Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Abercrombie and Fitch CEO Arrested with Sloan Hooks

Episode Date: October 24, 2024

Sloan Hooks, a pop culture deep dive expert is here! The CEO of Abercrombie and Fitch along with his lover and associate have been arrested for sex trafficking young men! Britney married herself and Sloan shares about his history with her former manager. Is Selena Gomez dancing too close to her costar? Does Kanye and his wife Bianca have the ultimate transactional relationship? So juicy! Enjoy!  If you have subscribed for EXTRA JUICY SCOOP, Click on this link: https://zc.vg/4eF8F Stand Up Tickets and info: https://heathermcdonald.net/ Shop Juicy Scoop Merch https://juicyscoopshop.com  Get EXTRA Juicy on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop  Follow Me on Social Media: Instagram: https://www/instagram.com/heathermcdonald  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald  Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have a great guest for you today. He's a first time Juicy Scooper, Sloan Hooks. Welcome to the show. You have a huge presence on YouTube. Thank you. I've been manifesting this because I grew up watching you in various platforms. I love that you have this podcast now

because it's just like a new light and new energy. And I'm such a big fan of the show and I love that you're into hot topics because that's exactly what I do. So I'm so happy to be here. Well, thank you. I was following you already and then somebody alerted me

that you gave me a little shout out or did something that was mentioned on my show. And then after that, a couple of people were writing me saying you gotta have Sloan on, so I'm so glad you could make it. And we have so much to discuss. First of all, I just wanna get a little background on you. You're a young, cute guy.

So what is your background? Where did you grow up? So I grew up in Virginia, pretty much outside of DC. Had a pretty regular upbringing. I came out as gay really early, which was like a surprise from where I came from. But you know, it taught me a lot about my character. I went off to college, I studied statistics,

ended up working in the government. Where'd you go to college? James Madison University, yeah, in Virginia. So Shenandoah Valley, and then I worked for the government, the Department of Defense, I did some. Oh wow. Yeah, like some military data analysis for them. I was super into stats,

it's like the only subject I understood. But I also, I've always loved making YouTube videos. And in the seventh grade, I started doing little music video things and little challenges. But, you know, speed up to the pandemic, I started to cover more hot topic kind of stories, very niche, which brought me a community on YouTube. And I just continued talking about them. I started speaking about Free Britney before anyone talked about Free Britney, which really threw me into that mix and the Nickelodeon mess.

So then I ultimately left my job and I moved out here in LA and I'm loving this career. It's so much more fun. And do you like the LA life? I do like the LA life. I think also because I did come here with a little bit more establishment. I know a lot of people come here to make it. And not saying I made it, I definitely did not, but I at least had something going for me.

It's hard out here. I mean, there's a lot of competition. So I love YouTube because it's given me my own space. Kind of like you have a great like community that just die hard. So I think YouTube kind of gives us that ability to own that space, which is why I love it. So great. Okay, so we're getting into a lot of the things.

Since you did, I'm gonna move this up. Since you did mention Britney, that you were part of the things. Since you did, I'm gonna move this up, since you did mention Britney, that you were part of the Free Britney movement, when you say that, what do you mean you were part of it? So in April 2019, I started posting videos, just kind of like leveraging articles I saw online, and the way I spoke about the content, I think kind of like you, you know,

we've got a way of covering topics where people like to hear our takes, and that was established for me pretty early on. So her old manager, Sam Lefty, who is sketchy, definitely not someone I would fully rely on, sent me like $100 in PayPal with his phone number said, call me. I talked to him for two and a half hours on the phone that day. And he ended up leaking information through my channel. And my video started to get, you know, more views, like 60,000, 90,000. What type of information did he leak? Emails of them talking about how they were going to make sure

the judge issued a flight risk notice so that she couldn't leave, so that she was trapped in the conservatorship. So emails back from when he did manage her? Back whenever he was. Like how many years ago are talking? This is 2007, 2008. He also gave me information about Amanda Bides because he was a huge part of putting her

into a conservatorship. So he essentially Sam Lofty was Sam Lofty was he actually he organized the flight from New York City to LA with her parents. So he sent me screenshots of emails with her dad. Does he say he regrets this now? Or what was his point of view? I mean, he's basically telling on himself, which is in retrospect, not a great move. Well, he feels like in the Britney situation that Larry Rudolph prohibited him from actually helping there.

He didn't want Britney in a conservatorship. Amanda, though, he will, till this day, say, she deserves it. He's like, she should still be in it. I'm like, no, no one should be in a conservatorship. But I don't think he really had control in there. He just had receipts to show, hey, this was happening. The stuff you're talking about that happened 10 years after the fact is actually true. I was

there. I was part of it trying to stop it in that moment. He probably regretted it. Did he share anything of why he felt that she did have, you know, what he would consider mesh mental issues? Amanda Bynes? Amanda Bynes. I mean, he, you know, he would never get it. He like did not want to talk about Amanda because he specifically felt like she deserved it. I think he resented her personally because he was so tied into that. When we get into Amanda, I think it's like,

Dan Schneider is a big part of that, that Nickelodeon mess. She tried to file for emancipation at 16 from her parents to live at Dan Schneider's home with his wife. He's a married man, which we never hear about his wife, Hungry Girl. Hungry Girl's her name. Her name is Lisa, but she goes by Hungry Girl. She's like a cook, a chef. On Instagram. Oh.

Yeah. Just in general in life. She's actually pretty established. She's gone on different talk shows and cooked for people. But yeah, Amanda was way too involved with the director and producer of that show. So- You know, I mean, if we're just going to play, criminal defense attorney, which I like to do since my sister is one. You know, Dan has always said, you know, I guess maybe I was like a mean showrunner or whatever, but like, has never denied any of the stuff, even though we had the weird videos of him like clearly thinking that, you know, 13 year old feet was by far the funniest thing that we could ever feature over and over and over again.

Some people just aren't that creative and he could say, hey, I just beat it like a dead horse, this dumb joke. Anyway, he could also say, hey, she wasn't happy with her parents, she was the star of this show. And my wife who is lovely was like, if she does get emancipated, she could live with that.

Like, you know, it doesn't mean that there could, I mean, look, it doesn't look good, but it also, there still has no one has ever said, including Amanda, that there was anything wrong or inappropriate happening. And I mean, there were times growing up when we were in high school and stuff, we're like, this would happen a lot like in my generation

where, you know, your best friend would be fighting with their parent and then they would just like live with you for a month. And now I would never agree to that. I would be so afraid that legally something would happen or they would think that, you know, I like, I feel like that's just a lawsuit ready to happen. But back in like the 80s and 90s and some people would do that. They'd be like, that's fine. He can stay with us for two months.

And I feel like that's that's speaking to society and our exposure, like social media news. We hear all these horrific stories. So back then it was happening. Just nobody was talking about it. And they definitely didn't believe them, especially when it came to male victims. I mean, what you said about Dan, you're right. I mean, Amanda's never said anything. And I think if there is a downfall, it would have to be under Amanda's terms.

But he hired these people that committed crimes over and over again. He knew that Drake Bell was being touched by Josh, not Josh Peck, I must say Josh Peck, Brian Peck, yeah. That was horrible with the acting teacher. So he knew this stuff, which I think speaks to more of his character, which is why there is this shade over him. But you're right, we can't charge him. I'm not defending him, I'm just saying, if there was something for her to live with them, it doesn't mean that she was gonna be in a throuple,

is all I'm saying. But obviously, you know, we see her now and it's just absolutely shocking because I remember the first time I saw her and it was my manager at the time was like, brought a VHS tape over and was like, look at this kid. She just did like a one day standup camp at the Laugh Factory and she's gonna be a huge star.

And I was like, well, thanks, this kid is like 10 and I'm like 25 trying to make it. I'm like, all right. But, you know, she was so, so talented, but sometimes it's mental illness, but sometimes it's people are just like, I don't want that life anymore. And you're like, what do you mean

you don't wanna be an actress anymore? It's the greatest thing on earth. And sometimes it's just not, you know? I mean, even people that are really well established and everything, they leave acting and they start selling tequila or like Gwyneth Paltrow Goop. Like sometimes people don't want the hours

and being told to stand and the sound of the lights. But clearly with Amanda, like, you know, okay. So getting back to all of this. So you were getting this from Sam and Sam found you. Now I had reached out to Sam over the years and I was like, would you ever want to talk? And clearly he didn't want to talk to me, but, because I was always wondering, did he get a bad rap? Oh, he definitely did. I mean, they had to, Brittany's mom wrote a book talking about him drugging her, which they, he actually sued her for defamation because of that. Took it to

court, proved that he never drugged Brittany, and the book actually cannot be sold because of that. And that was a long time ago. So he definitely got a bad rep for it. I don't think he realized I recorded her call, so he probably regretted it later on when it was leaked and transcribed and all that information was put out there. But I knew I was onto something because TriStar Sports Entertainment has been allegedly attributed as the firm, Louam Taylor and her manager, as the people who put Britney in this conservatorship. So when I started getting one, two, 15,

25 cease and desist letters from them, but no lawsuits filed, I was like, you know what? I think I'm onto something. And I was just little old me with my government job, so I really didn't mind the risk. And now, you know, so it all kind of came out with the documentary, the books and everything. And so recently she, you know, did a little video.

