Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Beyonce vs. Katy Perry and Tricked into Fatherhood

Episode Date: May 1, 2025

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Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Well, I have a lot of Juicy Scoop to get into as always. I do have a very juicy interview that you really have to listen to the whole thing because it's a crazy story that this guy went through with a one-time fling that went completely in a crazy direction. So before we get to that, though, let me get into everything.

Okay, Beyonce is here in LA at the SoFi Stadium. And there were articles saying that she was having trouble selling tickets. I've seen a lot of clips, which I always wondered, does that make people want to go see it? I mean, personally, when I saw so many clips of Madonna's concert, and then the opportunity came to go, I was kinda like, I think I've seen it all. So I don't know.

But obviously the Beehive is a hive like no other. It's much larger than the Heather hive. And they are very excited about what they're seeing. They cannot wait to go. They love the show. It looks very full. It's not just country. But it's big.

She's like flying in a car. The biggest thing is that everyone is so excited that Blue Ivy, who yes, is only 13, she's very tall, statuesque, and has become a really good dancer. She is a big part of the show, dancing, walking, strutting, and people just die over it. Which actually, I mean, I'm happy that people are that positive.

I mean, you know, a lot of Nepo babies don't do anything. This is hard work. This is showing up. This is practicing. If this is what she wants to do, which clearly she does, she's talented. I think it's great. And people love seeing Beyonce with her daughter and then her younger daughter, who is one of a boy, girl, twin set. The boy is not part of the concert. I don't know if that's because he's just not into it, if he's not into showmanship, I don't know, but it's about the girls.

But she, the little girl, Rumi, she just came out at the end and was like so excited to see the crowd and turned around and hugged her mom and then Beyonce didn't even like finish singing the song. And people loved seeing that side of Beyonce. So, you know, she has so many hits and is putting on quite a great show. So people are excited about that.

I guess there were tickets available still. I think it's more that the theater is so big, the stadium is so big, and maybe had she not done so many nights there, it would have sold out right away, but it looks pretty full. And you know, so go if you wanna go, you know, and tell me all about it.

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and she's killing an alien. But it's really this like very unattractive wig that she has on that I think is throwing everybody because the body looks great. It's just like this like bangs that are very short and black and she just looks. And the things that people are doing to make fun of this is, now I've seen a few people put this together

so I don't know who the originator is. But the very famous SNL sketch that Kristen Wiig would do, which was like these girls from like the Lawrence Welk era, and they'd come out and they'd each say their name and then you'd see Kristen Wiig and she had those tiny hands and like this really high forehead. And I'm Eunice. Okay, so what, so I've now seen this a bunch of times where people will say, well, they'll play that in the background and we will see, you know, it starts out as Beyonce and it's like, I'm Janice.

And they show Beyonce, I'm Holly. And then they show like Sabrina Carpenter, I'm Nora. And they show, you know, on stage altogether, you know, Taylor Swift. And then they just show like, they just show Katy Perry with her weird hair and like the lifesaver and like doing like a weird move. And then it's like, and I'm Junice.

And it's just, it's hilarious. She's obviously aware it's happening. I don't think it matters again. Again, when I watch the clips, people are loving the songs. They are there. They are fans, but she just got so much criticism for the astronaut thing and the way she thought that it would help so much with the excitement of her going on stage. And also just that people have to do so much

with like these big stage productions. I mean, the car thing for Beyonce, it's like she's in this like old like convertible Cadillac and it's like flying through the sky And I mean you do think God what if something happened and it like fell on people like it is just a lot And then I just think of like someone Like a Celine Dion or Adele that you know is the complete opposite as far as like these big showmanship stuff But whatever that's the show. That's what's out. That's what people are discussing. But let's not forget, Katy Perry has always had weird, big visuals on stage. Remember when she had the giant poo come out of the toilet bowl? I think that was her last tour, and it was during the California girls song.

And I think it's just to be weird and funny. Like I just think she's just kind of a bizarre chick. Let's not forget that she, you know, insisted on buying this home from these elderly nuns in LA. And I believe she succeeded in that. She also got a home from, what's her name? Westcott from Real Housewives of Dallas. Her father-in-law,

said that he was sort of swindled into selling the house to them. And then when he tried to hang on to it, and he was like in the hospital, she and Orlando Bloom got that house as well. So like, there's just like a lot of weirdness around Katy Perry's personal life. On the other hand, she goes on podcasts

and says to that, oh, you know, she'll give Orlando a BJ if he just stacks the dishwasher. And everybody's like, you don't have like a housekeeper stacking the dishwasher. Like, what is it anyway? So, you know, that's where we are in this world. It's like, everyone can comment, everyone can make fun of it.

And I mean, if it's happening to you, I just say like, hey, Katy Perry, just enjoy that money and go dance around with your lifesaver and your ugly wig. And don't look at this shit and don't listen to Juicy Scoop because I'm talking about you. Okay, this past weekend was the Time 100.

As you know, Blake Lively was an odd choice for most of us as the cover of the most influential person. They had like Scarlett Johansson, interestingly enough, Ryan Reynolds' ex-wife. She was there as one of the artists or an actor, you know, because they had like different categories. So Blake Lively got to speak. And this speech has gone viral and it's very odd.

And she gets up there and she is with Ryan and her mother. And she says something to the effect of like, I'm paraphrasing here. As a woman, the last two years of my life have not been easy, but I'm not gonna get into that. Referencing everything with Justin Bildoni and the lawsuits obviously obviously, and her alleged treatment on set, right, as a woman.

So then she says, but this is not about this. This is about when my mother survived one of the worst things that could ever happen to a woman. And she goes to tell this story, but she doesn't really get into it, that her mom, before she was born, though she was a mother with three kids, before she had Blake, had a incident happen at work that was life-threatening. So if you're watching this and she mentions work, you're thinking maybe the mom had some weird guy at work

that maybe sexually harassed her or essayed her, or, you know, to the point where then her life was threatened. What other people are reporting on? so I don't know if it's true, because once I saw one person say it, I went way deep dive, that in fact the person that threatened her life was another co-worker who was a woman. So I'm saying allegedly, because I saw this a couple of places and I have not been able to find it anywhere else. I've asked, who was this person? If this really happened and this person's life was

threatened, why is there not more about what happened to the person? Were they arrested? I mean, she kind of alludes that she didn't get her say like in court. So I don't know. I don't know why no one can find the truth behind this story because it's a pretty crazy story. I mean, I had Lisa Renna on my show years ago and she told the story of her mom, Lois, who was brutally attacked by someone that she worked with. And you know, there's a whole backstory to who this monster guy was and and like, you know, articles and things like that about it.

So I don't understand why this is a little hard to find, but she tells the whole story. The mom is like 77 and sitting there and attractive, and she kind of goes to like hug her mom, the mom doesn't. Also in the speech, she's like, we have four daughters, Ryan and I, my sweet husband Ryan and I,

we have to remind our daughters every day that you'll always be scared in an office, in a workplace, in a parking lot. Again, like, who would you choose? The man or the bear? Obviously the bear, like men are evil. And so then when she goes to tell the story of her mother, it's weird now to be like, well, what really is a story?

