Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Brandi & Julie on Summer House Finale, Alex Cooper’s Pregnancy Apology & A Deadly Hiking Trip

Episode Date: May 21, 2026

Brandi Howard and Julie Goldman are back in the studio, and we are diving straight into the chaos of the Summer House finale and the highly anticipated premiere of In The City. We also break down the drama surrounding Alex Cooper’s pregnancy announcement. Does she owe a fellow influencer a public apology for how it all went down? Then, we sink our teeth into a truly bizarre murder-for-hire plot involving a pop star, an influencer, and a father-daughter hiking trip that ended in a tragic "accident" and an arrest. Plus, I’ve got the inside scoop on whether Real Housewives of Rhode Island producers are actually trying to cast the ex of a current Housewife’s girlfriend. It is so juicy and so funny, so please enjoy! -Get 20% off your first order, plus free shipping during the Memorial Day Sale at ⁠BollandBranch.com/juicyscoop⁠ with code juicyscoop -Refresh your everyday with luxury you'll actually use. Head to ⁠Quince.com/juicy⁠ for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns.  -Go to ⁠RO.CO/JUICYSCOOP to see if you qualify -Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at ⁠SHOPIFY.COM/juicy⁠ Subscribe to my new show Juicy Crimes!: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/juicycrimes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Stand Up Tickets and info: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://heathermcdonald.net⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald and get extra juice on Patreon: https://bit.ly/JuicyScoopPod ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/cw/juicyscoop Watch the Juicy Scoop On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JuicyScoop Shop Juicy Scoop Merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://juicyscoopshop.com/ Follow Me on Social Media: Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/heathermcdonald TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@HeatherMcDonaldOfficial Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello and welcome to juicy scoop. Well, people have been asking, they've been begging. They do every week. But every week, I can't have these stars because they're such in demand. They have ravaging. Is that the way you say it? Ravaging. Ravaging fans.

It's really the ravaging alcohol problem. From their amazing, they are the stars of stage, podcasting, film, TV, and the couch. It is the hilarious, Julie Goldman, the hilarious and sarcastic fashionista, Brandy Howard. Welcome back, girls, to Juicy Scoop. Stars of Dumb, Gay, podcast, a hit with the fans and the critics. How are you?

It's funny that you mentioned stage and screen, because we did recently a charity event. for, I don't know if you know that there's like, they created this room with all of the Epstein files. Yes, I saw that. And I'm like, this is a museum. Yeah. It's in New York, right?

Yes. It's in New York. I'm like, what kind of pop up is this? It's crazy. So wait, you can really go in and actually take out like a book that says the file number. And in it is like the photo with like the black across someone's eyes. And there's the comfy chairs.

You sit. It's a wonderful. environment and then you read through horrifying documents. It's a reading room. They're calling it a reading room. And how long, it's in New York City, right? Yeah. How long is it there? That I don't know. That we don't know, but we did a charity that was a 24-hour filibuster style reading of the files. So we being, you know, the wonderful in-demand podcasters that we are, we're given the 3 a.m. slot. But I think a lot of people are up at 3 a.m. unfortunately.

I think so. Well, 197. people. And you know, they were clamoring. They were ravaging. They were ravaging. They were ravaging and they were clamoring. So, we read through. So, wait, we go down. How do you choose what you get? Or they gave it to you. We gave it.

We're kind of like pre-reading it. This is like the vagina monologues. Remember those? Yes, yes. We're pre-reading it. It's 2 a.m. 3 a.m. But no, it's 2 a.m. when we're pre-reading it. Oh, right. And we're just checking in. How's the stream going? And I'm like, we are so weird.

like it's a deposition. We don't know who it's with. We don't know who's being deposed. And it's all, a lot of it is rejected. And so we go and we sit down. We have this like area where we shoot like this with our drug dead bulletin board behind us of all like, like all of like pictures of listeners were behind us. Okay. As we're reading through the files.

And we just decided it was this much files. It was like two inches thick. It was 33 pages. And we just decided, I was like, okay, I'll be the lawyer and you be the person being deposed. The perv. And we basically just did, we did 45 minutes of solid acting. By the end, Julie and I were, we were interrupting each other. I was, we were improvving.

We're improvving through the deposition. Like that's like, maybe you want another red ball. And I was like, good one. Anyway, like it was. So you were, were you a rich, rich man? No, we figured it out. Who were you? I was Alex Acosta.

Which, who was that again? He was the Florida, like, he was like the Florida District Attorney? Yeah, who basically was the one that gave him the sweetheart deal. Oh, the sweetheart deal. That's when Epstein went and had the weekends, the weekend prison, then got out of prison and then had the dinner party. Right. With Katie Couric and Chelsea and who else? Oh, and Woody Allen and okay.

So it was basically he was being deposed. You know, not everybody knew what dinner they're going to. Of course. Katie Kirk happily said she saw, you know, 14-year-olds walking around like with trays of champagne. She just thought that was normal. Yeah, yeah. That's strange. Are you in sixth grade?

Neat. Can you go get the Voove? However, I will say, my parents had a Christmas party for all the realtors in the valley. When we built our, with their lucrative real estate money, we built an addition with a step-down playroom. area family room with a wet bar. And my sister was the bartender at 15 for all the realtors. Luckily, my dad was not a pedophile.

But yeah, but that would be strange. That would be strange at a fancy party that they didn't have proper caterwaiters of a certain legal age. She said there was young girls everywhere. And she just thought, huh, that's strange. And it's like, you're probably best friends with Matt Lauer too, Katie Couric. Yeah, well. You know? There you go.

There you go. Well, that was us. And so we really caught the acting bug again. I'm not going to lie. Like, I was just like when we were tossing the script pages down, we suddenly we were, we were in, you know, a few good men. I'm yelling at her. She's yelling back. It was pretty interesting as far as like.

It sounded like you guys honestly had a pretty enjoyable 3 a.m. We did. We did. And then we just apologized. Like, we didn't mean to make light. But, you know. But what happened? How can you on a certain point?

What can you live? Yeah. Yeah. Well, this weekend you guys invited me to go to a fun bar in West Hollywood that hasn't closed yet. And it's called, and it was to watch the rousy Carrano fight two women boxers. But they use their feet too? They use everything. Okay.

Because it's ultimate fighting. And right before I saw an interview with her, she's like, spoke high. of her opponents and then she just was like and then like and then what's coming next she's like I'm done like I'm gonna go have babies that's what Rhonda Rossi. And I just thought you know that's that's what it is to be a woman. You can get in a ring. You can beat up a woman. Then support that woman and then give birth. Good for her. Get pregnant. Those abs will come back. Your baby will be born with abs. Yes. That's how much abs she has. That there's so much abs. She's giving birth to abs. She's giving birth to actual abs. That's what the baby is. Was it a fun night, though?

I didn't go. I hung out with the deer in my backyard. It turned out. It's for the best that you didn't go. It turned into such a thing. Can I just tell you? I don't think there's anything better than not going to a fun event and then hearing that you miss nothing and it's right.

Yeah. They weren't playing anywhere in Weeho. So that was first. So we thought that it was going to play at this three... 33 taps. We called and they said they were going to play it. We get there. Oh, no, we're not playing it.

They were like, what? Well, fuck. So then we went to Jim Bar. They're not playing it. Jim Bar goes, no, no, no, 33 taps is playing it. No, they're not. Oh, okay. Then we go to beach.

We went to... Wait, are you walking or you having to drive to all these places? No, we walked in the vicinity and then called. And then you're walking with Jock? Our friend Jock. Jock then met us at Smitties. Okay. Which was like our fourth place to check.

and Strindies wasn't really playing it it was loud and Jacques Jacques got a little you know got a little hungies so we went to Dave

and Busters in like Hollywood Highland like in that yes yes yeah and that turns out

I went there a few times because there was a minute there was a juicy scy keeper that would like give me free tickets and I would go with the kids we got like the as many things as we could play.

