Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Bachelorette Lawsuits, Mormon Wives Move to CA with Zack Peter

Episode Date: March 24, 2026

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My God, do we have a lot to talk about? So I had to bring one of our favorites, Zach Peter from No Filter with Zach Peter. Oh, God. You got here and I'm like, save it, save it, save it. We're not recording yet. Oh, my God. So, of course, we all know what has happened with Taylor, Frankie Paul,

from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. She was The Bachelorette. They had filmed the whole season. It was supposed to air this Sunday. Then the, um, she got, got in a wicked fight with her baby daddy, number two, Dakota, which came out a week or half ago. It was an incident that happened February 24th.

It started to bubble up, oh my God, what is it? Then they stopped filming on Secret Lives of Mormon Wives where we're like, wow, like did some other physical thing happen? Yeah. Then, I'm just catching everyone up. Then TMZ received the. video on Thursday of her incident that did get her arrested. It was a felony, which then I think was downgraded to a misdemeanor. We no one had ever seen this video of when she was physically

attacking Dakota baby daddy number two. And she was throwing metal little bar stools that would be on like a kitchen island. Yeah. She was playing whackamol with him. I mean, he was like dodging. He was like the Matrix, dodging the bullets. He's got his phone on. He's filming it. And in throwing the second chair that we saw, it hit her daughter who appeared to be off the camera, but on a couch. Yeah.

In the report, it does say that the little girl had a goose egg on her head. And we knew all about that. That is how the series began. Yeah. That was the opening scene of, you know, that she was arrested. they go on to have sex, not have sex, be together, be jealous, be cheating, da-da-da-da. And I mean, I'm watching the show and she has already agreed to be on The Bachelorette. Yeah.

In around episode four of season four. She also meets this cute guy on TikTok that she picks up. By the way, I just thought that was, like there is something weird. You're picking up a guy you've never met before. You're also filming a show. Yeah. And like she had not a speckle of makeup on, not that she needs a lot. Yeah.

But she was wearing like baggy sweats and like an ill-fitting t-shirt. That's her style. I know. It's kind of interesting. I'm not into that style. But it's kind of interesting. I mean, I guess. I don't even know if she was really into the dude or it was just for the cloud and the

TikTok and the story. Yeah. But yeah, it's a mess. So then she finds out that he slept with somebody while the dad talk people. went and did a episode of the new villa that's coming out where they're in England and she gets on the phone with him and she's screaming at him and she's crying

and she's like, did you finish? Did you come? Did you? And then later on in another episode she's telling the girls, I like to hear it. It turns me on to hear all the different positions you put the girl in and I'm like, what? Sick? So then that's who they choose for the Bachelet. Yeah. And they do it. And I'm like, once I saw the video, I did, I put out an Instagram and TikTok video where I was like, I predict they will not air this.

There's just no way. And later in the day, they said we're not airing it. There's video of them, guys climbing up in Hollywood and taking down the sign of her. And so much else has come out. I mean, what was your initial thought? And we'll just walk through all the news articles. Yeah. I think people are getting confused because they're like, well, this was 2023.

This happened a long time ago. We heard about it. We saw it on the show. But it's the fact that there are new allegations that came out. So it was the, and it was actually two nights that she had allegedly assaulted him. Around the 23rd and the 24th. Okay. What do you know about that?

So I'm assuming it had to do with custody of their son ever and like transfer of custody of like, okay, it's your turn or whatever. I don't know if they were sleeping together or back together or whatever, but they had contact. and it was, I believe, the 23rd that they first got into a fight. He then allegedly tried to call the cops. She told him, no, no, I'm so sorry. I love you. It was the doorknob, whatever. And then she leaves.

She came back the next night. And then that's when she allegedly choked him and she left scratch marks all over his neck. And then it was that next morning. Choked him with a necklace. Yes. So I assume he was wearing a necklace and she was pulling the necklace. Pulling it from behind or something.

And then he had scratch marks all over his neck. And that's when I think his friend, we don't know who the friend is, It could be Jordan. It could be dad talk. It could be somebody. But the friend saw the scratch marks and then called the police. And then they came over and took a report. But as of right now, there hasn't been an arrest or any charges that have been filed.

She's still currently on probation from 2023. So there were multiple charges that were brought against her back in 2023 for that incident. And then she took a plea agreement. So she took a plea deal to reduce it from a felony to a misdemeanor contingent on her. completing her probation, which was supposed to be lifted this August. So she was so close to being off probation had she just continued good behavior. But that's why I think ABC moved forward with her. Interesting that she's on probation, but she was able to film in L.A. for all those months.

I always thought probation kind of meant you had to kind of stay in the area, but maybe not. Well, I think it depends. I think it depends on the actual crime and what your probation terms are. Whereas her, she can argue that work takes her into different states. But so ABC, yes, was aware of all this. But I think her team went to ABC and was like, she's on probation. She's not going to do, she hasn't done anything the last two and a half years. She's not going to do anything to jeopardize losing her kids or violating her probation.

Because then it goes back to a felony if she doesn't complete her probation, which was set to be up in August. So the whole season would have aired and everything. And all she had to do was just stay with, you know, not abusing anybody, allegedly, until August. But I mean, whatever happened between the two of them and their toxic cycle, clearly she did it again. And so that's what then, so it was news of her assaulting him again. And then I guess the wives, the other Mormon wives, they then told Hulu, we're not filming anymore. Whatever the details that they heard from that incident were. And it did happen in front of their son ever, similar to like what happened in 2023 in front of her daughter.

This time it was in front of the son. And so the other wives were like, we don't want to film right now. until they figure out what's happening with the two of them. If there's going to be an arrest, if they're going to be charges. So they all called and I think they had a meeting with the Disney executives and said, we're not filming until this gets resolved. And then that's what then prompted everybody to dig up the 2023 arrest and recirculate all of that. So of course everybody was like, you know, that our team Taylor was like, Dakota is a narcissist.

He's also this thing called Darvo, which is like defa. deflect, attack, I don't know what all the words mean, but like basically it's you know how to push her buttons. Yeah. And I just, that really pissed me off because I feel that's very gender biased. Yeah. If a woman, you know, is in a domestic violence situation, you know, what? Because you told your husband get a job you deserve to be hit. Yeah. You know, like, what are you talking about, you know? And so what did he feel? Do you know that Nicole Brown Simpson had those polarites of her abuse that she put in a safety posit pot because she was like, I'm too scared to tell anybody now.

Yeah. But maybe one day. So the fact that he, if he did release it to a friend, to TMZ or whatever, and he decided then to do it, it wasn't just shine. I don't think you can think he's a piece of shit. I don't think it was, I, I'm jealous that she slept with 24 men or whatever he thinks. I wanted this to ruin her reputation. I think what happened was the incident on the 23rd and the 24th happened.

And he was, you know, he's thirsty. This is his job. He's reading all of it. And people were still defending her and going after him. He knows how to push her buttons. He's awful. He's making her crazy, da-da-da. And I think because of that, he was like, it's time somehow this video gets out.

Either he gave his friend. Now, the friend wrote something saying, we did not give it to TMZ. Yeah. But there's a TMZ watermark on it, meaning unlike the footage they have, which we'll get into about Justin Timberlake. Yeah.

That, they don't own that of Justin Timberlake being pulled over. Correct. Technically, they own this now. So that tells me someone gave it to them, gave them the rights to it. Yeah. Maybe there was some money exchanged. And if he did, I don't know.

He's, I don't know. You know, other women would probably do the same in that position. I think it's unfair to judge. I think it's strange that people are judging the release of the footage more than they're judging the behavior on the footage. That's my issue because everybody that's defending Taylor and I get it, they have their theories and their speculation of like, well, we don't know what he did beforehand and we don't know which. Oh, like, oh, remember, P. Diddy, P. Duffy said, Cassie accused him of cheating and took all of his clothes. And that's why he had to go in the hallway with just a towel on and beat the shit out of her to get his bag of clothes. That's what she allegedly did before.

So do we think that she deserved that? You know, like, who cares if it of what he said or did before? She was, it wasn't one time. Yeah. He was stop, stop, stop. And she would not stop. Yeah. She would not calm down.

And even when the daughter cries, she wasn't like, oh my God, I didn't even know my daughter was in the room. What the fuck is wrong with me? She didn't tend to the daughter. She didn't say, I'm sorry, baby. She didn't call the cop. She didn't call a doctor. She didn't get an ice pack. She was in this rage and whether that rage can be helped with, you know, mental facilities or drugs or whatever she needs to do.

But like, are you kidding me with that? Well, not only that, but every, I get everyone has their like theories about what he could have done or whatever. But just sticking to the facts of what happened. that night because we have video evidence of it. We have body cam footage of them that night and they're telling of what happened that night. And yes, she does say that he pushed her. He pushed her into some toys at some point in the night. But there was a police investigation. There was an arrest. There were charges. And she, before a judge, pleaded guilty to doing this. And not only that, but has since gone on several other podcast interviews talking about it and saying I was the aggressor and the evidence showed that in court.

