Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Blake Lively’s Texts, RHSLC Scripted Finale with Brandy and Julie

Episode Date: January 21, 2025

Julie Goldman and Brandy Howard are here! The latest with Blake Lively vs. Justin Baldoni involve her texts to him that are beyond cringe. Is Taylor Swift also a dragon? RHSLC finale may have been completely scripted and we break down why. Was Kyle ever a lesbian on RHOBH. Matt from The Bachelor’s break up is strange, but I share how he wasn’t truthful 4 years ago either. Jessica Simpson is getting divorced and Meghan Markle may follow her lead if it means she can get a big book deal! Enjoy! • Start the new year off right with Honeylove. Get 20% OFF by going to  https://www.honeylove.com/JUICY ! #honeylovepod • Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at https://www.rula.com/juicyscoop/  • Reverse hair loss with @iRestorelaser and get $625 off with the code JUICYSCOOP at  https://www.irestorelaser.com/JUICYSCOOP ! #irestorepod Stand Up Tickets and info: https://heathermcdonald.net/ Subscribe to Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald on iTunes, the podcast app, and get extra juice on Patreon: https://bit.ly/JuicyScoopPodApple  https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop  Shop Juicy Scoop Merch: https://juicyscoopshop.com  Follow Me on Social Media: Instagram: https://www/instagram.com/heathermcdonald  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald  Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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or shake up your mood with an iced brown sugar oat shaken espresso. Whatever you choose, your espresso will be handcrafted with care at Starbucks. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have what I like to refer to as my two dragons. I'll get into that when we talk about Blake Lively, her amazing text messages to Justin Baldoni. But first, let me introduce everyone's favorite comedic duo, the stars of Dumb Gay Podcast, Julie Goldman and Brandi Howard.

Welcome back to Juicy Scoop. My girls, my dragons, my everything. Oh my God, I'm like living. You have no idea. Oh, I love it, I'm a dragon. Wait, a very exciting thing happened on Friday, and there's not a lot of tickets left. We are doing one show in Palm Springs on March 1st

at Agua Caliente Palm Springs. This is gonna be such a fun show. It is kind of an intimate room. I think probably half the tickets might be sold. Wow. Probably after this it will be sold out. Yeah. We've got Brandi and Julie joining me. We are going to do standup. We are going to do hot topics. We're going to do housewife impressions. We are going to talk shit. We're going to talk to you. You know the shows are always different based on what's going on and we're so excited. Maybe I'll bring the bongos. Oh my God.

You don't wear to bongos because, of course, you know, Lurah Dulles-Eps can play the bongos. But you know what? So can... So can Tom Sandoval. Yes. And I think that bongos are the, should be the official Bravo instrument.

Like, if Bravo had their own band, like a college, everyone would just be playing the bongos. Yeah, it's because you can get up to it. You're dancing, you're moving. All you do is a rhythm. You can fake it. Yeah, you totally can fake it. You're just doing it.

Yeah, I love it. Okay, do you have bongos? I do. Shut up! I did not even know that. I do. We are 100%, you can fit that in your trot. I have bongos. In do. Shut up, I did not even know that. I do. We are 100%, you can fit that in your truck. I have bongos.

In fact, I think I said, well, yes, yes I can fit it in the truck. I have every instrument. Can I just tell you, every time I do a show, especially at a casino, there's so many people to help us. Those gigs are the nicest. Right, because they have a whole crew. We have a whole crew.

And they often have a bigger production than just three sluts with a mic. Okay, so like they usually have like a musician, whatever. I am so excited to be like, yeah, can I, where do we go for the Lone and Dock? Yes. We've got Julie's bongos. We are loading them in.

We'll talk later. I have every instrument. I'm excited though to relocate those bongos to our house in the desert. Cause they're cumbersome, she never touches them. I'm like, oh good, let's keep them in the desert. I thought it would be a good idea at one point. I thought it was, but you'll see,

you kind of, you'll get into it and you'll be like, hmm. Cause they're stand up ones. Cut to 20 years from now. A young Juicy Scooper who's no longer young goes to happy hour at 3 30. And there is Julie just sitting outside. Yeah, just doing that. Hey everybody, how are you?

Welcome it's 3 30. And those bumps are on purpose. We are trying to do those sound bumps. Right. Anyway, that's going to be super fun. Okay, let's get into the latest of Justin Baldino. Baldoni? Justin Baldoni suing now Blake Lively, Ryan Reynolds and her PR firm for $400 million. So she first sued him or made a complaint. I don't know that she ever put a dollar amount on it, which exposed the fact that there were 30 things that she complained about to SAG

regarding what she felt was sexual harassment, her claim, sexual harassment on set, other people complaining about it. That was while they were filming the movie, then there was like a COVID break that was like on record and then were filming the movie. Then there was like a COVID break. That was like on record and then they finished the movie. Then we heard about the movie. We knew they weren't on the red carpet together. I talked a lot about it. Why are they not getting along? Not enough people were criticizing that the promotion she was doing was all about clothes and flowers and Taylor Swift's song being used in it and not the fact that the book was about a woman overcoming domestic violence. We kind of hear like we were seeing her cut of the movie. She was the EP and star, but he in fact was the director

and star. Why didn't we see his cut? All this. I watched it about two months ago and I thought it was weird. I didn't love it. I was like, Shannon just watched it and Shannon reads every book. So she read the book and she actually enjoyed watching the movie on the plane recently. So she her opinion was that it was good. So I'm like, I really kind of wonder what his you know, take his cut would have been. So to catch everybody up to speed, her initial thing was, you did a PR smear campaign against me, making me look like a bitch. And I have all these texts and everything from your former PR company, Justin's former PR people, where it looked like they were possibly using bots or this place in Texas to get out

conversations, threads, Reddit conversations, all this stuff about what a horrible and difficult person Blake Lively is. So therefore she wanted it out there because she's like, you ruined my reputation. So then he was like, and along with all this weird sexual harassment stuff, which was including like him showing her a video of his friend's wife giving birth or something, saying like, this is how we should do the birth scene because there's a birth scene where Blake gives birth. And talking about porn, also saying weird stuff like, oh, I could talk to the dead. He was just saying weird stuff like that.

He came in the trailer while she was like pumping or breastfeeding. Yes, but then he had a text saying that she said, I'm just pumping, but feel free to come in. Which pumping and breastfeeding, that's where, you know, pumping is like you could put that machine on your boobs, cover it up, there isn't a baby, you're not maneuvering the baby,

still pretty intimate in my opinion. Other people don't care, whatever. So there was all of this he tried to combat. He first sues New York Times for their discussion of her lawsuit. He felt the way they wrote about it was defamation. So the first thing was him and his team sued New York Times. No, first she came for him. Then New York Times covered it. his team sued New York Times. No, first she came for him. Right, okay, but then he did New York. Then New York Times covered it. Then he sued New York Times for defamation the way they covered it. And now he's coming forward with all of his receipts, which are all these text message and communication.

And the kind of biggest thing that's coming out of it is... And he's countersuing her now? For $400 billion. And Ryan Reynolds, her husband, star of Deadpool. And the stuff that has come out is, I have never watched Deadpool. I know it's a really popular, funny, dark Marvel movie. So good. He, in the last one, I guess, Ryan Reynolds has this other character that comes out.

He dresses with like a man bun. And he's called Nice Pool. And he says, oh, one of the, I guess this scene was shot but cut out, but he says he has a podcast about feminism. Justin has a podcast, Being a Male Feminist. He talks about how my wife, you gotta see Nice, you gotta see my wife, Nice Pool or Lady Pool.

She just had a baby and you wouldn't even know it. Her body is so svelte. And the two other guys are like, I don't think you're supposed to be saying that, which is maybe reference to the fact that he was like, how much does Blake Lively weigh because she just had a baby and I have to lift her up on this thing and I want to make sure like I've done the physical training for it. So that really bothered her. That bothers me. Yeah, that's not, no.