Oh, well, yeah. So, and then you watched it. I think Jacques thought that Dave and Busters wasn't tragic because Janet from the Valley loves it. Yeah. And they went there in the Valley and they probably went to a nicer one in the Valley because... No, they went to that

one first, then they went to the Valley one, I thought. Okay. Her first time they went to the one in Hollywood. Okay. Well, it's, it's trashy and some of them are not that bad. This one was... I threw up in the parking garage. What? This is such a tragic night.

And also didn't the fight only last 12 seconds? 14 seconds! And I missed it. And she's, then she starts to get sick and is like, I have to go. Give me the keys. Give me the keys. Give me the keys. And I'm like, okay. And as she's leaving, I'm like, this is right at the moment this fight is happening. 14 seconds later. I'm not into the car. And she's like, it's already over. I'm like, we're paying the check. Like, I got to go. 14 seconds. It was so annoying. reason I turned you guys down

is because I was very tired from celebrating my nephew's college graduation. Shout out to Matthew Goldstein, Calhulieu. Really nice speeches, by the way. Anyway, I just was like I'm too burnt out to like motivate. And I said,

it's just too much effort for me. I cannot believe the effort you guys put through. You went to four different places, a scary parking garage. Yes. For a 14-second fight. Anyway, well. So, you know, dodged a bolder.

So Summer House, we are going to just fill you guys in Summerhouse because it really is the hottest, juicest story out of the Bravo world. I have watched it over the last 10 years,

but never like super religiously. Like I know that Carl and Lindsay fell off, got engaged, broke up. There's been stories. I know that, you know, Amanda and Kyle

have had a tumultuous marriage. Of course, we've talked about now West and Amanda being together. It used to be with Sierra and Amanda were best friends. And so there's a lot of deception there. The preview for the reunion looks amazing. And that's a week from, that's Tuesday the 26th, which that airs, I think, which the 27th. Whatever day that is. Screenings for it, right? Like a movie parties. There's all this stuff. Maybe I'll do something fun with it as well. Something live or on

Patreon or something, if you guys want that. Because I do think you don't really, the rest of the people, I don't know what's going on. I don't know about these other couples and stuff. I just care about the Sierra, Kyle, West, Amanda, Shabang. Yes.

And Jesse's point of view, the best friend who, by the way, he's singing, he has live shows. I can't. I can't. I just can't. He'll sing on the show on Summerhouse,

and so it's a good thing you just pop in because they'll have these big family dinners, and he'll stand up sing. Well, the end of the summer house, it was like a weird, very sad ending. So they have their last big party. Did you see it? And they all are like hugging and crying and and they've never really done that before. And also they're all going back to the city. They could all have lunch tomorrow, you know? Yeah. But it felt like they knew this is sort of the end of them doing summer house. Like I think at least for, at least, I think that they're hoping city will be a hit, which is Amanda, Kyle, because we're going to watch them, the demise of their, it already demise, but their divorce coming up. If in fact, we'll be doing the Easter eggs of when did she start fucking West.

And then we have Lindsay, who's a single mom now with a cute baby, and then all these other people. And I think they are doing that thing where the old people need to graduate. we need to infiltrate. Well, Summer House will continue. Yes, it's already picked up. But it'll be people in their mid to late 20s and they'll get to have to tap out at 35. Right. You cannot be 43.

Right. Married. A house with people. And, you know. And so I think that's why they were sort of weird and sad about it. And then Kyle and her left separately, right? And she went to a hotel. So then she says, Amanda says to Kyle,

everyone leaves. And then she's like, hey, per contract, I have to tell you we're done, you know, with our marriage to keep this paycheck coming. It cannot be a private thing. I needed to save it. The producers love me. I don't have a huge personality, but I can break up with you and it's compelling. So she wore a bando top, showed off her abs, some jeans and a winter suede jacket in September. Kind of loved it.

sat on the steps and is like, hey, we need to talk. Camera, everybody good? Okay. Action. Yeah. And she's like, yeah, I am going to go, not in your car. I'm going to, they've already arranged a car for me. And I'm going to get a hotel, which hopefully they paid for too. And meet West. And West is definitely coming over tonight to five.

A hundred. She could not wait to just be like, you're going to come in here. You're going to go out the back escape. And you're going to go in the back first. Yeah, go in the back first. And you're going to act like you're getting a coffee and then like, yeah. But she tells him, you know, that we, I'm just going to live separately. I'll see you at therapy. And then it's really hard because they keep doing this like September, 2025, January,

2006, February, 2006, August, 25. I'm like, I can't. Oh, what is this? Like, this is. Too much days. There's too many dates. Too many dates. And so then she shows up now in the city and she's wearing the same jeans, but they're hanging off or they're, you know, and he's like, why you look really skinny?

Well, I'm really stressed because now the world knows I'm in fucking West. But, you know, I didn't screwing them when I was being mean to you all summer. I wasn't. And they just have like another crying moment. And that's all I remember from the city. Either I fell asleep or whatever. And Lindsay's baby daughter's cute. That baby is cute.

That's a cute baby. I'm intrigued by the other people. It'll be good. It might be something. I could get into it maybe. Yeah, I definitely was intrigued by some of the dynamics and the friendships that are going to fall apart and the guys that are already cheating. Well, there was a scene at a clothing store that was really first episode tragic of like Lindsay and her friends. Like, we're going to put you in an outfit.

We're all going to go to and then they all went to like a rooftop bar. that little menage of scenes was pretty painful. You know, just early days, producer. Okay, you guys talk about, you know, Amanda. And Amanda comes in late with her new bangs. And I mean, I like people that I don't like on shows. Like, I don't really, and Julie definitely does not like Amanda from Beverly Hills. But I want Amanda to stay on.

I like seeing her bother people. I think it's fun. I like to your brother, Julie. It's like fun. And I like to be bothered. But you know what you're not just speaking of Amanda. Wait, sorry, finish your thought. That's a, sorry, also that they have the same name. I know that's hard. Okay. Amanda Beverly Hills like. But we watched when we left serious, we watched Summer House. We had never seen it. It started right when people's couch got canceled. So we always had like a lot of resentment for it. Um, we watched it from beginning to now like present day. This was in like maybe 2023. We were drinking rosé out of the bottle. In the early, days of it. They're drinking rosé. They say, they call it sending it. We're going to send it. They're

drinking Marival. They're like drinking Miraval. Julie and I started doing that. We started eating a ton of bacon every morning. We became full summer house people. Yeah. And Amanda was young. She was much, she had a different body. She was beautiful. She would always be naked and wild and running around, tons of skinny dipping. And she was a totally different person that apparently I fell in love with Amanda the way Kyle did. And now I've followed. and out of love with her. And he does say, he goes, I'm sad that someone's going to get the girl

that I fell in love with now, that version. Now he says I'm 43. How old is Amanda? Do you guys know off the top of your head? I think she's like either. And I think she's like 31. Oh, she's that much younger than he. Yeah.

Oh, okay. Well, good. Well, that's good. That's better than being old. I wouldn't know if you told me she was 38 or 28. I wouldn't know. But what if we told you he was 31? I mean, he does not.

Yeah. And he part. he's like he's 30. So he literally could be the 43 year old that stays on Summer House because he has fun, but I find I... You know what? He could do it. If he gets a young girl and now he's bringing... And now they're like, I can't

believe Kyle's coming back with his girlfriend. I mean, I would offer it to him as a producer. I'd be like, you get a hot young thing. You want to come back. I mean, he is the staple of the show. He's the one original because I don't think Lindsay's going to come back with her baby. Well, we don't need Carl. No. So was Lindsay there? Lindsay wasn't there all summer with her baby or she'd take weekends off from her.

baby. She wasn't there all summer. She just popped in once in a while. Yeah. But she, and she did bring somebody from in the city, I think I saw. Is it called the city or in the city? The city, I think. No, in the city. No, in the city. In the city. Ladies look pretty. Oh, in the sex and the city is a show. And this is in the city. Okay. And then there's two cunts in a zoom. Correct. Which not to be confused with the two of you. Right. because you're in person. Anyway, I find her boring. I find her flat.

