Judging Freedom - [SPECIAL] - Scott Ritter : Trump deploys Nuclear Subs to Russia over Social Media Rift

Episode Date: July 31, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 you Hi, everyone. Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom. Today is Friday, August 1st, 2025. Welcome to this special edition of Judging Freedom with my dear friend and colleague Scott Ritter. Scott, thank you for the double duty this week. There's no better person on the planet for us to turn, literally for us to turn to, to explain the dangers, the significance and the idiocy behind what President Trump ordered today. What did he announce that he did today and what did he order and did? What is the significance of it? Uh, what did the president do today?
Starting point is 00:01:14 Well, what the president did today is deploy two of the most lethal strategic nuclear assets in the American arsenal, or at least he claims to deploy it. I think we will touch upon this later. Ohio class submarine launched ballistic missile capable submarines armed with Trident, solid fuel missiles, each one tipped with multiple thermonuclear warheads.
Starting point is 00:01:44 He has said that he has ordered them deployed into the appropriate areas in response to a Russian tweet from Dmitry Medvedev. This means areas where the submarine's missiles can target Russia. This is extraordinarily dangerous. You know, the United States maintains a permanent force of Ohio-class submarines on station, two submarines at least in each of the oceans, two in the Atlantic, two in the Pacific. They're on station where their missiles could reach any of the potential nuclear threats to the United States of America. On occasion, we deploy additional Ohio-class submarines. For instance, just recently, an Ohio-class submarine was deployed into the Indian Ocean close to Iran, where its Trident missiles armed with W76-2 low yield nuclear weapons could be used against Iran
Starting point is 00:02:48 if the president so ordered. But we have four nuclear armed submarines. So when he said he's ordered two deployed, is he talking about two additional submarines to this? Or is he talking about redeploying two submarines out of their existing stations into new deployment areas that make them even more of a threat to Russia? See, the tweet he's responding to is one from Dmitry Medvedev in which Medvedev sort of mocked the president as Medvedev. Medvedev is the former president of Russia, who's the number two person on their National Security Council,
Starting point is 00:03:31 who in recent years has been more publicly bellicose than President Putin. He's like the bad cop to Putin's good cop. And what did he do? Pick a social media fight with Trump and Trump took the bait Mean tweets. This is literally mean tweets. This is about Donald Trump Threatening to end the world as we know it because of a mean tweet, but what's even more outrageous is it? Donald Trump doesn't understand what mid Viet of tweeted Mediator was telling Trump to knock it off with the dangerous threats, saying that, you know, if you do this, America can end up looking
Starting point is 00:04:10 like the walking dead because of the dead hand. The dead hand is a reference to the perimeter system, which is a defensive system put in place by the Soviet Union back in the 1980s, so that if they are ever struck preemptively by the United States, a first strike, by the Soviet Union back in the 1980s, so that if they are ever struck preemptively by the United States, a first strike, by the way, the tactic to be used in a first strike is to bring Ohio class submarines close to Russia's shores,
Starting point is 00:04:35 fire off their Trident missiles on a flattened trajectory to avoid detection so you can strike the targets quicker, which is what Trump just actually appeared to order the US Navy to do. So the dead hand now becomes a factor because if Trump is dumb enough to launch an attack against Russia, the dead hand, the perimeter system, will ensure that all of Russia's strategic nuclear forces will be fired against the United States, even if Trump takes out Putin, the National Command Authority, etc.
Starting point is 00:05:06 I know this is a fact. When I was a weapons inspector in Vodkinsk, there was a missile crisis in March of 1990, because the Russians were trying to get three missiles out of the factory without us turning on the cargo scan x-ray system. Why? These weren't three SS-25 missiles. They don't care if we see those. These were three of what they call serena.
