Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Brandy and Julie, Real Housewife Affair, Faking Death, Lesbianism and Motherhood
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All right, you guys, now for the best episode ever. Hello and welcome to Juicy
Scoop. Well you guys were talking, did Heather lose two more friends, where are
Brandy and Julie? I knew those bitches would turn on her. Welcome Brandy Howard,
Julie Goldman, fresh from doing a huge long stint in Portland
and then also this weekend we were together in Irvine. We were. And luckily you could
come today. Listen, nothing's going to keep us apart. You know what I mean? I don't care.
Keep us together. That's your cue Heather. We really are a throuple like no other.
And no, we had so much fun.
Everybody that came to the Irvine shows,
it was so fun to stand up and then the live on Sunday,
we had a blast.
And it was so great to see everyone.
And also we were, we talked almost every day
when we were in Portland to you.
And you dropped your little baby, your youngest.
He was in Oregon, like we all just did Oregon together.
It was very serendipitous.
Very coincidental.
Well, listen, he has to get somehow to Portland,
which he wasn't able to do to see your show,
to get on a plane and fly to Palm Springs.
And every day I write him, did you get your ticket?
Because they have like a bus ticket or a train ticket
from Eugene to Portland.
And I'm just gonna,
until he says I'm on the plane
on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving,
I will not rest.
So you guys aren't gonna buy it for him?
Like just- The ticket?
Just get it.
No, cause he's like, oh, this kid can take me.
And I'm like, can you just get the ticket just in case?
It's only $18 if you're a student or something cheap. So just if there is a juicy, I'm going to put it out there. If there's
a juicy scooper from Eugene that needs to go to Portland on the Wednesday, I will put
my son in your car. I'm not worried. It's not like I'm putting a four year old with
a stranger. I mean, he's pretty big. He can handle himself. He can handle anybody. So if you'd like to get some scoop,
let him spill the beans for two hours, driving to Portland.
Anyway, so much fun this weekend.
We had a blast. Thank you, thank you, thank you for everyone came.
The Juicy Scoopers are great, I do want to say.
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let's get into this story that happened. It's been happening for a week. So I'm going to
explain it to you. There's this girl named Brianna Chicken Fry. Chicken Fry is not her real last name,
but she's young. I don't even know if she's 30. She has a popular podcast under the Barstool label
with Dave Portnoy. Portnoy. Whatever. You see him everywhere. He's very opinionated. He's very
successful. This is his network. I didn't realize he was also like on this podcast with her, but he is along with this other guy.
And then she had this also this other best friend named Grace, who I think they also had a podcast,
whatever. She's very popular, cool girl, likable. And she's been dating the country star Zach Brian
for like a year. And he is enormous. And he's a stratospheric. If you don't know him, look it up.
You will recognize every song like
his top songs. You will go, oh, he
sang that.
So he's a young guy, huge concerts,
all this stuff, writes his own music
real quick. Was he at stage coach?
Probably. I don't even remember.
If not, he's probably coming this
year. Whatever.
So people that followed her liked
that they were this couple. You'd see her on stage with them then go on tour, blah this year, whatever. So people that followed her liked that they were this couple.
You'd see her on stage with them,
then go on tour, blah, blah, blah.
They broke up and it first started out
where she was like crying and I'm blindsided.
I don't know how this happened and she's crying
and I need to take a week off, which I think is good.
I was like, yeah, you should take a week off.
Like that's heartbreaking.
Then they come back and the three of them, Dave, Josh, the other guy on the show, and her start spilling the
beans about this relationship. And she says everything from the latest thing is she forced
him as the boyfriend. She said he didn't want to go. Please, can we go to Grace's, my best friend's, grandmother's funeral?
And he was like, why are we doing this?
They go to the funeral in which she said,
I guess he was kind of not a delight.
And then after that, allegedly,
that's when he wrote the song Pink Skies,
which is about a family going to a loved one's funeral.
So they're saying you're not,
you're even getting inspiration and writing
things like apparently he wrote it that night. Meanwhile, when they broke up, in which I
guess he got caught cheating being on like apps or something like that, along with just
being a dick and gaslighting and being mean to when her friends came all just there's
so much to it.
Drinking and then being an asshole.
Right, like they went, this was one that I really thought
was a weird asshole move,
which I think a lot of girls could relate to,
especially someone who might be in the public eye.
They went to the Grammys or something together
with the Golden Globes, I don't know what it was.
And she was there and he was there too.
And she wore this black dress and she looked great.
Or maybe she went to something by herself and he started to be like,
I can't believe you're wearing this dress. This is like really skimpy, blah,
blah, blah. But then he like reposted a photo of her being like,
look how hot my girl looks. So it was like,
so it's a lot of that, but then she just kept being like, okay, because yeah, he's a big
country star.
It's fun.
She's in love with them.
They stay together.
Anyway, jumping forward, now they're saying she's saying she was offered $12 million by
him to never talk about him again.
Because he had gotten drunk and made like a few scenes publicly or privately that he didn't.
That's just at least what they've spilled so far.
I mean, there's so many little things. Clearly it was an awful relationship.
A lot of people, a lot of girls especially, can relate to being with a power dynamic,
even though she was very successful in her own right, wanting
to make it work, being confused, like, wait, are you mad at me? Or like one of those type
things. Then she was on her podcast tour. And, you know, he would try to like, fuck
that up right before she went on stage, screw her birthday up, like just constant type of
things like that. So then Dave was like, fuck this guy. And they he and the other guy wrote
all these like funny songs about him making fun of his Lego head and saying that he's
a cheater saying he's the country diddy. And they're dropping all these songs that are
actually quite catchy, I guess. And, and then it went back, then there was rumors that Dave offered her 10 million to talk about it.
Anyway, so he says all this stuff.
And so, but it comes off good, you know, this is the he's sticking up for her.
He's like, screw this guy.
You've been found out cheating, being an asshole, whatever.
So it just keeps continuing on.
And some other people are like,
oh my God, I would have taken the 12 million dollars.
But then the other side of it is,
well, if she had really gotten into
like a legal agreement like that,
it still means that he could then write songs
about his broken relationship with her
and make money off of that.
And she would never be able to respond.
Even if they were fake, even if they were positive, even if they were like, my brunette girl got away or whatever,
she still could never respond or profit off of it. And he could probably make a lot more than
$12 million writing songs about her. So, but he still can do that. He still can, but now she can
too. Now she, but not to the tune of 12 million, I don't believe. I'm like, you take your lawyers and you count her offer
at 20 and call it a day.
I think Dave is very, very smart, obviously.
He discovered Call Her Daddy and everything.
Now Call Her Daddy is not with him anymore.
It's at Sirius and Spotify before that.
But I think he was like, oh, this is gonna skyrocket the new girl power,
fuck this guy.
I'm gonna be the hero behind exposing bad male behavior
and screw it.
I don't feel sorry for Luke Bryan,
Zach Bryan.
I don't feel sorry for Zach.
But they are all named Luke.
No, there's Luke Combs, there's Luke Brian, there's Zach Brian, and there's
Zach somebody else. And they're all in country music.
And anyway, I don't feel sorry.
Poor Luke Brian somewhere just like, fuck.
I don't feel sorry for him, obviously at all, because the way the world is working, he will
do just fine.
He's going to tailor-swip this.
And there's a million girls that are like, you can gaslight me and tell me you hate my dress
and be mean to my friends.
And then pay me 12 million.
And paid me 12 million dollars or not,
just to fuck you I would do it.
Just to say I was with Brianna Chicken Fry's
ex-boyfriend who sings songs.
He will do just fine and people will still like his music
and people will still go to his concerts.
And this will be over in two weeks.
But what I do think is smart is that
she didn't take the money
and that's because this is your career.
Your career is talking about your life.
When I first heard about it
and didn't know all the details,
I was like, wow, you know,
for a young girl who's got a popular podcast,
good luck ever getting
a boyfriend.
Like I do think it's kind of a risky thing, whether he's a finance guy.
And I remember I talked about it with Caller Daddy's, you know, ex co-host who's very successful,
Sophia Franklin.
And she was like, you know, yeah, it's been difficult to date.
