Judging Freedom - SPECIAL EDITION : SCOTT RITTER : Israel Strikes Iran - LIVE UPDATES

Episode Date: June 13, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 you Hi, everyone. Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom. Today is Friday, June 13th, to Friday, the 13th, Friday, June 13th, 2025. Welcome to this special edition. It's six o'clock in the morning here on the East Coast of the United States. I'm deeply grateful because there isn't anyone on the planet with whom I would rather be discussing and analyzing for my audience what is happening in Israel and in Iran than the person now sharing the screen with me,
Starting point is 00:01:04 the great Scott Ritter. Scott, thank you very much for your time. Thanks for being up at this hour. Thank you for your thoughts, which I have seen in summary form. Let's get right to it. What happened last night? What did the Israelis do? What did they attack? What did they achieve? Well, what happened last night was the modern day equivalent of a Pearl Harbor for Iran. It was a surprise attack by Israel, supported by the United States. The goal was to threefold. First of all, to carry out the equivalent of the pager attack against Hezbollah meaning a decisive strike to eliminate senior leadership and middle management
Starting point is 00:01:50 of Iran's nuclear program and Iran's ballistic missile program and the decision circles related to Iran's ability to launch a retaliatory strike against Israel. So it was a decapitation strike. Two, they cleared out Iran's air defense system to create the sense of vulnerability upon surviving Iranians, meaning that there's no longer an Iranian air defense system that's intact, capable of defending Iran's strategic targets or defending Iran's leadership. And then three, they carried out decisive actions against important technological nodes
Starting point is 00:02:43 that are related to Iran's nuclear program and Iran's ballistic missile program to include operational bases of Iran's ballistic missile forces. And this was done deliberately. This wasn't a war-winning strike, meaning Iran still retains significant capability. This was a strike designed to draw Iran into a deeper, more existential struggle. This is a war of survival between Israel and Iran. This is a strike that's designed to create the circumstances under which the United States will have no choice but to intervene on Iran's side, which is necessary if you're going to bring an end to the Islamic Republic
Starting point is 00:03:26 of Iran, which is Iran's side. You mean on Israel's side? On Israel's side, I'm sorry. Yes, on Israel's side. Right, right, right. So was the damage significant? Did it impair Iran's offensive capability? What kind of a retaliation can we expect?
Starting point is 00:03:50 We will find out. Iran has maintained that its ballistic missile forces are resilient, that they are spread out, and they are invulnerable to this kind of preemptive strike. It's clear that Israel has struck some of these underground facilities that Iran has built. Israel also apparently took out a number of Iran's ready forces, that is ballistic missile launch capability that had been pre-deployed, pre-positioned for immediate retaliation. It appears that these had been identified and struck by Israel, which is one of the reasons why we haven't seen an immediate Iranian response
Starting point is 00:04:31 with missiles is that they are apparently in the process of evaluating what damage has been done and trying to assemble the forces necessary to carry out a retaliation. But look, this was a very, very thorough attack by Israel, and it did significant damage to Iran. What is Israel's true goal here? Actually, before that, this was just posted by the President of the United States a few minutes ago, and I'll read it since this is posting on his own website.
Starting point is 00:05:07 I gave Iran chance after chance to make a deal. I told them in the strongest of terms to just do it. But no matter how hard they tried, no matter how close they got, they just couldn't get it done. I told them it would be much worse than anything they know anticipated or were told, that the United States makes the best and most lethal military equipment anywhere in the world by far in caps, and that Israel has a lot of it with much more to come, and they know how to use it. Certain Iranian hardliners spoke bravely, but they didn't know what was about to happen.
Starting point is 00:05:46 They're all dead now, and it will only get worse. There has already been great death and destruction, but there is still time to make this slaughter with the... I can't read anymore, Chris. Is there more to this? Okay. I'm sorry. My mouse is in the way here. Hold on. I'll finish reading it. And they know how to use it. Certain Iranian hardliners spoke bravely, but they didn't know what was about to happen. They're all dead and it will only get worse. There has already been great death and destruction, but there is still time to make this slaughter with the next already planned attacks being even more brutal come to an end. Iran must make a deal before there is nothing left and save what was once known as the Iranian Empire. No more death or destruction. Just do it before it is too late.