Like, why don't we have this? This is what you've chosen to use for your speech. Again, a very weird thing, but not weird when we think of what she's done through these last six months with this case and what she's talked about and how, you know, again, kind of making it about her. And then the other question was, if you had this story that was so close to your heart about your mother, and you were doing a movie

about a domestic violence, you know, a DV victim, why wasn't that story ever shared in interviews? Like, oh, this story, this book really was compelling to me because my mom found herself in a very scary situation. I don't know, maybe because it wasn't to best someone would say, well, it wasn't DV. It's all odd. We all get it. It's weird. They, you know, have gone out now and had a fun date to go see Wolverine's latest play on Broadway. And it's just, you know, that's what's happening. That's the latest on that, but it was bizarre. Okay, so Meghan Markle news,

because these clips are everywhere. She recently did an interview with this woman who I've seen a lot of her clips. She has a big podcast. Her name's Jamie. She's the CEO of It Cosmetics. And she puts out a lot of clips so like if she has a big star, I sometimes see a lot of it and

she's just very she lives in Montecito, obviously, she's very wealthy and Every time someone's talking to her. I mean, these are the clips she chooses, you know, everyone has their own thing that they choose the host is always like Yeah chooses, you know, everyone has their own thing that they choose. The host is always like, yeah, oh, it's beautiful. So this was just the perfect podcast to feature she and Megan Markle, who are neighbors, and they did like a podcast swap. And it's interesting because Megan shows up, not a speckle of makeup. Not that she needs it, but just sort of interesting, like you're doing a bit of a podcast. Again, we all know now that you need to be more authentic.

You need to show your flaws. That's how people are popping as influencers. Authenticity is number one. So having no makeup, interesting. And she's saying some things that a lot of people are finding like very annoying and very cringy. And Meghan Markle, you know, says, oh, well, my kids wake up at seven. So I get up at 630. And I just have a little bit of time to just throw on whatever. And I go down, I get the two kids and I take them down and I make them breakfast and

love to make their lunches, which I told you how to do little notes in their lunch boxes. And I really, really enjoy that. And then it's off to carpool. And oftentimes I'm not back, you know, until maybe nine o'clock. And then it's just, it's mom mode. It's meetings, it's phone calls and conference calls. And of course I go right to the comments and everybody's like, yeah, we all make our kids breakfast. But then another one was like, wait, where's Harry? Like now you're this working mom,

you're making your own jam, you're picking your own berries, you're making your own flowers, dried flowers that you're supposed to sprinkle on food. The packaging for the jam, which I saw someone get, and they did say it was delicious, it's so much packaging. It's almost like they're treating this jam like it's a $400 bottle of perfume.

It's in one thing, and then it's got a cover, and it's in a case, and then it's in a box and then it's in with the little like crunchy peanuts. And then it's, I mean, it's a lot of packaging for one little thing of like raspberry jam. But anyway, people like it. So then she goes on, she goes, and oh, H, he just loves me so much. I think the thing that bothers people the most that they call each other H and M and not because it's a clothing store, but their names are only two syllables. Like if Harry's name was like Humalanga Gobulobidus and she's like, I'm just going to call you H, we'd be like, thank you. We don't need to have you say the way Humalanga Gobulock Chopalopetopetopetolus, you know, expialidocious, um, makes me coffee every day.

I just call him H. It's Harry. It's Megan. It's weird. It's just strange. And I think it's all those little things, but I think this is, you know, who I, who she is. She is the breadwinner now. We don't know what Harry's doing. She's got the podcast. She's got the Netflix show. And I've always said she's just not really funny and she's not really interesting but the things that she tries to get across like and that man H he just loves me so much and it's like at the end of Mario

Brothers that at the very end of it and the host is just like yeah as if she knows what the end of I don't know what the end of Mario Brothers is. And then she says, and at the end, Mario slays the dragon and rescues the princess and that is H every day. He protects our family. And I'm like, well, he's not helping you with breakfast or taking the kids to school while you have the meetings and the podcast to do. And also I'm like, oh, you have meetings to do your podcast. Like it's just me like up at 2am, like reading things anyway.

Poor me. Obviously my life is great. And so is hers. Okay. So that, um, there we are with that. There's also an article that says that, uh, Prince William is to strip Megan Markle of her royal title title after becoming king. This is a page six report.

I don't know. I guess you're not supposed to use the Sussex names for anything, but then like someone will see that there'll be like a little like TikTok or something and she'll give someone a thank you note and she'll sign it as like the Sussexes or Duchess Sussex. I don't know. It's like, oh God, who cares? But now it's like she needs us to talk about her because what else is there? So yeah, that's just, that's her. And yeah, it's just lovely. And that's it. You know, it's just, it's simple, simple things. It's leaving. Oh, this was the other thing. She said that she tells the girl who's just smiling and

so happy to be in her presence. And she says, and I got these email accounts, which I won't say what they are. They're in other people's names, but it's a way for me to email my children. And I email them every single night. And I just leave them a message of just, I was really proud of you today when you did that art project or finished your sandwich. And when they're 16 or 18, they'll be able to open this email account and read all these. And again, people are like, is this real? Does she really do this? And would you really want this? You know, I, now that I have older kids,

they would not want to, neither one of my kids would be like, you know what I really wanna do? I wanna read a bunch of emails from my mom from when I was four. In fact, I wanna read 365 of them from when I was four. I don't believe that she does this every night. Maybe she does it once in a while. It's kind of a cute idea, but't believe that she does this every night. Maybe she does it once in a while.

It's kind of a cute idea, but nobody's gonna be doing this every night. I just don't believe it. Anyway, but good for her. She's, you know, whatever. I know right now people are thinking, how do I save money? How do I eat healthy?

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There's some guy in the back that could not be bothered. He's just like typing away. He's screaming about his kids. I'm gonna get the lawyers, they're taking me. He, you know, says derogatory things about Jewish people in this rant. He uses the n-word and the f-a-word about homosexual people over and over and over again. And that, you know, they're not going to take his kids away. And oh my God, meanwhile, Kim's got to deal with this and go to France to face the elderly robbers that threw her in her bathtub when she was naked and tied her

up to live there, to be hopefully found alive. Like the whole awful thing. I mean, I just, every time I see another thing about Kanye, it's crazy. And I don't know how someone like Wendy Williams or Britney Spears or anybody else for that matter gets in some conservatorship and this guy is just, I mean, I guess he can do what he wants, but I would think she should be doing everything at this point. I don't care if there's bodyguards or nannies with your kids. Why would you want your kids around that kind of hateful venom about anybody at any time? Like that should be enough that until he is committed and is on some meds or something

that that would be enough that you wouldn't have to have your kids around them. So I don't know. Maybe the kids, I mean, are the kids, the kids are on the internet. Like, are they scared of their dad? Are they dying to see him? It's crazy.

Okay, let's talk about The Valley. It really is such a good show, you guys. I mean, it is hard to watch because it's a lot of divorce and a lot of like custody issues and whatnot. And, you know, Jesse, who I really dislike, he goes and says on this group chat to all these guys that his soon to be ex-wife, Michelle, who has a boyfriend, was not only cheating on him, but he also believes now that she gets paid $1,500 a night to have sex with a billionaire.

And he puts it into the group chat. This other guy, Danny, tells Luke, Kristen's boyfriend, that then Luke, it's all on camera, then Luke on camera tells Brittany that she said that. Then on camera, they go to Dave and Buster's and Brittany tells Michelle, this is what's going on in the group chat. This is what Danny said he saw

that your soon to be ex-husband said about you. She cries, she's like, obviously he's saying this because I have a boyfriend, so he's trying to ruin my current relationship with my boyfriend that I'd be going off like being a hooker or whatever. And they go and approach him and he admits, no, I just made it up. He is like the worst. And they're supposed to go to Santa Barbara and it's his trip. Now we know how these sophisticated

Bravo people know that Jesse isn't paying for the $5,000 house, you know, for everyone to stay out, but it's technically his trip. So we all know that he's not paying for it. So Michelle is like, um, I don't think he should go or he should stay at a hotel. And they're like, well, he's it's his trip. He's paying for the house. So of course, none of them want to miss the opportunity to be on camera. They're all doing this. They're all exposing their lives so that they get to a level of notoriety so that they can

be the Ari automatics and get, you know, get to be hosting events and get to be big influencers. Nobody's like doing any other job. I don't think Kristen is really working on selling her t-shirts besides podcasts and doing the show. I don't see Jesse or the wife selling on any other houses. And also I'm like, God, do you imagine with all the people that you could choose to like list your home that you'd be like, let me go get this dude

to like list my house. I don't know. I'm just saying that's not who I would choose. So it, you know, it's really fun kind of to watch these people that are new. We don't know their whole life stories, but they're all so intertwined. And of course, Brittany is free of Jacks now in this episode. He has now gone to rehab.