And I go, but also they have the advantage because they can go back and listen to 500 of your episodes
about all your ex-boyfriends and the sex that you like
and blah, blah, blah, blah.
They can know everything about you,
but then they're like, ooh, I don't,
don't tell anybody I'm your boyfriend
because I work at, you know,
this financial institution or whatever.
So it, it is what it is, but I think-
Unless she got money from Dave Portnoy, which I wouldn't be shocked. He's a very shrewd,
clever businessman and good at what he does. I mean, I think you need to take millions
from something. You don't just sit there and go, I get to tell my story for free on where
the podcast I'm already paid to be on.
Somebody needs to give you a check.
There was probably some deal where he was like,
this is gonna be great.
And then the first time they talked about it,
seeing it had like 17 page six articles,
then they're like, let's keep going.
And it's all gonna be great.
And you're gonna be like this hero.
Because all the young girls that I see
that are following this are like, go Brianna Chicken Fry, you are our
queen. Screw this guy, expose him because, you know, he mind screwed you and all this
other stuff. Try to offer you money to shut up, but I guess he also was cheating. So.
I spent too much time thinking about this in the last week and never having, I've seen clips of the podcast here and there
because they're everywhere.
But what I decided in my mind,
and I'm sure your listeners know the truth,
is that she was in college and her name was Brianna
and there was another Brianna
and they both kind of looked alike.
And basically this Brianna was the one
who threw the chicken fries.
And so they'd be like, is it Brianna Simpson
or is it Brianna Chicken Fry?
Oh, that's how she got the name.
That's just what I've decided
because I can't stop thinking about it.
You know, like is it Heather Podcast
or is it Heather Slut or whatever?
Like the two different, you know, you differentiate
and if she threw, because I, the branding of her
and this name,
the level that that is coming into play here,
like her name is everywhere.
It's so memorable.
I mean, you know, and it's like,
that's not her real last name.
Yeah, no, no, no.
That's what I love.
Yeah, it's great.
And so, I mean, I did wonder,
because I didn't know who it was.
I was like, did she fry chicken?
Yeah, exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
And that's what I think.
Is she like great at doing videos? Brianna Simpson or Brianna the Chicken Fry Girl. Is she do, because I was like, does she fried chicken? Is she a cook? And that's what I think. Is she like great at doing videos?
Brianna Simpson or Brianna the Chicken Fry Girl?
Is she do, cause I was like, who's this?
I wanna watch her cook chicken.
I'm like, what are we doing?
I do wanna, I am curious.
I wanna learn how to fry chicken.
I do, I am curious to see who she will date next.
And if it's not a public figure,
then that person can say whatever happens,
you're not allowed to speak about me.
Oh, you're signing NDAs now.
Not even an NDA.
If she just marries a guy who's,
if she just dates a guy who is not a public figure,
Luke Bryan obviously is.
Zach Bryan.
Zach Bryan is.
Yes.
So let's just say she meets Joe Schmo,
who works in tech and is hot and whatever.
And they have a fun year long relationship
and they ride bikes and whatever.
And then they break up and she has to go again,
I have to take a week off
because I broke up with my boyfriend.
She won't be able to like talk shit about him
just based on because he's not a public figure.
They could be problematic.
If the guy wanted to go after her,
it could be problematic. Because- I can to go after her, it could be problematic. Right.
Because-
I can tell you, Zach Bryant will no longer date anyone
with any kind of platform.
So if you're a non-famous girl,
and you don't mind being gaslit and told what to wear,
and sometimes he's nice to your friends,
sometimes he's mean.
Yeah.
He's not even hot.
Very famous, very rich.
Yeah, but it doesn't matter. I know, I'm just saying. He's a rock star. I just need very rich. But it doesn't matter.
He's a rockstar.
I just need to say it.
Thousands of people are cheering from him and all of it.
So there you go.
Now this is a juicy story.
In August, this guy went kayaking in a lake in Wisconsin.
And he's got three kids, like 11, 12, and 15, and a wife.
And he didn't come home and they freaked out
and they said, we're worried.
And they went and sent the authorities out there
and they found a capsized kayak.
All his stuff was still left there.
His car, license, all these things, keys. They, you know, looked at the bottom
of the lake and never found him. They now know he's alive. He had said back in January
that he lost his passport in which he got another one. So you could have two passports
so that you couldn't escape your own death.
No, but I've lost the passport and then had to get another passport and now could have two passports so that you couldn't escape your own death. No, but I've lost a passport
and then had to get another passport
and now I have two passports, but one-
Because then she found it.
Yeah, because then I found it.
In her passport holder.
We told you the story.
Right, yes.
But now I've got two passports,
but once you get the new passport,
the other passport is expired.
But then she lost the new one on the same trip.
I also did that as well.
And then we were hoping that the old one,
which is now defunct,
which we found in the passport holder,
would work to get us out of China.
Well, thank God you're here.
Exactly.
We were just like fingers crossed.
Maybe so Julie did not.
Fake grown-ups.
She probably tried to, honestly.
So he's 54, he's been talking to some woman.
So he didn't do this to go with a secret family he had?
A secret girlfriend, yes he did.
Oh, he did, okay.
He found a girl that he was talking to online. Okay. He wasn't never filed for divorce you know. I just think
if you're the wife I don't and you just have to say thank you for not killing me. Yes you're
right. Thank you for not killing me. I am fine that you faked your death. Yep. To go
to your room. Such a good call. But you could have killed, it doesn't matter.
Cause you're clearly insane.
My kids should not have, fuck this.
Like you should not, you've lost your kids,
but you would have lost your kids anyway
if you would have killed me
and they would have lost a mother.
So thank you for being a class act.
He also bought a $375,000 life insurance policy
before doing it,
which is also nice for them to get.
Oh, that's cool.
He just was like, so at 54,
he started talking to some girl in some country.
I forgot the name. It says Uzbekistan.
Where is that?
That is in the hill, that's in the mountains of Russia.
Yes, the Caucasus.
Oh, those Russians. Russian light, whatever this is.
They know what to do. Those women. So, I mean, it was,
and then they don't know where he is to get out of this country.
Yeah. Yes. Okay. Then something found, they found out that somehow someone,
some Canadian official, his passport had gone through there.
So that's where they, so they've been on search.
They still don't know where he is and they're
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Papini. We have this guy. We can just throw. Well, it could be death. It's death.
It's kidnapping.
It could be Justice Malette.
Because we're doing hate crime.
Yeah.
So I faked my...
I faked a crime against myself.
I faked being a victim.
Yep, victim.
I faked being a victim.
Because I've known people who put it out that they died like on social media.
And then they're like, Shane's alive.
And it's like, wow, unreal.
Yeah. Love it. That is so good yeah and then they go in a house well also I mean yeah well I mean not
for nothing you know I'm glad that you're saying this because dancing with
the stars aka dancing with the stars,
AKA dancing with the criminals is already halfway there. Yeah. Yeah.
Well, let's take out the, Anna, let's take out, you can do cons.
And let's, then they can all go to the, your show and your house.
Okay. My other favorite story is the,
the blonde mom from Petaluma who claimed that she believed that this cute
grandmother, like young grandparent couple who were Mexican,
she said that they were trying to traffic her kids,
try to steal her kids.
Was she the one jogging?
Michael, that was real.
That, no, jogging.
What do you mean it was real?
She made it up.
No, that documentary is so good.
Maybe the one with the kids, but the jogging was real.
Oh. Oh, wait.
No, both were fake.
Sherry Papini faked her own death and got with her weird old boyfriend. And remember thatging was real. Oh. Oh wait. No.
Both were fake.
Sherry Papini faked her own death and got with her weird old boyfriend.
Oh wait, but what's the one where they kidnapped the house and remember that one was real and
they said no they didn't tie you up.
Oh that was the guy and girl that now are married.
That was so riveting.
That was American.
Oh the couple.
The American something.
Horror, nightmare.
Yeah, American Nightmare.
The Petaluna mom who went to Michael's.
That's right.
Oh.
And then got in her car and did a video that went viral
where she said, this couple was following me around Michael's
and they were trying to steal my kids.
And luckily an elderly man like stopped it
and this whole story.
And I remember the minute I saw it, I called bullshit.
And then I found out
that she didn't even film that immediately after the supposed kidnap attempted kidnapping.