Starting point is 00:06:45 God bless you all. I was going to ask you if the United States authorized this and notwithstanding what Trump said publicly many times, it's according to this, the United States did. Not just authorized it, judge. We are, we planned it. This is a joint plan between the United States and Israel that's been in the works for
Starting point is 00:07:07 over a year, continuously updated with intelligence. What the president just did here is undermine American legitimacy, credibility, and shows that America is incapable of serious diplomatic engagement. If I were a Russian, if I were a Chinese diplomat, if I were anybody in the world, If I were a Russian, if I were a Chinese diplomat, if I were anybody in the world, what this proves is that America is a two-faced liar and Donald Trump is a two-faced liar. He's been promoting a negotiation track with Iran he was never serious about. There can be no doubt now, no doubt, Judge, that the United States and Israel conspired to make this attack happen. If you take a look at, you
Starting point is 00:07:45 know, the recent statements made prior to this attack where Trump was saying, you know, the sixth round on Sunday is critical. This is where we have to make a deal, make or break. And the Israelis said we will withhold any decision about an attack until after Sunday, until after we see what's going on. And the Iranians were preparing for a decisive round of negotiations. The Iranians were serious about negotiating. The United States wasn't. What this shows is that the surprise attack by Israel
Starting point is 00:08:12 was part of a concerted effort by the United States and Israel to lull Iran into a false sense of complacency, exposing itself, making it vulnerable for the very attack that took place. The notion that the United States was not cognizant of this is absurd. It just been proven to be a lie by the president's own tweet. This tweet condemns the president of the United States.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Wow. How, uh, do we know how extensive the damage was and whether Iran is able to retaliate? Well, Iran's abilities to, um, you know, every nation is vulnerable to some extent to an attack of this nature, meaning that we, every nation has facilities above ground that aren't hardened, and so therefore they're able to be struck and destroyed. And it appears that Israel has taken out a number of these vulnerable sites. What made Iran different was its ability to put significant infrastructure underground, and we don't know yet to what extent the underground infrastructure was damaged or destroyed
Starting point is 00:09:20 by Israel. And so it's a wait-and-see moment. My feeling is that much of Iran's underground infrastructure survived and that Iran right now is in the process of redefining its leadership, putting in a new level of command and control to replace the senior leaders who were killed, senior leaders who were killed and, you know, and counting this resource, they knew such an attack was possible. And so, you know, they have hopefully planned, hopefully from an Iranian perspective, planned accordingly and will have the ability to retaliate. If not, then this is just another example of Israel
Starting point is 00:09:59 knowing their enemy better than the enemy knows itself. You know, what Israel did to Hezbollah, what Israel did to Syria, this is what Israel has tried to do today to, or yes last night, to Iran. You know we'll find out how successful it is in the coming hours. Is this a military assault still going on as we speak? It's noon in the Middle East, it's 6 a.m. here on the East Coast of the United States It's happening right now my understanding is that strategic Targets inside Iran are being attacked by Israel Shiraz
Starting point is 00:10:38 Where you know home has been attacked airfields are being attacked I believe that there's going to be a second round of decapitation strikes that the Israelis are gonna continue to hunt down and kill Iranian leadership. If you remember when Nasrallah was murdered, assassinated by Israel, that they immediately followed up and killed the people that came into his position after. The Israelis, and it's something I warned about,
Starting point is 00:11:03 there's a gentleman, Professor Morande, who has been out speaking on behalf of the Iranian government, or at least speaking in defense of the Iranian government's policies. And I had an interesting conversation with him a while back where I said, look, the first Israeli attack will be done by drones. It will be decapitation strike. And they've proven that capability by assassinating Haneeah on the inauguration day in Tehran. How did that drone get into Tehran? And he said, well, we're not worried about that.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Well, worry about it because that just happened. All your air defense was taken out. Your senior leadership was decapitated. And this isn't the first round. I believe that Israeli drones will continue to operate, continue to hunt down people. This is an ongoing activity. Israel says that this will continue for days, if not weeks,
Starting point is 00:11:57 a relentless assault against Iran. So now we have to find out how well-prepared Iran is to receive this attack and be able to retaliate. You keep using the word decapitate. Was the president of Iran killed? Was the Ayatollah killed? You're talking about that level of people or are you talking about military and intelligence and scientific people?
