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you Hi everyone, Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom.
Today is Tuesday, March 18, 2025.
Patrick Lancaster, the Patrick Lancaster, joins us now from of all places, the Kursk
region of Russia. Patrick, I don't know how you do it, but you're still in one piece.
God bless you. Thank you. Thank you very much for joining us. You have been in Kursk, in
the Kursk region, in probably the most dramatic time since the Ukrainian invasion.
Tell us what happened. Tell us what you saw. Tell us what you know.
Hi, Judge. Thanks for having me again. It's always great to be able to tell the world something that they're not going to see in other places
because unfortunately, as we know, the mainstream media doesn't really wanna show
all of the facts, just their half that support their narrative.
But I like to show the other parts
and we can do that together, it's great.
So yes, I've been here in the Kursk region
on the front line on and off since Ukraine
made the incursion or invasion in August. It came right
away in August, documented the initial loss of territory from Russian forces up to over 1500
square kilometers as we know, but I documented right away Russia starting to take control of
But I documented right away Russia starting to take control of that territory back in August.
And with the assault groups, the storm groups, as they call them, of Russian forces to document them literally the moment they took land and territory back from Ukrainian control.
And in addition to August, I came in January to show the progression because from August on, Russia started taking more and more territory back from Ukraine.
And now I'm back here. I've been here for just over a week because 10 days ago, Russian forces completed an operation that purportedly had been underway for several months where they literally went,
hundreds of Russian soldiers went through gas pipes that were to move gas from one place to another
and crawled through these pipes under the Ukrainian defensive lines and
collapsed the Ukrainian defenses when they basically just popped up behind as
they would call enemy lines and they came out and just decimated the
Ukrainian lines which started a domino effect and they just pushed Ukrainian forces back almost completely out of the Kursk region at an extremely fast pace.
I've been here, as I said, for just over a week and just every day they've been pushing more and more and more. I've been in the city of Suzya, which was the basically stronghold of Ukrainian forces
in the Kursk region. And I've documented how that's fully under control by Russian forces and has
been for several days. I've gone through all of the other villages around this so-called former Ukrainian stronghold and documented just the atrocities and decimation
of these civilian homes there. And of course back in January I documented how I, with
Russian soldiers, found several elderly people executed, you could say, by what for all intents
of purposes had to have been Ukrainian soldiers
throwing grenades down into a bomb shelter that these elderly people were trying to seek shelter in
during the active points of the battles. Just from several killed civilians.
And of course we can never forget the family
who unfortunately the mother of this family,
the husband of, or the wife of the husband I spoke to,
she was shot by a Ukrainian soldier as they tried
to escape on August 5th from the encroaching Ukrainian forces.
And he explained how the Ukrainian soldier saw his eyes
and saw that he was a civilian
and still opened fire on him and his family,
killing his pregnant wife
and injuring their two-year-old son.
But the situation, as I said, on the ground right now is Russia is just pushing
very fast to get Ukrainian forces out of Kursk. There was a time when there was an encirclement
of thousands of Ukrainians, and then there was a corridor that was broken and many of them escaped but still on a daily basis
There are many ukrainian soldiers getting captured and of course dying unfortunately
and this is
The fact of the war now now they're even in areas of the city suzhen other areas
There's still small groups of suspected ukrain Ukrainian soldiers hiding in basements and things like this.
So these areas I'm going to are not completely clear yet, as they say, as the Russian soldiers say.
There's still a lot of danger from sabotage groups and other things. Or let me see if I can ask some precise questions. Have you come across any foreign troops in
Kursk fighting with the Ukrainians, that is non-Ukrainians, whether American, British,
German, Latin Americans, Polish, and others from the Russian soldiers.
As far as seeing them with my own eyes, I've seen many, many dead Ukrainian soldiers that possibly could have been foreign but we don't know.
I'm not going to go through their pockets and check for their passports.
But the roads are littered with dead soldiers.
And I've spoken to these Russian soldiers about this and they pointed out that Putin has made a comment saying
foreign mercenaries are not covered under the Geneva
Convention.
And as far as the Russian soldiers are concerned, they're willing to take Ukrainians as POWs,
but they're not interested in taking foreign fighters as POWs.
So we can assume that means the foreign fighters are going to get executed.
Well, they're correct.
The Russians are correct
under the Geneva Conventions and under international law. If you're fighting in a war zone and you're
not wearing a uniform, you do not have the protections of the Geneva Convention. I want
to play one other thing. I'd like to add on that specific subject, judge, if you don't
mind. Go ahead. As far as the foreign fighters, as many may
know, many may not, is not long ago, I believe just under a month ago, there was a, what Russia
called a foreign mercenary, a soldier, he said he was a volunteer, but from England. And he was actually just sentenced to 19 years in prison for terrorism in the Kursk region.
He was captured by Russian forces and taken as a captive and went through a Russian trial
in Russian courts and found guilty of terrorism and now is serving his 19-year sentence. So
it seems like Russia is not playing around with foreign fighters right now.
