Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Brandy and Julie on Female Rage, Britney and Grifters

Episode Date: May 2, 2024

Julie Goldman and Brandy Howard from Dumb Gay Podcast are here! Is Britney Spears running through her $60 million on private jets and sensible brown pumps? Stagecoach might have been the death of me.��The real female stalker in Baby Reindeer is pissed! On Vanderpump Rules, Scheana may have finally gotten through to Sandoval and Ariana had to explain male rage to Brock. Jax is stressed on The Valley. A 32-year-old grifter woman with a Masters degree pretended to be a 13-year-old. Is Dorit not returning to RHOBH? Drew Barrymore knows no boundaries. We want the Richard Simmons bio pic! Kelly Ripa and her husband are annoying click bait. Taylor Swift is hanging with Gigi Hadid and Bradley Cooper. Barbra Streisand just wants one simple question answered. Enjoy!   Shop Juicy Scoop Merch https://juicyscoopshop.com  Get EXTRA Juicy on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop  Follow Me on Social Media Instagram: https://www/instagram.com/heathermcdonald  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald  Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Yeah. Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have the stars of one of the greatest podcasts that was just acquired from a huge network. People are dying for it. It is Brandi and Julie of Dumb Gay Podcast. Guys, how did I get this booking? Thank you so much for being here. I'm very excited about your podcast growth. Well, you know, you've said, I remember years and years ago,

when you said to us, when we appeared on your podcast, the Juicy Scoop, that our lives would change, and they have. And so I feel a full circle moment here with all of us together in this wondrous time. I love it, love it. The real get is the live show on Friday. Yes, let's talk about the live show Friday. I have it right here. Which we never would have agreed to do without the $10 million you're paying us.

Yes, I'm paying $10 million, but you guys have to split it. I know, like, remember, next year renegotiation. We are very excited to come to Scottsdale. We're going to do some hot topics today. And what is great about the live show is we let it frickin' rip. You cannot hear what we're going to say anywhere, but if you go to a live show, you can't hear it on the Patreon, you can't hear it here.

So that is why it's super fun. Julie's gonna start at the show with her amazing standup, then I do my amazing fresh new standup of stuff you haven't heard. And then Brandi comes out in a cute outfit. Are you wearing, bringing those heels that you love? Yes. And then we talk shit at the end.

So it is a good one. There are still tickets left. It's only one show because I could only do one show because I have the greatest thing happening on Sunday, May 5th. It is my Mother's Day brunch and mass scene for Brandon's school. And I went when he was a freshman and I saw how amazing it was and that the seniors spoke. And I said, you could offer me $10 million. I'm not missing this now. Listen, he is gonna speak it might be quite simple

I don't care. I'm so excited. He is going to be he's going to speak. Have you asked so excited Have you asked him if for any yeah, like I just trust that it'll be great I just trust that it'll be great and that's all I want Will you that king die if he gets up there and is like my mom is the greatest mom in the world? Let's not talk about whatever it is. I don't care if it's super specific or super general. That's amazing.

It is, if you're looking to go to a school, they do offer this at the end of the four years moms. If you'd like to send your kid to Crespie. No, I'm very excited about it. So Drake didn't do it? Or Drake went to Calabasas. Oh, okay. Also he graduated during COVID.

Oh. Yeah, you know it's those same kids whose graduations, I don't even wanna get into it, are being compromised. So those same kids that didn't get to graduate from high school because of COVID. Are now not getting to graduate. Are now graduating from college. That's unbelievable.

Because of yes. Oh! But you can listen to dumb gay podcasts if you want to go into it. We will get into it, that's right. The ugliness, the annoyingness. Yes. You know.

You're absolutely correct on that. Let's get into the fun, okay? So I just want to talk about a little bit of latest with Britney Spears, and this isn't fun, but it's juicy. Well we don't know. Some people don't think we should be worried, other people do. So she had quite a weekend, all right?

It started out with this photo where she was with her dad, and she and her dad did settle their legal dispute over the conservatorship. He was saying that she owed him two million for the money that he had to spend paying lawyers who helped him manage the conservatorship. He was saying that she owed him two million for the money that he had to spend paying lawyers who helped him manage the conservatorship. Brittany and her lawyers didn't agree with paying that much, especially because they were some serious accusations, as we know, against her dad. But it has been settled, we don't know what it is,

but they were seen together, okay? And she was laying down because maybe she didn't wanna be seen photographed, you know? Clearly, doing her classic, no seatbelt, which we And she was laying down because maybe she didn't want to be seen photographed, you know? Clearly doing her classic no seatbelt, which we know she loves. Oh, okay. Right, right. She loves to not wear a seatbelt.

Brown pumps her back. This could be a sign of stability or not, I don't know. She seems fine. But the brown pumps were also- She seems completely, completely fine. I missed this, but she was wearing a different pair of brown pumps in the car. Then she came back and danced around the Cheesecake Factory

foyer in another cute dress, pushing the boobs up in the brown pumps. And then, of course, TMZ interviewed some psychiatrist who says that she should be on meds. And other people are saying she's going through her $60 million. This is through page six. She's going through her 60 million dollar estate post conservatorship like crazy. She goes on to goes to Hawaii goes to all these places always takes private jets goes.

You know, I don't know if that's true or not. But she was seen in a driving like a Jeep or in a car with a bunch of friends in the back and she filmed it and she since take took it down. seen in a driving like a Jeep or in a car with a bunch of friends in the back. And she filmed it and she since take took it down. But TMZ captured it and they were going to a winery and then she posted this bottle of wine. And she said this is my first $300 bottle of wine. I wonder if it's called Norton great advertising. I hope they send her a case. And I normally would spend 6.99, I'm spending 300, and I'm like, you know, free of these people, let me have my $300 bottle of wine, which she deserves.

And then she kind of made fun of her sister, so people thought. They were going through this thing, and she's doing all her accents. She's like, are we going through a jungle now? Are we, ooh? Maybe I'll be like my sister who's in a jungle who said, bathe me, bathe me, it's all about me.

Referencing that she was on that special forces. And some people thought she was dissing the sister. Other people were like, it sounds like she's having fun with her friends while going to a winery. Probably a little buzz. She's not driving. I don't know. You guys, yes.

I mean, obviously she's completely fine. And there is no issue. She can take care of herself. When we watch the Instagram videos, we just are like, wow, it's been so good that she's out of this conservatorship. She just really. She's flourishing. Flourhip. Yeah, just really she's flourishing

Flourishing well, you know, I mean I it's so it's so hard because you know, I felt so bad I did feel bad for in that conservatorship, which I thought was super brutal, but then you're like she's insane I mean, she's straight-up insane She's well or deranged or whatever it is that a person gets because they've been abused or mistreated for their whole life. I think she's I think she has some problems, but I don't think she needs to be like caged animal. Well, listen, you're probably thinking,

Heather, didn't you meet her? Didn't she film you doing True Bear More? And that is why you got to go to a live show because there is more to the story. It's such a good, it's so good. I do share the full story. Yeah. Wish you well, wishing the Norton Winery invite me. I'll also say that I love your $300 bottle of red wine. And look, she saved $300. She normally spends $6.99 and now she's spending spending 300. Isn't that what she said? Six dollars and 99 cents. Six dollars and 99 cents, oh.

I wonder if she herself got down on her knees, put the sprig of lavender. Yeah, arranged it. Put it in, you're right, it's on the ground. Put it into portrait mode. Put it in, you're right, that photo is like, yes. Maybe she just grabbed that off the website. Well, she's got like three or four people with her.

So I'm hoping if you have three or four people that are getting a free afternoon and you're doing numerous accents for entertainment, I would hope that they would help with the social media posts. Jamie Lee and put the wine on the ground. Come on, let's do it, let's do it. I mean, I don't know, we love Britney so much.

We love her too. And I just hope she's okay. Also had a real fun time. I mean, the glamor. As stage coach, I am slightly crippled, like my hip. I don't even know what I was thinking. Were you dancing? It wasn't the dancing.

It was just the hardcore walking. The walking. The walking of three days of... I mean, I wore boots one day, then I wore boots to the pre-parties with all the celebrities, and then would switch to tennis shoes before we would get in the Uber and go to the actual thing. So I have two days of tennis. It was still so much walking, but so much fun. And I ran into Kristin Cavallari and her hot Montana boyfriend, her little cub. She's a puma. He's a cub. And they were babes. And I got a cute photo. And Peter was like, ooh, he didn't even know who they were. And I was like, you don't understand.

And someone was like, Ooh, maybe she'll get you a Montana boy. I'm like, I have a former lifeguard from Oceanside San Diego via 1988. So I don't think I need your 24 year old Montana boy. Okay. No, but Peter's all the Montana we all need. That's right. He's a lifeguard. He's a golfer. He's a pool expert. He's a pool expert. He's a truck expert.

He's a three wheeler expert, duster expert. He's all the experts we need. Julie literally in her own time, when we're not with you, Heather, she'll just go like this sometimes. She'll just go, I wonder if Peter ever just like looks outside at his truck.

And I'm like, because that's what Julie does. And I'm like, probably. These men. Soul sisters. Soul sisters. It just comes upon across my mind and all throughout the day. I'll tell you, a lot of people are like, would you do stage coach again? Okay.