Starting point is 00:12:23 We know that the Ayatollah was not killed because the supreme leader has issued a statement. So he obviously is alive or somebody speaking on his stead. I don't know where the Iranian president is. That would be the last person I would strike if I were the Israelis because the Iranian president has always been opposed to a conflict with Israel. I guess the Israelis are hopeful that, you know, he will now, now that they've eliminated, what they killed was the senior Revolutionary Guard leadership. These are the people who were proposing a strike against Israel.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Every single senior Iranian military leader who was talking about True Promise 3 that need to strike, they're dead. Now they've been replaced by other people, but the Israelis, I would imagine, would be seeking to hunt these people down and kill them as well. The idea is to eliminate those voices that were articulating strongly within Iran's senior circles about the need for delivering you know, delivering a decisive blow against Israel and keep alive those people who would argue against that, argue for the survival of Iran's economy. This is the Israelis came out today and said, you know, let us destroy, it was an amazing statement, let us destroy your nuclear infrastructure without retaliation and we won't touch your your oil
Starting point is 00:13:46 You know your oil infrastructure, but if you retaliate against us, we'll take out your oil So what Israel's saying is that they are going to put the global economy at risk because the first time Israel strikes Iran's Iran's oil infrastructure the Iranians have promised a devastating response to the regional oil infrastructure, meaning that Iran isn't going to be allow itself to be in a position where, you know, it alone loses, you know, income generation from oil they will seek to strike. Now whether Iran can follow through with this is another question, but Israel's playing a very, very dangerous game right now. You and your colleagues on the show told us for a long time that the Iranian nuclear
Starting point is 00:14:32 facilities, enrichment and whatever else accompanies that were safely underground. Did the Israelis somehow penetrate that? I believe not. Firdos is still intact. I mean, this is the stupidity of the Israeli action. Because facilities like Fairdose are underground in that facility, there are significant enrichment capabilities, modern modern centrifuges configured in cascades that could enrich the 60% enrichment into weapons-grade uranium. Unless Israel figured a way to get humans inside. And again, you can never write the Mossad off and its abilities, but to get humans inside or to get a virus inside, similar to Stuknik's, the idea that Israel could strike with non-nuclear weapons,
Starting point is 00:15:31 Firdos and take it out, or some of the others. There's the third facility that Iran was getting ready to bring up to speed. I don't think these facilities are struck. There are people who are saying that even the underground aspects of the Natanz facility, which was heavily struck, Natanz is the Iran's initial enrichment facility. You know, the above ground features of Natanz appear to have been struck and eliminated and based upon videos that I've watched, Israel was hitting the above ground targets with bombs designed to create massive overpressure.
Starting point is 00:16:08 So you strike, overpressure, collapse. That was their intent. But there are some people, including the IAEA, that have suggested that the underground aspects of Iran's Natanz facility have not been destroyed. There's been no detection of radiation out of Natanz, which one would expect if if you collapsed a centrifuge cascade that was actively involved in enriching uranium. Do we know if any American personnel participated in in
Starting point is 00:16:39 this? I'm not talking about Intel, but I'm talking about military or, you know, fighter pilots, anything like that. I don't believe there was any American involvement in this. And that was, I mean, in terms of the active involvement, because that's part of the ploy. This was supposed to be presented as an Israeli-only strike, that Israel had no choice but to undertake this action. And so the United States is trying to distance itself because we are in a very vulnerable position here. We have tens of thousands of American troops deployed
Starting point is 00:17:17 in the region who have no air defense, by the way, if Iran were to strike. And so I believe that the idea was to make the Iranians focus solely on Israel in terms of retaliation. But again, I believe that this plan has always been designed to get America drawn into this conflict. Right now, we are looking at the Iranian response. What will it be? Will it be limited to Israel? Will it include strikes as Iran has promised against American military installations in the region? Will Iran preemptively take out the oil production? So you see the Saudis, Omanis, everybody in the region
Starting point is 00:17:58 condemning the Israeli actions saying we had nothing to do with this because they don't want Iran to launch a retaliation. So But no, I think the United States, you know didn't have its fighter aircraft participate But the president just condemned himself We have provided Israel with the weapons that were used to target Iranian leadership and Iranian infrastructure We did this he said we are the ones who did this. The Israeli proxy used the weapons we provided to do this against targets we were knowledgeable of, meaning we provided weapons to Israel for the expected purpose of assassinating Iranian leadership. The president is bragging about removing these people. I mean, come on, judge. people. I mean, come on, judge. I mean, removing the people with whom he was, not directly, negotiating. Apparently, he didn't talk to his secretary of state. Here's what Marco Rubio said last night. Tonight, Israel took unilateral action against Iran. We are not involved in strikes against Iran and our top priorities protecting American forces in the
Starting point is 00:19:04 region. Israel advised us that they believe this action was necessary for its self-defense. President Trump and the administration have taken all necessary steps to protect our forces and remain in close contact with our regional partners. Let me be clear. Iran should not target U.S. interests or personnel. This is directly contrary to what the president just wrote. Look, Judge, you heard Judge. If I came forward and tried to present this defense, and then the prosecutor put the president's statement up there, how's my defense looking?
