Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Brandy and Julie, RHSLC, The Golden Bachelor and RHOC

Episode Date: September 24, 2025

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Heather McDonald has got the Juicy Scoot when you're on the road, when you're on the go. Juicy Scoop is the show to know she talks Hollywood Tales for real life Mr. Sigmund Serial Data and Serial Sister, you'll be addicted and addicted fast to the number one tabloid real life podcast. Listen in, listen to whew, Heather McDonald's. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. My Juicy Scoopers are so lucky today because rounding out the week of the funniest females I know, we have the two best girls around Julie Goldman, Brandy Howard, stars of television, stage, and film, and also the hosts of Dumb Gay Podcast, and one of our favorite patrons that we subscribe to.

Oh, my God. Well, Peter is an honorary member of the Patreon. He's not honorary member, meaning honorary, almost like part of the show? Yes. Like every time, Julie's like, Peter, Peter, I know you're listening, Peter. And then he texted, he goes, I was listening to his great show. It's one of my favorite things in the world. See, we all support each other and you should too, because they're so funny.

And you're heading off in a little bit to San Francisco to do your show. Yes, we're going around, the next round of Nightmare on Strip Street is going to San Francisco to the Great Star Theater, and we are going to be hosting and doing our bits and doing our things. And it's a fun, fun, fun, fun, so fun show. Especially around Halloween. Yes, and San Francisco. And that's a great time to visit San Francisco. If you don't live there, there's no better time to go than late September, October, in my opinion. And you should consider it.

Can I say, though, that we are truly gutted and saddened that we will not be in your elite gated community for Halloween, which we were at a Jewish New Year celebration last night. Happy Rosh Hashanah, everybody. Yes. I was getting kind of jealous because I have, you know, a couple Jewish friends, you guys being. So you said you're going to a fun dinner. And then I did pickleball and my friend was going to the fun dinner for the holiday. And I was like, what do they serve? Like, I was just like, wanted to be part of it.

Yeah. Well, our whole dinner ended up being about how Baller the Halloween celebration is in here. Oh, they knew people that in here. And they, I mean, they're legends of full candy bars, iPhones given out. iPads. I'm like, trivia contests. I need a new iPhone. I know.

Lining up around the street. I have heard the iPad story. I thought it was urban myth. Is it not? Apparently, it's real. And they saw it firsthand. their children and I'm like I have an iPhone 13 so I'm pretty disappointed I'm not going to we were considering yeah like possibly if we were going to be here dressing up as children

well the large children are not turned away like they are in some they're encouraged because the parents and the kids all hang out and yes you guys would have been invited but instead the lucky people of San Francisco are enjoying the art form where can I see all three of together possibly in the fall. I can't believe you don't know that you can because November 14th in Las Vegas at the NGM Grand, we will be doing a very hysterical, variety, funny, stand-up, snarky, impressions, bravo-centric pop culture show, singing, dancing, surprise guess. It is going to be a bonanza. And that is 10 o'clock Friday, the first night of the official bravo-con weekend. and tickets have been selling so well.

There are still some available, and you want to get those and get on it and do your fun thing because we had so much fun last year. So much fun. And didn't we do it two years? We've done other Vegas. We've done other Vegas shows.

But the BravoCon was two years ago. It's back. Again, a great time to be in Las Vegas in November. So we'll see you then. But now let's get into, since we're talking about Bravo, let's get into Real House. of Salt Lake City last night. Now, I had Zach on last week, and there was some mixed reviews

of the first episode that they went camping. It was a little sticky. They did a Blair Witch thing. They're running around. Lisa Barlow wasn't there. I didn't realize that Lisa Barlow wasn't there because she was still negotiating her contract. Juicy. So now she's back. And it's really disturbing because these women are not me. I run Vita Tequila along with multi other businesses. And sometimes you do get lawsuits that don't even matter. They don't matter. They're years ago. And it's a case of just straight up jealousy and stupidity. I have the greatest family. I've given up so much to be this incredible person. I'm on a completely different level than these other women. And I don't appreciate it at all. So she's back. And I have to say,

and then we get your opinion, I thought last night's episode was, Fantastic. For so many reasons, which I want to go through, because there were several great scenes as women as moms. Besides the snarky juice, there were some great scenes. So I am back obsessed, excited for the season. What did you guys think so far? I really enjoyed last night. I agree about the first episode. It, I, a lot of it, even the beginning of last night's episode was them acting like they wake up in the bed Mary what happened last night I'm like oh god like let's just get away from this bullshit like let's get into the so when we finally like they finally get going and it's no it's not being overproduced I thought it like really was awesome

and I mean we can't live without Lisa we need Lisa in there so the first great scene that I thought as a mom that's kind of lived through what Heather Gay is living through I thought I thought that was so believable and refreshing when she sat and she said, I got divorced when the girls were young. He never had the kids on an overnight. So she wasn't that mom that got to benefit by having a week on, you know, or a weekend off or whatever. That shocked me. And she had to be the smiley, happy mom. And she's thrilled for it to end. She wants the job to end. The youngest one is going off to college in the fall. And so this, when this is being filmed, she's a senior going through the acceptance letters, which is a big pain in the ass. And she's just like, I'm thrilled. I'm happy

it's over. And I, and she's just sharing her true feelings. And then, um, Bronwyn says, I'm the opposite. I had my child young. And she had to work before she got with Todd. And now she doesn't want her child to go off to college. So in order to keep her there, she's moved in the boyfriend, letting them fucking eat under the roof so that she can get her nails done for another year or two