You know how there was those claw things that go and pick up the little toy from the arcade? If there's a way for a claw just to drop me in my seat for three days and then pick me up and fly me out of there, then yes. Now I know that's an extra ticket, that's an Arnett's Pass, I didn't have those, maybe I would do that. Maybe I would do, my niece did the shuttle,

she said you should do that. But the shuttle drop off wasn't anywhere near my house, but still I wouldn't have to wait for the Uber. How much traffic too? Or we just go to my house in La Quinta and barbecue and stream it from the pool. That's the thing to do. Possibly. Maybe I do that next year.

It was super fun. Peter and I rallied every day. We had so much fun at all the parties. The weather was good. It wasn't too hot. Some years it is. And I love country music. I love country music because I didn't know how to change

the station on my car when I would get off the freeway in La Quinta, and there was a public FM radio station that I found. And that's when I got into country music. And I knew all the songs, and I loved it. Do you have a favorite country artist right now? Right now, it's Morgan Wallen. Now, he's a little controversial because he threw the chair off of the thing.

But out of everybody, oh, there's also this kid, Bailey Zimmerman, who came out wearing a shirt. These younger country stars didn't really dress real country. These Gen Z country stars, they were like tatted up. One guy came out in a shirt that said, I like older women, that's Bailey Zimmerman, that was cute. With just like white, kind of tight shorts. So that was like not a country outfit. Then Hardy came out and he was like a mixed matched outfit. He had like beach shorts on and like a weird golf shirt. He

was great though I knew all his songs. And then Morgan came out in a normal country outfit and this girl next to us, every time he finishes a song, she goes, I want you to sit on my face. Or then she said, I want to sit on your face. Every time, I'm like, classy girl. It was just, it was fun though, it was fun. It's a lot of walking. They need people movers. We did this thing in like, where was Petra?

I don't remember, where is that Jordan? It's this crazy, if you don't know Petra, it's like kind of like seeing the pyramids. Okay. But it was. Oh my God. We got to the front with a guide, and it was a lot of money to have this guide,

but you wanna have a guide, you know? And I had to have my hair covered, you know, cause we were like in the Middle East. And when we got, he's like showing us a map. Wait, did Julie not have to have her hair covered? That's my little secret. But she just pretended she was a man. I will risk it.

No, I'm not fucking covering my hair. Okay, so go ahead. Yeah, so we get up to the, you know, map of the place with the guide and it's like pretty large. And I'm like looking at it and I'm like looking at it, and I'm like seeing the little things that are on maps that tell you sort of like distance. Yeah.

And I was adding it up, and I was like, I'm sorry, how long is this? And he's like, 18 miles. On foot. Total. And I was like- Round trip. I don't think that- It wasn't 18 miles to get to the thing,

it was like when you, because you have to go to there, and there, and there, and there, and back. Well, it was nine miles to get to the main thing we wanted to see and Then it was gonna be nine miles back. Did you do it? Yes, and then we saw people flying by in golf carts and I and I'm in the hot hot headdress and like my hair turned into one big dread and it just was I Will never again do something like that without a golf club. Well, we did the the petty cabs. So partly walking out of the area of Stagecoach, say with Coachella, there's these guys in these or girls in these electric

petty cabs, where like four to six people can fit. And I swear to God, it was like, I do feel like it's the Titanic. Like people just jumping on the last lifeboat to just be like, I don't care. I have a child at home. And I'm just like running's the Titanic like people just jumping on the last lifeboat just be like I don't care It was just Everyone was for themselves. It was out of just that's the business to have this is a Next Coachella, I'm getting an electric petticoat and I'm gonna make myself $50,000 in three days. Yeah. That's what you gotta do. They can charge whatever they want.

Are you watching Baby Reindeer? How did you finish it? Yes. I have not finished it, so don't ruin the ending. I have like one episode off. Do you wanna know how we finished it? Because I didn't like it and Julie didn't like it. So we watched all of the episodes

in a little under an hour. Okay, you didn't like it. Okay. I was at a dinner last night with a bunch of women and there was a mixed reviews for it as well. Everyone told me to watch it. I felt kind of mixed too. I kind of feeling like it's work now to finish it. And but so what I find interesting is about a guy, it's based on two one man shows

that he did about his life. And they kind of combined it into this short series. And the main story is that he's working at this bar and this woman comes in and she's like, oh, I can't afford anything. And he gives her Diet Coke. But then she says she's a lawyer and every day he gives her free Diet Coke. And then she starts stalking him and he finds out that she is a convicted stalker of other things. And they're in England, but he's Scottish, right? Yes. Okay. So anyway, now he, you know, when you write about people, whether it's in a book like

I have or whatever, I've explained this to keep legal happy. They say like, like in my book, you'll never blue ball this town again. I date a bunch of guys. And besides changing the person's name, she's it's like, don't go from Brian to Brad, go from Brian to Paul. And if he's an eye doctor in Santa Monica, make him a foot doctor in the Hollywood Hills. Like don't, or don't even make him a doctor.

Like you have to change so many degrees of things. So anyway, and he also said, don't try to find this woman, whatever. But of course the internet sleuth found her. But she's coming forth and she's upset about the show because the character who plays her is heavy. Not that she was a stalker, not all the weird shit she did. She was just like, oh, maybe if I gain four stones

or whatever the English expression is of weight. And I'm like, look, they're trying to make it that you were different. And it was still someone who was a little off. She's 58, the real woman today. But this happened to him, like in his twenties, and he's clearly more like 40 now. And-

Does anyone know what she looks like or just that she's not heavy? She's just not fat and she's 58. And so she's pissed about that. And she says she's gonna sue for defamation and maybe gonna sue for defamation. So good luck with that lady after stalking him. And now you know how it fucking feels.

I'm glad that some people have found her and she's annoyed. I don't really care. Like you made this guy's life hell. And thank God he turned a hellish experience into art, which was two one-man shows, which then became a TV show. I like the psychology of, I felt like that they should have maybe or could have, one, it should have just been a movie. It's too long.

Two, I like the psychology of you don't like this person and you know they're a pathological liar, but he at least was admitting that his ego couldn't get enough of it. Yes, he's very honest, all of it, so honest. And we do get caught up in that, and particularly, I think, now online. It's like your ego getting off on ego getting off on, you know,

weirdos online giving you compliments, or that's how catfishing happens. I mean, his situation was different because he was kind of getting catfished right in front of his eyes, and it was obvious right from the very beginning. But it was that part of it was really interesting, the psychology of that.

Yes, and then how she's saying, now you're basically stalking me, you're using me for fame and wealth and all this other stuff. Well, too fucking bad. Yeah, bitch. If you enter someone's life, now you're part of my life,

and I can say whatever I want, this experience happened to me, and too bad. Thank God. People, you know, it was interesting. She's an incredible actress, by the way. This woman is wonderful. You know, it's interesting too, after we finished it, it's like he,

so he was trying to be a comedian. Yeah. And working at a bar, his career's not going good. He gets stalked, he gets embroiled into the thing and the ego and then it's horrible and he's being just tortured and then he turns it into the one man show and now his biggest success is due to this experience,

which I think is pretty interesting. Their intertwinement of that trauma. You know what I mean? I don't even know how to articulate it, but I was just like, I thought it was pretty interesting and just something about it was just like weirdly poetic. Yes, I do too. And I feel like comedy is being authentic,

but it's also tragedy plus time. So this happened a while ago and he was able to make something out of it. It's not particularly funny, but it's pretty dark. I don't really think it's funny at all actually. So it's not like even a dark comedy. But it's the honesty and the other storyline about he was assaulted, that is so honest.

Like I've never seen that kind of honesty about the aftermath of something like that for a man. And I think that is also really brave. So- I'd love to see a documentary. About the real thing, that would have been, yeah. I would love that, cause we loved all of the topics and themes and psychology and the things

that we're talking about. But the piece itself was just torture. It was kind of long. Okay, this was from our girl at the pink shade pod. She said, I was featured yet last night. Once again, my second guest role of the year. We were waiting for your for your testimonial. I just want everyone to know, Heather, how what have you gotten out of these two big guest roles last week you're on the valley. And this week, you were on The Valley, and this week you were on Vanderpump.

It's called Little Turkey Sliders, okay? It's called a past app of a tuna on a crust. It's called Free Apps, and just being excited to be invited to something. So yeah, I went both times, and you would too if you were invited to something. So yeah, I went both times and you would too, if you were invited and not just you, I mean the world.

I'm thirsty. And by the way, I am thirsty. What do you think I'm doing? You think I don't want you to watch me right now? Yeah. Don't watch me. I'm just doing this for myself. I don't want anyone to know who I am or go to my shows

or listen to my thing. No, don't want anyone to know who I am or go to my shows or listen to my thing. No, don't like my post. I'm not thirsty. I'm just doing this so I can what? I know. So anyway, so yes, I had fun and I did get Heather and Jenna, Lala's friends. And yeah, but then she wrote, so funny, if I find out next week that Heather banged Jax or went down on Ariana in Tom's car, that would be so juicy. No, I have not hooked up with anyone from the Vanderpump or Valley world,

but yeah, went to that party, went to that birthday. We got a good shot. At the very most intense conversation, a good shot of you just like with your like specialty drink. It's like a Cosmo I think. What's the drink? Yeah.

Slowly taking a delicate sip of it. That's why I wanted the cut, then cut two, cause it was like that and then cut two, we were expecting your testimonial. Like there I was sitting at, Yeah, go ahead. And you're just like among everyone. Okay, well let me do it right now.