We know that the reason he leaves this this stint of rehab early from when this was filmed a while ago is because they gave him back his phone three days after taking it. They have they can't keep the phones from you in rehab. And he saw that everybody was filming and doing fun things in Santa Barbara and they just can't take it the FOMO he just cannot take. Also, because it's his show. It's not being on camera. It's so much more than just seeing your friends having a good time without you. It's I'm missing 30 days of filming. Like how am I going gonna be featured? What's gonna be said about me? I know I'm a nightmare. Like, I get that part of the paranoia.

So she goes, Brittany goes on Watch What Happens Live, and with Luke, which was kind of a weird pairing, Luke is Kristen's boyfriend, and he seems perfectly nice. Maybe they're married. She's due to give birth any day to their daughter. And I was just like, this must be so weird. Maybe they're married. She's due to give birth any day to their daughter. And I was just like, this must be so weird. He'd never been to New York City.

And I'm like, this must be so weird to someone like him. Like, because he chose to date this girl like two years ago, now he's in one of the most coveted seats on a talk show. And just like, but that's reality TV. It's, it's taking people that wouldn't necessarily ever be cast in a commercial or be a personality. But if they're part of someone else's life, and this is a show about these people's lives. And then I want to say, yeah,

that's what makes it interesting that they were like curated and casted as being like a bunch of annoying freaks. They actually just come together and sometimes in real life you have, you know, like just a normal dude and he doesn't seem to be overly affected but you wonder, oh my god, is he going to catch the bug? Where will he be in a couple years? Will he have big giant teeth like a New Jersey housewife husband? Will he be like flirting with people? And I hope not, but it's just, you like see the inception of it and you just hope and pray it doesn't happen. So she, Brittany says some juicy stuff.

She's like, oh my God, well, you know, they're like, do you think you and Jackson would ever get together? No, no, Jackson and I are not getting together. And Julian, he broke my heart too, but I needed him to do it because he made me feel special. He saw the girls and he said he liked them and Jackson did. Now we know Jackson said really mean things about her for many years,

trying to break down her self-esteem about her looks and everything else. And so then it gets to the snarkiest question, how is Jackson the sack? And she's like, sometimes maybe a seven, but most times just a two or three. And I was like, wow, go for it. The gloves are off. She does not give a fuck.

And she wants any other girl that's gonna be flirting with Jax to know, not that great. I mean, he's also someone who was struggling with addictions and they were in a horrible marriage. So yeah, maybe when you're trying, and you were pushing to have a baby two years ago, Brittany, which maybe at the time you were still hopeful

that this marriage would work, but he knew he didn't wanna have another kid. So that's gonna affect your performance, I would think as a dude. Anyway, she's back in the house, he's in an apartment, he's doing his thing as we're watching it, and she's like hopeful, but she is so sweet because they said, did you, have you talked to Stassi

since you've announced your breakup with Jax? And because to remind you people Stassi was Jax's girlfriend at one time in the very beginning of Vanderpump rules. They were all friends and Jax and Brittany were all set to go to this, you know, very fancy Italian wedding for Stassi and her husband. And at the last minute they pulled out

and that, you know, would affect if they could have invited somebody else. And, you know, I'm sure it was a couple thousand a person, you know, over a three day period. So it was a big pain. So it really pissed off Stassi, rightfully so. And so Brittany's like, when I see Stassi like at Ocean's birthday party, I give her a big hug and I wish her the best.

And it was a really such a classy answer. And here's the thing, she probably knows now that it was more Jack's doing than Brittany to cancel going to this wedding at the last minute with whatever excuses there were. However, you know, some friendships just run their course and you can still see somebody and give them a hug and wish them the best and know that there just really

isn't a place in your life right now. Stassi's not on The Valley, Stassi's on Vanderpump Villa, which now she's gonna have her own show on a whole nother network, Hulu, with her group of like young mommy friends and all all that. So it's like I do believe that they do wish each other the best. But I thought that was a really good question. And I thought Brittany really is the girl that has like the heart of gold. And it just seems to be she keeps proving that a better character. So that's why everyone's wishing you know wishing well for her

when Jackson is promoting something for himself. I see the comments are turned off, especially after an episode of the show. And he's got to make his money too. And they make their money having drama and doing their things and bringing up things on the show to keep it going. And it's working. It's very entertaining. Okay.

Remember when we, when Kat Williams was just like spilling the beans about everything? Well, one of the places that everyone references is when he went on Shannon Sharp's show, The Shea Shea Club, and basically predicted everything that would go down with Diddy being arrested and the sex stuff that happens within the industry, especially with black men, both straight and homosexual activity, okay, all of that. Shannon Sharp is of like, he's like 57, he was this big NFL player,

but he's really made it in the hosting world, sports, NFL, ESPN, and then in the podcasting world, he has like several shows, and he was ready to sign a hundred million dollar new podcast deal with probably a couple other shows underneath and whatever. Well, right before that, this girl comes out and is suing him for $50 million for SA through out their relationship, which was like a, you know, a, what do you call it, S&M type of a relationship. He said it was consensual. She said on several occasions it wasn't. And, you know, so that is why she's suing. His, the attorney, I believe is that Busby attorney

that had brought a lot of people forward in the Pditty cases. He goes on and says this is a shakedown, but in trying to defend himself, he also reveals, yeah, this is a girl I met at the gym. She was 19, I was 56 at the time. We dated, but she was into this S&M stuff too. So here's all the messages that show that she was into it,

where she'd write them and say, I know you like my cheeks, have a 25K for each one, like her butt asking for money, saying she wanted him to give her a black baby. Like it's just to show, and she's got an OnlyFans account, everything. Anyway, the latest is the $100 million podcast deal is off the table. ESPN has said goodbye. And a lot of the people commenting on this

is like, what happened? Why do certain men feel that they have to go for such a young girl? But it's not even that. It's like people are into the freaky stuff. That's fine. But people, even young, like 35 year old men are really turned off that this 56 year old man who has daughters in their mid twenties was pursuing a 19 year old girl in this fashion. And now there's other accounts of people that have come forward that, you know, have claimed different things that have happened in various lawsuits and former arrests of Shannon Sharp. And it's just, you know, it's very interesting being in where his career was in all this past year and where it is

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Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Well, I have a real juicy story right from the person who lived it. I am here with Brett Fairley. He has kind of made a splash recently on the old internet, telling his true story. This is one of those stories that several of you sent me

because it involves a pregnancy, a lot of lies, so many lies, and let's just get into it. First of all, I just can't believe how much you went through with this so, in a nutshell, I'm gonna let him tell. A woman that he did have sex with said she was having his child and he was very cooperative and didn't mean to be participatory, but was only to find out that a lot of things weren't true.

So let's just start from the beginning of how you met this woman. That's what I want to hear. You're from Mississippi. Yeah, so we're from Mississippi. She was living in New Orleans at the time. And it was, you know, mid December, I believe. It was the picture that went viral of the 1220,

or yeah, 121220, with me holding up me hold up the sign okay saying Maria loves Brett. That was the day we met at the restaurant me and my brother and there she was having a birthday party and after having some drinks they invited us over to their birthday party and then one thing led to another and we got that night and that's the fateful night that I met Maria. So who wrote the note then? It was in my handwriting. OK.

