Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Brad Pitt Drinking Again, Britney’s Botox Disaster & Perez Hilton’s Cash Plan

Episode Date: August 11, 2026

Brad Pitt is drinking again after seven years of sobriety. What does this mean for his family dynamics and love life? Plus, Jon Hamm is officially expecting his first child, Perez Hilton may have a ne...w plan to monetize while getting mental health treatment, Britney Spears opens up about a total Botox disaster, and Amanda Knox is... doing stand-up comedy? We also get into updates surrounding Nolan Wells as his friends come forward seeking the truth, Ariana Maddix revenge porn lawsuit proceeding after a judge shut down her dismissal, and some shocking new juicy crime updates! Over in Reality TV land, RHUGT OGs is delivering top-tier drama (even if Vicki Gunvalson won't let us forget for a single second that she still sells insurance), RHOC has a promising new face, and The Valley reunion dropped the ultimate shocker: Jax Taylor is now dating his ex Britney's publicist! To wrap it all up, an RHOBH star is officially out, Harry and Meghan’s latest film venture appears to have completely bombed, and Travis Kelce is entering what might be my scariest prediction yet. You do not want to miss this one! -Use code JUICYSCOOP at ⁠jonesroadbeauty.com⁠ to get a Free Gift with your first purchase! #JonesRoadBeauty #ad -Download Cash App Today: ⁠https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/9l268n36 #CashAppPod.   Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. Cash App Visa® Debit Flex Cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC, and The Bancorp Bank, N.A., pursuant to a license from Visa U.S.A. Inc. See terms and conditions for the ⁠Sutton prepaid card⁠, ⁠Sutton debit flex card⁠, and ⁠Bancorp debit flex card⁠.  Savings provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. -Download the Quince app for app-exclusive offers, or go to Quince.com/juicy. Get free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. -Order now at⁠ ⁠⁠drinkwillies.com⁠ and use code JUICY for 20% off of your first order + free shipping on orders over $95, and live like a legend. -If you have an iPhone, head to ladder.fit/JUICYSCOOP and take a quick quiz to find your perfect Ladder plan. Use my link and get a free 7-day trial with NO credit card, and $10 off your first month if you join. Subscribe to my new show Juicy Crimes!: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/juicycrimes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Stand Up Tickets and info: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://heathermcdonald.net/ Subscribe to Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald and get extra juice on Patreon: https://bit.ly/JuicyScoopPod https://www.patreon.com/cw/juicyscoop Watch the Juicy Scoop On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JuicyScoop Shop Juicy Scoop Merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://juicyscoopshop.com/?srsltid=AfmBOopTZFUvAeokrJJ6dQ5wuAW1T3nssO6pHk47u7KymJUBtBgKCvfX⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Me on Social Media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heathermcdonald/ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HeatherMcDonaldOfficial Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Heather McDonald has got the juices scoop. When you're on the road, when you're on the go, Juicy Scoop is the show to know. She talks Hollywood Tales for real life, Mr. Sagan, serial data, and serial sister, you'll be addicted and addicts it fast to the number one tabloid real life podcast. Listen in, listen to us. Woo, woo. Heather McDonald's Juicy Scoot.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Well, Brad Pitt has told Esquire Magazine that after seven years, he's drinking again. And he's just keeping it on a tight leash. Brad Pitt is 62 years old. He is dating a 33-year-old, beautiful girl. And, you know, he had a drinking issue. This is what really started the custody battle and the divorce. everything with Angelina. They were on a private jet. And according to she and some of the children,
Starting point is 00:01:07 he got allegedly physical or angry with my understanding, which was, it was Maddox, who was the oldest son. Since then, every child, I believe every single one, but maybe Knox, has removed Pitt's pit from their last name. They all shared the both last names, Jolie, pit and they all have asked to have the pit removed from their name. So maybe at this point he's like, fuck it, let me have a drink because I was maybe staying sober so that these kids would realize that I felt really sorry and I wanted to get back and good with them. But now I'm 62 and I'd like to have a glass of wine. I really don't think I ever had a problem with alcohol. I heard his alcohol issue was with whiskey. And some people feel it's a particular kind of alcohol.
Starting point is 00:02:00 that they have to swear off for the rest of their life. And it's whiskey with like a big, fancy ice cube. Sometimes that makes you act different than if you're having a glass of rosé. I think they're still fighting over the winery that they own together. He and Angeline, they have a rosé winery that's very famous. That everybody, it's the Miraval rosé that people love. Anyway, this is not the first person that I've known that was sober for a really long time and then feel that they can dip their toe back into having a cocktail here or there or a glass of wine or whatever. And it all stems from AA and Alcoholics Anonymous started, I believe, oh my gosh, so long ago. Maybe there was a movie about it in the 40s, but it may have started earlier.
Starting point is 00:02:54 and it's my understanding that there were two men that kind of came up with this idea that, you know, you give up alcohol forever and you go to these meetings and you support each other and you have the 12 steps. And that's really been like the blueprint of alcoholism, you know, in America forever. But in the last decade or so, people have kind of questioned it and said, well, you know, maybe I don't need to do AA and maybe I don't need to go to traditional rehab. Maybe I should do sober coaching. Maybe I can just curtail it and not give it up completely. And there's little steps and there's coaches that do that. There's a sober coaching or drinking where it's almost like you're trying to lose weight. Like you're not giving up drinking
Starting point is 00:03:42 completely, but you're just having less of it. And I've known people that have been sober for like a decade that have now gone back and started enjoying a glass of wine with their friends and have dinners and con and they haven't fallen off the deep end the way they did 10 years ago. And maybe that worked. Maybe those times that made them stop drinking, it was because it was a rock bottom thing and a combo in their life, a bad marriage, fighting, whatever. And they said, I need to eliminate this out of my life. And because they're a public figure and they want to, you know, be able to order a glass of wine at a restaurant and not have it be a big story. Maybe he felt he had to get ahead of it, and he did. So there he is. He's drinking again. He's wearing the female
Starting point is 00:04:28 stand-up comedy uniform in this outfit, so maybe he'll start doing stand-up as well. I don't know. Why not? Everyone just, you know, can identify the way they choose. He was a dick to Jennifer Aniston. Remember that? Where she's like, I think he's missing a sensitivity chip and cheated on her with, I mean, I'll never forget, like, when he got with Angelina Jolie. And then we know that they were trying to have children, he and Jen Amiston, and they were not successful in doing that. And then he does like a photo shoot where he and Angelina have like four little blonde-headed boys from, and they did like a 1960s photo shoot and they looked all like cute and happy.