Be the producer and ask me anything. I'm just gonna do the camera. About Lala's birthday party. What was it like sitting there while they were having that intense conversation? And you know what, please don't forget to say the question and your answer. Okay. Well, what I was thinking when I was hearing this intense conversation was, let me put my listening ears on because I don't know what they're talking about and I don't want to be accused of being thirsty and chime in and sit between the two of them.

So instead, I think I talked to Logan, who's one of Lala's best friends, and we actually were just talking about some funny shit. And that was the other thing. Like people were saying like at the other one, I was talking to Leo, I think, the two guys that are her like really good friends. And so I'm like, yeah, if I was really that thirsty, I'd be like chasing the camera around. I think the other, the Valley one,

I didn't know was gonna be filmed. This one I knew was gonna be filmed. She told me it was gonna be filmed. And the place was really cute. It was this burlux place, something gin, bathtub gin. And the place was really cute. It was this burlesque place, something gin, bathtub gin. And it was a really fun place to go. And how was the dancers when they came out? Did they? I loved it.

Did they get completely naked? You know, pretty close. No crotch. Pasties. But like just like the pasties with like the tassels and like you know really curvy perfect bodies. So and like it was fun. It's like a fun thing to do and it was a small room. So it's like you really was pretty cool.

But they didn't she didn't have the whole restaurant just that table. Yeah we just were in the middle and there were just real people there. Like I was like are these extras? And they're like no. I'm like what are these extras? And they're like, no. I'm like, what a fun night. And people dressed up like the 20s there, which was interesting, because then the next scene

is they're in San Francisco doing a 20s night, which they were going literally the next day to the San Francisco. But let's talk a little bit about how funny the editors are at Vanderpump. Okay, this was Tom's show. And the way they overlaid his dialogue with his show. Listen, his shows are successful. I don't care what anyone says. They're selling out, people are going, if you hate them, whatever.

And he's like, it's just amazing the energy. And to see people just cheering and yelling and so involved. And then they would take the clip where like nobody was excited. They're on their phones. They're just filming it. Yeah, they're on their phone. And then like, he's like, some of my biggest fans were there. And then like, that's his mom.

And I'm like, yeah, that, of course. Yes. Of course she's going to be there cheering you on. There's Joe behind. Yeah. Oh yeah. And Schwartz. So I can't get enough of Joe and her dynamic.

And I, oh wait, I do have a hat here, hold on. I need my Joe hat, okay. But, I mean, she is, they come out there, and he's like, Joseph, wanna go outside for a minute? And you know, she's so happy that she bleached his hair blonde, thinking that's gonna keep other girls from wanting to be with him. Like that was not, and also keeps clients from you.

But it almost worked. Because he needed to quickly get rid of that hair. Yeah. And so they come out and she's like, and he goes, oh my god, since we had that conversation on the couch and you were like crying your eyes out because you actually really like me. And she's like, that was awkward. That was awkward. That was awkward. And he's like, tell us about her. And she's like, we could just be friends. We could

just be friends. And he's like, I'm excited to go to San Francisco. And she's like, yeah, man, it's gonna be so exciting to go to San Francisco. We're going to San Francisco. And he's like, I mean, we just have this like bad like friendship chemistry, but you know, maybe we just, she's like, or we'll just get married in eight years. Eight years, we get married, we walk down the aisle. He's like, wait, what? You just said we're getting married in eight years. He's like, no, I didn't.

You did. And all I could think about was like, he's going to be 48 if they get, if there isn't, if this show, I'm still watching this this show God bless me if I still have and he's 48 and marrying Joe and then they flash back to wait welcome That's like her way of hiding to like I Have flora form in the car like she's gonna like she's like she's very cute, but she has kind of like these flared nostrils Yeah and really blue eyes. And she's like, I mean, it's fine.

Shortsy, I call him T-Money. It's fine if T-Money doesn't want to be a couple, but clearly we have more gov'n than anyone in the world. But I'll just be waiting here for him. Did you see that she did a live recently? No. No, we heard. She did a live recently and she was just like,

she's watching it and she's like, yeah, okay, I don't really care, but. And like saying things about like Katie and I, I was just like, girl. Oh, like she's watching the show and she's reacting to the show? No, no, she was like, I can't remember. It was like a, like she's watching the show and she's right. No. No she was like I can't remember it was like a stroke like she was doing a live and people asked you This is reading the things the question

They said like did you go down on or something of BJ's or something and she goes yeah, obviously I gave team money a BJ. We're in a relationship Okay I'm like oh oh my God. And then last night we also had to deal with my other worst character. Oh. Hi guys.

Welcome to something about her. It's Anne. It's Anne, the actual Thursiest assistant in all of the world. The world. And hi, they walk in, there's crap everywhere. Yeah, I'm not doing anything, I'm just mic'd up. Fucking clean up the awning, what are you doing? I thought you were working for them now, Ann.

Well, looks like there's a lot for you guys to do. Yeah, that's your job now, Ann. I can't, when Ann and Joe are like, I don't know, they're super villain evil criminals. When Joe first got introduced, they were, her and Tom were at like some taco place or something, it was the first time I met her. And it was like, I thought for sure, hands down,

that person is like in comedy. Ann? No, no, absolutely not Ann. Oh, Joe. Because of she's all doing, she just, her face and she's like- Well doing bits and shit all the time. Just making these, it was just the way she,

her gestures and everything looked like I would have sworn she was in comedy. When they went on the swan, riding the swan boats, and all of a sudden she's like, did I tell you about my pet turtle? And I'm like, oh, so you've been like, literally writing down bits for this moment. And then she said she like walked the pet turtle on a leash

and he's like, you're hilarious. Yeah, and then it went down a drain. And I'm like, wait, this has nothing to do with the swan. Like, where did this story come from? I know it's edited, but like, no, it's okay, Joe. She's got her hat line. She's still cutting hair. But she's not a comedian, is she?

No, but she probably will be. She, Billy Lee, and Joe are the new Trace Amigos. Not Joe, yeah. No, wait, Joe and Billy Lee should be the new Trace Amigos. Not Joe, yeah. No, Joe, Ann, and Billy Lee should be the new Trace Amigos, Vanderpump, peripheral friend style, and they go on tour. Because that girl's literally in improv, isn't she? The like, Ann? I don't know anything. Yeah, like what's happening in the world? Like you're cutesy, dumb, acting like you're so sweet. Like I feel as though she's a short.

I feel as though there's a sinister thing going on with her. We are not big fans of a dorkable. No. That's a literal term in casting. Like, oh, we're looking, you know, a dorkable is like, I'm a dorkable, but I'm a dork. And it's like, just fuck off.

I can't. Save it. I actually don't even want you to be a dorkable adorable but I'm a dork and it's like yeah just fuck off I can't save it I actually don't want you to be adorable no or a dork don't even be adorable either one we're an adult you're not a toddler at the end of the show Sheena has another conversation with Tom and I thought Sheena said some really good things and And she was like about Ariana. She's like, she didn't freeze her egg. She didn't get a house. She didn't. And one thing that was, you know, for herself, she did that because she believed in this relationship.

And one thing that I just think that Ariana in every interview since, the reason she is going to remain successful in my opinion outside of this is she really does handle herself with grace. She doesn't throw people under the bus. She, and she's like, yeah, did the relationship have issues? Yeah, it did. But I was involved in the commitment of it.

The commitment of it was even if we're having some issues and it's not perfect, the plan is we're going to make it work. We own this home together. We were planning a life together. And, you know, whether they're for now the rest of the world to be like, yeah, but they were only screwing this much. It's not you still don't go cheap with the girl's best friend. And like and the whole and that moment. So that was a really good moment. And then when Ariana talked to Brock, I appreciate what Brock was saying, but I loved it when she was like,

I'm empowered by my anger. I'm not gonna stop being angry. And why is it that guys can rage all the time, but I stick up for myself and, oh my God, move on. It's her fucking house too. Yeah. And she wasn't ready to move, and she wasn't gonna walk away

and possibly get fucked financially by it. End of story. Yeah. Brock might have said one of the dumbest things I've ever heard, not for nothing. It's not against him personally. I've never met him. But he literally said, and I said to Brandon,

I think what I heard out of his mouth might be one of the top 10 dumbest things a person has ever uttered out of their mouth and all of humanity that's been but we do like But when he said what are you talking about with male rage? What's male rage? He said give me an example. What what what do you mean? Give me an example of male, right? What an example of male rage are you? Dead are you kidding me? Are you

Dead are you kidding me? Do we not live in an alternate universe? I don't I literally just think that was Just brain fart, I don't know what it was, but I think it was one of the dumbest thing for her But regardless, and I just think she explained herself so well both her and she know so so articulate. Sheena finally, of all of them, had the first breakthrough with Tom Sandoval. Because even Schwartz would be like, just say sorry, man, man, you just gotta say sorry. All those approaches are wrong.

And Sheena finally hit the, because she was coming from compassion, and I believe true love and friendship, and appreciation for all the things Tom Sandoval has always done for her. She finally was able to explain it to him without making him defensive. Yeah.

And just explain why, you know, and he really saw it. And it was like powerful. We watched the scene like at least three times over and over. I thought she came off great. And yeah, she is sad. And she has a right to be sad that this was like her best male friend on a show

for 14 years and she's so disgusted by him and that his side piece tried to sue her, threatened to affect, you know, even threatened like child protective services, type of really low down crap that really fucking stressed her out. So like, no, no. But listen, they are all working together.