And it's funny now, looking back in hindsight, that it says Maria loves me. Yeah. Not the other way around. So you meet her, and it's fun. Now, how old were both of you, and what was she doing for a living at the time? She was an apartment manager in New Orleans, I believe, several building complexes.

I was 24 and I had an Airbnb business that I was running and she had just turned 30 or 31. Okay. So you guys hook up, you've had sex. Correct. And then when does she propose that maybe you could just help give her a baby no strings attached? So she's it's a small town and she comes over every weekend there's like two or three bars so like we always see each

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That's Z-O-C-D-O-C dot com slash juicy, zocdoc.com slash juicy. So what was the question after that? So you'd see her around. You guys were like, sounds like sort of like a booty call, friends, friends with benefits situation. So then we get to April and I get a text kind of out of the blue and she says, you know, hey, like, would you consider being a sperm donor for me? And at first I'm like, absolutely not. Like, this is insane. I'm sure my friends are like, yeah, that's insane.

But like, after some convincing, she's like, you know, you want to be involved. You will never, you know, have to be financially responsible. Like, I'm getting of age while my friends are having kids. I haven't had luck. You know, I'm 30 years old and I'm just struggling to find somebody. And I think it's my time. I really would like to have a baby. So Me being me. I don't ask anybody for any advice. Don't ask your mom or dad or your brother. No, I didn't have my parents I didn't tell them at all. My brother is actually the one who told them and then They never even told me about it until Maria started reaching out that they knew that they knew that you had agreed to do this Yeah, and so you do it the old-fashioned way. You don't actually go to like a sperm bank and like, you know

Yeah, it's funny cuz sex to be the sperm. Yeah, that was the the selling point was you've already hooked up You know IVF is super expensive like was, you know, I've already hooked up, you know, IVF is super expensive, like, just do me the solid, like, it's a really nice thing. And I'm like, okay, I'm going to do something nice for somebody. This was your Christian service for the year? Yeah. So I had the best luck in the world, and I feel like whatever you put into the world, you get out.

Okay. So I'm like, this is my good deed for the year, you know? I'm giving someone life. Okay. And it... But you didn't think about that it would be weird to know that there was a kid walking So I'm like, this is my good deed for the year, you know? I'm giving someone life. OK. And it's... But you didn't think about that it would be weird to know that there was a kid walking around that wasn't part of your life, or you just weren't at that mature mindset yet? The first initial time she asked me, I was like, I thought about that, and I was like,

no, I'm not going to do that because, you know, it's just weird, kind of the same town, we're going to run that because it's just weird, kind of the same town, we're going to run into each other. And after she asked me and then I agreed to it, to be honest, when I was sold I won't be responsible and I didn't have to be there financially. It was just an open and shut case. I thought that that would be it. I never even thought about having to see her again. Okay. So when does she let you know

that it was a successful sperm donation? It was June 6th, 2021. I had just gotten back from a Memorial Day party in California, flew back home, and we actually went and got my bottomless mimosas and that's when she told me she was pregnant. With her while she's drinking the mimosas. We were blackout.

Yeah. And did you say, don't you think it's probably not a great idea to be drinking? I didn't say it at that restaurant. We immediately went to another one and met up with my friend and his girlfriend. And they're like, type of thing other like, this is fucking weird. And when she told you, was your thought like, what was your initial thought? Good, bad, like, is this even real?

Like, what was your initial thought? In one of the videos that I posted, I think, and I quote, I said, fuck this place, I'm moving to California. And that was it, like, congratulations. I'm outta here. You were buzz place, I'm moving to California. And that was it, congratulations, I'm out of here. You were buzzed, obviously. Yeah. Okay, so then what happens?

I moved to California and while I'm out there, I get- And she's still in Mississippi. Yeah, she's still in Mississippi, New Orleans, wherever. She reaches out to my mom, and she starts telling my mom that she has no one in her life. And she actually asks my mom verbatim, if something ever happens to me, Maria,

will you take care of the baby? Because I have no one in my life. So my mom's relaying this to me. And so it's my dad. They already have three granddaughters. They're like, hey, you should really be there for this. She has no one. There's going to be a daughter that grows up's my dad. They already have three granddaughters. They're like, hey, like you should really be there for this She has no one there's gonna be a daughter that grows up without a dad So then is that how she found out your mom or dose she knew before but she didn't let you know that a baby was

Coming through your brother I'm not sure exactly when My brother told her I just know that my mom told me that Trent my brother is the one who? Out of me on that made me look dumb in front of them but okay oh so then okay so then you know the baby's coming so she says you should be involved so you do go for the birth right yes I go to the birth I fly home from California spent almost $700 on flights. And whenever I get there, it's super strange

because I don't know this person. I hooked up a couple of times and got her pregnant. But I'm in this delivery room watching this super intimate thing where someone I don't know their middle name, I don't know where they live. Like I don't know anything about this person. So I'm watching this stranger

give birth to a child that's mine. It was just super... And your mom was just like in like grandma mode, just being like lovely helpful. Oh, yeah. They dressed... My parents put on their nicest outfits. It was during COVID time, so that was sitting in the lobby, and they couldn't come up the whole time.

But I mean, my parents were the only ones that showed up, me and my parents. So then how does now this arrangement work now that the baby's here? So now after the baby's born, I stay for two weeks and then we go back to my place that I'm doing the Airbnb at and do a photo shoot and that's when she orders the little handkerchief for my dog that says big brother and After I leave And go back to California. She gets upset whenever I don't say bye to her My dog couldn't fly back with me. Oh the crate roll and I was like really upset my dog couldn't Come back with me. So I'm like crying over my dog and you know, I'll tell the baby bye and Maria

I don't know something's like, you know later and I'll tell the baby bye and Maria. I don't know something's like, you know later and For like the next two weeks I was trying to get like updates of the baby and she was just ignoring me and my mom had a good pick up my dog in New Orleans and she told my mom that She was limiting access for me to the baby because she didn't like how I told her goodbye whenever I moved back so then was your mom like, Brett, you've gotta be nicer, or was your mom right from the start?

She didn't tell me this in the beginning. I learned all this later down the line. When did your mom realize this is major red flags? What did we get ourselves into? It was two months later, or I guess a month and a half later, during Easter, that's when my mom says that she first saw Maria's grip

tightening and switching the roles from me just being a sperm donor, not financially responsible, to making me something more than we agreed upon. Okay, so then, but she's not asking you for money yet. Not yet. I think it was a few weeks later and she first initially asked. And what'd she say?

Well, it was the text in my videos showing where she's asking to stay in my Airbnb for two months for free. And I don't respond for an hour or two and immediately she's like, I wanna take the rights and custody away of your kid. You're not gonna see her again unless you let her stay. We're not asking for much.

But just keep in mind, this is how I'm making money. This is everything to me. But her saying that she's going to take the kid away from me, I have to bend the knee and agree. And these are part of you that's like, wait a minute. I thought, you know, she was financially independent, which is why she was like, I can be a single mom and I don't need this and suddenly she doesn't even have a place to stay? That's what's weird about it she was saying daycare

so much that she's gonna take a job there's a pay cut so she can stay at home with the baby but she just needs a couple months to save up some money so she can make that transition okay and that's how I was sold on, let me have your house for free. Okay, so now she's at the house. Yes. And what are people think, like what what is the vibe? Are people like you should try to be a bigger part of it? Are they like I think this is so weird? Like what is the friends and family saying? It's funny cuz Outside looking in I'm sure it looks absolutely ridiculous. Yeah But for us like it was like hey like we're doing Easter at the house, you know

All my friends and family are there. This is my baby everyone's treating it as such and Everyone knows me and Maria aren't together and never have been so it's just there's just two people They came together and had a baby and now we all get to enjoy this baby. So then when she would get possessive and controlling did did you just think oh like oh it's postpartum or or did you think wait I think she likes me in a more romantic way and is hoping that we'll like get married like what do you think what were you thinking as she was tightening the way and is hoping that we'll like get married. Like what do you think, what were you thinking as she was tightening the grip and all of that?

