Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Brandy and Julie on Summerhouse Bombshells and Paid Reality TV Boyfriends

Episode Date: June 11, 2026

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To the number one tabloid real life podcast Listen in, listen Heather McDonald's Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have two of your favorite gals, the comedic duo, the politically charged, stars of the podcast, dumb gay politics. And welcome Brandy Howard, Julie Goldman. Thank you.

Welcome back to Juicy Scoop. Now, for the people that are not watching on YouTube, you're crazy. And if you don't subscribe and tell a bunch of people, I don't know how much longer I can do this. Okay? So get on the YouTube. Because Brandy is in a very cute outfit, but it's an unusual look. It's a onesy. Is that a particular Muppet or something? What is that thing? It's a person? That is a goofy onesie that I found. It's called Goofy Woonzy. It's nobody famous. It's no famous Muppet. We're not going to be sued for using it. She bought it for me for no reason, by the way.

Okay. It was just a gift. But it worked out perfectly because a lot of people are going to be like, why does Brandy, though I can only see the front of her face,

look so adorable today. And do you want to share that you had a little something done? I had a lower face and necklift. I had just been saying facelift, and then I think that makes people think of like a different thing.

Yeah. Because I guess a facelift is your whole face. Right, where they pull whatever. Yeah. Whatever anyone wants to get. Yeah, of course. And I'm sure, and I'm eventually going to do that. But I've got a lower face and necklift.

The sides are still swollen and bruised. And I'm not going to reveal those until we come back from Australia and do juicy scoop again. And you guys are going to Australia because Julie has gotten a legit acting job. So we hope. There's a lot of scams out there. I know. What if we show up and they're like, take your shirt off? It's Patrick and Paul and they're pretending they're having you as an agent.

And we're like, here's our 15,000. They ask for their money when we get there? Yes. God. And so I love that. And you look great. Thank you. It'll be fun.

Well, Julie took care of me. And I'm just going to. Yes. We have another person that's had some more. work done. She took me to... She took me to the doctor for the procedure. She picked me up.

She's taken me to all, like, the checkups and the stitches removals. All my stitches are not out. Again, I will be doing the full reveal here on Juicy Scoop and probably like, I don't know, two weeks. A fabulous. Her dog is named Freets. This one that if you're watching YouTube, you can see. Although we have Maverick and Goose, which are cat and a chihuahua.

And then we have Mighty and Dumpling. So there's, there's, there are many animals around. Goose is, I mean, Freetz is very codependent. Okay. And he likes, he's a head sleeper. I was doing a lot of, I took over Julie's king-sized bed that she got from Megan. Okay. And Julie was just busing around, doing her life.

She literally went out. Like at one point. She's like, I'm going out to dinner. I'm like, okay, I'll try to like, wipe myself. Anyway. So the dog. I take your fun. Yeah.

The dog was on my head all the time. Which felt kind of comforting. Yeah. He's a head sleeper. He looks like Kurt Russell. And I was on a lot of pain pills just for fun. Yes. And I've had a recurring romantic dream about Kurt Russell.

And I'm not lying about this. They are not, hadn't told her, they're not sexual dreams. Okay. But I'm romantically involved with Kurt Russell in the dreams. Could also have been the pain pills. And it's definitely frets too because. What happens in the dream? We're kind of just like doing couple stuff.

And then maybe we're having a couple's argument. And it's probably with him pressing on my head too much. Yeah. Because there's Kurt Russell on my head. So he bobs around and that's probably been the highlight of the recovery. I think this dog looks like Chubaca. He does. He does look like Chubaka.

Very cute. And the face right now is really Chubakking out. Well, I'm excited for you guys. Unfortunately, you will not be with me this weekend for our desert slut weekend. I know, that we always were planning that we love to do around my birthday. It's definitely a disappointment. I had to find other friends. It's so annoying.

Luckily, I had a few, some old and some new. Great. And I'm excited. They're coming. And then you guys, gay me, no. Oh, gosh, you really are going to be desert sledding without us. Oh, yeah. It's just the way we like it.

Damn it. And so, and I got some really cute things for the pool. Oh, did you get some floaties? Yeah, you're going to die when you see. the floaty I got. And so, but we can go again. You know,

you like it hot. You can come. We can go again another weekend. The girls got me the cutest gift, which I will highlight. I don't want to be that

woman that unboxes real Chanel stuff. And then is like, here's to all the bitches that said I couldn't be anything. Said I didn't have any rich bitch friends.

I don't want to be that girl. Okay? Because I don't think it's necessary. I don't think it's necessary. My riches are, have nothing to do with what goes on my feet or the empty boxes that are desired that I display in my closet. Okay, nothing to do with that. But so sweet, so nice. And we are friends and we will remain friends. And some people are very confused by that. Well, we were, we are sad. We're going to miss your birthday. It is Saturday or Sunday? My actual birthday is Sunday. Sunday. You have a million fans.

We have 14. And those people combined are real and there. And they get it. They see our hearts. We do the show. We've been doing it for a million years. Literally, the first time we ever did it was in 2015. And we've been doing it regularly since 2020.

You are one of our closest and dearest friends. And there are, besides our 14 and your one million, there are going to be several hundred thousand people who hate watch and hate listen. and for them, good for you. It's fun to hate watch stuff. But I want to say, like, we love you from the bottom of our hearts. You know what you mean to us. And I want the people to know, and your fans truly do,

but you are truly so kind and so generous, so loyal. But above all, your most annoying personality characteristic and quality is how forgiving you are. And you are truly the most forgiving person we know. And we, um, we, cherish our friendship with you and I'm not going to have these motherfuckers trying to ruin our relationship. There's been some problematic housewives who tried to come between us. There's been some hateful, hateful radio hacks who tried to come between us and nobody's going to. Nobody's going

to because we're real true friends. So everybody needs to carry on. Carry on and happy birthday have. Love each other like this dog, which by the way, this photo is a bit of a catfish even though he's a dog because I have seen other photos of your dog and this must have been like straight from the groomer he did yeah well you know very very cute the hair's getting better I know we've talked a lot about Summerhouse

but how can we not so the conclusion of reunion part three has happened and boy there was some juicy stuff that came out it gets revealed that West had a girlfriend named Miha

that he had for like a year that was at home putting together his IKEA furniture while he was filming in the summer house. That's a good catch. And so she's, yeah, she's handy. And she's very cute. And she was told that they were exclusive, but they were not public because he said, if it'll hurt my chances to remain on the show if I have a relationship that's not within the show.

Basically saying, if you see me with Sierra or anybody else, that's all for show, in my opinion. that was it. Meanwhile, Amanda's hearing all this. Andy asks him, are you on something, beta blockers? And he said, actually said, yeah, I did take some. But Amanda who can barely talk, he doesn't ask her, because I guess he just feels like he doesn't want to be that guy that asked the woman. But clearly, they're both on something. You know, unless there's a rule before they get, unless, they may start drug testing these people now because they want them to not be comatose. And they want them to be in the moment, but you cannot blame the two of them for what they're walking into clearly the lion's den, and I'm not defending them, but you can't blame them to have access

to something like this and their nerves are going crazy. I know people that take a beta blocker on their wedding day. Oh, I take them before auditions. Yeah, auditions and everything. I found out at the very end of auditioning what they were. If I had taken them earlier, I wouldn't be sitting here. Exactly. I'd be on a series, okay? And it does nothing except block your like adrenal gland so you're not shaky. Yeah. Only reason I ever even found out about it because I was like watching weirdly and ironically the Michael Jackson trial.

Yes. And I was like, wow, he sure doesn't seem stressed out. I want whatever he's using. And my doctor lied and said it was beta blockers. And I was like, I found out, of course, later. Well, I'm glad it was the other thing. Was it, Propapol? Yeah, they got you to go get that.

You wouldn't be sitting here either. No. And beta blockers are truly harmless. I felt like they were probably on Xanax and more power to them. I mean, let's all remember fondly when Ramona fell asleep. The true hero of the Xanax before the reunion. I will tell you something right now. You know what?

You look great. Okay. You know, I had a little face. What time I was on the reunion? And, you know, they basically called me out. And I was like, you know what? Just because I'm 49 and I look like I'm 19, doesn't necessarily mean that I had anything dead.

And if I did, who's business in it? Exactly. So, yeah, that you all see. But in clearing all that up, tell me, because I've talked a lot about it. So let me get, what is your overall opinion of this relationship? Who, what were the worst things they did?

What are the things that should be forgiven? And what are your kind of predictions? I kind of just want to get your guys' opinion on that. Well, I just want to remind everyone, they're doing after the aftermath. So I want to know. So at the very end of it, they show a preview of them,

which now is basically the city. So they're at each other's apartments. And they said, this is a bonus episode. Do you have any clarification of when these little scenes that they're teasing, which is West telling Kyle,

I am in love with Amanda. And that's one scene, shocking. We're going to see. We're also going to see Lindsay with Amanda where Lindsay said, he said, meaning West, says you're obsessed with him. And she's like, what? And she's like, he's got to go, says to Amanda.