before sending the girl off to college. Of course there has to be conflict, whatever. Heather took it the wrong way because I don't like each other. I was team Bronwyn on that. I don't think she was. I think she was literally saying, oh, isn't that interesting

how women always have guilt and deal with it differently? And then I loved that Whitney chimed in. Don't love the red hair. Don't know why no one's addressing that. Julie has been nonstop I don't know Zach I'm like no blonde girl

that was like raised blonde and has blonde hair her whole life should ever switch to the red unless you're getting paid to be in a movie it is not a good idea but it's funny if the other Whitney on Mormon wives tried that too and it was a total flop no it's I just don't understand it I just don't

remember when Patty Stanger used to be such a bitch on million dollar what was it called millionaire matchmaker and she used this before she had her work done before she met an olympic pen whatever she looks freaking amazing now patty yeah but she would sit there and the whole fun of the show was she was the worst almond mom boomer that you could create and a woman who's just screaming at you about your looks yeah and she'd be like get rid of the red hair all men hate red hair i won't i won't accept a red head at my cocktail party either go blonde or brunette

or dark hair no redheads and i was like oh my god i don't think I think that's true. I think there's very gorgeous redheads, obviously. Julianne Moore. And my mom always said, oh, my God, a redhead with green eyes that only wears green is the best beautiful combination. I agree. I'm just saying with a whitmy that's a sexy blonde, a short redhead bob not doing it for me. Brandy, I would say, on Dallas housewives. I love when they have like dark skin and red hair and like brown eyes. But she's meant to be redhead. She birthed out other redhead kids. Right. That's what she's saying. Like she thinks it's beautiful. That's why Whitney went red because she wanted her redhead kid to match her. To match her. I agree. And I was like, no, no. But I also do think she saw

like the force, like she was just like, you know what? I'm desperate to keep this job because she's... I feel that I have to keep this job. I have my feelings. So she needed to stand out. And she's like, I'm going to set... She cut the ball, did the red and she's trying to like... Now, what she could have done also, which apparently

Heather Gay did, was to take all the feeling out of her lips. and then she could have red hair and not be able to talk so she could go I feel that maybe I could potentially have this power of me they can't

Heather's Heather it's Andrew's too much filler and she said it is the thing she said I put too much Botox in my lips and now they're numb and now she can't or jubiderm or whatever it is

yeah but the level that they can't put their words together they can't do it or in Angie particularly they can't do it Speaking of our girl, Aubrey O'Day, which by the way, our best friend, maybe you don't belong to the Heather McDonald, juicy scoop, um, patron because at the first tier level, which is only $5, we have posted

the video from our Palm Springs weekend and we can watch it at lunch. Great. I don't want to make you pay the $5 to join. It is so funny. Right. People are like, who did this? Drake edited it. saying it feels like the office they would watch this every week it's the funniest thing you guys

are totally in it doing funny shit anyway so obrio day performed at this event that we went to a couple weeks ago i got i caught a clip of the show that she's doing with dr terry de bro about and the and other people about like deflating your face it's literally about deflating your face so she which is why she looks so beautiful again so they yeah so they said okay you know it's like the opposite of swan are you ready to walk out of here and she's like yes but before I do and she takes off like a wig topper like she has hair underneath that is not thin there's no ball spot it just kind of frizzy takes off the wig topper and then she returns with auburn hair and and the comments are like wait she left with another wig she comes back with a

different more subtle wig but they did they did show her lips that they had deflated and they look so much better because sometimes when people lip filler is is a great invention for people but when it gets to be that there's no definition like they're the hot dog lips they're two full that's when you need to just go down and and do it a little so you can like align them you know how it is julie how when did you first get your lips done well as a woman with dick sucking lips such as myself it is sorry drake but it it really does you know I mean we were gonna go do it I wanted to get like my I've never had mine done and I wanted to do it and I'm scared and I'm like, Julie, you do it too.

And she was good. I was going to make her do it with me. First of all, the last thing you need to do is put anything in your lips. Your lips are perfect. Yeah, you do have a nice full lips. Thank you. Like secondly, I think that maybe, and again, agree.

Get, do you, be happy, whatever, who cares? But if you are having trouble forming words, I think that's when you go, maybe there's too much in my lips. Well, getting back to the scene. So our girl Whitney, who revealed that she really made a mistake with her business and I also appreciated that

where she's like I don't know we just we had a company it was an MLM some people on TikTok have gotten really nasty Justin and I put all of our money into it we rebranded for the 18th time it's Rosewater and Justin LBT QI

skincare and I'm like oh God and so anyway so she sits there and then she I appreciate it too because she goes oh my God And now I would want nothing more to, because Heather's saying, you know, in the Mormon religion, we were raised to just be a wife and mother. And it meant so much to me that it built this other business that I'm doing this fun thing along with the show, but they can't say that.

And then Whitney goes, on the other hand, I would do anything just to be a stay-at-home mom. Like, fuck working. Like I always remember Natasha Legerro, a very funny comedian. She had the funniest joke where she was like, who started this like women? like I would much rather just be drinking martinis and having a casserole and you know she's like what is this and it's true so she was kind of like wow I would do anything for Justin to be the breadwinner again and for me just to like have these last you know whatever years are left with her elementary age kids and enjoy herself which I think a lot of women face too when the you want the

business you want to feel like a powerful woman but when it doesn't work out then you're like Screw this. I'd like to just make a casserole and wear my Lulu lemons. Noon nooners, just have martini's at noon. Justin got, I think, let go from his job where he was really well paid because she was deep-throating champagne bottles. Oh, you're right. There was that.