I married myself and I, you know, I had met her out one night. She was very nice to me. When was this? December 16th. Wait, like last year? Yeah. Oh my gosh, wait, out? Okay, so then you would understand, is she coherent?

Wait, no, you went out with her. I saw this report, right? I didn't go out with her. Well, you posted something. I met her at a restaurant. Oh. Yes. And was she coherent? Yes, she was. Was she like wacky and stuff? Yeah, you know? But-

Friendly nonetheless? Oh, no. She was nice and everything. And there's more to it than I tell like at my live show. Oh, I love that. But she was, no, she was nice. But I have said, this is it. I don't think she's ever going to- Be on stage. I don't think she wants to. Again, everybody always thinks, don't you want to? Don't you want to get? No, like, hopefully, you know, I think she's happy in this house. I don't think she wants to remodel it. I don't think she wants to go anywhere else. I don't know. Yeah, because she moved out for a little bit and then moved right back in when she was, you know, around the time that she married Sam.

I don't know what her finances are like, but I do think this is, she still wants to feel like she has interactions with fans, even though she's turned off her comments. But I think she likes to see the likes and the views, and she likes doing this dancing and all this stuff. But... It is interesting because like, if you don't want to be a part and the views, and she likes doing this dancing and all this stuff. But- It is interesting because if you don't wanna be a part of this life, we can get it, but the Instagram- It's a weird thing.

It's weird because it's old stuff too. This isn't new. It's just odd that she's reposting these things. I mean, I know Crowdsurf was the company hired by Britney Baby LLC to run her Instagram. So there have been reports of like, she's not even actually running it. And back when the free Britney was at the height

and her dad was in control of everything, there were questions of like, is she making these posts or not? But I don't understand why anyone would do this. I got all sucked into that world too. And I was talking to her former like makeup artist and he was telling me, oh, we talk on the phone and she has all this type of stuff.

And I just felt like in the end, it wasted so much of my time because it was like, she's not posting these things and they're trying to make her look crazy. And I'm like, but how would that behoove them? Yeah, right. Oh, because the crowd serve people are in to keeping her into the conservator.

She's helping the brand at all. And my conclusion is it is her. It's not a body double. I think her teeth have moved. Yeah. And some people just need to, you know, keep a program with a retainer in this line. Yeah, I think it's her and I think she's going to keep a program with a retainer or Invisalign. Yeah, I think it's her, and I think she's gonna keep spinning.

Spinnin' all day. Until, you know. Until she spins through the floor. Yeah, until she can't spin anymore. Like, I don't think anything's gonna change. But it's like, the only thing that might change is, I haven't talked to her about it in a long time. I think people aren't really talking about it. People don't really care.

And that would be the only thing that if she truly is someone that needs to feed her attention, you know, Jean, then she might be like, okay, well, now I do want to do something. Because- Well, there's this movie coming about, right? They sold the rights to a movie, but that would just be like a scripted movie.

Yeah, I wonder if she would have a part in it. Yeah, I don't think she will. Yeah. Because, but I mean, I think she'll get the check and it's her life, but I don't think she's gonna be like the one who says it's gonna play her. Picks the actress and decides, yeah. Yeah, no. I think that'll go,

and I bet it'll be quite, it could be really good. It could be great. You know, it could be like some chance for an actress to get an Oscar or something. But who knows where she'll be when that comes out or what her point of view will be. Chances are she'll hate it. Yeah, I could see her totally. It comes out and then it's just a post like, I never really like this. That never happened.

I never got an ice cream before I had a hot dog. You know, like how people get like wrapped up in like some small thing about their own life Which I get must be so weird for anyone to see their life, but anyway That's what I think. Reminds me of like Gypsy Rose and the Menendez brothers and all that. It's just like odd. Yes I was actually interviewing the makeup artist who did Gypsy Rose's makeup, you know when she came to LA and she did like the full beat Yeah, it was so interesting. She told me that Gypsy was she was the fourth person to hear that Gypsy Rose's makeup, you know, when she came to LA and she did like the full beat. Oh yeah. It was so interesting. She told me that Gypsy was, she was the fourth person

to hear that Gypsy was pregnant. She like, Gypsy just randomly sent her a picture cause she's got no girlfriend. So like this cute makeup artist that I interviewed, Alexis Oakley, she's like the only one that really bonded with her. And she's like, I saved that photo. And I looked at the time trying to like decipher,

you know, whether it's the baby's Ken's or Ryan's, but she told her like, you know, 30 minutes after she took the test and sent it to this makeup artist, which random, right? Yes, and I feel like there was a couple articles about her last week, cause she said, they're like, she's like, well, I'm sad that my child won't be able to meet

her real maternal grandmother. Oh, you're sad about it. Yeah, right? I mean, you shouldn't be sad about it. She was a horrible woman, so horrible that you killed her. So like, I just, but even with that, I was like, you know what, I think we're done with her. I think we're done with Anna Delvey.

There's some that I just want to like. I'm over Anna Delvey. Like she really could have done her big one with the Dancing with the Stars and they could have been a little bit more likable, especially because her partner's been dreaming of this. And then she goes there and she's just like, the disrespectful was cute at first,

but now it's just not flattering. I think it really is her. I think she really is. Do you see her litter on TikTok? Like she threw like a can outside the window, like, oh, someone is driving and all the comments are like, litter queen, just like praising her.

It's disturbing. Yeah, I think, yeah, there's certain people where I'm like, ready to close the book on them. Yeah, like who cares, you know, like who cares with her? Okay, so you did a little story on this. Oh, look at my face there too. Well, sorry, I just had to grab it quickly. Sorry, I just had to grab it, just grabbing it.

But this is about Katy Perry and her husband. And I- You know they're not married, I learned that. I thought they were. Do you know, there's a lot of people I wonder that I've said this for years. When they have like a pretty clean breakup, I'm like, were they ever really married? Like, I still I still don't know if Jennifer Aniston and what was her husband's name? I remember.

Jennifer Aniston. Not Brad Pitt. The other one. Oh, my God, the brunette one. What is the name? The brown haired one. Oh, God, the brunette one. What is the name? The brown haired one. Oh my God, Justin, Justin Theroux. Oh, I love that. I always wonder if they really got married.

Yeah. You know? I mean, it seems like a headache. I guess if you have such a solid pre-nup, you could end it. But I just wonder if sometimes they kind of agree, like let's just have our ceremony, have our fun, but not really get married because neither of us, like, let's just have our ceremony, have our fun, but not really get married because neither of us, like, I don't know.

But so they are not actually married, but they have a child, right? Yep, they do. OK. And they are partners in crime, in my opinion. I mean, they both know how just to cringe everyone to every degree. Katy Perry tried to come out, come back with her new album,

143, and it's just like, there's something, try hard. You know, we're actually in a new era where there are a lot of new pop stars. So then when we see her going on to Call Her Daddy, talking about like, So I Got Off Orlando and these really weird moments. I mean, I- I know, that was such a cringeable moment

when she's just like, I felt like she was coming on, being like, I'm gonna go on like the hippest podcast and talk, come up with like a dumb joke that's like every standup has done, including myself. Literally I had a joke like that in my first special. And it just felt really inauthentic and really, again, like you said, cringey, try hard. That she's, when she does the dishes, she blows them.

And everyone's like, don't you have like a housekeeper? No, sometimes people don't want to have, then people fight with you. You know, even if you're rich, sometimes you just don't want anyone at the house. I mean, she just really wanted to be clean. I'm like, oh, and I feel exactly what you said in this video. I don't even think they're boning at all.

I mean, did you see, I saw a video clip of her at the Chainsmokers, like some DJ just looking at him. And when I say she had serpent eyes, like she was trying to get that man, which you're trying to get the DJ to notice her. Yeah. And Orlando is like a great looking guy. I mean, I just not say I like him, but I don't imagine him with her. She just seems so hard to deal with. I saw a video like on TikTok, whatever that someone grabbed. And it was before Ben and Jen broke up and Ben is here. and there's some guy, like some fan, like behind the thing with a sign.