So was that shot before the reunion or was that shot after the reunion? We don't know. We don't know. But I think it was after. But it was definitely not recently. Because now they're in Italy and she's like spitting Lemoncello in his mouth or something. Yeah.

Just to be cute. It's the only thing getting Julie out of bed. Okay. except when she leave you and go out to dinner with other people apparently. And talk about Summerhouse and get away from you. I am obsessed. I could watch it 24 hours a day

on repeat, nonstop. All I want is to watch people come for West and Amanda. I don't ever want it to end. I want it to keep going. I love, I want them to be questioned. I want her to go and then cry and not talk.

I want him to not support her. I want him to show that he's not in love with her. I want him to constantly show that he's a using misogynistic sexist piece of shit. I want her to be the used-up unfortunately weak. I'm

thinking of a term, but I'm not going to say it's too gross. And I just won't stop. I can't quit it. They're like broke back mountain for me. I can't quit them. I want to talk about a couple kind of bombshell type moments. They take a little break. Amanda comes back and she goes and

immediately hugs Kyle, her soon-to-be-ex-husband. And he goes, you look really hot. And he starts to cry. And he said, I just don't want people to think that our whole relationship was all bad. Now, he said no needs were being met for four years. I don't know if that means, you know, we once in a while did it, but it was not, you know, a... Or did they really, really not have any... kind of intercourse after they got married. So the only sex that happened was before. They both said it. So they

ended up getting married the way some people do and that they're like, it's here, it's now, but we're in a bad place. We're going to go for it. And of course, it's their career too. I mean, this was their career was being on this show. And they wanted to be like Craig and Page. Well, they were, but they were before Craig and Page. Craig and Paige were at their wedding. They were huge at their that time. I think that was part of the career part of it. Because they weren't even, yeah, being intimate. And they both said it, like, how long's it been? And they both knew since we've been married. I just want to say this. It's mind-boggling. For Kyle, particularly for a guy, to hang in there for, let's say it is four years, not having sex at all. Now, he made out with people, and I think

he did do a little like here and there, I guess, while he's partying. But who could blame him? If you feel Like you're not being, you're not, because that is also, you feel unloved, you're not being, you have no affection, there's no romance, there's nothing. Well, of course you're going to go out and try to feel something. Okay, but we also don't know that he may also had not complimented her, not tried to have sex with her, which is why when the first person. You could see it on the show, though, him constantly trying to have sex with her. Yeah.

Oh, so that wasn't the case. Yeah. I think he was like, I don't know, you know. And then why? so she was not attracted or wanting to punish him or whatever their dynamic was. They just weren't feeling it. She just wasn't in love of them. They weren't incompatible.

I don't think she was into him. No. And I think like on the show, anyway, on the show and who knows what's real or whatever, but just from the show, he constantly was crying about them not, them not having sex is him not feeling in any way loved. He's still very in love with her. And he's totally in love with her. to stick it out and hang in there

and then sit there at the reunion while your person you're in love with is sitting with the guy that she's with currently. Ugh. My God. And he's crying. What are the other bombshells?

Yeah, what are the other bombshells? So here's some bombshells. Okay. Reality blur was nice enough to quote what Wes said on his podcast. He addressed this just this week. The comments, he said, one of the most

because the other girl said, you're just a clout chaser. That's why you went after a man because her star was rising. Yes. As the woman who was strong enough to finally leave Kyle and you launched, lobbed on her. And I do believe he wanted influence her contracts and brands too. Yeah. He said, wouldn't the most clout chasing move be to like date Sierra? That would clearly benefit me more than any other decision I've ever made, he noted.

He then fired back at claims of being super calculated. If I was calculated, I wouldn't be in this fucking mess. I'm in this mess because I've made mistakes and like fucked around too much. If I was calculating and trying to do the right thing, I would have just dated Sierra, he explained. That will never make sense to me, but people are angry and have shit to talk. So that's what the reunion is for. I mean, pretty, I think that's a pretty good response on his part. I would push back on that.

I also think it's kind of rude about Sierra, but Sierra has gone hard. after both of them. So at a certain point, you got to, you know, you get punched so many times. At a certain point, you're going to be like, I didn't really want you that much, you know, like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry that I shouldn't have played with your emotions. But the truth is, he wasn't in love with Sierra, clearly. He's not in love with anyone. He's in love with himself. By the way, I just want to say by being calculated, you can be calculated to do the wrong thing. And that's what you do, sir. You calculate to do the wrong thing, not the right thing. And that's why what you're saying there is bullshit.

So then he goes on to say, regarding his co-stars monetizing off Scamanda, Oof. Wes said he didn't really give a fuck after Amanda made it clear during part two of the reunion that she found it hurtful when referencing an ad co-star Lindsay and Carl did. She said that that's something that she would have never done to them. He said, West said, that's what the show is. That's what everyone does. to me, I'm kind of like, oh, if you guys are making jokes for money out of it, then you seem to be doing okay.

I'm never going to, like, cry about someone else is making money, like, you know, the whole reason for the show exists. Again, pretty good, Wes. Better than Tom Sandel. But he's also kind of saying, if you're able to joke about it and make money, then don't act like you were so distraught that two of your friends did a deceptive thing in the group and the, oh, we can't. live. Oh, but we'll do a Carl's Jr. commercial, like, whatever it is. He's kind of like, yeah, go make your money, you know. And the same thing happened with Scandival, too, where... A million. What do you want? Everyone's got to make their money when they can because it may not be, the offer won't be there tomorrow. So I thought that was pretty good.

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I follow her. She was nice enough to watch it on Peacock and see the extended version and let us know the real reason he was crying so hard that they wouldn't show us in the Bravo edition. What? This was to stay up until 3 in the morning? Wait, what is it? I mean, we thought we knew. It's that he had a friend, a very good friend, just this past summer. that started hooking up with Jesse's ex.

Jesse's best friend male started hooking up with an ex-girlfriend of his and lied to his face about it. And so him sitting there and seeing the same dynamic play out where there was lies and deception is what caused him to be so triggered and cry about it. I got to tell you, these fucking guys, okay? These fucking guys, man, I'm not saying no one's perfect. To each their mistakes and their whatever. That's not what I'm saying. But these motherfuckers who go around using women like it's their full-time job and then sit there and cry, it drives me crazy. And it's also what keeps me watching.

I can't quit it. Jesse, who I think is probably a nice guy and he's on tour with his songs and all of that, which, and he's trying to show that he's not like West and he's a good guy and he's whatever. He also uses women. he also treats women like shit he also like drags them along and says to Sierra if we kiss it be a joke and I do wonder if this is going to change him a little bit maybe he'll grow up a little bit

but all of these guys except for Kyle treat women like they are disposable expendable fuck dolls and it is infuriating he said on watch what happens live last night that which I, unlike Dame Gala I did take one for the team and watch, watch

what happens live. And he said that he went home and continued crying. He was like weeping at one point like he couldn't stop and then he just couldn't turn it off. When I saw all the crying and this friend grew up and this, I thought

he saw money going down the drain. I thought he was crying about this probably won't be to stay the same for next year. And I might get the boot because I have the friendship and what if they just go for a whole new cast? I thought all of them were giving that energy. And like I think it was more about that.

The same thing with Scandival when Lala was like, you're taking food out of my kids' mouth. Like this is get out there and have that conversation on camera with Tom Sandoval. Even if you don't want to, you should just do it for all of it. Like you should do it for the show. Yep. Like, you know, and she was like, no. And it's just such a fine line of what's for the show. Yeah.

Mm-hmm. Who also employs your friends. Right. And then your own life and your own respectable, you know, respecting yourself and relationships. So, I mean, that, and that's why we watch it because it's so blurry. I was getting a lot of vibes like that. That's true.

Like our friend group, this could destroy our whole friend group, meaning the show. Yeah. Yeah. All that double speak. Like careers are careers. And then, like, Lindsay has two sips of a pino grigio and comes back and is slurring like Ramona. She's like, ah, Andy! I don't think we've learned one thing.

And he's like, what are you talking about? She's like, I don't think we're learning to think. And I was like, and then thank God she's on the beta blockers, Amanda, because she's like, well, exactly. It's amazing. Like, we've sat here for eight hours. I've told you everything. And then finally, Amanda's like, look. I did not think it through.