Those are things that she has admitted. So even if you want to ignore what the video shows and the objective evidence of what actually happened that night. But then hashtag believe women. Believe her when she says I'm guilty and I'm the aggressor. Right. She does say this on this one particular podcast that this person puts together, cat's chat. She says, as we know, I was

trying to attack him and I assaulted him. End of quote. Next quote. There was enough evidence there that I was like the aggressor. And I was like, yeah, I was. She also says, she also went on another podcast sitting there crying, explaining

on all, saying it's not like, you know, it's not like it was all him. Like I was guilty of it. Like she very, and I think that's why people do love her because she does, she tells everything, she is honest and vulnerable and everything. And so they knew all this. I mean, when you go on one of these shows, whether you're going to be the host, a contestant, or the bachelor, bachelorette, they look into everything.

This one guy said they found a time that I got a jaywalking ticket in college going to a bar. You know, certainly there's been times where producers have missed something, whether it's a 90-day fiance person or something and they're like oh my god we realized his former girlfriend had a restraining order against him so they make sure there's none of that but she's such a commodity with bringing the new audience of secret wives of Mormon wives lives to it uh all the um her demographic her you know no other bachelor's going to bring eight million you know followers and all this other stuff so they obviously i don't think they ever saw this video because he had it yeah So they did go off of the reports and then it was downed.

And listen, when we watched it, I didn't think that she was throwing chairs. Not to that degree. I thought they got in a wicked fight. They maybe threw some stuff at each other. Yeah. And, you know, that's really bad. And the daughter somehow was present. I never thought it was that.

And I mean, this happens with men, you know, and it's like an NFL player gets accused of, you know, gets arrested for hitting his wife. for whatever. And he gets, you know, there's been cases. Okay, you can't play in the next two games. And then the video comes out. Yeah. Where he's throwing her across a room with a baby in the corner and it's like a rag doll. Well, guess what? Now you're not playing anymore. You know, it's like video. You just can't deny it. But I'm, I'm like, you know, now there's so much going on with this, this girl, this was like on like Thursday, night of Friday. Her name's Jay the fade and she said

I don't think they even shot the Bachelor. They did shoot The Bachelor. Bachelorette. She was kind of like there was a time where everyone was going crazy and she was like I don't even know because they were showing some of the dates and stuff that she actually did go on.

Yeah, they filmed it. Yeah, like she went and went to a football game with her guy, one of her dates and you know, they did a Chippendales thing in Las Vegas. And then she picked a guy. And then she picked this guy, Doug, who is.

And now he's like a singer? He's a singer. Our friend of unpopular Jacques. He posted that, you know, he obviously, they got engaged. He like wished her well before the video came out. He's like, oh, I wish her well. And then they obviously broke up. Yeah, I think they broke up like a month after filming.

And then I was in the airport because I was on my way to Salt Lake City this weekend. I mean, the blessings that I got to be doing stand-up in Salt Lake City four shows, which was so fun. Thank you for everybody who came. And to be able to talk about this on stage as it was happening because it just was so juicy. But I saw that she was the cover of Us Weekly. Now, I have not bought a magazine in years. It was $7.99 and only 60 pages. Wow.

That's expensive. I remember they mean like $4.99. Anyway, I bought it. Okay. And I read it. And obviously this was an interview that she did, probably over the phone prior to this scandal. And she's, they all knew. Like everybody, one of her questions was they said, oh, you talk about your mental health a lot.

How is that? And she goes, yeah, it's like a chemical imbalance thing. And it doesn't have to do with anything that's going on. It can just happen. And that's the hard part about it. So I was like, oh my God. And then there was another part. How to, you know, are you in love now or something?

She's like, or someone would they ask. And she's like, well, let's just say it ends in a very tailor way. So, you know, that she's not with the guy. And then she's back with Dakota. And then she's fighting with Dakota. And I thought it was amazing. And I don't have the quote here. But the first quote that she did after the video came out where she was like,

thank you. I'm not going to stay silent any longer. Women in my position need to know what it's like when you're dealing with a narcissist and blah, blah, blah. I'm like, silent, you've been on TikTok for five years. You have the biggest platform. You've told everything. Yeah. You have not. You've done multiple guests spots on podcast telling your story. You've never remained silent ever. So now you're acting like some quiet victim that's been not telling on Dakota. Like you just saw it. But that's what people actually appreciated and liked about Taylor Frankie Paul is she was so open and honest and transparent. And she did take accountability. She downplayed a lot of the details when you look back at some of those interviews now and her and the mom are like,

my daughter was never injured. And like you can clearly see the chair hits a little girl. Like the chair flies in the girl's direction. And then she started screaming crying right after that. Or they're like, oh, the charges were dropped. But it's like some of the charges were dropped, but it's because you took a plea deal. So they downplayed some of the claims. she does take accountability, which is why it was so jarring when she then issued that statement

where she's suddenly a victim who's not going to be silent anymore. It's like, you're right. She's never been silent, and she's never owned the victim narrative. She's constantly referred to herself as the aggressor. And again, she pleaded guilty before a judge. She's on probation. So it just to me, it's conflicting. And nobody likes when you lean into the victimhood narrative after we see the footage of what actually happened.

I think a lot of people, including the Mormon wives, I think they all knew details because some people are like, oh, well, if you watch episode one, season one, you'll see Whitney says something about throwing chairs and how we're not all like that. And she does make a comment because they address the scandal. But I'm like, I don't think the girl, I think the girls knew the details the same way, like we kind of knew details. But I don't think any of them saw that footage until recently. I think that had been buried in evidence for a long time. There is a scene with Demi talking to her. And she's like, let's want to be. Why? you stop hurting people? And she's like, what? And she's like, you know exactly what I'm talking about,

talk to Dakota. So it's like kind of putting it out there. You know, it reminded me of the season of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills when Camille Grammer says to Taylor, your husband hits you. And now we've said it. Yeah. And I always feel like Camille saved Taylor's life. Yeah. She put it out there. It forced Taylor to face it to get divorced and kept her away from him when he got to a place where he ended his own life. Yeah. Who knows if she would have stayed with him? And I'm not saying that's what Taylor is, you know, capable of.

But sharing it and telling it and putting it out there is the right thing to do. Because it's like, and I get why the bachelor corporate people, Bachelorette were like, you know, excited about this. Yeah. You know, it makes for a horrible potential mate, someone that has her background, makes her life on social media, was a swinger, has three kids and two baby daddies, and she's not even 30 yet, you know, all of it, but it makes for great TV. And that's what it is. We all know is for great TV. It's not, are you here for the right reason? None of the, nobody's there for the right reasons. I thought this was interesting. This, somehow this got out. Reality Steve showed this. And it was how many times Taylor Paul. had called him at 344 in the morning, there was a hundred and eighteen times. I don't even know how you could do it. 150? 150 total. Oh, and this is all one night. Yeah. That was just back to back in that. Do we know what day this was? No. I'm guessing this must have been something that involved

that he was like, I am going to show the video or something. Because her other, her husband, who has, she has a two kids with. Yeah. He said, I never saw that video. If I had it, would have changed everything. He since has gone to the court and gotten a restraining order and asking for full child support. Dakota has ever their child to gather, the two-year-old boy. And I think until it here and comes April 7th, she can't see him at all until April 7th. Yeah.

And, you know, but he's posting videos of him being dad of the year. And it's like, dude, just stop. Yeah. Just you don't need to prove that you can make your son laugh. Yeah. Like, let the kid just be with you. Like, he doesn't need a camera shoved in his face, a phone, while he's not seeing his mom. Like, ugh.

Yeah. And, like, he's not a great guy. Dakota has done a number of terrible, awful things on the show. We've seen his pattern of behavior. But, like, right now... What are all the awful things? Just cheating? Yeah, he's, like, cheat.

And you can see, like, when they argue, like, he does know how to antagonize her. and he does know what buttons to push to get her fired up because I think that like turns him on. I think they get turned on by how feisty they can make each other get. And so, and we've seen this toxic pattern of behavior. And he's a womanizer and he lies and he slept with the mom's friend. And like he's done all. Yeah, he's done.

He's not great. Also, they end up in bed together. Yeah. And the cameras catch it right before she's about to do the bachelorette. Yeah. And then supposedly then she comes back from doing the bachelorette where she was engaged. And then what I think happened is she got with him because, you know, you have these. The other thing about it, there was photos of she meeting with Doug before they canceled it all together.