And I think I do not believe the city will continue. Oh, really? I just think she's not enough to anchor a show. And Lindsay definitely is. So unless those friends really pop off, because Lindsay's very dynamic, and she's been on to watch her from the very first season of Summerhouse.

I mean, Summerhouse, that is a binge. If you, you know, if you get some cosmetic surgery, go through a depression, lay in bed, watch the whole thing. There's a couple of twins that are on it at one point. Oh my God, the twins. The twins on which one? Summer House. It is 10 years of the bacon and a bunch of,

Carl used to get wasted and it was so fun. He was hot. He was so fun. There's a lot of sluttery. Totally boring now. Yeah. Soft bar, yeah. Good for him, though.

It seemed like the opening was good. But I want to say with the Valley and with the city and with all these shows where they take a couple people and they're like now you're in the 30s you have some babies what is the pitch as a lindsay who's like all right i do have a couple friends let me see if i can get them on the show hi here's the pitch okay you guys thanks for coming to the meeting yeah you guys you know we're friends um you've seen how my life has just been so easy with all these deals I got. Look at my apartment.

I barely, I used to have to put PR events together. Now I just get things. We need some friends of mine. What's going to happen is your marriage is not going to last. So I don't know if you were thinking about getting divorced in the next 18 months, but you will.

Everyone's going to be exposed about how you're a bitch and you're a shady weirdo who disappears off camera. They're going to make it look like your fucking men in a gym, but you get to be on TV and you get to go to BravoCon and your numbers will go up. So do you want to be part of this show? I mean, that's what I feel like every time we get introduced to three couples on a new show, I'm like, oh my God. How?

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Like, you know, whatever they're doing, whether it's fraud or selling drugs or going on a boat for three weeks or doing whatever they're doing. If you're thinking about going on reality TV and you're, I don't care what the spectrum is, you're cheating, you're not paying your taxes. You're hiding anything. You're hiding anything. You will be revealed. So probably not best to do the show, but they can't help themselves. And they do it anyway. Well, that's why there is a new show that I came across.

They are casting. I think I talked about in the show. I'm not sure. But it is, were you convicted of a white-collar crime and you're out now? Oh. And I'm like, genius. Genius. I would definitely watch that show.

Why not? I want to know what was your shady life before. I've interviewed people like that. Like, where do you go from having a legit business to, or maybe not, to getting into a shady thing, to realizing you have to leave for three years to go to prison. What was prison like? Now you're out.

What else are you going to do? How are you making money? You can't, yeah, you can't have a license to do stock brokering or real estate or anything. So you've got to be on a reality show. And this just cuts out the Bravo middleman. Yeah. Bravo is the middleman. They want to get you.

They want to get you. Before you get convicted. They want to get you. This is like if you weren't on Bravo or if you were, Jencha, you go on this show already. Which is perfect. Yeah. So look how, I mean, Carl has got a good face.

And then this headline popped up right before you came. Lindsay Hubbard of Summerhouse claims Danielle Oliveira gave Carl Radke a handjob one week after their first split. This is a news article. This is a legit journalism magazine

Us Weekly. This is the headline. And, um, okay. Yeah. Handy Jay. That's how fun Carl used to be. Getting Andy Jays from his... She was always in love with him

if you watched the old summer houses the whole time. Lindsay was in love with Carl or Olivia or Daniela. They both were. Well, this Danielle says she's playing with her playing tennis with her boyfriend.

They've been together six months. She's like, I, she's on the city. She goes, I haven't talked to Lindsay Hubbard. Well, now we know it's because she, you know, gave a nice hand job. She's not good at tennis. so I'm glad she's going to have a hand job. Yeah.

Gives him a nice hand job. And it got back to Lindsay and that's, you know, and again, let's save this juice. Let's not put it in a podcast. Let's save it for when the week airs of the show. That's when we get it out here. It's that people watch this show. And she's pregnant. Danielle is now pregnant.

Well, in the show, they show them talking about it again. In January of 2013. Like, why is everyone trying to have babies with people that they're not even engaged to? what is the fucking rush? Did she learn nothing from Lindsay? And also it's like that's why all comes back to Lala that I told you. Do it on your own. I say like there's going to be in this cultural shift and it's all going to come back to Lala

because even Lindsay is not allowed. Her guy is supposedly great. She is not allowed to put that little girl on social media. She can put her on the show? Yeah. She said on the show, I just do, they said, why do you not post her but you put her on the show? and she said, I pick my battles. I'd rather, if I can have her somewhere,

I'll put her on the show. So she had to get, he said no. How weird they negotiated? That's like that, it's almost like a weird, like, remember that Bible story where the woman said, it's my baby? And then this other girl who didn't give birth, it's my baby.

And they were both saying, no, it's each my baby. And then the judge, whatever, in the biblical time said, okay, I'll just cut the baby in half. And then the one that was the real mother said, no, she can have her, the baby. And that's her. He was like, I knew you were the real mother.

This is so gross. that you're like sitting, and I'm not criticizing either one of them, but that's what this happens. This always happens when you break up with someone and one is a reality star or wants to put their kid on social media and the other one doesn't.

And, you know, and of course they want their kid on it because otherwise that takes them away from their child for eight hours. So I get it. If I am providing the home and the money for the child, then the husband has to say, or the ex has to say, it's okay. But then I understand,

when you see all the stuff about now. I mean, that child's very recognizable. Right. Like, she's a very unique face. She's very cute. I mean, people are going to see her, but maybe he felt it's harder to screen grab her on TV and then share a small video on social media 18 billion times.

He seems to be a nice, reasonable guy, and social media is a lot more insidious than being on a TV show. And Lindsay's already 18 years from now, like she's going to be on NextGen NYC. She's like, okay, Gemma. let's get to know Candy's daughter Riley. Let's already, I'm going to have Riley babysit. What housewives have grandchildren?

Well, that'll be triple Jen. Yeah, she's already there. I'll be Gen D or whatever we're on then. Social media is insidious and you do get all the creepers and lurkers and you don't want your baby's face. But at the same time, she is, she considers herself an influencer. She makes like, you know, lion's share of her money from social media. She's a mommy blogger.

And it's hindering her to not. be able to put her baby there. And Lala doesn't have those problems. Like if you want a baby so bad, go get a sperm donor. She can't put ocean on. No, that's what I mean with her new. But she can put ocean on social media, but ocean can't be on the valley. But she doesn't have those problems with Sosa. Can be, she can do whatever she wants with Sosa. But Lala, speaking of Lala, really clapped back at Maricio Kyle's husband. Oh, she did? She did. I just saw the clip. Oh, good. So Lala said on her show, somehow she was ripping on Maricio and Kyle's relationship and not being flattering to Maricio.

Maricio then DM'd her and said, hey, I heard what you said about me on your podcast. I'd be open to a call or a coffee or whatever to talk. She relayed that message. Other people somehow stirred it back to him and was like Lala's saying that you asked her out. So then TMZ or somebody stops Maricio. And he goes, I had the DMs.

I never asked her on a date. And she's a fucking liar. So then Lala's like, hey, guy who's old enough to be my dad. I didn't lie. I literally said this was it. And like, shut up. Exactly. Why are you, why you don't call me a liar.

Why are you trying to fuck everyone in Bravo, Mauricio? And you did ask her out. You did. Why would you have to meet for coffee? Why do you need to meet, you skank? Why do you need to meet? The one time, the one time P.K. corrected me via DMs

was I was... When you and Julie said that he faked the house burglary? No, that was in it. And I famously was like, I'm not getting involved. I stand by it. I still think you did it. Allegedly. Allegedly.

It's my opinion. Yeah. I'm not saying it's fact. It's just my opinion. You know, there's also a lot of robberies. There are. Who knows? But there were a lot of weird things,

but there's a lot of weird things that happened in L.A. So that can't be explained. So I will say this. I said one day in talking about them, you know, I mean, look, look at Doreen Piquet. They have like a 20-year age difference. And then he wrote me and he said, we are seven and a half years apart.