I was a horrible front. You can't say you didn't think it through. No. You can't say you didn't think it through. You got to just say, you know what, Sierra, I didn't care. That's right. I felt, he hit on me and I felt good and I wanted it and I chose me. I chose me what I wanted, what was right for me. And I pushed the fact that what I was doing was really fucked up.

at that time I don't care and quite honestly maybe I don't really care right now I don't think she does Just be honest Just be like I don't really care right now We had a fun friendship It's not gonna go any further

You were a good friend to me But what am I supposed to do You're not my sister You're not my mom We hung out a few summers on TV Like he wasn't your boyfriend At a certain point Amanda's got to be

He really wasn't that into you Like he's into me But then they're like Yeah but he also has three other girlfriends And she's like And I'm well aware of that And you know that's what it is. I thought the only thing that seemed like it upset her is when she went back and had to be in the blanket, which who am I to talk? Because I'm in this onesie. Yeah. But she was all under the blanket, like eating the cat catering. And by the way, which looked pretty good. Yeah. Blanket looked. I love like a smothered chicken breast. Yeah. On like a set where you're like, this is so good. And you think you're eating healthy, but it's probably has like 12 pounds of butter in the sauce. But anyway, go on. Totally. She was she was not upset about anything except for everything they said about West. All of his.

girlfriends. They're trying to make me not trust you. I'm like, that's her trigger. All she cares about is like when she gets information like, yeah, we made out and she finds out information that she didn't know, she starts to like go. Yeah, yeah. And like, and you're like, oh, okay, that's the only thing that's waking her up is like, because that's all she cares about is sitting there is West.

The other thing. She never apologizes, not really. Like neither of them do. No, she's like, you don't deserve a friend like me, meaning I'm a shitty friend. And then when they go, we're going to do the Girl Scouts, thin mince or whatever, instead of a cocktail.

And, you know, Wes, you know, goes to eat it. And she goes, and I love that they shared this part because you already get like, girlfriend be bitching. Yeah. Girlfriend. Yeah.

And she goes, don't eat it right now. We're supposed to toast. Meanwhile, everybody, including Andy, is chomping away as he's reading his last card. And he's like, I would have liked the cookie. Like, it's just. West is literally texting girls and sending his dick pick out

while they're doing the reunion. Can I tell you the whole reunion? He's literally on... The whole reunion, Julie's like this. He never gets off his phone. I don't know who he's texting, but he's on his phone. Julie's paying more attention to him than Amanda.

I'm so... I am eagle eye on him. And listen... So what's going to... Go ahead. I just, it's just like... It's the thing in Tootsy where it's like, I see you.

I know you. I know exactly what you're doing? She also, by the way, what about when they were at that? game and she was like act like you like me she's definitely doing that thing where she's controlling you remember when they were at the game and she said act like you like me they put them on the big screen and they were going oh yeah and they read her mouth yeah and she said act like you like me and so and she's she's like that and they were art kind of arguing they were out yeah right after it's like

that was like the first thing i also was thought it was gross that she at at one point came out late like everyone was waiting for her and i just thought it was she was just it was it was a re-of entitlement and I believe them when they're like we're figuring it out I do believe them because at this point they're kind of probably like

let's not put a label on let's continue to screw and have fun let's go to Italy let's see if we can be a couple and if in a couple months we still are then the dust will have settled and we can you know continue on our careers or whatever

but of course everybody I mean, you know, with all that betting or whatever that's happening, all the predictions, cashier or whatever it is, all the bets. Cause she? What is it called? Any of the predictive markets. I'm surprised this isn't a betting thing. Oh, yeah, you're right.

When will they officially say with a heavy heart? But with the utmost respect, we have decided to end it. Well, I can't stop watching it. And I do want to say I'm living for Lindsay. I think he's going to try to stay there until, um, this summer till they start filming. I think he's going to wait for all. Isn't it going to start real soon?

I mean, we're in the summer. Yeah, July 4th. I wonder what to do with the contracts. Have they already announced it? I mean, I think he's going to wait for all this TV contracts. They're all going to be asked back. Are you fucking kidding me after this? I mean, they could be on trial for murder right now

and they'd be like, well, as long as they are on house to rest, we can still film them in the house. There's no way they will ask every single person, except for maybe the quiet newbies, maybe they won't be asked back. And Carl can go, because Carl's not even on it in the city. Now, we definitely don't need Carl. No.

What we need is Kyle, DJing, bringing hose back to the house. Amanda and West in a shared bedroom. Yes. I would love a Sally. In the good bedroom that Amanda used to have with Kyle and actually boating. And then they go, how much are you willing to sell your soul for? Are you okay to? Screw someone.

Because then you guys never screwed for four summers. Why can't you screw other people in the same house? Make money. Make good TV. Let's go. Oh my gosh. Let's go. I would love it to Sally crossover.

Oh, then I just had a vision. I just had a vision. While the summer goes on, Amanda and Kyle start screwing behind. Whoa. Behind someone's back. Whoa. Yep.

Good one. Yeah. Which does happen. That does happen. And that's happened. That goes with my vision. That's true. Which I wasn't even a vision. It's prediction, which is that he will wait for all the TV contracts to come back, which would be in the city and Summerhouse. Because he is calculated. And all he does care about is his career. West. And what he's doing has a lot to do with his romantic life, which is why he lied to his other girlfriend and all of them. So he will wait till it's in the bag. He will plan his breakup for on the show. He'll start to distance himself on the show. That will be his storyline. He'll have it on. in the city and summer house. And that's when Amanda will be like, well, then okay, I'm going to go mess around with Kyle

because he's into me. You know what's the difference, right? You know what the difference is, is most guys do the classic, most guys are cowards. And they start to change so much and the girl's so confused. She's just like,

but the first three months were so great, why are you being such a dick? And it's because they're being such a dick so that you have to go and break up with them. And then they're not a bad guy, right? In real life, that's what guys do. But since he's on camera, he's not going to want to be a dick so that she breaks up with him. He still is going to have to be sweet and attentive.

Yep. He has how to do that like a pro. Like a pro. How does he do it? And he's his personality. He acts like a victim. He keeps apologizing. He doesn't know.

He's sorry. He's apologizing. He's apologizing. I told him I don't know. He'll say something in the press that'll make her mad. She's mad even about doing the toast too early. He can easily start to frustrate her and frustrate her. act like a victim. That's what he does. That's why

where he's like, I hate him so much is because he, I would, I would respect a guy more if they admit to being like a womanizer. There are guys out there who are like, fuck it, I don't care, I'm going to go out and just

like, well, we can have sex and have fun, but like, I'm not. He does. Like Thomas Robinel? Yeah. Yeah, right. I mean, but consensually. But he's, he pretends to be this nice, guy who cares about your feelings, but he doesn't. And that is what is so gross, gross about him and why I can't stop watching it. And that's how there's another guy in the city that I'm like

obsessed with too, who's like that new one who like they're going to find out is whatever. But anyway, and that's what it drives. And Sierra and Lindsay for the girls who believe it and fell into it even as a friend, that's why they've gone insane. So do Sierra and Lindsay come back to the summer house? I kind of don't think they do. I think they do. Lindsay's not, I mean, unless she just has a friend. Like she was last year does.

I mean, how can Sierra walk around the house with the two of them there? There's no way. I think it's got to be, they're going to have to try to figure out as a producer. But what if she gets with Jesse? She's not interested in that crying thing. I know, but what if they did that for the show? because they're kind of teasing a little bit. It's kind of a long time ago.

Yeah, were you getting vibes last night? I was seeing things on Instagram. They can't fire Sierra. That would look horrible. So I think they're just going to go, this is the offer. Amanda and West are together. They're coming back. Sierra, if you want to come, great.

And if you don't, we'll let you out of your contract and that's fine. But couldn't she go back? But she will go back. Because the other gigs are short-lived and she knows she has to still clock in a few more years before she can go be page. Right. But couldn't she go back to the house for the summer looking snatched, looking beautiful, either getting with someone in the house or getting with someone else in front of them

and just making them jealous? She needs to go find someone in the next two weeks. Yes. And bring them on the show as her F buddy. And he needs to be very hot. And he needs to be very hot. And she's just like, this is who I'm bringing on the show. This is who I'm doing.

and this it's going to be you know well what about the sally carson of it all because i need sally from southern charm yeah that's good to be doing her crossover love it i mean with kyle that will drive Amanda up the wall it's already happy that'll be the greatest show ever yeah that'll be the greatest show ever i love it and so a lot of people talk about Amanda's breadcrumbing over Instagram. What did that really mean? So, you know, people were researching it. This was Amanda's IG during the Westgate.

Absolutely diabolical. So this is when it was not totally out. She's just posting that they're like having a drink. Then here's another one that she posted with his hat on. Yeah.