So the whole thing is we've got to keep showing up and filming together. And again, Ariana's not sitting out, she's going. She's going and participating. So I don't see what the problem is with that. Like, and if she wants to stay in that house until it was time, now she's out of there. But like, no, she has every right to whatever,

stay in a room, like stop it. I mean, people do this. It doesn't mean like when Lala said, you know, is really this funny, is this, is he really looking at her like, oh, you're the one you left your man of 10 years left your man. She didn't leave her man. He cheated with her best friend for seven months. So that was not cool.

You know, I don't agree with that choice of words left and is still living with him. Get out, get out. It's again, she owns the house as any lawyer, you don't leave the fucking house. Then you've lost all your power. He could, you know, then okay, well, the market's gone down. So here's the equity is now only 100,000, so here's 50. Right. And she wasn't gonna trust that.

Right, well nobody seemed to be also mad at whatever he was doing. You don't know he could've trashed it. You don't know what, so you're not gonna leave. Well why weren't people mad, why aren't they saying the same for him? It's like she got the brunt of, why aren't you leaving the house, Ariana?

Well it was like, well why isn't Tom leaving the house? Yeah, Tom should've left the house. You're the one who cheated you did the shitty thing get the fuck out of the house Yeah, fine. He's got this it's the same issue Yeah, we need where you know, they they own the house blah blah blah blah but for her to get Just like the sexist thing of like The onus is on her to forgive it's on her to move, it's on her to move on, it's on her to... And it's like, no.

No, and then I loved her face because at one time at the birthday party for Lala, Sheena's saying something about Tom or whatever, and our onus face was like, like, she's sitting like, like, why do you wanna be his friend? Like, he doesn't give a shit about you. And as someone who's seen that happen

with a former friend of ours, and people that are still staying around, and people that are like, oh, you know, oh, he feels bad, you should make up with him. And I'm like, this person tried to ruin my life, career, and relationships. I don't believe him, but I appreciate you coming to me with this. But like, no, I don't believe it. No. And that's what Ariana is saying. Like, I think this person has showed

himself over and over and over again, this being the crescendo. Why are you mourning this friendship? Like I get why she's like, why don't you see him for what we all see him for what the rest of the world see him? So, but I feel that Sheena in her difficult position has played it well at least. Oh my God, she put it for any, in the larger scheme for anyone who's been in relationships or been cheated on or cheated or whatever,

to get to a point that Sheena capsulated perfectly the point at which people can come to in order for. You wanna talk about that? That's the moment that she described that people can move, you either can do forgiveness and have, because he hasn't humbled himself. He still hasn't fully apologize. And he's still mad, and he's clearly still mad too.

He gets very angry. He's mad because he was lazy. And he was like, I did this because you made me do it. And I did this for this girl who then dumped me. So he's still being like, woe is me, poor. He's blaming and he isn't taking full responsibility. And it's OK to say these things contributed to the downfall or me feeling, the thing is it's like these things contributed

to the thing that I chose to do. Right. And rather than blaming this person for making me do this, this made me feel demeaned and low and hurt and unwanted and all of that shit, so I went and I fucking did that and that's disgusting. So what I did is disgusting, right? But he he hasn't gotten there yet, but I think Sheena You know, yeah, she said well, she said it perfectly and I loved the the you know, Ariana's saying that that's outdated therapy

Emotions are are part of this and are fine to have for as long as I want to have them. The situation has taught me a lot and we were all three of us and our trace amygas friendship had been, this is something we have been ruminating and discussing throughout the last year about, sex is really hard to talk about in relationships. discussing throughout like the last year about like,

sex is really hard to talk about in relationships. That's, it's very awkward. It doesn't matter how long you've been together. And in general, in any relationship, sexual or otherwise, you know, when your needs aren't being met, it's really, really hard to tell the person. So you don't say anything, and then you build up this anything and then you build up this resentment and you build it up and you build it up and you build it up until you do something that you regret. And even though people, and it's not just cheating and friendships and then the, and

after that person or yourself does the thing that you regret, it's really not going to be that easy if even possible to repair the relationship because the trust is gone. And Countess Luanne de la Seppes said it best when she said, when the trust is gone, the relationship is dead. And it's super hard to get trust back. And so we have made a pact with us, and our trace amigas, to be like,

if we're upset about something, if we just have to say it. And it's. And I've already told you two, I don't feel we're having enough sex. Okay, so just to let you know, I don't wanna do anything. This trouble is in trouble.

I don't wanna have to do anything and I'm gonna try not to, but I am really, okay. No, I mean we definitely don't get to see. Just don't leave us for Ann and Joe. Yeah. Can you imagine? I'm like, Ann, okay. Sorry, keep going.

No, that was a perfect button. Okay, so then we get to the Valley. And the Valley, like I said, is really good. You know, Jax, I wanna say this, because I've been saying it for a while, and he is emphatic that this rumor that is read on a anonymous website where everyone's anonymous, I'm not even going to say the name of it, can just write anything. Oh, you know, and then, oh, did you hear this? Did you see that? I, so-and-so said she saw this. Where's the screen grab? Why don't you send it? And can you tell me who said it? Oh, well you hear this? Did you see that? I so-and-so said she saw this. Where's the screen

grab? Why don't you send it? And can you tell me who said it? Oh, well, it's an anonymous person. Then shut up. Like, that is not, should not be a storyline, that should not be shared out even with cameras on or off that he cheated. And from everything I heard from the beginning of their breakup, when people didn't think it was real, it did not have to do with any infidelity. Now am I going to be proven wrong in a year? I don't know. But right now I believe that it wasn't infidelity.

As someone who's been married a long time with kids and know a lot of people that have been in this situation that have worked through tough times or gotten divorced. It is exactly what they're saying. It's like you don't appreciate each other anymore. You're both irritated. You're nervous about your child. You're nervous about money. So the fact that he is that stressed out definitely lowers the libido and being tired and everything. And also just knowing that that person is going to be there tomorrow. So there isn't a big urgency to bone all the time. And then you realize a long time has gone everything. And also just knowing that that person is going to be there tomorrow. So there isn't a big urgency, right, to bone all the time. And then you realize a long time has gone by and I love the honesty of it. But in this moment where they go have this like special dinner, he's like, I don't want to have another kid right now. And she's

like, but our plan was to and she's a girl of a certain age. She's I think she's over 35. So like, you know so you want to get that going. And with everything they're going through, I think he wants to know the real diagnosis of his child and how... And also, what we're not seeing is that he's also like, is the Valley gonna be a hit or a dud? He's filming the show after being off TV for two years.

He's got the bar. So he's like, I don't know if the bar is gonna be a dud. I don't know if the bar is gonna be dead. I don't know if the show's gonna be a dead. I don't know what's going on with little crews. If this is just a little milestone blip, a little behind, or if it's something more, you know, that's gonna require more funds.

Yeah. And so I'm like, that is really, and I also get her that she's like, well, my plan wasn't just to have one kid. So what are you saying? So I think that their problems in showing it are real. And again, it should not be based on anonymous people talking on the internet.

When we first heard before the show had premiered that they had sort of like separated, I never, ever, ever thought that it was infidelity. I didn't. And that's just Jax. Jax is hot. Every girl, you know, but that doesn't. And that's just Jax, Jax is hot, every girl, you know, but that doesn't mean that that's what it was.

And this show has really, I mean, we saw them, we all did, but we went on, we were on the same flight with them to BravoCon and that was in October. So they split up when, when was that December that we heard? Yeah. Yeah. So she told us they were actively trying to have a kid still and that was in October. If he is not having sex with her,

then they can't have a kid and she really wants one and if he's scared. Yeah, I mean, it happens. She is saying that she feels she's being treated like shit Yeah, and they're just they're having little arguments that are normal like this is too loud in here get out You know, let's get outside and then he's and then she's he's like, do you know where my glasses are? And she's like do you want me to find your glasses? Like we've all been there where it's like too many things like do this and do that. Well, where are you doing?

You know, and it's just it's just domestic getting along, little simple fights. But it's like, so last night, so he told me he was a big hockey fan and my cousin plays for the Boston Bruins. My cousin's son, so my second cousin, Charlie McAvoy. And anyway, he said a while ago, I go, maybe I can get you something for your bar.

So I was going through and I follow little, we call him little Charlie. We call, I'm following little Charlie, his dad is Charlie. So I'm following little Charlie's wife now. And I DM her and I go, any chance you're like a fan of the Vanderpump kids or Jack Taylor.

And she's like, yeah, we all love it and watch it. I go, do you think it's possible, he's a good friend of mine, to get something from that? And she's like, yeah, let me see right now. It's the season, but let me see. So then he texts me, he's like, I'm with Charlie McAvoy's wife. He's at the game and he's like, she's such a sweet girl.

And he sends me a photo of a couple of the wives and him at the game. I'm like, okay, so now is someone gonna say Jax was flirting with the, you know, da da da da at a game with a bunch of hot women? Not at all the case. Literally talking to his friend, this is a relative of mine, like,

but I'm like, that's the way sometimes these stupid things start. And it's just like, ugh, I hate that it's part of what we're watching now. It's annoying. I will say though, and we love Jax, that he also unfortunately has a reputation

that precedes him. Yes. So not just that he's hot, it's that he has cheated. Yes. Multiple, multiple times. Which he admits. So yeah, which he admits and which he says and that I did appreciate when he said it.