Wow. Probably 19 years at hard labor. Just a suggestion that I make from my rudimentary
knowledge of the Russian penal system. You sent us a clip, Patrick, of rescued
ethnic Russians held by Ukrainians in Kursk. Now before we run the clip, just
tell us what we're about to see. Who are these people? Where did you find them and
how did you interview them? Well, I was with a group of soldiers in one of the
bases just before we were going to
go forward to the front line.
We were near Suzya, when Suzya was still not confirmed as being fully under control of
Russian forces.
And I was with a special forces group of Russian soldiers called the Akhmat Special Forces.
And I was actually there with these soldiers with surprisingly their general,
the Russian Lieutenant General, the general in charge of the Akhmat Special Forces,
came into the room with these civilians that were rescued by Russian forces in the city of Suzya, residents of Suzya that
had been living under, as they called it, Ukrainian occupation for the last seven months.
And they told several horrible stories.
I believe the clip we're going to see is where this woman explains how her and her husband's home was purposely burned on the Russian
holiday police day because Russians have many holidays for different things,
Teacher's Day, this happened to be Police Day, and she said the Ukrainian
soldiers found his uniform and figured out that he was a retired
major from the Russian police and burned their home and displayed his uniform in front of
the home.
Just to show what they did.
We're going to play the clip.
It looks like it might be in a basement and it looks like you're interviewing them.
And of course, Chris has translated everything.
Chris, Lancaster cut number one
my daughter's calling she didn't know we were alive my dear we're coming home we're coming home
I didn't know whether you were alive for over a month We're OK.
I love you.
You've said Ukrainians burned your house deliberately, right?
Burned our house?
Certainly.
It was on purpose.
Because they found my husband's uniform.
He's a police officer, a retired major.
That was a crime for sure. They found his uniform and burned the house on police day.
Did it happen multiple times?
Did you see the same happening again?
We were not in the house at the moment.
So those are Russian people in Russia, in Kursk, whose region was occupied by the invading
Ukrainian soldiers since August, it's now March.
They burnt this couple's house because they discovered that the male of the couple was
a retired police major, we're talking about a local police department.
Do I have that correct?
Yes.
Is that common for the occupiers, the Ukrainians, to do that to the locals?
We have heard many stories from the civilians. I've been spending a lot of time with the military
forces who have been showing us the active battle in the actual active areas. But another thing that
we heard from other civilians is how the Ukrainian forces just came in and stole everything, looted everything,
just massive looting. They said they even stole the children's toys. And there were every grocery
store and product store in Kursk has been vandalized by Ukrainian forces. They even posted videos online of them
looting these stores. They became almost somewhat of memes.
And I went to one of these stores and found a lot of white supremacist symbols such as
1488. I don't know if we want to get too much into exactly what that means, the pharmacist symbols such as
1488. I don't know if we want
to get too much into exactly
what that means but I think
many of the viewers can
understand what that means. If
they don't, they can look it up
possibly.
Wow. Here's another clip
Patrick with a Russian bomb tech explaining his understanding of the history.
Chris Lancaster number three.
Patrick Lancaster, right now we are with Russian forces not far from the Russian-Ukraine war front line.
What happened in 2014?
In 2014, seizure of power.
There was a coup in the country.
Yes, Maidan.
There was a bunch of nationalists and I don't know how, but they managed to seize power.
And in 2014, this all started.
We helped set up roadblocks with just sticks and rifles.
We didn't let anybody in.
That's how it started.
And then it slowly began to develop.
And then it grew to a full-fledged conflict.
It's a civil war, let's say.
Do you engage in conversations with Russian troops about their understanding of history? I mean, if you talk to an American journalist, they'll say the war started three years ago
American journalists, they'll say the war started three years ago when Russia invaded Ukraine.
If you talk to people that watch this program, people that understand history, the President of the United States, Donald Trump, they'll say the war started in 2014 when there was a coup in
Ukraine. That's the same understanding that this young man has that you
just interviewed. Question, do they share this understanding? Can you generalize like that,
Patrick? Well, a lot of these, yes, Judge, a lot of these soldiers, they view one of the major
reasons of coming in, Russia coming into the war was to protect the people in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions
who voted to break away from Ukraine in 2014 after what they call the coup in Kiev, Maidan.
In the West of Ukraine they called a revolution, but the local population of Donetsk and Lugansk
viewed that as the end of their Ukraine.
Even the ones that were Ukrainian patriots viewed that as the end of their Ukraine because
the elected government that they helped elect was removed from office with them having nothing
to say about it. So they were done after that. And they had prayed to be brought into Russia
like Crimea was during that time. But unfortunately for them, an eight-year war came before Russia finally came in and said enough is enough and of course no one
expected us to be in the almost in the fourth year now but this is a long war. It's been
going for 11 years now. The news of the moment is that President Putin agreed in a phone call with President Trump to
halt Russian strikes on Ukrainian energy facilities, but not to a full ceasefire as Trump had insisted
upon. They haven't of course spoken to President Zelensky yet. I don't know that he has any say in this.
But does this surprise you that President Putin agreed for 30 days to stop striking Ukrainian energy facilities,
but to keep the war going until they have expelled the Russians fully from Kursk and the Ukrainians
fully from Kursk and until they achieve their objectives in eastern Ukraine or what is now Russia?