Here's another one that Amanda posted with a little Barbie smoking weed. saying, I'm not as disrespectful as I should be, and I want people to be more grateful for that. What is she so mad about? Why is she feeling like she's the victim in the situation? And then the last one of the ones that she also did,

this is, but I want to say, this is Jesse Kartik who would put this together for us. Anyway, she took a screen grab of her, when you first opened your phone, and it shows Sierra, wrote text me back and then she on Instagram wrote her back saying text me back

or is that she or she's saying that Sierra no this is that Sierra wrote her text me back on TikTok and she also said to Amanda text me back on Instagram and so the thought was she let the world know that she's in control

or she is in this friendship that where Sierra is constantly trying to get a hold of her just weird yeah and I I think. And there was many more than that. It was like, their hands intertwined, two champagne glasses.

Like she did a million. And then this is how much I care. And she shows like a little bit of a finger. But then pretend it. I think that she loves all of this. She loves the attention. Again, she cannot unblur the lines of TV, social media, relationships, opinions of her.

She's chronically online. It's, you know, and then she says, well, I have mental health issues. Well, yeah, wouldn't everybody? Like wouldn't everybody that's in this situation not be in a good headspace, you know? And you would think, you know, that you would step away from it. But you're not because that's your job.

Even before they broke up, she was constantly talking about Jesse and these people that would, you know, put heart eyes on her photos and she'd post bikini photos. And she's a thirst bucket. And I mean, they all are. We all are.

But you're exactly right. She chronically lives online. She thrives. she's a pick-me and I hate that term and I feel like it's always misused but she is one. She's fully gets her right now, her internal and external validation all comes from attention from men. And it's she thinks because she got some fucking love sack brand deal and was able to pay Kyle the rent money he's been paying the whole their whole relationship that she's, she's got some whole thing going on. And I do hope that her brand deals suffer and I hope that

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on the dog's life that they had no physical, romantic relationship in 2025? Absolutely not. That is such a lie. No. They're lying. They're lying. They're blatantly lying.

They live in lies. They're so wrapped up in lies that they don't, they probably believe their lies are true at this point. I think that they're just pathologically lying. You can tell they're already hooking up physically when during the truth or dare she got up in, or spin the bottle she got up and kissed Kyle. She hadn't kissed Kyle like that since before they were married.

Right. So she's trying to make him jealous. Yeah, it's like she could have just been kissing a woman. It was like that kind of fake thing. Totally. Totally. And then when she sits down to, with the girl in the green, what's her name? The pretty blonde and the green dress.

During the reunion, she sits down and she's like, how are you? Oh, right. What's that girl's name? I can't remember her name. She's a newbie, but she's pretty. Anyway, she's like, how are you doing? And she's like, you know, not great. And then she's like, I don't trust him, Amanda. And she's like, yeah, well, I don't know if I do either. Maybe this will be the biggest mistake of my life. I don't know. And I can understand that, too, being in that now in that moment. Like, you're like, oh my God, you know, I had to take all this. I'm on the show. It's the only thing I know how to do. I don't want to, now I have a cute apartment that's probably like $12,000 a month.

I can't give, I don't want to give that up. I don't want to go back home where her home is. Someone pointed out, they were like, I knew she was evil when she, I guess she like had tossed a salad, like a Caesar salad with her fingers and then served it to Kyle's parents. And that was on the show. And then someone right, you're supposed to massage caille. Cale. Yeah, but then wouldn't she like rinse it again or I don't know.

But she literally went like it was in the wood bowl. She went like that. Remember when Kim from Kim Richards from Real House says Beverly Hills made her potato salad, her famous potato salad with her fingers, which is so gross because you know like a fingernail got into the potato. Oh, come on. That was for her daughter's prom meal, like a pre-prom meal. Okay. Andy Cohen then on Watch Adams Live.

revealed, this is the weirdest thing. He says, you know, when there was the leak, which I didn't even think was that juicy, I don't even remember what it was, but somebody before the reunion aired, it got out, someone leaked the arguments going on between Sierra and West and whatever and Amanda. And who leaked it? Was it West to get off the show? Was it, you know, somebody else was it a producer, whatever? we never knew but we all figured it's a producer yep it's they're in on it the call's coming within the house

they want us to watch it nobody nobody ever ever thought bravo was truly upset no and when they were acting like this was bad this is the full-blown investigation like it's water gate or something nobody believed any of that and then he said well you were wondering when I said it was a big bravo fan well it was Jennifer Lawrence she figured it out so then someone's like, so we're supposed to applaud Jennifer Lawrence for getting some PA fired? What are you talking about? What does it mean?

And if it had been a podcaster, you would be mad at them and then threatening to sue them and sending a cease and desist of doing the leak. You know what I mean? They were mad about the leak, but now we're supposed to believe it was Jennifer Lawrence. I was like this. Terry Chivos is the only person who believes this. And if I was Jennifer Lawrence, I'd be like, ew. Why did you say my name?

They had a bastard. they had a fine but she didn't think it through because I don't think it looks good I think it's like even if you know that whether it's your friends with a podcaster or a blogger or whatever your friends or it was your you know somebody's little PA or somebody that was just a one day PA and it was on their phone and they just decided to do it and they didn't care and somehow like well again why are you telling like you don't reveal the whistleblower you don't no and he's like there was even there was Just tell me how you leaked your nudes got leaked to Harvey Weinstein before you got starred in three of his films. Yeah. And what about, yeah, what about West's flaccid nudes?

Yeah. Who leaked those? Is that Jennifer Lawrence? Yeah. And maybe she knows how to, she knows how to leak a nude. Exactly. And wasn't he sitting at the reunion like,

wait, what? Oh, you didn't know that your dick takes kind of around? I've never received any nudes. Oh, yeah. How many girls are having nudes in their phone?

that are also friends with Jennifer Lawrence and would have been friends with Harvey Weinstein. I mean, many, many. He's a huge, I just have to say, he tried to say, like, I saw speculation that it was Jennifer Lawrence. I'm like, I never saw that once. I never saw that once either.

I don't know, and who cares. She's annoying. Okay. Lenny Hotchstein's, famed plastic surgeon, best known for his sexy Halloween parties that he'd throw with his former wife,

Lisa Hodgstein. It's Real Housewife of Miami has been accused in a lawsuit. I don't think it's a criminal, but it's a lawsuit, I think. I'm not totally up on all the stuff. But anyway, this woman said she met him at a party, at a club. He said, come back to my house for an after party. She went. It was only them.

He gave her something to drink. She woke up the next day. Oh, shit. Doesn't remember anything. Wow. You know, realize something. did happen. It was whatever, within the last

year or so, but it wasn't yesterday. And he is denying it all. And he has given TMZ evidence of his ring camera of the girl leaving the next day, getting into an SUV, Uber, or whatever,

and going like, thanks, bye. And so that's the evidence that, you know, she wasn't, what, hobbling out and did she say she? rolled out? No. You just showed that she was like, bye. Yeah, let me get escape this house where I was drugged. I'm just going to play this off and be like, bye. Or maybe she hadn't even realized what really

had gone down until she talked to her friends, realized what happened, looked back at her phone, felt sore, felt something down there. Don't remember giving consent at all. Remember having a drink. I'm not saying, you know, these cases are hard because they are, he said, she said. But that's I will say if you've ever watched, I didn't realize it was supposedly at his house or at a party. For some reason, I assumed it was at his practice, which I took, I don't want to say I took it more seriously.

I just thought, oh, well, you thought it was like in the operating room? Yeah, I thought or just some, one of its patients. Got it. I thought, oh, I was going to be like a lot more nuanced about it. But if you've all you had to do is watch the first seasons of housewives and see those parties. I mean, they are very sexually charged.

There's clearly drugs flowing around, thank God. I wouldn't even want to go if there wasn't. And I could see it happening. You know, this is me in my opinion, but I mean, I don't doubt it for one damn second. We know old Jody or whatever was like come in the room with the AC. Allegedly. Yeah. I think they broke up.

They did. But their thing is criminal. That's Lisa. That's Lisa Hachstein and Jody. And Jody. What thing is criminal? When they bugged. Lenny's car. They both got arrested. Oh, and is that still going on? Yes. They broke up.

Well, this isn't, I mean, this isn't good news for anybody. No. If now he has to fight this thing. Let me ask you guys something. If you, and I just posed this question, if you found out, like for, currently now, Lenny is being accused by this woman, whatever. Do you think that that hurts his plastic surgery practice? And if you as a patient were his, would you go back to him? Sadly, no. Women, that want a good set of tits, that's not going to stop them from choosing the best doctor. They're not going to be alone with him. If he is the best boob guy in Miami, they're going to choose to believe what they want to believe.

But if they're looking at three different doctors and they're all good and they're all the same price, I would think that maybe they would go with someone else. Yeah, I would hope so. I mean, I don't think it would affect it. I don't think it would affect either because you can just go, yeah, of course, like this, you know, know, whatever.