So there's all that where he's kind of saying, there's too many references. You're clearly making fun of me. And if you were making fun of me, it's like in public opinion, were you really then in a place of like feeling sexually harassed by me? I feel like you could be both. I was sexually harassed by a man named Norm Pattis who ran podcast one. And he is no longer living. Okay. He was an older man. He died a while ago. I never like made fun of him. But if I wrote a bit and we had a gross podcast owner and he had big teeth and he wore a gun and

he bragged about helping the Lakers win the thing. I'm just saying like it still doesn't mean what he did didn't matter. It's like you put it out there and it's like well this was and then you could even do it. This is not based on anybody that we know. There's a lot of guys that wear man bumps who claim to be male feminists and there's probably a ton of podcasts about male feminists. So that could be the argument too, but clearly. I mean, I will say just for the record,

I mean, we're comedians and we deal with things in humor, and we've had, you know, like what we consider abusive or traumatizing situations that we then go back and make fun of and make jokes about. Yes, that's what it's about. Yeah, yeah. And then Ryan Reynolds is a super funny comedian. that we then go back and make fun of and make jokes about. Yes, that's what it's about. Yeah. And then Ryan Reynolds is a super funny comedian. I mean, he's going to, you know,

deal with whatever insecurity or trauma he was feeling. But in the public opinion, does it hurt the opinion of, does it like weigh down Blake Lively's complaint? But you saw the movie, what did you think? I saw it, first of all, I saw the movie. And that scene set and that scene Now that scene has like you saw Deadpool every one of them And that's see I know exactly this thing you're talking about but the thing is that it's

hundreds of other Deadpool's so yes, the man bone is there and lady Deadpool is there, but there's also like little person Deadpool and little kid Deadpool and there's a lot of Deadpools. So, there's all the different iterations of every single kind of person you could make fun of. Right, every type. And in addition, so is that you? If you fit the bill, so what? Right.

Is Dyke Deadpool in there? Probably. And I think she is, like with short hair and fucking, it's all there. He's making fun of everything. Like, that's what we do. The Karen Deadpool. So many times people are like, oh my god, you know, this show is so funny. Clearly this person is based off of this.

You can do that. That is something you can legally do. You can, you know, but there's, but there's fine lines. Did you use my likeness without my permission? It's like a fine line, but still it's not an illegal like thing. It wasn't Dustin Del Donnie Deadpool. It wasn't Dustin Del Doni Deadpool. You know what I mean? It wasn't Fruston Frelflone Deadpool. We make fun of things around us. That's what we do. We make fun of male feminists because they deserve to be made fun of.

We make fun of man buns. We make fun of, and if you have those things, you just have to laugh. What are we doing here? Okay, so there is that going on. Then, you know, we heard about this when this happened, that they did not do the red carpet together, and that Justin and his friends were sent down to a basement at the theater or whatever to either wait

for to go on the red carpet, or I don't know if they watched the movie down there or whatever. But he we heard about it and now he's sharing all the photos of he and his friends, which he had like 25 people. So they're not next to like five cases of water or like five. Yeah, they're like they didn't give them popcorn. I mean, the other thought is, okay, well, you know, is it just her that didn't want you on the red carpet or are there other people that said, he creeped us out, we don't want you on the red carpet? And the people running the thing was like, look, whose photo is going to be shared more?

Blake Lively in a beautiful dress that she got from Britney Spears or something from 20 years ago? Like, that's a, that's a click moment. Is that going to get more than, than him in his pink suit? Like whatever, we're going to make them happy. The other thing is in Hollywood, are we making the more powerful person, which is her husband is Ryan Reynolds, who's got this huge franchise of a movie. Are they the more powerful couple than he?

Right when her lawsuit came out, he that weekend he was dropped by William Morris who also represents Ryan and Blake. Well that's shocking. William Morris said, oh you know we were not told by Ryan to do that. They don't have to. This has happened since the beginning of the time when there is a breakup, a divorce, someone gets fired from a job of a TV show, and the bigger agent is just to please that person, even if it was never said, is like, you know what, I think you might be served at a better agency.

And they can do that at any time. They can say, we're not feeling it anymore, they don't owe you anything. So there was that. So now let's get into the fact also in this that she, in rewriting the movie, also she admits to never reading the book, Blake. Oh.

Huh. Yeah, it's a strange choice. Yeah. So then she, and I'll read the text, but first she says, basically, there's this scene where they first meet on this rooftop of this apartment. And I personally, when I watched it a month and a half ago before the lawsuits, I thought it was weird.

I thought the scene was weird. I thought, what is this? She walks up and he's all angry and he's throwing this chair. And I was like, oh, we know he's a domestic, he's like an angry, violent dude. This is the first sign she should have noticed it. But he's by himself and he's like a angry, violent dude. This is the first sign she should have noticed it, but he's by himself and he's like a neurosurgeon and he's like, I just lost a five-year-old kid. No.

So then you're like, okay, that's a reason to be like throw a chair around. And he flirts with her and it's just sort of weird. But anyway, she said, I worked on this scene and I rewrote it. And now he, in his complaint is saying that Ryan Reynolds and Taylor Swift, who is Blake's good friend who also lent a song to the movie, helped rewrite this scene

and he's, you know, and it's so much better now because it's such an important scene. And then there's other parts where Sony emails or Sony's like, wait, hold on. Ryan Reynolds is now a writer on this movie. Do we need to give him Writers Guild credit? Do we need to pay him? We don't want to get into a bad place where somehow we didn't do our due diligence because

this is actually, there's evidence and texts and whatever that he actually helped writer get into the final draft. I don't know. So there's that red hair you told us about. Yeah, she went with a red. I hate it when any blonde goes with a red head choice. Just need to do that. But anyway, and also it's all about her weird clothes where she'd wear the double pants and all these strange things. And she said there's parts where she's like, we got to change my wardrobe to have a beret. And then the people, even though she had a wardrobe people, she wouldn't do her wardrobe at the, you know, cost that the, she wanted the wardrobe people

to come to her house to help with wardrobe, not go on set. Still, you're the star, people do that. I don't think that's that big of a deal. I just saw recently a video of her promoting the show because the girl has a flower store, Blake's character. Oh, so she's like a woo woo. And so she's talking about it with somebody

and they're both like styling flowers. And the host of the show goes, oh, and she goes, well, here's mine, Blake, here's my flowers. And it's interesting because you use the same flowers, but then there's yours and then mine is just like, I don't know, that's just more. It's just better. Like literally says that. So I don't think there's any doubt that she has pretty privilege that acting jobs came very easy to her, that she is a bitch. She was dating, here's the drill,

just part. So Ryan Reynolds was married to Scarlett Johansson and they worked on some movie together while he was married and they were just friends and then Ryan and Blake fell in love and got married and have four kids. According to this girl, because I don't know if this is true, but TikTok was gone for a minute and then came back. Stephanie Wilson on TikTok said, one thing no one is mentioning, if this is not true, go after this girl. Because I saw this just like before we recorded. According to this girl's info, Justin Baldoni is the EP of a movie that Scarlett Johansson is doing her directorial debut right now.

Oh, that's the tea. You can easily look that up, I would think. Stephanie's probably got the info. I'm thinking Stephanie didn't make this video. Wow. And so what is the like this is just such a mess. Okay, so now let's get to the fun texts, okay? That are everywhere. Blake writes, if you send me the FedEx,

I'll work on it when I can, or whatever that means, and steal the moments. And yes, of course, please send to Christie. We're all on the same page with the same goal. So then, I guess he gets the scene. And Justin writes her, great also was working on rooftop scene today I really love what you did it really does help a lot makes it so much more fun and interesting and I would have felt that

way without Ryan and Taylor okay because she said they had helped with it. Right. You really are a talent across the board really excited and grateful to do this together. So kind of kissing her ass, being nice, giving her a little love. So now here we go. This is first back. That's very appreciated and means a lot. I'm deeply inspired by the film we're going to make outside of the success of this book. We have such an opportunity to not only surprise people who love the book, but reach an even bigger audience by making an undeniably a dynamic and also commercial film. The moment that excited me most the other day was when you said you're not funny. I got wet when you said you weren't funny just then. Okay. You, period. Our, period.

Going, period. To, period. Kill, period. That, period. Rooftop, period. Scene, period. You know it. I'm sure, I don't remember either one of them

ever being funny in the whole movie, so I don't know what funny part I missed in the rooftop scene. That he was unsure that he could pull off something funny. Even though it was said in a playful self-deprecation what funny part I missed in the rooftop scene, that he was unsure that he could pull off something funny. Even though it was set in a playful self-deprecation that we are all participants in, it made me think of the process as a whole. Please know I trust that you on the day you've got me, and I hope that you trust that I've got you, if you want it. We're in this together, and

we are two of the most determined people I know. We also have very high bars to set for ourselves to collaborate with that type of partner is a gift that neither of us will squander because we both care too much about the result and also the experience. So I think this is one that he's sharing to say. I was in gaslight.