Starting point is 00:05:11 I mean, you could have held back a little bit on things like that. So they get married. They have some, you know, adopted kids as well as biological kids. And then they get divorced. And now none of his kids want anything to do with him, except maybe I'm thinking the boy twin. I think might still have Pitt in his name. I don't know. But it's okay because he's 62 and he can start a whole brand new family with his 33-year-old
Starting point is 00:05:39 girlfriend if he wants while having a glass of wine doing it. John Han, who's 55, is expecting his first baby with his wife, and they are married. She is 38, and that's a great age to have your first child. 55 is a little old, but, you know, that's what you can do when you're a man, because your sperm, there is such a thing as old sperm, but 55-year-old sperm usually can do the job. And I always think about his long-term girlfriend. they were partners for like 18 years. They never got married.
Starting point is 00:06:13 They never had kids. And it was always like, no, we don't want to have kids. And no, we don't want to get married. And then she's probably fine and realized he was a huge dick. And he does have a huge dick because there's a lot of photos of his dick like just, you know, winking at people and waving itself down the streets of Manhattan in like sweatpants pants where people got photos and they're like, what the hell is that? Anyway.
Starting point is 00:06:37 So I think she's fine doing her thing. and he's off having a child. Now, this isn't that big of an age difference, 17 years. That is a doable thing. But Brad Pitt and the 33-year-old girl, even though he's had a great facelift and everything, here's the thing. You know, there's only so many peptides you can take
Starting point is 00:06:59 before you start walking like an old fucking fart. And I was out in Montecito this past weekend. And I was just sitting like people watching. And I saw like this like much older guy, just like scruffling along. But he looked rich. And I was like, what if that was my husband? Like, what if when I was 30? I just started dating like a 55 year old and we got married. Now that guy would be 80. And that's kind of a bummer. So this is what you have to tell yourself, girls, when you're thinking about dating someone older. It's fine when you're 30 and 50. It's fine when you're 40 and 60. It's not fine when you're 50 and like 75, 80.
Starting point is 00:07:44 That's where you're like, because you're still young and cute. Look at me. And that would not be so fun. So think about that. There's a whole new show called Age Inappropriate out right now that's like why it's not such a great idea to be dating someone so much older. Okay, let's talk about the latest on Perez Hilton. A little follow up on this.
Starting point is 00:08:05 we're getting the updates from Perezhilton.com. His team, you know, he seems to be doing better. He is going to require surgery. He is in a hospital. He's going to, you know, he's getting mental health, help, but he also needs physical help in that they said he's going to have to have some surgery for the self-harm that he did on the live TikTok when he was all bloody and cutting himself. Now, he has asked for privacy and all of that. But really the kind of privacy is asking for is not the fact that I'm talking about it. Because quite honestly, I think he does want to still talking about him. He needs that. He needs people to go to the website for the updates. If you go to it, it still has a bunch of ads. And he needs to keep that going. I do believe he is in a financial trouble situation.
Starting point is 00:09:03 taking care of these three kids. They moved from Vegas to Florida. And at the time of his breakdown, a lot of people were confused whether his kids were there. They're like 13 to like eight are the ages, the three of them. And his sister and the sister's child were there, his niece. And I guess she removed all the kids from the house. But I don't know if she's the one who called the police to get him the help he needed. or was it really just viewers calling the police knowing that he lived in that part of Florida?
Starting point is 00:09:38 The house does not look like anything fancy from what I've seen. Now, we know this because he's saying, please stop coming to the house. That's what he's asked. He's asked the media to not show up at the house where his minor children live. So I'm not flying to Florida, but I am discussing what this is because there's been a lot of discussion and a lot of people rediscovering what his career was like 20 plus years ago. And it was really cruel, snarky. He would out people that were not ready to come out as gay.
Starting point is 00:10:14 He would draw dicks on people's faces and cocaine lines and reveal stuff about people that, you know, were given to him in confidence or whatever. He would share photos that were not meant to be shared. And people thought he was a pretty awful person. He had a pretty awful reputation. But I do think he has grown and he has recognized that as a parent that that is not the kind of way he really does is reporting anymore. I do think it's smart that this is the only place I'm giving my update, my statement,
Starting point is 00:10:50 is the Perezhilton.com because he does still need to get revenue from this. Now, some people think, was this planned out? was he hoping to actually make money off of this horrible situation? I do not think so. I truly think mentally he had a complete psychotic break delusions, whatever. And if you look at his life, the trajectory of his life, it just kind of makes sense that it would have happened on TikTok. So we do hope he gets better for the sake of his family and his business. And we will see. Some people feel that he should not be able to come back in this light. But the thing is, it's not like he's coming back to his TV show at ABC.
Starting point is 00:11:36 It's the internet. So he can keep his website. He can keep his Instagram account and he can come back. And maybe his story will be really compelling. And it will be financially fruitful for him. If you really like comes and tells us what happened, I don't know. That would be interesting. maybe he will do a documentary on his life.
Starting point is 00:11:57 I don't know how much interest there is really in that. In following him, I don't know. Will he get his real estate license next? Would you buy a house from Perez Hilton? That seems to be kind of what sometimes people have to do when they can't be famous anymore. So we'll see. Brittany Spears was trolling me again
Starting point is 00:12:17 because she was wearing her brown sensible pumps, dancing around. She also did a video. And she was like, well, guys, look at my eye. Look at it. It's like this. It's like, I got bad Botox. And I don't know what happened, but I'm just warning you all that when you get Botox,
Starting point is 00:12:33 you need to talk to somebody and make sure that they are doing it right. Because you only have one face and it's your body and you should make sure that the Botox works. Because look at my eye, look at my eye. I don't know why it looks like that. So I just wanted to warn everybody about it. Okay. Bye.