So they had to do what Eddie and Tamara did where some producer, I'm just going to guess, maybe a gay producer, convince them, you know, it'd be fun. If we, if you guys acted out, your kinky shit. so we're going to bring in some sweaty cameraman and you guys are going to put body paint on your bodies and roll around in your living room under like they put out they had to put like a hazmat thing over the rug the drop plop and they had to slather around in like body paint of course Tamara and Eddie did the bubble bath scene then you know and then meredith was like bubble baths is my thing and I'm like um camera did it first okay Tamara

was the first to get in a I mean I can't imagine going hey Peter after you're done golfing all the cameramen are going to be here and I need you to act like you like I need you to go into the bathroom which by the way I've never even used the bathtub because Peter has a thing about how much water it takes to fill a bathtub and he's like you got a pool in a jacuzzi outside okay and also don't forget Drake's going to be there like being like a PA while you guys do your sexy lovemaking scene in the hot tub And then I'm like, okay, Peter, just take off your, take off your, just go down to like your speedos and speedos. And we're going to get into this tub and then I'm going to act like I'm sticking my giant toe in your taint.

Right. And you wonder why then when they come back from, you know, having the season air that like maybe they're a little fucked up. And it has taken well over, I would say, four years for Julie to get past that taint scene for, and jump back to Meredith. Like that really turned her off. It really turned me off. But now I do want to say that since Taintgate, yeah, since Taintgate, whatever that was. And it really did turn me off the stuff even more than Meredith. However, I, I am, we are, we are back on Meredith.

Like, Meredith is giving it all. I don't, I'll take vums and all of it. I love every single word that comes out of her mouth. We watched NextGen NYC. She came on there. She was so charming on there and so likable and just made us fall in love with her again. I'm going to get the caviar. I'm going to try it.

I'm going to do it. And I mean, shout out to the scene where they give the champagne through the, first of all, that was amazing. So they go to a woman. I don't know if this girl wants to be on the show or just was like, sure, I have a big fancy party every year. Sure, bring in the cameras. So they're like, there isn't a big social. except for Susie's social Saturday or whatever. And so everyone's dressed to the nines and an afternoon party.

And they come to this fancy woman's house. And that's when some shit goes down. But prior to that, I just want to get into the Mary scene with her son. So Mary is the one who married her step-grandfather and ran her grandmother, rest in peace, cult-like church, which we went to. And I visited it. I looked through peers through the way. window. They say she does talk about it. I don't know if she's still doing it. I don't know. But there was some interesting stuff there. People really fell in love with Mary, her weird,

quirky lines, but also she shared and her son shared that he was a drug addict. And he went off to rehab and they have a scene where he comes back to film this scene. And she asked, how is he doing? And he seems very out of it. And he says, well, I've replaced. stuff with other things she's like like what and he goes food and she's like who and he's like and weed or whatever so she's like did you smoke today and he's like yes and I'm going to say something a little controversial maybe oh god do you think when you told your son after you got back from rehab hey at five o'clock tonight we're going to film you talking about your drug problem on camera and you don't think that might have added to his anxiety

where he was like, I need to, I need to fucking get high for this. Take him off camera, you guys. Sorry, we don't need to see this kid on camera anymore until he's like, not 30 days sober, five years sober. Hopefully, maybe she worked out a deal. I remember in the past, the OC women had told me that like Brianna would get paid and sometimes Ryan would get paid because they were over 18. Maybe he's getting, you know, two grand to do this scene.

And maybe that's paying for, hopefully that's not. what he's using the money for, but maybe it's paying for something. I don't know. I know people appreciated seeing the rawness of it at this point. If you're doing weed before you have to do a reality show scene, that tells me you have anxiety about it and you don't want to tell your mom that you don't want to do it. Or she's saying you have to do it. That's part of the deal.

And you're nervous. Yeah. Coping. It's a good point. It's a very good point. I would have one million percent support that. The scenes are sad. They're really sad.

They're really sad. And yes, it is really. And it is good to watch at home because sadly so many of us are going through it and and have Greg, are you stoned right now before your job? No. But like, listen, you know, I've revealed like my brothers, you know, dealt with it. I used to go to rehab meetings for my brother when I was 13 and heard all that. That was when I first kind of fell in love with like juicy life stories. I was like, oh my God, this is like pretty interesting. Classic Heather. No, it was pretty interesting. I remember this girl like, you know, stood up and told her story of how she was like a high class call girl to pay

for it. And then she was stunning. And then we went and then we would look at the Zaget guy and go out to dinner a new restaurant every night, every Wednesday in Beverly Hills. So that was kind of fun. And then we'd sit out and my mom would be like, oh my God, that girl had the face of an angel, you know, like how could this happen? And then I remember this other guy was a TV executive and he said, my friends aren't accepting that I'm not like drinking and doing Coke anymore. So I created a drink that looks like a cocktail, but it's not. And he was faking that he was still drinking while like doing movie deals. And I was like, this is some fucking juicy shit.

It's bad, but juicy. I get why it's interesting to people. And her struggle is real. And I think as a mom, she's doing the best she can, except either she or the producers are making this kid be on camera. And I don't think he should be on camera. And that's my personal opinion. I mean, I think that's completely valid.