Also, yeah, we had a good relationship. We were complimentary. I was open to the changes. She yeah, we had a good relationship. We were complimentary. I was open to the changes. She was, you know, boosting me up. I was boosting her up. Yeah. And then- That was a mindfuck to then find out.

So also in this text about Ryan and Taylor helping, this is where- We'll see Game of Thrones. I think we're going to get into the Dragon. If you ever get around to watching Game of Thrones, I don't know, do you have a year and a half to watch? Right. Have you heard of this show? Right.

This tiny little niche. You might not have heard of it. You'll appreciate that I'm Khaleesi. Oh. Okay. And like her, I happen to have a few dragons. For better or worse, but usually for better. Because my dragons also protect

those I fight for, you... So really, we all benefit from those gorgeous monsters of mine, smiley feminine face. I don't know what that is. It's like a happy face that had their lips done. I don't know. You will too. I can promise you that this can be interpreted as a bit of a housewife's threat. Like, it's not a threat, it's a promise. My dragons can be cute because they can breathe fire on you and make you wish you never had turned on HBO Max. That's right.

Watch Gable Throats. So there is that. Now there is also this rumor that's going on. This comes from Anna Marie, also a TikTok person. Blake Lively dated her Gossip Girl co-star, Penn Bagley. She auditioned for The Great Gatsby and didn't get the role, but ended up in a relationship with Leonardo DiCaprio while filming Green Lantern.

She had an affair with Ryan Reynolds. They said they were friends. Now her husband, who was still married to Scarlett Johansson. She often falls for her co-stars. So the theory of her falling for Justin and possibly, I'm adding possibly, him rejecting her and having a controlling husband could be a major factor behind all of this. I don't know about that. Last one is a reach. What's a reach?

I think the last one is a reach simply because... That she was baby flirty and he wasn't responding and then it turned into negativity. Oh, she could have been flirting, but I don't think she developed a thing for him, just because, well, just because he's not as hot as Ryan Reynolds, but, and she has three kids and she just had a baby. Right, but if you're not feeling the attention

from Ryan Reynolds and you're like, I'm gonna do these sexy fucking scenes. That's true. And I'm gonna show him, like if you're not feeling the attention from Ryan Reynolds and you're like, I'm gonna do these sexy fucking scenes. That's true. And I'm gonna show him, like, you know, he better realize he married the hottest thing that ever walked the earth. Yeah. Cooked a koh-wee-see of it all. And somehow in thinking, hmm, yeah, I wanna do this hot movie with Justin, yeah, I wanna... Like, I've never had...

The only sexual scene I've ever done in my 25 years of marriage is I played in a sketch, I played Amy Winehouse, rest in peace, when she was real fucked up. And I had to do a sketch where I drank a smoothie and then made it look like puke while I made out with one of our PAs, who was a man. Was he hot?

Yeah, he's still cute. Ryan, love you. Ryan also lost his home in the fire. Oh no. But love Ryan. And yeah, and so that was the only time, but I have always been like to legally like be able to touch like a whole different person. And very full on sex scenes too.

And maybe if your husband is like not as you know romantic with you or whatever and you're just like let me show him. Not that she was going to like screw him, but I don't know there could have been an underlying thing in her head. We'll never know. But since you've put it out there, right in three lawsuits for us to analyze, discuss, we are going to discuss all the players. So I have gone back and forth. I did an episode with Coco Moco and she was very pro Blake Lively a couple of weeks ago. We got some hate for it. She was very pro Blake Lively a couple weeks ago, and we got some hate for it. Then Justin's thing came out, and now people are going through that.

I'm getting word that there's some scripts flying in for you. Yeah, that's right. Wait, hold on. I think William Morris has some, yeah. Very highly sexualized. One's called Sex in the Basement. One's called Doing It with the Plumber.

Yeah, one's called PAPAPA. Yeah, oh my God, bring them, bring them you guys. Bring them. Like why not? Oh, there's so many. The May, December. Peter will only be coming for the free craft services and then we'll be like, oh you have to fake

having someone go down on you? Oh, that's all right. Like, then as someone's fake going down on me, I can hear him talking way too loud. Near craft services. Talking about how his flying lessons had to be canceled. And I'll be like, Peter, I am faking an orgasm. Can you guys tell Peter that he has to be quiet on set?

And then he's like, oh, sorry. And then he leaves. We have been a part of the Peter talking too loudly. Oh, Hilbert Gale, I was standing outside and it was too cold meanwhile. It's like, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. The police showed up. Heather, we have to go.

Just telling stories. I'm in the middle of the room just to tell out. Just telling stories. So in hearing all of that, and you have not, there are people that have gone through all 179 pages. What do you think of it all? And then we'll get into our... Who released the text? Was it him or was it her? Or both? She released texts that then in her complaint, in which then in his complaint, he was like, wait a minute, this was taken and doctored and not completely shared by either her and or New York Times.

So that is what sparked his to go forward and go, no. I think he realized whatever this was, he can walk around saying, everything I've done, I've never done one thing wrong, it was misinterpreted, whatever. There's a couple of schools of thought, you know, is he just trying to get away from those accusations that really are like career debilitating? Any kind of sexual harassment, any kind of weird stuff? Things that happened, you know, like he had some friend of his play a role in the birth scene as like a doctor and she was in the birth scene was like very uncomfortable for her. She wanted less people there. She felt like she wasn't being properly like covered in the scene.

Like there's all of that in her complaints about Justin. So there's all of that. I mean, I think it's clear to say she's probably not the most delightful person on set. She's probably very entitled. She might go after your man. She is very pretty and knows it. She thinks she's funny and she's not. So a lot of her jokes and stuff don't land and it's just like weird, awkward bitchiness.

So I think that's all true. And as a Bostonian, do you recall when she played kind of the fucked up girlfriend of Ben Affleck in the town? Oh my God, I love the town. I love the town, it's my favorite movie. So fucking good. But I did not know a Boston accent

and I actually thought she was good in that. But there's ace, some people either thought that's what made her be deemed a good actress and some people thought it was the worst acting on earth. But as a Boston person, I can't determine a great accent from a bad. I don't remember it offhand, but I could listen to it and tell you.

Okay. So yeah, unfortunately. I thought she played a good trashy girl that was like. No wonder she hooked up with Ben Affleck, because he directed that movie. I would hope so. I would like to hook up with Ben Affleck still. Yeah.

The town era is my favorite time, because there's nothing sexier than a bank robber, but who's a really good boyfriend, which is what he is. Right. And so I mean, I will love that, love that movie. But I don't know. So I think there's that. I think we're getting another word on the script. Wait, hold on. Ben Affleck is texting. I think it's Ben Affleck directed to sex-bank robbing movies. Yeah, no, he's doing a new movie called The Village. Right,

now there's like a single mom. It's a sequel to The Town. It's a single dad now. The Village is the Village of Woodland Hills. Warner Center Village. Yeah, where there's a cava and a sweet fish. He's going to take down like a chipotle. You're the executive chef and there's a scene where he goes back and he goes, what's for dinner? And you're actually, you know what, you're the executive chef. And there's a scene where he goes back and he goes, what's for dinner? And you're like, I am. And then he lifts you on the thing and then. Yeah.

He doesn't ask how much you weigh. He doesn't need to know. He doesn't need to ask. He's so buff. No, him and his rising phoenix, horrible back tattoo, gives his backbone strength that Justin doesn't have, like rising from a phoenix back. So he used that lower back to lift me up

and plop me on the counter of Chipotle. Correct, and then have dinner on you. That's right. That's the dragon. Those are your two dragons right there. I'm loving that idea. And then I think we can all agree that Justin is a guy who deems himself as a male feminist

and overly man, and is a guy who deems himself as a male feminist and overly male and is a total mansplainer. Yep. And thinks he's this like evolved person who's not and also panicked and whatever when he felt like, shit, I'm losing this movie and I don't know what to do. And so I think we can agree they're both terrible kind of gross people. Just awful.