Nothing. I'm such an optimist. I'm just like, oh, you know, whatever, like this is what she wants. I'll give in and make peace. I'll calm everything down and I'm just a solution finder. So there's a problem. She wants money and like, okay, here's more money and this is what you want. And so then when do you, so then you do start paying like a set amount. Yes. Was that through the courts or you just agreed to that? So she was upset about something again and threatened to take my rights away as a father and I've never been in court a day in my life. I didn't know how the court systems worked for the fathers. But from what she was telling me,

she could go and get all the rights taken and I would never see her again. So- And now you're becoming attached and obviously- This is almost a year and a half, two years in. Oh, two years in? Yes. Oh, wow.

So this is where I get the back child support and the $10,000 upfront thing. So she does take you to court? Technically, we don't go into a courtroom. Okay, but you agree to it. I didn't know how it worked. I didn't want to hire a lawyer. I was living in Nashville now.

Okay. And it's a seven hour drive from Nashville to my hometown. And I just didn't feel like going to deal with court stuff. I had work, I was living my own life, but still being there like every two weeks for for the daughter and She hires a lawyer And he actually reaches out to me and he's you know doing what lawyers I now do now or I know that they do now and

Selling me on Maria's deal. He's like oh like you're not gonna get a better deal than this. This is The best it's gonna get like I know she's a little crazy. Like he's relating to me and he's selling me on this, this deal of paying this certain amount a month. Cause yeah, they were, they did what anyone would do in that situation. If I was a lawyer, they're telling me I'm going to pay like double that. If we go to court, you're going to hire a lawyer going to pay double. Right. You're going to pay, you know, X amount of dollars more in child support. They're going to come out to your job, you're going to hire a lawyer, you're going to pay double. You're going to pay X amount of dollars more in child support, they're going to come after your job, they're going to garnish your wages. So I'm like, oh my God, I don't have time to deal with this.

I still want to see my daughter. I can't see her until I sign this deal. So I signed the deal and then 10 days later, I'd wire her $10,000 and a month after that, I start paying her $750 a month. And then are you but you're still able to have contact and see her? Do you have like a schedule like every other weekend or? So in that deal I was supposed to get the entire month of June

and then I had like Christmas and a few other select holidays like Father's Day and holidays like Father's Day and the verbal agreement was we're gonna do every other weekend and even if I wasn't in town because of work or whatever she always followed the every other weekend with my parents and anytime she wanted to travel my parents were the free babysitters. Okay right but I'm sure they like they are obsessed with her. She's perfect. Yeah. And it's heartbreaking now to see what, you know, Maria did to my parents. Well, let's just let's get to that part. So now through this time you meet your current girlfriend, right? Yes. And Hadley is your girlfriend who I just

met and she's beautiful. Thank you. And she's a nurse, but she also was kind of like an influencer, right? She had a big following. Yeah, she has a big following. People love her on the internet. She's incredibly sweet. And whenever we met, I actually didn't know any of that. Our first date went horrible, and I was like, yeah,

I'm never going to see her again. Ended up working out beautifully now. In the first date did you tell her that you had a child with a woman that you are I told her the day that I met her we're walking at the on the treadmill at the gym and before I've always been played with like I don't think I'll ever have a girlfriend because I have this crazy story. Like I had this woman who's like controlling my life, like telling me I can't date, can't have girlfriends. So I'm like, you know, I'm going to try something different this time. I'm going to be open up, be completely open.

And within like the first five or 10 minutes of talking to Hadley, I tell her this crazy story and she's like, what'd you just say? And I was like, yeah, it's kind of crazy, but I love her. It's the situation I'm in. I'm dealing with it. You love the baby. Yes. And she's like, okay, like that's, that's fair. And she also was a single mom at that time. She wasn't married and now she was single. Yep. She was going through a divorce and she's single mom now. Okay. So when, cause I watched some of your videos and this is always very interesting, you know, with certain, uh, female personality types, when you would think that, oh, this is cool. Now when you have the baby, you're with not only a woman who's a nurse, but one

who has kids herself. So, you know, oftentimes I would think a woman would be a little scared or, oh gosh, can this single bachelor like be okay with my kid? Oh, thank God he's got, because obviously there's no romance, there's no relationship. But with certain women, whether they think there's a relationship or not,

they're so possessive of their child, then it sounds to me that that was her trigger to know that Hadley was in your life. Instantly, just see, I was already dealing with Maria and what I've shown in the videos, but whenever I met Hadley, it just escalated because a few months before that, she was asking for us to be a family I'm like

No, I was polite. No. Thank you. It's not what I want and Whenever I met Hadley it was like Watching someone lose grip and control I don't know she was like waiting for me to get out of this like party boy phase and like slow down But like okay, like I'm older now now, I wanna settle into a family role. And the whole time, I was just being picky with someone I wanted to date. Whenever I met Hadley, I was like, oh my God, you exist.

You only wanna date a single father because she knew the struggle of being a single parent. And there's things you have to balance with that. So it worked perfect for us. But do you think part of it too is that she's, you know, kind of an exceptional woman, you know, Hadley is. So it's like, I don't know if you dated someone else. Do you think she'd be that insane?

Yeah, I mean, it's definitely way worse with Hadley because Hadley is who she is. And it would be like my worst nightmare if I was married if I started dating Hadley is who she is and It would be like my worst nightmare if I was married if I started dating Hadley. I mean successful beautiful Great mom, you know everything that You know Maria thought she could be for me. Yeah, Hadley actually is and It was just so tell the story about Lowe's the Lowe's incident. Mm-hmm

that was a story that Maria's family liked to get twisted and So tell the story about Lowe's. The Lowe's incident. That was a story that Maria's family liked to get twisted and try to make me look like the bad guy. And the only reason I was allowed to even see the baby that day is because I had to pay Maria. She was withholding the baby from me. And whenever I called her the night before, I asked her, can I pick up the baby tomorrow from daycare? She said, absolutely.

So I'll go pick up the baby. We go to Target. Usually she gives me a diaper bag or something. She'll still be in a room, which I guess should have my own stuff with me. But I went and got a new diaper bag, all the new clothes, got school clothes. And we do some errands.

We go to eat lunch. And then pick up Hadley and we go to Lowe's. We're redoing a bedroom upstairs for the girls. Mm-hmm. For Hadley's kids. Yep we're making it all match so we're... Now were you living now were you living together with Hadley? I still had my own house. Okay. So we weren't officially okay you know moved in completely together. We just bought a new house recently. Oh, nice. So now we are.

Congrats. Thank you. Anyway, it's the Lowe's incident. I pick her up, and we're in the paint department. She calls me, or I text her, and I said, hey, I got new clothes for school tomorrow. Can she stay the night with us? And she immediately calls me me and it's not,

hey, thanks for getting new clothes, hope you're all having fun, it's Hadley with you. I was like, yeah, Hadley's with me. And then that's when she just starts freaking out on the phone. And did she scream, use profanity? Like what's a freak out? It is profanity.