Starting point is 00:19:38 Not very good. That's right. As I hear you, I hear you saying that the goal here was not so much the destruction of Iranian nuclear capability as it was regime change. I've always said that. I said that to Miranda. I've said that to everybody else. If this crosses over into an actual conflict, this will be a regime change operation.
Starting point is 00:20:07 I've said that from day one, that it will begin with a decapitation strike. I've said that all along, that when this begins, it's a decapitation strike. If the goal was to destroy Iran's buried nuclear infrastructure, you can only do that with nuclear weapons. Maybe Israel gave it a shot with some non-nuclear weapons, but you can't take Firdos out in a non-nuclear strike. And so now, you know, what the
Starting point is 00:20:36 Israelis appear to be doing is, again, we have to set this up. One of the reasons why Israel did this at this time, and again, it's something I've been warning the Iranians about, do not declare yourself to be a threshold state. There's no legal legitimacy to being a nuclear threshold state, a nuclear weapons threshold state when you are a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. If you say that we don't have nuclear weapons, we're not pursuing nuclear weapons, but in a matter of days, we could have nuclear weapons if you're a nuclear weapons state. And Iran had been making statements for this, you know, about this. And the Israelis had intelligence that the Iranians were getting ready to open up a third enrichment facility underground that would be dedicated to upping
Starting point is 00:21:23 Iran's enrichment, which the Iranians said we will be doing. There's something we haven't mentioned, Judge, that's very important, and that's the role of the International Atomic Energy Agency and all of this. You know, I will tell you, as a former UN weapons inspector in Iraq, that when you have foreign inspectors gain access to sensitive facilities, very important data that pertains to targeting is collected and sent back to the nations involved. Grosse and the IAEA have been in Israel's pocket from day one. Everything the IAEA inspectors see inside Iran has been taken back and turned over to the Israelis and it was incorporated into their targeting. So the IAEA has been condemned as an organization. Moreover, politically, the IAEA, together with the United States, Great Britain, and Europe, helped legitimize the Israeli actions by issuing a Board of governors report which for the first time in 20 years said
Starting point is 00:22:25 Iran is no longer complying with its non-proliferation obligations. It's an absurd report that falls apart upon close examination but they created the political legitimacy for Israel's actions. So Israel carried out a strike that was designed to disrupt Iran in this transition period. But this isn't about Iran's nuclear infrastructure in isolation. This is a broader campaign designed to bring down the Islamic Republic because the Israelis recognize that Iran's ability
Starting point is 00:22:58 to enrich uranium can't be struck in a non-nuclear fashion, that it resides in the brains of its senior leadership, the senior scientists. But ultimately, the only way to end Iran's nuclear potential is to end the Islamic Republic of Iran. And so we are in an existential war of survival between Iran and Israel right now. Did Israel sign, I think the answer to this is no, the non-proliferation treaty? No, Israel's not a signatory, Israel doesn't respect it. I mean the absurdity of the IAEA giving Israel an audience, I mean it happened when I was a weapons
Starting point is 00:23:37 inspector, you know, we were sitting there going after Iraq saying, you know, you're a signatory, you're not allowed a nuclear weapons program, all of which is true. Meanwhile, we have Israel behind us going, going in harder, get them, inspect this, do this, that. And it's like, aren't you guys not only aren't signatories, you have a nuclear weapons program that's, you know, exists in violation of law, but nobody is willing to call Israel out on that.