You know, that one girl that he was with was a girl that went to the parties and all of that, the tall, skinny, like, Russian girl that he was engaged to. Right. They broke up. So, I mean, he's just always going to, and, you know, when he met Lisa, it was a similar thing. He, like, she was on my show or I think that's where she told me, but maybe it was somewhere else. She was like, you know, part-time modeling, cute girl in Vegas, met her.

him, he pursued her, invited her out to a party in Miami. Then they started to date. She's Canadian. Yeah, but she was like, living in Vegas, like, you know, she was always hot. Yeah. And then got hotter through being married to him. So he's just that kind of guy.

And back then they were like 14 or 19 years apart. So I was like, he's going to be that guy constantly going for some young chick. Right. And, you know. At his party. That makes me wonder if those parties are, if he's drugging girls at those parties. That is what I think. I mean, that's just my personal opinion.

Well, who knows? I mean, we don't know anything. I'm just putting it out there. In 2026 and you don't know what people bring to your party. You don't know that's true too. Alone with a male doctor anymore. That's right. That's true. You don't. You're not alone with them. Whether it be, you know, here's the thing though in anything. You know, whether you're the, the girl who went home that I actually knew that went home with Phil Specter, who wanted to be a singer and went home with him because he was like coming to the studio and let's hear you sing and you think this is my only opportunity to a girl that's like oh my god it's Lenny he's pretty he's pretty cute

I would date him or I need a new boob job so I'll be friendly with him and maybe she thought maybe she was any pretence that it was other parties and maybe there'd be other rich guys that she could meet maybe she thought we would hang out for an hour and I just get to know him and maybe we'd kiss and maybe go on a date with him. Maybe she did want to sleep with him, but she never got to the place of being conscious enough to say yes. You know, who knows what her story is?

Exactly. Or in his case, maybe what did happen, it was consensual, all of this, and now she's choosing to go this route. Right. Who knows? Also, a nice way to walk the girl out of your house. Doesn't it seem like she's just walking out?

Bye. You know what I mean? Why don't you walk her to the car, you skank? That's another thing. You know, there's, the guys need to know there needs to be proper bedside manner. Where you end it and you, no matter what, if you have no intention ever seen this girl again, you know, you go and you act like you're into them, that you like them, that you're going to call them again, that there's going to be another opportunity that you really, really like them.

And then you ghost away. And then by that, then they're like, whatever. But you don't, you know, go get the hell out. I think it was Regina King. I think it was Regina King on Wendy Williams, who said that she talks to her sons and would tell them just like, or her son, or oldest one,

you know, even if you know you don't want anything more, treat her with kindness and respect. It's a woman, you know, in the world who gave something to you. And it's like, it's simple to teach your sons and kids in general just,

yeah, you don't have to marry the person, but if they came home and, you know, let you penetrate them. I mean, God, at least, yeah. Walk him to the car. Get them an Uber. Yeah. Like, pay for their Uber. Yeah.

Like, it's just, that just speaks volumes that, just that. Yeah. It'd be nice and sweet and grateful the way we all should be when we're like cutting into our stakes. Yeah. That's right. Yes, exactly. And then moving on with our line here. Grateful to the cow.

Yeah. Oh, okay. Interesting. So my last episode I talked that I watched the new Netflix movie comedy called Office Romance. And I then finished it. And some of my weird questions that I discussed with Kate Casey have been answered. Did you watch it into, why did you watch it into, was it, is it a schedule or was it that you couldn't make it throughout? A little of both.

Okay. A little both. And, but I was going back and forth. I'm like, this is, there are funny parts. There are funny dialogue that feel way more edgy than a dry bar comedy, which is I called dry bar comedy. When you get your hair dry, you have to watch those shows. But there was strange things in it.

And I realized, you know, he is on Ted Lassow. Matt Goldstein. Okay. And I guess he's a stand-up comedian from England, too. So I realized that when I was watching that, I didn't realize he was a stand-up. He has a stand-up special out. When he did this long rant,

because he calls someone in the office a cunt. But being that he's English, but he's an English lawyer. But then I'm also thinking like, oh, so did he pass the bar in England, but then he's that good that he'd come back here. I mean, granted. Right. So, anyway.

Calls. So he. He has this whole scene where he does a rant of all the different ways you can use that word and why it's cultural and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, this is straight up out of his act, which is fine. Utilize that shit. Yeah. So, but it's just kind of- Sorry, Matt, you're going to have to take that out of your next tour.

Yeah. So it's a little bit like that. I'm kind of like, okay. And then I kept hearing, like, seeing little things about the birth scene. And then I went and watched reviews of it. And some people thought, it was very funny, really thoroughly enjoyed it. J-Lo

is perfect in a role like this. I did mention it's interesting how many F-bombs there were in this. Someone says F-bombs a lot. She probably said it 35 times in an hour and a half. He said it a bunch. Wow, okay. So I think they were like going

for like a more edgy vibe. So it looks aesthetically like an out-of-date, classic romantic comedy. But it's actually Being with the F-bombs and the cunt, was it made in England or by an English production company that they put J-Lo? I looked and he is a co-writer of it.

Okay. And then J-Lo is a star of it. Okay. And, you know, they had, I felt they had good chemistry and all that. I wish I could turn my head. But there were some weird things about it. You're going to have to turn your head because you're going to have to watch this part. So there's always, Kate and I had not seen the birth scene yet.

Casey and I always talk about how there's always a birth scene in a movie. It's a good, you know, what do you call it like classic scene where they call it like a... It's like a trope, like a narrative or whatever, like a chestnut. Yeah, they always put birth scenes in a car on a train. Don't get birth now. So this one girl who is the, I think she's the assistant or J-Lo's right-hand person. But everyone in the office is a friend. of J-Lo. She's like the meanest person, but we never see her act mean. She's sweet to everybody.

And she's actually like afraid of her assistant who's this girl who's been pregnant the whole time, who says she was, you know, inseminated and going to have her baby on her own. Everyone's afraid of her because she's like trying to find out if they're screwing. And she's, and they're all like, they're afraid they're going to get caught by the woman. The assistant. And that actress, by the way, is from The Hunt. And she's funny. And she has some really funny. Oh, Betty Galpin? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She has some really. funny lines with him. Wow. She's so good. Okay. Okay. So, okay. So this is where, no, she doesn't have a crush. Okay. I mean, I like

she's protecting her boss and her job and everything. She knows they can't sleep together. So she's like, they're like tiptoeing around her. Okay. And she doesn't want to leave, you know, to have the baby because she cares about working out this airline scene because I want to see what he looks like. Okay. So here is the birth scene. Okay. Okay. So they're on the, it's happening on the desk. It's happening on the desk. He's clearly squeezing them. Yes. They're in pain.

She's telling me. She's figuring out that they screwed, and now we're going to see this. Okay. Yeah. I'm going to have to call a lawyer now. Every time with you. Every time with you.

I played it for Drake, and that was kind of fun. That was kind of fun. I just go, here, just watch this one part. And he's watching his face, and he's just like watching it. And then, like, it is the most, it is absolutely they, you know, know, got a prosthetic. And they absolutely had a baby covered in placenta. Come out.

And as someone who's given birth, the first time I didn't get to see it, I saw it only through video. Okay. You watched it? Yes. From this angle? Yes.

Peter. You watched it? Peter was always, you know, cutting edge of video cameras and stuff. He recorded it from there? From that angle. Oh, my God. It was like,

Oh my God. So that's Drake. He should pull out Drake's video and showed it himself. I have to tell you guys. There are a couple things that haunt me to this day. And one is, I did not think it was a big deal that he filmed it like that. Oh, my God. We shared it with numerous people.

Oh, my God. Like on our big screen, one being my friend, who I'm still friends with, that you guys have met, Dewell and her husband. Oh, my God. Before they have. kids. They came over to see the baby. They got immediately in the car and they were like, why they showed? No, she got up and left. And I was like, is this weird? Is this weird that I showed my, I don't know why. I thought, and then even my dad, you know, my dad had never seen

a birth before. Back then, you'd sit outside. My mom would get her hair done before. Okay. She'd bring her own deity, as she'd call it. She'd do her makeup. And then they'd give her gas. and then they would like squeeze the baby out of you or whatever. Yeah. And then she said they nudge you and they'd say you had a boy or a girl. Okay. So my dad had never seen the actual baby come out. And I was like, you can come.

Like I don't care. I don't know why I didn't care. And the way people say, no, you should have your husband watch you from behind because it's like going to change it forever. Well, it didn't because then I got pregnant again. So it was fine that he saw like that. Not only that it turned to a full porn that you guys played at your house every day. Peter's got some kind of like,

birth fetish. Good for you, Peter. So then the second baby that came out, Brandon, they said, do you want a mirror? Oh, God, Heather. And I said, yes. So then... Did that make it hurt more? No. Oh, didn't. No, but what was fun about it

is, so the mirror was on the side of me. So my legs are like that. And I could see, and I did see just the head pop out. Once the head pops out, the rest you have got less than a second for the rest of the body to come out. But I saw the head come out and it turned to the mirror like this. And then the rest of it came out.