I think the biggest takeaway for me is just how upsetting it is that these bot farms can be hired and then just invade the fucking internet and trash you. And then now you are responsible for hiring another bot farm to go trash that person. And if it were real public sentiment, that'd be one thing. But we know that it's not. We know from experience that even when that time a long time ago when the Selena Gomez

people came for you, they were all bots. I know. To remind people, I did a funny, I did a story where one of those stories you get obsessed with, where is Selena Gomez's best friend who gave her a kidney? Because there was a cover of a magazine that said, my best friend, and it wasn't the girl who gave her the kidney. So I was like, okay. And now I don't care if somebody wants to, if I have to, if I get the bots today, because I now understand what it is. But when I started to get all the hate and the stakes up, I just was imagining like all these like teenagers like getting out of algebra to

like write me. Yeah, and I was like, how do they have time to do this? Like how, what is this? Like you're in Frankenstein. Yeah, like I literally was like, oh my God, I'm imagining all the from all over the world, like all these teenagers that happen to listen to Juicy Scoop. I'm like, wait, I didn't know that. My demographic was like 15 years old. And then I realized, oh no, they must have some type of thing that the minute someone says anything

possibly negative, they have a thing that happens. And I don't think it's Selena being like, go! I think it's whatever is working her team. Yes, her team. And so, yeah, I think now going forward, I love that it was exposed. I do think these bots are going to have less power and be less valuable and people take less credence. But it's that feeling of where they would have conversations with each other.

So then there could be a page six article, the internet's ablaze. Everyone's talking about it. Everybody's saying that, you know, Blake Lively was a bitch in this interview, and da da da da da da, and like, that's what she was saying, that it was like a definite campaign, and that I believe was just in part of that,

that's he's saying no, you know. So, it's a very hard thing to prove too. It's like an impossible thing. People were turned off by her interviews. By like everybody go out and get your florals on and head out to see the movie. And it's like, no, I don't really think that's the right tone.

But then also there's evidence that it was, that was her direction from the studio. To not talk about DV in interviews, to only talk about get your girlfriends. to only talk about, get your girlfriends. And she says that we're gonna make it a different, people are gonna get something different from this movie than they did from the book. Why are we trying to make it some kind of

sleepless in Seattle? I don't know, why did they ever pick this movie? Honestly, we're always right to books like that too. But you still picked a different Colleen Hoover novel. Do something else then, if you to do a sexy romantic relationship movie, why are we doing? We'll do the village. Do the village. Do the village. The village of the village. Come on.

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you're gonna love this discussion because this was an episode like no other. No other. And Meredith, they all went horseback riding. Housewives either have to go horseback riding or go on a camel, you know? And in doing it, she farted and the mic picked it up. It was amazing.

And then I didn't pick it up, but Julie and Brandi did and you guys posted it up. It was amazing. And then I didn't pick it up, but Julie and Brandi did. And you guys posted it, and it is fucking hilarious. It's the best thing she ever did. And she laughed. And she laughs. Ehh. I heard it.

I was like, Julie, Julie, Julie, you're going to die. You're going to die. Julie, stop what you're doing. I was like, and I rewound it. And Julie did die, because it's so on brand for her. I knew it would never be mine alone again and it would only be Julie's. She has watched it 900 times, got that clip, posted it and then she's had an existential crisis where she's like this, like, do we love Meredith

now? I'm like, I think so. Well, we were going to off Meredith. Yeah, I don't just, I want to go on record and say at this time, because Mary has stopped running her church. I don't dislike any of these girls. Okay. I don't dislike any of them, but now let's just talk about what happened in the final scene of this episode. Are we going to go back and talk about how Meredith said,

I let you in my home with the recording because that was a pure comedy too. Let's go back. Okay, the previous episode, they're in Porto Varda, the new girl, Brittany, who is a professional singer who is on and off with Donnie and Marie's nephew of the Osmond Klang. And he's real thirsty. Cause I follow her now like on TikTok or Instagram.

And she's always singing. She was singing a song throughout a Hawaii airport. And he took her hair extensions, and he's acting like her while she films them. And they're just, oh, god, they're trying. And their team is doing the utmost. But I got to say, she has, like a bot farm, has saturated social media.

Yeah. She's really done it well. I mean, she's definitely in a combat. She's pretty entertaining. I don't know that she has any real friendships with anybody, I don't really care. Yeah. She's pretty entertaining.

So she's not in the poster, but you know, maybe next year she gets a snowflake. So she, they're on the bus, the Sprinter vans, fighting about something. Now the cameras are filming it. They know that. But they catch her recording the conversation. They must have seen that she put it and was on her thigh recording it.

And they're all like, what are you doing? And she's like, oh, I wasn't. While you guys were fighting about something really fucking juicy, I was trying to FaceTime my daughter. Like, completely gets caught, admits it, then doesn't admit it, and it's so embarrassing. It's so embarrassing. It's so intense.

Have you ever been caught doing something like that? No, I only have sent the email to the person I'm talking shit about, sent the text to the person I'm talking shit about, sent the text to the person I'm talking shit about, answered the phone while thinking I'm ignoring the call and been like, oh, just like, when is he going to, we had this one where I was taking this, like I had to take something to my manager and I answered the phone on the, like he called and I was just like, he fucking sucks. I just want to drop him.

And I looked down and I see that it's on the phone and I start screaming. Julie had to pull over like a more part. You mean you asked it wasn't a voicemail like you were actually called and I went to ignore it and you answered it and then I'm just like I just want to fucking drop him like he's so worthless. And then I see it and I go, ah! And I start screaming. And she pulls over on Moorpark and I'm like, ah!

And she's like, it's fine, it's fine. And I'm like, ah! I didn't want to go to his office. I was dying. I was dying. Okay, speaking of that, I've had two awful things happen. One was the guy, the current agent I had like doing one thing had the first name of another one doing another thing.

And they were like- Was their names like Noah or something, right? We'll just call them Noah, okay? So this was many years ago. None of these people are in my representation camp now. So, because it's only Drake and Peter, I'm just kidding. Because of this incident. No.

But I like the big agency was named Noah. And the little person that was still booking my stand up was named Noah. And the big agency was like, we really want to bring you in here to see if we can also cover that. And I was like, okay, Noah, because whatever. Anyway, in the email, the one that was not supposed to be privy to it got it because in putting it, so that has also happened to me as a Heather.

Oh, right. A few times where whoever is representing me at the time is also representing similar Heathers. So I've seen deals happen where I'm like, oh, I'm glad she's doing so well. Yeah, now I know her rate. And then, but also I just remember like the whole thing for Heather DeBrow came through.

Because my, at the time, email that I was using with the agent was Heather DeBias. And so I think would end up. And I remember I'm going, well, if she doesn't take this, I mean, could I do it? And they're like, oh, no, of course. I'm like, listen, who cares? Like it's a mistake, whatever. I don't care. But I think, yeah, that's happened.

Or if you scroll down, sometimes you've been completely under the thread, and you're like, oh my god, yeah. There's that. But also, I had something that, to this day, haunts me. I might cut this out and save it for Patreon. I don't know, because it just feels so geeky. It's good for Patreon though if it's juicy.

In this case with Britney, I don't know what she was using it for. I don't know, because I don't know what she could really use it for by usurping the producers, right? What they got annoyed at is that, and to be clear, I was so uncomfortable with how hard they went on her in that van.

I felt that was way overblown and she did seem like a little lamb that didn't know whether she could, because she isn't really the sharpest tool and she is very entertaining and she's beautiful and I like and I enjoy watching her. But you know, she's not as savvy as those girls. It's her first season and they went in so hard in so hard, it did not feel right or good. I thought it was horrible karma. But I will say, I think their issue was that she now has receipts on her phone that if that scene or any scene,

even what she was filming was a fight between, I think, Lisa and Bronwyn or Bronwyn telling whatever it was. She now has the receipts and so that if the producers don't air it, she's got the full fight and they don't have the control over that. So I think that's it. It's like we don't keep receipts because if the edits bless you, if the edits bad or whatever. I think her intention was just that of being like, oh my God, this is pretty juicy. Let me just like, I have my phone right here.

Let me just do it. I don't know that she would have done anything with it, but I also get why they were like, you don't fucking do that. We have to know that, yes, we're doing this in front of the cameras, but we are not to be feeding this to bloggers, sharing it with other people, putting it out, holding it as, you know, ransom like that. Right.

So that leads us to the now the final scene of the finale. Because they're the queen franchise of these things with the bloggers. Yes. I mean, this is an OC, but like they do a lot more than anything. Yeah, a lot with bloggers here. So we get to the end and and out of nowhere, Whitney goes, yeah, I mean, I've been talking to Monica. And Heather's like, wait, what?