Starting point is 00:24:02 You know, and that's one of the ultimate hypocrisies here is that Israel, a nuclear power which operates outside of the framework of international law, is participating in unlawful. I mean, everything Israel just did here is illegal. That's the other thing no one's talking about. This is an illegal war of aggression. This is Pearl Harbor. This is this is not a lawful war Israel didn't declare war This is a surprise attack against the sovereign state without any legitimacy under international law whatsoever and yet people were saying well You know Israel had every right to do this you have Europe coming out We defend Israel's right to defend you know to to you know preserve its existential right to do this. You have Europe coming out. We defend Israel's right to defend, you know, to, to, you know, preserve its existential right to exist. Okay, you just proved, you just said you approve of a surprise attack against a sovereign state without any foundation in international law to support it.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Characterized beautifully the nature and extent of the damage and the killing. The unlawful nature of it. A United States Senator from South Carolina thinks it's a game. Senator Lindsey Graham game on. Pray for Israel. What a despicable statement to make no matter which side you're on in this. This is not a game. Well, it is to him. It is to Tom Cotton. It is to Marco Rubio.
Starting point is 00:25:30 It is to everybody in Washington, DC. This is the great game. I mean, it's, it's the ultimate game for America because again, what we've done is shape a situation where Israel and Iran are fighting and we're out of it. You know, not, not, not directly involved. I, I believe it's inevitable judge that we're out of it, you know, not directly involved. I believe it's inevitable, Judge, that we will get drawn into this conflict on the side of Israel as part of a joint strategic objective of destroying the Iranian regime. This is a regime change operation. The president can't be trusted in anything he says.
Starting point is 00:26:03 He keeps talking about how he wants Iran to trade, we wanna have relations. Meanwhile, he's working with the CIA. I just wanna remind people the CIA has this little thing called, it used to be called the Iran Mission Center, but the CIA's job has always been regime change in Iran. By the way, it's job in Russia is regime change too. Keep that in mind when we talk about American diplomacy
Starting point is 00:26:23 in Russia. This has destroyed the credibility of the United States across the entire world. We can never be trusted to be a broker for peace, a broker for conflict resolution. We have a secret program to bring down regimes, and that's what's taking place right now with Iran. This is a regime change operation using an Israeli proxy. So the anti-war president who attacked the neocons when he was speaking in Saudi Arabia last month for wanting to use force to bring about regime change continues to fund the slaughter in Gaza, continues
Starting point is 00:27:08 to fund the hopeless, hapless Ukrainians, and now boasts about and unleashes this kind of an attack on Iran. Some anti-war president we have No, this is the most pro-war president out there these duplicitous he's a liar. Um, I Mean, you know, I can understand people, you know, you always hedge your bets, you know But you know his whole concept, you know peace through strength But the strength that he implies is lethal action that's always threatened out there.
Starting point is 00:27:52 If you're threatening lethal action, that means you've prepared for lethal action. And I'm just here to tell you that if you do enough preparation for lethal action at some point in time, that becomes an inevitable outcome, meaning you're not giving peace a legitimate chance. You've prepared so much for war so that war becomes the only option.
Starting point is 00:28:10 And that's this president. I mean, hypothetically, if Iran had complied with everything we asked for, could we have avoided this? No. Why? Israel. Israel wants regime change in Iran. That's it. They view the Iranian regime as an existential threat. And the United States is a supporter of Israel's strategic objectives, and we share that objective.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Until which time the president issues a finding that says that we no longer are seeking regime change, the CIA and other U.S. entities are working with Israel to achieve just that, and we're seeing it play out today live and technicolor. In the Middle East, there are 90,000, 90,000 American troops spread across a variety, you've told us they're spread across a variety of locations. Should we expect a false flag? Israel attacks the American troops, claims it was Iran, and Trump unleashes them.