At the time, she was like 47 and he was 54 or something. Oh, fine. And I go, oh. Sorry. You just look really old. She looks. I go, I didn't say he looked really old. I go, she just must look a lot younger.

But he didn't say to me. Let's meet for coffee. And I'm not a 35 year old Lala. Right. But he didn't say, hey, I'd like to clear up that you think I'm that old. I'll show you what's not old. It's my dick. Let's meet for coffee.

No, Pete did not do that. No. It was a respectful DM correcting my, you know, misrepresentation of their age difference. And what's hilarious is he didn't bother DM. DMing about the burglary, he was more concerned that he was 20 years older. I think the burglary talk was only on live, unrecorded shows, but

it was only me referring to what other internet sluice might surmise. And then Julie's doubling down to and Garcel. I just feel that way. And Garcell. Okay, moving on, there's a little update and the story I told

on Tuesday, you guys are aware that Bethany Frankel was gifted shoes by Lexi, who happens to be the daughter of Dina Manzo of Real House, of New Jersey. She's a grown woman with a successful shoe designing business, and she shared that. She gave her the shoes, you know, as a gift. I'm sure you always hope that they talk about it. She never posted about it, which is okay.

But then when some, but then she did post about it with a link to a dupe where she would also get an affiliate commission. So I said that's where you really did it wrong. You didn't have to give the dupe. Okay? You could have just not posted, not answered, whatever. Mostly because I also want to say this, you don't know if the dupe is good.

You don't know where the dupe is produced. The dupe shoe could have fallen off your foot. Why are you recommending a shoe that you've never worn that could give you calluses that don't look as good? So again, you know, you're such a straight shooter. You're better come for this beat.

Well, I'm sorry. I don't think you should try. I try out my products that I recommend. I don't, you know, I don't not. So I sometimes I have to wait. Sometimes I get a sponsor and I go, I need to get this.

I haven't received it yet. You guys need to hold off a week until I try this food or this vitamin or whatever. So that's fine. Anyway, then this girl comes about. Oh, yeah. Sugar high is,

she's a baker. And it is a baker. in Boca. And boy, does she sound like she's from Boca. But she's like, I'm holding off going to tell the story. And now I am. We have a very, you know, we're a small business in Boca that do the beautiful cakes and the bakeries and these things. And so she said, the Bethany people reached out for her big birthday party. That's where she dressed up like Michelle Pfeiffer in, what was the movie that? Scarface? Scarface, yeah.

And that was her theme of her show and of her party and we want this big cake. She was like, wow, like it's Bethany Franklin. Okay, they fly in their best cake maker. The cake is gorgeous. Bethany does a million posts about it. Never once tags the cake. Shows the cake. Never once tags the cake.

Also didn't pay for it, but also didn't tag it. Give it any kind of shout out. She then goes to Publix and gets a. chocolate cake. Yes. And does a whole video to try to be relatable. Go to Publix. This fucking cake is amazing. And she's like, Publix doesn't need the thing. You know, like, and again, it wasn't, there wasn't a contract saying that she would or not, but it's that same thing. So you're going to go promote Publix so you look like you're an average chick. You're going to do the dupe when you're not, you know, so I'm all for Sugar High. It looks like they do great work. And yes.

Like, you know, go out of your way to do what you can. It is hard. I'm looking back at times when people have given me things, and I'm sorry if I have not tagged or whatever, but I certainly haven't taken your product, warn it, and then been like, you can get it over here for $12 cheaper, which I've never tried. Yeah, and not going to commission when you buy it.

Yeah. No. Gross. So there you go. Alex Cooper is pregnant, and I just, congrats. she's married. It is an interesting time because she came under some fire in her beef with Alex Earle, the husband who runs the unwell company. There's still some big ex-posay article that hasn't come out about how he is not the best CEO or whatever his position is.

But, I mean, what a what a chess move to know that you're like, I'm going to be unbothered because I'm pregnant. And, you know, pregnancy. a strange illness, people will stop talking about you anything negatively. Remember Stasi? That was a golden. People were out for blood during that 2020 summer of Stasi's past behavior and things that she said. And then she went out, had the paparazzi out there, and then let the world know she's pregnant. And everybody just went, okay.

Yeah. So it's a brilliant. It was obviously she was already pregnant. this news came out because she looks like she's at least three or four months. Yeah. I liked this photo shoot too. She wasn't three or four months and she just like really pushed out her stomach super hard to make it like just ate a bunch of pasta.

Yeah, just like. I definitely could. Yeah. Like I could totally look like eight months pregnant if I just pushed. It's such a cute photo shoot. Good. It really is. Good for her.

I mean, she got, you know, millions. At this point, she's 1.4 million likes. Good for her. We're always happy for, you know, a couple. like she has a right, she's a successful businesswoman, she's a right to have a baby. She had a right to be promiscuous and slutty before. She has a right to encourage people to be periscuous and slutty

before, during, after pregnancy, whatever. That doesn't matter. But there's one thing that's interesting. This girl, Sheila Knoor, this is this other thing that I've seen on the internet. Okay. I guess back in the day, when Alex Cooper and Sophia Franklin had

their show together. They had this kind of weird running joke where they'd sort of mock this former bachelor bachelor couple and their upcoming babies. I don't know if the baby was alive or the baby was coming. So she was pregnant. I wish I don't, we don't watch The Bachelor now. The only Bachelor people we know are from Housewives of Rhode Island and now we think we're experts and Caitlin Bistow. Yeah, Ashley I. This was a couple. She gets pregnant. They make and the baby's name, I swear it's like Calisi or so. No, it's Alisi. A-L-E-S-S-I.

Okay, so, but it sounds like Kali-C-C and that's already, so you're already kind of like, so they make this Instagram for the unborn baby, hashtag Kaleisi. You know you're doing the Game of Thrones thing. They start making fun of how they made

this Instagram. So it starts normal. So call her daddy, the original co-host. Yes. Okay. They're like, why are you making Instagram for, you know, dumb unborn baby. But then, and they were doing both names, they were saying it's either Alicia or it's like Noah or something. This is the boy's name. Got it. They start making this lore about the girl. And they're like, Elisey's going to be like on the stripper pole. They start the level that they

start saying that the baby's like sucking dick and shit, it's, it is truly, when people talk about it in past tense, it's, it usually would 100% make fun of somebody for their unborn baby having an Instagram and it would be no problem. They were every week turning this baby into like a segment into a character who was a slut, a grown woman slut who was engaging in sex acts. And this is their little baby. The baby then is born and it's a newborn baby girl and they're talking about the baby like and they were doing it constantly and this girl and of course now she's in postpartum and is all of the things when you have a baby. That's like literally like a horrific time while it's beautiful. for the person who went through it.

And she's got these two girls incessantly every week talking about her baby with her baby's name and then making fun of her baby and making her baby into a full-grown slut. It was crazy. Now, here's the thing. What do you think that either one of them should do at this point? Would, if you were that person,

and look, I've had a history of doing things that are not that I wouldn't do today. Old jokes that I would not do today. But I think if I did see this coming and now I am pregnant, even though it was years ago, I think I would, A, address it on my show.

100%. And I do think I would write a heartfelt letter and send a gift or something. I think she should be like, yeah. Yeah, and just be like, yeah, we went for a dumb lowbrow joke. It never occurred to me to think what you were going through, what it might be like when I'm a mother, when my child's going to be a public figure,

regardless if I put a heart over her face in a photo, I'm going to reference my child's name. In my life, I'm going to talk about them. She needs to have her on. She needs to tell her that to her face. And if I were Alice Cooper, I would blame Sophia Franklin, just because why not?

And if I was Sophia Franklin, I'd blame Alex. But everybody knew that Sophia was like the brains and the comedy behind Caller Daddy. I mean, Alex Cooper was the one who was like doing the editing and shit, but like Sophia Franklin was the, was the brains behind Collar Daddy. So Alex Cooper should just be like, I was young and dumb and full of come, and that is actually true. Yeah. And because she was. And I never even thought about what it would be like.

