in southern Lebanon as they seek to push Hezbollah back to the Latani River. This fight will be fought in Galilee as Hezbollah comes in with tens of thousands of highly trained troops who are prepared to take the fight to Israeli towns, Israeli villages. Israel can't win this fight. They will lose this fight. Has the United States ordered the deployment of 5,000 Marines to the Middle East? They have, but four or 5,000, yes. What are they going to do are they are they're not going to engage in a ground war are they not a damn thing no 5 000 marines is insufficient forces to do anything of significance on the ground other than um uh you know neo
Starting point is 00:26:56 operation which is a um a rescue operation if you have to pull americans out of israel or out of lebanon um out of harm's way. The Marines have contingencies where they can go in, they can secure a zone, usually in a permissive environment, but in some cases, a non-permissive environment, and get American citizens out of that and then withdraw them out of the area. But in terms of a sustained presence on the ground, a meaningful presence, 5,000 Marines simply isn't enough. Here's Prime Minister Netanyahu, in my view, at his worst when he was speaking before Congress, even attacking, if you will, the First Amendment. I'd like you to watch this and listen to it. Maybe you've seen it before. And then I'm going to ask you, he's a maniac.
Starting point is 00:27:47 What is his real goal in all of this? But first, the clip. For all we know, Iran is funding the anti-Israel protests that are going on right now outside this building. Not that many, but they're there and throughout the city. Well, I have a message for these protesters. When the tyrants of Tehran, who hang gays from cranes and murder women for not covering their hair, are praising, promoting, and funding you,
Starting point is 00:28:16 you have officially become Iran's useful idiots. Three of those demonstrators are regular contributors to this show. Max Blumenthal, Aaron Maté, and Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson. I asked them, were you guys funded by Iran? There were 50,000 to 100,000 of you. Was there the slightest whiff of Iranian money funding you to go there? No, no, and no. Yeah, no. Look, you don't have to agree. I happen to agree with, I'm good friends with Max and Aaron,
Starting point is 00:28:53 and I know Colonel Wilkerson, and I agree with what they're demonstrating in support of. But you don't have to agree with them. If you're a representative of the United States of America, as all those people who are in the Congress applauding Benjamin Netanyahu, a foreigner, by the way, who was attacking Americans for carrying out their First Amendment rights of freedom of speech and freedom of assembly. If you're a member of Congress, your duty is to uphold and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. And I would say that Benjamin Netanyahu standing in the People's House addressing Congress, condemning those Americans who are doing their duty as they saw fit, protected under the First Amendment, that he is the literal definition on the part of the United States Congress. You know, freedom of speech isn't about supporting the speech that you agree with. It's about supporting all speech, whether you agree with it or not, especially if you don't agree with it, because that's when it needs to be defended, because there's a
Starting point is 00:29:57 temptation to say, shut it down, close them out, shut them up. No, you never shut them up. If you don't like what someone's saying, come up with better ideas, say it better, debate them, but don't shut them up. No, you never shut them up. If you don't like what someone's saying, come up with better ideas, say it better, debate them, but don't shut them down. Benjamin Netanyahu is an enemy of America, but even more so every single one of those congressional representatives and senators who applauded that, they're enemies of America as well. They're not representing the American people. They're not preserving, protecting, and defending the Constitution. One Republican, Thomas Massey, didn't show.
Starting point is 00:30:29 A hundred Democrats didn't show, even though many of them have voted to give Netanyahu whatever he wants. Where do you see this going? Could this war involve Russia and China in a physical way with troops, with planes, with ships? I don't believe so. I mean, there's always that possibility. You never know where something's going to go once it starts. The danger is that this could turn into a general war between Russia and Iran. If Russia starts providing Iran with military equipment- But you said a war between Russia and Iran. If Russia starts providing Iran with military equipment- You said a war between Russia and Iran.