Starting point is 00:12:48 So listen, you know, and a lot of people bring up how awful Perez was to Brittany, and now Brittany is doing PSAs about bad Botox, and she didn't name names, but that would have, you know, she's trying to help a fellow sister out that has crow's feet. So, you know, she's doing just fine in life. Amanda Knox, you're like, why is that name familiar? Amanda Knox is the woman who was accused of brutally murdering her roommate when she was a foreign exchange student from America in Italy. Yes, this is a story. There's been numerous documentaries on it. We've covered it here and on juicy crimes. And it's like everybody's worst nightmare is being accused of a crime, especially a murder that you did not commit, having it be the biggest media
Starting point is 00:13:42 story internationally and also being confined behind bars for years and not understanding the language, is all that happened to Amanda Knox. In the end, she was released and they believe they have the person, the rightful person, through DNA, and it was this random guy. And it was not her or her boyfriend at the time who also suffered and had every article written about them, murder, like, you know, that they didn't care of that the roommate was dead and everything. So she has gone on to write a book, do documentaries, do a million interviews. She is married. She has, she's a mother.
Starting point is 00:14:28 And now she's a stand-up comedian. Like I said, everyone either becomes a stand-up comedian or a realtor. Everyone just copies my careers. Anyway, she is doing stand-up. And the family of the poor roommate who was murdered is are furious about it. They were like, this is terrible. How dare she make fun? fun of this at all. And I am totally on Amanda's side. You know, my God, this is her life. She lived
Starting point is 00:15:03 the biggest nightmare hell ever. She is also a mom, which lends itself to a lot of comedic takes. And maybe this is something that she's always wanted to do and tell her story. And yeah, I'm sure there's some bits that are like, oh, you think you're having a bad day? Try waking up to your murdered roommate and everybody thinks that you did it and then cut to five years later. They still think you did it. I don't know what the jokes are. So I mean, but I'm sure she's polished it and worked on it and maybe had some other people
Starting point is 00:15:37 kind of help her write it. And she's out there. And I don't think she's going to continue on. just like all the other real housewives, Bethany Frankl types, Slade Smiley, all these people that have done stand-up that were famous, and then they're like, they're doing stand-up. They never really continue with it for years.
Starting point is 00:15:58 They never are like doing a solid weekend at some club five years from now where they're doing four shows. No, this is, I think, at the Edinburgh Festival, fringe website thing, where it's kind of more like one person shows and things like that. And I would have hired her too to be in this festival because it's getting a lot of press
Starting point is 00:16:23 and then there's a lot of other people that perform. So I'm sure it is really hard for her roommate who passed away. I'm sure it's very hard for their family because in the end, their loved one is gone. But it's been proven it wasn't her fault. And if they didn't, didn't like the way she behaved throughout the process. Too bad. So very exciting news starting this
Starting point is 00:16:50 October, I will be going back on the road coming to your city and performing for you. And the first couple cities are San Francisco, October 2 and 3. I will be at Cobbs doing four shows. And then the following weekend, I'm at Desert Ridge Improv, a beautiful new club in Phoenix. So excited to be there. Everything is at Heather MacDonald.net. more dates will be added, but you want to get your tickets now. Get those great seats, the VIP experience. I'll see you soon. Your summer travels deserve an upgrade. With select Chevrolet, Buick, GMC, and Cadillac vehicles connected by OnStar, you can stream, game, and more on the go. Whether you're headed to a music festival or a cottage getaway, you can access hundreds of apps
Starting point is 00:17:37 on Google Play right from your center display. Explore OnStar Tech today at OnStar.ca and discover to take your summer to the next level. OnStar. Better never stops. Okay. Nolan Wells, it is still being talked about, though not as much. Because there really are no real suspects still. And Nolan Wells, his friends are now overcome with emotion. They visited where the body is discovered. They have, there's been some people that have collected money for a go-fund-me, for their, you know, if they need any legal defense, though no one has been arrested. And again, some people just believe it is what the initial thought was. An accidental drowning that happened, whether he was, you know, drunk and tried to swim
Starting point is 00:18:34 or just was overtaken by being in big open waters and he wasn't able to get back to shore. We still don't know, but it seems like all the chatter about it and that this was like a racially motivated murder by his white friends on Fourth of July seems to kind of be falling apart. And people are kind of like, maybe they didn't do it. And they said they never want to go to Horn Island ever again. Well, I can imagine. Okay, let's get into the Ultimate Girls trip, 20-year real housewives celebration. I just started watching it. The episode, first episode dropped.
Starting point is 00:19:19 And you know what? It is a good time. You know, some of these Real Housewives franchises and latest seasons are a little dull. And when you see these familiar faces of people that you've like, you know, we all know them well. So I think they did a great casting. and then they go to different cities and different parties so we get to see all these housewives. And it's still pretty juicy. So it starts off with Vicki. So she's the one who started it all.
Starting point is 00:19:48 She's there. And she brings all the girls together in Newport Beach and she has a gift bag. And it's kind of insurance. That's right, everybody. You know I work, work, work. I sell insurance. So here is a clipboard. If you need insurance, I can get you insurance. So fill it out and I will sign you up. And I've done this before. Like, isn't that much of a flex that you're still working and trying to sell individual insurance policies at this point? Like, I don't, who cares that you work work? Who cares?
Starting point is 00:20:19 That's why a lot of women today are flexing like, I don't have to work, bitch. Like, my husband does well. I put on these, you know, Fabelletics outfits. And I walk my ass around and I don't have to collect a paycheck. I don't have to solicit my friends to sell them life insurance. Anyway, so she's there. We got Portia, who's just like a good time, out lesbian. And she said, I don't wear long nails anymore. And they're like, yeah, we know why. Because you got to have some short nails if you're going to, you know, finger your lover. I remember when Kyle suddenly had short
Starting point is 00:20:55 nails too? That was the first clue. Anyway, good for them. Now I have people are going to go, no, Heather, actually, fake nails are really bad for you. And I'm sick of seeing your pink nails every day. And a lot of people are going natural and it doesn't mean they're gay. All right, fine. Let me have some fun watching this fucking show. So Kyle comes up with a cute thing, aka the producers. And a family van shows up to remind us that that was one of Vicki's key moments where she goes, Who sends a family van to take nine people to the airport?