And he seems like you can tell that he's not fully. He already admitted that he's, I'm, you know, doing it with something else and whatever and seems super depressed. And not only that, even if he wasn't doing, let's say he wasn't smoking pot or whatever, he clearly has like a depression issue. That was really interesting that him revealing and being open about like he's isolating and he had to get rid of all. his friends. I was really sad. I mean, it's true. And he's like, and he was really too the way he explained rehab and why people don't believe that necessarily traditional rehab works when you hear that a Brooke Mueller, you know, Charlie's ex has gone 21 times or whatever in that you go to this place where you have this routine every day and there's no drugs around only to then go back

to the place where the drugs and the people were. Right. And think that you're going to have the tools not to resist. That's why I'm always like, I don't. No. I believe sometimes there are better plans. And if it cost $40,000 for 30 days, aren't there sober coaches that could like move into your house for, for $20,000 a month, $5,000 a week, and literally be with you and teach you how to live in the real world? I know people are going to freak out with this, but whatever. I think that's fair. I don't think there's any, I think that in that you're giving as much grace as you possibly can, you look at someone each person's different.

And at the end of the day, you can go to rehab 21 times and you're going 21 times, dare I say, as an addict to my own self, because you don't want to get sober. So there is a part of personal responsibility that goes with it too. Yeah. So it's not just one thing. It's multiple things that for people that, you know, depending on the drug too, I guess. Are a thing and they're very effective and especially when people are alone, spending a lot of time alone. And I mean, they did tell him, we're not going to babysit you. And I was like, well,

that could be one of the problems as well. He might need some help. He might need a babysitter. And you know what? It shouldn't be you. It shouldn't. Yeah. I like, it's like, I always remember in the blind side when the Kathy Bates character, because the family's so rich that adopted the football player. And she was his tutor. And they're like, yeah, she's going to go with you to Mississippi and get a condo and make sure that you go to your classes and use your constant person for four years to make sure that you don't fuck up, don't do drugs, do that. I'm like, that's a very expensive way to live, but I always was like, wow, that's, that's how a rich person might need to deal with their kid, you know, whatever. Okay, so let's get to the juice. And the juice, by the juice,

the saying that was heard around the world, you gout, what was it, gout dick sucker. You are a gout, Dick Sucker. This was said by Lisa Barlow to Bronwyn. Because Bronwyn is married to a much older, wealthier man that at one time when they were good friends. Now, let me just tell you, let's remind the audience of the history. These two girls, Bronwyn, one of the newest cast members who wears eccentric outfits, who was a young teen mom or 19, and has been married to this guy Todd for like eight years.

who has a lot of money. And so she and Lisa Barlow used to be really good friends. It was Lisa Barlow who got her on the show, either introduced her or they saw her in Lisa's Instagram or she actually said she'd be great for the show. I don't think there's a stronger housewife betrayal than when you get your friend on the outside world as a cast member and they turn on you so fucking dirty,

so dirty. And you're like, how could I, why would, why did I ever suggest this person? I thought she'd be my ally. I thought she'd be the, and they are at war. And it's ugly and it's about lawsuits. And Bronwyn brings up over and over, she's bitter about how she was treated last year by Lisa Barlow. So she sees that Lisa Barlow's has several lawsuits. One being from this guy who says you owe me money and she reveals in the in the court docs and the text messages that Lisa Barley is like okay I'll pay you back but don't tell my husband John and they had and Angie had said at the last reunion at least I don't have another guy who's not my husband paying for my Amex bill and there were rumors in the past that she was doing sexual favors to get

jazz tickets basketball tickets for her sons and she denied that and that was horrible now there's this other guy that supposedly used his amex to help with the business and he wants his money back but john doesn't know she says it's all explainable and so that's why they're at each other's throats and they go to the party and um braunwin is wearing a christian what's that guy's Syriano. Seriano dress that he said cost close to $10,000. He does not give her freebies. And I'm like, you're an idiot.

And I don't even find another designer like that will make you a dress that you can feature. Like, are you kidding me? You're not even going to give a free dress. She's inviting you to stay at her house. She's wearing your stuff. So she wears this big, weird. It looks like a blue. it's the sleeves are so big she can barely get through a double door entry it's kind of like a big

bow and it's blue and black and whatever and so she they're getting going at it and then you know she gets so mad that lisa ball was like oh really oh really you are a gout dick sucker and i died they all died and she's like yeah i liked and this is at the fancy ladies party like, yeah, I like to suck dick. I hope everybody who's in a relationship is sucking dick. What's wrong with it? And then other people like, and Whitney's like, I didn't even know what Gat was. Well, you might want to have Justin tested.

Okay, because he looks like he could possibly be on the verge of contracting it. That is true. But the truth is, though, I mean, in Whitney's defense, out of those group of women, she really is the only one who likes sucking dick. So, I mean, honestly, if I were to. If I had to really find out who's really doing it and loving it like a popsicle and a hot summer day, I would say 100% it's her. I'm going to, I'm going to just, I'm just going to throw caution to the way. I think the other ones act.

We have done a girl's night like probably a hundred times at this point. When have we ever been out and gone like, you know what? I love second dick. Oh my God. I love second dick too. like all of us Liz we're all just talking about we love sucking dick

we were just had a girl's night like a week ago nobody mentioned sucking a dick no one likes it no one cares like I can definitely say out of the group

I don't like it so I can tell you that we literally never talked about it and don't mention it it's not a thing let me explain to the kids that is like what is gout the first time I heard about gout

was a similar situation I was in my early 30s and one of my my high school friends got married at like 27 to this guy that when Peter saw him was like there's no way that that's her husband because he felt he was like a cross between Joe Judeyce at his worst as his worst and and Todd but younger like not attractive not attractive and my friend was very attractive like probably could have modeled so anyway but he swept her off her feet because he had a couple bucks.

And even though he was only like five years older than she, it seemed like she was with this like older, pretty woman situation. Anyway. And so she was very bragging our whole life from high school on. She'd always brag, always make something positive. It wasn't negative. And even she was able to make her husband having gout positive. She said, you know, I'll just call him Danny.