And now I'm horrified and I'm pregnant. And I blame Sophia. And I know our book's coming out. And I really apologize. And then Sophia should just clout chase it all the way. So should the Bachelor lady use it to get, you know, likes and views and rage bait. Because too late to sue. She said they considered suing.

because it was incessant and it was every week. Yeah. I mean, at least getting them to stop, but we know when season desists don't work. But she should have her on. It would be a great arc for her. And she has matured. I mean, she's totally different than she was.

I mean, listen, you know, Sarah Silverman said it really well one time. She's like, comedy is of what is timely at the time. Yeah. So it's like there is stuff that we've said and done, you know, two months ago or 20 years ago, that wouldn't, if we're not saying it currently today, doesn't mean that we think that same way. Whatever it is, you can change your opinions,

you can have different political views, you can have different things, you can think one thing about medicine and then 20 years later be like, actually, you know what, I would never do that again or whatever. Like, you can change your mind. It doesn't mean you have to, because you said it once and it was filmed or recorded,

like doesn't mean that you think about it forever. And now you could just, just for the karma of it, I would, and maybe she has and we don't know about it. But just for the karma, I would, even if I did it and this girl is acting like, I never said an apology, I'd be like, here's the FedEx thing that I sent a year ago or when I found out or I reached out and she said, I don't want anything to do with you because I'm gaining views talking about how much I hate you. I don't know, but I would address it. I know. Then the other thought is, which I've also preached this to, don't bring it up, let it go. it'll go away.

But I kind of feel being that you're becoming a mother. Yeah. And it wasn't just a one-time thing. Yeah. It was over and over and over. Yeah. And so you kind of just got a, and because they're getting a lot of bad press, the husband, Alex Cooper's, I think this is one of the ones that you address and make

right for yourself for your own baby because. Yeah. You wouldn't want, you wouldn't want, you know, two chicks in the office to be doing it about your kid for the next 15 years. You mean two cunts and a zoo? Or two cunts in a Zoom. But no, there really is a podcast called Two Chicks in an Office. So I was saying like another big one.

But also two cunts in a Zoom, they might be going after you and you might not appreciate it. Selling Sunset had a slaughter of realtors leave the tiny twins office. Now, wait, can I just, yes. I thought that was on pause. I don't even know what's going on with that. But this is from TMC. And so they are getting rid of Mary Bonnet, who was really like the main person that's been working with Jason Oppenheimer and they were a couple and everything four years before the show started. Then Emma Hernan, who's the blonde, who's very thin, is a great body.

Then Chelsea Las Canny, she's the pretty London girl whose husband cheated on her on the show. and then Sophia Vigara's sister, who I'm sure was not a realtor before she got this, but whatever, they made sure she passed the online class. How dare the Vergara's be that gorgeous. What? I know. And she's her sister cousin. Her sister cousin? There's something, there's some way it makes sense that she's a sister cousin.

Oh. Like some in-laws remarried or, I don't know, that made her a sister and a cousin. But they're all gone. Now, as a former realtor, I'm wondering, since this is such a realistic realtor show, you know, they are pounding the payment for getting to get listing. Did they all just decide sometimes when you're in a real estate office, another office will say, hey, come over here. We will give you a larger cut.

Instead of you having a 50-50 cut, we'll give you a 30-70 cut and we'll only take 30. And then you take your license and they say, and now I'm going to hang my license across the street at Colobanker. So I'm wondering, did they all go over to Maricio and have coffee with Maricio? I think so. How does Law would not know that Maricio thought, hey, girl, get your real estate license? I'm opening an office in Studio City, Sherman Oaks, and that is why he wanted to meet for coffee. Yeah. They're all going to the agency.

He's like, I already got four girls from the tiny twins. I mean, let's go. It's not a bad idea, actually. Marie Zio and the castoffs from selling sunset. Well, one girl that appears to still be on it is Bree, who is one of the six baby mamas of Nick Cannon. And Nick Cannon is having his own docu-series, which is a fake, classy name for a reality show on Netflix.

I mean, a docu-series, I mean, come on. It's you and your six, it's him and his six baby mamas and his 12 kids. How do you manage it all? Netflix says, Nick Cannon is ready to pull back the curtain. Oh, I'm wondering what's really going on. We see it on Instagram on the complete chaos,

headline making drama and heartfelt moments that come with raising 12 kids with six different moms and a brand new docu series coming later this year to Netflix. And Bree, who's still trying to sell a house with the tiny twins, she loves to post

anytime she's with him. and they were just in like Bora Bora or something. She loved, when they all did the Christmas photos, I hope they filmed, hopefully that's why they all did their own Christmas cards. I'm guessing it's got to be in the series where each girl tried to outdo the other

with their family Christmas card. I mean, you know. I'm watching it. More, 10 times harder than I even dipped into the Hilaria Baldwin and Alec Ball. Who cares about that? Yeah. But Hilaria is doing another show.

now with Amazon, which is like she, Margaret Joseph's. Yeah, what was that? What was that? It's like a random group of women. But what are they doing? Can you more? It's one of those. Are they having therapy?

Yes, they're having therapy. Okay. They're doing it's a survival show like, I think they might. It's like accountability and shit. Yeah. But they're not surviving like with no makeup. No, but they are in like, you know, probably somewhere in Costa Rica or something. There was like that one show that was in Costa Rica.

that had all the people that were having the same thing where you do, you know, it's workshops. It's like nine perfect strangers or whatever. It's like they're going to go and do like... It's like after reality. So they're all off reality. They're all off their reality shows. But then they come on a reality show together.

They're going to do truth falls. To trust. Trust. They're going to do trust falls. They're going to do like, I'm sure there's going to be like a breathing day. You're going to have to walk on like rope swings and trust each other. Well, there you go. That's happening.

Here's all the women. They're all gorgeous. He must have some Mariah Carey is not participating in the show. I forgot Mariah Carey, no. Rock and Row, baby. Also, those kids gotta be close to 18 now. Yeah, but Rock and Row are the classic.

Moroccan and Monroe. Like, so cute. He, I don't even, I can't. I wish Mariah Carey was on it. Obviously, so does everyone. This is a crazy story. TikTok star Gabby Gonzalez. She and her father allegedly hired a hitman to kill singer Jack Avery,

who is the father of their child who is seven named Lavender. Oh. So the story is crazy. They met young. I think she got pregnant 17, but he was a teenager too. And they were sharing custody, and it was not going well. And one day he said he was, just playing guitar at his mom's house like in Hawaii and two people knocked on the door because

they showed this clip of him on a podcast before this got out and they and he's like he thought it was like the homeowners association or something he's like what's going on and they're like we're the FBI we're here because someone has plotted to have you killed oh my god and you know really freaked him out for a month he you know got self-medicated with alcohol didn't want to leave the house, obviously. They set it up the FBI to act like they were somebody else.

Her nanny and somebody else are witnesses for the prosecution in which the dad was like he's better off dead. She was she was communicating with

some guy that they would refer to as Barka and she was like there's message where she's like, never too soon to call Barka and get this done. That's the hitman? The hitman or the legend or fake hitman. I mean, it's a lot of complicated. Hiring to kill your ex or father of your kids or whatever is a classic story in the juicy

crime world. It's a big mistake. It's, it's, uh, you're better off just like messing with the car. It's very scary. It's very, very hard to convict or have any kind of. real case unless the people that tell the authorities don't let the person know like if you were to say to me do you know someone to kill whatever brandy yes and i immediately call brandy and i go julie's lost her mind she and then we both go to the police now now we're probably never

going to be able to convict julie because she's going to say i was joking right i there was a the only way to really convict someone is for me to go, okay, let me see if I know this guy, okay? And then I kind of sound like it was Jennifer Aniston helping Julie there for a second. Then I have to go to FBI. Yeah. Then I have to go to the police and say, I've been given this information. Why do I think it's true? Why would I think that she would want to do that? And then I have to do everything they tell me, play along. Then they might. go to her and go now you need to play along. Like there's been

a case where like literally it came to a point where the undercover cop acting like the hitman had to then go to the wife who thought he was a real hitman and had to put the actual husband in a ditch with blood on his face, Hollywood makeup, take a photo

show the wife while you know having hitting cameras and things and have her being like okay good. Good, I'm glad you did it. Here's your five grand. It has to be that many steps. Otherwise, they're like, I was joking. We were doing it for a reality show. I'm a comedian.