Where is she, where are y'all? I'm coming to get her right now. And Hadley had already been through court cases and she said, hey hang up, get this on documentation. Text her. So I start texting her. And like, hey we agreed upon, I was gonna bring her back tonight anyways. It's, you know, my month. I'm supposed to have her solely anyways. And whenever she starts freaking out in the text saying, I'm 12 to 14 minutes away, stay right there, we're already checked out, we're loaded up in the car,

and we drive back home. And that's when I get there and my dad calls me, he says, hey, you need to call Maria right now. She's freaking out. And I was like, what do you mean? mean he said she's been calling me running up and down the aisles at Lowe's saying my baby's been kidnapped blah blah blah I just want to tell you I've lived through two people that would pull shit like this in my life that's why people sent me your story. Well, how do you feel about it? No, it's just, it's an insane person.

It's a dramatic person. There's no way to reason. There's no reasoning. No. They're not going to change or be reasonable. And yeah. So Lowe's is like, do we need to call the police? Or what are they doing?

I don't know. I text her. Like I said, I'm keeping this documented that, hey, I will bring her to you like we agreed upon. And you know, that's that. She finally says, bring her to a gas station and on the way to the gas station,

I actually call a coworker of hers. And I was concerned for the baby safety. Cause she was just so out of her mind. Out of her mind. And I called the coworker, I was like, hey, you're not to get you involved, you know, probably too much, but I'm really concerned about,

you know, her mental state right now with being around the baby. Like, does she have a good day at work? Does anything crazy happen? She said no, it's an incident free day. She left work a little early and turns out that was her leaving work early to come to Liz.

But we exchanged the baby, no conversation, didn't say a word. Okay, that's good. Okay, so then, so it continues on and then you decide what made you decide to get the DNA test. So after the Liz incident, that was around the time that she's threatened to take me back to court.

And she's withholding the baby. And it's like getting crazy at this point. She already had this agreement and Hadley is telling me. So you'd be going, you'd be ready to have your visitation and then she'd be like, no. Correct. No, because you pissed me off this week or because you're with Hadley. Just whatever in her mind that wanted to withhold or control me. Actually asking for extra money and me saying no. But this time I actually

stopped paying child support because you know Hadley's like she can't do that. You know you have rights. Yeah. What's a right? Yeah. And we start you know going through this thing which is like I'm taking all the custody. She said that. Yes Maria did. So I'm like all right custody. She said that. Yes, Maria did. So I'm like, all right, well, I'm not paying you if you're not gonna let me see her. Yeah. And I'm gearing up to go to court for the first time.

And Hadley mentioned, she's like, that date doesn't really add up. She was at dinner one night, and it's like, oh yeah, she was born on her due date. And she's like, that's weird. So Hadley stays up late that night. She's like going through my Facebook post she's like I'm pretty sure you're out of town that weekend I was

like no I wasn't and then you know the the court thing ensues and she's like I think we should just do a paternity test just in case and at this point you know we're still on agreement. And now how old is the little girl? Two, two and a half. And we ordered the test from Paternity Lab. It comes in, we do the test, and up until we got the results in the first test. So the way you do that is you get it, and then you can like swab your dog.

Yeah, so it's an at-home test. So you like swab your daughter's mouth? Yep, you do both sides of the mouth with two different swabs on each side. And then you mail it in? Yep, you mail it in, you seal it, mail it in. Got it. It came in within two or three days and up until we were just sitting laying on the couch,

like the couch just like this, you know, watching TV, laughing, we just happened to be talking about it, she's like, what's going to happen whenever or if the results come back and you're not the father i was like babe trust me i'm the dad 100 and then like i lay down on the couch and open my email get a notification and i open it up and i just feel like just the weight and every the blood just fall out of me and i look at hadley and I said, she's not my daughter. I'm not the dad, something along those lines. And I dropped my phone and Hadley said, no, no, no, you're not reading it right, picks it up.

She's scanning it. And that's when I immediately called my mom and told her and then just broke down in tears. What was your mom's reaction? She didn't believe it. She thought that the paternity test could have been, you know. A mistake. A mistake, they're not accurate.

And I did the first test and I immediately thought the same thing. So over the next few days, I order another test. And after doing research on it, those tests are like 99% accurate all the time. Yeah. I order another test and after doing research on it, those tests are like 99% accurate all the time. So the second test, my parents still don't believe it. The first test, I know I'm a heart, because I did the test, I know I didn't mess it up.

The second one's mainly for my parents and that's whenever we were able to confirm both tests said 0% match. whenever we were able to confirm both tests said zero percent match. That is just so awful. It's. But now here's the thing. Do you at this time did you think she must have made a mistake or do you think she always knew from the start that you weren't the dad? Well this comes in, you know, in bombs and waves. So initially it is, oh my god, like what do I do now? I don't, I'm not even thinking about, did she know at this point?

I'm thinking, you know, with my parents and Hallie, like we can keep this a secret. Right. And just continue on. No one has to know, like, we love her. This is something we can just go to the grave with. But actually, you know, thinking about it and just how upset my parents were and I was, you know, about loving this kid. At any point with your, you know, nice southern family. I'm sure they're very polite.

Was anybody like, oh my fucking God, and all the bullshit she's put us through, like what the fuck, or are they thinking she must be mistaken as well? It eventually gets to that, but like the first month or so, we don't tell anybody, it's just, it's hard for everybody. And no one's, you know, trusting trusting everybody and we can't even tell Maria

So like I'm still having to go through this abuse and that's like I don't know because I'm having to figure out I'm pulling the bullshit. Yeah, you can't pick her up. No, no, no, no still doing the same thing and It was just so unfair but that was eye-opening knowing what I found out about the paternity and then Kind of taking a step back and like oh my god like I've been going through this and then that's when we start digging into You know, what did she know and then that's how we end up building, you know starting this binder Like this looks just hold up the binder it to show how big it is So you were doing this just for your own mind, but also legally and everything else, right?

Wait, you gotta stay with the mic. Yeah, it started with us just kinda doing stuff in our photos app and our notes app, and then it wasn't until we got- It's like putting a case together. Well, yeah, so we just start going through all these things and it kinda makes sense, but it wasn't until we started putting it into a timeline with all the photos and then

text and then you can start making connections there. And it never ended up you know this took six months or eight months to build so it's not like we just spent one weekend and just went crazy and you know found everything. But the accumulation, which every document in here is incredibly important, and that's the story, because when dealing with a narcissist, they will twist the story just like they did the first time after they put a gag order on me. Yeah, bring that a little closer. Yeah.

And they're talking about the gag order. What was the gag order? So, it's technically not a gag order. We go to court for the paternity thing. They put an ex parte emergency restraining order silencing me on all social media through third parties. That's what she's asking her people to do. Yes.

And the judge grants it under the premise that I'm the father, that you shouldn't be putting your child in harm's way. But you had the notice that you weren't the father. I had two paternity tests. Okay. The judge doesn't let us talk at all that day. Okay. He immediately grants a mutual restraining order for both parties and the last he actually hit his gavel and the last second my my attorney was able to ask for a court order DNA test and to my surprise

her lawyer says, you know, we don't oppose. So they're like, okay, like this is great. You know, I've been silenced, but we got the court order DNA test. They can't say anything after that. You would think. Even after the court order DNA test, she's still reaching out to... The results then come out. Yes. That's when I realized that I'm not just dealing with someone who didn't know or thought they made a mistake. That's when she started reaching out to my family and then had these acts and like trying to manipulate people and still

spin the narrative that I was the dad. She was still trying to get my parents to go to events for the child after all these all three tests have came back zero percent. And when she would try to get your parents to go to like a little daycare thing or whatever for the child, was she was that was she be would she be nice to your mom, but like a mean person to you? Was she like, but please, she's asking for her Nana. Like, what was she doing? Like something like that? Using the child as a pawn.