You've been talking to Monica? To remind everybody, Monica was Reality Vontee's blogger who got revealed in the other explosive finale of this same series when the wind was blowing and Heather says, I figured it out that Monica, the new housewife, was actually this blogger that was talking to all of us and spilling shit about all of us and you know, whatever. So she got the boot. And she's like, why would you be talking to Monica? Because I want to know the truth. I don't even know why she said that. And so they're like, you know,

and so then Heather gives this speech that is like, we have to face what people say about us, about our looks, about our families, about our business, about our character, all over the internet every day. We don't need to do it to each other. We, this should be a sisterhood. We should be able to work together

and know that we should not be participating in what then gets put out there from these people. And I'm watching it for the first time thinking, yeah, that's really true. That's really true. I'm so bummed this is part of the Housewives because it certainly didn't exist five years ago on these shows, you know, and now it's such a part of it. And it's annoying because they all make friends with these people and they all divulge things and, you know,

and the people it's not their fault either. They get the scoop and they want to help one that they think is their friends. It happened so much in New Jersey, almost took that franchise down. they think it's her friends. It happened so much in New Jersey, almost took that franchise down. By the way, Jen Shaw is coming back. Her sentence has been reduced again. Looks like she will be out in the beginning of 26. I thought November 2025. This year. No, it's 26. But it could be it could be shortened again. Because the prison that she's at in Texas is one that keeps reducing your thing as long as you're doing all the

stuff and participating and being good and you know, all that kind of stuff. It's gone from eight years to like three? Yeah. I'm fine with it. I think when you do a nonviolent crime, you should be spending less than a year in jail. Personally. Well, she did she did screw over a lot of people. I know she screwed you. I have to pay fees and I think there's things you can do for the.

But I think to be to take up space and to pay taxes for people in prison, for me personally, I want you to be doing a violent crime. OK. So Heather says that about all of this. And then she goes. I know what we're gonna do, of course I'm paraphrasing, I know what we're gonna do to you know be able to move forward. We have all said awful things about each other and we have all texted each other awful things about each other. Now every single one of us is gonna pull out their phones and look through the text

messages of the last five years and find the meanest thing that we've said about somebody to another person here, hand it to the person in which we ripped them a new asshole, said the awful thing, and now they're going to be reading it on camera. And all of a sudden, everyone seems to find it before the next course is. I'm gonna say right now, I said on my Patreon, I think this entire thing was scripted. I don't think anybody texts those messages to each other.

I don't think anyone, but do I think- They wrote them. Do I think they've said it? Yes. Do I think these are the sentiments that they have said to their individual producer? Yes. The individual producers put this together and they're like, you're all doing it. You all are in this together. You guys are a top show. It is entertaining. So I do believe this is how everyone felt about each other, but I don't believe, and there'll be never

any proof to it because they'll go to the grave with it, but I don't believe that they ever put those things, mostly because some of them don't fit their narrative. It doesn't fit their point of view or the way they write or talk. And yeah, so like the one about Mary. And you wouldn't hand your phone, because when Angie hands it to Bronwyn,

all I thought was like, how are you not just going like, and looking like if you talk that shit, what did the person say back to you? Because it was a screen grab of that that they all had ready to go in my opinion. They had it ready. I agree. In my opinion. And also she like laughed.

Okay, if I was faced with this, now listen, I don't have to be on a reality show. Okay, I haven't sold my soul, whatever. So I would have just taken my phone and said, Oh, fucking no. But also I don't write shitty stuff. Because I'm a Gen X woman. If we're gonna if I'm gonna talk shit, we're gonna meet in person. I'm intelligent to you on the phone. I don't text stuff. I can't believe people are still texting stuff. So that's why also, but they could have, they could have, but I'd still believe. So it was like, at least I'm not, so Angie's to Bronwyn

and Bronwyn is married to Todd, who is like 27 years older than she and is very wealthy and wears a crazy outfit. And Angie gives her the phone and she's like starts to cry. At least I'm not like Bronwyn. Now she's reading it about herself. I mean this is straight out of like Mean Girl Heather's Worst Than Anything I've Ever Seen. Who's married to a man who has one foot in the grave. She's already crying. And the other on a banana peel. And then it was like, I don't know if she said,

something gold digger blow jobs. I don't know. She said she can't hear because her ears are stitched too tight to her head. Tightly to her head. Now did she have that little surgery that people's corny ears back? We never had noticed.

She doesn't listen. Yeah, she talks about ears. I'm gonna tell you, a pin back ear job has been around for 50 years. And it is the easiest thing to do if you or your kid has it, pin those ears back. There's literally no reason not to. It's not even that expensive. Like, thank God if she did get her ears pinned back, good.

I don't really fucking wear the ears. It's a table full of Botox and filler and surgeries. Why are we talking about somebody who got two pins in her ear? Every single, yeah. Your lips are out here and your tits are coming out of your shirt. And I like this, I mean, they're all great. But we can't, we're not, there's no way. Any, like, what I love about the housewives

is they've all done this when they're like, yeah, you've had two no jobs, so have you, but I only had one, okay. Well, mine wasn't that great, had to go back sometime back to like it's the same thing when people in high school used to say Are they somebody go? Oh, do you have acrylics? Um, I do but they're my real nails. They're mine underneath. Yeah Well, of course you have a big chunk of like they're mine underneath. Yeah Yeah, yeah Yeah, the some of these are mine and some of these are not. Like, what are you saying?

Like, who cares? It's that same thing. So she says that, that's horribly mean. Then Mary goes, okay, Heather, I'll let you read mine. And Heather goes, Heather has changed. Ever since she became so famous and successful. And so much better looking.

She isn't the same Heather that I knew. She doesn't seem to care about the little thing. I don't know what her speech was, but it was, and she said successful like three times. Hers was one of the better ones. Yeah. Yeah. So this is why I think Heather's got a spinoff coming

for the beauty lab. Because since the show has started, she had it first, but now she has like two or three. Oh. Right. And because it said successful, but it didn't mention the book, and you couldn't say the fame of the show.

And this is the same person that also said, yeah, I called you inbred, because you look like that. And now she wrote... Yeah, eloquent. Now she wrote this nice thing. Like not thought out. Now I'll tell you, this wasn't my first thought

when I watched it. That night, that morning, I believed it, and then I thought about it more. And now I've come to this conclusion. It doesn't take away the fact that the show is so fucking entertaining and I cannot wait for the reunion. Yeah.

So then we get to the juicier part. Which is literally like tomorrow. Whitney, Whitney. Whitney goes, okay, here's something that I wrote. And she gives it to Lisa, and Lisa goes, okay, let me read this. I wrote it to a different friend. No one care.

I thought that was the rule. She's like, okay. So she's like, we were at, Justin and I were at a party and a girl wanted to join us as a third. And she said, I have already been vouched for because I've made out with Lisa while I gave her husband a jerk while I jerked her husband off.

Wait, what? This is fucking disgusting. What are you talking about? And she's like, what? I don't know. It's true. The girl walked up to me and said that I said, I don't know that it's true, but that was the meanest thing I wrote.

So I decided to put it on the show. Like, what? And I was like, oh my God. And then she's like, this is terrible. I mean, this is worse than when everybody said that Angie's husband was getting circle jerks. And Angie goes, what? My husband wasn't in a circle jerk? and she throws a napkin, her tit pops out. Yes. Why are you bringing up my husband and his gay rumors? Well, I'm just saying because he did.

Like why, why is it about me? Oh my God. First of all, I definitely think Whitney and Justin are swingers in some effect. 100%, a million percent. There's a million story, not a million, but there's a handful of stories that approve it and who cares?

She did this, she's like, who hasn't given two hand jobs under a desk? I don't know, a lot of people. She also deep throats a champagne bottle. She puts a champagne bottle all the way to here with no hands, like Whitney. Oh, she did. Like on their yacht.

She took, yeah, she did throw the champagne. Clearly very sexual and they're clearly, so I don't know what. That was a rumor the very first season. Yeah. That they were swingers. And she got mad. And it was like about Meredith and Meredith was.

I know a good story about a rumor, but it was told to me directly. Just that they were out with good friends and then this girl participated in a threesome with the good friends. Not with them. It was probably the same friends that bone down with Lisa and all what's his name, Lance Armstrong. I don't know. Listen, we will never know the Lisa stuff. There was rumors that she was given BJs for jazz basketball tickets. I just don't believe that.

And that's when we encouraged you to do so when you went and I also love that that storyline confused people that they're like who wants to see a jazz band that bad they're like no it's the basketball team why they always get so I'm on Lisa's side though I appreciate that it is so low like the show has gotten so low that you're like breaking down a 20-year marriage with two kids trying to say that she some rumor that she's never gonna be able to shake now. So gross, Whitney. It is gross.