And JLo's like, and she gives us like sexy look and they like slowed it down. They're like, no wonder Ben couldn't take it anymore. I'm like, oh my gosh, you know, I don't really think that's the deal, but it was kind of funny to like, when you see those things, like, you know, what her deal is, but you know, there's a conspiracy, but it was kind of funny to like when you see those things like, you know, what her deal is, but you know, there's a conspiracy theory that she was actually JonBenet. I've, yep, I've talked about that before and I was so confused.

I mean, I low-key wish it was true because she did come from that Christian family and all of that. She was like, yeah. It would be cool, but you know, I think JonBenet is gone. Yeah, I think Trumpet A is gone. Yeah, I think. So what do you, now did you also see that, she had that famous moment where she tried to kiss a contestant on American Idol. And now that contestant was just arrested for being in possession of child porn.

Okay. Now did this contestant go far? Or we just know him because he was like, assaulted by Katy Perry. I wanna say that he didn't go that far, but we just know him because he was like, assaulted by Katy Perry? I wanna say that he didn't go that far, but I don't know, because I haven't watched American Idol in like 20 years. I don't know.

What is going on with the world? It's like, I mean, prior to Diddy, of course everything was going downhill, but damn, it just sounds like every corner. The contestants, the judges, the CEOs. We have more on that darkness, but first, so what did happen with their real estate? First, they tried to get the house from the nuns.

Yes. In Los Feliz. Yes. If you're selling a property right now and Katy Perry wants to go and buy it, just sell it. Just go ahead and sell it. It's not worth your life. She tried to buy the home in, I think it was Hancock Park, the church with the nuns. And of course, one of those nuns dropped dead in court, which I think it's different to like die while they're in like a legal battle, but to drop dead in court. So wait, I don't know that part.

She dropped dead in the courtroom. So she's in court trying to keep her property. Elderly woman. How is it, do you know, how is it that they could buy it from them if they weren't selling it? So I think that it was one of those situations where I believe like it was like a church home, right? And you know how there's different nonprofits write-offs? I don't know if it maybe did not qualify or something along those lines, so it headed towards eviction. So the community wanted to protect that home, the church wanted to, but Katy Perry saw this structure and she wanted to get it, which is so weird because I don't imagine her being

the most faithful person. So I don't know why she was so drawn to this home, but it resulted in one nun's life. And now they're all kicked out of there. They all had to leave. So now she did get the house. She did. And then she also got Carl Westcott's, the Montecito home where he just had surgery the week prior

and he claims he was not in the right mindset. And then he died. How did that happen? Was it just like some realtor knocked on the door and like offered him a lot of money and he was not in the right, and then signed the papers and then was sick and then she was like, we're in escrow on this house. You know, that's where I kind of like call BS because I'm kind of like, you know, you

don't I don't I bought a place before. You don't just sign these documents away. You don't just sign your home way. So it must have been like either he made a decision and then probably regretted it. May he spoke to his family later or what you're alluding to may some sneaky realtor who came and kind of conditioned him and prayed him into this signing. Yeah, because the former, the real housewife of Dallas, it was her father-in-law. Yeah, and they claimed they were gonna move,

like when Sue actually went to court, they're like, yeah, this is gonna be our family home and everything, but they actually did a discovery and realized that they were gonna use it as a rental home. So it kind of just bad taste in your mouth when you're like, oh, this old man is going to die. But she did get it, right? She did. Yeah, she got it. She got the Santa Barbara house. Yep. So if you are selling and Katie's buying, you better give it up.

Yeah, you're better. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. And I mean, her latest song was pretty weird. I actually saw her in concert, like in WeHo. She had like a very small performance and... Was it good? It was actually, you know, you can't take that one thing away from her. She is a performer. She's a good performer. She has a lot of really great hit songs. Yeah, the personality, it's just like, it just gives me like JoJo Siwa, Ellen DeGeneres energy. Yes, it is. It's a marriage of both. You're so right Well, this is breaking news the New York Post is reporting that the former Amber Cromby and Finch CEO Mike Jeffries was arrested Tuesday as part of a sex trafficking investigation

The disgraced fashion giant boss was nabbed in West Palm Beach and he looks like such a guy to be in West Palm, right? I lived there and out when I saw that I was like, so true. Yes. While two of his business associates, Matthew Smith and James Jacobson were also arrested in the case. So I mean, we are aware of the reports and the documentary about how this, all the nefarious, inappropriate things that happened with the young men that they used as models as salespeople everything so the story is to just get a little bit so

He's accused as as being a serial sexual predator and was arrested and this he's 80 she and It all these antics that he's you know know, had parties where men came, a hundred men have been abused. This is all part of like this lawsuit, I guess, too. Allegedly, the hundred have been abused. His romantic partner is this guy, Matthew Smith, who's 61, as well as a business associate. And James Jacobson, who's 71.

I thought it stopped working when you got older. It just I guess I know it previously described by abusers as a middleman who is missing his nose and Covers the spot with a snakeskin patch According to the BBC were also arrested in the case. So it's the 80 year old guy his his 61 year old, his 71 year old, no, 61 year old boyfriend, and his 71 year old partner who doesn't have a nose. So those three, imagine those three guys, and you're fucking stuck at some disgusting house party and there's no way home. I think Ryan Murphy has some new work, some new project to get into. I mean, first off, Abercrombie and Finch, you had to wear it in high school.

It was like when I was in high school, everyone had the t-shirts, and all of a sudden, Abercrombie and Finch, it was so basic. Actually, I remember this company got into a lawsuit because they hired an employee, and she actually turned out to have a prosthetic arm, and then it realized until she came in

because she wore long-sleeved shirts. She just worked at the store? No, she did just work at the store, and they fired her because of her prosthetic arm, so she like sued them and ultimately won. But that speaks to how these people work at the store and they fired her because of her prosthetic arm. So she like sued them and ultimately won. But that speaks to how these people look at the world. I mean, this is the brand that built it off of like skinny, white, pretty, and like you could wear our clothing.

Yeah, this one guy said that he, um, so the rest come roughly after a year after the FBI started probing claims that Jeffries allegedly orchestrated elaborate sex events to exploit and sexually abuse young male models during his 22-year tenure at the branch. This went on for a long time. And 12 men alleged that they were lured to events at Jeffries' upscale New York residence, luxury hotels, also the Hamptons house. And one said that he was forced to, you know, do a sexual thing at the Hamptons house.

And he just felt frightened. He didn't know how he was gonna get out of it, how he'd get home. And then all the employees were wearing the shirts, you know, and like, I made it so like these employees are probably in on it, knowing like, I just think it's just so sad because, you know, a young guy comes and he's like,

oh, that could be a model or this could lead to even opportunities, whatever. And he's at this fancy house and these guys are probably saying like, you're not just gonna be a model, but you know, you have such a great brain, you can work in marketing or whatever they say. And then all of a sudden now you're like trapped there. And then you're terrified because it's like this, not only it's like power, just the same

thing that's happening with other ditty victims. It's powerful people who knows what the threats were. A lot of them were international too. A lot of them were international too. Yeah. A lot of them were international. So it's like getting home. It's like, I don't even know where I really am. So I wonder, like, the fact that it was just probed into like a year ago, I wonder like with this Diddy stuff and all of everything else happening, I wonder like, is this part

of it? Like, did he like get a hint from doing it? You know, New York was pursuing Diddy initially, so I wonder if they got kind of a hint because it does seem so random for this to come about. Plus, like, what scary men. I mean, I don't know if you have the picture of the nose, but they're so frightening. Oh, you have a picture of the nose?

No, I don't. Do you? Oh, okay. No, I don't know. Like, why are you not having a nose? Is that from just 30 years of Coke use, or like, why don't you have a nose? Yeah, I cannot understand why, especially because these people definitely have money. They're in West Palm Beach.

Like go and build yourself a two nose. I mean, I think what happens with finally arresting these monsters is, you know, someone comes forward, a journalist gets a hold of their story. Then there's an article written, a documentary, all while a civil case goes on. And a civil case goes on and people have validity because they all have similar stories and they have evidence that they came home that night and

they told their roommate and they journaled about it and they went to the doctor, whatever it is. And then with those civil cases, with all that evidence, then that also gets brought to the regular authorities. And that's why they get arrested when these things happen. I was just on Instagram. It's almost like the civil attorney does the work for the FBI kind of to start it off.