Yeah. And that is very suspicious to me on the network's part because in the past, it is so unlocking key who won, whatever, that they go to some secret Airbnb maybe once or twice during the time so that they can spend time to. together. And I remember there was one Bachelorette or Bachelor where they like broke up or something while they were at this like Airbnb and they like had to bring in the cameras. And it was just like of what happened and it was juicy. But anyway, they cannot be seen out together at all. And the fact that somebody caught them hanging out, I just thought they were like, I don't know what their plan was. But they, the network was obviously. scrambling to either keep our interest, still run it.

I don't know. But normally in the history of all of the Bachelor of Bachelorette's, no one's ever caught the winner and the person together prior to the show airing, ever. Well, also, you have to factor in. Nobody's ever held the position of Bachelor Bachelorette that, like, the public has cared about, where she's the first, like, famous person to hold that. That could be more believable that the Popsie may catch her, even though I don't think many paparazzi are following Taylor, Frankie Paul in Utah.

But they are now. They are now they are. Yeah. So I thought that was really interesting. Of now, of course, people are saying the Bachelorette men are being considered for The Bachelor in Paradise. That's what they told them. They had a big Zoom call when they said, we have something to tell you. It's never going to air.

But stay nice because you might get to go on Bachelor in Paradise. You're just on pause. I mean, all these guys, obviously, you know, they went to go be thirst buckets. Yeah. They went to go have a part of the other thing that said in that Us Weekly Magazine is that, you know, normally when we watch The Bachelor on Batch Red, it's always like, well, you live in North Carolina and I live in California, but I've always wanted to be a southern girl, you know? That's a few and I are dating. And there's the talk of like, well, where would you live? And sometimes they break up because they can't decide a place to live.

In this article, she tells the reporter of Us Weekly, all the men knew that if they ended with me, they 100% have to move to Utah because I have three kids and two baby daddies. So all of these guys knew the end result was to go to Utah and get on Dad Talk and be on Secret Lives and Learn Wives and start their supplement company. And launch their album, their EP.

Their EP and also their personal training stuff. Yeah. Whatever it is, whatever they're into doing, having a detailed car business. I don't know. But that's what they were going to do. And so the thought is, okay, well, maybe we'll use you for something else. But then the Bachelorette's Devin Strader and Sam M.

are beefing him and Taylor Frankie's Paul Fallout. I don't know. I guess they're fighting about something. But I also, people are like, are they getting ready? Could they sue? Well, there was a report that there are, I think, five guys that are banning together, that are considering suing ABC for a toxic work environment. And then there was a report that she's trying to sue,

or she's considering what option she has to sue the network for, because these shows typically work for somebody in Taylor's position, right, where they, I'm sure, promised her a chunk of money for doing the show, but they usually give you a piece in advance, and then they give you the remainder after the show airs. Because, like, when there's a cash prize for a show, You typically don't get paid out until after the show airs. So I'm assuming, and we heard the ABC was probably going to sue her for breach of contract, for violating her morality clause.

But now there was a report that came out that says her team is fighting back against that saying that she didn't violate her morality clause because all of the video included, even though nobody had ever seen the video, all of the details about the contents of the video were publicly accessible. There was no skeleton in the closet. that there was nothing that she had hidden from the network. Like they had already known about all this. But committing domestic violence again in February would violate it. Yes. But their argument to that is those are currently, being that there's no charge and there's no arrest, they're unsubstantiated claims.

So they pulled the show too early because she's claiming that he was the one that was abusing her at that day. I think they have the right to pull the show no matter what. Yeah. She should get her full payment no matter what. They hired her. She took that time away from her family. Yeah. You know, because her kids come first, right?

And so I don't think there's any claim there. I don't think there's any claim for the men who are on it because the whole point was to find love. Yeah. If you were there for the right reasons, you didn't find love. What do you care if it never errors or not? Yeah. You know, of course they were there. Well, no, they're suing for toxic work environment because they're saying that their safety was jeopardized by allowing her to be on the set with them.

Not because they couldn't get their extra 100,000 fault. followers and get a... But I think that this could be the real, you know, reality reckoning that Bethany Frankel was trying to get us to buy into. I wonder that too, yeah. Because, I mean, look at what happened to Ultimate Girls Trip. And look at what's happening to Housewives right now with the Liam McSweeney lawsuit and the Caroline Manzo lawsuit.

And the Liam McSweeney lawsuit is about to get real juicy now that it's moving into discovery. And now, like, all the Blake and Taylor text messages, the Andy Cohen text messages are coming next. Now that he's a defendant in this, all that discovery is going to get pulled out. And if we thought, you know, the Andy Cohen Diaries was juicy. We're going to get to see emails and text messages because it's all going to be hashed out in public. So that'll hit the public dog.

I wonder which housewife will be redacted. We have black mark in it. You'll be able to see, wait, how long is that name? You know, Lisa Vanderpump or no, no. No, it would be like New York, yeah, right? Right, yeah, it's like the footage that, you know, we want to, people are like, please, I would die to see this footage of this show. There's also reports that it actually was a boring season. Morocco?

No, no, Bachelorette. Yes, I've heard that too. But then I saw an interview with the host, Jesse, prior to it being canceled prior to the scandal. And he was like, well, this is, she's like no other Bachelorette we've ever had because she's an experienced reality star. But also, she doesn't really know how the show works because she wasn't a contestant. came from it. And I mean, they promoted it to be, she doesn't take any crap. Yeah. And then she's like, I'm not giving anyone a rose. Oh, I'm pissed at him. And, you know, so she was playing it up. And I think, you know, people were going to watch and people would have watched. And I think they waited until the

final hour. I mean, they literally, they were, had the video not come out, it was going to air. So that's why some people think maybe Dakota knew that. I have to put it out because I don't want this to air. because maybe which could make sense maybe she even talked more poorly about him on this show that we would have seen as she's opening up to

a guy maybe she was afraid she was going to say I was an abusive relationship and you know he hit me or whatever she was going to say and he didn't want that shut down but it got out there

and it's amazing that you know people are like oh you're still on your phone and she's still posting and she's dancing still like, oh, been through this before. And she's like doing these dances. And I'm like, I don't know.

I'm like, at first I was fascinated. And I'm like, you know, there's no playbook to what she's going through. Sure. She didn't say the N word. No. While singing a song, no one retrieved an old tweet. Yeah. It wasn't anything like that.

It's domestic abuse that a woman did. We've seen it with men. Yeah. So it's like, she's like, the damage is done. I'm going to keep being famous and I'm going to keep going and I'm going to just keep being me. And yeah, she's not saying sorry. And I don't know, maybe that is the right thing for her to do. It's not what I would do.

I mean, but. Listen, she's got the internet in a chokeholds. I mean, all the people that are online right now defending her and being, you know, rah, raw for Taylor. Like, it's wild, especially because her new victim narrative really contradicts the accountability she took for this before. Right. And even, like, people are like, well, Dakota was just filming that so that he could get back at her and ruin her life. And it's like, you have to remember, this was 2023. This is before Secret Lives and Mormon Wives was even a thing. Like, they weren't even officially filming production. Like, she wasn't the bachelor. He wasn't

filming it because she was famous on Hulu. She was just some girl on TikTok that, like, he didn't think that this was going to blow up. She didn't have the fame that she has now. She didn't have much fame back then, aside from being a niche little TikTok dancer. I mean, to throw a metal. A metal. Like, look, you can see one right there. A metal bar stool.

That thing could, like, hit you in the eye. It's not, I don't know how you could. It's not like, what did you say before? Throw some of those bar stools at me and see if you can hit me, a dumb bitch. I mean, what are you saying? Like, it wasn't, if she was even just. kidding him like just trying to slap his face or wrestling with him and he was holding your wrist I think we'd be like okay maybe that would be somewhat understandable it's the actual picking up

of the items of a furniture it's like she threw like what three chairs I mean I think she I don't think TV is ever going to water but you know what things go so quickly I mean gypsy Rose Lee Latterd got a TV show. Well, did you see her on, she's on TikTok now and she was, she made a joke about killing her mom. Yeah, I saw that. That was crazy.

So now we get into, is ABC going to cancel Taylor-Frank-Ipaul's season of The Bachelor if they're going to, which they did. Hulu should do the same for Dakota when he went on the Vanderpump Villa. There's no evidence of him beating anybody up. I say, no. I mean, we've already, they've already, Hulu Disney has already lost The Bachelor's. There's no reason why they wouldn't show that episode. And that show the villa needs that boost. So they're like, no, we're going to show the dog, the dad talk people coming. There's no evidence of him being physically abusive to anybody. But, like, there's no reason they would pull, like, his behavior is the same behavior. Everybody's been watching on Secret Lives and Mormon Wives for the last four seasons. Yeah. So there's nothing that he has done recently. Now, if it comes out that there's evidence, there's evidence.

that he was physically abusive towards her on that February 23rd, 24th, you know, those two incidents and that does change things. But like there's no evidence to support that. Yeah. And then, so then Jesse, who is the girl who has a huge hair empire, she has this awful husband named Jordan and they've had a lot of issues in their marriage. He has filed for divorce. She already, the story is that she was going to do it anyway and then he beat her to it. But then you said that he just filed for a restraining order against her. Yeah. So he filed for a divorce and then filed for a temporary restraining order. She filed to oppose it, but I don't think a judge has made a decision on it as of yet. So that's a big mess. I don't think Dad Talk can survive this. No, Dad Talk was already

falling apart this season. Dad Talk was already on its last leg. It's done. And then Secret Lives updates let us know that Zach Affleck, who who is married to Jen Affleck, who is one of the girls on Mom Talk who did Dancing with Stars. They have three kids. They have moved to the Newport Beach area. I think so has Michaela.