Starting point is 00:05:27 These are modified SS-25s, not to carry nuclear warheads, but to carry the radio equipment that's used to broadcast the codes. They needed to get these missiles out and deployed and ready so that the perimeter system was alive and well and living. The dead hand is only defensive in nature. Trump should feel no threat from this unless he's planning on attacking Russia This is the insanity this president doesn't even know what he's doing and he's responding to a mean tweet from a guy Who's been me tweeting for years now? I mean, I think most people, you know view Dmitry medvedev's tweets with sort of
Starting point is 00:06:02 You know humor Yeah, they hurt sometimes. He's very good at what he does. But he's not the president of Russia. He doesn't command Russia's military nuclear forces. He doesn't direct the Russian economy. He advises Vladimir Putin, but he is not Vladimir Putin. So to treat Medvedev as if his tweets actually
Starting point is 00:06:24 will translate into into action is, you know, childish behavior, but in this case, dangerously childish because he's literally putting two US nuclear submarines on a combat patrol against Russia. Let's read exactly what Trump said. Chris has prepared a full screen. This is from his social, his truth social. Based on the highly provocative statements of the former president of Russia, Dmitry Medvedev, who is now the deputy chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation, I have ordered two nuclear submarines to be positioned in the appropriate regions,
Starting point is 00:07:06 just in case these foolish and inflammatory statements are more than just that. Words are very important and can often lead to unintended consequences. I hope this will not be one of those instances. Thank you for your attention to this matter! Thank you for your attention to this matter exclamation point. What would Hegseth understand what you just explained about the power of these and how the Russians would perceive the threat? Would Pete Hegseth know that we already have four underwater and are we adding two more? Do we have two more to add or has he just repositioned two of the four that are already somewhere in the seas? I think we have 14 Ohio-class submarines. I mean somebody can correct me if I'm
Starting point is 00:07:54 wrong but I think it's 14 and they go through a rotation. You know first of all those four submarines that are out there it's a minimum of four, two in each ocean. You know they go through rotations and so they'll rotate back to their home port for refitting the crews have to go out. There are some that are cycling through long-term refueling and refurbishment. So you don't have 14 able to be deployed at any one time. I think you probably have somewhere in the area of,
Starting point is 00:08:20 you know, six to nine Ohio class submarines available for deployment. You'll have the four out in the fleet, out in the field. You'll have two that are getting ready to come out and replace two of the four. And then you have surge capacity. Like I said, sometimes they send an additional submarine out to the Indian Ocean. Other times they may choose to put three submarines in each of the deployment areas, depending on what the world situation is.
Starting point is 00:08:51 But this is a standard operating procedure, something that Pete Hegseth should be cognizant of now that he's the Secretary of Defense. He should have been briefed on this by the commanding general's strategic command, whose job it is to run these submarines. The other thing that we never announced the movement Ohio class. I was just going to ask you what is to be gained by making an announcement like this? Is he just trying to cause Putin sleepless nights? Well, I don't think Putin's going to cause sleep. But to make this announcement, first of all, it's foolish because all you're doing is giving credence to the legitimacy of the dead hand. I mean, the dead hand again only exists, it only becomes viable if the United States launches a preemptive nuclear strike against Russia and
Starting point is 00:09:31 redeploying Ohio class submarines close to Russia's shores Indicates that that's what you're doing. So, you know, the Russians are going to be doing something in return This is where it gets stupid because now they have to do something return Hopefully they don't announce it and make a big deal of it. But they do it in a way that we detect it and we know what they've done. Um, but the other thing is, let's say I'm a Ohio class submarine commander, a captain, and I'm out there just minding my own business.