Starting point is 00:21:27 We're going to Mexico. So she, uh, let me go, ha ha, we're actually getting in a regular car. And it's, it's obviously so fake because they're like totally. mean to the guy who brings the van. Like if that was really just like a guy who is an Uber driver and this is his van and he shows up and is like, hey lady's getting the van. They're like, oh my God, it smells. It's gross. We don't really have to sit in this van like awful. Okay. So then there's Luand and she's always a good time. You know, I'm the countess. I look even better now. So she is there. She's fun. And we have Lisa Barlow.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Yes, it's Lisa. Baby gorgeous. And she's coming off very nice. And we have Teresa. And they get on this boat. And Teresa, they start to ask the questions that'll get the conversation going that happens with these ultimate girl trips where they have people from different cities. Come on.
Starting point is 00:22:24 And they said something like the Esther, you know, about filming or I don't know. But she gets right into, well, you know, No, I went away, meaning I went to prison. And that was because my husband told me to like sign some real estate papers. The next thing I knew I was in prison. And then I saw another interview that was pretty interesting. She said, because I was famous, I thought, well, let's see this through. Because I'm a reality star, let's see this through.
Starting point is 00:22:54 And she went through the court process. It kind of sounds like I think if she, going back, she's like, I should have done you know, kind of cop to what we did wrong right away, took a plea deal or whatever, and I wouldn't have ever had to go to prison. She basically said when she went to court and fought it, she never knew the result would be her actually doing a year in prison. So I thought that was kind of new information. Nobody brought up her current tax situation, which I don't know if that's been cleared up. She got very mad at me when I brought it up. up on Juicy Scoop six months or so ago. And that was where there was an article written that
Starting point is 00:23:38 she and Louis owed like $3 million in unpaid taxes. They probably have fixed it by now. And maybe that's why they didn't bring it up. But while she is talking about her ex-husband, how he made her sign these papers and everything and, you know, she just didn't know what she's doing and she signed them and he never paid taxes. And next thing she knew, she was in prison. And she was like never, ever thought that would happen. well, many people that have studied the case knows there's a lot of other steps and things that happen from a bankruptcy to violating that bankruptcy and all these other things that I've heard over the years. But it's still a juicy-ass story. And annoying Vicky goes,
Starting point is 00:24:22 and does that thing like, I'm falling asleep. She's like, I don't want to hear about this. I always pay my taxes. I'm never late. I always pay my taxes on time and you need to know how to pay your taxes. And Portia's like, what the fuck. Like she's being vulnerable. She's finally giving us some juicy scoop, stuff that we really haven't heard. She's being really honest about it, Teresa. And you just like ruined the moment to then talk about yourself in a superior way because you're the man and you always pay for everything and you do everything and you work in insurance and we're so sick of it. We know. We're so sick of hearing about your stupid ass boring ass job. Like nobody cares. So they get off the boat and now they're going to
Starting point is 00:25:01 go to the quiet woman for an 80s party, which poor Vicky, between this outfit and the old lady outfit that she wore in real housewives of Orange County, I mean, it's not attractive, okay? She does not look good with these weird fucking ugly wigs. So she gets there and she stands upon the state and she's like, well, many years ago I started this franchise, and Slade Smiley got up on stage and said that I looked like a Muppet, Miss Piggy. And because of that, I had to get a whole new face. And Lisa Barr was like, oh my God, Vicki, your face does not need to be changed. And she's like, no, I already changed it.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Oh, all right. And it's all because of Slade Smiley, what he said, you know, 17 years. years ago. And he really was the first real house wife slash house husband to try to be a stand-up before Amanda Knox, before Joe Judice, before Reza, before Bethany Frankel. I think there were some, there were some Banner Pump ones too, because I remember I like was part of their improv show. Anyway, they showed the improv. So they like to have their fame, photos and then they like burn them and and they're doing a lot of flashbacks of other housewives that are not invited to any of these parties. They're not getting a paycheck. They're not even
Starting point is 00:26:38 getting a free past app. And I'm like, oh, this is where it really sucks that this is not a union job. Like at least you could go, okay, they showed my face for a minute. I can expect like a $412 check. No, you're not getting anything. So that was brought up. And then, Tamara shows up in roller skates, her body's banging, her 80s outfit looks good. And she sits down with Shannon Bador. And she says, um, Shannon Badoar goes, I don't know. I don't know Tamara. I don't trust you. Last time we were filming, you called me a cunt 18 times at dinner. Okay. I don't know what you want for me. And Tamara was like, yeah, I'm good. Okay. I'm good. You're not. She's like, what, I'm good. I have a husband. I have kids in college. And she gets up. And she goes, yeah,
Starting point is 00:27:36 walk away. Shannon, walk away. And she was, I'm walking away, Tamara, because I don't want to have this conversation with you anymore. And Tamara goes, yeah. First, I thought she was doing like a, like a blowjob face, but she was like doing a like throw some more drinks back. And she goes, oh, really, Tamara, you said you were, we were never going to see you drunk again. Five hours. hours later, you couldn't put a sentence together. And she's like, that's because my friend was in the hospital. Okay, whatever about the teddy illness. Like, we understand that was hard on you, but no one takes your thing. But you know what? It made, the producers like Tamara because she fucking brings it. And that was pretty juicy. Pretty mean, pretty awful, but pretty juicy. And they play
Starting point is 00:28:25 Bunko and Heather DeBro brings her cake. Who broke the bow on my cake? So that was a pretty fun moment. So it's just like fun like that with little spits of drama. But you see all these icons and they are iconic. They know how to bring it. And so it's Lisa Barlow. Oh, so then, yeah, like Heather Burrough's not a regular on it, but she like came to the party.
Starting point is 00:28:49 So you're going to see me in the background coming up at the Kyle White party where some good juice gets dropped from Whitney and. Ronwin talking to Giselle. And I'm just sitting there just listening, just like a stupid fucking person that's eavesdropping. And so there you go. It's a pretty good show, pretty good time. Okay. Then we have Real Housewives of O.C., which is, it's very slow. It is just a lot of friendship talk. It's not interesting. And you're like, you're constantly like confused. You're like, wait, why is Heather Matt at Emily? Like, I don't even remember because it's so insignificant. But there's a new girl named Carmela,
Starting point is 00:29:37 who is renting a house for $35,000 in the Newport area because she claims that's where her real estate business is because she has her license at the Oppenheimer Group, which are the tiny twins that also have selling sunset and selling OC, but that show is canceled, okay? But she lives in a big mansion in Santa Fe, San Diego. And that's where her kids live. So clearly, she's spending the $35,000 here so that she can be on the show.