And I'll never forget it. And I remember thinking right away, that's what I kind of imagined Drake to look like. He was fairer. So I remember seeing right away that he had darker hair. Okay. Brandon. And I just, yeah. You thought that's what I thought Drake was going to look like.

I did not see Drake come out of me. I only saw him once he was like cleaned up and like handed to me. So with that one, I saw, anyway, I know they wanted to do something edgy and they're probably like, again, we've seen a million birth scenes. Somebody thought, let's really show it. And now everyone's seen it. And there's no one seeing it. And it's on Netflix. Well, I have aggressively avoided seeing it since I accidentally did like in junior high when they show you.

But now here we are post-face. I got to see that. I've never seen it either. And I always avoid birth. And I've said this. I, for some reason, it's the crying and the wailing and the, I can't deal with birth, birth scenes. Like, movies or in real life. Any of it.

I don't like watching pregnancy shows. In real life, it's a, it's no one's screaming. Okay. You're like grunting and it hurts and, you know, you're in pain. And the video's from junior high. There's two differences. One, there's definitely a lot more blood. Yeah.

And two, there's a lot more hair. Somehow, hair down there. Yeah, hair down there, all down the sides. And you're just like, this is a hairy, bloody mess. Back then, people didn't, you know, trim themselves down there. Right. Even underneath. Right.

And I guess with my mom, okay, so I was, my mom, there was lots of false alarms with me for whatever reason, which is weird. Usually the more kids you have, the more it's like goes quicker. But she had a bunch of false alarms. And she, the story was, you know, she went back a few times. And it was like, at one point my dad was like, are you even telling the truth? And you're just gay in a few pounds. Like they had all these like funny cocktail stories, you know. And then my mom said, oh, my God, I'd gone into the emergency room so many times.

They'd shaved me so many times. I felt like a go-go dancer. That was like only go-go dancers, only like strippers, like trim themselves down there. but I guess the nurses would do it for you. Yeah, they finally got to the point where they're like, can we get rid of your bush so we can all enjoy ourselves? And like nobody else is doing that, you know? Yeah.

Wait, were you an accident? Like, were your parents just doing it and you were an accident? I mean, obviously you were an accident. Yeah, I know I was a total accident. Yeah, they let me know all the time. But they were just like having like sex all the time, just unprotected sex? My dad said, well, your mother couldn't count a calendar.

because they were Catholic and you're supposed to count. Yeah. And there's only three days a month or whatever that you were told you could get pregnant. So you're supposed to count and do all these things

which of course they didn't even have like the sticks now for ovulating. It was really hard, which is why people back then had like eight kids or whatever and it was like my mom would be like you know when you have this many kids people ask me, are you crazy or you're Catholic?

Catholic. It was just all these corny Yeah. No, and so, yeah, first, my sister was the first mistake. My mom went on the pill and a couple ladies in the neighborhood, someone she knew got a blood clot. So she's like, I'm not, I'm going off the pill. Then she got pregnant with my sister, Shannon. And she, my dad had psoriasis and he went to get on this like, experimental thing.

And so the guy said, you're not planning on having more kids. No. you know, we have her two daughters, or two boys and a daughter were good. And then he comes home and every time my mom get pregnant, he'd come home to like a martini and a steak and he's like, oh shit, you know. And she's like, well, and then he's like,

oh my God, I'm taking this experimental drug, you know? And then when my sister was born, she was like really slow to like walk and stuff because she was like scared to all the other kids. And she's blonde. And she's blonde. And my daddy would come home and she'd be in the plate pad and be like, look at her!

She's literally because I took that experimental drug. Like she's never going to crawl. Like whatever. And then with me, then it was like, that's it. And then, um, they're like Catholic me down. Many, many years later because they were still having sex. And I was like, you still get your period, mom.

Have you thought about how reckless you're being? You know, what is your plan? And I kept asking her at like 15 because I was like, what are you doing, you know? And then finally she was like, your father, after you're born, your father found this priest in San Diego that would forgive a vasectomy. Oh, okay. Off the books.

Which is not allowed. Right. And so he got the vasectomy, went to San Diego. God forgiven. And then that was the end of that. That guy was like running a back office, like, give me two hundy, bless. No, it was like another dad was like, just get it. I can't.

You know, it's against the church. Well, my favorite part of the story was, um, Just the inherent, wonderful sexism and misogyny that all of our fathers have. Yeah. And everyone of the time... Like, why is my mom's fault? I might get you count the calendar, you horny, hard dick. Because it's you, that's bugging on.

I guarantee your mom wasn't like hungry for it right when she got home. No, he's the horny one. You count the calendar. I remember going in Catholic school, they had this couple come. And we learned all the different birth, you know, birth control stuff with the, with the percentage. condom is 75, pill is like 99, but it's only 99. It's like, all that kind of stuff.

Anyway, this couple comes real hippie-dippy, bring the baby. He's got like the Jesus belt buckle, and they tell us how they practice whatever it's called. Natural family planning. The calendar method. Yeah, natural family planning is what's the call. And she's like, you know, and it's really a family thing, you know, my older one helps logged my temperature in and then you touch yourself

and so she was involving everybody in the calendar counting. And I am like, oh my God. And then my one friend like goes, well, can I just ask you? Is this baby that you had to bring with you? Is this, was this baby plant? You know, number seven.

Right. And she's like, well, that's why we named him Matthew because he's a gift from God. No, he was not planned. So I'm like all these like charts that are in your bedroom that everybody, so the older kids and I'm like, oh God,

you know, I'm wondering if the older kids are lying. No, mom, your temperature's higher, you're ovulating. Don't! You know, like, I don't need to take care of another kid. It's all a ruse to make women feel that they have to do whatever. It's like the, you know what I mean? It's like just a way for men to never be able to take a pill,

Viagra, a condom, whatever. It's like, now let's make them think if they count the calendar that they can, we can't count shit. You're going to get pregnant. Right. The dick goes in, the jizz goes in, you're getting pregnant for the most part. It doesn't matter. I think every woman in that situation when she's done, absolutely, there is no better thing that a woman can do when she's done having kids and doesn't want any more than to make that husband get a vasectomy. It's an incredible insurance policy. That way, it ever doesn't work out. If you decide you don't want to be married to him anymore, he will not go and start. another family. Now, of course, he can. Sometimes they get the vasectomy reverse.

Sometimes they get, you know, borrow sperm, whatever. But for the most part, it's a really good thing. Yeah. I would think more men would want a vasectomy. But some people get a vasectomy and it still works. What? Nightmare. Now we're cutting your balls off. That's the baby Matthew. Now we're cut your balls off. If they wait too, there's like too long or there's like one last sperm that comes. I don't know what it is. But I know, I know like, I know like two people where it, it's like, somebody just did it on a show that we all watch and didn't want to, oh, oh, oh, it was Danny on the Valley. Okay, now we're talking about the Valley. Okay.

He says, and he did get one or he doesn't want one. I think he ended up doing it or he was planning to, but before he could, he had to like, you know, adjunculate like jizz, like 30 something times, which. To get it all out. Yeah, so I didn't know that. I had no idea about that. So you're saying maybe if you don't do it the correct amount of times, some still lurking around in there.

And also for a guy for his insurance, he could also just freeze it. That's true. Like freeze some of it just in case, you know? If I were a guy, I would 100% get a vasectomy. Like, it's safer. You don't have to, the woman doesn't have to worry. Like, it's so much better.

The scoop is that guys have been getting secret vasectomies in Hollywood for years. Yeah, allegedly Brett Rattner. Yeah. And then they have it. And if they do and want a child, then they have that saved when they're ready. But nobody then can come and claim the baby thing. And they get all the benefits of like people trying to gold dig. Yeah.

And it's all the ugly ones. So just know that, ladies. The ugly ones are vasectomy. But what do they think? Speaking of the Valley, how are we feeling so far? I love it. I love it too. I'm enjoying that too.

Yeah. Julie's favorite ones are the ones with guys. It's so weird. I was off it for a while, but now I'm back, full force. Yeah. I'm like soups into the guys now. She was like one of the first people into Vanderpump. I just want you to know.

But I hate watching for the guys. Yeah. She was into Vanderpump first season. Yes. And you know that was like, when was that? 2010 or something? Like she was into it. She was obsessed.