Just to build the case. Yeah, and then once they're like, okay, then once they have all that stuff. Yeah, I saw one of the victims actually just post on Instagram on the car ride here. He was like, I don't think he knew that this was happening today. He was just like, my phone's blowing up,

processing a lot of this and what I had gone through. So I think we're gonna hear a lot more because if he's like making a statement, I'm sure the rest can probably speak about it too. Yes, and I think also, you know, with the Menendez brothers, one of the things that someone had said throughout the trial back then and now is that if the two brothers were sisters and

they had suffered this kind of abuse, they don't believe that they would have, they believe they, that that would have been a bigger part of the case and they would have not gotten this sentence. Like they would have, you know, of the case and they would have not gotten this sentence. Because they were boys and because it was the 90s and they're seeing these, at the time, six-foot men crying, and especially the second trial, they were older, so they didn't even give them the sweaters and stuff. They put them in suits. They didn't let all that evidence come forward. We just as a society had not really shed light, like even with all the stuff that went on in the Catholic Church, that hadn't really been coming to surface yet of how much abuse happened

with girls, but mostly boys. And so I think with this too, it's like end with the P. Diddy male victims. It's really sad, but it's really good that, you know. And now these, you know, men can heal. I think that's such a valid take, but like part of me just, I automatically think about like the devil's advocate, like women are always just abused by the media. Imagine two like cute girls that just killed their parents.

Like while we might think, oh yeah, because they were sexually abused, maybe we would have had more graces. But also, imagine two rich girls that just killed their parents. I can imagine the media dragging them through. We don't know what it could have been. It could have been something different.

It could have been, yeah. If it was Paris and Nikki Hilton, not to be, no offense, Kathy and Rick. But if it was them, yeah, I think it's the same type of media story and also we don't really believe it. You had boyfriends, you did it. Of course it was a lot of speculation going

and because they were rich and privileged and all of that. But the same thing happens when you're poor. Like you don't even have a good defense attorney. It's like, it's just, yeah, it's an interesting time of that. But it is true, like with women, like I was thinking about it the other day, with the difference between men and women forever, is that as a girl, no matter how old we get,

we are gonna always be inherently afraid. And as a man that just, there's times where you might be a little fearful and there's times that you, but it's not a daily occurrence where forever you're on high alert when you're walking into your car, when someone knocks on your door, it's a different kind of thing that will just never be the same. And I think men are starting to understand it more and the differences, but this too also is really horrible,

can really happen and can really fuck with you just the same way as when women are predators of younger men and the jokes of like, oh, hot for teacher that no, like that's gonna fuck up a guy for the rest of his life. If his first romantic encounter was with a woman that was 15 years older than he, like talk about a weird manipulation,

same way as if a girl's first thing was with a 30 year old and she's 15. Like it's such an imbalance that it will affect you. And then, yeah, and then when you think that, I always think it's so sad because you go in with this excitement of this is gonna lead to a job or to big opportunities. And then when you realize you're just there

for someone's sexual gratification, it's like, it's a double horrible thing because then you tell yourself like, you're so stupid. This was the only reason they wanted you here. It wasn't because you were talented. It wasn't because you were good looking. It wasn't because you were smart. And that's the worst part when it's, like, involving a career move, you know, which is the P. Diddy

and all that stuff. And it's, I mean, it's so scary, too, with how casual it is. It's not, it's not like they're going into a dark dungeon. No, they're going to a beautiful house in the Hamptons in a beautiful neighborhood, like, those kind of things. And everybody's nice there. Oh, can I get you a beautiful house in the Hamptons in a beautiful neighborhood, like those kinds of things. It's like- And everybody's nice there. Yeah, so-

Oh, can I get you a glass of water? Oh, da, da, da. Yeah, I can tell, I just, I feel so bad for the shame they must feel because like, you wouldn't know this. And I mean, now that we're learning more of these stories and even being out in the industry, I mean, I can see that LA is just a rough spot. The industry is a rough place to be in.

There's a lot of like selfish people and- Well, it's always so hard cause you know, you're supposed to have your alert up, right? But so many opportunities come from a social setting. So now you're in this social setting and if you're gay, there's a lot of powerful gay men and they invite you to party and it's all on the up and up and it's all can be great.

So you're not expecting anything and you're thinking, okay, this is great, oh my God, we can work creatively, and then you possibly find yourself in a position that you don't wanna be in. And now you're like, well, if I say anything or whatever, now not only will I lose this opportunity, but I might be completely ousted

by the one group of people that I just met in LA. And it's like you're at the party for like four hours and it's cool. You're like, I'm gonna stay a couple more hours and then you have no idea what it's gonna become later on. So there's like, definitely the consent has gone out the window when it comes to these type of things. I do have to say though,

one thing that I think is so great today is that there is Uber and Lyft. Because back in my day, first of all, there were no, it was like impossible to get a cab in LA. It just didn't exist. You couldn't just walk out in the street and like wave your hand like New York. So you're like at someone's house

and you don't even know the information for the cab number. And then that's a huge ordeal. And you don't have a cell phone. So there'd be lots of times where we'd be like trapped or maybe because it wasn't so easy to get home, maybe that's why we didn't go. Like sometimes you just wouldn't go because you're like, well, how the fuck

am I gonna get home from the Hollywood? Yeah, like up in the hills. Yeah, so I'm just not gonna go or I'm not gonna get that drunk. Like for me, we didn't have, like I said, we didn't have that. So like I would go out to parties and stuff, but I wouldn't drink because I had to drive my car home.

Yeah. And now I think it's good that we have Uber and Lyft and stuff, but then you also like really put your guard down because you're like, oh, I'm not driving and oh, I have my phone to call someone. Yeah. Well, especially at these parties too. I mean, they take the phones too.

They take the phones. So you're just. They take your lifeline. Do you think there's tunnels under the house? I'm sure you've already talked about it, but do you think? I feel like something I said, supposedly they do. And someone, you know, say, yeah, but do you think? I feel like something I said supposedly they do and someone, you know, say, yeah, they do. It's been proven.

So many things I see now and I, you know, I'm no stranger to the TikTok. I love it. But a lot of the stuff out there, you look at it and you're like, okay, wait, this wasn't from a real article source. This was, this is now someone talking and you see them for one minute saying something and then

they show all the photos and then you read the comments and they're like, so-and-so never said this. This is some other person's words put in the AI voice of this person and now you think this person is really profound. But they never spooed off the six things that you should know before leaving college. They never said it. Anybody can put anything together. So you really can't look at that stuff as real. And there's been times I believed things to be real and they're not. So I want to be a little bit more discerning.

And I look and I'm like, wait, is this AI? Is this an AI voice? Did Joe Rogan really say that? I kind of zoom in and I see his mouth. I mean, he gets the most. They use him the most where they, you know, like make it- They make him sound good, like say good things, like profound or-

No, they just, anything what the person is pushing or whatever, like sometimes they use him as just to like sell cranberry gummies or whatever. Like a TikTok shop. Yeah, like he'll be like, have you guys heard about these cranberry gummies? And then the person that explains the cranberry gummies or whatever it is, and then'll be like, have you guys heard about these cranberry gummies? And then the person that explains the cranberry gummies or whatever it is.

And then you're like, there's no way that this was, and that this guy made his way onto Joe Rogan and this was, you know, but they put the video all together and then, yeah, you're like, okay, I guess I'll order these like health gummies or whatever it is. So I think there's a lot of things that we have to be a little more, you know, about

what we hear. But getting back to the tunnels, that is something that I would think, being a former realtor, we would easily know there should be plans of when this house was built, that there should be permits and records. I read one old posting for the home that Diddy had purchased when he did purchase it, and it did refer to a tunnel But the way they described it kind of gave me the same Mindset of like, you know how the playboy mansion has like those pool tunnels like it didn't explicitly say like a tunnel

It said like a grotto kind of tunnel. So, I mean, that's the only reference I saw of tunnels But one person takes that and then it's like we've got articles everywhere of these tunnels Well, it's like it's not proven. It's like the's like the movie, Us, where they have the tunnels and underneath, there's everyone living like, that came from like an urban myth thing that I think the writer heard of and was like, what if this was really the case? And like kind of came with it.

And again, saw another weird interview, like podcast clip of someone saying, you know, there's tunnels underneath all over LA and that's why you never see a famous person stuck in traffic. I'm like, what? This, come on. I actually do see people sometimes like, where are the tunnels? And then they're like, oh, there's tunnels all over LA and they don't, they don't. What about earthquakes? Like this place, we have earthquakes, they're going to shake them out. I don't believe that to be true. Like I just know, I don't believe that to be true.

Again, that would require like thousands of people to keep a secret. And I I don't believe that to be true again that would require like Thousands of people to keep a secret and I just don't believe that thousands of people that are all of a sudden You get anointed by the Illuminati and now they're like here's a whole city under here Here is the map quest for the tunnels. Yeah, only you could have this app So if you ever need to get to the Paramount Studio from Calabasas, you take you 10 minutes. Yeah, you just go around the Oaks and you go down and then there's a tunnel you can drive with just you and the Kardashians. I don't believe it. It's kind of sad because it does take away from like the real things.