Starting point is 00:30:11 We all get it. If you're a realtor, why wouldn't you specialize in the real estate area of San Diego? It's not like it's Pekoyma, okay? No offense to Pekoyma. It's still a really nice, wealthy area. And that's where you, your kids go to school, where you live. So somehow they found her. she was like, I will move to this area. But she's pretty likable. And I believe that she is actually
Starting point is 00:30:33 knows what she's doing in real estate in, you know, redoing houses. But Vicki's like, my boyfriend. My boyfriend is a real developer. That's where you get a piece of land and you develop a building. What she's doing is, I don't know, answering the phone at the Oppenheimer group. No, she has her license. Okay, well, then she's a house flipper. She's a house flipper. You can't tell me that she's a real business woman. Oh my God, Vicki. Shut the fuck up. And so then she, you know, to ingratiate herself with a group, gives Emily a Dior clutch, which is probably like $25,000 to $3,000. And to be funny, she put a vibrator in it.
Starting point is 00:31:13 And that is the conversation for the next two episodes. Is she a kiss ass? I can't, you know, oh, I'm shocked that she gave me a vibrator. And she's just like, why wouldn't she be happy with a Dior bag? And Gina's like, because Emily's my best friend, okay? Emily's my, what, she's wearing some weird overly shoulder padded like Timu outfit and, you know, trying to get her listings going. It's just, yeah, like, who cares? Who cares about the D.O.
Starting point is 00:31:45 But she should be grateful for that D.O. Clutch because I think it's probably her only one. And I don't know. The previews look like it gets better. where right now, it is pretty dull. It's pretty terrible. And then this guy, Scott Cruz Spirit, he showed up. He was on the show. This is for my, you know, people that really get Bravo history.
Starting point is 00:32:08 He was on the show as a psychic and he had a shaved head. But now in the comments, because he has really good hair now, he had admitted, I think he went to Turkey to get a hair transplant. He still looks really young and cute. And he's a psychic. And he was the one that showed up. And then they asked, what about Vicky's boyfriend? He says he has cancer.
Starting point is 00:32:33 And he's like, I don't see cancer. And then he went through his scene. And he also said that at the time Megan King Edmonds was hoping to have a baby. And he said, you're going to have a girl, which he did. And he goes, and next will be a boy, which she did, but she had boy twins. I don't think like a 50% success rate on a psychic prediction is something to be bragging about like the sex of a baby. Megan King Edmonds, though, is like having a great time being a realtor in New York City.
Starting point is 00:33:07 While her kids actually live, I guess, the majority of their time with the dad and his new wife, Courtney. But hopefully that's what she's doing and she sees them in the summer and is having a nice time. But again, everybody becomes a realtor, a podcaster, or an only fan star, or a stand-up. Okay, let's talk about the Valley. So it's very interesting. First, let's talk about Brittany. She was on Watcher Howells Live to follow up on the Valley Reunion, but as well as the
Starting point is 00:33:43 news about Jack's, her ex-husband to be, who is now in love. with Lori the publicist. And she looked really good on watching Hams Live. Finally, she has a dress that fits her style and her body. It was like a black strapless dress with just a little bit of detail that kind of gave her a good shape around her waist and her hair looked good. And I think that she has lost some weight since the taping of the reunion, but she's also in a much better dress.
Starting point is 00:34:17 and it made me wonder, did Lori this horrible publicist that she had for 10 years? And she says, I paid her a monthly retainer plus 10% of all the deals she got me. Like every time, you know, she would get a sponsorship deal or a Instagram ad or whatever. She would pay her 10%. But then I'm guessing she was probably paying her anywhere between $5,000 to $10,000 month. I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing. And she said, you know, now Lori and Jacks are saying that like we weren't working together,
Starting point is 00:34:56 that we were not close for a year. And she's like, that's just not true. That's not true. She has been here every time with me. Every time I did watch time's live, Lori was here. She was here last April when I was here, Andy. Okay. So how is that that we are not close?
Starting point is 00:35:11 And this is what I kind of really, I was thinking about because I was seeing. Some people wrote to me and in the comments saying, I always had a bad, this is just like a viewer, I always had a bad feeling about that Lori chick. How do I know who a PR person is? Like, and that is what she said, that she just seemed, Brittany said, I just felt like Lori was too obsessed with our lives. That was our one fight is when I said, you need, I need to have some boundaries. Like, it does seem a little single, single white female is that she stepped in and is now, with Jack. And when you have a publicist, they set up things. Maybe it goes through them just to make sure. And they say, okay, you're going to be a watcher Thumbs Live. Here's your flight. This is the
Starting point is 00:36:00 person that's going to meet you at the airport. They're going to have a sign. You're staying at this hotel. Your call time to be picked up to go to Watch for a Tom's Lives at 4.30. Now, sometimes, sure, a publicist might be with you during that time. But I hardly think that since she's been on the shows for like 12 years. And she knows Andy, she knows how this works. She really don't need the publicist there for that. I've had publicists over the years. And there's been a time where I hired a publicist and they're like, okay, I'll meet you at KTLA or whatever. And I'm like, you don't have to. No, no, no, I will. That's my job. I'm like, but why? Like, I do new shows all the time. Like, I can drive myself there. I know where to park. Just send me all the info. I don't really want to
Starting point is 00:36:46 pay, I don't want to be billed at the end of the month that you wasted three hours of your life at this thing. So I just think that's shady. Like I think either maybe it didn't cost Britney any money, maybe she just made herself, you know, indispensable and always was the plus one. Because the way I would understand it is if she went and was a guest on Watch for Hems Live at her level, like being a star of the show, she probably had a plus one. And that could get, that she could fly with and that could come with her. And that could have been anybody. That could have been a girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:37:21 That could have been her mom. That could have been, you know, somebody's dating or whatever. And the fact that this woman was just like, like getting on the plane for five hours so that she could be around, they watch her husband's live people. That is unusual for a publicist.