He's like, you know, these things are gonna follow me for the rest of my life because I deserve it. But what I'm saying is that because he's hot, which you know, he gets requested on Cameo the most, he's always on the front page. Shout out, we're all on Cameo. Heather got us on. So he's always on the front page.

We could see he has hundreds a day, that's because he's hot. And because he's hot when he's always on the front page. We could see he has hundreds a day. That's because he's hot. And because he's hot when he's out and he's so popular, all the girls want pictures with him. So he either has to say, I can't be photographed with a woman anymore because all the douchebags on the website that won't be mentioned.

Yeah, she did the Keanu Reeves. Yeah. Where you don't touch anybody. Yeah. And it sucks. That particular website, while it can be fun, it is very, very toxic. The only real thing that's fun is when people put up the worst pictures of them ever taken and they're hilarious.

But it's like the website has turned in the gerbil in Richard Gere's butt from a rumor that probably took five years to circulate into it will circulate and be fact in less than 24 hours. And it's nothing but an urban legend. I mean, but it's creating urban legends at like lightning speed that just become fact. Right, anyway, I thought it was really real. Of course, we see what's going on with the other couple. And the other couple is getting divorced.

They're definitely separated. What's her name, Melissa? Wait, is that her name? Michelle. Michelle and the guy. What's his? Jesse. Jesse.

And he has a new girlfriend who is from the OC. And according to some, this is from BravoHolics, but it's from Daily Mail. But from another thing I saw, I think it was Bravo and Cocktail said, the rumor is that, you know, this, one article reads she has, wants nothing to do with reality TV.

She's a socialite from the OC. She's into charity work. And the other one said, on good sources, who knows that she has tried out for Real Housewives twice of OC. Interesting. And they can go, why don't they move to selling Sunset OC and be a real estate couple

and he stops doing real estate with Michelle. Yeah. And Michelle has some new boyfriend who's some like divorced dad, whatever. They went all out to dinner. So. And was it the boyfriend that she had during the show? We don't know if it's that boyfriend or someone else, who's some like divorced dad, whatever. They went all out to dinner. So- And was it the boyfriend that she had during the show? We don't know if it's that boyfriend or someone else.

But I thought, oh, I thought that was really juicy when he goes, you know, this rumor now that's going around that Kristen said that you might have somebody else or texting inappropriately or whatever. We now see that Kristen said she had a boyfriend for a year. He's like, I don't know, I looked back at when you went out with girls and he's like, you know, I have a friend that every time we go to dinner, we have to do the boomerang. So he's like, and all of a sudden you have a girls night and no photo, no margarita boomerang, no anything.

And she's like, yeah, do you like your smoothie? Like it was just like, oh my God. Yeah, I mean, he's seeing it, he knows it. It's his insecurity. And again, I just appreciate the rawness. And then of course the other guy, father, husband of the year with the three kids and the beautiful wife going through postpartum.

I mean, if he could not be a nicer dude, I'm telling you right now, if that guy turns out to be a douche, I can't. I can't. He's too nice. What about her? She is just like a saint. Vulnerable, beautiful, wonderful.

Again, love the fucking honesty of this show. I do wish one thing. I do wish with the postpartum couple, I do wish that they would give her the space to, I wish that they weren't, cause she's crying in just normal conversations and it's so sweet and touching. But it's like, they're sitting,

the producers are sitting them down at the table and being like, okay guys, we're now gonna discuss, you know. At the sushi place? Yeah, you guys discuss Kristen and how nobody wants her around. And then this girl's just like, I can barely get through this dinner.

And I'm like, let them sit and talk about, instead, let her at least have a scene with the other women on the show where she can cry and get it out and talk about postpartum, not just with her husband. Yeah, but she is, I think we're seeing that. I just want to see scenes with her, with the girls about her.

Yeah. Because so far, with the girls about her. Yeah. Because so far with just the girls, it's been about other people's drama. Right. That she's very uncomfortable and very overly sensitive. And she's like, we're leaving, we don't want to be a part of this.

I have to say, when I went to the Valley party celebrating Jack's ball spot, I looked at the people and they were all very nice and I met them all and I was like, who knows what this show is gonna be like? Like I kind of was like, who are these people? What makes them interesting? And just a surprise of the fucking spring is this show.

It really is. And I hope they all stay. And I hope we see them date. I hope we see them co-parent. I hope maybe they're good And I hope we see them date. I hope we see them co-parent. I hope maybe they're good examples of whatever we can come from. Jackson and Brittany are so entertaining as themselves. Like they're funny when they don't know

that they're being funny. And like, I'm just like- Good old accidentally funny. Yeah, they're like, yeah. So it's all good. I will let you say something about Vanderpump. What? Last week was, I thought, super interesting.

I think it was last week. Is that when the James Brunch and then Jax comes, does a little Vanderpump crossover, because James had the Brunch at Sir, right, or wherever. And Lisa's sitting there waiting on Jax, and then Jax comes in and sits down and she's like, don't sit. And he's like, wait, should I not sit?

Should I stand? I'm like, is he already drunk? I don't know. But you be Jax and I'll be her, okay? Hello, Jax. I mean, come on. You go on a podcast and you say I'm superfluous. I mean, well, I've known you forever.

I wouldn't use that word. I don't even know what that means. Everybody knows I don't have higher than a third grade education. Well, I mean, okay, it means that I'm irrelevant. You know I'm not irrelevant. I mean, look at me, I'm opening Wolf. And like, oh, the sexiest restaurant in all of Nevada.

Well you know you you haven't reached out to you I haven't heard from you Lisa you haven't heard you reach out to me or Brittany in years. I haven't heard from you. Where have you been Lisa? Where have you been Lisa? I'm here. I have a little grandchild too and he had a party and I Where have you been, Lisa? Where have you been, Lisa? I've been out, no, I've been busy. I have a little grandchild too and he had a party and I forgot to invite both of you with your child. Makes us feel superfluous. I don't wanna feel that way with you, Lisa.

I have my son. How's your beer cheese? Your grandmother's beer cheese. You mean meemaw's cheese? Yes, I mean, come on. Everyone loves it. Are you gonna serve it in up in Tom Tom? Santa doo doo You can serve me moss cheese it will

That was funny the thing about, I thought that was funny. The thing about that I thought was interesting is that. He's hurt. He's hurt. Well, sorry to interrupt. He's hurt because they kicked him off the show, and he didn't feel like he should have been kicked off the show for two years.

And then he never hurt from Lisa. And now that he's got the valley going, now all of a sudden he's allowed to go back onto Vanderpump. But what I thought was interesting with Vanderpump, and this is where I really hope the evolution of Bravo is gonna let this happen. That was one of the first times that you hear her being like, you said I was irrelevant on the show,

and a superfluous, and then they had to look up the definition of superfluous. He really didn't know that word, then I think they might've played the clip and he didn't say that because he didn't know what that meant. He'd never heard of it. But she was talking about, she's like, I think the only one irrelevant on the show was you. And I think we've made that clear.

And it was all about the show, the show, the show. And they never do that. They always, I think the only one irrelevant and then the friend group is you. The only one irrelevant at the restaurant was you. They never say, they never referenced the TV show on the show. And I like want it to start going.

Remember that was the fight where he's like, this is my show. Yeah. Excuse me, your show. And you know, technically, no, it is, it's called Vannepe Bruels. It's her show. You know, it started because her,

but he was the number one guy in the group. He was. And he was the one that kept it going all these years with his crazy antics and his, you know, from stealing the sunglasses to sleeping with people. But, yeah, so I mean, he's, you know, hurt and pissed by that whole thing. And he, you know, had a difficult relationship

with his mother, so I'm sure he was very close to her for a long time. And then you get kicked off the show and this mother figure doesn't, you know, in his opinion, reach out to him. And, you know, Tamara just said from OC, you know, that Shannon didn't reach out to her when Tamara got kicked off the show. She wasn't reaching out to Vicki when Vicki wasn't on the show. Listen, it's just like if you worked at any office. I was at a very interesting dinner

with a bunch of women last night. And this girl goes, look, once you leave the job, no one talks about you two weeks later. And maybe more, definitely more so on a reality show, if you're especially storyline, they bring up Bethany Frankel, they bring off Rachel Raquel. But the truth is, people don't,

not everybody, a lot of people, that's it. You're not at the job anymore, that's it. And even though our job was pretending to be friends, I don't care, you're not on the job, that's it. And if someone wants to point out, like you weren't a real friend, job or not, yeah, point it out, say it. And they have it with NeNe and Portia too.

When NeNe came back, she had gone on and said, Portia had said, fire NeNe, or NeNe had said, fire Portia too. When NeNe came back, she had gone on and said, Portia had said fire NeNe or NeNe had said fire Portia. And they were like, nobody called me. You were off running around doing the apprentice, leaking your, and you didn't call me when I got put on pause. It always like now with now we all got to be worried that somebody's coming back to the job and at least stay friends with them. Yeah, well, I know. But it's always like, if you get put on pause or get kicked off, it's like you have the ultimate stink on you. And you're also, it wasn't real.

Like the friendship wasn't real when someone just completely blows you off. And you know, I'm not on a reality show, but I've definitely had people just completely blow me off because they thought I had some stink on me. And I was like, oh, okay, we're not on, you know, I didn't know we were on the real house as a podcast thing, but it's true, you really don't care, so okay.