Starting point is 00:09:57 And all of a sudden I'm told that the president is redirecting my submarine to a new deployment area. Um, maybe even telling me to target my warheads. I mean, we don't know. All the warheads should have been detargeted a long time ago, because we don't want inadvertent launch. But what did the president now say? Not only are we redeploying them, but you're now going to have a Russian city targeted to each one of these warheads. Who knows what's going through this man's head. But the president did this publicly. So now I'm the Russians and I go, okay, guys, start looking for an
Starting point is 00:10:30 Ohio class submarine moving because when Ohio class submarines on station, it's sitting at the bottom of the damn ocean and it ain't moving. It's avoiding detection altogether. You don't want to be moving this submarine because it can become detected. Now, if I'm the russians i'm Looking for this thing the russians has some very good submarines and if they locate it and trail it now They'll follow it to its new deployment area and if it makes a threatening move the russians will sink it immediately I mean, just see how dangerous this is
Starting point is 00:11:00 He has put the lives of 19 year old sailors Uh at risk as well as senior everybody on these subs. Oh, yeah, there's not too many 19 year olds on that submarine because submarine nuclear submarines require people with that have to go through some good training. But you got some 20 21 year olds. You got a lot of 30 year olds. You got a lot of 40 year old men with families and kids. You know, this is insanity. These are America's, you know, most capable warriors who we never want to think, we don't ever want these guys to go into combat. They're there for nuclear deterrence. They're there to deter an enemy from carrying out an attack against the United States. Now the president has put them in a place where they're not doing deterrence, but they have now become the perceived aggressors. This is insanity in the extreme. Pete Hegseth should be
Starting point is 00:11:49 advised, the chairman of the Joint Chief should be screaming his head off. I mean, JD Vance should be saying, Mr. President, no. But what we get, Lindsey Graham, the perfume princess out there, having an orgasmic response to the president's toughness, you know, telling his friends, the Russian people, Lindsey Graham isn't friends with anybody in Russia. I can tell you nobody in Russia is friends with Lindsey Graham. But you know, this is ridiculous. I apologize for the sexual reference there. That was inappropriate. But you know, you just take a look at the way this man's responding to these, this, this dangerous absurdity on the part of the president it's idiotic. This is going to raise your blood pressure even more rather than cautioning the president.
Starting point is 00:12:32 My former Fox News colleague who now runs the Pentagon has reposted on his own ex account President Trump's nuclear post that I just read to you. There it is. On Pete Heggs's official account, he reposted what Donald Trump said. So these guys are enablers, Scott, but I got to ask you something that I think is going to make this worse. Is it true that within the past several weeks weeks the United States delivered nuclear armaments to Great Britain? And if so, what did we send there? Well, it appears to be true. I mean, I can't confirm it, meaning I haven't seen the deployment order and I haven't seen the miss, but I've read the media reports and all indications are that we have delivered B6112 gravity bombs.
Starting point is 00:13:26 These are the, basically it's the same weapon system that we have deployed throughout NATO, part of the NATO nuclear deterrence. We've now deployed these to Great Britain, to air bases there, which means that we now have Air Base is there, which means that we now have a nuclear deterrence outside of the NATO hierarchy. That's what's interesting here, because in order for Great Britain to receive American nuclear weapons under the NATO umbrella, you have to invoke the NATO Nuclear Advisory Council and all this. There has to be discussion and things of this nature.
Starting point is 00:14:06 This is a unilateral deployment of the United States to Great Britain, which implies that this is about the United States and Great Britain posturing as opposed to United States strengthening NATO's nuclear deterrence. This is at a time when Great Britain just did the Northwoods declaration with France where they've combined the nuclear doctrines of France
Starting point is 00:14:24 and Great Britain as an independent outside of NATO nuclear capability. the New Yorker Woods Declaration with France, where they've combined the nuclear doctrines of France and Great Britain as an independent outside of NATO nuclear capability. This is when Great Britain has extended its nuclear umbrella into Poland, and now the United States is attaching its nuclear force to the British. I mean, we are literally, people look at all this stuff and they're like, you know, oh, that's not a big deal.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Let's not blow this out of proportion. If you go back and read Barbara truckman's fantastic book, the guns of August, it's about the lead up to August, 1914, the beginning of World War One, especially in the month of July, all the things that were happening, the people went, yeah, but it's just mobilization. Yeah, we're just doing this. No, there will never be a war. Nobody wants a war. And, we're just doing this. No, there will never be a war Nobody wants a war and then boom world war one Right now we are moves are being made right now that if they're not stopped and reversed
Starting point is 00:15:11 Are going to lead to a general nuclear exchange between the united states and russia This is the direction we're heading and I want to remind your audience that the cia said last year There's a greater than 50 chance that there will be a nuclear war between the United States and Russia during the last months of the Biden administration What the Biden administration was doing is provocative as it was pales in comparison to what this administration is doing We're above 50% right now judge. We're heading into extraordinarily dangerous territory What do you think is going on in the Kremlin as we speak as a result of all of this?