She's moving to L.A. And then who else is there? They were already, we already saw them looking to cast Mormon wives that live in Southern California. Yeah. They wanted to do Soquel and Nashville. Yes. And so I think that they found a couple girls.

And then this, let's get the fuck out of Utah. Yeah. This way we have a clean break from Dakota and from Taylor. And we'll take the top girls that are willing to move, bring them to L.A., which they love and they want to be here. Yeah. And we'll bring in three or four other girls that are already established Mormons in Newport that are

Thirst Buckets too. Yeah. And then together we have a new show. Yeah, it was supposed, well this was before all of, before Taylor even got the Bachelorette. It was I think going to be Jen, Whitney, and Demi that were supposed to be the stars of this

new one. And then obviously Demi fell apart with the group and like she's off doing it, she's like singing her and her husband or they're putting an album out together. I like your true colors. Shire. signing through. It was so cringe.

And like, nobody knew why they were singing. Like, there was no context to the scene. You're going to join Tom Sandoval. Oh. What you're saying how this is, this is our basically, it's Scandival. Yeah. As far as the, as far as the frenzy of talking about it. Yeah.

In our zeitgeist of life. But totally different and way sadder and darker. Yeah. Because it involved abuse and a child. And, ugh, these poor kids, I mean, just like, yeah, the poor kids. Like, not only is your whole life is being on TV and on TikTok and phones in your face and your whole life and that's what pays for your family and everything. But then, you know, you're multiple men in your life and they're fighting with you and you're all like you. And the little girl in that article said she wrote me a note, I hope you find your person, Mommy.

while she's on a bachelorette, another person. We've already had, she's already had two people. Yeah. Now, a third one, I'm just, like, obviously, she wasn't going to turn down an opportunity to be on the bachelorette. But, like, the last thing this girl needs to do is date and find a new love.

Yeah. The last thing, like, if she really wanted to get her shit together, she should be like, I'm not dating a soul for, like, two years. That's what she needs. She needs intensive therapy and, like, no guy, like, men are her addiction. And relationships, she's, like, 11. addict and she keeps getting caught up in that cycle.

She's a fame addict. Yeah. Because also, you know, you could probably not make an income for a year or two. Yeah. And put your phone away. And then if you really desire to do it after, you could come back and it could be like very interesting. I'm sure if they keep, I'd be like, you girls, you go do the show.

You make it bigger, bigger, bigger. Taylor, providing she gets her shit together will always be able to come back somehow. Yeah, she could go take a break, do sound baths in Arizona. With Rachel live. With Rachel Raquel. She does sound baths. She does sound baths now. Yeah.

So listen, she's living her life. Good for her. She's like engaged. She's someone that she did that, you know, Bethany made her do a podcast and she got rid of the podcast. She found literally a rocket scientist that she's engaged to. Yeah. She does her sound bath thing. She's still on social media, but like she really.

removed herself. But what's also good about her situation is the show she was on also went away. It all blew up. It all went away. So it's like it's kind of an easier break, I think. I don't think, I don't know how they move.

This has to be the last season of the Salt Lake City version. I think it is. And I think they scrape. That's why they stopped filming because they're like, let's cut our losses. Yeah. Let's stop paying all the cameramen. Let's have them get rid of their apartments.

Well, the producers wanted the show to keep filming. but it was the cast that said we're not filming anymore. Right. And now I think that's why they're like, okay, well, let's just move everything to L.A., which we need more filming in L.A., so I'm okay with it. Yes.

Southern California. But I don't know if this cast outside of Taylor and Whitney, like if they want to save the franchise, they need to build a show around Whitney Levitt in New York because she was supposed to be part of this L.A. spin off with Jen and Demi and then Demi fell off from the group, and then Whitney got Roxy Hart, and so she moved to New York.

She moved to her whole family there because it's become a more permanent gig. When does that end? They just extended it. And so, because she like broke box office records in like the last 29 years. She's had sold out shows nonstop. And so she's like, and listen, if anybody can save that franchise, it's Whitney, even though she's had her own like problem. Remember she was like dancing in the NIC?

Yeah, yeah. That was, that's, had she not danced to her child in the NICU and Taylor not admitting to sucking her best friend's husband's dick. Yeah. No, she would not be dancing. I mean, Chase is hot. I forget her. No, she's good, but I'm saying no one would have known about her. I mean, it's like, oh, oh, she's a good dancer.

Whitney's a good dancer. And, you know, and Whitney, and, you know, she had a, she, she can do it. I mean, but a lot of people can do that role. I'm sorry to say. Yeah. I mean, a lot of people have done the role. The role is about a girl who wants to be famous, so they always like to pick a reality star or somebody who thirsty. But she definitely has executed it.

But the reason she's selling out is because all these young girls watch the show. Yeah. And so they want to see when they do their fun trip with their mom to New York, that's the show they want to see. So, and I don't think there's a lot of Mormons in New York City that she can do her own version of that or whatever. I mean, it could just be a show anchored around her and her family. I don't, sorry, I don't think there's enough there. I wouldn't watch it. I would not.

I'm just saying, of all of the cast members, she's the only one that can pull an audience. Nobody wants to watch Jen Affleck. Nobody wants to watch Michaela and her skin issues. Like nobody wants to watch. And she's now getting divorced. And she just posted a thing about like. Is she getting divorced or not in a LA? She's like teasing her divorce.

This morning she posted a video about. Oh, I'm getting divorced. What it means because I'm really in love with Taco Bell, not my husband. So she's teasing the fact that they've had marital issues. And their marital issues are weird and sad because she met him when she was 16 and he was 21. Yeah. And so you wonder like, oh, I don't always feel sexy. So you wonder if they're in a weird religious thing.

And women are sort of taught to never turn their husband down sexually. And I mean, it's just, yeah, I agree. I don't think. I don't think any of them can hold the show without Taylor and Whitney. Yeah. But I think for Whitney, just fine. I don't need to see her daily life of doing the same show every night with her three kids. It can be like secret lives off Broadway.

Secret lives of Broadway wives. Yeah, maybe, maybe. But maybe she might get tired of. doing the play too. Like after like six months she might be like, I'm ready to go to L.A. and join you guys, which I think at any time she could. Just like I do think Taylor could, providing the show is doing well or it's not doing that well and needs a boost.

They would welcome them back. Whitney's going to be Ariana. She's like, fuck you guys. I'm never talking to any of you ever again. And she's moving on with her life. Like she doesn't want to fuck with any of these girls. Yeah. That's what I think.

She thought she was better than them from the beginning. And now she can really be like, screw this, I'm out. She's not going to come to L.A. and film a scene with Jen. Poor Jen can't even hold a scene. Yeah. So then we finally, we got the video of switching gears to Justin Timberlake. Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.

No, that's his song. Yeah, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye. And sexy back. So he was got a DUI last year or two years ago. And he fought to get the cam footage being released, but somehow it was released. He agreed to release it as long as they redacted parts of it. So there are pieces of the footage that did not get released to the public,

and that was the agreement he made. Why does he have to agree to it? Because he was suing them. He was trying to block it. He was suing them to prevent them from releasing it, and then they came to an agreement where they settled, and he said, okay, as long as you cut these parts out, you can leave the rest of the parts in.

So he gets arrested. And, I mean, of all the celebrities who have been arrested for a DUI. Very nice. Like he was great. He was not bad. He wasn't, he didn't want to go.

Yeah, he wasn't like, do you know who I am? And that wasn't even Reese Wittishpun. It was her husband who got arrested. And she was the Yapidie wife making it worse. Yeah. And she sends divorced that guy.

So we forgive her. But anyway, yeah, we've seen a lot worse DUI camp footage. And then he had this, like, friend with him, this female friend who I think is probably just like an assistant or something.

And she was the star of the show because she's just like, what? Stop. You can't. Come on, officer. You got to tell me you love his music. And she starts singing it. Yeah. She's like, do me a favor just because you love bye, bye, and sexy back.

And then he's like, and then the cop is like, yeah, you okay to drive home? She's like, what? Yeah. And I'm like, I don't think she is. And then he goes, have you had anything to drink? She goes, I like a glass of wine. He's like, yeah, you seem fine. I'm like, I don't think.