You know, Danny has gout. And we're like, what's that? And she goes, oh, they call it the rich man's disease. because it's based on most men who go out every night after closing huge deals have steak dinners and martinis and all that kind of rich food can sometimes lead to gout which I don't know what the gout is I want to say it like blows up a food your foot does it like blow up a it's something about it's an acid something about an like a I don't remember I thought gout within your feet it's not in your dead yeah is that what

when he said yeah yeah that's what you think again that's where you start to see it where like you get kind of a blown up foot swollen feet yeah and you know a change of diet it can blow up your hand yeah I was gonna say it's the hands it's the joints and probably fix it yeah but some people get it no matter what or you suck the gout out of your husband's dinner yeah yeah do you have many guys probably have said that to like a dumb girlfriend like what do you have honey why are you limping I have gout it's the rich man's disease and the only way to get rid of it is for you to suck it out of me. Oh, my God.

I won't do any. I'll do it. Of course I'll suck the gout of your dick for you. And according to Heather Gay, she would gladly, I can't. I'm not going to say it. So, okay. Yeah. Have we been confirmed that Todd does suffer from gout?

No, I don't think so. She said, so Lisa just made this up. Somewhere like, watch I'm alive or something. Bronwyn said, I joked about this five years ago with with Lisa Barlow when we were friends and who would have thought that an innocent joke, a throwaway joke that you've said about, oh, she said, when my Amex bill comes, I'm, you know, make sure my husband gets a blowjob before he looks at it. She said she made some joke like that between two friends, not on camera, five years ago.

Now she's on the show and it's being thrown in her face. And she's like, why should I be ashamed that my husband of 10 years does pay for my bills and I do have sex with them. Like, why is that anything? Like, you're dealing with men that aren't even your husband. So she won the fight last night. If this was a actual boxing match, which is what's becoming housewives.

Brulley. Bronwyn, in my opinion, won. And Lisa Barlow, though, fun to watch. She was spinning. She was not doing well. Though I will say what the one thing we remember is gout dick. That's right. And that will, and that is Lisa.

If he has not been, you know, admitted that he suffers from the affliction of gout, that's an even better cut. It's an even better. It's even better. You just, you just brought, you just took gout. And because he's. You branded Todd, gout dick. Right.

Because Todd is so gross. If he does currently have gout, I hope that they turn lemons into lemonade and he gets, maybe there's some pharmaceutical product for gout. Oh, that they can get a brand deal? And all of a sudden, they're getting the Brown deal as a couple. And then because he knows businesses and investments, he like invests in it and becomes huge, much bigger than Vita tequila. And then Lisa Ball is like, you know what? It's fine.

My husband's tall and thin. We can drink tequila and still look great. We don't have to sell gout shots once a week. I mean, Bronwyn will, I will say if that does happen, she'll come in with some big, colorful outfit. He'll have his foot on the table. Yeah. Her outfit will be a huge foot. It'll be behind her, a huge giant swollen foot. And she'll come in.

She was a hot dog. Yeah, exactly. She'll pick him up at the airport as a huge foot. A big swollen foot. Yes. And she's like, actually, I'm going to laugh all the way to the bank, okay? Because my husband loves me. And if Lisa Barlow can't realize that, I'm not going to apologize for it.

For like little hands. Try lactose in. It's good for gout. Yeah, she's going to show her and Todd like frolicing. on like a yacht like yeah i can go anywhere now and it's going to be like lectosis it's going to be some weird song or goutosin yeah yeah out of van try goutavan and then she'll have it on the thing and it'll say goutavan and then they'll go back and they'll go in the yacht and they go in normal now and then i'm in shorts or whatever there is not a doubt in my mind that at bravo

con there will be girls that do etsy stuff that have already do goutavans yeah or gouta dick yeah Oh, Gout Dick. Gallup Dick Sucker. Yeah. Because I'm guessing, you know, that she did not coin that saying, meaning she did not, you'd have to not get a pouton on it. Trade trademark on it. Otherwise, anyone can make that shirt.

So if you haven't made it already, go make it. I am not going to make it through the juicy scoop thing. It's a little too dirty for me, though. I love it. We were given, look, because of a set of wine glasses that had, you smell like hospital. Yeah. I was one of them. It was all these saying.

You just felt like hospital is a classic as classic. Classic. When Mary sick. You spell like hospital. It's just like what? Like they really do keep bringing it. I'm so happy because that first episode really had me nervous. I felt that they were all being like Shanna Badoors with the schick.

And it was really making me nervous. And so I'm grateful that that's not the case. And we're off and running. Well, I just wanted to say when they, before the. party that there was a grass wall that was like like Alice in Wonderland and his hands pushed through just with gloves and gave them champagne and rosé and Seth's like oh yeah that's the glory hole champagne wall and merit's like whatever with her laugh and I was just like yes thank God all we need for Meredith is the laugh yeah and the accent and and just a couple moments of anger

so far she has been featured that much but I'm sure it's coming yeah Um, maybe not though. Maybe people won't make her angry and we won't get to see these moments of where she's, you know, you can leave. Like, I don't know if we're going to get that this season. I hope so. Everyone's saying, everyone go to your Mormon temple and pray for that. Now let's get into, I've shared my thoughts about Real House of the OC. How are you feeling about this season, the return of Gretchen, Gretchen, Gretchen versus Tamara, the boot of Katie and the lie detectors. What do you think? I've been having fun watching it. I mean, I think it's, The lie detector, it's like, it's, Bravo has really, I mean, they're going to just start sending, just sending people to Bravo jail at this point. Like, they're going to have, they're going to start a Bravo PD. They're going to have like a Bravo district attorney that comes in. It's like they're going to have a court. So, what was Botox did you put in your lips, ladies? I mean, all that. That is amazing. I felt like, I always wanted to do like my own lie detector, like go get trained, have the thing, because that's all that they're just independent contractors that have