When Jax walked in though to that scene, he, it was, we were living when he confronted Tom or whatever and he was like, how are you, man? Oh, I'm good, man, I'm good, man, how you doing? You look good, man, oh, you look good too, except those white nails, you should probably get rid of those. Like, I was, oh, like, mustache, you just? You look good, man. Oh, you look good, too except those white nails You should probably get rid of those like I was Mustache you so like yeah, and he's like he's like you look better now for a while. You're looking like you're 50

He is so and that just does show that he's the number one guy of the group because he has been his baby You think you got stink on him, but he walked in there and he owned everyone in under a minute Yeah, and that thing with Jack's is that he's That there and he owned everyone in under a minute. Yeah. And that thing with Jax is that he's, that's why he's so great. Yeah. Well, whatever goes on with them as a couple, we'll see. They were at the White House dinner together, Brittany and Jax. Good.

This is an insane story that just came out. It's a very long article from the Boston Globe and it's by Patricia Wen and there was this woman who they found out she was in the seventh grade and she was being bullied. The school found out she was being bullied from her social worker because she was a foster care kid living with her foster care parents and she's being bullied by these other kids because they said, you look old. And the school was predominantly children of color, whatever, Mexican, black, and she was white. And they'd be like white cracks and you look old and everything. And turns out she was 30 and has a graduate degree in social. In fact, she must have looked damn good. It turns out she doesn't look old. She looks very young. Yeah.

And so they go deep dive with her. She came from a middle class home, she went to college, she got a master's degree, she was making over 50,000 a year in social work. And then she created an email account with like one letter off, you know, like edu or whatever, education or whatever social services, one little thing, and then got herself in three different schools and was living with this couple that was like her counselor as a foster kid, which was also inappropriate that that woman would have taken her on. This couple, she said her story was that she was trafficked and a foster kid and she got braces at 30, which then kind of made her look a little younger and she'd wear hoodies

and this and that. And she was then writing letters as her social, what do you call it? Like a social worker counselor and saying that her, you know, she's being bullied by the kids in the school to the principal. And so the principal was like, oh my God, let me look into this. And then when she looked into it, she was like, wait a minute, this isn't the right email from the social worker people for when we have a foster child here. And then some people were like, yeah, you know, we try to be friends with her.

And sometimes we see her driving to school. And like... And it's like the little, the little person that was the Russian... Yeah, Natalia Grace. Natalia Grace, but she's not. And so then they go deeper into the story of like what makes someone want to do this.

And the con artist that pretends to be a child is a whole nother grifter type because they can, whatever they tell you, most people will believe a child that they were trafficked or they were abused or whatever. So there's a new grift of like, if I can look younger, she's not the first one that's done this. There was another girl that tried to be,

was in her 30s, this girl was 32, trying to act like she's in middle school to get attention. Is that all it is? What's the grift? Do they get money from saying? No, they don't really get money. It's the grift of control and attention and maybe wanted to relive your childhood.

So she wasn't doing an experiment. She wasn't writing a book. No, she wasn't doing Never Been Kissed. Never Been Kissed, she wasn't like 60 days in lockup. Or from 13 going on 30, she wasn't doing any of that. But the name that she chose was, one of the names she chose was a character in one of those movies, either the 13 going on 30

or the one where you switch with your mom or whatever. Yeah, I mean, she could have actually gotten switched. Oh my God, what a magical statue. What a Freaky Friday as well. That's what I'm saying, she chose the name Freaky Friday, what happened? What a magical statue. Yeah.

And so her attorney's like, look, she's mentally ill, so therefore, like she should be forgiven. But like her story was always changing, that both her parents died. She was trafficked. She was afraid of people. But she did get to live somewhere for free. Well, yeah, she was living with this couple, but while posing as a child, while also posing as her own social worker, going into different.

And at one point, the foster care dad, they're a little suspicious of him. He then came in and is like, I'm pulling her out of this school, we're going to Catholic school now. And they're like, okay, but there's like a week left of school, like this is so weird. And she tried to get into this other school. Like it is the most bizarre.

And there is this part of like, you know, where you're like, oh my God, if I could just go back, knowing everything I know now and go back, there was those moments when you're like, oh my God, if I could just go back, knowing everything I know now and go back, there was those moments when you were older and you're like, oh my God, if I could just go back in high school. Yeah, you'd own everyone, because you're all idiots. And then just how you think about different things

of what a guy said to you, you're rethinking about, like, what, I wonder if he's thinking about this. Now that I'm raising teenage boys, guess what, they're not thinking about anything. They're notthinking about like, what, I wonder if he's thinking about this. Now that I'm raising teenage boys, guess what? They're not thinking about anything. They're not thinking about you. They're not thinking about you in the way that you think they're thinking about you. They're not.

Like, that is what I've learned. Like, if I knew what I knew now back as a young girl, oh my God, I would, trust me. What's going through their minds? Just food, tits, video games. Yeah, just like. That's it. Yeah, like just.

Whatever. Yeah, okay. No. Yeah. It doesn't matter. I can play Overwatch. Yeah, not like this long, not this, you know, moment from say anything with the,

with the, you know, thinking about you, we have to be together, here's the music. No, they're not. Save yourselves the trouble girls. Yeah, and tell your teenage daughters, they're idiots and they're not thinking about anything. No, just have your fun and move on. They're saying, Besta Bravo took this article

from Daily Mail by Heidi Parker. The scoop is that DeRitte, that allegedly PK has moved out of the house, and that if she does not share the truth about her marriage, she will be either kicked off or demoted as a friend. And then there's other reports that's like, she's already been demoted as a friend. And I don't know why she wouldn't share.

Why not share that you're having trouble in your marriage? Watch the Valley and see why it's good. And if you want out of this marriage, maybe, like this is the way to do it. Let the world know it's hanging by a string. And who wants to grab up this hot patati? Like she could totally get another hot rich guy. I mean, she speaks multiple languages.

She has multiple accents. And it'd be like, you know, she's like, but you know, it's been really hard with Phoenix and Jagger, mind you. But PK, he's just down the street in the Beverly Hills Hotel, and we like to get the McCarthy salad and we have fun and we're working on it and co-parenting. And he's so special that I just want to know. Wait, your accent when I was... I mean, I wonder, one, it made me think too

when talking about the Valley and how much they reveal. It was making me think like the dream of like Sheena and Brock going over there with their two kids. I see the dream dying a little bit for any of these other people transferring over to the Valley because a lot of the people on Housewives and Vanderpump, they are very guarded with their relationships.

And a lot of the stuff they do, even just look at Tom and Ariana, they keep it behind closed doors and act like they have no problems. And even when Sheena and Brock had that little fight in the bikini store, which was chef's kiss, I'm like, just been there, you're like fighting in the middle of like a store

and she's in bikinis, which you're already hating yourself. That's already just, don't even come with me to the bikini store, okay? And of course I'm gonna get in a fight with whoever's there. But she wanted to like him to, she kept saying, stop talking, stop talking, stop talking. Whereas on the Valley, I'm sure they're just like, well, you just keep talking

because this is what we're here for. I mean, that was another great moment where he's like, I want a nanny, I want a nanny, we get a nanny. And she's like, I don't want a nanny. And you know, at this dinner that I want a nanny, we get a nanny and she's like, I don't want a nanny. And, you know, at this dinner that I was at last night, it was all working moms. Everyone was a working mom. Some single, some divorced, single by choice, mom, some married. And we were all and somehow we got on the story of how this woman told the story about how she was working

for this company and it was just so intense and her seven-year-old boy kept you know said today we'll do something fun and he kept coming in and she had to keep working and then finally at seven at night he was like you said we're gonna do something fun and she started to cry about the kid is 20 years old in college and she remembers that mom guilt and I remembered the story of when I forgot the napkins at the school and like and the woman was like, you forgot the napkins and I burst into tears and like all and we're all talking and I said, there is not a table with a group

of men in all of the world having this conversation about dad guilt. It does not fucking exist. It doesn't exist. It doesn't mean they're fucking exist. It doesn't exist. It doesn't mean they're bad dads. It doesn't exist because they're not mothers. And that's like, that's it. You're never going to get it Brock, why she feels this way. And maybe she'll change as summer moon gets older. But like, some people are just never going to be on the same page about something like that with parenting and get and just accept it, you know, as the dude. But we'll see what happens with them. Drew Barrymore had Kamala Harris on. Oh, wow. BP. And people said we that it's going viral because she's getting real close.

It's such a funny clip. So Kamala is there doing her thing, you know, and she's getting so close to the kids. I just feel that the world needs a big hug right now. We need you to be Mama La. Oh. And I don't know if she made up that word or that's what her stepkids call her, right? Mama La. But she was like, oh, yeah.

You know, I always got along with, you know, my children's, my stepchildren's mother, and she said it very nicely. They seem to have the dream co-parenting situation. But it was just people were like, and the comments are like, who cares? Politics aside, no. Just no with the mabla. But I thought it was, I still thought it was a good interview.

Do you think that her people or the pre-interview people or anyone got permission for Drew Barrymore to invade the space? Are her shoes on or off? To sit that close. Yeah, like. I think they know what they're, I think the guests know what they're getting into.

And I think they say, I'm sure you've seen the show, you know Drew's style. If you have like a germaphobe or something situation or invading of the space, we need to know about it now. And if we do, then you probably can't come on the show. Yeah, cause also generally too, vice president or president, you can't even be, you just can't touch them.