Starting point is 00:15:45 is going on in the Kremlin as we speak as a result of all of this? Dismay. Dismay. I mean, first of all, the Kremlin right now, I believe, is trying to bring it into the Ukraine conflict without creating an even greater conflict. And so this is always a delicate diplomatic balancing game. And then you have this president making threats. I mean, we still have the August 8th deadline coming up, the 10 days expires. What's going to happen on August 8th? Steve Witkoff flying to Moscow to meet with his Russian counterparts. Are threats going to be issued? And now in that environment where we're supposed to be actually trying to calm each other down, the president deploys two nuclear submarines in response to a mean treat from Dmitry Medvedev. The good news here, and I know I'm going to get in trouble here from people, but thank God there's one mature, responsible adult
Starting point is 00:16:40 in the room, and that's Vladimir Putin. Is he perfect? No. Does he walk on water? No. But I'll tell you what, he doesn't do any of the garbage that Trump's doing. And I believe Putin will do that which is necessary to ensure Russia's security interests without being provocative. If you saw his discussion today about Ukraine,
Starting point is 00:17:00 very level-headed, saying the door's open for peace, don't blame us It's ukraine saying they don't want peace. You know, it's united states. It's doing the we're ready for it But there are realistic conditions that have to be met. Um You know trying to just calm things down Lower lower the temperature And um, I think he's going to continue this way this this man is not suicidal He didn't spend a quarter of a century
Starting point is 00:17:25 getting Russia out of the ashes to where Russia is today, this nation where Russians are actually proud of who they are and what they are and what they've become. He didn't do all this just to throw it away in a blinding flash of nuclear insanity. And I think that was what was behind Dmitry Medvedev's mean tweet. What he was telling the president of the United States is, calm down, take a chill pill because the things you're talking about, the way you're talking can only end with a nuclear apocalypse.
Starting point is 00:17:54 And if you think for a moment that you can preemptively strike our leadership because we're not playing the game in Ukraine the way you wanna play, we have the dead hand and the dead hand will take you out. That's not provocative. That's just a statement of fact. And you know, hey, Tulsi, if you're watching, talk to the guy, brief him on the perimeter system, brief him on the dead hand. And if you need help, call me. I'll come in and back you up. But this guy needs to have some hard facts put on the table in front of him. I don't think he listens to anybody. Chelsea Gabbard is the only one that will tell him what
Starting point is 00:18:32 he doesn't want to hear, but the others are all yes men around him. However, yeah, P-TEK 6 retweeted. That's the biggest indication of the secrecy that you can come up with. Correct. Correct. President Putin did release a statement, very brief, to the point and manifesting what you said, the adult in the room. All disappointments arise from excessive expectations. In order to have a peaceful resolution, it is necessary to have substantive conversations and not in
Starting point is 00:19:06 public. He gets it. He gets it that Donald Trump is just bravado on steroids. Yeah. And well, the other thing is public posturing like this boxes you into a corner. I mean, what is the masculine statement that he's trying to make by deploying these nuclear submarines? Because this is alpha dog territory here. So now that you've done it, do you back away? Do you back off?