Yeah, but it's fun. It's fun to talk about. Okay, now this wasn't so fun. I'm so glad you're talking about this because this is my moment, people. I've been talking about this since 2020 and I'm so glad she's here. Her name's Sherry. Sherry, yep, Sherry Frank. Sherry Franky, this is Ruby Franky's,

one of her daughters. And Ruby Franky, to remind you guys, was the horrible mother that was arrested and is convicted with her friend, who they had a podcast together, who doesn't, about parenting and their children were discovered because one escaped the house and went to the neighbors and they were starving and they were beaten

and there were six kids. There, yep, there's Sherry, Chad, Abby, Julie, Russell and Eve and Russell and Eve were the ones living at Jodie's home, who was the Connections founder. The partner. Yeah, the one they did the parenting advice, which is just sick. And they were both, Eve and Russell were found, you know, duct tape founder-ish. And so just to remind people, before they got caught, the mother got caught and she was separated from her husband at the time, of severely starving and abusing her kids. They had a huge presence on YouTube. Now, I was not familiar with them.

Can you tell us like what their popularity was about? So in early 2020, they had the, well, actually earlier than that, but in 2020, I started speaking about Eight Passengers, a popular YouTube channel, which the mother, Ruby, and earlier than that, but in 2020 I started speaking about Eight Passengers, a popular YouTube channel, which the mother Ruby and Kevin shared everything about their lives, their kids, you know, going bra shopping, their first period.

Eve, Eve at six years old, the teacher texts Ruby says, "'Hey, you know, your daughter forgot lunch today. Can you come bring lunch to school?' Ruby's sitting there watching paint dry on the wall. And she's like, no, tell Eve to starve and not to ask anyone else for food. Her six year old daughter who forgot her lunch, she wants her to sit there hungry to teach her a lesson. Um, I spoke to- And men chose to post that video.

Oh, post it proudly and defend it. And even Chad, I mean her son, I feel so bad for him because she sent him to wilderness camps. When he came back from wilderness camps, bedroom door taken off, bathroom door taken off of a 16 year old boy going through puberty. Not only is that, but he's being recorded all the time. No phone, major punishments. Being recorded and put for content. On content. Yeah.

Major, it's just, there's no privacy within there. So I saw that online and people are, back then I was really advocating against family channels because a lot of these family channels, especially back then, they had this theme of the kid getting injured somehow and then there's this crazy thumbnail with the blood kind of blurred and they're my kid so violent and a lot of my fellow creator friends were like this needs to stop so we started because it was a clickbait clickbait but also it wasn't because the kid was like bleeding and hurt like they would actually film these

moments where it's like I remember one family where they were out by the trampoline and the kid was just screaming and the dad was like, get the camera, get the camera. Minutes before they even go out to see why the kid was screaming. So that's kind of how this family channel operated. Just really acting like almost like a reality producer that when even if they're not filming,

they hear two housewives screaming and then you see them running to capture it. Yeah, not to save their baby, just to go. Yeah, but it's their actual child. That is so, but that is what was their income. Yep, so I made videos about her neglecting them, abusing them, things that I all stand by. And she was actually my first cease and desist letter.

Who was? Ruby? Ruby, Frank, yep. They sent them, sent one to me and actually. Let me, here it is. Yep, yeah, so I got this from them and they actually, at the end of it, he was uh uh go for it so they sent you a cease and desist because you spoke in a video saying what that they were neglecting starving abusing um and when was this what and this was back in 2020 you know what every time i get a cease and desist letter i'm going to start making a documentary because now they've got a movie coming out,

Mormon Mom Gone Wrong, which Sherry's speaking out against. But yeah, they were up to no good. And I knew it. I talked about it on the internet. The daughter is speaking out about the documentary? Documentary and speaking to lawmakers. We saw that screenshot. But why is she against the documentary?

Well, no one asked him for permission. It's kind of like a retelling. Oh, so it's like you're getting exposed again. Oh, it's a Lifetime movie. It's kind of like a retelling. Oh, but else it's like you're getting exposed again. Oh, it's a Lifetime movie. I don't know if Lifetime's doing it, but it's that kind of-esque. They're trying to probe it as like, I don't know if they're not speaking to anyone there.

It's probably a scripted show. Well, it's- A scripted movie maybe. Well, she's not a fan. I could see it like as a Lifetime movie. Maybe you're right. And no, she's not gonna wanna see her life dramatized again. You know, it's just like anybody that's a victim of a crime.

We never think about, oh, it's a mistrial. Now we have to go through the second trial. That's a whole nother thing for that person to relive the day that their child was murdered because all we have to do another trial for the guy on trial. Then when he goes to prison, every seven years, they have to go sit

in front of the board and be like, this is why the person shouldn't get out. So I can see for this. It's very scary. It's like, oh, I don't wanna see the, I don't wanna be driving down Ventura Boulevard and see the poster for Mormon mom gone bad or wherever she lives or whatever it is.

We have to think about why that would be hard. But at the same time, it was a huge news story and we want to see this stuff. So it's like, this is, you know, this is why we watch the Menendez brothers. This is why we talk about it here. Yeah. But I can see. The Mormons are fascinating. I mean, they're capturing everyone's attention. I think Sherry just like, she's never had a chance to figure out who she is. How old is this girl now? Sherry? I want to say she's 19, 20, around that age, 21, she's been in college for a couple years. She's the eldest.

So her brother, I'll just name him Chad. So Chad's been living with the father, from what I understand. So the family's pretty split up, and the two abused children, I believe, are still in state custody. I know Ruby's sister was trying to get the children, because Ruby's sister is also a family vulgar.

It's still family vulgar. Her name is Bonnie Holcomb But that's her sister. They look just like in the face to the horrible mother. Yeah, yeah I think she tried no, she's trying to take those two abused kids away, but oh she's still family blogging Yeah, yeah, and wasn't one of this Wasn't one of the sisters the one that sort of was caught a tally on her sister She was like they they did have a falling out and there was something going on that she was alluding to it's because that Jodie woman definitely brainwashed Ruby. Ruby's not a victim but you know Jodie's messed up. That's why she's using these kids.

So I do think that like Bonnie was isolated away from Ruby due to like Jodie's control over Ruby. Yeah. But I don't think Bonnie's very innocent either. to like Jodie's control over Ruby. But I don't think Bonnie's very innocent either. And honestly, I'm looking at all the Mormon creators over there in Utah a little bit differently because we've seen it like at such a huge wave in the last like two years of like with the Hulu show of these vloggers.

And so I've spoken a lot about it too, and that there's laws that didn't exist in the beginning of a film for children actors. And then because sometimes their parents, whether it was like, you know, the little rascals or things like that would take all their money and then here would this be this person 22 years old, not able to work anymore because they're so known as little Joey in the sitcom, but all their money has been taken by the alcoholic parents. So there's the Kugin

law, which protects them where a parent can only take, it's either 10 or 15% as a manager fee, which I oftentimes think certainly a parent deserves that. If you're a stage mom or stage dad and your kid really is, you know, busy on a show, we need a parent on set. We don't want you having some other job. So I do believe there's, you know, they should have a salary and they should be able to have that be their main thing while protecting their kids, money, which can also maybe not be enough to support all five kids,

but you gotta protect it a little bit. Hence, you know, maybe Amanda Bynes felt like that was somewhat being abused. We know that Jojo Siwa, because she was on a reality show, didn't have that kind of protection. And there were, you know, and then she had all those products. And by having all the products, that's not protected. But she still has a good situation with her family. But I know there was a time where she maybe spoke about

how she was responsible for the mortgage payment. I don't know. So I know there's a lot there. Her mom is definitely the mastermind behind the JoJo Siwa brand and everything. And the reality show and everything she's doing, her music career. Every time I look up to some type of LLC,

I always see her mom's name there. So her mom's on lock when it comes down to it. But I also think that her mom is partially like she's responsible for JoJo's out. Hopefully they seem to have a pretty good right now. She's 19. I think JoJo Siwa is doing great. I think it's brilliant what she's doing and fun and like go for it. And so, but with her and with other people, yeah, it's the, you know, she got her period and look at this one crying. And I see it sometimes and thank God people in the comments are like, why don't you put

down your phone and stop filming your kid having a tantrum? And it is so, you don't, you think with your 30 year old brain, like, what two year old doesn't have a tantrum? My kid will never care. But if the kid is six or seven, and then that tantrum video that maybe went viral, the class sees it, it is embarrassing. It is, because it's like, you were crying.

Like, we're not understanding it like you don't have, they don't have the maturity of realizing, like, well, of course I cried it too. Yeah. And they're not getting what she said, there's no permission. There's no, they don't have the right to say, see me. And then of course there's the whole element of the creepers.