She like went in her car like hours later and did it. And then they found out the couple
was like, what? Like people saw the couple because then she called the police and the
police like, were like, do you do who are these people and there's just
this couple like walking through Michael and they're
like
that was a teacher or whatever they were like pillars of
community like this this couple had grandkids that have been
around forever, but they were Mexican and so then that was a
big thing why you saying this whatever and she she did get I
don't know how it ended but I she can be
on the show yeah you know who else yeah on the show cancer Samantha but then all
the people who have can't we're scamanda we have to man and then you're one from
Grey's Anatomy the writer from Grey's Anatomy and then also yeah other one
apparently she loves me we haven't watched yet but I saw them that was just
like how embarrassing and then you, my mother always like,
if it's anyone Jewish that ever does a crime,
my mother's like, they're Jewish.
Like she's more ashamed.
Yeah, she's more ashamed.
Yeah, you should be, yeah.
So I'm just like, great, just fucking lesbian,
giving it, how dare she?
So also the one from 90 Day Fiance,
who said that she had cancer and they had the GoFundMe and they raised all the money
and she never had any cancer.
That one is amazing.
That one I highly recommend people looking at.
The homeless, remember the couple that went
and the homeless guy gave her the $20?
And then said, did the GoFundMe,
because he was a former Marine,
and gave him all the money and then it turned out
he was like, where's my money?
And they took it.
He was gross and they were gross.
So they can all be in there.
Because none of them are friends now.
Yeah, all of them are horrible.
They're all in on it together.
That's so good.
It's great.
I love this show.
And the thing is, you find out in the TV show
what the follow up was, if they did any crimes,
if they had to say they're sorry.
And then they put them in challenges where they have to say they're sorry. And then they put them in challenges where-
They have to pretend they're, that's suicide.
Like they have to, yes.
And then even though they're supposed to be recovered,
they still know the ways to do it.
Like the ways to fly.
Yeah, how's that?
Can there be one of the shows where just like,
you know how in whatever shows it's like the ex,
like we have a surprise, your ex is here or whatever.
The victims of their crimes show, like there's a whole thing of like, you know what I mean?
They have to deal with like the people they stole money from or they have to face them.
Well, do you remember when Olivia Newton-John's boyfriend went missing and he wasn't missing?
Olivia Newton-John, rest in peace.
he wasn't missing.
Olivia Newton-John, rest in peace. She had this like kind of cute, rugged,
he was like Indonesian or like Asian or something.
He went on a fishing trip and they were like,
he's missing.
And then they're like, he's not.
And we're like, why would you try to escape Sandy
from Greece?
Like what's wrong with you?
When did it go on for like weeks?
I have not thought about this Heather, that wrong with you? What happened for years?
He was got unreal young.
Why would you even hide from America's sweetest angel on the planet?
I think she passed never knowing the real truth.
Like why? Why did you do that?
We have to look it up.
I hope he was like escaping some financial thing.
And not just because she like bugged the shit out of him.
I hope it was something else.
I mean, it was like was he running from organized crime of some sort.
I thought it was something with money.
Yeah, because I thought they found out before she died that was like a whole thing. We have to look that up.
But how embarrassing though for these kids that this is like the people in school are like, you know,
At least my dad didn't pretend to drown kayaking.
And go to his bag of Stan.
Yeah. Like that is awful. You know at least my dad didn't pretend to drown kayaking and go to his bag of Stan. Yeah
And why do I can I always look like that?
Kayak look like that you're right. He bet he does Iron Man's and just like you're like there's no way dad drowned
But also can I just ask him if I was in a room with him? I just asked him like I'm just out of curiosity
It's like going through the crime that you planned.
You gave the family the 375,000 life insurance plan.
You clearly planned this entire thing out.
I'm gonna go, you're talking to your girlfriend,
she's like, what are you going to do?
Are you gonna come to the biggest temple?
I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna go to the kayak,
I'm gonna put it, you never thought in your head,
you're gonna use your new passport to travel,
which is literally the thing that we all use
to track when we travel.
So we can all easily see that you're not dead.
I don't understand.
But they didn't see right away.
Also, he's never met her.
She could be catfishing.
Oh my God, he's in there.
She could be a dude.
Or she could be using someone else's photos.
And now he has to crawl back.
Or he'll get killed.
When did this occur?
This is happening right now.
Oh, so this is, oh, he's catfished.
That's a man in a basement.
Or he got or he somewhere or once he reached out and said, I'm on my way to this country, then
that person just never answered him back.
Like they already got a couple thousand and they're like, oh fuck, I can't meet him because
I, my name is, you know, whatever.
It's a man or a girl that's not cute, you know, or whatever, not the photo that she
gave him.
So now he's just probably like, how can I ever come home?
I'm just gonna have to like hang in foreign country
for the rest of my life.
And because I'm 54 and I don't have any money,
he's just gonna have to do like manual labor or like.
Yeah, he's gonna be put into absorbent of the Russian army.
They're gonna find him in Ukraine.
He's gonna like have to go, he's gonna, he's fucked.
I mean, he is really, really deserves everything.
And I feel bad that it's coming out because now the family has to probably give life insurance back
Well, I don't think they got it yet
Cuz that would probably have to be a year before they give it to you
But he so those were the two that was the nice thing they did was one not kill her
Yes, and he and she and that was like she was kayaking
He could have taken her kayaking and capsized it
and held her on their water and been like,
my wife is drowned.
And faked a whole thing and then just still left the kids
and or brought the Russian out here
and put her on 90 Day Fiance
all while they think their mom drowned in kayaking
and they're dealing with this Russian weirdo.
That could have happened.
So thank God that didn't happen.
And then he did the nice thing by like,
I'll make sure they have a couple hundred thousand
to like live off of when I'm having fun in Russia
with my girl.
Because it's so fun there.
Somehow it all comes back to 90 day fiance.
You know what I mean?
That was the demise of this guy.
How hard, how horrible, how much you hate your kids,
your three kids and your wife to move to Uzbekistan.
I don't know, we don't know that much about,
but I can tell you this, we've been to Russia.
It's like going to North Korea.
Isn't that where What's-his-name-hangs-out
in the wrestling ring?
But that's what it is.
That's how it does.
This is like what I talk about in my act.
Like some men are just so,
all you have to do is give them a compliment
and they're like, oh, this is where it's at.
Like this is where it's at.
This is the girl for me.
It's not my wife of 22 years.
It's not my three kids.
And it's not a life in Wisconsin.
No, it's a, I'm gonna go live in a place
that's run by a full authoritarian.
Because she's that beautiful.
And because she, because we've had phone sex or something
and she said my penis was like no other.
Your penis is like no other penis I've never seen.
No man in his back is as penis like you have.
It's so wonderful, beautiful penis.
It's like-
That's it, I'm faking well and death.
I'm never gonna see my family again.
Oh, I can't live without your penis.
I mean, what about that, there was that person
that was a man
who made his voice into a woman's, like an agent.
Oh, that's the con queen.
That's the most bad.
Queen of the cons.
I mean, we don't, I don't care how,
for those of you who don't know who this person is.
That's a doc too, and that's Queen of the Con,
and that was about how this person played
on all these people kind of either wanting to break into the entertainment industry or being sort of like below the line, like a
stunt person, a photographer, a location person.
And they really wouldn't even get that much money for them, but it was the run around
that this person would get off on.
Making the relationship of the person on the other end being so excited that they're finally gonna have a job
in Hollywood, and it was all bullshit.
And then sometimes that person who was a man
would act like a woman and then like have phone sex
with like some male stunt person.
Yeah.
That's how comedic, you don't know who.
That was like my friend, Theron, that I met.
Theron, that I met. Who would-
Theron.
He was a black gay guy who I met out in Manhattan Beach.
And I've told this story before, but I'll tell it again.
And he was just real funny.
I like hit it off with him.
And then he told me that he would go up to hot,
tall, volleyball playing guys in Manhattan Beach
and say
This is really gonna age the story because this is like pre-2000
Already, this was out of style, but he said do you want I am I?
Work for bondage. I need you to be in a point for sisters They don't even sing that.
Whatever point is he's in job.
He didn't know the pointers.
Yes, you're somehow they took a man.