So the child misses you so much. You're their favorite person in the world. Like misses you so much. Nightmare. Yeah. But at that time, were they ceasing contact or were they still like, I'm sure they wanted to go. So it's like such a weird position to be in.

So after the second test, and I think there may have been a few texts here and there between the final court order text, but from whenever I initially found out and I couldn't, you know, take Maria to court or anything, we had to pretend we didn't know. And my parents, they actually still watched her, I think one more time by themselves after knowing what we knew and it caused a

big strain on me and my parents relationship. I was like I need y'all to stop this because I've made my decision. It is unfair for this kid to grow up and not know their biological family. Think about you know the real grandparents here and the real dad. They're missing out on all this. I need y'all to either pick me and go cold turkey, as bad as that sounds, but we're robbing someone else trying to stay involved. Yeah.

And so then what happened? How did that get resolved with your parents? It was me having to yell at them. I'm not a yeller. I'm not This might be the first time I've ever even cussed at my mom Yeah, but I had to just you know, finally put my foot down and be like look this is gonna be me or basically Maria and you know dealing with her and They finally just had to quit and cease contact. And it was terrible for them, it was heartbreaking.

It's like grieving, losing a granddaughter or a child. It's not something, it's emotional and it's not something that anybody should go through. So then how do you find out who the dad is? Cause the dad is someone you kind of was slightly aware of, right? It wasn't until I posted the first video. So I gave Maria ample time to respond after she got served.

Served? The initial paperwork, the fraud and... So were the initial paperwork saying, I want the $80,000 back that you paid in child support for two years? I wanted it to be off the birth certificate. No more child support. I wanted the be off the birth certificate. Okay. No more child support. I wanted the last name changed. And basically I was just gonna wash my hands with it. I was gonna be like I didn't want

any money. Oh you weren't asking for money. Okay. It was in there but that was mainly with my initial lawyer then just to scare her. Okay. But you would have been fine with no money. I knew I was never gonna get any money back. Right. She didn't have money. Yeah. So, uh... So, then how did you respond to that? You said that's how you found out about the real dad. So, then you posted that video.

Yeah, so I posted the video, give her time. She never responds to me. And I'm with Hadley, we're headed to Austin. And like, hey, well, how would you respond if you got a letter like this and she said I would immediately call My baby daddy and tell him to get his ass down here right now and do a DNA test in front of me I know those are your kids, right? Silence first time I ever heard Maria say nothing. Mm-hmm, but that's when she posted the video Where did she her response? She said that's when she posted the video of her response. She said that's when she initially started trying to twist the narrative.

That's why the details in this book. That's what was her story. No, it is him. I don't know why he's doing this. Yeah. It was, don't believe everything you see on the internet. It's not true. She's doing crocodile tears, which is funny, because it was on Snapchat.

You can see the filter had Beauty Queen while she's trying to cry and get sympathy on Snapchat. But yeah, she initially said that I, we had the tamper with the DNA test. Oh, because she's a nurse, like she'd know how to do that or something? Yeah, she even blamed Hadley these kids for being on the DNA What do you mean half with it downward that oh like he like she swat her own?

That's oh that you used some another child got it. How they wasn't even I mean I did it at the house that's where we had it shipped but Had these kids weren't there. I did the test myself. No one else I sealed it and did everything So then so this was all before the court ordered one. Yeah, this was before the court ordered So she gets served I post the video and that's when the messages start rolling in so It's a small community and people are like, oh my god. Yeah, we've known the whole time You didn't know I'm like no, I didn't know why the fuck's my pain for a baby that I know that's not mine So that's when we're like really like oh my god. How do all these people know? Let's start looking into that and it was actually one of her ex best friends

That sent me the message back in October that she asked another man to be a sperm donor also So if you're going into a situation Where there's a woman asking hey, I'm asked you and another guy to be a sperm donor also. So if you're going into a situation where there's a woman asking, hey, I'm asking you and another guy to be a sperm donor, you know, obviously you get a paternity test because you don't know whose it is. But she never revealed that there was anybody. She never revealed that. So is the guy aware of it now?

He's very aware of the video I posted today. I put his name out there. Today? Yes. And he's also been aware the whole time. I've also recently learned that as soon as I did that she started reaching out to him and they've already been doing play dates. So she's claiming she didn't know when the whole time she immediately went to the other guy and they're doing play dates. So now how long has it been since you found out and stopped the contact? It's been eight or nine months since I found out

and then six months, six or seven months since no contact. And so how much money, I'm sure you took the time to add it up, how much money was it? It was a little over $52,000. Wow. In two and a half years. And are you suing her for that? What's the plan here?

We actually just left court last week. I testified for six hours. And I brought my book. I tried to explain my book. A lot of stuff wasn't allowed into evidence. And the only way to get off of a birth certificate... so there's a thing you sign at the hospital and it's called acknowledgement of paternity. It's an unbreakable contract. You sign that. You have a year to do a DNA test if you're suspicious of anything.

After that, you're the father for the rest of your life no matter what. Unless you can prove fraud. Right. So we go to court and I test five or six hours. I provide all my evidence. They try lying on, um, you know, photos and different things. They didn't have any smoking guns, just that me and Maria had sex before. I was like, yeah, obviously I admitted to that. And at the very end of it, I'm actually still waiting to get the paperwork,

our judge said, obviously you've proven enough to say you shouldn't be on the birth certificate. So major win for me. I'm off the birth certificate. I don't have anything to do with child support anymore. And then here's where I think the story goes on a bigger scale because now with the $52,000 that I never initially thought I was going to get back, that the judge said I get zero of it back because her lawyer provided a definition of the word fraud. And in the Mississippi law, fraud is defined by nine points and you have to hit all nine

points of the law in the fraud definition in that kind of court, I think civil court or chancery, and almost no one wins ever because you can't hit all nine points. And the one that they argue was, I didn't know I was being frauded the entire time. You have to know from the beginning that you're being frauded, so. How's that fraud?

That's what I'm saying. So in my eyes, I won major in court. I got exactly what I wanted. I knew I was never getting any money back If I already got a dollar back out of them, like this is great so now this is where I actually got a text today and I'm meeting with some lawmakers in Mississippi next week and we're gonna look over my case and There's no paternity law at all for fraud in the state and I

think a lot of people from the reactions online the comments that a lot of people that go through the same thing and after I think if I can get my law changed that we're gonna start looking at a national scale and start you know trying to revise and make it fair for men's rights to be heard. And I honestly think that everyone having a baby married or unmarried or whatever, there should always be a paternity test done because you don't want to wait 25 years down the line, do an ancestry.com thing and find out

you've been living a lie the entire time. Yeah, I mean, why not? And I know people personally in my life. I mean, they do all the tests on the baby right when it's born anyway. Why not just make that one of them too? I did the at home test. It was like $45 or $50. You're telling me we can't get some government mandate to put in a $50 test for a baby.