Well I think you know as the old saying goes, Zlenitsky and Trump are playing checkers and Putin's playing 4D chess.
He had to give something.
But anyone who's really into the situation here can understand that a full ceasefire
was not going to come yet.
Last year, Putin said exactly what needed to happen for a full ceasefire and peace for that
matter, and that's Ukrainian forces leaving Russia, what Russian law considers part of Russia. And
right now, there's five regions of what Russia considers Russia by Russian law that are, as Russia
says, occupied by Ukrainian forces. And that's Korsk, of course, and
Zaporozhye, her son, Donetsk, and Lugansk. And he made it clear that until there was
no Ukrainian soldiers on those territories, peace was not going to come in the form of
a long-term peace or a ceasefire. So I personally expected something like this, but he had to give something.
I mean, he just couldn't totally stonewall the situation.
He had to give a call.
Well, part of the problem is that the Trump White House has been crowing for
a week about how they were going to get a ceasefire out of this, and
it's significantly short of what they were going to get a ceasefire out of this. And it's significantly short of what they were seeking.
President Trump deserves some credit
for any bullet not fired.
It was one less person hit with the bullet.
So he'll take some credit for it and deservedly so,
but this is nowhere near what he was looking for.
As you may know, I was recently in Moscow last week at this time I was flying home, but I had been in Moscow for five days.
And many of the people with whom I interacted revealed to me the prevalence of a very traditional Christianity amongst upper classes and even amongst blue collar people.
I'm talking about Sergey Lavrov himself.
I'm talking about Professor Alexander Dugin himself.
I'm talking about Konstantin Malyfiv and all the people around him.
When I went to the Russian Orthodox Mass on Sunday morning, standing room only from 30 minutes before the mass
started. Some of the people with whom we dined, even though we dined sumptuously, sat at the feasts
on Friday and only drank water and tea because they fast totally from food on Fridays in Lent.
I give you this as a background because at first,
I was a little startled at what this drone pilot said to you.
But then I realized this is consistent with the suspicions
about the libertine West and consistent with the teachings
of the Russian Orthodox Church.
So it's a little long, but it's fascinating.
He repeats himself, but it's fascinating.
Here is Patrick chatting with a Russian drone pilot asking him why he's
fighting Lancaster number four.
Because I'm fighting against Satan.
Because I'm fighting against Satan. I'm fighting for my future, for my children, for my family, and for my people.
For my homeland.
So that we don't have all the perversions of the West, LGBT and others.
Who needs those things?
It should be so.
There is a man and there is a woman.
What is that propaganda like they have there?
I don't get it.
How they do that there? A man dates a man? I don't need such interest
here. It's not okay. I just love my motherland, my country. The government said that we have
to go, so we go forward. And we will always do so. Defend the land which is, since time
began, immemorial Russian. If somebody thinks
they can kick us out or impose upon us some of these so-called human rights or say that
he owns the land, then he is deeply mistaken.
You've said this is the Kharkov region where we are now, right? Is this Ukraine? No, Ukraine is Russia anyway.
Like Odessa is Russian as well, I think.
Ukraine has never existed as a state.
It's even called 404 like an error.
They just trusted the fate of the country to the clown.
But Europe, the United States and NATO said that Russia is the aggressor.
Russia is an aggressor?
Yes.
They always say that.
Who took Berlin?
Who took Berlin?
The Red Army took Berlin.
Our grandfathers and great-grandf whose land was this, ours, and it will always stay such.
And we will fight to the end.
What is he doing as he's chatting with youobaric warhead on a FPV kamikaze drone, preparing to fly it onto a Ukrainian frontline command and control center.
And I think in another clip, he explained what the thermobaric warhead does, it sucks the oxygen out of the air and the
victims die immediately.
Yeah, right after that clip, several Ukrainian soldiers were killed by that bomb.
Wow.
Have you found this level of patriotism, love of country, devotion to traditional Christianity elsewhere besides just this drone
technician.
Yeah, well, it's very, very common in Russia.
I mean, the vast majority, 90, upper 90s percents of people in Russia are Russian Orthodox, I would think,
and that's just my personal opinion. I've looked at the actual stats, but basically
everyone is Russian Orthodox here, and they go to church, they, as you said, they follow
the traditions and respect God and their beliefs.
Patrick, you're doing the work of the angels yet again and you're keeping your guardian
angel busy and he's protecting you, my dear man.
Thank you very much for reaching out to us with all of this.
Thank you for your time on the air today.
Obviously, this is live, but it'll be posted immediately
for people all over the world to see your good work
and to see a version of these events with which,
even with Donald Trump in the White House,
we still don't see in the Western media.
You almost stand alone, Patrick, and we're deeply grateful for your
friendship and your professionalism.
Well, thank you very much for everything you do, Judge, and I hope at some point we can
meet in person when fate wills it.
It will be my pleasure. Thank you, Patrick. All the best. Stay well.
And coming up at three o'clock this afternoon on all of this, on bombing the Houthis, on
slaughtering more innocents in Gaza, on this partial ceasefire, who better? Colonel Karen
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