I found him to be funny too.
So there was some there was a real connection.
There was never going to be a video.
Then then he would get the number of the guy and then he did a really good girl's voice and
he would call them and act like a drunk girl who just came across his number while she's
drunk in the closet drinking mimosas after doing a body glove bikini photo shoot.
And then she would say she was half Irish, half black,
and then have phone sex with them.
So his whole thing was to get off that way.
Making these guys have phone sex with him?
Yeah, first he also just actually physically got off.
First he would get the number to be like,
that's what I'm saying.
You know, here's an acting or modeling or a video job.
Right, I get it.
Then he would never call back about Pointy Sisters.
Then he would act like he was the girl that had...
And so then I would be like,
I would be going out to 12th Street in Manhattan Beach
and I would be like,
and this is just like the straightest, whitest,
like I'd walk into a sea of just like hot, cute guys.
But then Theron would be there as like my gay, funny,
like, and we would drink and he'd have this funny laugh.
And then he'd be like, I fucked him, I fucked him.
Meeting on the phone.
And I was like, this is so fun.
Cause he, and I mean, they were literally like,
they completely deserve it.
They think a body glove model just got drug homo-mosas
and you know what?
I'm so horny.
Yeah, that's how it was.
That's how it was.
Yeah.
So horny.
It's like, you're so dumb.
I'm glad you got police.
That's what I'm saying.
These men are so dumb.
There's nothing that makes me happier than when a man gets sexually harassed.
I mean, I live or trick anything sexual because you know that's how they...
I want them to have all of it. I want them to get all of it. I love it.
That is hilarious.
If things are on, I wish you were on Dancing with the Stars.
Keep fighting the good fight.
Yeah, you gotta live in the house.
We'll track him down. He's not gonna find gotta live in the house. We'll track him down.
He's not gonna find a home.
He can host it.
I haven't talked to him in a long time.
He did reach out to me after I was on Chelsea lately.
And I was like, oh, thank you.
You know, I'm doing great.
Whatever.
He had moved away though.
He left LA.
They're on Pointer.
I did pick him up though at the Pointer Sisters, one of the Pointer Sisters' house.
He was staying there and it was a house just off of Laurel and like took him to the comedy
store to watch me.
You know, and I needed like two people to see your performance.
Bring your show.
I'd be like, I'm taking you.
You could, you could, but, but none of the comedians know that was, those ugly things
weren't his type.
He was like, let's go to Manhattan Beach for me to find my next victim I know like a tall
he got the hot and in the show you know they I fake my own crime whatever you
have a mole in there like a Theron you could have a mole who's then now doing
it to all of them and see who falls for yes okay so China Phillips and Billy Baldwin opened up and said,
we basically live separately, but we're not breaking up.
We still get together and hang out.
But then when we feel like we've had enough of each other's energy,
the other one goes to the other house.
And, you know, we heard about sleep divorce as we hear about this.
I appreciate the honesty.
It kind of reminds me of what's going on with Kyle.
Is she with Morgan or not?
Because Kyle also said in recent interviews,
because Beverly Hills is coming back,
real husband, Beverly Hills, she said,
they said, why aren't you filing for divorce with Mauricio?
And she's like, cause it's fine.
Like we have separate houses.
We talk on the phone every day.
We're still a family.
She doesn't care that he dates people.
I guess he doesn't care that she does.
The kids all know they have all these businesses
and homes and stuff, so they're just not doing it.
But what pissed me off in this other round of interviews,
which I sent to you guys,
is it's like she's still not answering the question. So she says, well,
I had to have a really hard conversation with my four amazing daughters about stories about what
they were seeing in the news. She never says Morgan. She said there were just stories in the
news and people talking about it. And then I realized, wow, this is so foreign to me. This
is never how I grew up thinking. And so I had to say, sit down with them and be like,
I'm thinking about this stuff because it's out in the news.
And what do you guys think of it?
And they just said, we want you to be happy, mom.
Yeah, what are you doing?
And what are you doing?
The lickety splits or not, Kyle?
Like, shut up. Like that was.
So basically, you could interpret it as one way, which is these stories were out there,
but I never did anything with her.
I'm still straight, but I've milked it out for two years
for a storyline so that I have something interesting.
And in the process, I helped Morgan's career get her known.
Also, they did some documentary coming out together.
I got to be in that music video
where she was feeding me strawberries.
I'm gonna make you love me,
but I'm still not gonna tell you.
And I guess when she was on Regis, not Regis,
Kelly and, what's her husband's name?
Mark.
Kelly and Mark, Rippa, whatever.
They must be told, you can only push this question so far.
Because how is I mean, I can't believe these interviews aren't like, so are you
gay or not? Did you have are you bi? Did you have a little thing with Morgan?
But now you're just French. Just fucking tell us.
And she's saving it for the next season of Beverly Hill.
Like, what are we doing?
I'm like, well, of course, your daughters are going to be supportive. We were saying on the phone And then I'm like, well, of course your daughters are going to be supportive.
We were saying on the phone yesterday, I'm like, of course.
Portia's like 14, probably half of her classes are un-binary at a private school in LA.
Like no one's going to be like, you know what, mom?
If you're even thinking about being gay, you're not our mother anymore.
Like it's not, she's like, I was so impressed and shocked that they'd act that way.
No.
Now, if you told big Cathy, if she was still living, your mother,
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after she shipped you guys off to get married
to all the richest young men in LA
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if you were to tell that woman, I think I'm gay,
and she was like, that's great, honey.
That would be like surprising and great.
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And it was framed as a sex conversation. I had to have a frank conversation with my daughters
about sex. And it's like, as if one single one of them is like, what? Women getting together?
How does that work, Mother? Mother, I don't understand what happens
when women get together.
Who puts what where, Mother?
I also think-
We just want you to be happy, Mother.
Shh.
You know, if Mauricio and Dorit can be happy together,
just kidding, then you deserve to be happy together too.
Yes.
Also, she doesn't even need to come out as anything.
At the end of the day, whatever happened here, if you believe it happened or not, that doesn't,
you know, her sexuality is fluid, she finds herself doing this, who knows, it could be
a one-off, it could be the one time, and then that's it.
She does tell her to dress like whatever.
I don't think they're together, and I's annoying. I don't think they're together.
And I now, I don't even think
they may have ever done anything together.
I think that it was fun and she liked her
and then she is, she is Paris Hilton's aunt.
She has been on reality for 15 years.
She probably saw that she and was like,
we're gonna go out and hang out
and I'm just gonna see what's gonna happen.
We're gonna, you know, see, let people talk,
see what happens because she now says,
Morgan isn't in the show this season.
She does because it was too much paparazzi,
too much falling around and that's really not Morgan
So now Morgan got famous and I believe I believe she is talented and likable and she's had a good tour
And now she can just goodbye
Well in that case, I mean I would think that whether or not they hooked up for real and had yeah blown
Lesbo sex. Yeah, I think that Morgan was probably in love with her and
And now that they're not you know, I don't think Morgan
Like you what you're just get together like that you become super super close and then you're just gone
No, I think that's that she that they probably still talk and stuff. But just like any friendship, I don't think it's as close
I think they hung out a lot and
And I think they had frank conversations whether in bed or on the phone.
This is kind of behooving both of us to hang out.
Oh, so you think it was like a total,
like transactional. I think it was transactional.
I think it could have been.
I think they also could have had some fun
for a couple of months and then just remained friends.
If it was transactional though.
But she's not part of it anymore.
I do think that it will though turn on Kyle.
Cause I did see what a very,
I would put it a top tier tweet
where someone re posted the article
about her Frank talk about sex with her daughters
how she was dreading it.
And someone said,
this is the most boring coming out story I've ever heard.
Yes, yes.
And I'm like, people are gonna start to turn on you dog.
You should have at least stayed friends
or cause they were doing their FaceTimes.
And I thought it was, quite frankly,
I thought it was boring on the show
and I didn't really get their friendship.
I was more interested in Doreen being jealous and all that
and more interested in her and Mauricio at the bar
and she's drinking like the Corona, no alcohol.
And I'm like, or whatever her mock tales.
Then at least just fake and say you were curious.
And you at least have to say,
you have to expose, she's not exposing anything.