I am. And so. What do we think about? I mean, I do enjoy the whole Brittany story of getting her plastic surgery and having this, in my opinion, very unattractic. guy, sorry, who has multiple children with multiple women. He has to drive from San Diego to pick up her medication when she forgets to do. Or maybe he didn't forget it and he takes it back to San Diego with him.

I don't know. Exactly. But brings her some flowers. That's a great call, Heather. And then she's like, you know, well, he asked me for some money and I thought, well, he did have to miss work to come. But I mean, the ick factors are coming. And I'm like, yeah, yeah. And it's just, oh.

When she said she gave him money, I almost threw a chair across the room. Well, gas is expensive. I mean, are you kidding me? And he asked for money. It wasn't just that she gave it to him. Because he's like, I have to miss work to be on camera. Or, and then, I mean, it's a little bit like, are you kind of basically paying him to be your boy? Like, I think there was something where she still, you know, sure he was probably fine.

They probably had a fine time in Cabo together. but also let me get him on camera. I'll give just the old thing of I'll pay you a little bit of money to be my boyfriend on camera. I'm not saying that she, it wasn't real, but to solidify that she was desired. That's true. And also letting Jacks know, I have a boyfriend. This guy wanted to see with me and he came. That's true.

In my most vulnerable state of like post-plastic surgery. I want Brittany to know that she obviously can do better and that this guy has got to then pay him to go out. ahead and leave. You'd give him a severance package and let him go. Because he's, which I think she probably did. I hope she does. I mean, she was honest where she's like, you know, the egg factors are coming. And he's in

everyone's business. He's in women's business, which I didn't like from the beginning. Well, yeah. Well, for almost because he was trying to just you know, stay in there for a minute. And it's fine, but they vilified and I think even Kristen for the red flag, I mean, red flags went on for like two episodes.

We're like, okay, we get it. But it's this whole thing with the red flags and Brittany ignores the red flags. The red flags were there. And by the way, though, the red flags, it wasn't even just that he was still married. It was just that he's got, you know, four kids from four different women

and just kind of like, okay, she chose to ignore that. Then, I mean, in all the years of all the reality shows, of all the housewives of all of it, the man is on for a total of 10 minutes and gets involved in a huge argument. I ever there was no bigger red flag ever to even the point where he was defending what's her name the one getting married

the fucking lesbo Jasmine Jasmine and even Jasmine ended up hating him And then he went on on his Social media to like defend himself Say how far the drive is from San Diego Oh my God Where the flowers are bought I don't know But it's done it's done

He and Anne can go date Exactly. Go date on the curb. With the rest of the trash. Maybe they'll start a podcast. No, and Joe and this guy, Brandon, are going to start a podcast. Yes, 100%.

That we... Three cunts in a Zoom. We dated a Vanderpub person. Podcast. I'm so gagged and really hope that he kept those pills. But we'll now we'll never know.

That's such a good idea. I mean, damn, I wish I was... Also, I mean, I think it is kind of... I guess people can pick up your prescriptions, right? For you, they must be able to. I didn't think that they would let you do it with pain. I don't think so. Because that's hard to get, but in Sandy...

Or you call it. Yeah, you call it. But then I'm thinking, yeah, you should be able to when you're like sick. Someone should be able to get them for you, right? And she said on whatever... I think of whatever outlet I read, she said she was like, please, I'm not going to be able to make it through the night.

She seemed like she was in so much pain to me. Yeah, when they unwel. Like here to here, right? She's like, yeah. And there was drains and she said she couldn't make it through the night. That's a way to do it. People were walking in. I mean, you've dated him for a little bit and he's seeing you in a worse date than that scene we just showed you with a baby coming out of you.

Oh, God. I didn't. I think that people who watch her, I can only speak for myself, I don't think we maybe quite realize. And we've seen her in real life a million times. know her or friendly with her. I don't think we, I really realized maybe how bigger boobs were because then when she got the procedure, I didn't notice how much smaller they'd gotten. I really couldn't see that big of a difference.

But people were walking into her room, even post surgery where they're still swelling and being like, oh my God, your boobs. Like, apparently she'd lay down and like her boobs are like up to here. And then she's like, I can't believe I can see my feet. And like, so. They're so tiny. I'm flat chested now. Yeah.

Everybody would walk in and like. literally have the same reaction to her how much smaller her boobs had gotten. So, I mean, she's, he can go. She can do so much better. Julie's right. She can do so much better. I do want to say that I am living, loving, learning for Lala. Lala is killing it, crushing it, and nailing it.

She is, she should run for something. She should literally run for something. She should go work for some women's organizations. She, you know, Brandy said before. Yeah, she is very good. She has excellent clarity and advice. It's good. She is.

The show is good. What do you think? Are you bored? No, I'm not. I mean, I watch. I mean, like, you know, there was a scene where they were going to play basketball, so then I fast forward. And then I realized that then Janet's husband Jason, like, broke his leg playing or something.

I know. His knee. Because I skip the basketball scene. We know him and love him, like, friend-wise, and I still fast forwarded. And I just watched him in the hospital. I was like, let me catch up when they get. I did watch it. And I watched the whole thing.

and I watched him fall and I, listen, as a knee person, I felt, I feel his pain so, so personally. He went to the ground and couldn't move. Like he was, and I have to say, I, you also disconnected from that. I love a sad L.A. apartment party. It brings me right back to 1996 when I was invited to those. Yep.

And Zach had his apartment party. Nobody helped him do it, you know, with his boyfriend. they arrive and you feel for Michelle. I remember I was that girl that brought my own bottle of Merlot. And they're like, what do you want to drink? And I said, you can open that one. And then everyone talked about me saying that's really rude to do. And I'm like, well, sorry.

Like this, I want my good wine. Yeah. And then he didn't have a wine opener. And so just that you'd have to be there. That, to me, felt very real that you would go. And it's like, but a long time since you've been in like a tiny apartment party with like, folding chairs, but we all went to them back in the day in our acting

days where why when we had little shitty apartments and didn't have a pot to piss and why did it why at 24 or 5 was I like, you know what I should do? Throw a holiday party. What was I thinking? I had the most parties when I lived in an apartment, period.

I mean, I would do the jello shot. I would go to Costco and get the grossest guacamole and then try to save it after. Yeah, you'd be thinking it look good too. After the party for days after. With like the slats that are on the windows that are... The slats. I mean, the great carpet.

Yeah, and you're thinking that the party's rocking so hard. And then you're like, and I would like have to write out the directions because if you're and you know what I was like where the parking is in Brentwood and then wondering. And I was like, oh, I think I'll start at six. I think I like it at sunset. Sunset. I barely have a balcony. I don't know what was I thinking.

But that's what's great. It's like that to me. feels real. Like even though he's on a TV show and he's probably making some bucks now, he still has this apartment and he wanted to have a party. And to me, like, I just, that was funny.

Because a lot of them are spending money they don't have on a lot of the housewife shows. Their cars are rented, which isn't even a big deal. Yeah. But then, you know, 14 of them go into, like, bankruptcy and you're like, oh, well, that's kind of hard to enjoy this now that we understand.

Yeah, like, I'm this glad Zach's an apartment. Yeah, like just be unpretentious. They're funny. It's fun. Yeah. He is funny. I enjoy him a lot on the show. A couple more Housewives news before we wrap it up. According to reality blurb,

their insider or whatever, says that Frank Cantina can't, yeah, is that it was a Cantina? Catania. Katania will not be filming Real Housewives, New Jersey. Why? He's just not asked to do it. Supposedly, they're saying it's Teresa,

not wanting him. I feel like if they, why, would they have him. He's since gotten married or engaged to that girl. Well, Dolores doesn't want him, right? Delores, they said, you know, Dolores will no longer be on Rhode Island. The also in this article said, the rumor is

that because Teresa and Melissa are now getting long, Dolores' position of being peacemaker and all this is iffy. And then if she doesn't have this weird platonic relationship with her ex-husband... It's not as interesting in the storyline?

And why have him there? Like, I can see it. I thought they were going to bring on him and the wife. But maybe they don't feel like they're that valuable. You know what? I bet you maybe, maybe. Wasn't there a whole thing with Frank? Yes. And Louis's son.

Okay. So also in here said the beef why they believe it's Teresa saying, no, I don't want Frank around. Is Teresa's husband Louis hired their son Frank. And something, the job didn't continue, whatever reason. And they were on the reunion. And Frank was pissed at Louis about it and was trying to get into something that shady happened. My son went there and the warehouse was closed and he wasn't getting picked. Whatever he said, I don't remember from the show.

And right away, Dolores was like, Frank, shut up. Everything's fine. Frankie Jr. already got another job. Everything's fine. It was great. He loved working for you. He had a great experience. He found another job.

He's fine. Stop talking. Big Frank. is fine. Like she saw the money twirl, twirl, down the toilet. If I can't stay good with Teresa, I won't be on this show.