It just was not gonna look. I don't like the hypocrisy of the sex stuff on these shows. Like they'll, for one hand, it's like, he's got a huge dick. And it's all the stuff about guys they wanna get with and the kind of sex they have and guys and dicks and stuff. But then they weaponize it It's like you they aggrandize it and then they weaponize it and it's annoying. I think it's because I

Believe the producers have too much of a hand in all of it And that I really really do and because they're like we need to make this interesting and fun We want to be to be good and then the girls are like, okay, we know we're part of a show We can't take it seriously. Maybe they call each other after and they're like But this reunion looks pretty off the hook coming up and they bring up Lisa with another boyfriend And you know Meredith there was always that you know Seth that you know Meredith Lisa had said about Meredith that you know, that you know, Meredith, Lisa had said about Meredith having sex

with half of New York and then did they share, did she and Jen Shaw both date somebody? That's right. In Heather's second book, she said that Monica made out with Jen Shaw's husband or he hinted at it. And then, and then Monica said that's not true. It's like, yeah, it's a lot of cheating and all that stuff because that is what's juicy.

Like, it's not, she stole my spice cake recipe. It was my grandmother's recipe, she stuck in my house and she stole my spice cake recipe. That is not the housewives we care about either. So they give us what we're asking for and then we call like morality on it. Heather Gaye though is the biggest one. And again, we like all of them, whatever.

But she loves to stir the pot and be undermining, and then when that person's like, ugh, and then be like, no, I'm your friend. I think Heather is the Tamra judge. Woo! Yeah, good call. She keeps it going. She's fun to watch.

She's blonde. And she does what the producers ask of her. She definitely knows what to find. We still don't know what happened with her fucking black eye. No, no. I think she woke up with a black eye that day from either getting drunk or rolling on something

or falling in the middle of the night or whatever it was. And they said, okay, you're gonna do a big reveal to Meredith, you're gonna keep it secret. You to Meredith. You're going to keep it secret. You're going to keep now this is keeping you now you've only revealed in your book. Did she ever reveal it in her book? I feel like we never found it. I just because I don't think she knows. I don't think she really knows. I think it was a very drunken night. And I mean, who hasn't woken up from a drunken night and been like, how the fuck did I get this bruise on my thigh? And you don't really remember or whatever,

or it didn't hurt when you did it and you rolled back into bed. I mean, it's like, so that is what happened. And we'll never know. She never said, that's for sure. Yeah. But we're gonna be watching that. We bet you didn't know.

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and I watched this season. It was Chris Harrison's last season of The Bachelor. And he was falling for this girl. And before we knew, Rachel, before we knew who was going to be picked, Chris Harrison did an interview and it had come out, the people on the internet found out that when she was a freshman in college, she went to a Lady Antebellum party and wore old fashioned 1880s outfits that this frat had, but the frat had said, stop having this party.

And this frat that she got invited to, they still had it. And there was a photo of her. So they brought it up to Chris, and he was not at the time, it was just a big nightmare time. And he was still kind of defending her as an 18 year old who got invited to a party. I believe knowing that she was the winner. So then it comes out and she is the winner. But then when they sit down with the new host after Chris Harrison had, you know, mutually decided to leave or whatever with your money and go

away, they had this guy, I don't know his name, black host, and he's interviewing him and she's sitting there and he won't look at her, Matt, and just, I need to talk. I've been seeing people about this and everything. And so they act like they're not together anymore because everyone's like, you can't be with this girl who went to this party when she was 18. So I go do the Bachelor, okay? And I find out they were secretly dating the whole time. And I was like, and you threw Chris Harrison under the,

like, I just kind of was like, I you threw Chris Harrison under the, I just kind of was like, I don't care. I'm talking about this on Juicy Scoop. Like it is so, so then I keep watching them and now they come out. We found ourselves back in love. Okay. And now they, for the last four years,

they go and he just feeds her food. Like every, it's all about going and traveling and eating the best pizza with hot honey on it, the craziest gnocchi you've ever had. And she's very pretty and she doesn't have to wear makeup. And it's always her being like, taking a big bite and him filming her eating and they go on these trips and they've been doing this for four years, but they never got engaged. Okay?

And then all of a sudden Friday, he says, we're broken up, but like, thank you, God, or something. And it was two hours after he had posted her eating something in London. So people thought that he was hacked. They're like, wait a minute, like, usually people break up. People start to notice they're not tagging each other and they're not following each other. It's been a month since they posted no more food, are they anorexic? Why aren't they eating

this food? And then we do a mutual with the help of our friends and family, blah, blah, blah. You know, we're going to be best friends forever, but like we aren't staying together, as best friends do. And now we know that she was totally blindsided. Her sister commented was like she had no idea. I think people are speculating, did she break up with him or did he break up with her? But he went and posted this right away. Just like the Brianna Chicken Fry deal. Wow.

Yeah. And so that I just, because that was probably one of the, I haven't really been watching it religiously since, so this one I really remember well. And I did like watching their eating videos. I thought they were so fucking cute. I felt it was very sad that they had to pretend not to be in love because the internet hate was so incredibly strong.

For her? Yeah, and I was like, I can't wait for them to come forward and tell how they like had to pretend to not be together just so that he like wouldn't be crucified. And you know, but also I felt he was that's also wasn't fair to her to pretend like, yeah, I felt like it was like, it felt like it was something that would happen 50 years ago. We can't be together. Why are why are we, what are we doing? It's 2025. But because of that time, Why are we hiding?

It wasn't 2025 though, it was 2020. But 2020. And it was that time, and it was like, It's canceled. But so anyway, I'm dying to now see why they broke up, but also I would love to have them come forward, whether on Juicy's group or somewhere else, and really tell what that was like.

Who told them that they had to pretend not to be seeing each other? And it's so crazy. So there's that. Now Jessica Simpson's also getting divorced. How do you feel about that? I read that they say she's changed a lot since her huge weight loss.

That she's just, she would always visit the school with her kids. Yeah. And her kids are older. I mean, they're not older. Just like Heather Gay. She's changed a lot. Yeah, she's changed, she would always visit the school with her kids, you know, and her kids are older. I mean, they're not older. Just like Heather Gay. She's changed a lot. Yeah, she's changed since her success. Yeah, when she got successful and thin, when she started doing shoes and got into a size two pant.

Not the same, not the same mom. No, I think Mary might have written, Mary Cosby might have written the article that I read on page six. But yeah, it says she's changed. She's changed and no one, she's not at the school anymore. And then they did all these, you know, sexy photo shoots. And supposedly they both been checked out. Infidelity is not ruled out, but they both been checked out. It's not him being into her and she's not into him. And so I don't know. But I mean, we know she has been sober. She wrote a book about becoming sober. So sometimes that's clarity. Yeah, sometimes it's just the end.

They have two or three kids. You had your kids, you had a good run. It was nice. Now we're done. And then also, Meghan Markle, she decided to not have her show premiere this month where she makes simple things beautiful. And the theme song of that show,

I can't remember what it was, but it was like, she's like, ha! And they're like, nothing's off limits. And like, whatever, she cuts a piece of fruit and squirts her in the eye, and she's like, what? And I'm like, oh, crazy shit's happening in Montecito. She's filming it not at her house, not a surprise. Why wouldn't you film it somewhere else?

You could keep the lights there in the kitchen. And she does crazy, innovative things. I remember reading an article that all her friends call her the avocado toast whisperer. Ooh! Right, because you can do other things with an avocado toast. Some people put on little red, you know.

Crushed red pepper? Crushed red pepper. What? Some people do the red onions that have been marinated. Oh, pickled. Some people do like some hard boiled egg. Papito seeds. Hard boiled egg.

Not papito seeds. Papito seeds. Oh, now we're getting so crazy. It's crazy. So she does things like take hummus and then also add a little extra virgin oil on top of the hummus. Whoa. Stop.

What are we doing here? It's crazy. She also puts little pieces of fruit in. Where? I don't know if you can handle it. I don't know. In an ice cube tray, fills it with water, and then the ice cubes are like decorative,

but also have a piece of fruit in them. That is too much. I'm almost like, I don't even know how to. It's crazy and then she has some of her celebrity friends just stop by someone else's house and things aren't perfect. She's selling you guys. It doesn't have to be perfect. Oh so is she like what's her name that was the that chef? She's the Martha Stewart that's not perfect. British. Nigella Lawson. Yeah, Nigella Lawson, who cooks and is beautiful. But it's like, she's messy.