Starting point is 00:37:36 So she was really in all of their lives. Also, I heard that. They were seeing each other longer than what they claim. because, you know, there's just alleged things that Jacks was doing some appearance. She was there because she set it up. But also because I think something was going on. And he allegedly confirmed it to a fan. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:00 So that's fine. I don't think that Brittany wants him. I don't think she's jealous if he dated anybody else. I think she just wants the world to know that this woman who was a professional publicist who has worked with many other companies, brands, and talent was very deceptive and had lied to her and, you know, knew everything that she was going through. It's very similar in a way to the Scandival, in that Ariana would, you know, open up and disclose a lot about her relationship with Tom Sandoval to her best friend, Rachel Levis. And,
Starting point is 00:38:43 all the while, Rachel was sneaking around and fucking Tom Sandoval. I mean, that is where this is really significant. And I even think it's juicier, really, because this woman had a pretty successful career as a PR person. She's in her 40s. She's a mother. And she's choosing to, she just can't resist this love affair with Jacks Taylor. And I just don't know. many, I mean, I guess men do throw away their careers for like a hot piece of ass, like they start, you know, screwing the secretary or whatever. They certainly will throw away their family, but I don't know that many would throw, would jeopardize their actual business, like their own business that they built themselves, which is what, which is what this Lori woman had. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Like, that part is the most shocking and that you would know all of this. But you know, what? There are so many women that marry prisoners fall in love with prisoners. I just saw an interview of a woman who is like doing an interview with Dr. Phil. Now, this is a clip, so they clipped it. But he's like, now let me ask you something. You're staying married to your husband after you found out that he murdered her woman and dismembered all her limbs. And she's like, yes, Dr. Phil. first of all, it was only her legs. Okay. And I believe in the covenant of marriage.
Starting point is 00:40:18 So I am going to stay with him while he does his 26-year sentence. Some people might think that, you know, that's beautiful. This is a God-fearing woman, whatever. But I'm just saying, women more than men, will get so dick-wipped and be loyal to a fault. or pick somebody that you're like, why? You already know these things. But she might be saying, you know what? He's a changed man and we are in love and all of that.
Starting point is 00:40:50 But he, I just don't want to hear from him today. I really don't. So please don't rage text me. I'm team Brittany. But now she's said her piece and I think the best thing she should do is not give them any more attention. She's the one on the TV show. the ratings are good on the valley.
Starting point is 00:41:12 She's certainly coming back to the valley. It'll be interesting to see who all comes back or if they do any recasting. But so far, it was very interesting on the show. Michelle and Lacey. Lacey is the Michelle's ex-husband. Jesse has his girlfriend Lacey, who really is made for reality TV. She really can hold her own. She is friendly to the other cast members.
Starting point is 00:41:42 And she kind of pointed out to Michelle, you wrote these awful things on a text message to me. And Zach's like, yeah, I saw them. And she's like, no, you didn't. I kind of would have liked to see. Like, that's where I'm like, where are the receipts? Like, who, why can't you just show us them? But maybe Lacey was being classy because they all are a family together because there's children involved.
Starting point is 00:42:06 So that was fine. She mentions dating Dr. Dre. I don't know if she still is because I saw Dr. Dre took someone else to know, but that was not her. Doesn't mean it wasn't a platonic thing. Could have been as publicist. Could have been as publicist. But let me see what else happened in this.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Lala got very emotional because she started to talk about Sheena and how, you know, they're no longer friends. And it's very hard because their daughters were best friends. And it was their graduation. So I reached out to her, I go, did you really have to miss the actual kindergarten graduation? And unfortunately, she did. That was the day of the shooting. They couldn't change it. So I think that's emotional too, but also knowing that the next school, they won't be together. And it's kind of like a weird moment where you're like, maybe you don't miss the friendship, but you're sort of mourning what was. And this is a big milestone for your child and you can't be there. And so it's like, I can see why she, got kind of emotional. I didn't know if she was mentioning it to kind of open the gates to have Sheena come back. I think if she did, Lala would be like, fine. Like, Lala's never going to be like, no, I'm not going to film with you. But I don't know if that will happen. That was very interesting.
Starting point is 00:43:27 And then like, you know, Janet got up and like gave Zach a hug. I think everyone just knows they have to make up. But the really the most disturbing thing was Danny. I, it looks like he got some really bad Botox. Maybe he went to the same person as Britney Spears. I don't know. I need a documentary done on this. He also says that he's like five, eight, but he looked so small on the couch next to his therapist. I mean, his wife, Nia. And I don't know if I think he dyed his hair too dark. I, the little green suit did seem a little leprechaunish. And that part was disturbing. I was like, Is this what he looked like all season? It was very shocking.
Starting point is 00:44:11 So I think that really was distracting. And you could see how she's like coaching him and she's being like, just don't say anything. And then they like catch it like on the extended version on Peacock. They kind of catch it and like do the writing. And, you know, he's just like, oh, okay, what's going on? So it'll be very interesting to see their trajectory of their marriage or whatever. But they, I'm sure they'll. come back. But I predict like another couple will join them. And they'll, it'll like, this is what I
Starting point is 00:44:44 predict. I bet they find another couple that actually knows the group, but that couple is like really fabulous. And maybe one of them or both of them had a real career in entertainment prior to becoming reality stars. And I bet they're like unconventional. Like they either like truly have an open marriage or something. And that's going to like rock the boat with the 2026 Chevrolet Tracks is the stylish SUV for those on the move. And with the standard Chevy safety assist package, you have the backup to handle every turn with confidence. The 2026 tracks, start your build at Chevrolet.ca. Danny and Nia. Okay, speaking of real housewives and Scandival. So, Ariana Maddox was trying to get the Rachel Levin's.
Starting point is 00:45:35 revenge porn lawsuit dropped. And I really thought it would. And I guess her argument was, you know, she has always said, I never shared this with other people. I never posted it on a website. I never put it on an Instagram. And just to remind you guys,
Starting point is 00:45:55 my understanding is she was watching Tom Sanival, her boyfriend perform, somehow someone handed the phone to her, and something like compelled her to just go to his photos. And when she clicked on his photos, she saw video instills of Rachel, her best friend in a in a naked air, whatever, pornographic, I guess, thing. And that's when she's like, fuck you. I know that you're seeing her.