I was curious, I know what you keep my interest.
Yeah.
But I just wasn't into it.
Yeah, it was, we were more than friends at one time,
but now we're good.
No, you're not gonna ever tell us,
which you don't have to tell us everything.
No, that's true.
But we also can be annoyed by your walk, these interviews, and you did like seven of them yesterday,
and they were all saying the same thing, which was nothing!
Right, that's the annoying part.
Yeah, but if you're gonna put, yeah, exactly.
You're gonna put yourself out,
and you're gonna, and tease us,
with the sexuality of it all,
and then not even give, I mean, just at least give,
like I said, I was curious.
She did pick my interests. I thought to myself, can I do this? And I just, maybe I said, I was curious. She did pick my interests.
I thought to myself, can I do this?
And I just maybe, and I couldn't, whatever.
I'm sure a lot of people feel that way.
Or I am open, I know, or I'm open to whoever walks
in my life, whatever it might be.
But you know, your job is to expose everything.
And if you wanted to keep this secret,
you very easily could have. One million percent.
You did not need to be walking around in...
No, Morgan doesn't look too mad at the paparazzi
in that photo.
Yeah, you didn't need to be walking around like,
you know, Wayne's World and on Rodeo Drive
and going to Starbucks.
The private jet.
Yeah, and you didn't need to be going to La Quinta
and all these other places
and going on a girls' trip together,
which she was in, and sitting these other places and going on a
girls trip together, which she was in and sitting on her lap and posting it.
Right.
Like if you didn't want like we've all like I've hung out with somebody where I'm like,
I'm not going to post this because it might hurt my other girlfriends feelings.
You know, since there was just four of us and I don't want her to feel bad.
You don't have to post.
Nobody would have known you were on a private jet sitting on her lap.
That's right.
So, that's what I'm saying.
Then we had to see Teddy sitting there bugging on too.
Yeah. In that same photo.
It's very provocative.
You can't deny the provocativity of it.
That you are, and listen, we get it.
You know what I mean?
When you present as a lesbian and you're with somebody who does not
It questions arise right especially when they then do start presenting as a lesbian as in this photo exactly and now you're changing
And you're doing things that are unlike you
Characteristically before when you you stay the same people, you then are living your truth,
then you're friends and you're da-da-da.
Remember when she was like,
I could see myself doing it
when they all had to do that dumb ass game
that they do on every dinner.
I was like, have you ever,
hold on, okay, where did you play a fun sex game?
Like, after it's like, who likes it at the butt?
And who da-da-da.
Oh yeah, when was the last time you had sex
and then everyone goes around and lies? Right, it's like, likes it up the button who did it? I know what was the last time you had sex and then everyone goes around and lies, right?
It's like I had anal two days ago like then it's like who have you ever been with another woman?
And then it's like no and then it's like well, I've thought about it. It's like well
Even if it's just that you thought about it, there's nothing wrong with any of it, but who hasn't thought about it
Well, then just say it.
But I think everybody on Earth has thought about it.
Everybody on Earth.
And you watch the porn.
People lie about it, left, right, et cetera.
You know who will lie about it?
Caroline Manzo.
Mmm.
Mmm.
No, she's not gonna.
I would never.
I would never do that.
It's disgusting.
OK, so then we know that Teddy has also filed for divorce, and now the news is out
because other people are writing about it.
So you can look it up.
Why did Teddy get divorced and it's there?
So now I'm going to tell you because it's out. So the rumor, the alleged rumor is that she was having an affair with her, either her
horse trainer or the horse trainer that trains her daughter who also rides horses.
And it's a very small community and allegedly this guy is married with kids and his wife
found out and there was a fight that happened in front of witnesses and therefore people
knew and were talking,
and somehow then Edwin found out the day before
then she posted that we're getting divorced.
So I'm assuming, we all assumed,
we all had a photo in our mind of what we thought
this hot horse trainer might look like,
just like someone who cheats with her husband
on the, with the tennis instructor.
I think I remember you specifically saying man bun.
I did.
Because I did.
You said that.
I long hair and then Heather took it to me.
So then I got sent what I'm 99% sure is the person,
which I will not be sharing the name or the photo.
I'm sure somebody else will maybe even before the search.
But in my opinion, shocking, shocking as far as looks go,
not near not a hot guy that you throw away your marriage for.
Her husband, in my opinion, Edwin was very attractive.
This guy is nowhere in his league.
But then you'd say, but God, Heather, why are you being such an elitist? So what if he's not cute?
So what if he's just a horse trainer? Maybe they really had a connection. That's fine.
But he was married and also, allegedly, he is like a serial cheater. So this has been happening,
allegedly. He fucks his way through the stables. Yes, so I'm also like, oh my God, girl.
Like really?
So then just like the kayak guy, you fell for it.
You fell for some guy who was fishing, fishing, fishing,
and you caught the fish,
maybe because you were in unhappy marriage,
maybe because there's been lots of problems
for the last 13 years, that's fine.
But- The fish has's fine. But-
The fish has gum disease.
But I'm gonna say, like, wow,
you should have thought about it again.
You're a public figure.
Yeah, this guy, when you say that's a horse trainer,
you're gonna be like, wow, you look like who you train.
I'm just saying, it's just interesting.
And just because I thought,
oh, she just got some hot guy that she just could, and like I said,
maybe they have so much in common
and there's such a soul connection
and maybe they're gonna go off and happily,
everyone happily gets divorced and co-parents
and they have Thanksgiving together next year
and they ride horses in the wind
and she gets to come back on the,
on the real house on St. Mary's Hill.
But for me as a woman who saw this laid out,
I was like, God, you're dumb.
Cautionary tale.
Cautionary tale.
God, you're dumb.
And also if you're a public figure, then don't fuck around.
Just break up.
If you cannot control yourself while you're
about to go leap the thing on the horse,
and you're seeing this guy, and the chemistry is so crazy.
Just at least separate from your husband, tell your audience I'm separating from my husband
and then that way when you can take up with him
and the audience won't give you any grief
because they'll be like, well, she was separated.
Yeah, that's my opinion.
I think this knowing nothing about the man
just having seen the photo and read some articles of,
you know, the training of the of the Melling camp children and and her because she was
on the horse in one of the articles. Um, I think what he does, what his game is, and
I think this works perfectly on her because she is a very basic bitch. And that's just a fact. I'm not even gonna say it, it's my opinion.
I think that he acted disinterested.
And he had-
Her husband, you mean?
No, I think the guy that she got with.
I think he acted disinterested at the horse place.
I think he had an attractive wife,
not unsimilar looking to her and she's very beautiful.
But she has whatever massive debilitating insecurity
she has.
Teddy, yeah.
And we've seen it come out and that sucks.
And I definitely relate to that,
but she's so basic bitch about it.
And she's so thirsty that it just takes one person
to be like, I don't notice your beauty.
Yeah, you're gorgeous.
And she's like, what?
Or not even give her that.
And suddenly she's clamoring for it. Like he doesn't think I'm gorgeous.
And now that it starts to like turn her on
and turn her on and turn her on.
He's got to have some game if he's banging his way
through the stables, cause the man.
The game is not the face or the body.
He's got a psychological thing he's doing.
It's just such a warning because when you're married
and especially at this age,
I do feel like this is the age
that people step out or get divorced.
For a woman, it's between 38 and 43.
It's a sweet spot.
You're feeling hot, you're scared,
you're almost not gonna be hot in five years.
So you start, and then your kids are older,
and I mean, I remember seeing it when I,
at like the Halloween carnivals and the schools.
And I started to see like people that were married
and flirting with other, just being a little flirty,
just seeing like, again, fishing.
What Starbucks do you go to after drop off?
And then the guy shows up and.
And you're also at games and events of older kids.
Yes, it just starts to happen.
And I'm just saying to guys and girls
that might be listening to this Juicy Scoop
or this Juicy Scoop episode, do not fall for it.
You're not special.
It's not special.
They are fishing, they are seeing,
you probably are one of many,
but this attention that you feel
has been void in your marriage for probably quite a while by the time you even consider stepping out.
Do not throw your life away.
Also because if you do get divorced and there was another person involved, you are going
to have a much more contentious breakup, fighting, custody battle.