I don't think she was fine at all. She, like lit herself. Oh, my God. So this, okay, so years ago, I'm like at the comedy story, the improv or something. And I'm hanging out with this comic. I mean, he kind of liked me, whatever. We're driving home and he gets pulled over. And he gets arrested for a DUI.

And he was driving me home. And we weren't going to do anything. He didn't know that. But I just wanted to ride. this is before Uber, you know, it's like hard to get a ride home. And I was like, so then I did not ask to drive the car home. I didn't, I'm like, I barely knew this guy. He got arrested.

I somehow, I guess, got a cab back in those days and went home. My sister kind of helped because she was a criminal defense attorney, but he was, he was so pissed. He was like, it's all because of you. I have no idea who he was. He never made it or anything. But he was like basically blaming me. Like if I wouldn't have been driving you home, I'm like, dude, like whatever. But it's a pretty awful.

But it was just like that. Like if I tried to go, wait, hold on. Let me get. They're like, ma'am, step back. You cannot talk to him. You cannot. And I was like, so I think, I almost want to say they, I think they drove me to the police station. They left the car there.

They drove me to the police station. And then I think my sister then picked me up or something. And then the next day, he got out. hated me and I don't know what happened to him. You ruined his comedy career. I don't know, but it's like...

The DUI was the scandal that ended his career. Yeah. So I thought that was... I don't think it's going to hurt him at all. No. I mean, he was very... I mean, he's lit. Yeah, he's totally lit.

He's high. I think he may have like taken a gummy or something because he said he only had one martini and she only had one glass of wine, but they both look pretty blitz. And more importantly, sunburned. Yeah.

When you were sunburned and you've been drinking all day, it just does not help. It's like your eyes, yeah, your eyes are bloodshot matching your burned face. It's a beautiful day in Sag Harbor.

Like, I mean, it wasn't good. I want to talk about this. So, Chaparone. So there's Jude Law. They brought up Jude Law because it's one of his children. He has seven kids with four different women.

And then I looked up, wait, who did he cheat with the nanny? He cheated. So he was engaged to Sienna Miller. There was a nanny for his first or second wife. That nanny he cheated with. Sienna broke up with him, then they got back together, then they never got married. But anyway, he has seven kids with four different women.

So he should be the bachelor. And he, um, so his daughter and he has a famous stepfather. Yeah. Who is a famous Brazilian soccer player who's absolutely gorgeous. And the little girl was 11. And they're at a beautiful hotel, I think, in Brazil. I'm not sure where they were. Yeah, it was in Brazil.

And Chaparone was there having breakfast. And the little girl gets all excited and is like, I think it's her mom. I think it's her. So she just walks by and then she comes back to the mom and she's like, oh, my God. It is her. I think it's her. And then security, who the mom says she believes was part of her entourage. comes over and says, you know, some mean Brazilian man is like, you can't do that.

Don't look at her and you should teach your daughter better behavior. And then she was like, well, then she should be eating in her hotel room because this is a public place and we can look at people when you're sitting in a public place. Then the stepdad wrote a horrible thing about what a bitch she was on social media. And then chaperone is at her bed and bothers to a video and was like, look. that wasn't my security. I don't know if that was hotel security or what. I didn't tell them to do it. I do love my fans.

I never even saw this girl or your mom. Like, I don't know what you're talking about. And then the mom of the little girl is like, again, not true. This is what happened. And if this person isn't your security or if they're representing you, then you should fire them because this is what they did. And it doesn't look well on you. No, here's the thing. I think he may have been hotel security or restaurant.

restaurant security, but he would not have made chaperone a priority if he was not instructed to make chaperon a priority. And I think wherever she go, listen, she's known to be a bitch and she hates her fans. Like that's just, those are objective facts that we've all come to accept. I mean, the things that I've seen is that, yeah, I don't think she likes the fandom. At all. I don't think she's this person that when someone walks up to them and is like, you got me through cancer.

I don't think it's a story she wants to hear. No, she doesn't care. And it could just be, she doesn't care, it could be that not everybody likes that part of being famous. Not everybody. Right, not everybody likes to do the meet and greets like you and me. Not everybody likes it. Like I would take people out to eat.

Like when I would be doing shows because I was like lonely on a Saturday. And I was like, let me like treat the, you know, I like to meet my fans. that's me. But I remember even when I was doing that, there'd be times where I'd be at a comedy club and they'd be like, wow, there's a lot of comedians that are like actually introverts. And when the show ends, they don't want to talk to anybody.

They don't. So I'm like, but again, if that is your deal and you don't feel like being recognized or approached, then go eat your breakfast in your room. I agree with the mom. Like don't, if you're not in a mood to be out in public and you're just not in a mood, then don't go out.

Because if you're a bitch, we will know about it. Here's the thing. She still goes to Fashion Week. She still walks the red carpets and does her photos and then hates the paparazzi. She still puts herself in these situations

where she's going to encounter these types of interactions. And that's just part of, like, it's like saying, I want to be in the NFL and then I get mad when I sprayed my ankle on the field. It's like you know the casualties of the job that you're signing up for.

Right. And if you don't want to do that, then I don't know, be an assistant coach for the NFL. and then you're in it, but you're not on the field, and you still get to feel like you're a part of the action. Like, you get to pick and choose which pieces you want to be a part of, but that comes with the territory that you're going to be stepping on.

And she, she, listen, she can go back to playing her little guitar on Santa Monica Boulevard, like she used to do. We've seen all the videos of when she was a struggling artist, and then she blew up and she's become famous and continues to do all the award shows. Just like the reality stars. I mean, just like Taylor, the blowup is so.

fast. When it's so fast, when it's not a traditional, you know, even with some reality stuff, even with the Vanderpump kids, it was a slow burn to get to Scandibald. It was 11 years to get to, you know, send it to Darrell moments. Yeah. Like this was so fast for Taylor. And as a performer, I mean, even Madonna had, I mean, Madonna blew up, but even her, it was like still a blow up, blow up, you know, to a place. It was still a little bit of time. Like, oh, who is this girl? Like, when her first album came out because of the time it was, I thought she was black.

I remember her music. She sounded like a black woman to me. I thought she was black. Yeah, I was like, holiday. Yeah. She had, you know, like, it's, I imagined. And then I was like, wait, like, like, already it was a song and we didn't know what she looks like.

Now in this day and age, it's like, all right, right away, you know, the video, you know this or this. So you're instantly, like, so famous, and she became famous so fast. She did, but she wanted to become famous. Yeah. She knew what that. She was aspiring to be that pop star. Right.

And even now, she can do things to prevent access to the public. Like, there are celebrities that you never, look at Leonardo DiCaprio. Right. You never see him. He always has his face covered. He hates the paparazzi. He wants no part of any of it. And we know nothing about his personal life.

Yeah. He knows how to keep his life on locking key and only in. when he needs to interact with it. He doesn't really walk red carpets. Like, if he goes to the award shows, he doesn't engage. Like, he does his thing. So she can very much do that thing, but she's the type of person that wants to have her cake and eat it too.

And it's all about her boundaries and her aura. And you have to respect your space. And this security guard, I'm sure, was given some strict rules as to what to do when Chappellone is in the room. And whether that came from her directly or that came from her team, because her team knows how difficult she is. And they wanted to prevent some sort of issue. So they made sure they give them.

the hotel, the instructions ahead of time. But that security guard didn't do that out of the kindness of his heart because he was trying to protect Chaparone's aura. I mean, sometimes when there's some, sometimes what I've gone places and they're like, and do you want to do the secret backway walk or do you want to, and I'm like, what? Yeah. No, I want to walk out in front. Let people see me.

Yeah. Speaking of Vanderpump, Lisa Vanderpump has listed Tom Tom Tom. So the Tom, wait, so the Tom, wait, so the Tomtub, which is now. next to the pump. Pump is still not sold yet. We only have Sir left. Pump is salt. Pump is sold.

Sorry, pump is sold, but next door is TomTom. And that was still going, but now it has been listed, and this guy posted it, Seth on the... Seth on the... Seth on the...

Anyway, thank you for doing that. And it's a celebrity-backed night-life investment, is how they said it. It's kind of cute. Is Seth single? Yeah, maybe. It looks like he knows about real estate. Yeah, Seth.

On the scene. What have you guys bought Tom Tom together? So anyway, well, I mean, are we surprised? No, we're not. I don't think the two Tomtoms are not part of it anymore. They only had 5%. Tom Schwartz was still, like, he would still do brunch and he would like show up and like be the face. I think because Lisa was like come and entertain the guests.

I think so. Well, we know he's going to be on the Valley. Yes. But Tom Sandoval is not. Correct. Even though he wants to. And so now this is over with. I don't know.