Like they have like a distance you need to be from them. And most of these people, I mean, Drew Barrymore sits like that and gets, you know, within kissing distance of people, because she apparently was babysat by every single famous person that's ever walked the earth. I'm like, how is that person your babysitter?

Robert De Niro, I call him Uncle Bobby, was so amazing. We would play Legos. A lot of people don't know that. Yeah, exactly. But you're not friends with Kamala Harris. You maybe have met her once or twice. It's just a little, it's a little-

I think that people are saying, like, have a little more, like it's not- He's a little bit disrespectful. This isn't Cameron Diaz. Yeah, you know what I mean? That you actually are really buddies with. I thought I'm thoroughly entertained by her. I don't care. Yeah. Yeah. And then and then Ross asked, what's your you worked at Mc you know, I worked at McDonald's and you worked at McDonald's and you know, hope to God someone check that out. But imagine if she really didn't work at McDonald's and

she's saying it. But apparently she had worked at McDonald's. And so he's like, what's your go-to order? Which reminded me of the J.Lo bodega saga. And she seemed to answer, well, quarter powder with cheese and fries. Okay, whatever. And, but I was like, I need to know was McDonald's a sponsor of the Drew Barrymore show? Oh, that's a good question. But also Ross is into food and Ross did work was McDonald's a sponsor of the Drew Barrymore show? Oh, that's a good question. But also Ross is into food and Ross did work at McDonald's. So if that was, what a perfect advertising circle. And I don't know why no one's asked Heather McDonald's

to be a sponsor for McDonald's. Oh. Good one. I don't understand why I'm not getting the McDonald's. I do like McDonald's. I think there's a lot of fun, different, healthy choices. I was, Quarter Pounder Cheese was my go-to in high school. And then with the kids, I liked those chicken wraps. Oh.

I love Quarter Pounder Cheese too. Me too, I do too. We're all with Kamala Harris. Best fries and also the best fountain sodas around town. Just got two of them yesterday. The best fountain sodas. Diet Coke. Well, Diet Coke or Coke, but the best,

if you are into fountain sodas, or you. Well, diet Coke or Coke, but the best, if you are into fountain sodas, you're a fountain soda type of person, the best fast food fountain soda is McDonald's. I've heard that numerous places. I don't know why it's perfect. Somebody's, I'm sure there's a TikTok explaining why it's so good. Ariana Bierman, Kim Zolziak's daughter.

This was last week and I forgot to talk about it. But you know Kim and Tamara and Vicky do these clickbait things. That here's one of them right now. This is Tamara breaking news. Teresa confirms heartbreak update with Louis. It could be that his Twitter account was down for a day. I don't know what this is, but it's not that they're broken up. Okay. Do the swipe up. So Kim Zolciak did one with she and Kroy and said, RIP Kroy. Okay. And so of course he's not dead. We wouldn't know about it before her clickbait. And then Ariana, her daughter

did this whole TikTok that like went viral where she was like, I can't. These things that these gen Z's do with their hands like, I can't. Like mocking it, like what are you doing, mom? This is ridiculous. And everyone's like, at least Ariana gets it. And I wrote, Ariana is fucking in on this. Ariana knows that clickbaits pays the bills. This is going to make you click it. It This is gonna make you click it. It's gonna make you click it. I still don't know what it is, though. Someone must have clicked it, finally.

But like, she is in on this thing that her mom does, and these stupid clickbaits. Yeah, she's doing a clickbait with that. Yeah. Her response to it. Yeah, so, so annoying. Polly Short is heartbroken because he looks so much like-'s amazing Richard Simmons. He's been wanting to play him in a movie for years

He's been trying out trying to get it going. Do you guys remember many years ago? There was this actress She kind of disappeared after this. I had to look it up. Her name was Shawn Young and she really wanted to be Catwoman She thought she was great for it She was definitely not at the level of stardom to get Catwoman at the time, because these movies were so big, but she showed up at Warner Brothers without, Warner Brothers, I think, without any audition set,

wearing the Catwoman outfit. Mm. And it was just like a very cringey, embarrassing thing. Now, Polly Short does look so much like Richard Simmons, and he very much wants to play the role. I think he's got to put on those nylons and the shorts and really start doing the impression in places, and because Richard Simmons doesn't want it. So Polly Short is like,

look, it's not gonna be Brad Pitt. It's not gonna be Tom Cruise. Why? And he's like, I'm crying right now. Why does he know? And he's like, I want to do my own movie. Richard Simmons is like, I want to do my own movie. And like, I don't want you to be in it. And I'm all for Polly Shore being him. I want to, but I want to see his impression. Like I want to see him in the outfit. I thought he made a sizzle. Did he make a sizzle? I'm under the impression that he made an actual, and he went to Sundance and, like, tried to, like, get someone to make a biopic about Richard

Simmons. And he made a whole thing. He called up Howard Stern. He was like, I want to be Richard Simmons. Look at my sizzle. Like, he's trying to actively do it. This is the documentary we need to see, Becoming Richard Simmons.

And everything he does and see if it's weird, if it's crazy, if it's funny, maybe the impression isn't that great. He said he would be compassionate, he would really do his best. I mean, the pitch that he has been doing to be Richard Simmons. I wanna see the Richard Simmons story.

I wanna see his childhood, I wanna see when he wore the nylons, I wanna see how he got on all those talk shows. I wanna see when he did the dancing to the oldies, VHS tapes. I wanna see if he got financially fucked over. I wanna see when he went missing and that podcast became crazy

and everyone thought he was missing. Yep. See him hugging all the women, calling all the women. He calls like 50 women a day. He literally sits, gets up, calls woman after woman after woman. And we wanna see her. No, how are you doing?

How's your weight loss? How's your family? How's your health? Wow. Okay. Because even on Howard Stern, Gary said when his mom was going through something and Richard Simmons would call his mom during his list. He

has a huge list and he just calls these women. That's why it's so sort of strange that he's changed with that. I want to see it and I want him to be able to see it and enjoy it while he's on this earth. I don't think it should be after he's gone. I think he should be able to participate in it. I think Polly should, Polly Shore should play the role and they should work together. Well, and that goes along with my thing that I wanna do, which is when I'm terminally ill, say that I die like I have died like two or three days

before I'm probably gonna die. So that I can just sit and enjoy it and then die. Oh, and then see everybody come by and everything? Well, no, not see everyone come by because they'll think I'm dead. Like at the funeral, the headlines, the comments. I'll get to see all the packages that everybody makes and you get to enjoy it.

I mean, because we, I mean. Yeah, you're right. We had a friend pass away, a drag queen, Lady Red, and there is no way that she would ever have known the amount of love and yeah, and fanfare and celebrities and how she affected people. You know, and especially when Richard Simmons knows, but there's definitely a darkness there

and like a loneliness and an emptiness, which, you know, yeah, I want to see that maybe. I want to see Polly Shore getting nominated for an Oscar because he probably would. Yeah. Yeah. Let's make that happen. Now, listen, this is huge. People are sell are now making over seventy thousand a year selling reservations to Carbone and other exclusive restaurants in New York City. This call. So this keep these this girl calls up, she gets the reservation,

she's had to change her name and do different voices and access. And then on a different site, you can buy them. And people like machine gun Kelly and Megan Fox, who I saw over the weekend, Hey, guys. They buy it. A lot of people buy them for $1,000 just to get the reservation because that's where they want to go.

They're in New York. That's the one place they want to eat. And people are able to make this money selling these reservations. And you guys are kind of good at that, of getting the reservations. Yeah. I mean, Mass is really, I always love that, you always need that income stream, you know what I mean?

Yeah, little side hustle. I'm gonna do golf carting at Coachella and I'm about to start eating Julie's Reservation Service. Although I wanna use this too, because if you just want to go there and you're only there for however many days, I mean, we luckily went to like a place in Paris that you couldn't get into,

but like I would spend a thousand dollars to go. Well, it's interesting that they don't even like, normally like a Nobu or whatever I thought always has like five tables saved for like their best people or if a big star does come. But I guess they're so popular that they don't even have it. If you don't have a reservation, you don't have a reservation machine gun Kelly.

You don't have a reservation, you don't have a reservation, machine gun Kelly. You don't have a reservation. We just don't get rid of people. Oh, god, we got to start doing this. Every time I'm in New York, I'm always like, I would like to go to Carbone. I would like to go to Cipriani. I'd like to go to these places everyone talks about. I never do.

Because it's like an impossible thing. And it's not about celebrity that gets you in really. Cause it's so demanding. Which is interesting that you wanna go to Chip Riani's. I mean, it's funny that we have. Is it possible that you might have a reservation? We're gonna sell it now. Unfortunately, we're gonna be selling that.

Meghan Markle's dear friend, Sophia Trudeau, the wife of the president of Canada, they used to be very good friends. And recently she was asked about a relationship with Megan who she's not mentioned or taken any photos or anything because Megan had the stink on her. And she said, I know her.

That was it. Tell us about you and Megan's relationship. And she goes, I know her. So there's either who, I don't know them, or I know him. Yeah. Is the new response of no response. That's great. It's almost better than, who are you talking about?

I've never. What was the Mariah Carey one? I don't know her. The Mariah Carey one is I don't know her. The Mariah Carey one is I don't know her. And now this is I know her. Yeah. Yeah. Or like, do you know Jennifer,

what do you think of Jennifer Lopez? I thought she just went, who? Oh, and then she said, I don't know her. Yeah, she said, I don't know her. But like, oh, who? Jennifer Lopez, she's a singer. Oh yeah, I know her. Yeah.