Everything will be way worse than if you just went
to your spouse, I'm not happy, we're not happy,
let's get divorced.
He could still be awful or she could still be awful.
But when it's you are screwing the little league coach
or your personal trainer or the horse trainer
or the whatever, or the other dad at school.
God, and it happens. Guys, don't screw the nanny. or the other dad at school. God.
And it happens.
Guys, don't screw the nanny.
Don't be such a lazy fuck.
Step outside the home.
And off your street.
Yes.
Like suddenly Carol next door was looking good
and it's like, no, you're gonna need to go down the block.
Yeah, you really, really think
that your second soulmate just happened to be,
right, you know, the room mom in 4A at the school.
Like, no, no, it's just because it's in front of you
and your life is boring.
Yes, yes.
I blame Andy Cohen, I do.
Because I think if he would have kept her on the show,
maybe she would have gotten divorced,
but she would have not been with the horse trainer
because she would have been too public.
And they would have been filming there
and he would have been like, I'm staying away from that.
Was there a situation with him?
I mean, are we just-
She mentioned, somewhere I remember her alluding to the fact that early in their marriage,
there was something that happened.
And she just mentioned it recently.
That he cheated?
Yeah.
And I remember thinking, that's weird.
If it was 13 years ago, why would you mention it now?
But now I think she was trying to remind herself, him and the world, I am fucking up right now,
but I wasn't the first to do it.
And also, she was caught, they were caught,
like in one of the rumors and innuendos we've been given.
Rumors, talking about the husbands?
That maybe they were caught and then like a fight broke out,
like whether it was physical or verbal,
like at the stables.
So my question is, would she have never,
would she have, if she had her mind like,
eventually we're gonna end this
and we're gonna stay married
and we're not gonna say anything.
I don't think she was gonna leave him, I don't know.
I mean.
Who knows?
Maybe, someone said that she slipped recently on her show
and said, well, we're all single
when she was talking to like, Erica Jay. So maybe there was show and said, well, we're all single. And she was talking to like, Erica Jane.
So maybe there was talk and maybe because also recently,
you know, she is, you know, a survivor of skin cancer.
She was speaking at some big event and Edward was there and they posted photos
of them kissing and everything.
And then he wrote something really nice about her.
So I'm thinking he didn't know what was up.
No.
And I think maybe she was just having her fun
and wasn't planning on it getting out
and not planning on telling him
and kind of seeing like, where will this go?
Maybe this is the, maybe I had an itch
and this was able to scratch it
and maybe I'm able to compartmentalize it
and go forward just like he cheated. I don't know. People are different. People have open marriages. People cheat and they stay
with their person. Women know that their husbands have the whole mistress thing going on and they're
like, I don't care. Like everybody has a different thing. But then when you're a public person, then
you have to know that people are going to talk and judge and question your motives and everything.
That could have been 13 years of resentment,
just came out and she was like,
never dealt with it, never truly, you know,
like people do that too where you stay and you stay
and you, but you didn't really deal with it
and then all of a sudden you're like,
well I'm gonna fuck him over now.
And I guess there's some prenup that,
he has the money, which I did not realize,
he's quite successful and he's insisting
that the prenup be honored.
So we will see.
Well, the good news is that Edwin and Eddie,
Tamara's husband, they have two Eds in a pod.
And so as long as that continues,
she can get a portion of that and do just fine.
She'll be his boss forever.
I mean, just a juggernaut of talent.
Like as if that's going to continue with the divorce happening.
Real Housewives of New York, the new cast.
Word on the street, everyone just says it's like the boringest thing ever.
I did not watch it, but I did see a clip. And I was like, oh, well now this seems kind of juicy.
Where Erin tells Brynn and this other girl
that Rebecca Minkoff, who is the handbag designer and stuff,
who's also Jewish but an active Scientologist.
But she's barely been in the show and all Brindezic out,
is she selling more bags at Nordstrom Rack?
I'm gonna get your dad.
And she's like, well, I built a hundred million dollar
business and yeah, so I'm happy to be at Nordstrom Rack.
Like, where's your bags, you fucking idiot.
Anyway, so then I see this clip and Erin goes,
well, Rebecca is pregnant.
And she's very sensitive because she's pregnant.
And they're like, what?
Brynn's like, what?
Oh my God.
And then she goes, and she doesn't know who the dad is.
And she's married or whatever.
She has like four little kids.
Like she just finished breastfeeding
and she's pregnant again.
And I was like, well, wow,
like maybe the show is gonna get good.
Like this is like Mia on Potomac
who doesn't know who the father is of her nine year old.
Like, well, like is it her ex-boyfriend
or her husband Gordon?
Like, so I was like, all right,
like this is trashy, but maybe good.
Well anyway, it was a prank.
Oh.
Oh no, don't be doing, no.
I guess I now, I did not watch it,
but I guess Erin and maybe Rebecca Minkoff said,
oh, you should say I'm pregnant.
That's just stupid.
That's lame.
And then, that's like finding out the movie
was all a dream and you're just so pissed.
Or the whole season of the last season of Roseanne or whatever.
She never really did win the lottery.
You're like, what?
OK, so but it is weird because just yesterday when the show aired is when people dropped
the fact that Erin, who came up with the funny prank, is actually pregnant with her fourth
child.
Yeah. And I just think, come on, you guys,
like pregnancy pranks and things when your audience
is 90% women who struggle to get pregnant,
want to get pregnant, don't want to be pregnant,
have miscarriages, IVF, like really, lying that you're...
And you're that hard up for anything?
Like, why don't you try getting actual friends? I say right now April Fool's please no pregnancy please
don't certainly not right now don't lie I think now's not the time yeah don't
think that's not the time yes I agree I think we're let's read the room and
funny jokes about somebody getting pregnant and then yeah okay that's not the time.
Yeah, okay.
So anyway, the show is pretty dismal.
Well hopefully she gets to stay on
and she can show up next year to BravoCon in her underwear.
And her bumps.
Yeah, she can wear her underwear with her pregnancy belly.
She is pretty and she does look good with her big.
Yeah, she is really pretty.
Yeah, with her belly and she's cute, but whatever.
And also her whole storyline this year is that she's telling her husband Abe, I could
do a lot better than you.
I used to go on private jets and I'm mad at you because you sold her Bitcoin without telling
me.
So, you know, you got to keep up with what I could have married.
Because she comes from money, right?
No, she doesn't come from that much money, but she basically says,
she basically is having conversations with her husband's like,
with her husband basically saying, do better.
Like he was like, I'm sorry.
And she's like, don't say you're sorry, do better.
And it was just like, so then, so you're watching it thinking,
okay, they're probably gonna get divorced.
But now she's pregnant.
And when she was on my show a year ago,
she said how great their marriage was,
that they boned all the time and everything.
And then I'm watching this where she's being such a bitch
reminding him like she used to get hotter, richer guys.
So now I think this show has nothing.
There's no, their lack of personality,
their lack of storyline, they have no history.
So I think they know whether it's with a producer or themselves.
Like maybe the producer was like, have you ever fought with your husband?
Yeah, about a year ago I was pissed about the Bitcoin being sold.
All right, bring it up at lunch.
Let's watch a fight and all this stuff.
And then I'm sure they have other fun moments, but those aren't going to make it.
So they're only going to film when he like accidentally spills coffee on her.
And she's like, really Abe?
And now we found out she's pregnant.
I'm like, what is this?
Yeah, boring.
No, fake.
Boring.
Well, here we go.
Megan Fox is pregnant and she announced her pregnancy
to Machine Gun Kelly's baby.
They are on again off again engaged whatever.
She has three kids with Brian Austin green and this is what she posted which was just
her naked body with black tar spilled on her or whatever black paint.
And then I went to her page just 21.6 million6 million followers, following zero and only has one post.
So this is a dramatic thing that she did
with her Instagram, like I'm cleaning it,
it's a fresh start now that I'm soaking in black tar
and I'm pregnant naked with machine gun,
you guys stopped talking about me about six months ago
and guess what, now you're gonna have to talk about
our little devil baby or whatever they're gonna do with it.
And she, well, she had a miscarriage.
And so she wrote this thing that's everywhere,
like rainbow baby.
And I'm like, is it gay?