the lie detector machine, which clearly those two people were very unfair. Like the, like the man turned out their actors. Oh, so yeah. So the man's like, you can't speak, you can't do this. And they're also stressed out. Like, I don't know how reliable those things are just in general. But I mean, it seems like one of the most stressful things anyone could ever go through. And then you have to sit there and then be like, yeah, no, you failed every single question you were asked. Like, oh, really? Including my name? So I guess that means I pass. all of them because I know my name is my name because the first thing they ask you were like your actual facts about your true you know yeah they'll go what's your name or you know is your name

hathen macdonald and all this stuff and then and then they get into the lies so but then they i would like to do it to see if i could effectively lie and i don't think i could at all i think i am not a good liar i don't lie i do get nervous anxiety so even if i was telling the truth and it was like a party or something And I really felt like if I failed it, it would affect my life. Maybe I'm on a reality show. Maybe it's among friends. I would at this point absolutely say no way.

No, not going to fucking do it. I can't even be asked, and this is an actual true fact of human nature. Like if someone's like, I'll say I'll do a job like a commercial and I leave and then the production will call everyone and go, hey, did you take a phone? Like, because it's like a phone commercial. And immediately I'm like, did I steal the phone? Like I feel like I did do it. Like I, when I'm asked something, like, I already feel like I'm lying or it's like you're

going to have an immediate, like, physiological response. I don't know how I would sit there. Like, you know, the criminals are just like, I'm going to keep my heart rate down. They put like a thing in their shoe and you're supposed to like put something painful in your foot. We learn this on Oceans 11 or Oceans 12 or Oceans 13. While you do the test. You're supposed to like put something where it's there's some sort of receptor where if you're

like dealing with that, then your response doesn't get as. Because you're focusing on the pain. There's something about it. I can't remember why. When I get my teeth cleaned, I will like squeeze, like I'll cause pain like somewhere else in my body. I do that when I get Botox. So I like pinch my leg or something. Yeah.

So I think it's the same concept with. Right. Sometimes we'll do our podcast and brand new will ask me, well, did you take out? Did you edit whatever? And I'm like, I don't know. I actually don't know now. I don't know because I feel like. Yeah.

I think I did. But I feel like I'm being accused that I have. but now I'm lying. So now I feel like I'm lying. Like it's crazy and they can do that to you. That's a good idea, Heather, to do it, see if we could all pass it. Every time I've ever been pulled over, my body, you would think that I had both my children who I murdered in the back of my truck.

Like the way I act, like, I am just like shaking. Like, like, it could be nothing. It could be like, hey, I think you rolled through that stop sign or whatever it is. and I'm just like yes officer and then I have to pull over and like literally calm down it takes like two hours yeah yeah yeah the fighter flight when you see the lights and they'll be like pull over and shit you're like oh my god they found out about the murder yeah I mean like what like I just tried it one time in college yeah I want to do this test though where we get the lie detector we should have we should have our we should have a housewives party where we do we really should

I mean, these people look like they're up for hire. Let's just bring them down. You can. You can just hire them. We just lie and then see if we can pass through the lies. You know what I mean? Because we really try. Like we ask each other questions.

We ask each other some questions that. We know we're lying. Yeah, but you have to lie and see if it works. I don't know. That would be kind of fun. Okay. That's fun. I do want to say, can I just say in general?

I am really enjoying all of it. And I want to say that. I am disappointed, though, because I was, I really did think Gretchen had the mic drop moment of almost, I mean, I don't even for years with the whole thing with Shannon Bador and when she said, who wants to be around somebody who's committed crimes? And she's like, well, you have, you do have a DUI. And that is a crime. Yeah, that was a great moment. So I thought that was an amazing moment for her. But now with the Slade and the song and the thing, she's really.

in my opinion is starting to look really bad. It's Slade that holds her back, don't you guys think? Maybe that's what it is. I'm not sure, but it's not a good, what's happening with them right now is not a good look, in my opinion. I'm still enjoying it, though, and I love every second it went.

I saw a comment, which I thought was a great comment about people saying, you know, oh, well, now we know that, you know, Gretchen makes all the money and she owns the house and everything's in her name. And Slade is just someone who helps with, the daughter and her business and then a person wrote isn't that what we kind of want for our

daughters like is that the worst thing in the world to have a partner that totally supports you and is like you know not running off to do two weeks to sell something like he's there and it is about Gretchen and her businesses like I'm just saying to play yeah like no I as someone that like I remember being a Chelsea lately and they would rip on my home life so much and that they're, you know, because at a certain point, Peter was the main caregiver for the kids. And he was picking them up from school and doing all those things. I didn't get home till 7.30 or 8 at night. And they would say the exact same things to me. And I was like, and I just have to roll with it, you know. But at the same time, I was like, do you imagine if I

said that to your wife? Like, why is your wife just on her fat ass with her pregnant body? Like, why isn't she, why isn't she in court, like, making 200,000 a year as a high-powered attorney? Like, what, so you're saying it would be better that their daughter, you know, doesn't have a stay-at-home I understand the past with his other kids, but like, I'm just saying currently. Yeah, I meant by holding her back, I just mean on the show. I think on the show, it's, that's what's sort of, I think giving her sort of like a lot of a flack and people are turned off because of him.