Yeah, she's messy. Messy. You know what? When I make frosting, I get my finger in it. I'm not even a g- uh-oh, some fell on the floor. So Perez Hilton, I saw he commented, why did she put off her show till March? And she said it's because of the fires.

Yeah, I thought that was a smart move. That's fair. What it is is, I think she didn't want to be doing the press for it, and she doesn't wanna miss out on the press. So this happened kinda with COVID, where there'd be something premiering, and sometimes it really helped

that your thing premiered during COVID. But if you were one week off, it just disappeared. Like my second special. Well, probably if you're in a beautiful home, doing beautiful things inside while everyone lost their houses. You want to wait. So I think it was an agreement between her and Netflix. Let's do it in a couple of months when I can really get in front of it,

remind people of it and all that without being criticized. So I don't think that's a bad thing to do because even Dorinda on Watch What Happens Live, when they talking about the fires, she said, yeah, my pressure's canceled for traders. It's crazy what these fires have done to people. I had a whole lot of flights set for LA and they told me don't go.

Shhh. Ha ha ha. Poor Dorinda. Poor, poor Dorinda. I cooked that clean, I made it nice. And then there was a fire and they said, we don't need you on KTLA. What?

Ha ha ha. Hashtag the Palisades. Yeah. Like she's. Hashtag California Strong. Hashtag California Strong. Hashtag California Strong. Yes. I don't get, I'm not a Meghan Markle fan.

Here's the juice. Supposedly, page six reporting that Meghan Markle's team reportedly shopped a book about her life post divorce from Prince Harry to feel it out. If she wrote a book, you know, post divorce, post princess divorce, whatever it's called, after the, what can we call it? I don't know, it could be a good title. Anyway, how- After I ruined his life.

Yeah. After I took him from his family and destroyed his entire life. You mean the divorce from him or divorce from the family? No divorcing him. Even though they're not divorced? Right. That her team were like, look, what could this garner? Because maybe if they, listen, okay, so think you're thinking about divorce and you're Meghan Markle. Okay. And you're like, we don't, you know, I'm now the other thing is, he gets all this money

from Diana. Okay, he gets a chunk of money from Diana. From whatever trust. But at least in America, like even if you're married, and your spouse inherits something like from his parent, it that is not community property. Okay? So let's say they get divorced and he takes his Diana money. So she's like, look, if we get divorced, I need to know that like, I'll write about it. I got to be I got to know that there's a market out there for like $10 million. And if you tell me there is, we'll see. At least I know that in the back of mind. I'm not there is, we'll see. At least I know that in the back of mind.

I'm not saying we're getting divorced right now, but at least I know that there's a pot of gold, literally, at the end of the divorce rainbow. Now this could all be a lie, but I would, if I was in her position, I would do the same, you know? She's like one of the most calculated. No, she's messing. She puts olive oil on hummus.

I just, I don't know. I think every single move that they have made, that she has made, that he has done to appease her, this is my opinion, is just, it's like, just smells of, you know what it is? It's the text messages aren't real. They're written and then you read them. It's just not real. It's all just You're you're a what's the word? I'm looking for you're just a fake. She's just fake calculated was good calculated I don't like I mean in the end I mean whatever doing in the end while she's trying to you know do creative things that everyone else has done Yeah, like like yeah add, a sprinkle of goat cheese

on the avocado toast. Who does that? Me. Anyway, when she thinks to do something like that, she's still coming home to just a balding redhead guy in his 40s who is not getting invited to anything great. You could have had it all though. He is not, he's not. He could have, they could have,

you could have stayed in that family. What you wanted was you wanted to marry a prince and then you took him away and whatever. But why didn't you stay there? Why didn't you just stay and fight the fight, fight the battle? Because I think it wasn't as fun as she thought. I think the gloomy weather was not as fun as she thought.

And she thought we can become like billionaire Kardashians. And they did. They got the hundred million dollar deal from Netflix. They're still getting a deal. Here's, you know, they got the Yahoo or whatever it was Spotify deal for the podcast that nobody listened to. But it's drying up. It's drying up because they know they're not creative powerhouses. No, they're not likable. They're not creative powerhouses. No, they're not likable. They're not creative powerhouses. There's nothing hold on to. These are the Kardashians.

You're holding on to. They're not Seth MacFarland, OK? No. Like they didn't. Yeah, like, oh, you're just going to be churning out material. Like everything you do, nobody likes because nobody likes you. Yeah. Like you and nothing you're doing is.

And the jam never came. And where's the jam? The jam never came. And where's the jam? The jam never came. And maybe if the jam was delicious, or maybe if the goat cheese on the avocado toast was mind-blowing, but you're not doing anything that's... We're not blown away by any of it. Even his book.

The next show is going to be like, we go to bars together, and we see how it said everyone who's ever pitched a show. Here's an idea, we walk around, we travel. With our celebrity friends. Yeah, we go to bars. We go to bars. We have a who's ever pitched a show. Here's an idea. We walk around. We travel. With our celebrity friends. We go to bars. We go to bars.

We have a drink, we have a laugh. Like, okay. Also Jessica Alba supposedly getting divorced too. I think this is in his decon. From Anton Cohen? Yeah. All right, it does look like him. Totally does.

Cute guy. He is cute. Cash Warren and you know, they have or she has the Honest guy. He is cute. Cash Warren and you know, they have, or she has the Honest Company, which is huge. And that's, you know, like baby care and skincare and everything throughout Target. So we'll see what happens. They have three kids, how that's gonna split up.

But one thing you don't do when your friend is going through divorce is continuing a funny texting relationship with their husband. How do you feel, because I've talked about it, about Kyle defending herself, continuing a texting relationship with PK as Dorit and him are separated? If I were to go back into my phone and do the text game that they did on Salt Lake City, what everyone would find would be a search history consisting of Kyle's lips. And you might not really realize how fruitful that is.

Just pop into Twitter and put in Kyle's lips and it's many, many, many, many, many tweets. And like the people on Twitter, I found it hard to concentrate on the show because all I could see were her lips. And- What is it about? Well, I know she got new teeth, and I think her smile really has changed, but I think that's more about the teeth than lip filler.

I think it's the teeth and the lips. I don't know, Julie, you- I mean- Julie can do it. I can't. She's trying her best. She can't even speak. It's so puffed out and blown up.

She can't, she doesn't have a control of like letters like it's like she's like yeah Yeah, like it's like I'm not touching pee pee. Hey It's You can't even say pk you can't say because it's like Like that is car like like it's too much done with this to read I'm not doing this anymore She can't even say PK. She can't say PK. It's just like, I just stopped texting PK. PK! Yeah, you're right. It's kinda like that. It's kinda like, I'm done with this, Doreen. I'm not doing this anymore. Yeah, like, it's too much.

Why don't you stop yelling at me with your vain popping out of your head and tell me why? Why? Yeah, what do you want from me? What more do you want from me? What? What more do you want from me? You need do you want from me? You need to, they need to, you need to, it's too much, maybe it's a phase,

they're gonna go down or whatever, but whatever she's doing, it's, it's, well it's not gonna go down, because they go to have a lovely massage that's coming this week. They're having a massage day, I think, at Bo's house. And that's why everybody's like They're having a massage day, I think, at Bo's house. And that's why everybody's so stressed. It's, yeah, right.

But I think Bo's hired these guys that came and did my party. I don't think you guys came to that party. It was a while ago. But I had- You had some massagers there? I had these three gorgeous black men come and massage us.

And they market themselves like that That's great. And it was amazing and they came to our house and from what I saw on the clip I think I think she stole my idea and I think she found as they do But just watching the clip made me want to get a massage But yeah, but they she leaves in a tense moment in the trailer I like the bows Sutton, I mean, Beaux De Riet friendship because I'm really enjoying Beaux just in general. And thank God De Riet's got someone

because she would be on an island if not. I think she also has Erika Jayne. I think Erika Jayne has really emerged as like a cool ass chick who like is really kind of the audience, like logically, you know? And it's kind of the audience like logically. Yeah. You know, and it's kind of like, you know, thanks for not being there for me a couple years ago, but I'll still be here.