I don't get it.
I didn't know that was a term, but now I know.
But she had a miscarriage.
And I thought what she wrote,
I don't know if it was on this black tar thing,
but at some point she-
Yeah, here it is.
She just wrote, nothing is ever really lost. I don't know if it was on this black tar thing, but at some point she- Yeah, here it is.
She just wrote, nothing is ever really lost.
Yeah, I think that's so beautiful.
Like I think there was one more line after it,
like I already love you, or I don't even know,
but it's like going through miscarriages,
obviously horrific.
Obviously, and they have been together a long time,
whether it's tumultuous, whether they never get married.
I met them at, where
did I meet them? The weekend of Coachella, or stage coach. And he really was a delight.
He was really, really nice. I said, I listen to your music all the time. It's like my inspirational
music before I go out on stage. And she had the blue hair and she was nice, a little more
reserved but nice. But I was talking to him.
And so she's 38, he's 34, he has a 15 year old daughter from a first relationship. But
apparently he and Brian Austin Green allegedly don't get along.
Yeah, I mean that would make sense. That is an annoying relationship to have to witness.
They are a lot.
Yeah.
So we'll see.
Okay.
I also just came across Tinsley Mortimer.
And I just want to say, what a happily ever after.
I think this is the best happily ever after of I left a real Housewives franchise on my
own accord and this is what happened.
She had those frozen embryos or eggs, not even embryos, she had frozen eggs where she
and her mom cried about it.
Dorinda was like, where did you go?
You're sticking turkey based stuff there to try to get pregnant?
Really awful.
She had the coupon king that fucked her over too.
He was disgusting.
She left and Dorinda was all pissed at the final,
because she didn't show up to the reunion.
It was so baller.
Was it the reunion or the final?
Yeah, the final night and the reunion.
It was so great.
Tinsley was like a star.
She was like, I'm out and she meets this adorable,
cute guy who has three kids, who's a widower.
And she's got these little kids.
So she has twin daughters now and a cute boy.
And I went through like her photos
and she's super active mom.
And it is like, it's literally a Hallmark movie.
That's amazing. It's a Hallmark movie.
And she gets to be rich too.
And they appear to be very rich.
Oh, slow clap. Slow clap for Tinsley appear to be very rich. Oh, slow clap.
Slow clap for Tinsley.
Slow clap for Tinsley, slow clap for Justice.
Why hung out with the housewives?
Like peace, get out of my business.
I'm tired of being treated like shit.
Carol was like, I'm not even friends with her
after Carol set her up with that gross guy.
That disgusting monster.
And she was so desperate to marry him
because she just wanted the family.
And sometimes ladies, life's rejection is God's protection.
Look what was waiting around the corner
and perfect, fabulous.
And she is not, I don't know how often she posts,
I mean, she just popped up.
So I think she's just living her life,
living her private, rich, fabulous mom life
and not, you know, it's just the most ideal situation
for everybody involved.
And so good for her.
Mm-hmm. Great for her.
The universe is always taking you
where you need to go right into taking care of dolls.
Reborn cosplay mom of many on TikTok.
Now we've talked about these newborn babies,
which are like, they just wanna have a baby.
But I somehow came across this person
who really takes it far.
She's got like six kids.
And she basically, just like a trad wife,
will do videos of like, today I woke
up I got the twins ready and then I made some applesauce from scratch and then I made my
husband's lunch and then oh my daughter said she really wanted homemade fruit roll-up so
I did that. She's doing that but with these dolls. And then she's like and for those of
you that are mad,
I'm not wasting the food.
I just, I put it in front of them.
Tomato, the other day should be tomato soup
and grilled cheese.
Put it in front of them.
One, she let one of them have screen time.
So I'm not kidding.
It's all, oh, recently she took them to the beach
with her dad too, and the twins got to go to the beach
and put their toes in the sand.
And she does it all.
And then, but then she goes,
but then I put the food back in the fridge
and that's like what I have for dinner.
But I just want to have the experience
of like making lunch for my kids.
And she said it's not real formula
because people were like,
you're wasting the formula.
Now this to me is, okay.
I don't wanna, okay.
Heather just introduces us to such gross stuff
that we never would see.
She made us watch that weird doc about like masturbating.
Oh yeah, oh God.
That's part of the lawsuit when we break up.
Yes, yeah, like the flicking of the finger, oh God.
Okay, so, just saying, ah.
Like that's the orgasm.
That was like, there was all these people doing yoga,
and then it's like, rrraaaar.
Like, oh, Jesus Christ.
Like, please, please, I need a minute.
So this lady, it's like, okay, this is the prime example of,
again, I mean, for me, I always, for whatever reason,
I think like, what do men do, what do women do?
Men, the opposite of this are the men who marry live dolls
and have sex with live full dolls.
They're not live.
It's all, you know what I mean?
Before I interrupt, I'm just gonna say that
in the news over the weekend, Lamar Odom
filmed him visiting his doll that he's having made.
That the people, he didn't say it,
but the people at home said it looks a lot like Chloe.
So, Lamar Odom is making a sex doll.
To keep.
To keep, okay.
For himself. Right.
That looks like Chloe.
I mean, I can't, so.
Okay.
To continue, go on.
But that's the prime example.
Men's fantasies of whatever cosplay
is always gonna be sexual,
and this woman's of having a family and having babies.
And being busy.
They are, oh God, they wake up early.
They wake up early.
The level she is going into,
the minuteness of the nuance of life,
and then showing the food.
So she puts them all around the table,
and she's like,
and Tina's having scrambled eggs.
And I'm like, those look horrific.
And then she was like,
and there's some grilled cheese for you
and Mary has this.
And then she put them, the dolls,
and she then places the doll and changes their clothes.
But now we have to go out
because we're gonna go out for the day. So right there, they're wearing pajamas cause they woke up, but she does change their clothes. But now we have to go out because we're going to go out for the day.
So right there, they're wearing pajamas
because they woke up,
but she does change their clothes.
Well, she has to. She's a mom.
I know she's a mom.
She wouldn't even be able to make the scrambled eggs
if they were real kids
because they'd be bugging so hard
and they'd be screaming and yelling and running around.
Like there's so many of them.
It's like you wouldn't be able to make
all those different meals.
It makes me feel so weird and I feel sad.
And I don't feel that way with the sex dolls
even though I think it's gross and I hate them.
But then I think that's like, this feels just like,
I don't know, I can't explain it, made me feel bad.
Like why is she?
She just needs to go be a babysitter.
Well she's a stay at home mom,
she doesn't go to daycare and hopefully she's not.
Yeah why isn't she a daycare,
why doesn't she go work with kids?
Just go be a babysitter.
Work in a hospital.
You get to do all cosplay.
Obviously, she probably couldn't, she probably can't
because she's probably mentally ill.
Yeah.
But at least she's not hurting anyone.
That's true.
She's not trying to steal a baby
or befriend a pregnant woman and then tie her up
and cut her out like I've seen those Lifetime movies
and get the baby herself.
You're right.
So she likes that it's a doll.
So on the other hand, let's commend her for not stealing a baby from a pregnant woman's
womb.
Just like let's commend the guy for not killing his wife and instead faking his own death.
The world is a scary place and we have to look for the lesser of two evils.
You're absolutely right.
And you know what?
These kids have a great life they jail
They have a mom that loves them. She takes care of them. She makes grandpa
They have a grandpa the beach look and you know what she's to go to the beach
They sit around the table. She makes quality time for them. The one looks like it's in a straight jacket
She's an a full high chair. That's fine. All those little
girl children look like they're wearing long lady hair wings but it's totally fine. Okay.
And everyone should watch it and I just I'll keep watching though. Watch this space. I mean
real housewives. Okay moving on. Real housewives of OC., then we're gonna wrap it up. Real Housewives of O.C.,
I again saw a clip that will have aired tonight, okay, of episode two of The Reunion.
And Jen is really holding her own.
She's one of the newest girls.
And she says to, this clip comes from-
That set just gags, it's so good.
Bravo by Gaze are the people that posted this.
I don't know how they got it.
How did they get the first seven minutes of this?
But anyway, I watched the first seven minutes of the episode and but I appreciate them posting.