Starting point is 00:46:25 What is going on and all of it. Rachel claims that she forwarded that or, you know, shared it. with people. She claims that she never did. And that is the lawsuit. And we as someone that knows this world, know these people personally, I have never ever seen anything. I don't know anybody that's ever seen it. So I thought for sure by now this would be dropped. And I'm actually really kind of surprised that Rachel is still pursuing it because it sounds like she's all peace and love doing your sound bath, dating some other guy. She doesn't have a podcast anymore. She just have an Instagram.
Starting point is 00:47:05 So maybe she's just hoping that they settle out of court and she gets like a couple hundred thousand dollars. I don't know. But the judge said, no, the case is going to continue on and to the next step. So he did not allow it to be thrown out, which I was really surprised by. Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, Amanda Francis, the money queen. She is not coming back. And it sounds like it very much could be her decision.
Starting point is 00:47:35 We never really know with housewives. They always kind of act like, well, you know, we've come to an agreement or whatever. And you never say never. And I might come back. That's not what she said. She basically said, I have a really full life. My children are little. And I want to be present for them and everything I have going on in my life.
Starting point is 00:47:56 And fighting with women that don't really like me very. much is not what I want to do, or maybe that's what she thought in her head. I was thought that she would come back, but I do kind of, whether this was her decision or a mutual one, which I still think it could be a mutual. I don't know where else we would go with her. She didn't really click with anybody. And because she's much younger, because her kids are much younger, and most of the women are in their, you know, Sutton, Erica, Kyle, Bose. Who else is there? Jennifer Tilly, they're all like 50-ish.
Starting point is 00:48:38 And she was not even 40, I don't think. And they just didn't really mesh. And it seemed like she came on, she did, she accomplished what she needed to accomplish. I had never heard of her before. most nobody had and now a lot of people know about her business which is manifesting money they buy her courses she has a new book coming out um what is it it's like godly as fuck or something which i'm like god people think i mocked god because i made a little joke that he loves me the most on stage i'm like that's her book cover i hope the same creeps that write mean things to me are going on to her no i
Starting point is 00:49:20 don't hope that on anybody that's not being a christian i don't hope that. But, um, so I kind of think it's good. I think that she, and maybe she didn't want to stay on TV anymore and have people pick a part of business because right now it probably does just fine. She has a lot of subscribers. She, her Instagram is just her being like, let me tell you something, baby, you deserve all the money in the world. God wants you to be rich. You're going to imagine the money coming in. You're going to say you deserve it. And you're going to, going to get it and you're going to receive it. Have a beautiful day. And there's no harm in that. Like there's no harm in it. And she's not like selling, you know, some faulty product or vitamin that
Starting point is 00:50:08 like make you sick or something. So it's just like, hey, if you don't want to, if you don't want to follow her lead and manifest money coming through the door, then don't and goodbye. So I, um, I think it's fine. Like I'm fine with her leaving. I just think, Nobody really cared. This happened last week, and I practically missed the story. So I have not, and I follow a lot of accounts that would be caring about this. And I think whether this was her decision or was mutual, which now I think it was mutual, I think they realized this was a good move because people don't care. And hopefully she won't be like other housewives that then do a podcast about housewives and then constantly say that they were fucked over every minute and that,
Starting point is 00:50:51 you know, justice for this person. Because you know what? People don't care. There have been over 200 Housewives. No one is like, where's Quinn from season two of OC? Nobody cares. And nobody's going to be asking about Amanda. Just like they're not asking about that other one. Eden? Who is that? There was Eden Sassoon. Two is like a one hit wonder people don't ask about. Um, there was the other, the rich one that, that rich one that had like two little babies and she had that whole thing happen where people thought she was like trafficking people, but really, she just had a book about models that you could order in a hotel room. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:35 What that was, I can't even think of her name. But the thing is, look, I spend so much time talking about this shit. And if I can't remember your name, no one will. remember. So I think she'll just be able to stay in her little niche and make her money, manifesting money for other people. Okay, Jellyroll and Bunny X-L, their divorce happened. And it's very interesting because this guy, the pre-nup guy, kind of talked about it. And they still didn't address what they're going to do with these embryos. It sounds like they do. They do. They do. have made, they made embryos. It sounds like these embryos have not gone in any woman to become a child.
Starting point is 00:52:26 And he said, most times in a divorce where there's embryos, they address that in the divorce, that someone gets it or they destroy them or whatever. And they just didn't address it at all, allegedly. They didn't address it at all, which I just think it's like the biggest mistake. Why are you doing this? I think that they are agreeing to just keep this going because I really, I will predict, I don't think there's going to be a jelly roll bunny baby. I just don't. But I don't know why they wouldn't tie it up in a bow, except that it gets us still talking. He is going to take some time off. I think he's going to get some body surgery and get snatched. And she is making out with the guy from Calabasas confidential. And again, nobody cares. They're like, Heather, nobody cares about bunny. Okay, this came to me from pop culture.com
Starting point is 00:53:28 and someone said, Heather, you were right. It's just an article, but I'm afraid one of my scarier predictions might be coming true. And that is Travis Kelsey reportedly wants to follow his fall football with a country music career. He allegedly is actually working, going to start working on an album. I told you that this would happen. I warned Taylor and sometimes I don't ever always want to be right, but get ready for the country album. I just want, I just, I feel like we haven't talked about Taylor, Travis in so long. And I feel like that's something too.