Also, little Frank Jr. is fine. Shut the fuck up. Like, stop talking about her son. Don't get him in a place to piss off, Louis. Who knows what happened there. Nobody knows what happened. It might have ended very nicely or not nicely. We don't know.

So that's the thought. If I was Teresa, I would do that too, because Frank, Big Frank and Joe Gorga were always very close. They love to act like fucking boobs and do shots and, you know, be little gay boyfriends together,

which was always cute. Gorga doesn't have that kind of say, I don't think. No, but I think Teresa doesn't want him to have like a buddy. A posse. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now that he's,

they're back friends with Louis. And I think Frank will kind of like mess up the dynamic. And she's right. I mean, also the thing is, you got to make room for some other people to shine. Yeah.

And if you're having Dolores and her current Irish fiancé. Polly, who we love. And we really need to have her ex-husband. We've seen all that. It worked with the other guys. I just couldn't, I believe this story. I don't know if it's true.

He seems perfectly nice. But I can see why, like anything, you got to, you know. Dolores is way to chill and she is a peacemaker for that to be fun. Like maybe if Dolores couldn't stand his new wife. Yeah.

That'd be fun. But otherwise we don't really need Frank. Because Frank's cool too. We don't really need Frank and his cool wife. And then Dolores being cool. And it's like, okay, well, there's too many people at the dinner party now. You need to go. No.

Let's get someone who's annoying. And then, you know, Dolores' mother comes over and she's like, you're not eating right, ma. Oh, yeah. Okay. That's not that juicy. The children are perfect. They take care of animals. Right.

Now, Margaret is not coming back. Whoa. And I. I like Margaret, but I came across this video she did yesterday where now she's doing her TikToks on her green screen and she's like, my biggest pet peeve are modern farmhouses that are being built in my quaint area that has colonials and all this stuff.

Stick with the architecture in the neighborhood and da-da-da-da. And she's saying all this. And I wrote, imagine the woman who just bought her dream modern farmhouse with her own hard-earned money and opened her first. phone and saw a former real housewife saying stay out of my neighborhood. You wrote that? I did write that. And I kind of thought, well, I know I'm guilty of making fun and doing rants and all that stuff. But I just think dissing on a style of a home when it's a home, it's fine if it's not for you. Unless you live in a gated community with a homeowners that has

aesthetic rules, you can't say anything about it. And I just think that's like It's like Listen she comes by it honestly You guys The real estate runs deeply through Heather's veins It does

It's one thing to say I don't like your pants Or I'm just not a fan of this kind of shoe Or whatever I hate this trend It's a pair of shoes You are saying I hate

Somebody's bought their dream home Entire nest egg That cost millions and millions of dollars Maybe you built it yourself Maybe you helped design it This was the style you love Yeah things go in trends it might be back in style in 20 years.

It's not necessarily out. It's still a big beautiful house that's only six years old. I don't know. It always comes back. It's just kind of like there's something about ripping on like a kitchen or I hate this countertop or I really expensive shit. That to change it is a huge fucking pain in the ass.

I don't know. I just, I love interior designers that are like these are the trends, but of course choose what you like. This is a way to update your couch. or update it and still not cost a million dollars. I don't know. Especially coming from someone who has dead animal carcasses

hanging all over her living room that her husband shot himself. And she does. That's right. Yeah, that's right. I mean, you know, I get it. You know, that's... She wants any opinionated and you, you know, you got to have an opinion to have people pissed off.

Whatever. That's true. But I just really thought, I'm like, I think when people rip on something like that, they're just assuming that, that some tacky gold-dinging woman shows it and she has a rich husband and let's stick her to

and tell her that her house is ugly and out of style. And I'm like, you don't know that the girl didn't buy the house, that this is what she loves. And it's just kind of mean, but listen, we say mean things on the internet. Like I said, I'm guilty of doing it too. I know people have watched a clip

and probably gotten their feelings hurt too, but I just had to share that. But she has every right to her opinion and that's not her architectural style that she enjoys. Was your dad's name, Jim? Bob. Bob. This is when we need Pam and Bob.

Because here's what I don't know. And this is, and you honestly triggered you and it's very charming. That style of house, which is literally taking over L.A. and all around Southern California, for all we know, and Pam and Bob do, somewhere up in heaven, we should get the psychic in. Maybe it's a lot cheaper to build those or to do a remodel. and then it's making someone be able to afford like their dream home. I mean, I think it is because it's like the style of like windows and stuff, though they look very nice and they are expensive.

Somebody would say, you know, like when you go into an older home now, there is a desire to go. The older stuff is coming back in. Yeah. I went just into a, and Josh Flagg actually had the listing and it was much older house. And the people that owned it is exactly what you think. they were. Love it. Her name was Bunny. Okay. Oh, girl.

God. And hopefully that cocktail cabinet was there. There was wallpaper and there was the curtains match, the wallpaper match, the da-da-da-da. But I walked in and right away I was like now, like two years ago you would have been like got this thing. But I'm like now,

actually these fixes are pretty easy. Wallpaper's back in. If you just got rid of this, you could make this. And like, I was like, I think there's like a desire to come back to the like the original charm the heavy wood and all that is like back

but then it'll go out yeah I mean there was a time where everybody had like the sunken living rooms that now are so chic and so Palm Springs and everything and I remember my parents figuring out everyone fill that in fill that in I remember being horrified by my parents orange couch my parents had an orange and brown couch and I was just like what even when it came in that day. I was like, my mom has

such good taste. There's no way she picked this ugly ass couch. And it was, you know, she could tell it wasn't. And then... Oh, I see it now on TV and I'm just like, was my where my parents, like, did they have good taste? Because we didn't not have a living room. Right. And then there was a time where you painted the brick white. And that's kind of back in

because that looked chic. And then we had to go and scrape it all off. Yeah. The rustic look of the 80s was in. And then you have to do-da-da-da. And I'm just like, it's just whatever you like. Yes. That goes for fashion, too. But I would be interested to know if it is less expensive and it is beautiful and somebody was able to afford a bigger house or a remodeled house because it's a less expensive remodel then yeah it's a bitchy thing

to say everybody's fucking she said my toxic trait she did she talked about she said this is my thing and you know um i love her and i also agree you can have you know an opinion and she's gotten criticism for her interior design too so maybe that's why she was like this is the carina architecture I don't like. And then there was this other house where she's like, this house I actually do like, but it doesn't belong in Patterson County or wherever she's from, you know, whatever her little part was. And people, then someone wrote, I have a house that's 120 years old and I'm furious at the new builds. Okay. Come on. You know, like, I mean, somebody else would be like, yeah, well, you bought your house for $12. You know, like. And I'm 40 and I can't afford a house. And this is what I can't afford. And I actually really love it. And it's big and it's new and it's clean. And I don't want to buy an old house that I have to redo everything on that has mold in the walls. I actually like a new build. Like, it's just whatever. But everyone has a right to their opinion.

But I will say I am one that likes Margaret's aesthetic in her house. Oh, yeah. Other than the dead bodies of the animals. But a lot of people think it's too much. I love her kitchen colors. She's like got a very specific taste and I really, really like it. I love it too. Girls, we have to say goodbye now because you are going on an international flight.

We're both all going away. then when we both all come back. Yes, because I'll be flying during that time. Yeah. I'm going to the Bahamas for a week. We have to make July count. But I still have new shows for you guys, so relax. Yes.

We need to make July count. We need to be desert sluts. Yeah. Maybe July 4th or around there. July is our summer. So we need to be kicking it. Well, I love you. Love you too.

I appreciate you guys. Happy birthday bitch. You both look amazing. And I'm so glad you're happy with the mirror. Oh, I mean. And looking in the mirror all the time. And looking at yourself at all angles. Brandy is going to divulge some of her journey on the Patreon.

So if people want to check that out. Julie Brandy, yeah. You can just go to Google Julie Brandy Patreon. Yeah. And we are going to do travel episodes from Australia. great. I'm not going to tell anyone who the doctor is unless they join the Patreon and DM me. Okay. Because he doesn't care. Okay. And I will always, I'll be giving my adventures in the Bahamas on my Patreon as well, but there'll also be fresh new episodes of Juicy Scoop on Tuesday, Thursday, and then Juicy Crumbs on Wednesday, as always. So once again, I don't really get a vacation because I'm still going to be working for you. So I don't want to hear you cry and bitch and everything. else because we never stop.

We never stop. We never stopped. We never stopped. We never and we never get. We can never stop. I need to buy a farmhouse. I love a farmhouse. If I could leave, if I could buy a farmhouse, I would do it today this afternoon.

I wish that I could. I think most people would just love any kind of shelter. Please. Which is why Splotters is such a popular show on A&E. That's my new favorite show. Oh. Oh, that's a good one. Anyway, bye you guys.