I mean, unless the show is on and the show is featuring the restaurant. And also, like, I don't think, like, nobody's watching this Vanderpump reboot. Like, what losers? Like, nobody cares about them. They're both. I don't even know if, like, when people come out, like, a lot of people are coming out for my show in May. May 9th. And they're like, well, what are we, what should we, you know, what else could we do?

And if this was like two years ago, it would absolutely be Sir Pump, Tom, one night. Something about her sandwiches. Yes, it would be all of that. And it's just like, that's just not relevant because we're not watching it anymore. Nobody, I don't, I'm not going to be gaslit into believing that this Vanderpump reboot is the breakout show of the year. I don't know a single person that's genuinely watching it. And it's, well, just like real house. You got a second season.

Do you think it's because. So did. New York, they're bringing it, they're bringing it back for a third time. And they're trying so hard to shove it down our throats, this New York Rony reboot with Sy and Aaron. And I like Aaron. Like some of the girls that they at least picked in Jessel, like, I get it. But like, nobody's watching that show. I mean, it's still very expensive to do a show, even if you're paying the talent, $2. It hasn't been renewed yet.

Verde-Pump was. No. That wasn't true. Alex Baskin came out and said it was pretty much, that that report came out prematurely and that it had not officially been greenlit by the network. I didn't even know the other day I was doing my hair, and I was like, did they have a reunion? They did.

A three-part reunion, right? A two-part. Oh, okay. It was a little bit of a smaller space. It was in-sar, wasn't it? Yeah, they said this is where we did the first one for the original. Yeah. And, I mean, I hadn't watched it, so it was like,

I didn't know what was going on. I just watched, like, a little bit of it just to see. and I'm just saying like absolutely no buzz, nothing. So I'm like, I'd be shocked if it did go. And I don't know anybody. And I think she's good to walk away. I think she's like, I'm ready to sell all the restaurants, do the villa and do the Las Vegas stuff. Vegas is where she's at.

And listen, she's smart to do that because Vegas is about novelty, right? So if you're going to do novelty and lean into that, it's not going to be on Santa Monica Boulevard in West Hollywood. Like, it's done. Like move to Vegas because that's where everybody goes because they want to go see the M&M store and they want to go to, you know, all the different. It's the most genius thing. It doesn't, I don't think it needs to have a full kitchen. It's just apps. And then you get a $25 drink and you're gone in an hour.

Next people come in. It's smart. Turnover, turnover. It's smart. And she can become the name in because like they all have, they all build like, who is it? Hell's Kitchen. They did their own like spin off, different restaurants and stuff. And she can do that.

And I think that that's smarter. She doesn't need Tom Tom. She doesn't need pomp. I don't know why she's keeping. She's keeping Sarah alive for the show. But just I think that's an ego thing of like they can't let the franchise die, even though nobody cares. It's like got zero cultural impact. Like nobody cares about these people.

And so she but she has Villa, which Villa is at least somewhat interesting. Thanks to the mom talk. You better believe we're going to watch it because of Dad Talk. We want to know who Dakota fuck. Yeah. So, and that's one thing that Hulu is doing very smart is cross-pollinating all their shows. They're putting the Mormon wives on Danzy with the stars. And then they try to bring Taylor on The Bachelor, but that was like an epic fail. But like they're trying to circulate everyone. Stasi's getting her own show and she's on Vanderpabila. And like, you know, they're being smart about that. I mean, that's why they kept Nick Vial part of that world because he came from the Bachelor world. Like they're smart to cross-pollinate, whereas I think Bravo's really bad at that. And they try to gatekeep everything. thing, but in a way that, like, just isn't modern, that, like, they're gaslighting us into thinking this Vanderpumpurl's reboot is a success. And I'm just like, nobody's that stupid.

Yeah. Well, we'll see. R.P. Tom, Tom. Getting on to Real House of Salt Lake City since I was there this weekend. Yeah, for the party. The girls were in San Francisco. So they did not make my show, which is fine, because I could talk about them on stage. But anyway, they were in San Francisco, and Bronwyn brought her new boyfriend.

which she had told me about when I went to the white party at Kyle's and, you know, she told me it was like a 32-year-old model and I don't know how secret of it was going to be, but now it's not a secret. How old is she? She's still young, right? She's like 3840 or something. Yeah, so she's not that far up.

Oh, no, this is great. Yeah. I mean, imagine going from Todd, which basically looked like the guy, the old man and up. Yeah. To this guy. I mean, I will say

when there's some people could think that you know Bravo has ruined women's lives and some lives they've ruined

Liam McSweeney would say that she was you know had a great life before she was on the show or whatever I don't know what her case is going to be

but in the case of Bronwyn I don't think there has been a better trajectory of getting out of like basically a transactional marriage

to start where you're a much younger woman and you're a much younger woman and you're are you needed someone to support you and your daughter, you know, and you had that for a few years, but he was a motherfucker and you didn't enjoy him and he didn't like him.

Get on a TV show. Now you have the fame in the career, and you get to fuck a 32-year-old, and you get to bring him on the show and parade him around Heather Gay, who's been single for five years, who's never had a boyfriend. I know.

No, it was that big as getting her fucked. Erica Jane, this was supposed to be her trajectory. She was supposed to leave Ta, she got divorced, and then boom, the whole legal scandal crumbled right before her eyes. Listen, Bronwyn's doing it right. And she's young. And listen, I think Housewives is dying. I think it'll be done in a few years.

I think it's just kind of growing obsolete and Bravo needs to find ways to keep re, you know, reimagine. And they're trying, right? They did like the hotel show and Ultimate Girl's Trip was great until Caroline Manzo fucked it all up. And then... I've been seeing these... You've probably seen these videos since it's not, I did not create the idea, but it was funny where it's like, what footage would you most like to see that we'll never see, which is the ultimate girls trip Morocco where Brandy Glendville allegedly, you know, did something with Caroline.

The other one was the van with Kathy Hilton and Lisa Ritter. Oh, the Aspen, yeah. Post when they didn't play Michael Jackson at the DJ and she was cursing the DJ and a sexuality all the way home. And then what was the other one? I think I did see that. There was like two other ones of like things. Oh, the plain footage of Meredith and Brittany that there's no footage of that. But there's, we're not sure there's any footage.

But there was like two other ones where I was like, yeah, you're right. Anyway, good for her. I would love to. I think we may get Morocco unintentionally. If Caroline's, if what happens with Leah's lawsuit happens with Caroline's lawsuit. The issue with Caroline's lawsuit is they're fighting over jurisdiction because it happened in Morocco and like it's it's tricky um but i mean listen if there's anything blake lively taught us it's that none of your text messages are safe none of the footage is safe and all of

the morocco if anything ever happens with bravo they really go they just need to start a patreon yeah people would pay so much and it's like all of this stuff and they're like i'm done yeah done i'll pay for it yeah andy cohen's patreon yeah but i think we So from my understanding of the Caroline Manzo lawsuit, they have all of the footage, all the episodes edited. Yeah. They have the masters and then they have like the raw footage, all of which has been submitted in court. It's just currently under seal. But like Liam McSweeney was able to push her lawsuit to go to trial now and it's going to be played out publicly.

So I'm hoping Caroline pushes a little harder because if we, if they're not going to air it for us, then at least drop it on the docket. Yeah, I don't even know where that's going. What's happening with it with the Caroline and Brandy. It's still in whole. Yeah. they're still trying to battle it. So this was just in. Kelly Osborne is engaged to this guy,

Sid Wilson. He's a singer, I think. They've been together a long time because they have a child who was born in 2022, but they were engaged and now the engagement is off. Because she lasts too much weight?

I mean, of course, you know, after her dramatic weight loss, a lot of people criticized that. That was from New York Post. It said Kelly Osborne and fiance, Sid Wilson, he reportedly split after her dramatic weight loss. Well, she's been,

I mean, pretty skinny for a while. You know, who knows why people will break up. I looked at her love life. I mean, she's had a lot of significant others throughout her 40 years of life or whatever she is. I don't know. It is dramatic. It's really dramatic in her face.

That's what I think people kind of like freak out about. Yeah, it's very gone. But I want to talk about a little bit about Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. So I was following Amanda. The manifestation queen. Yes. And so she told a story on her Instagram that I thought was kind of interesting. And she's like, I want to talk about when you celebrate the haters.

So I was going to get some ascibles for my children in Bretwood. And I had several kids in the car and I left them in the car. Now I'm hoping that there was a nanny in the car because no one talked about that in the comments. But I was like, and I went, I was like, I need whatever her little kids names are. I need one a sci bowl for this one and the other. And when I walked in, the girl working there was on the phone. and she didn't immediately get off the phone to help us. And when I worked at all my multiple jobs before I was a billionaire,

I would always know that the person in front of you is who you give attention to not the one on the phone. So finally, I said, I just wanted a sidebelt with just strawberries and chocolate. And she said, do you want the granola? And I'm like, I told you, I want it just with the strawberries and chocolate. It was taking a really long time,

so then I had to go back and check on my kids. And then when I came back, I said, could I just get a little more of the, The cocoa chunks or chocolate or whatever. And she said, that's going to cost four more dollars. I said, fine. Fine. And then what I did, I tipped her $100.