I would never think that. I never said it. So this is really bad. She has been arrested. Did the guy get killed? No. Oh, thank God. No, no, no.

He lived and I guess we'll find the whole case. Because it's going to trial. Both she and the dad. The dad's in Texas. He's going to have to come to be extradited to LA County. She's in LA County prison and the bond is set at

$2 million for the alleged murder for hire plot. So this Abby Gonzalez, huh? Why? Do they say why? Why are they wanting to kill the guy? Oh, because it was a custody battle because it was annoying to have to switch out the weekend. Oh, that's it? Yeah,

because they just wanted him done. They just wanted to have her alone. No, this happened so much where grandparents get involved. The most famous case was this case out of Florida where this girl and her husband were getting divorced. She wanted to leave Tampa and go back to Miami where her parents and brother were with the kids. The husband was like, no, this is where we live together. I'm not going to be five hours away from my kids.

He was found shot in his driveway. And then turned out that her brother, that the, that the, that, that the wife's brother had hired this girl that worked in his office to get hit men, ex-husbands, whatever, guys that do this, killed him. He went to prison. And then they did all this work and realized that the mother was involved. And right before she got on the plane to go to Vietnam, which you can't extradite someone from Vietnam, she just got convicted. and to this day, the wife and daughter and sister of the two people, she has maintained her innocence and has not been arrested for any of this kind of plot.

And I don't know if she ever will be. But both her brother and her mother did get convicted for setting up a hitman to kill her soon-to-be ex-husband because they all wanted to be in Miami together and not. deal with sharing custody. Wow. It all comes back to Lala. She unlocked the future. Seriously. It's true. Just have your own children and be like,

look at Kenya. And then you have the thing. Kenya more? Yeah, because then you have. Air care? You have the. Oh, that place closed. She wants Brooklyn to have a sibling, so she wants to use those embryos. But we obviously, we being her and then all of the world hates the X. And it's just like, you didn't know him that long. I mean, I know people want to get dicked down. I mean, not to be crude about it, but like, just get the turkey baster, man.

And then nobody's going to tell you and you don't have to shoot your husband in the, you know, in the driveway. Because he won't travel from Tampa to Miami. It's not like she wanted to move to L.A. No, but still it would, they had 50-50 and he just was like, no, probably because the parents were dicks. And he was probably like, I don't really want my kids spending that much time with their grandparents who are going to talk badly about me 24-7. Yeah. So we moved to Tampa together. This is where the judge said.

We have 50-50 custody. So he was not going to allow her to move back to Miami so that she could be with her parents. And the parents were like, we're successful, rich Miami dentist. And we'll figure this out on our own then. Wow. Imagine being forced to stay in Tampa.

Okay. So, by the way, I've been to Tampa and there's a beautiful place called Davies Island. And it's very, very nice. So there's very nice parts to Tampa, okay? All right. Real Housewives of Rhode Island. Here is some juice coming from another content creator.

Right. Bravo for the rest of us are saying that Kelsey, the self-proclaimed sugar baby that lived in the fancy house. Kelsey's ex-boyfriend, the Sugar Daddy, Miami's girlfriend, okay, because he always had a girlfriend in Miami, had one with her, was spotted in Rhode Island at a popular restaurant with Rhode Island producers allegedly. Oh.

And so, you know, so here we go. So we're going to get. I think that, but I think this was all planned well before they ever sat down. because there's also rumors that they were broken up and everything before she ever filmed. And so by sharing the story, I think they have an agreement. I think she's like, great, bring on this girlfriend, have them be friends. This will keep the show going for a bunch of more seasons. Do you think she already had that apartment and she just went back and filmed at his house?

Yes. Okay, because the apartment did seem already set up. I was like, huh, you got that set up quite quickly. I mean, I think that happens with shows where they're like, you know, so let me hear your past. That was on Laguna Beach. Yeah. They went back and redid that whole year. Yeah.

With Kristen Cavaleri and Jason or whatever his name was and Lauren Conrad, they just recreated that whole year before. I mean, I really think with reality shows, the only thing that's really real about them is that you are this human and this is your name. Apartments are wrong. Cities are wrong. You're renting houses that aren't your. You're lying about your marital status or your relationship status. You're pretending you have businesses that you don't like count on. What?

That their face is that face because then the face becomes a whole other face. Right. The face is not the face. No, the face starts out as the face. So only the internal organs. That's right. Only the internal organs are that of the person that you're portrayed. And you're, I guess your name.

And even that people change. Yeah, that's right. The Valley, how are we feeling, girls? I want to say this. I like it. I know it's dark and depressing. I love seeing other people miserable. Okay.

Especially because I don't have children. Really makes you not want them. I get jealous of the people with the babies. And especially when they're pregnant and pregnant, people are smug. We all know this. And it's like, I'm a baby, baby. I'm not having a baby.

And it's like, you're not having a baby. You're actually having a 19-year-old who doesn't appreciate you, that you pay for everything for. It's just not there yet, but it will be. So I like that aspect, but I do want to say that I really hand it to Alex Baskin because we know people on these shows. We know people on the Valley.

We know people on all of them. And we know them well. And you'll still find yourself going like, you're judging your own friend. You're like, you really shouldn't be doing that. For example, Janet, and she's a friend of ours, I always wanted Janet to call what's his butt

What's me? Danny. Danny and Nia? She was a little too We wanted her to call him a sex pest. Yeah. Just soften the language So we can understand that he's a sex pest.

We all know what a sex pest is. You know, he's getting drunk. He's being inappropriate. He's flirty. He's misogynistic. But he's not breaking the law. Yeah. And she was using her language

is a little too harsh. It kept going and going, and Janet was doubling down. But we know Janet to be a reasonable, kind, like very cool person in real life. And I was just kind of like, and with Alex Vaskin and the producers of from Evolution who produced the Valley, just being like, I really wish she wasn't getting this villain edit. But now, via Lala, again, all roads lead back to Lala, she came in as the replacement, I believe, for Jax. She obviously has the biggest dick on the show. the biggest balls. She's the alpha apex of the show.

She's the apex predator. She's running it. And she came in and she jerked that narrative right off of Janet and put it right on to Danny. And I am living my whole life for it. I'm like loving that that was going one way. And then it took a hard right or left and is going another way now. And I'm like, oh my God, this is genius. I might have been aroused when.

this woman Lala went and completely topped Danny to the ground she bent him over pegged him through his mouth and took it back and then walked away and then came back and did it again he needed it and Nia needed to see it

and it was so satisfying we never get justice of any kind on these shows and for most of the reality shows on Bravo when the husbands are disgusting, we get no justice. Whether they go to prison or not, the misogyny and the sexism and the gross and the sex pestery of it all and the, it just always goes unchecked.

It is the first time in the history, literal history, of any reality show where a woman came in and checked his ass to the ground. And it was very satisfying. And I can't wait for Lala to do it more. I would literally pay money. She should start business. She should start business. People should pay her to go do that.

She is so empowered at this point. It's beyond. I agree. It's so fun. I love it. It was a great scene. And then to do it while he's looking hideous in a cheap wig and calling it out, it was amazing.

Real Housewives New Jersey, all about the Real Housewives posted. They are big support. of Teresa, these two podcast girls, so I guess they were at her birthday, and they decided to share filming from it. And they,

she had a big birthday party, and Louis was there, and Louis was hugging Joe Gorga. So this is a kumbaya, family forever, you know, nothing's the thickest family blood.