Speaking about scooping everything that was going around this weekend that was not true, there was a story that said Chelsea Heller was going to join Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. And so many people said it to me. So many different bloggers and stuff picked it up. And it either started, it just started, someone just said it. Some random person just said it, some random person just said it, made it up on the internet, on one of these platforms,

and you know, and they're like, oh, and everyone's like contemplating, I'm like, someone just anonymously saying something should not be news, like there's no, nope. It's just, and all these people got their clicks and got to post it, and then she put it out there the next day on her stories, not true. She spent a whole day getting nothing but free publicity.

So I started thinking maybe she put it out. Oh. Because everyone was talking about it. That's why I didn't send it to you, because I knew you were at Stagecoach, fucking hobnobbing with Kristin Cavallari. And I was like, let me not bother Heather with this bullshit. I'm sure her phone is already blowing up.

Well, I say never say never. You never know. You never know where someone's like, fuck it, I'll do it. Whatever. I mean, my first thought was like, no way, because she never even wanted them on the show. And I was like the only person watching it and dying for it to do it, writing the parodies, anything

that we could have them be on. I was so thinking like this, you guys, you don't realize how funny this is and how weird this is. And she just wasn't into it at all. But doesn't mean she maybe couldn't get into it now. I mean, it just wouldn't make sense. And I think it would be beneath her at this point. But who's to say in five years?

You never know. Yeah, she's not bi-costal, right? It's not like you have to be married or have kids anymore to be a housewife. That's not even a part of it. She's not bi-costal. Okay. She would be better on New York than she would be. It would be so weird for her. There's no way that she would just sit back and play along. It would be so fun to watch. It would be so fun to watch. The Swifts. Oh, the Swifts,'s as if she's gonna just take her name. Travis, Kelsey and Taylor Swift were in Carmel

with Bradley Cooper and Gigi enjoying a fun time. And it was his mom who spilled the beans while selling some stuff on QVC. Always wait, was was it Travis, Travis Kelsey's mom or Bradley Cooper? No, Travis Kelsey's mom. Uh huh. And then they went off and now she's going on another trip with him and if Brittany Mahons are doing another double date with this other couple. And then I came across this couple, Mark Consuelos confesses to Kelly Ripa that he recently kissed another woman. Talk about clickbait, E! News. Apparently on the show, he says all this and it was his grandmother on her cheek.

Oh, God, I hate when they do that. I hate it. I hate that. And some of the comments are so funny. This person wrote, what saddens me is that this used to be a real power couple in the entertainment business. They kept their family and relationship private for years. Now they're looking for the public to ruin their marriage by talking nonsense as a joke.

Just look at Kyle Richards and Mauricio. Can't see myself being married for almost three decades and throw it all the way for years for a fake storyline that will hurt my children and family all for the views and attention." That's just this girl, Sammy Lopez, 4158. But I just thought, I don't really see them as a Kyle and Mauricio. But look, he, you know, it ended with Ryan Seacrest. He became her partner on the show. And they must, the producers must be like, this is

what gets people watching. They love your banter, they love this and that, but it is so annoying hearing about their sex life or that they were cheated. This isn't cheating, but it's not a lie. He said, and I guess the way he revealed it was, people were like, what? And it was like, my grandma. I hate that joke. I hate that joke across the board.

I can't stand it. It's the same joke, and it's the same family joke, the same family of jokes as, here's the most beautiful woman in the world, I can't get enough of her, my mother. Like, just cut the shit. You didn't kiss another woman, the most beautiful in the world,

isn't your fucking grandmother, that whole thing is so cheesy, so corny, I can't stand it. When I tell you, it sounds irrational, but I loathe it. Like I loathe it, I loathe it. It definitely sounds irrational. I loathe it as a bit, I loathe it as a piece of comedy, I loathe it as a cutesy thing to do. It's like, you're not cute.

Cause you said you kissed another woman and it's your grandma. I can't take it. I hate its guts. I'm telling you, it's a dorkable. It's yeah, it's a dorkable. Well, here's our last little bit of scoop. Yes.

So Barbara Streisand commented under Melissa McCarthy's latest post saying, you look great. Did you go on Ozempic? And everybody that attacked Barbra, how dare you? Melissa has said, it doesn't matter. I love her. Who cares? Other people are like, yeah, she did.

But also, not your business. So what's your opinion? Also clarification, the actual comment was, say hi to Michael Shankman. Are you on Ozempic? Yeah, and no punctuation either. No punctuation. You didn't even put a period. That sounds like something Cathy Hilton would do.

You know what Cathy Hilton pretended not to know, that by commenting wasn't her daughter's text? Yeah, and which is what that's- Like she's like, oh, I thought commenting under something was texting you. No, you didn't, Cathy Hilton. Well, that's what Barbara Streisand basically said. Barbara Streisand's 82, so I believe

Barbara Streisand more than. Yeah, and I believe she just, it's like when, you know, people do it, they think they're sending a DM and they accidentally do a post, like, you know, that's how like Anthony Weiner got caught cheating on his wife. But like, she's like, for a second, she just like thought she was in the DMs and was in the comment section.

She, Barbara Streisand is every Jewish mother, okay? For a second she just thought she was in the DMs and was in the comment section. Barbara Streisand is every Jewish mother, okay? If you don't think that any Jewish mother is gonna be like, say hi to Michael, are you on Ozempic? Thank you, yes, that is life. Well, it's working for you. It is everything, it is everything. And Melissa McCarthy is so lucky

that she has that for the rest of her life. Yes, Barbara Streisand said Are you honest? I think I would die. I would die Love Barbara so I don't care. She can say anything she wants. She's did memories Like the corners of my mind of you in that green dress Melissa Are you on Oh Ozempic? I know I don't sound like her, and I'm not trying to do an impression. And yet I closed my eyes and I said, Zabapa?

Who's that songbird? Who's that citrus? If we could all have it once again. Yes. Did Melissa McGard the answer? Could we? Should we memories? Yeah, she didn't answer her there, but recently a reporter went up.

She's like, we're great. Like, leave it alone. We're fine. And the answer is yes, she is on a Zephyr. Yes, of course she is. Obviously, as we all would be, or if we could. At this point, just stop asking. Yeah.

Because if you're breathing, you're on it. You know what's interesting is that- You know what Ozempic is? If you're not on the actual Ozempic, you're like, no, I'm not, because I'm on, we'll go right. I'm on semi-glue-tide. When somebody would say back in the day,

are those acrylic nails? And they'd say, no, because they're mine underneath. Yep. No, those are acrylic nails. Yes, exactly. Of course they're going to grow underneath. They're going to make a hard shell on top top We have seen the growth in the last year. We've watched ozempic and whatever whatever Yeah, go brrr and the level of weight loss that we've seen from

Hundreds of thousands of people who have lost weight due to these weight loss drugs. However According to all of them None of them are on it. Yeah. So it's just an odd thing that we are now living in a time when all of these weight loss drugs are around. Everyone is this miracle drug. Everybody's losing weight. We're watching everybody lose weight who don't work out and then or whatever.

Or maybe we're never even thin. We're never even thin. We've always had a weight problem and now we're're skinny, but they don't do Ozempic. They stop drinking and they work out now. Fred DePratt said the greatest thing. He's like, I love that this can also be a way to hide more severe drug use. Like, how did you lose 50 pounds?

Crack, heroin, meth? No, it's Ozempic. Better slow down. Like, who knows? Like, who the fuck knows? It's kind of great. Girls, tell everybody where they can find you besides this Friday night at the Scottsdale show with me.

Yeah, most importantly. HeatherMcDonald.net. Yep, HeatherMcDonald.net. And so some of my friends in Scottsdale are going. What about friends? That's so great. I know, there's not many. And also they live out of town.

So that's the kind of friends I like to have that I don't have to deal with them in town. But I have to deal with them that night. But basically I had sent, when I was drunk, like just a link from the internet. Like I just Googled Heather McDonald's show, you know, Scottsdale, and I sent the link. And then the next day you sent sent heathermcdonald.net to me,

and so then I realized, oh shit, like, they're gonna end up spending so much more if they don't get the tickets from your link, from the website, so I immediately texted her, and be like, oh my God, you gotta go here, and then she was like, yeah, I saw those two prizes, and I was like, girl, and so I was like, oh no, yeah, send, I was like, and I I saw those two prizes and I was like, girl. And so I was like, oh no, yeah, send.

I was like, I told her, send people to. And for all my dates and for everything going on, the next one after that is Denver in which the girls will be joining me. That is at ComedyWorks in Denver and that is May 17th and 18th. Then we have Temecula June 1 with Chris Frangiola. We have, let me say,

then I'm in Tampa, Orlando. I have San Diego with Julie July 27th. So then I do a little Texas run, a little East Coast. Las Vegas with the girls, September 21. Perfect time to plan your girls weekend. Your kids are back in school. You are done with them. You're like, I need a little breaky poo. Girls weekend. I'm going for JuicyCon weekend. So there's no BravoCon weekend. There's JuicyCon weekend.

Or go as a couple. Of course. Everyone loves it. Everyone loves it. HeatherMcDowelland.net. And of course, to listen to your podcast and find everything Brandi and Julie related. Julieandbrandy.com is the best place to go

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