You know, so they're like, she's like, yeah, when she did the therapy session and then the therapist is like, then you didn't have a, you know, a pizza party or whatever. She, you know, she goes, no, I didn't. She's like, no, I didn't have a pizza party or a slumber party or anything. I had no party at all. Just a pizza party or whatever. She goes, no, she's like, no, I didn't have a pizza party or a slumber party or anything. I had no party at all, just a pity party. So then they take her to Chuck E. Cheese, I think in West Hills.

And I have to say that was a really boring scene. Boring. I almost fell asleep before they made her read the text. And then when she read the text, again, it looked like it was a screen grab in which she had removed something prior. And she says to PK, I'm here for you, I'm your friend. Something positive about Dorit too, but she said,

just so you know, I will never share anything that we talked about. Here's what I noticed on that tech by the way. And that's when all their eyes- None of them were into her. There's no doubt as Dorit, she knows, you guys talk shit about me. You talked about me at Nausim, who knows how much.

It could have been out of good. It could have been originally PK being like, Kyle, I'm really struggling with Dorit, do you have any advice? It could have been in confidence for giving advice to let them stay together. But but still once you do that for a Couple times and they're and they're they're not getting along then you got to say as the friend of the girl Hey, I can't talk to you anymore

Like how did she not realize that they've been separated for six months, and she's still doing this Exactly yeah, no, it's not good when your friends well I was gonna say is though, I saw on the phone, whatever she deleted or whatever, so the phone, you see the blue so that she read the whole thing of like, and I won't tell anyone, right above it is him, I believe it's him, with a laughing face and a four leaf clover.

So he's- And then hers was at the very bottom. So I was like, we know it's a screenshot like you said But I was just like well. What did he say back? I would love to see what his response was right she said I've never shared anything I never told anyone anything you shared with me, and I never would and it's like he's obviously told her stuff that even probably DeRite doesn't know yeah, which is also why she was like let's stay friends and well It's just so creepy when you think that that just so under she tells him things that she doesn't want out there.

Like, you know. I mean, it's so creepy when it happens with friends, when you realize there's been a betrayal or with an employee or whatever, and you realize, how long were you talking shit about me as I walked around not realizing? But to think that it's your husband and someone you consider one of your best girlfriends,

who you have a famous job with. And it's like, it's a lot. Like give Doreen all the grace and like love she deserves in this, you had your season last year with your fake lesbian relationship. What happened when Garcelle goes, be a lesbian or not? What was that reaction?

I just feel like she just kind of giggled. the nasty pizza and just laughed. Yeah, they all just laughed Nobody really got into it. Then even in this in the interviews. They were just like uh, uh They were all acted speechless Now I'm gonna go on record. Here we go. I Don't think they ever were lesbians. This is shocking together. I don't think they were ever lesbian Yeah, I don't think they ever were lesbians. This is shocking. Together. I don't think they were ever. Because no one is a lesbian. Yeah, I don't think they were ever lesbians together. However, she did have a husband. She referenced him on a radio.

Morgan Wade had a husband. She had a husband who was in her band. There is a video of her probably five years ago. She still had a shit ton of tats, so it wasn't 10 years ago. Oh, so she's not actually a lesbian? Well, I don't know that she's ever come out. Oh my god, now this is some scoop. Now this is juice. There is a video of her on a small morning show, local morning show, and she's like, so I got, that's my husband Billy on, you know,

guitar and whatever. Oh, gross. I am today years old. There we go. Okay, I mean, hold on, you know, okay guys, guess what? What? I have a husband too. Yeah. I've been keeping him secret. I didn't want anyone to know. I mean, I'm... She, listen.

All right. I don't know of any other girl that may, has Morgan ever said, this is my girlfriend, has Morgan ever said I'm gay? I think she could be gay, but I don't know. And now I feel, now that we also know that she brought Kesha to the Viper Room and Kesha said, Oh, I met Kyle because Kyle's came in my Dandie. Kyle just wants friends. Exactly. Kyle just wants famous girlfriends that are younger than her that

are kind of cool. And she's like, Hey, I like your work. Why not hang out? I'm famous. Don't you want to hang out with me? And then I think that actually Morgan and her did become friends and maybe she was enamored with her. Maybe they diddle the do on a night or two. But now I'm going on record to say, I think that we were fucking duped. I think we might have been duped.

I'm gonna bite you love, Mike. She played herself because Mauricio's off I think we might have been duped. I'm gonna bite you love, Mike. She played herself because Mauricio's off with his girlfriend making out at the airport and is like, I don't need you to buy me any towels. I've got towels. That's why I always will bring up made for TV movie, Betty Broderick killed her husband and his wife and she thought as she dropped off each minor child at his home with his 21 year old girlfriend, oh he won't know how to make a tuna fish

sandwich. He won't know how to get them dressed for soccer. He'll realize what a great situation he had with me as a homemaker. Guess what? He learned how to make the tuna fish sandwiches, the kids all lived with him and then she was left alone and lost her mind. So don't think I'm gonna make him jealous. Let him think I'm a lesbian or he won't know how to light a candle. He does. You know how to light a candle?

He got a concierge place, the staged apartment and is doing just fine. Here's a little advice about the lesbian thing for any women that think that that's going to make any man jealous, it doesn't. So I just want everyone to know that that's the last thing. If you want to make a man jealous, get with another man.

Don't get with a woman, because that's only nothing to them, as it is nothing to everybody. I don't know if her intention was making him jealous or just to feel like I'm on this other journey. I'm like listening to different music. I'm dressing different. I'm working out. I don't drink.

All of it. But I think she also, let's not forget, she is the aunt of Paris Hilton. She was a child star at six. She has been on the show for 15 years. She knows what gets attention. She knows how to call the paparazzi and have them shopping. Do I think they have a real friendship?

Yeah. And then I think Morgan goes, okay, thanks a lot. Now I'm on the bill with Alanis Morissette and doing all these things. I don't want to be known as the housewife's tattooed lesbian. You don't own me. This isn't the audience I want.

Just like when Matt Rife was like, I don't want a bunch of hot girls. I want guys that also think I'm funny. There are people we know that say, I don't like this audience I have. I'd like to move away. They may never get that back. I want every single one of my audience members.

I don't care who you are, what you look like, where you're from, if you think it's funny, great. But I think, so that's why she's like we can't mention Morgan Yeah, because she wants to distance herself from this because she feels serious about her music which her music is good So okay Morgan at the okay well at the same time then Morgan should have made a music video with her She should not have also come and sang at the event No, she should have been there. She's like, I don't know, Kyle just doodled a cow on my pelvis.

I didn't think anything of it. I'd never even heard of TV before. I came here and I was like, Beverly Hills, what's that? What's a real housewife? You mean you're really a housewife? I had never heard of Bravo Andy, who is that? And then, yeah, no, she got everything she wanted out of it. Yeah. And it's just like, going forward, like I want to separate myself from this weird. She probably got all the weird fans that we all get the strange weird weird that wrote her and she's like, Oh, fuck the baby reindeers. I mean. Girls, what have you got going on?

This is an exciting day for your podcast. You've got a lot to do. Oh my God. Well, a lot to do. That's a lot going on. Yes. Well, first of all, for this week, we do have someone did basically. So our podcast, M gay podcast is basically like a liberal leaning comedy

political podcast but this week upon the inauguration we had somebody do the astrological charts for All of the main people involved so we do have a fun. So we did have a very fun conversation We're gonna try and keep it light We're gonna try and keep it fun if you want the news, but you don't wanna go too deep, but you do have the sensibility. But last week we talked to the organization who did the incarcerated firefighters, which was really cool.

Oh, that's really cool. Yeah, if you guys don't know, incarcerated firefighters came and really helped us along with so many other cities that have come and states and countries, so thank you. And we learned a lot about that and how that works and that organization us along with so many other cities that have come and states and countries So thank you. Yeah, we learned a lot about that and how that works That's so awesome and that was cool. So those are the type of things that we're doing Yeah now and there's a lot of fun to be had I think coming up in the next

Four years we talk about politics like we're talking about reality TV Yeah, and it is liberal, but we have a Patreon where we don't do any politics. You can just go to julianbrandy.com if you're interested in that. We just- And just their fun comedic chemistry and all the funny stuff that they just bounce into and everything.

And then you're gonna come to see us March 1st. Yeah. So book your hotels now, cause that's a busy time. But why not stay at the Agua Caliente? Just stay there. Then you're right there, you're not late. You got the pool, you got the gambling, got the food. All of it. That's a busy time. But why not stay at the Agua Caliente? Just stay there. Then you're right there, you're not late. You got the pool, you got the gambling, you got the food, all of it.

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