Starting point is 00:54:05 No one cares. No one. whenever she does come out with the wedding stuff, I think people will care less. I don't think the hype will be there. And I think that's where the mistake was. So maybe she never will bring it out. Because when she does, I just don't think it's going to have the splash or the buzz that it would have had if it was like five days after the wedding. Here's the, you know, here's our wedding videos or whatever. But now I'm like, oh, who cares? Who cares if it was a buffet or a sit down? in real housewives of Rhode Island,
Starting point is 00:54:41 Rula, who is married to the podiatrist, who has had a mistress this whole time. Supposedly, an insider, this comes from Reality Blurb, said that Rula said, I will not sign up for season two if you ever surprise me with the mistress coming to a party on camera
Starting point is 00:55:07 in fact, I want to put in my contract that her name cannot be mentioned. And I thought that, if true, was pretty juicy and pretty freaking smart on her side because it is protecting herself. She's going to stay married to this podiatrist. She doesn't want the mistress around and doesn't want her getting any light. But I mean, I guess the producers are like, fine, we'll comply one more season. and then when you get divorced, then maybe we'll replace you with a mistress. I don't know, but I thought that was pretty surprising.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Also, P.K. of Real House says Beverly Hills. Allegedly, he owes $351,000 to his divorce attorney, and that keeps going up every month, and $100K to a friend. This is also from reality blurb, so I don't know of the sources, but it just sounds like a nightmare. And from what I gather, from like Ronald Reynolds or whatever's name, Ron Richards, the attorney that's like obsessed with Housewives news, it seems like the house still has not been sold in Encino. Like what is going on? They're still living there. She's still shopping and they're still fighting. And I don't know when they started when they're going
Starting point is 00:56:28 to start filming, but I do kind of want to know what's going on with them. Well, This was not good news for Princess Megan and Harry. According to page six, Prince Harry and Megan Markle were executive producers of a theatrical feature that's like actually came out in the movie theater called Cookie Queens. It's about Girl Scout cookies. And it really did not do well. It's a documentary.
Starting point is 00:56:59 And it only made $735. per screen. Now, the thing is, it could have been in very, very few screens. I have not heard of it. And I don't know who would go see the documentary about Girl Scout cookies. I guess Girl Scouts would go. But maybe they're like, this is a little dull. I don't know. But once again, I just don't think that she has a great eye for picking projects. I don't think they're great executive producers. They've had a lot of flops. I was in Montecito this weekend. which is like an hour or so from my house. And it is really freaking cute and charming.
Starting point is 00:57:39 And I was walking around. I wore cream and beige and light browns to match the monocito aesthetic. And I was hoping to run into her. I did not. But she really did give, when you watch the show, that is really the vibe. When you're driving around Montecito, you're like, maybe I would be down to go over to Megan's house and spend the night and eat some peanut butter pretzels in cellophane, which by the way is actually kind of a horrible nighttime snap.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Like who is having that at the day? Like it's crumbly. Your mouth is like like you desperately need water. That is so not like a good snack to have at nighttime while you're staying at someone else's house. Okay. There has been this one juicy crime story that I want to talk about. And I don't know if you've heard about it, but good morning America just had some more clues.
Starting point is 00:58:39 This is the disappearance of Elizabeth Waddle in Grenada. And she went on a trip with another woman, her friend, and then disappeared. And they're like seeing surveillance and this one jet skier guy said, yeah, I think I saw her like in the ocean. and I said, you're pretty far out. You're sure you don't want to like hop on the jet ski? And she said, no, I'm a really good swimmer. And then there's like surveillance cameras of her going to swim. But nothing makes sense because there's like a five and a half hour break.
Starting point is 00:59:17 And the husband who has now gotten on a plane and gone to grenade to look for her said, that just doesn't make sense. Like she wouldn't, she's not that strong of a swimmer. She wouldn't be swimming that far out. Like what is going on? Where is she? And I think this woman that she was with has something to do with it. And I think they were maybe in a romantic situation that went awry on this trip.
Starting point is 00:59:45 First, when this came about, I was like, oh, my God, what, you always think it's the husband on a vacation. You know, we talk about the Alpine divorce. You go on a vacation, your husband hates you and he kills you during the vacation while you're climbing up, you know, a road near Alpines. But I was like, wow, why wasn't he with her on this vacation? And this does seem strange. And I almost wondered, like, are we going to find out that, like, he planned this out and found someone in Grenada to, like, hire someone to end his wife's life because he wasn't with her? But no, I think he truly has nothing to do with it. But it's interesting
Starting point is 01:00:28 that we're not hearing more about the friend and what she might have had to do with it. It's very strange. So there's that story. I also wanted to fill you in on the Courtney Cleaning. She pled guilty to manslaughter. Now, this was the story that we talked about. She was an only fans model, making a lot of money doing that. And she was with this boyfriend for a few years. And he was like in Bitcoin. So they were kind of living a flashy life in Miami. And neighbors said they often heard them fight and, you know, cops were called and it was very volatile. It sounds to me that they both thought the other was cheating. There were always a bunch of fights about let me look at your phone and, you know, where were you? And I don't believe that you were really at the gym and
Starting point is 01:01:19 this kind of thing. And she claims that he was physically attacking her and she threw a knife at him and it landed in his neck, in an artery that caused him to die. So she always said it with self-defense, but in exploring it, it seemed like there's no way she could have thrown it and it would have like gone through his skin. Like, it just doesn't physically make sense. She would have had to have stabbed him like with her hand with some pressure. It still could have been self-defense though. And so she has been waiting behind bar. She doesn't look anything like when she had the blonde hair and living the Miami OnlyFound's life.
Starting point is 01:02:05 And she did it, I think, a really smart thing. And she did a plea deal to get six years. Now, she could have gone through trial and she might have prevailed with her self-defense because I think there was a lot of evidence to prove that this was a very tumultuous, maybe violent, you know, a violent relationship, but maybe that domestic violence was on both sides. I don't know where they were both guilty of it. But I think she did the right thing because that was a risk. And if she had lost and if they would have thought it was, you know, manslaughter, then or even planned first degree, she could look at like 30 years. So she is now going to do six years was the
Starting point is 01:02:51 sentence. But with all of like good behavior and time already served, she could get out in two years, which I think was very smart because she can still have a full life, get married, have kids. But many people feel this was like not a fair sentence. And that if because her boyfriend was black and she was white, did she get the white privileged situation? Also, I think being a female, again, if it was the other way around and her, you know, a black man who was big and muscular was accused of stabbing his girlfriend and he said it was self-defense. Well, of course, that would be a much harder thing to believe just because of their sizes. And but of course, that is being discussed a lot as well. And if you're interested in juicy crimes like these, I have a great
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