Starting point is 00:31:08 I'm sorry. I mean, between Israel and Iran. If Russia has this agreement, it can't back away, meaning it will continue to support Iran. It won't allow Iran to be strategically defeated. If the United States has a similar agreement with Israel, where it won't allow Israel to be strategically defeated, we now have the potential of Russia and the United States facing off against each other in this regional way. Now, the United States and Russia have been doing so over Syria for, you know, over closing on 10 years. And we have deconfliction methodologies established where we talk to one another and we know how to avoid a conflict. But would we be able to do that if it involved Israel and Iran? It's just dangerous. We don't want to head in this direction where we have to ask that question. I prefer to know the answer, which is no no we're not going to allow that situation to devolve but once you get into a general shooting war um you you know you can't predict
Starting point is 00:32:11 the outcome and that's that's a very dangerous thing i want to switch gears for just a minute before we conclude uh scott uh you'll know who this is and what he's crowing about. Chris, would you run cut number one and cut number two back to back, please? Jets are in our sky, and officially today you see them, and it's good that they came and we can use them. We had hundreds of meetings and talks to strengthen the capabilities of our aviation, to strengthen the capabilities of our air defense system, of our defense forces. We often heard it is impossible as an answer, but we still made our ambition, our defensive need possible. Now this is reality, reality in our skies. F-16s are in Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:33:10 What value are those F-16s to Ukraine? Propaganda value. It's important propaganda value. You see the Ukrainian president talking about it. We've seen two fly. Reports indicate that up to 10 may have been delivered um they seem to be configured in air-to-air mode with amran missiles sort of longer range missiles shorter range sidewinder missiles and then they have a israeli infrared electron or infrared detection device uh pod put on there as well so they appear to be in an air-to-air combat configuration. So if he says they've been used, it would be to patrol airspace in and around the airfields that they're at. Two seem to fly over the city of Odessa, again, for morale purposes,
Starting point is 00:33:58 to say, hey, we're here. But if they tangle with the russians the russians will shoot them down and again um the f-16 needs pristine airfields the russians will find where these airfields are and they will destroy them or damage them and it's just it's purely a propaganda play i don't know how well did the f-16 scott well the ones that they're the apparently that they have are Danish F-16s and they could be approaching four decades. And they've been, you know, they've gone through a life upgrade, a midlife upgrade, but their airframes are just too old right now. They can't take high stress maneuvers. You can't overload them with weapons and put them into a high G turn. The airframes, these are airplanes that these NATO countries gave up because they had passed
Starting point is 00:34:52 their useful life expectancy. And there may have been some tinkering with electronics and things of that nature, but these are not combat worthy aircraft. They wouldn't be allowed to fly in any NATO air force. And we gave them to the Ukrainians. And again, they're just there for propaganda purposes. Scott Ritter, thank you very much, my dear friend. Oh, your book that I endorsed that you spoke about in New York City yesterday, which I regrettably was unable to attend. Tell us about it. Well, the book's called Covering Ukraine. It's basically a book that's based upon select questions and answers that come from a body of two years' worth of interviews that I did with Ania Kay. Many of your viewers might be familiar with her.'s a polish-born podcaster um and uh you know
Starting point is 00:35:46 we we have done interviews since the beginning of this conflict and um when my editor asked me to put together a book about the ukraine conflict um i i said maybe the best thing to do is just to tap into the data that we already have and um and we did we put together it's a it's a concise book but a very comprehensive book that covers the conflict from the beginning up until may of this year um it's uh it's a great primer for people to dig into the various uh you know effects of this con of this conflict of you know russian policy nato potential nuclear conflict. All of it's addressed in 19 questions and 19 answers. At the end of each chapter, each question and answer is a chapter. There's a QR code that people can use their cell phones and access the actual interview itself. So
Starting point is 00:36:39 it's a multimedia book. You don't just get to read it you get to see the interviews of it i will tell uh my viewers having read it in order to write the blurb that i did even though you and i are very good friends the book is a masterpiece it's ritter at its best at his best it's everything you need to know about ukraine that you won't learn from anywhere other than scott ritter and i highly recommend uh it's uh it's purchase and reading you will not be disappointed scott my dear friend thank you very much i know we went a little bit longer than i thought we would but there's so many topics to cover uh and you're so good to share your knowledge on all of them. All my best to you. Thank you. Of course. Wow. A great man and a great conversation. Coming up tomorrow, we have a full day for you. At 11 o'clock in the morning, Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson. At two in the afternoon,
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