Babies are expensive to be born anyways. I didn't know that. But it costs a lot of money to have a baby and what's an extra 50 bucks? And I personally think that anyone who wants to argue that it shouldn't be done, if I was the husband or boyfriend, I would be really suspicious. Why not? What's there to hide? Right. Wow. So now you guys don't live near each other now, or you do? Hadley and I bought a house two weeks before we found out. It is incredibly close to where

Maria lives and I mean I could throw a rock out of the end of the road and hit it where she lives. We go to the same gas station in the morning times. Do you see the child? I have not. And I was on the- That was so hard. I was on another show recently, and someone asked if I wanted to. And I don't think it would be a good idea for me or my parents

or anyone that was involved to reopen old wounds. I agree. Especially at such a young age like that, where she will probably end up forgetting us. And this is her important time to bond with her real family. I totally agree she is young enough she won't remember and you know and it's important yeah that that her mom is her most important person you know nobody's taking her from her mom correct and then if it's this guy,

or if she goes on to get married or whatever, or stay single, you know, you didn't, you know, obviously you did nothing wrong. And just, also that it was just so unpleasant. Like it'd be one thing if, you know, this was a girl, you know, it's heartbreaking too, if you're this was a girl you know it's heartbreaking too if you're with a girlfriend who who said you were the baby and the whole time knew it was the guy that she met the night before but then to also have

just been like such a bitch and like so awful about every visitation and you know you better pay or you're not gonna see her I'm gonna tell everybody you're a shitty dad. And I did think that you just went through that for two and a half years. Are you just like, what the hell was that? Looking back now, when you're living it, I guess a lot of people have abused this,

exactly what this was. You don't realize it's happening to you, but when you look back, trying to do these videos and read these texts, I'm like, oh my God, like how did I not see this? And if she would have just, now that I've proven that she knew the entire time, she had a sweet setup.

She was getting a bunch of money, she was getting, you know, free childcare. She would have just kept her mouth shut and- And been pleasant. and been nice. Yeah. I always thought that it was my kid. She could have rode off in the sunset, but no, thank God. But because she's crazy and was jealous. You got to be grateful. And also, I don't know that you would have, I think you have to be grateful for all these things because I don't know that you would have been the same guy to be where you were for Hallie to fall in

love with you. I think because you were the dad, because you were going through this hell, because you chose to be so vulnerable, like if you were the, if you guys met at the gym and you were Brett prior this nightmare you might have been all like da da da da let me try to date her a little you know and she would have been like I don't even want to deal with this dude. Yeah. Have you thought of that? I have and it's so unfair because that's the gift. I don't know if I have it with me right now but I prepared a an impact statement I was going to open with in court and what people don't know if I have it with me right now, but I prepared an impact statement I was going to open with in court. And what people don't understand is me and Hallie met on the premise we were both single

parents and I had a two and a half year old, she had, you know, six months younger child than that and we didn't want to restart. We were moving on, we were going to be a blended family. And now I don't get to have my own biological children now because I have only had two girlfriends in my life and one in high school and then one, you know, 10 years later. And it's not often you fall in love and find someone perfect for you. So Maria robbing all that for me and then me and how they based in our relationship off that I, I don't want to restart again You know she has kids and I love them now

It's just It'd be so unfair for me To backtrack on how they play hey want to restart when she's already made a decision. She doesn't want to restart She's done having children. She's done having children. I don't want to restart either. So I was robbed of ever having my own biological child just because she wanted to take advantage of me. Well, I think, you know, yeah, I mean, listen, this is really great that you are using, that you went about it this way and that you are hopefully making something positive out

of it for the future of the world. And then, you know, in the process, you really saw how Hadley, your girlfriend, you know, put up with this shit, because I've been in the position to put up with it. And it is so hard. And for most stepmothers out there or girlfriends of a guy that's going through something like this, it's a very hard position to be in. You're always seen as in the wrong because you're the girlfriend

and you're not the biological mom and you're trying to like make it peaceful. And, but you also get to see how great the world is You're trying to make it peaceful. But you also get to see how great the woman is that you did choose. So I mean, so you haven't really run into her then. No, thank God. You know, there's people in my life too that live close. And you don't really see them that much

when you're not planning. I mean, I don't know what it's like to live in a small town as you. But you probably won't, hopefully, see her that much. And if you do, maybe it'll be, like, in a couple years, slow down. But I don't know. Is she really angry that you've made this public?

Yes. Oh. Yeah. I would be, too. I don't know. Is she really angry that you've made this public? Yes. Oh Yeah, I mean I would be too if I did what Her and her friends have done. I would be absolutely living that People are exposing me. I you I don't know how they asked her the day. What's the worst thing you ever done? I was like, oh, you know, I said whatever it was and she's like, how would you feel if the whole world knew that? And I was like, I'd be embarrassed. Like, why would I ever do that? And me doing what I'm doing to them, like I can relate to them now if I think about it like that, but people like that need to be exposed because I can't tell you the countless DMs that I've got,

people that I'm helping here in this story and giving them the courage to speak up or question things. So, you know, it's something that they absolutely deserve. She actually did an interview with Daily Mail last week and under the gag order she's not supposed to be talking, did an interview and said that karma is what's gonna be coming for us. And I think it's absolutely hilarious that she's getting exactly what she's been wishing upon me falsely. Yeah, I mean, it's really, it really is an insane situation.

But I remember watching one of your other videos. So some of these friends that I guess were, they were putting out content too about this story they were her friends were content creators or what was your beef about that because I was like trying to follow all that. She had she hid under the cover of the judge said we can't talk. Okay. Which actually she started using her cousin and friends to attack us and spread lies. So we just sat there and documented everything and whenever I was ready to speak and had everything ready, the truth, that's when I started debunking all their lies and

calling them out for it. And just recently, even after posting all this and getting through most of the series that I'm doing, her friends are still attacking us and making death threats online and doxing our address and changing their business address to our home address. Just being incredibly, you know, they're harassing us and being so unfair that we didn't do anything wrong. They're trying to fight us at gas stations. So now that that person you did to fight us at gas stations. So- So now that person you did run into at a gas station

is a best friend. Yeah, the crazy friend, but actually yesterday- Is that the one that said that she was Miss Vietnam? No, that's her cousin. She, that's the one who's on her little TV show, reality star thing. Oh, okay. Saying she's classy.

But the people who tried to attack us into the death threats, they all today were just issued arrest warrants and they'll be dealing with all that criminally now for harassing us. Oh, wow. Yeah, so we dealt with it forever and then it just kept escalating.

And for people who aren't even involved at all, for us, Hadley and I feeling unsafe at our own home and we went and bought a big new dog, we put up security cameras and it's just getting worse. We were tired of dealing with it and we felt scared so we finally, you know, turned it over to the people who can actually handle stuff like that. Well, where can everybody follow you to see what's going on or if they need to reach out and get some advice or what to do in their situation? Well, where can everybody follow you to see what's going on or if they need to reach out

and get some advice or what to do in their situation? So on Instagram, I'm at Brett Fairley and then TikTok, I'm at Brett Fairley zero. Well, I really appreciate you coming and telling your story. And it's just really horrible. It was, you know, I love that you were so vulnerable and you admitted it was dumb to think that that there could ever be a no strings attached. No man should ever think that that is the case. Let this be a lesson to everyone out there.

Yeah, it's no. And the same thing goes for, you know, women that, you know, that where a guy, maybe you're with a guy and he's like, you could have a kid, but I'm not gonna help you with the child at all or whatever. Also women, that's not who you want either. Like go forward with people that when you both want

to have a kid, know that that's gonna be the case. Don't believe that somebody is gonna be active or not active or whatever, because it changes once the child is there and people change. But I do think I'm all for a paternity test. I mean, I have sons and I wouldn't, that would be absolutely my worst nightmare because you know, every mom dreams of being a grandmother and to have that just like ripped away from you and being torn, knowing that you do have to go with your son, but at the same time, oh, wow. Well, I hope

your parents are doing better and all of that. Yeah, they are. But we're navigating and getting through it. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for coming on. Yeah, thank you for having me on. Have fun. This podcast is brought to you by Aura. Aura monitors the dark web for users' phone numbers, emails, and social security numbers, delivering real-time alerts if any suspicious activity is detected. For a limited time, Aura is offering our listeners a 14-day trial plus a check of your data to see if your personal information has been leaked online, all for free when you visit aura.com

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