Starting point is 00:19:34 Do you pretend you didn't do it? Do you admit you were wrong? Not, no, once you've gone alpha dog mode, you're sitting there with your chest pumped out, hey, I got it, I'll take it. And then what is there going to be an additional escalation on this part? President Putin is 100% correct. The place for these discussions is behind the scenes. So you don't box yourself into a corner. So there's room to maneuver. You know, it's it's diplomacy
Starting point is 00:20:00 101. And you know, even a simple Marine like me knows this, that sometimes it's best not to go public with things and you handle it behind closed doors. And then when you finally reach agreement, as difficult as that process might be, you come out and put on a common smiley face, shake hands and everything's good. The world doesn't need to know what your disagreements are.
Starting point is 00:20:21 They only need to know that you actually worked through them and came to an conventional agreement that makes the world a safer place to be. I'll leave you, not leave you, but I'll say this. On July 29, President Trump, in responding to a question from a task correspondent, talking about the New Star Tree, which is the last strategic nuclear arms agreement in play between the United States and Russia,
Starting point is 00:20:44 said that's an agreement that cannot be allowed to expire. It expires on 4 February 2026. That's the most sane thing this man has said. So hopefully there's a modicum of sanity in that brain of his so that he understands the danger of nuclear weapons. He appears to understand that the necessity of avoiding an arms race. He appears to understand that and hopefully we can get through These turbulent times and and get on to doing what needs to be done like extending the new star treaty The russian people are referring to trump by a certain word. What is that word? Uh, dear, um, it's a word i'm not supposed to use it's not a foul word, but it's it's not a nice word. Duroc means fool. It means idiot. It's not meant in a kind way. And if you call someone a duroc,
Starting point is 00:21:33 it is it is a debasing term. It means you're literally an idiot. You're stupid. You're you're dumber than than belief. I used the word today in describing President Trump, and I used the Russian variant because I just happened to believe that the 150 plus million Russians who looked at this that's probably the first word that came to their mind do rock What an idiot what a fool because there's no there's no justification for his actions. There's no legitimate trigger for this It's as foolish and idiotic as it gets. What is American Intel doing now in response to what Trump announced? Well, I mean, what it should be doing right now is monitoring Russian strategic nuclear forces, looking for any alteration in alert status,
Starting point is 00:22:24 counting Russian submarines. The Russians just deployed a brand new submarine, the biggest submarine in the world. It carries 96 nuclear warheads on it. I can't remember how many, you know, the RS-56 Bulava missiles, but the most modern, more modern than the Trident missile, 96 of them. It's out there right now on station.
Starting point is 00:22:46 American intelligence trying to find out where that submarine is, trying to look at the operational status of the mobile missiles, the SS-27s that are out there. Are they in garrison? Had they been put out into the Siberian forests? What's the alert status of the other missiles in their silos? Because what Trump did is begin, unfortunately, he began the process of the mobilization of
Starting point is 00:23:15 nuclear forces that if left unchecked will lead to inevitable nuclear. Just again, I want to come to the point. Last fall, we were over 50% chance of a nuclear war, we were very lucky to avoid it. Right now, that percentage is higher. It's an extraordinarily dangerous situation that even though I sort of chuckle when I talk about the word duroc, it's only because this situation is so damn dangerous that you have to laugh. It's like, you know, we're gonna die. You know, what can you do? Cry or laugh and we're gonna die unless something changes. This is it. There won't be historians able to write this history because they'll all be dead. But if they were, this will be one of those moments that a person like Barbara Tuchman would be talking about in the future, you know, Guns of August book that, that would have been
Starting point is 00:24:07 written if anybody lived, but we're talking about thermonuclear war here, global thermonuclear war, there won't be survivors. Wow. How destructive can these submarines be if they were to attack under the radar or under the defensive systems at Moscow? We talking about Hiroshima and Nagasaki type destruction or greater? Oh, good Lord, greater. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were 12 kilotons under 20 kilotons of destructive power. Very, I mean, destructive, no doubt about it. Our cities would be hit with 150 kilotons, 300 kilotons,