And they're recognized or known. Yes, recognize people walking up to them, I recognize you. And the creepiness of then when someone has a little precocious girl all over their TikTok and there's 18 million followers. I'm like, so are all 18 million just women that just love little toddlers that are just like, oh, I hope I have a daughter as cute as yours? No. No. No, and then you see how many times certain videos,

like a little two-year-old. Like saved or something or shared. Eating a popsicle, and then there are certain moms that like, they know that, and they purposely go, let's give it to, let's have her eat her first popsicle. It's disturbing. And just show that video, and it's like, cause that girl knows it's gonna get this many views, which then

I can profit some other way. Yeah. I wrote a phrase called sharenting. Sharenting. That's actually what Bobby Antoff said. Oh, OK. She was like, I'm stopping. Because she built her career.

Now, there's just two pictures in our area. The one on the right. This is Bobby, who has a very popular podcast. What do you think of her as a comedian? I know she's a different kind of style, kind of more dry. What's your thought? I mean, I think it's brilliant that she is where she is.

She again was one of those, you know, pandemic girls that popped. And I remember seeing a video where she was like, this is my husband and this is the way we kissed. She did this really awkward kiss and said how they slept on different floors. Not surprisingly split up. They got divorced.

So I was like, okay, at least you're telling the truth. And she's a young mom and has three kids. But I think everyone can have a different journey to being famous in this business. The business is very different than what it was five years ago, you know? So it's like, there's no like,

oh, you've got to do it this way to be funny. So at first I was kind of like, I don't get it. I don't get why this is something that you want to listen to for an hour, the weird schtick. And then I almost thought it was like, she was doing this like Andy Kaufman weird thing. And then when she did an interview where she was like, well, it's an act.

And then I was like, okay, well, now either two things are gonna happen. You're gonna stop doing the act and you're gonna be able to parlay cause you're actually like kind of smart and fun or it's gonna die. And it seems like it's continuing okay. Yeah, no, it seems like she kind of built a niche out

for a lot of people were kind of, I think, part of her come up was that people didn't understand it. They were just so confused at like, why is she kind of being disinterested and she doesn't know anyone, anything about her guests? But it wasn't like an original comedy bit. It was like, you know, she was basically doing like, between two ferns and like she was doing...

But what's interesting is when, and I saw it one time on America's Got Talent, these two guys came out and they were doing something, and my sons thought it was really funny, and I'm like, that was a bit on a living color. It was the exact same bit they did on a living, and they're like, what? So what's kind of smart is like,

if you are trying to do some weird thing on the, you know, on TikTok or whatever, you could probably, you know, research some, research some old thing. And to the, to the 15 year old home, they're not, they're not going to know that it's like not that original and they're not going to care if it makes them laugh. It makes them laugh, you know? And so yeah, I think she's had some really moments. Now her little bit with JoJo Siwa I did think was really good. It was funny. I thought it was really good.

And she's like, so why have the car still wrapped? So I don't know. She's still doing the kind of clueless thing or is she? Yeah, I think it all depends on who she's paired with, sometimes how it reads. Like she just needs someone who's an extreme character because Robbie then almost comes off relatable because it's like, that's how I'd be acting too,

around JoJo Siwa, kind of like, oh, why are you doing this? I mean, so when we're talking about the Frankie family, I was just like, who has been outspoken? So she's literally, I found two, and online, she's one of the ones that's like, yeah, I stopped sharing my kids, and she doesn't need to, she's done this.

That's the other thing, that's a luxury too. So it's like in all the criticism, I don't know what it's like to all of a sudden have a really happy family, everybody's fine, nothing creepy has happened to you, you guys are making 20,000 a month and this way you can stay at home. You can make homemade meals with your kids

because you're doing it while you film it. And now you're hearing us talk about it on Juicy Scoop that you shouldn't do your kids. And you know, if you don't have the kids, it just maybe not, won't be as fun as you just making the pancakes or editing them out. And so like, I get it, I just don't think you should even start going down the path.

If you're a young mom, don't start it. Yep, there's no solution for it. I mean, of course people want to record their children, but it's different than when you build a career or an identity. Even Bobbi O's quote saying that she just did not want to establish a digital footprint for her kids. Especially with someone who like, like, you know, she's likable now. Who knows what's gonna happen in the future?

And she is such an interesting personality that like, I agree with her. I wouldn't want like these kids to have to be known as Bobby's mom and then go to school. And like, I like what you're saying too. You have to keep in mind like these kids, their peers are viewing it. Think about it like from a 10 year old's perspective, they don't know better. They're a judge.'s laugh at them. And I also say it as like, there's times where your kid loves doing gymnastics.

They want to do gymnastics every day. They love it, love it, love it. And then maybe at 12, they're like, I don't want to do it anymore. And you're like, but you love gymnastics. Yeah, but I don't love it anymore. But we have to do the videos for the followers and all that. But it's the same thing with the videos.

They might have been really into it. They might have loved it when you started with them at four. They might have been like, I wanna do with sassy video, mommy. But then when they're eight, they're like, I don't want to, I don't want you filming me. And so it's like kids have a right to change. They didn't sign a 10-year contract with you

to be your subject. And I think, you know, and it can be so great. I mean, I was just like, wow, I wish, you know, I wish I could go back on my Instagram, and you know, from 15 years ago when it didn't exist, and see like my kids when they were little and stuff like that. Like, it is wonderful, I get it,

but it's a matter of like posting. Like, you can do it, keep it in your phone, put it on whatever. But yeah, so that's interesting. And then you said somebody else. Not much to add on her, but her name's Maya Knight. She just had an interesting take in 2022. She just said that her followers

became entitled to her own children and that they were taking pictures of her and public and her kids. So just unsolicited taking photos of her kids and then posting them on social media, which is why I actually took a look at her page. And I mean, you could see the kids in the actual like profile picture, the backs of them.

But other than that, she's literally these two are the only ones I even went through trashy BTLs like please go through every who's any influencer, actress or anyone right now that's like relevant and but the person that would take a photo of someone in the wild, it's like, I just saw like five people post a video of Andy Cohen rocking out by himself at, you know, at Grateful Dead, which I'm sure he's fine with. But it's the same thing, whether it's Andy Cohen

or the cute family. And you're like, oh my God, my sister would die. I just, I just got to film them at getting ice cream to show my sister. Like I don't think that the fan necessarily thinks they're doing anything like, you know, nefarious or horrible or like trying to ruin this kid's life.

But that's what it is. It's just like if your kid, I mean, people watch TikTok just as much as as our generation watch TV. So it's just like if your child was on a Disney show, they're going to be approached and seen just as much. You probably, you probably are getting more views than if you were, if your kid was on a Disney show at this point.

You know? I think she kind of got it too because she like understood, oh, the way to stop this is I just cannot post my children. So she's one of the only ones that I guess really got, because she understood, oh, the way to stop this is I just cannot post my children. So she's one of the only ones that I guess really got it, because she understood, yeah, people are going to take pictures no matter what. You can't go and just call them creeps or blame them, because we're in this world where people are fascinated

with each other. Kind of reminds me of Chapel Road, how she was complaining about people coming up and taking pictures. It's like, well, I mean, then you're going on stage in front of hundreds of thousands of people. People are going to want to. I think sometimes people just aren't used to it though.

They aren't used to it. They don't anticipate what that's like and that it's just kind of like you're never really off. And so it can be, you know, a heart adjustment, you know. Kim Kardashian is pretty much a single mom, according to a source telling people, to her four kids. And she just turned 44. And...

She turned 44? Yeah. Thought she was 42. I think 44. No, that makes a difference. I mean, she'll be like two years different. And then here is, this is why she's a single mom, because Kanye and Bianca are still going strong.

And here's a photo of Kanye in Tokyo. They spent a lot of time in Tokyo. And Bianca, you know, needed some attention. She's just wearing sheer nylons with G string underwear underneath. Does she even have a top on? What's that thing hanging? Is that like a little tail on the back of that?

You see that little strap? I don't know, but does she even have a top on? At least she might just be completely topless. I don't, maybe the law's, I mean, I'm surprised she hasn't gotten in trouble for being nude in public in America. I don't, maybe the laws, I mean, I'm surprised she hasn't gotten in trouble for being nude in public in America. I don't know if it's different over there in Tokyo, but this just looks uncomfortable.

She looks lost. I don't know what this whole Australian trip she had the last few weeks was, because typically when they break up, she goes to Australia, and this time was the first time they went around saying that they were single. So maybe this is her like, make up with me kind of fit. This is our way to try to get them back. I don't know what her intention is with this weirdness. What's your theory about her? I mean, my original theory was that she was in on it.