I think if she was there staying on her on her own, even if she'd brought rumors of the song and that stuff, I just think people are tired of the husbands. I think their life and their relationship and their family is great. And I find them, you know, I like them both, even though he's, you know, has that sort of like dark history with that stand-up show, which was, you know,

but whatever, people can change. But I think their relationship seems real and genuine, but I think people are tired, I speak for myself, I'm tired of the husbands, I think they're on way too much. I think that people say that, but then when there are no husbands, the show is not as good. The husbands make it juicy.

The husbands are what makes women have more complex situations because you have this man who's not a woman in your life who's either the father or the, you know, whatever. If it's just women being single, I'm sorry, the stories are not as juicy. There's not as much at stake

without a husband that you could piss off or who could piss off you. There's a way to have them interact with their husbands. There's also a way to have the husbands interact with each other on Salt Lake City does it a lot like Married to Medicine or the husbands always hang out. That's always been one of the things about Salt Lake City is the husbands did their own scenes. And you can have interpersonal scenes. Slade's deal is he's always in women's business like Peter on Atlanta. Monini said, Peter, stay out of women's business.

We don't want to see Slade and four women or Slade have the hard on for Tamara. That's what I think is hard because you know they're going to want him at the reunion. And it's a hard place to be in because if you're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't. If you're a man that was part of the storyline and they want you on the reunion, then, you know, they want to defend themselves, defend their wife, defend their marriage, their family. But if they defend themselves too strongly, then they look like they're coming off of a woman and then the audience hates you because you're mansplaining and whatever. The only man in the history of the reunions that came off well, in my opinion, is Shane Emily's husband.

He came on after the first year and said, yeah, I saw myself, I treated her poorly, I'm not happy with it, and I'm changing. That is the, and it was between him and her. He never went after really the other women. It was just him saying, I wasn't a great husband and I'm going to change my ways and I was making mean remarks about what she was ordering and shit. And I'm going to stop that. other than that all the husbands come off either defensive or guido like or or fighting each other but it's entertained and watch but they don't come off well i would say Greg nini's husband always did well yeah they always seemed like a united front and were really funny also Karen huger's husband yeah because they were just like he does well gentlemanly like yeah that's what i

think too he always remained classy like they just felt like our dad or something like being classy yeah yeah i agree Well, I don't know. I mean, I would say he absolutely has to go to the reunion. And anyone who would suggest otherwise, I mean, it's like he's been a big part of the season. He's definitely contributed. They stuck their neck out. They added storyline after storyline. You know, I mean, that's really all you can ask for. I think at this point, they have nothing to lose. So the only thing they can do is just to show who they are as people because the accusations are just going to get worse and people are going to have their opinion. And I do think I said this. I'm like, I'm all. for bringing back old people because I do think it makes it entertaining and then as a bottom line person like the newer fans will go back and they'll make sure they have peacock and they'll watch all the peacocks and now you have all these people watching old episodes so here's some juicy stuff that's happening apparently vicky and Shannon as you're going to call one of the greatest stage shows of our time where it's called the trace amegas

Tony Tony Award winning It was a Tony Award nominated I don't think they got it I'm sorry And it was Vicki Tamara and Shannon And they went

And they got little cute matching They always looked cute in their outfits Little cute matching sombrero type outfits The Trace Amigas And they

They wore sombreros And then some people are like You should be canceled Because you shouldn't wear a sombrero Because you're not Mexican okay that was a stretch for these three 60 year old blonde women but anyway then then they got little cute matching like dresses that were like blazer dresses in pink and orange and they would

they would sing were the trace amigos that and i watched these videos and i was like and i was like and Tamara was like get me the fuck out of this so she bailed and then it was a dose amigos and that was just Shannon and Vicky will always be buzzum buddies, friends, sisters, and pals. They sang that song because that's what Laverne and Shirley saying. And they identified as the modern day Laverne and Shirley because they're both so hysterical. And now Vicky has said that she doesn't hear from Shannon. They're not close. And she, of course, has a podcast too.

And who does she bring on her podcast? Alexis Bellino. Now Alexis Bellino and Tamara are very close. Oh, they are. And she's going to the wedding, along with Joe De LaRosso is going to Alexis's wedding. And now maybe Vicky will, you know, get there, maybe sell some Cotto insurance while she's there. We want to get insurance from Vicky. And so this is not, I feel there should be a little panic.

with the lemon girl Shannon Bador. I think there is a chance that this is not going well in her direction. Do you think she'll end up doing Una Amiga? And she'll maybe just be like

I am here on my own it. And maybe like I'm like because it seems like they're just she could do her solo one woman one Una Amiga show. Maybe. Well, here's the thing. They go to Temecula. And Tamara clearly hates. Shannon. Okay? And Shannon clearly hates Tamara. And last year, Tamara bet that the world of

Mothers Against drunk driving of 1985 were going to get behind Tamara and put Shannon on the cross like Vicki Golveson once claimed to be. It was a dead horse and it was beaten to death again and again and again. Bringing up over and over. You got drunk and ran into a house. You didn't have your dog strapped into its dog chair, Archie could have been maimed, like all these things that didn't happen. And therefore, people were like, okay, enough. Like, whatever. And so because of that, Shannon's like, God, you are someone I absolutely cannot trust, which she cannot. But Tamara in her mind is like, hey, dumb dumb, if we don't get along and start to fake our friendship and have, you're not going to, you or I won't be asked back.

So we need to act like we're fucking bosom buddies again. Yep. And I'm giving you some lifelines and you're ignoring it. And so now she's like, well, now fuck you. Like I'm not going to help you. Yeah, I was a fucking bitch to you. I hate you. Don't you know we're on a reality show?