Felt the pizza ovens. Or, except for a Bravo contract. Yeah. And we're all happy. Like nobody needs, you know, make it work. Why be petty about it? So there you go. That's happening. Also, Mr. Housewives let us know that over filming in Salt Lake City,

our girl Lisa Barlow premiered a song with dancers and Vita Tequila in the back called Baby Gorgeous. And I watched a little video of it And it's exactly what you'd think It's like, that's right, baby gorgeous Dancing all night with baby gorgeous Singing songs getting high Having shots, hey goodbye Hey everybody, it's time for baby gorgeous

And literally like chat Gptis Like flashing in the back like, I wrote this She's like, thanks chat I love my new song And then Meredith's gonna be like I remix this Or actually my assistant did, and then she's going to bust the beats. And Meredith is busy, going down to Charleston to be with Southern Hospitality DJ who said,

I'm going to do an all-female DJ night. We're going to shove it to the male DJs. That's why I need Meredith Marks to come down and do her set for the hearing of peers. No. Now, you guys might not recall that we. are us three are very good friends with the cast of Southern Hospitality. Now, fortunately, at the dinner we shared with them. Maddie is who's the DJ and the star of the show.

She was not there. So we don't know Maddie. We know Mia. But we know Mia who's, I through, there have been some blind items put out implying that this show is going to be canceled. Oh. Which is a bummer and I hope it isn't. But I know that if it is, at least three of the people will just go to Southern Charmed

and that includes Mia. Yeah. Because Mia, who's our friend, was the one who Shep Rose hit on. Who wouldn't? Him and his girl, exactly. Yeah. And she also was hooking up with West before Amanda. Yeah.

So Mia's the best. So, but I was wondering, do you think Erica Jane, I think it's DJ Pretty Mess? Yes. Is offended that she's not included on the bill. Oh. Listen, I don't need to go down the south. I'm there all the time visiting my mother. All right.

getting pounded hard. You're the only one on the show getting fucked. I don't need to do another show for free. I already committed to doing Bose's wedding. All right, babe. Like, we're good. Is she just a friend or is that just a rumor? Erica Jane.

I don't think they've announced anything for real about changing anything up. The only reason I think they would do something like that is just like that they do with any executive that starts to make too much money. They split up their territory. They try to, and once you've been on the show for 10 years, it's my understanding that according to the way the contract works, you're in well over a million a year. And they might want to take you down a peg and be like,

all right, you can come back, but you're only going to get $6.50. Do you want to do it? You'll just be a friend. You won't have to go on the trip. You can turn down this. You might make more if we do some deal where we pay per scene and then something insane happens with your life. But if it continues Erica Jane,

where we never see your boyfriend, we never see your son, we see you rearranging two pillows in your house. And then giving good advice to the women, but that's about it, then we're going to have to scale you back. Now, if you show up as a friend and we're paying you 20,000 a day for a scene

and some shit starts to happen, And we start seeing, then I don't know how they talk to them. I don't know what they would say, but I feel like that's kind of the conversation, if in fact it's a conversation. Because they have a lot of now senior Beverly Hills people that have all be making over a million dollars now. They need to sit Kyle down unless she's ready to come correct for Mauricio.

Because this is the perfect opportunity for he already flirted with Giselle and Ashley on Potomac. She needs to start like her and one of the daughters, just pick whichever one's like the bitchiest and need to start talking shit to him and about him. And it's like, you're not going to come and have sex with all of my colleagues. This is my job. Get out of Bravo.

Go hook up with TikTok stars. You are the CEO of a real estate office with hundreds of female realtors that have skirts just past their... The cooch. Yeah, their crotch hair, okay? Where their tampon string is longer than that. You don't need to.

go here. Don't be DMing people on Bravo. It is so annoying. Yeah, go to the agency in Canada. Go to Mexico. Honduras and all the different countries where you just set up just so that you could skank around. Get those four girls and just the open hireers just kicked off and say,

come on over, girls. And that's what Kyle needs to do. Yeah, but I also just think, you know, in their situation, it's just the ugliness of divorce, the work, the money, the financials, that it will get ugly. And she is just in a place where she's like, that's just not how I want to spend the next year or two of my life or 10. She just doesn't want to jump off that cliff.

Yeah. And so we'll see. And she has our right to do that. And no matter what. And even if they do and they say, we don't want you on this show anymore, she'll probably be like, fine then. And then at that point, she will try to get half the agency.

Yeah. So who knows? This is a little crazy crime story, too, that I thought you'd find interesting. The mango owner, you know that store of Mango? So he was the son of the main person, okay, who was his dad. And one day he said, Dad, would you like to go for a hike? Oh, no. And the dad goes, all right, you know, we've been having some issues at the business. I don't think you're running it right, son.

You just lost $160 million son. But I'm flattered, son that you'd like to take me for a hike up towards some cliffs. Well, unfortunately, he slipped on a rock and fell 350 feet to his death in 2024. And then they realized, wow, the dad and the son were not getting along. he had hired some outside person, financial officer, which cost him $116 million. The dad then got out of retirement to step back in and run the company because the son wasn't running it right. And also the dad was in the works of changing his will to give the majority of his money to some charity. Oh.

And so he has been arrested and they must have a lot more evidence. But as far as pushing him down the cliff, I don't know if there's any real evidence of someone's seeing that or anything. So I do think regardless of financial and circumstantial evidence, but this isn't in America, it will be a hard case to prove.

Where is it? I think it's... Like South America? Yeah, I think it's South America somewhere. But Spanish retailer, yeah. Maybe it won't be as hard in another country as it is here where they want to give people technicalities. I mean, certainly there's that one famous one,

which is on 27 date lines where the guy takes the photo right before tossing her off the ledge. But he got caught because he did that to his previous wife at the same ledge. God. I mean, how many... They call it an alpine divorce. Oh, okay. Meaning instead of getting divorced, you take your wife on a fun little environmental adventure. Whether that's...

Eco-tourism. Yeah. Whether that means going on a boat, taking a hike, going up a cliff. In this case, this is family,

but their father's son. But I mean, my God, you're on a cliff, you're hiking, he's old, people do slip and fall, but he was the one that suggested the hike

and took him to the place. And also, there's lots of hikes you can do. I'm just thinking they must have a lot to have a lot to have a lot to have a lot. Can you imagine someone talks to you

just like roll down and be like, why'd you do that? You're like dusty. Why'd you push me? The dogs following you, Raven. There's all these people just taking. And somebody would definitely catch it because all anyone does is take selfies and videos and stuff on the famous Hollywood Runyon Canyon.

So like someone's going to try to kill you there. Somebody, there's 12, you're on, you're in the background of 12 TikToks. Oh, 100. And Fitness Marshall, he's like doing his dance, he's at dance exercise and there's you tumbling down the hill behind. But you choose to go on a hike where there's a. actual cliff. Yeah. And get close to it.

Like, why are we even going to the cliff? Let's walk up to the cliff and do stretching. And if you hate your son, why are you going on the high? I mean, you got to know. You probably was like, yes, son, okay? Let's, no, I don't think you would suspect your son. I think you're thinking, yes, we're going to work this out. I do want you off.

I don't want you to have this business. You're going to be fine in life. But like you're running into the ground. The back to Runyon. If you did do it on Runyon, you also like it's also like half cement so you'd be so mad you'd be like not only rolling but you'd be like yeah i'm all scratched out then you get like the stickers there's that hard side of runyon two where you could that one you just you sort of get it going for like a week yeah where you're doing the hiking

and then you that one time you're just like we want to do the hard side not really and then that's much higher i can honestly say i have never been in my entire life on any kind of dangerous hike. Well, remember when you guys went out to do your Christmas card in like Moab? Oh, that was a little bit. But that wasn't dangerous. There's millions of people around and it's like that's at the. But you're still hiking.

Whereas we went and you're like, we did our Christmas card. And we were like this. No, we're just going to stand and like look at it. You've hiked all the way out, right? You do this thing where you get the boots. Some people want to be cheap and don't get the boots. get the boots and the stick. And it's this really, really pretty thing.