She was getting paid a salary. She's like what Julia Fox could have been. Like not screwing, nothing. Just be with me, be famous. Almost like his beard? Like, I don't know, like be famous. Yeah, maybe be famous. I'm gonna make you famous. You're gonna do what I say. You're gonna go to these things.

And then, you know, I'll pay you so much a month and so much at the end of it. I don't know. But now I'm kind of like, it'll pay you so much a month and so much at the end of it. I don't know. But now I'm kind of like, it's gone on so long. And the whole thing with this latest lawsuit of this girl saying that like, he, you know, was sexting, you know, weird stuff to her. He wants to like, F her mom. And then he also like bragged about how he like stepped the toxicity of their relationship

up a level. Like he's saying, his assistant like, oh, I just asked to like F her mom and for her to watch. Now our toxicity is up to a new height. And that same kind of message. So it's like, I think he thrives on this, this chaos. I mean, clearly with this LLC and everything he does, it's chaotic.

So if it is real, it's a total mess. I still can't get over that she got power of attorney over his estate when they got married. To me- Locked it? Yeah, when they got married, she got her- Okay, well now this makes sense. I did not realize that.

When they filed, I mean, their wedding that was like real. I mean, under report- So are they really married or we still don't know? The paperwork is like, is what we found is like December 20, 20, 2022. Was it just then? I mean, they've been together for a minute now, huh? That's why I'm like, I don't know what this is.

And then when she's with the kids, she's got normal clothes on and everyone that meets her says she's lovely. And I'm sure she is lovely. The night I met Britney Spears, they were there at the same place. Did you meet them too? No, I didn't.

Where were you? Chateau Marmont. I want to go there someday. Wait, do you have to be like a celebrity to go there though? I don't know what the deal is. Apparently they weren't happy that I mentioned the name Chateau Marmont. And I was like, then don't invite me to the first dinner and children.

I'm like, I don't need to go back then. I don't really care. But that's annoying though too. People are gonna be spotted there. It's not like you're spilling some secret. I mean, I don't know. So anyway, now I feel like, yeah, and then the way that she was dealing with the person that was fixing the Malibu home before they sold it, all that. So maybe there is something,

but maybe, I hope that she's in on it. I hope that she's not a complete victim of a cult leader. I hope that she is part of this. She's a willing person. She's down for it. She's making tons of money every month that she stays with him. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, do you think that she,

I would like to think that she's operating in some level of consciousness, but I do think she's somewhat delusional too. I interviewed this person. They were on a page called Kanye's Post. She wears a green wig and a green suit. And she came over to my house whenever Kanye and Bianca were going through it. And she was actually texting Bianca.

And she's been really in the mix of it when it comes to Milo, the guy that he used to be his chief of staff and that resigned over the easy PORN. What's PORN? So YouTube coded. I was actually watching your podcast. What's P. Oh, sorry. So YouTube could it. I was actually watching your podcast. I was like, oh, she says everything. Well, that's probably why I. I probably do.

Yeah, it is a problem that I do, but I'm like, whatever. OK, go on. Yeah. So I mean, she I even know I lost my track. No, you're talking about you had the mile. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So she I mean, the way that she was texting this person, she like, there's a way that they speak about Kanye and they have to don defy everything.

So she was like a big part of don defying her and Milo. So anytime that Kanye is texting someone, you have to text in a certain way. And if you do not, then you just cannot communicate. What kind of a way? It's like very straightforward. Yes, no, like I remember one request he made was like, can you please get this done? This person's like, I've been awake for like 26 hours.

He's like, not acceptable. And then essentially you run your communications through Milo or Bianca so they could don defy it and then pass it along to him because there's only one certain way that he can communicate. Got it. Okay, got it. Yeah, that's it. She was the person. The liaison. Between the guy fixing the Malibu house that they eventually sold where he was like destroying

this beautiful piece of architecture and you know. And supposedly the security guard that was hired there for $30 an hour has not been paid for securing the property last year. Yeah, he filed a suit recently. Oh really? Yeah, there's so many suits that Carney's involved with. I don't know what happens when there's these celebrities that have so many lawsuits. Is he just settling all the time? Because I keep track of every lawsuit that's pretty much filed against celebrities, and

a lot of times they just are gone. So it must be a settlement. Or these people can't afford to go after him. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure it just goes straight to the lawyer and they either write to the other, you know, kind of the other lawyer and like, okay, what do we want? What do you want to do? Or, or good luck. And then the attorney, if it's not a quick settlement, that attorney then probably drops representing the person because it's probably not, it is probably

frivolous. And I mean, I think that assistant's going to have a hard time. I really do. Oh, I know. I mean, that's why she's running to the press. I don't think that's going to be like a slam dunk. Yeah. People aren't loving it. It's not being received well. Like even when I covered it too, it's not, you know, people aren't running to the rooftops to like defend this woman. Did you see in his statement about her at the end of it, they said that this is not the first time that I think her name is Laura has gone after a celebrity. Jay Leno is also suing her for stealing his chin. That's how they ended their statement.

I was like, what the hell, this lawyer is so messy. I guess she's got a big jaw. Oh my God. Poor girl. Oh, and trying to get in the fun. Okay, this is Lenny Kravitz, and this is a controversial subject. Very woke of him.

He's just like wearing very strange clothes. It's not the Lenny Kravitz I knew. And he's become very thirsty in a way. He's wearing a halter top, like a definitely, not that it's fine, you can wear a woman's top, but it's like a sexy bath glass top as he's singing. And I just have been noticing this lately and I just wanna put it out there

for anyone else's notice that he's becoming just real, real thirsty, real in his Instagram posts. I saw one where he was like, like took a photo of himself and he was like, he had a towel around him. And it was just like, it felt very like Lisa Renna, like, like, oh my God, I look fucking damn good at this age. And then like I zoomed in, I could tell he was clearly sucking in his stomach, which he has a great body. He looks amazing and I do love his music. But I just wondered if anyone else has noticed

the evolution of Luddy Kravitz's thirst. I mean, he's gotta be feeling himself. I'm wondering if he's like, is he ozempic? I mean, he's never was like big, but you know, he's feeling himself differently. I don't know if this is maybe, you know, he's trying to get in with the, you know, the gender fluid type of crowd, maybe trying to stay young in a way. It definitely never takes up the sunglasses.

So who knows the eyes might scream 60, but the rest of them looks very, very young and fit. I just, I just wanted to just put it out there and see. Okay, you brought me this juicy scoop. Tell me about it. Selena Gomez is actually doing a movie titled Amelia Perez, and she's got her co-star right over here on the side, Edgar Ramirez,

handsome looking guy. They were actually at the Sabrina Carpenter concert where they were dancing rather you know, rather intensely. I mean, that's the happiest I've seen Selena Gomez in years. Look at her. And he's handsome. So when we saw these clips, it was questionable because look at her boyfriend, Benny Blanco

from the previous slide. She has been lusting over him for months now. So it's like a little bit weird to see her with another guy, especially because he's so much more handsome than her boyfriend. In your opinion. I think so, but in a lot of others. So here's the boyfriend, Benny's the songwriter. And this guy is the director or the actor?

He's another actor within it. And you know, a lot of people, I don't know much about Edgar. I don't know if you know him, but all my comments said he was gay and the people were fighting saying, no, he's not gay. So I mean, if she's throwing it back on a gay best friend, I can get it That could be on Google. There's no rep, you know, there's no record of this. So Selena then went to dinner yesterday Registered as a gay In my catalog, I don't see him in the

Register, okay, you have to register at a certain point Yeah, he's not in my book. But um on the 21st, I think that would be yesterday They were spotted together having dinner together. And I guess this was Selena's way of kind of clearing up that, no, she's not hooking up with this guy. Maybe she's hooking up with both. Because I mean, look at that last picture. It was like, oh, for real.

What do you think about Fitty Cent? And he is just defending his decision to publicly speak out about. Sean, supposedly he's got this documentary Yeah, great documentary going through Netflix purchased it I mean he's been talking about this for a long time and when he was talking about it like over a year ago I thought he was bluffing but then we saw the Netflix A year ago. He was just I mean he's always hated diddy

But he was going on saying that he's gonna he's got victims coming forward is around so, you know It's about a year since Cassie had filed her lawsuit. So this was kind of around the time where he was posting that he's doing a Diddy documentary. He's going to expose everything. I want to say it was probably like December last year. It was very vague. He didn't, he didn't, he didn't allude to like new victims coming forward or anything, just that it's going to be all of it. Granted, now we know so much more about what Diddy was involved in, so I'm questioning like, what is going to be new in this? We still don't know anybody else.