Because that's what you do. What? I was like, okay, wait a minute. First of all, the girls are not a hater. She's a young Jen Zier who's working at a place for minimum wage that you're agreeing to overpay for, a $25 breakfast for your kid every day. They knew where to put this place in your neighborhood

because you dumb bitches on your way to drop off will spend that kind of money. And this young girl is working there. And no, no one trained her. What do you want? She's not hating on you. She's fucking waiting on you. And she's told if she does another scoop

and there's cameras everywhere, she's got to charge your ass $4. So I do think it's nice that you gave her $100 because that $100 is going to mean a lot to her a lot more than it would to you. But it doesn't even go to her. It goes to the collective pot of all of the...

Of the iPad tip? Yeah, I guess you're right. Well, then everybody got it. And since no one saw it and made a video, make sure you go home and let the world know that you're a good tipper. Because otherwise, it doesn't go in the universe, I guess, unless you say it and may make a TikTok about it.

She should film herself passing out $100 bills down Skid Row. Boom. She probably will. You don't have to go to Skid Row. She's like, you manifested money. You manifested money. Yeah. But, I mean, she is the only kind of interesting thing about the show.

And I will say that. So they weren't Italy. Did you watch it? I did. And what did you think of the episode? There was a little action at the end. I'm trying to remember what happened. Who's that girl?

They put that random lady on the show. Every time I see that random lady, I'm like, who's this damn lady that lied? She lied about the bows and the mask thing. That was such a dumb conversation. And then I was like, you know, on a watcher albums live, they were all like, oh, yeah, it was just, it was a misunderstanding. It's all fine. But, you know, nothing's happening in Italy except for them shopping. So I know the producer probably had to go up to Kyle and go make a bigger deal out of the fact that she, that the new girl said, oh, everyone has masks, who's Pinocchio, meaning who's a liar.

And then, and then Bose goes, I don't know, Amanda, ha, ha, ha, that was it. Like, Bose wasn't thinking of like, it was so insignificant. It was so insane. So she's like, what? Oh, God. I guess we have to make a big deal of this. And then Amanda's like, maybe. Oh my God, I thought that was an earthquake.

It was the air conditioning. I was filming the show once when we caught an earthquake. And it was when I had the desk and I got under the desk. Oh, my God, I hate it. It was like a total news moment. Like I totally. Anyway, so she, she's like, well, I'm from a generation that has boundaries. And I'm like, when you say, when you, if people, younger women really do feel about like that,

but I don't think it's a whole generational. But I'm like, then the show can't exist. No. You know? And it's like, but it is kind of interesting. And they're just like, what? We have to like fight and talk shit about each other. This show is, I couldn't believe it.

I went to go look for the episode. And on my peacock, it said 26 episodes. I go, wait, what? And then I realize, oh, no, watch albums live is in it too. But still, we're on like 13 episodes. I know. of not a lot happening but like Well it's at the end though

Because they just filmed the reunion It is at the end So there's only like four There should only be like four five episodes left But even so like what's left in the four episodes And we've been waiting for the Me I went to the party What party?

I didn't even know they'd be I did not know they were filming They asked me to go to a party To celebrate Nikki Hilton's jewelry line And I'd been to stuff at Nikki's house That was not filmed where she'd have like pop-up stuff. So I just thought it was another like cute pop-up thing.

And then I was like, oh, they're filming. Like they're filming the show. Anyway, they then call me because they, I guess never got a release. So I said, yeah, of course, like I'm not going to be, no, cut me out of the scene. Blur my face. Yeah. And so anyway, once again, it's just like, where's Waldo, like thirsty Heather in the background of a party?

But anyway, they did get in. into it. Was this the finale? I think this was. It has to be the finale. I think this was the finale. Something else happens in Italy that we're going to see. Yeah.

And then, because they were fighting about Italy with Doreet at this table. And I'm holding back and watching it with Cade Hudson, manager of Britney. He's really good fun with Nicky Hilded. And we're both just like, like we're just watching it. And I could hear it. And it was just a lot of yelling at Doreet. like it sounded like Dereet like left them stranded in Italy

I don't know something happened where like I don't know it's not like she's in charge of a jet so I don't know how she left anybody when you've got camera crews it's not like anyone could be left like all of a sudden when you're not going to get in the van like what you know but they were just

mad at her you know and they kind of allude like they're getting annoyed that she's late for everything and yeah I mean she is a little annoying this season that's my personality not okay like not she's I understand But it's a job.

Yeah. And that's why they're mad. They're not just mad if we weren't filming and we were having dinner. And I'm like, God, you know, Zach, you're always late, which you are the most non-late person. Neither am I. But like, you know, whatever. It's like, no, we all had to be here on time. Like, so I don't know.

Then she talks about how, you know, she's going to sell the house on Watchroom's Live. She said, he's bringing the foreclosure up and then they're going to sell it. And then she and the kids will find some. else, which is, again, it's sad because you know she's going to end up renting. Yeah. Because she's going to want to live in a glamorous place instead of buying a house. And, you know, here you've been on the show for all these years. And what will you have to show for it? If you don't even, like, end up owning a home at the end of a 13-year marriage, being on a show for 10 years. And, I mean, essentially, that's Shannon Bador. Yeah. Started off in a $16 million house.

and is, you know, on the show for 17 years or whatever it is and still just renting a house. That's six years old. It's like what it's all. And then the amount of stuff they bought. All of them buying stuff. Buttego and all they. I don't even saying these words right because I don't buy them.

Yeah, Durie was just buying stuff left and right. And the most. She's like, I bought four Gucci purses. Gucci really? You need four Gucci purses. What are you doing? When you're going through? divorce. I agree with Kyle. What the fuck are you doing?

I agree with Amanda. Stop fucking talking about him. He's your source of income. You don't want to piss him off. You want him to be generous. Not only that, but if she's going to try to prove in court that she's dependent on his money, then she can't be saying, yes, I bought a Kelly bag with my book advance.

She can't be flexing about having her own money and then blowing it on all of these things if she's going to prove that she had some sort of financial hardship as to why she deserves spousal support. There are certain things you don't. of is do you make, is it a better deal to buy in Europe all this shit? Like is the dollar that much better or worse? I don't think it's that much. I still don't think you need four Gucci bags.

No, but and I don't think the price is that significantly different. It's not like it would be 10,000 here and it's like 4,000 there. The only reason I know you buy that type of stuff in another country is because there are different items available there that they might not be here. Because all of the items are limited. Like with Birken bags. Like, they're so rare and limited. Like, that's why you have to, like, source them and go, you know, get them from here or there. And again, I feel like that. Like, where is that?

But I was like, who cares? Yeah. So, yeah, I don't think she needs four Gucci bags and all the clothes that she's, like, she's just, she's a spender. But that's going to come back to bite her. Because God forbid she loses housewives. Right. Then what is she going to do?

Yeah. Or just make sure it's insured because she gets robbed. Oh, yeah. Again. Again. And then. Yeah, so let's hope not. Okay, Teresa did a beautiful post with Melissa with the songs of

Birds of a Feather, we belong together. Happy birthday, Melissa, aka sister-in-law, L.O.L. Why is that funny? We've truly been through it all and somehow always find our way back to each other. Thanks to the show. Yeah. The show brought you apart. Yeah.

Tore you apart, but it also brought you back together. Yeah. I hope your day is filled with so much happiness and love. I'm really grateful that we're back in the... I'm grateful for that too. Yeah. Your family, the cousins, all of it. Who can't...

Like, I'm not mad about it. No. I do love... Who is it not... Good for them. Antonio? Is that Melissa's daughter's name? She's on TikTok and she's watching all the old seasons of Jersey.

That's fun to see. Because she's watching like the christening for the first time. Yeah. It's crazy to think that they're like old. enough to do TikToks and watch it now. Good for her, though. She's in college, and that's a really smart thing to do. That's a really interesting thing to do. And people are hooked on it. Yeah, because they don't know, because they didn't watch it back, and they were just used to it's like a person in the corner

with a camera. They still lived their life. And all the kids, on all seven of their kids, the three Gorgas and the four girls are lovely. Yeah. And seem to be raised really, really great. Yeah. So I think that's, you know, and the Italian roots. Yeah. And so the The story, the rumor is them and Dolores. Yeah. And then what, four new people? I guess. Yeah.

So no food, no, what's yet? What was the other girls? No Margaret. Who is Danielle? No Danielle. No Jen Aden. No Jen Fessler. I'm good without Jen Fessler, honestly.