And you kind of walk through the water. And some people will like wear pants, but you don't like, it was hot enough. And but it is long. And I did think, what if I fell and broke my ankle? Like how, this is what I wonder. Like, how do they get you out of there? They airlift you.

And then you have to pay for it. Yeah. And it's a pain in the ass. And then everyone's, to talk about that. That's too. That's even, I don't know, do you prefer to get pushed and murdered or do you prefer to like have, be shamed at the fact that you're the asshole who sprained their ankle and can't get out of the... Honestly, it's like, there's a thing. I don't know.

And everyone's like, oh. The only time it's, it pisses me off is when you've gone alone. Oh, I can't, I can't take. I agree. You went missing and then look and look and look for you. And then we had to get the thing and spend the money. Like, find a friend. Find a friend.

I am always like that too. It's like a hiker has been lost in the whatever was. And make sure your phone is charged. Also, don't go alone. Also, make sure someone has got the 360 live on you. Yeah. I mean, at this point, there's no excuse. There really is no excuse.

And we have been hiking in Burbank and seen like somebody like there with their friend who's got like a sprained ankle and we're like, losers. Just keep gone. What about that? Remember that story where the guy had to like cut off his arm? Oh, yeah. Oh, God. He fell down a thing.

He was going through those weird rocks. He was also a thirst bucket. He was in those rocks. And he's doing like for all those free solo guys who they're just waiting to eat their own arms. Like they just won it so bad. I don't think he cut it off. He cut it off. He nodded off.

He took a jack knife and had to cut his arm off. There's just no way I would do that. There's no way I could do it. I would just, I mean, I'd please don't ever put me in that position, God, because I will just be like, I'm ready to go. I know. I'm good. I'm good. But then you should sit there and starve to death and muck, but if bugs and snakes come.

But I think that what happened... Those thoughts, those thoughts of what would you do are just... Horriffing. It's the Saw movie. But he, I think at that point, his, I think at that point his, I think at that point, the arm is dead. It's numb. I think that he's in a position where it's, if he doesn't, he's in a, he has to cut it off.

It's the hiking after you've amputated yourself. Now that, now what are we doing? He had to hike out of there and like, like miles. Yeah. That's why I only walk around my own neighborhood. Mm-hmm. I don't want to do. Nothing can happen because I really don't,

I really don't need to do that. No. We even get irritated at your house when Peter takes the golf cart and then we're forced to walk. And I'm like, when do we get to do the golf cart? We'll have the golf cart when he's gone. Okay, good. This week because he can't take that with him.

Apple Martin is going to make a feature film debut, Lance Roll in Nancy Myers' new movie. Now, of course, every comment was, how did this depot baby get the job? Well, why shouldn't she get that? the job. Okay. First of all, you want to get some free goop stuff, clearly. Nancy Meyer, so she's like, hey, your goop shit's expensive. There's a part for a young girl. Could I read Apple? Sure. Apple comes over. She's pretty. Her mom works with her. Her grandmother works with her.

She's got acting coaches. She memorizes the lines. It's a Nancy Meyer's movie. So it's going to be about rich people on the East Coast at a summer home. Mm-hmm. She looks the part. Yep. And good for her. She, the story that haunts this girl, which I will remind you of, some awful story. She was like a little bully bitch in some private high school.

Yeah. And again, she graduated from college. She was an entitled bitch. But maybe she's changed. Hopefully, when she's. has her podcast, she'll invite her people that she bullied on the show and say, I have

grown. Yes. And she will have a podcast. Why isn't someone who has a podcast? I was a bully entitled bitch. That's a good one. I was a bully. That's the podcast. I was a bully. And each time it's like, hi, let me talk to you. Did I tell you this was a good story? This is like a third party story that was told

to me. But this this girl was was was reached out by another girl that she went to high school with and she was like I know I'm going to be in Northern California like starts to talk to her on Facebook and they start to kind of hit it off and then she's like I'm going to be near you I'd love to like have lunch with you or something and she's like okay great and she comes and now the the victim because one's a bully once so the victim starts to approach the bully from from when they you know and the bully's being nice, their moms, their executives.

Yeah, let's have coffee. And then she sits down with her and she like opens this book or whatever, opens this piece of paper and it was the bully had like made fun of her black curly hair and made like a cartoon and kind of tortured her during like a summer camp or something. And the victim is now like, I don't know, a CEO at like Google like is so successful. And the other girl is like, oh my God, like you are so successful. You got a Brazilian blowout. Like, yeah.

Why are you still like, I can't believe you're carrying this. But like, I'm sorry. And it's always like the bully doesn't really remember or something. And they didn't really. You never are going to get what you want. What you want. You're never going to get like, you know what I did it? You know, they're just, you're not.

It's like, it's crazy. Because you want the reason to be that they were as obsessed with you as you were with them because they're bullying you. But they're just awful people. They're just dicks. They're just dicks. They don't even remember. They don't even care. And also in their kid brain, they don't really realize like the cruelty.

Like children can be the most cruel. They really don't realize how fucking cruel and how they were excluding you and how it like. But that's how, not dumb, but how shows their character even now that they can't even see. Sounds like she did apologize. You should just be over it and it doesn't matter. Like a lot of times it's like, I mean, I didn't know. I was a kid. I had one mean bullying moment that haunts me all the time.

Yeah. I am friendly with this girl, have been friendly with her for the last 30 years. But when we were like 12 or 13, we all hung out and there was her and two other girls and me. because there was four of us. And the two girls said, we're going to tell her today that she can't hang out with us. Oh.

And I mean, I will remember it. Like, it's a movie. And we... You said okay? I said, okay, we went up to her. And it was something to affect we're not going to hang out with you anymore. Oh, it's like me girls.

She goes, is this a joke? Are you guys kidding? And we're like, no. And it was like, you can't sit at a lot. our table. Why are you wearing pink on Friday? We're just not going to do anything with you anymore. And later on, she went to another high school. We were friends. I've never talked to about with I swear every time I still know her. Yes, I still know her. You got to do the addressing like with the curly hair. I don't want to bring it up. I think it's too. I'm hoping she forgot. I would love it if

she doesn't remember it as the victim and I'm the one that remembers it. But this is your Alex Cooper opportunity. She should be sitting right here. First of all, she's gorgeous. She's successful. She's on her second husband who's very successful and hot. We have a great time every time we see each other. But every time I see

her. You think of that. I remember the building and I remember going, I know this is wrong. I'm not sticking up to these two girls. Why am I not? And how much that must have hurt her. Are the other girls ugly now?

One I don't keep in touch with one I'm like Facebook friends and she was always really nice. It was honestly really out of character that we did that. Was the one the mean one? No, it was like we weren't even popular enough to be that mean. Like I don't know how the four. Who's scared of this? I don't know if the three of us were a threesome and then she kind of infiltrated and they were like, we don't, we don't enjoy her that much. I don't know what their memory was.

I just remember the confrontation and how awful that was. Wouldn't it be crazy if you found out it was actually you that came up with the idea? The woman's going to get on Facebook and be like, Heather, that was you. Or that she was like, yeah, I forgave me because I'm like, she's like, who cares? And it wasn't a big deal. Or if she goes, no, Heather, you call me that night and said you were sorry. Like, I don't know. Why has she been cool to me all these other years?

Hopefully it wasn't that bad. But it's really the only time in my life that I really feel like it was an outwardly, like, mean, awful thing. Yeah. And, like, if you went into, like, recovery, you'd have to collar up and make amends. I mean, this does need to be on. Well, I wasn't an alcoholic at 12. No, but I mean, but you still, people go back into their histories. But this needs to be on I was a bully podcast.

Like, this is, you know. You know this is coming out. Oh, by the way, the Jonas Brothers has a podcast. Really? they lost all their money though right I don't know if they seem to be maybe I mean it makes sense I think they they they've had a lot of failed TV shows

The oldest brother got into some financial trouble so they started doing like a ton of projects Well good luck splitting the eye heart You know what? You know what? Get that new Trafal money honey We're big fans of Neutrophal Girls What's going on with you? Tell everybody

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