And so she says, you know, Jen says to Heather, like you even told me that you're not even
real friends with Tamra after all these years when we went to lunch." And
she goes, I did not say that, Jen. I did not say this. And then Jen's like, you did. You said that
Tamara is a historic friend. She's a historic friend. They kept talking about historic friend.
And then she's like, I would not say that. And the comments under here were like, that's totally
something Heather would say. So then I looked it up and I figured what it was,
but just I said, what is the meaning of a historic friend?
Cause I'm like, there's histrionic,
which means you're like have a mental thing.
And then there's historic.
So I was like, am I miss here?
You've been friends since you were little
and managed to stay friends through the years.
You got used to each other, but most likely would not be friends if you met today.
So like all of our family.
Or like, yeah, you have this history.
She has a history with Tamara from being on the show.
They are work friends and they have a history because how many people on this earth have
been through what they have been through?
Very, very few, and half of them they hate, you know,
because they've been fired or whatever.
So they have this history.
So I 100% believe that she said it to Jen.
And none of us are surprised at home.
Like, you really think that Heather DeBrow
would want to be hanging out with camera
if there were not
cameras around or about to start filming them again.
It doesn't even seem like that bad of a thing to say.
No, it's not.
I did not say that, Jen.
That's how you know she said it.
Right.
Why not just say like...
You do have...
What's the problem?
At this point, it's not even that bad of a thing to say you don't like Tamara.
It's actually kind of like a fight.
And I'm sure she did say, hey, look, you know, we have our thing and we've been through a
lot.
So I see where she's coming from.
She's a historical friend for me.
So it's like we're always going to have a bond.
It's probably what she said.
Nothing wrong with that.
Yeah.
But this is where Heather will lose credibility because now you're, it's too specific to be a lie. That's all I can say. Like historic friend and everyone's
like googling it like that's a term I never heard. I would never. I mean. And then her then she and
Emily like went and went to through the archives or got a detective or got Bo Deedle or something.
So down in the new girl, Katie's life.
And Katie is divorced.
And-
Which one's Katie and which one's Jen?
Katie's this pretty Korean girl who was adopted
and then got married quite young
because she got pregnant.
Okay.
And had three, yes, three kids with that man.
And clearly it was a bad divorce.
And she hasn't shared everything and she doesn't have to.
And one of her minor kids still lives with the dad who's like 14, but she sees him all
the time.
And they go in and they're like, 10 years ago, there was a police report written about
a, basically it sounds like a road rage thing
might have happened with her and somebody else. I'm not going to get to the details.
They tell the whole story on the reunion. She tells her side and Emily, I'm an attorney
and I want espresso martini. She knows because he finally passed the bar too, that when you
read a police report, cops don't lie. I'm like, excuse me?
Like, okay.
And then, and so I don't know, but it's just not adding up.
Why don't you tell the truth?
And I'm like, if your goal, Heather and Emily
was to get this girl, Katie, not asked back
for the second season, you just got her ass back.
Because now I'm like, all right,
I wanna know a little bit more.
What happened here? What is it? And why are they going after you so hardcore?
And again, it's like this whole this stuff is like either it was, um, you said this on a podcast
about my shoulders and because of that, you're not a real friend. I said, you're a historical friend.
Just show us what we're actually seeing on film.
Like, I don't even want to know what happened 10 years ago
before we even knew that you existed.
In a different state.
And that used to be the rule.
Like if you didn't film it, you don't show it.
Right.
But now it's like, oh, you were on a podcast six months ago
and you're fighting over,
remember they'd always fight over the blogs they do.
That's why I think they stopped doing it because they had to write that and then so many of
them would just hire someone to do it, which is basically them watching the episode and
then writing their feelings about it.
And so then there would be, and the only person I think wrote it themselves was Carol Radzwell.
Like she was the only one that would actually do it.
Everybody else would get, because I remember one time Teresa,
they called her on it and they're like,
really, did you really write this is like napalm?
Like, I don't believe it, Teresa.
Like you don't even know what a chive is.
You don't know what napalm.
Like, it's so like, and then she's like,
well, you know, and so then I think they were like, okay.
And they all were happy to get rid of it
because it was like an extra assignment, you know?
And then it would get them in trouble.
But that was before podcasts.
So now, yeah, that was,
but at least that was like their own personal feelings,
like a diary.
It wasn't them being asked a provocative question
on a live radio show.
And then that's what we're following
over and over and over again.
Yeah.
So very annoying, but kind of juicy.
Anyway, to finish up the show.
Oh, God.
JoJo Siwa got to perform at Brown University.
And JoJo will be with us when I, on Monday night,
am hosting the American Reality TV Awards.
And I am very excited.
And you guys are my guests.
Can't wait.
And Jojo Siwa, I believe is a presenter,
along with us and other illustrious people
in the reality TV world.
And, you know, according to Abby Lee Miller,
she is a loyal delight.
And I have to say, it looked pretty fun
what she was doing here. She was doing
Karma's a Bitch and she's dancing around.
Karma's a bitch, I said I know battle.
Yeah.
I can't remember the rest of the song.
And then they said did your college host free JoJo concert? And then someone was like it's
not free that's what you pay so much for and I will say some of my highest
paychecks early in my career
was when I performed at a college and I was like, God, they don't have to pay people this
much. They really don't. And then no one would go.
I have the same experience. They have a budget. They have to spend it. Otherwise they won't
get that budget again.
So they have to and it's always exorbitant. It's always great or it's super it's super higher
It's super like weird but for the most part
It's like this crazy amount of money and then three people are in the audience
Because they don't go to anything because everyone's out they don't care or I remember I did it and I was like thinking
Oh, I should talk about sororities and fraternities
I'm like no these kids loved my bits about just being a mom because
they were just with their mom. Like they're young. The only people that go are like the
freshmen, you know? The older people don't go. But yeah, good for her.
So good for her. Can't wait to see her live. Absolutely. And then Britney Spears, she paid
her last child support payment to Jayden's dad's,FED. And then he came to visit her, which is nice.
And hopefully they'll hang out more.
And then this video show came out from 2016
in which she talked about her conservative ship
on a TV show years before it ended.
But the clip was edited out of the episode
and now it's just showing.
So even back then, and she seemed very coherent,
was like, well, now with the concerted show,
I have to do all these things I don't wanna do
and creatively I don't have a lot of say.
Wow.
So that was just kind of interesting,
but I just hope that she hangs out with her son.
I hope the kids start treating her right.
Yeah, and that they now can have just an adult relationship
separate from the dad and his money
and going to school or whatever.
Oh my gosh.
So girls, you're here for a bit.
We are going.
We're going to be here.
We're going to have such a fun weekend this weekend.
We are going to the Vanderpump Dogg Gala, which
have been many years. I think
they do it every other year because I definitely didn't go last year but I went two years ago.
You guys are coming along with my sister Yellow Flower Goldstein and that'll be really fun.
And then my thing on Monday and what else have you going on in the Brandy and Julie dumb gay podcast
world?
Well, I mean, okay, so dumb gay podcast is going to come back.
We don't know for sure.
We don't know for sure.
But obviously the we have our Patreon and we have a regular podcast.
The regular podcast is definitely delving into politics now. So we're going to be with humor and for those people
who think that they can't have a voice or whatever
or whatever it is, we are a liberal podcast,
but we do try and sort of give it to everyone.
Then there's our Patreon where we don't do any of that
and we just do weird shit.
We just do dumb shit.
It's just funny.
Like this.
We do like this. But more weird shit. We just do dumb shit. It's just funny. Like this. Like exactly, yeah.
We do like this, we do music, we do all,
we do food tasting, we do all weird things.
And it's just for fun.
No issues.
Love it. At all.
And they can find all that at?
JulianBrandy.com.
Or just Google Julian Brandy podcasts.
It's all there.
Julian Brandy Patreon.
Join, sign up, change your life.
Yeah, change your life.
Have some friends.
Have some.
And we're all just, it's an exciting time.
Yes.
That's all I'm gonna say, it's an exciting time.
For our throuple.
It really is.
Oh yeah, for our.
For our throuple.
For our, our throuple is going.
Is going.
The sky is the limit. the sky is about to get
bluer
Possible right there you go. All right. Love you guys. Thank you so much