Starting point is 00:29:10 First of all, unleashing 90,000 troops. That's, I just want to remind people, you know, Desert Storm took 750,000 troops. Even Iraqi Freedom took several hundred thousand troops. Ninety thousand is enough to be unleashed. Most of those ninety thousand in the support role, logistics role, maintenance role, they're not front line combat troops. So you're not unleashing anything. Second of all, there's no need for a false flag. Israel just attacked Iran in the United States is complicit in it. The fault is Israel doesn't need to attack American.
Starting point is 00:29:45 They've created the conditions that will have Iran attack the American installations and draw the United States in. You know, again, the foreign minister of Iran has come out and said, we blame the United States. This attack couldn't have taken place without the United States. So, you know, the Iranians have already articulated just cause for launching a retaliation against these American facilities. Now, whether or not they do that or not, this is the great Israeli-American gamble. You know,
Starting point is 00:30:16 they tried to silence those voices that articulated in favor of this kind of retaliation, striking not just Israel but American facilities. They kept alive those voices in Iran who articulate against this action. And what they've tried to do now is create the conditions in which there's now a debate taking place inside Iran about what the next step should be. And, you know, trying to confront Iran with a scenario where the people who advocate for conflict are saying, yeah, but all those capabilities we thought we had no longer exist because they blew up this base, they blew up this base, they got these missiles,
Starting point is 00:30:54 it's gonna take us a week to reassemble. And then the people advocating for non-confrontation will say, yes, but now the continued waves come in and eventually they're gonna take out our oil infrastructure and that'll set us back, you know five decades There's a debate taking place inside Iran right now. That's that's what the Israeli American action was supposed to do There's a huge psychological component to everything Israel does we saw that with how they behaved with Hezbollah We saw that how they behaved with with Syria. You know, many of us are looking for purely at the kinetics, you know, where the bombs are hitting, etc. But these bombs, when
Starting point is 00:31:32 they hit, are designed to achieve a psychological impact inside Iran. There's a reason why they killed the senior Iranian Revolutionary Guard Command leadership. Those, those were the voices that most loudly and strongly advocated for a conflict with Israel. And there's a reason why they left intact those voices around the Iranian president, because those are the voices that advocate for something different. And the whole purpose was to create confusion inside Iran, to get Iranians to turn on themselves. I don't know if they're going to be successful or not. I have a funny feeling that the Iranians to turn on themselves. I don't know if they're gonna be successful or not. I have a funny feeling that the Iranians are far more resilient than the Israelis thought,
Starting point is 00:32:08 but we can't call the Israelis stupid. We can't call the Israelis ill-informed. They study their target. Look how they infiltrated Hezbollah. How they got into the inner workings. They were able to get the pagers in there. They were able to assassinate leaders. That's because the Israelis are pretty damn good at what they do.
Starting point is 00:32:29 I would imagine that Israel has infiltrated Iran significantly to have all the information they have about where these guys live, where they are, how they're home. And that's something the Iranians have to look at, too. How did this attack take place? How was this targeting so effective because much of this target is based upon real-time intelligence? How did the Israelis collect this intelligence? and if you can't answer that question that means that you are vulnerable for the next round of Decapitation the president has of the United States is articulated clearly the the assassination of senior Iranian leadership has always been part of this game plan Always been part of this game plan. So this is a as I said, we're in a very dangerous situation right now Scott writer. Thank you. My dear friend, you know, it's early in the morning. The Sun isn't even up here yet We have been able to benefit from your analysis. The audience is enormous and of course it will
Starting point is 00:33:27 grow in by many times over the weekend. Thank you very much Scott. All the best to you. Thanks, Scott. Sure. Wow. I'm deeply grateful for Scott's analysis at this time of day and for all of you that are watching and will be watching throughout the weekend. Coming up at 8 o'clock this morning, an hour and a half from now, on all of this, Professor Jeffrey Sachs. At 2 o'clock this afternoon on all of this, Professor John Mearsheimer. At 4 o'clock this afternoon on all of this, the Intelligence Community Roundtable with Larry Johnson and Ray McGovern. And at 4.30 this afternoon on all of this, we haven't heard from him this week,
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