Well, the loss- There's rumors that people are paying off that might be mentioned. I'm like, well, we still don't have one other name. Well, Denzel Washington is one I've heard. But that's only, that's, I've heard that from- That he's paid it off? No, no, no, from, as an accomplice with the... Oh, allegedly.

From Ali Carter. That's where my information is coming from. And Ali Carter is this girl. She's done a lot of videos. Okay, so what do you think about her? Because I don't know what to think. I don't know about... I mean, the Jaguar ride I talked a lot about.

I feel like either she hasn't done any new videos or they're definitely not showing up in my feed like they used to. Oh, no. She's been gone for like, five years. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I feel like either she hasn't done any new videos or they're definitely not showing up in my feed like they used to. She's been gone for like four or five days or six days. I haven't seen anything on Instagram. Yeah, you're right. I've been trying to reach out to her.

Yeah, so I don't know, goosebumps. Yeah, and well, you know, a Pierce got the cease and desist, Pierce Morgan. So then that happened. This girl, Allie Carter, I didn't really talk about her that much, but people say there's evidence of her being in a music video that she said, I was trafficked.

I was a victim of the Riverside Social Services, Child Protective, what do you call it? CPS? Yeah, CPS. I don't know. I mean, when she speaks, I mean, it... It's just so, like, it's still all this information is so hard to understand, so then, hearing her speak about this, like, I don't know,

part of me just goes to right where, conspiracy theories, is she just mentally unwell, I don't really know, but then I'm like, wait, damn, these lawsuits are being filed. It probably happened. I mean, it probably all happened. And, you know, but the Jaguarite stuff did become comical. And it was, you know, a lot of people doing the impression

of just being like, why do you think Aliyah didn't pack her shoes. Saying a lot of stuff without saying nothing. Yeah, a lot of things. It was like, everybody knows, everybody knows, you know, like that kind of thing. And then there were some really like funny videos about like, you know, and she even posted one

that was like a funny parody about like her talking about Sesame Street or something. Someone doing her talking about Sesame Street. So I'm like, okay, so she gets the humor. But like, yeah, it makes it harder to take her seriously if you're, you know. But I mean, it is interesting that she has never been sued. Well, maybe now because I mean, the Pierce thing,

this just happened and then the fact that she's gone silent on a page that she's pretty often posting on, I wonder if she's- Maybe she has been sued. Figured out, oh, good luck to Jaguar Wright. Yeah, I mean, can't imagine going against the Carters. Yeah, now we need to make sure she's okay. Yeah. Well, speaking of which, what did you think of the whole Beyonce thinking Beyonce? Oh, I'm actually looking into that and I found so many more records

than what they've been going viral. It's crazy. There's so many more people, not just singers, that have thanked Beyonce. Down to Oprah, Oprah mentioning Beyonce. I saw that, yeah, there was a video that someone put another like 12 people, where it's so awkward. Like it makes no sense. It's like if all of a sudden I got up there

and was receiving an award and I thanked Beyonce. And you'd be like, Heather, I know you like her song, but like you were not listening to it every day before you went out and did a standup set. Like it's weird. It is weird. And it's sometimes not even in award things. It's just like so many mentions of her

and so many different capacities to try to get it. She's like broken barriers as black woman. She means a lot to society, but there's something very odd because like I know plenty of people who like know Beyonce, different capacities to try to get it. She's like broken barriers as black woman. She means a lot to society, but there's something very odd because like, I know plenty of people who like know Beyonce, but then aren't fans of her. And how is every celebrity in power?

Does that mean that like, you're told by somebody, hey, you're up for this award. If you win it, you gotta thank Beyonce. And then you go, why? And they say, otherwise it'll be horrible for your career and you could be killed. So just thank Beyonce because Jay-Z doesn't want to go home with her in the car if she wasn't thanked three times. So they are the king and queen, follow the rules. Like it does feel very much like olden days with like the King, don't piss off, you know,

that you're the court jester and just like keep these people happy. I don't know, but it is too many people. It is weird. It is fucking weird. Well, not to be a conspiracy theorist too, but like, I mean, part of me, I think about like the evil side and like,

what if there is this evil Illuminati world? Like again, maybe not the Illuminati, but like maybe they're all just so scared of her. Maybe she is the Queen. And they're like, what if there is this evil Illuminati world? Like again, maybe not the Illuminati, but like, maybe they're all just so scared of her. Maybe she is the queen. And they're like, if you have the chance, you think you're queen because they know in this spiritual world that we're all protected from because we haven't sold our souls that there is some demise. That's again, a conspiracy theory. What if it was not about like her coming to kill you? And it really just was something that was like among the people that would then, you

know, tell their client or tell somebody like, listen, you're going to get up to your own half at which time. But think about it. She has been really great. She really she wants to work with you. Oh, you know what? What if it was like that? Maybe maybe it was like she wants to work with you on an album.

I suggest strongly suggest you just make sure that you thank her at some point. It's so weird, like these people have never thought about Beyonce and started their life and they're getting the best- I don't know. Biggest award they've ever gotten. They're like, yeah, make sure you thank Beyonce.

It seems so awkward. I mean, maybe there's like a stat to it where if you thank her, you automatically go 10 points up and just everything. Like the first video I saw had like three people. And I still think the Adele one was so weird. It was weird. It was desperate.

Like her just being like, I wanna break this and have it. You got everything to me if I didn't have you. I didn't know how I was gonna wake up tomorrow. It was strange. And it felt like a fearness. Like not a fearful. It did not feel like a happy moment.

No, it felt like a fearful. The Lizzo thing was too much, but the Lizzo scene you could maybe understand it because Lizzo was in the same genre of a Beyonce. And she's a black woman too. So I could see that being inspiration. But then there was like, I was like, okay. But the latest video I saw that had the new eight people

and it was like an Asian woman. It was like Oprah. I was like, all right, this can't be denied. Yeah, what is going on? This is bizarre. But now if nothing happens and they continue being scot-free and they're $200 million Malibu home,

the next awards ceremony, it'll be like nobody will do it. And she'll just want this time to stop. I don't think she'll joke about it. Yeah. You know what I'd say herself. She'll just be like, you know. It's getting too weird.

Like she's probably even freaked out by it too. And then I also saw someone say that in the beginning she would thank God and then for like 10 years she never did. And only recently did she start to do that again. Like when someone pointed it out. Oh, that's good to know. I'm gonna include that in Deep Diamond.

And then also people say this doesn't mean the Illuminati. Well, okay, yeah. She does it all the time, but it's supposed to be like diamond? Why does she have to do it though? You know, too. Why is it all the time? Like when you see it, like it's like on the Super Bowl and all this stuff and it's just kind of, and it'll be like, all the single ladies. Yeah.

All the single ladies. And you're like, wait, that is so weird. It's a choice. So it means something. Just we don't know what. I don't know. Why do we even need to do any symbols? Unless you're part of a group.

It's strange. Ben Affleck, according to InTouch, this is just a great. Even getting plugs. Wow, hair plugs. They said, Ben's now dying his hair, getting manicures, pedicures, getting wax from head to toe. He's even getting hair plugs an insider tells InTouch.

Maybe he's joining my team. Well. When he's coming out. At least he's getting that horrible tattoo removed. That's actually the best decision he's made so far. The back tattoo. You like it? No, no, getting it removed.

He needs to get that removed. But I don't know that he's getting it removed. No, he is. That was actually reported like a week ago, I guess. That he is? He's starting to. Yeah, the bright colorful thing, which. Well, then why is that he's getting it removed. That was actually reported like a week ago, I guess. That he is? Yeah, the bright colorful thing. Well then why is that? No, it's all over his back.

Yeah, yeah. So why is that? Well then... This is a new update because I guess like I read some bits that he was like getting it removed in spite of JLo because she spoke to Andy Cohen so often. She hated the tattoo. This is a new update where I guess now he's getting his tattoo removed. Now he's also dying his hair getting pedicur, pedicures waxed from head to toe, which

And they were all in a thing together. He, Jennifer Garner and JLo. It must have been something for their kids. I guess so. Which is cool. I mean, the kids are friends. They, you know, that would be nice if they could keep that relationship going somewhat. But I don't know. It's weird to see like Jennifer Garner and Ben are just like rolling up together. I mean, and then sad to see JLo just walking up alone. Who do we think she'll go for next?

Just make a prediction if you had to guess a type type, you don't have to type. You know, I would love to see her with someone older, a little older and calmer, just because I think she needs to just be a hot mess and this guy needs to stay home and he's just too, doesn't even want to go to the award shows and she could feel okay with that. That's not what she wants. She definitely wants to look her.

I think she's going to go for another hot athlete. Yeah, yeah. I can see that. I mean, she looks great. Yeah, I mean, did you see that video of her coming down out of window? I don't know if that was new and she's wearing a bikini and heels.

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