Yeah. I don't think anyone's clamoring. Or what's the other one, Goldfinder? Oh, Jackie Gold Schneider. Yeah. Yeah, no, I don't think. I don't think. I don't think anyone cares.

but that's a good one. This one I saw a reality TV fan said that there's supposedly a new show. I've seen a few reports on this. That's going to be like an ultimate girls trip, but for different reality stars. So it's like a traitors where they mix a lot of reality stars, but it's a girl's trip. And supposedly it's Tamar from, you know,

Tamar Braxton, Kim Zolziak, Kenya, Margaret from New Jersey, Christine from selling sunset Brittany from the Valley and Vanner Pump Caitlin Bristow from Bachelor Jen from Bachelor I don't know who she is

She's one Holaria You know Baldwin Julie Chrissley and Savannah Chrisley That's too many girls There's too many I think this is

Someone just made this up And they're well taking a shit I don't think this is Yeah this is too No it's too rare And like How do you have it How many people?

But you could make three shows out of that. You only need like, I think the ultimate number for something is like five or six. Yeah. Because you just got to have enough where one could be ostracized. Yeah. And you could betty up with like one person. Yeah. Like that's.

Unless these are all in consideration and the cast hasn't been finalized. But like in what world do you see Brittany and Margaret Joseph's? Yeah. And when they go on trips, it's true. I've been on a girl's trip before. And you need about five or six people. to have fun, to have a little bit of drama, and then the funest trips are when one girl

is kind of like fucking annoying everybody. And then you're like, let's go for a walk. And then you're like, I'm so annoyed. Like, it does kind of bond you together. It does kind of make it fun. Anyway, Lizzo stripped down to meet her former self. It was a little confusing.

It's a photo of Lizzo with dark hair and Lizzo with blonde hair. But the blonde hair Lizzo is the new Lizzo. You know, she's lost a lot of weight. And it's like, she did a video with, I don't know, with AI, made like another naked version of herself. Is it AI or is it like a wax figure? I think it's like AI. I think it's like in post. They probably just did it. But it's a music video. So it's a music video. So they're moving around. So she just had like a green square for a green screen. Yeah. And then she's getting fucked in the ass by the old.

Lizzo. No, I think it's like a mannequin. Is she wearing skims? Maybe. I don't know. And the new Lizzo. I don't know. What do you think? I thought it was really funny when you talked about your, I died laughing at that one video who said about Jillian Michaels was doing, explain it. So she did a Jubilee video where they like sit you down and they have like 20 people that you like do a debate And so she was debating like 20. Gillian Michaels is a fitness person from. Biggest loser. Right.

I just reminding everybody. And so she sat down and she was debating 20 body positivity activists. Okay. And so it's everything from like, well, so apparently I learned that they, you're not allowed to call them obese anymore. And so now they prefer to be called fat-bodied, which don't ever call me that. Like, as somebody that used to be fat-bodied, when I was in high school, I was very thick. and I would never, like that is an assault on my soul to call me fat-bodied.

But so they're fighting with Jillian Michaels about like, don't use the word obese, you have to be called fat-bodied, and like that's the term that they're embracing. And you have like therapists who are like, we have to call it the O-W word. And like-It's just so weird because then on the other hand, everybody's obsessed with Kelly Osborne. It's like I think the new era just needs to be. Listen, body positivity. Let's not make this a story anymore. No, body positivity used to be a thing until O-Zempe came.

And then nobody cared about, like. And I don't care what, like, what happened to calling them brave? Like, let's just say, like, call them brave and love your body and just do your thing. Just do your thing. Like, just love yourself. And we don't need to. And we don't need to. A time where, like, you had to be secretive about OZemPEC.

Otherwise, they were going to, like, knock on your door and, like, burn you to that. And now everyone can be on it or not. Who cares? Yeah. Like, who cares? But, like, Lizzo is a perfect example of that of, like, she went from body positivity to OZempic. But then I feel like she kind of lost. something so that's why I think she's

doing this controversial well I mean it gets us talking about her now she had that lawsuit against her remember yeah she had the like dancers said she was mean she was mean and she like sexually harassed them or something yeah but I think now she wants to get back into music yeah and she has a new song coming out and so she's like why harass my dancers when I can harass myself

I can harass a former version of myself I mean I always loved her music so like I don't care what you look like Lizzo like make some good songs I can jam out too. Okay, Megan Markle has left Netflix millions of dollars in the hole with the severed as ever deal. They never saw a return. What do we think is going to happen to her? I mean, did they think they were going to see a return?

She's also. Boring. Oh, she is a luxury flower thing. She was doing something where she's like talking to her, she was doing something and then the child comes in. but we don't get to see Lilibet and because she like comes in the perfect angle like it's hidden so it's like she put her camera there

and she's like yes my lap okay I think you can do that and then it's like oh we got a glimpse of Lilibet's hair or whatever listen the kids are going to be on the camera when she's holding the kids out as her final thing

eventually she will have some type of reality show or ensemble and that's when we'll see the kids That's when the kids will start talking. She's running out of tricks. Everything she tries just keeps flopping. Did you watch the show? The cooking show?

I watched a little of it. With Love Megan, yeah. Yeah, and then nobody watched any of it after that. Well, everyone watched like the first episode or two and then like, it was so boring. It was really boring. And unless you were making content about how boring it was, You like, no one was just, like, unless you're going to get a video out of it or something, like, no one was watching it for actual tips. No.

Well, because it was so unrealistic. It's like, let me go into my backyard with all of my bees and let me get the honey. And then we're going to extract the honey to make candles out of it. And it was like, who has time to spend four days making a candle? You can just go to home goods. Like, there's no point in that. It was so stupid. The one that I saw she was doing the sourdough bread.

And even she was like getting annoyed at it. By the end, she was like, Wow, this is taken like four days. Like I had to leave it over here with like a wet cheese towel on or however you make sourdough bread. And I'm just like, I mean, there was an expression back in the day where people were like, greatest things since sliced bread. Because you don't want to make your own bread. It was a huge. It was a huge pain.

When I went to Pompeii, okay, it was the best thing I did in Italy, you can walk through like where the town of like before Jesus, okay, the lava came over and then they found the town. So you're like walking through. They actually had bakeries back then. Even back then before Jesus came, people were like, I don't want to make my own fucking bread. Yeah. I want to go to the bakery and just get a love.

It's so much work. I mean, I know sourdough bread is like a thing people do now, but like I don't know anybody that's like truly enjoying that. I did buy some sourdough bread from some girls. Yeah, they look real Christian too. What is the thing with sourdough bread right now? Everyone's so into the sourdough. I don't know.

It does taste good. It is good. Last thing before we go, Ramona was lit over the weekend. I love a lit Ramona. Thank you to Chris Jenner's secrets who caught this moment. And she's filming the show, the EF show. Uh-huh. Golden Wives?

The golden life. A golden life, yes. And she comes back and she is lit and she does a video. She's like, well, I just had the best time with my girls. It was Lou Ann. It was Dorinda and it was Sonia and Kelly and a couple of other people and Avery. And it was, I just love my life. I love my life in Palm Beach and I got my girls.

I'm just having a great time and had a great night. Good night. That's going to be good. I missed them. At first I was kind of over it when they fired Jill and I was like, I don't care about anymore. But now that we're seeing little bits of them hanging out together and we're seeing it all again, like Bravo really fumbled the ball by letting them go. Yes. I think it's going to be a hit.

I think, you know, it'll open the door to other things and, you know. Maybe give E a second life. Maybe give E a second life. Oh, P.E of E. They also did this thing about the Price is Right with Bob Barker. And I have not watched it, but they, I guess he was, had an intimate relationship with one of the girls. And then this one. said, Holly Halster

called, says Bob Barker forced her into an early retirement over the show's scandals. She said, I hate that man. And she tells a story, the clip that I saw that one of the girls, I think, who was it? I can't remember which one her name was, this beautiful blonde, but she said, they got in a fight,

like a screaming fight in his dressing room. And she goes and someone chases her and is like, you have to apologize to Bob Barker. You have to apologize to Bob Barker. And she turns around in front of the whole set, and she said, something to the effect of trying to think what she said. It was like, I've sucked that man's dick so many times. I'm not going to now start kissing his ass.

No, yeah, it was even better than that. She goes, I'm not going to start kissing his ass now. That was it. Oh, man. And so that, I was like, I saw that clip from that's a documentary on E. And, yeah, that he was just a misogynistic dick who I guess had relationships with the women. But he always made sure those dogs were spayed and neutered. That's what he always said at the end.

Zach, you've got so much going on in your life. And you give us so much content and joy. How can people find more Zach in their life? Zach Peter all over the internet. And watch NoVilts with Zach Peter five days a week. Go to Heather MacDonald.net for me, for the Patreon, for everything else. Thank you.