Starting point is 00:24:48 one megaton, that's 1,000. We're literally talking. I did a public briefing last December at the National Press Center, where I invited Theodore Postle to come in and give a presentation about what a single Russian nuclear warhead over Washington. This is the brilliant and fearless MIT physicist.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Yeah, good man. And you look at this briefing and it just terrifies you. And that's just one. Understand that when you do nuclear targeting, you're putting at least two warheads on each target, just to ensure. If you're hitting a national capital center, I can say this. During the Cold War, Moscow was targeted by about 60 warheads
Starting point is 00:25:33 that just overkill to make sure we got everything. And so the Russians will be doing the same thing. There will be nothing left alive in Washington, DC. Read Annie Jacobson's book, Nuclear War. She run through a very realistic scenario and it's over. And you don't want to survive this. If there's a nuclear war, you want to die. You want to be one of the ones
Starting point is 00:25:56 who turns into dust immediately because to live isn't to live, to live is to die. Rear Admiral Buchanan, who is the Director of Plans for Strategic Command, gave a lecture last November in Washington, D.C., and after he acknowledged that the Biden administration is ready to have a nuclear exchange with Russia, we're ready to have a nuclear war with Russia and we're going to win, this is what he said. He then said, we probably should be more honest with the American public about what this means and what victory means, because he said, we probably should be more honest with the American public about what this means and what victory means. Because he said, even when we win, life will never be the same for any American.
Starting point is 00:26:30 There won't be civil liberties. We'll be living under permanent martial law. You're not going to have electricity, running water, medicine. None of the niceties of civilization that you currently enjoy will exist. And that's winning a nuclear war. Ladies and gentlemen, you don't want to win a nuclear war. Ladies and gentlemen, you don't wanna win a nuclear war, you just wanna die, because to win means you're gonna be suffering.
Starting point is 00:26:48 If you're a parent with kids, who the hell wants that for their children? This is why people have to become angry about this and mobilized about this. People should be calling up their representatives in Congress and saying, what the hell are you doing? People should be demanding that Lindsey Graham, the perfume princess get booted out of the Senate.
Starting point is 00:27:05 This is the man who is almost single or responsible for this very crisis because of his asinine performances, because of his Russophobia. This is why I do what I do, to combat Russophobia. So the people, when they hear the lunacy out of people like Lindsey Graham, out of Donald Trump and others, they go, no, that's not real. That's not the Russia.
Starting point is 00:27:27 We're not buying into this crap. But it's an uphill battle right now. But people need to understand, we're talking about you're going to die. Your kids are going to die. And if they don't die, they're going to suffer like you've never seen people suffer before. No parent wants to see that or experience that.
Starting point is 00:27:43 So let's nip this thing in the bud. Let's let Donald Trump Let's let Pete Kedzeth. Let's let Lindsey Graham and everybody else know that this is not okay This is not good. You don't deploy to Ohio class nuclear submarines because of a mean tweet Get real become an adult become the leader that everybody expected you to be a mean tweet sent to the most powerful Assets of the United States into an operational status. This is insanity, literal insanity. Scottie, I know you have to go, so I will let you go. Thank you very much for all this. You warned about all this in your book, Highway to Hell. I just want the public. I mean, that's why I read the book, Judge.
Starting point is 00:28:22 You did. I read the book I was Privileged to to write a blurb for it. It's all in there. It predicted what's happening right now, Scotty I know you got to go. Thank you very much. Have a great weekend. We'll see you Monday or early next week Okay, judge. Thanks a lot. Thank you Wow, and of course everybody should have a nice weekend God only knows what will happen Monday all of your regulars will be with us. Alistair Crook at eight in the morning, Ray McGovern at 10, Larry Johnson at 1130, and probably Scott Ritter to bring us up to date.
Starting point is 00:28:55 And God only knows what will happen over the weekend. Thank you for watching this special edition of Judging Freedom. Judge Napolitano for Judging Freedom. You

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