I'm doing it for 17 years. I've never been, remember when she gave Gretchen the friendship bracelet? She hated Gretchen. She doesn't like anybody. She's not friends with anybody. Okay. So it's like, know that. That's why Heather's scared of her.

and know that and then so she's like play along but meanwhile Shannon's just like I'm not going to talk about this and then she's like you know I had a lot of trauma in my childhood and then Tamara goes well didn't you say because your dad was a raging alcoholic and she's like Tamara my dad's 97 I just had lunch with him at Javier's where he ordered a double double and I ordered a triple why you bring this up right now god Tamara and Tara was like I'm done I'm fucking done the show is about conflict and resolution. It never was about that. It was about falling women's lives who were predominantly housewives. Now it's the W.W.E and whatever. And you have to cheer for your person as they come out on Bravo Con like they booed for Lisa Renna and she flipped them off.

And that's what it is now. So play along or risk getting fired. And I think Shannon has something to worry about because I think that Tamara is planning this. whole thing she's got now, Vicky, Alexis, we're real friends. Kate, people are loving Katie. She's hopped on. So in one boat, it's going to be Katie, Vicky, Alexis, Tamara, Tamara, Shannon, who else, Joe Deloresa, Heather. Heather, Heather can still probably be there.

And then Joe, I don't know, but she can probably still show up for a few scenes. I'd be shocked if they asked her to, like, actually be a friend or something. I don't think there's, like, enough of a connection there, but whatever. And then in the other boat, it's Shannon Bador, Gina, Emily, and Gretchen. Gina is trying to join S&L. Yeah, exactly. She's been meeting with Lauren Michaels this week. She seems like she's trying to just put it behind her and just go with Katie and get into that boat.

my opinion because aren't people sort of acting like she's going to have a hard time getting in with Katie because she's very mad because that whole thing where Katie said the Asian designers. Yeah, it's basically Gina, in my opinion, who wears the worst clothes of anyone. I mean, I'm talking a $1.25 jacket, like $1.25, like if you breathe on it, would catch on fire. So I think she is struggling to make ends meet while being on a show for six years, was brava paid your people more please she was jealous that that uh you know that that katie is so beautiful and has great style and said oh i'm highlighting asian designers so she saw that she was wearing like balenciaga and was like oh is that an Asian designer meaning like you're acting like you're

you know finding these unique designers when you're not you're going to niebans and getting an expensive outfit either lent you or you're returning it after or whatever i believe that's what she meant. I don't think she was being racist. But Katie pulled the racist card with that. So I think Gina's like, oh, fuck you. Like, you know, that's what I think was going on there. Yeah. Well, she should get past it and get into the boat. That's not, doesn't have a hole in it. That's not thinking. Well, this is where you need the Bravo PD to come and investigate and walk in. Yeah, we need the litigators. We need the DA. Yeah. And the arbitrator. Do you think, I want to know, Do you think that Shannon and her sort of like,

I know that production and everybody's already used to that, her whole thing. And there are people behind the scenes that are hard to work with. Like, do you think that will have anything to do with it? If they, I don't know if that they would even let Shannon go. I mean, I just. I have heard from a good source that in the past, she is like the easiest what it comes down to just signing the contract.

She doesn't negotiate for more. She's not a Lisa Barlow. she's not like hey I showed my remember she's like I've done it all I've showed that my husband was cheating I lifted up my shirt and had the guy go whoa when I got fat I you know did all I've done these extra shows for you I've you know all these awful things that she's shared about her life she truly is like the most genuine and about sharing her trauma traumatic life and the audience loves a traumatic person um no I don't think being rude or being a little short with the hair guy is going to get you fired. I just don't. So, no, I don't

think that has anything to do with it. Do you think, well, I just, I don't see them ever really being able to let her go. She's, she's a pretty big fan favorite, but I know, but she probably does make a lot now. That's a thing. Even without asking for raises, she's been on so many years, she's got to be making at least a million a year. And they're always trying to get rid of the person that makes the most. Always, always, always, always. But the Bravo's thing. There's going to keep bringing new people. My prediction is they make her a friend. Will they bring Vicky back?

Because that's really all I care about. They will, no, they'll just, because she's so thirsty, they'll just say, okay, well, because she was like, I thought I was going to be, you know, in scenes, invited to parties and stuff. They didn't. So I think that they will use her for free and have her be just going to parties. I think they will demote Shannon to a friend and say, why don't they want Vicky? Why? Because they don't have to.

Like, it's all about who do we have to spend a dollar on? We don't have to spend a dollar on, Vicki. She's going to show up to the party. She's going to show up to the party. So, like, why have her? Like, why don't we get a brand new rich girl and film the shit out of her and then have all her lawsuits and her estranged, yeah, and her estranged dad show up.

And her child that we didn't know that she gave it for adoption, crawl into the basement. And then find her old assistant. that her husband had an affair with why don't we destroy that girl who lives on new port coast for 60,000 a season yeah that's a much bad that's way more bang for our buck than then you know showing another scene of her shuffling page pages at coda insurance we've seen it the wood paneling also but but but but but again another vicky a a person who had a the mic drop moment of just make sure they know I died sad what about one of the best lives ever yeah I know what I know but I'm saying but

everything you're saying is right she has to like she has to weasel away back in there she's got to make sure that the new boyfriend screws her over or something maybe if the new boyfriend is having an affair with joe de la rosa now we've got a show now you can both come back I loved seeing her be mean to teddy and call teddy a bitch at that stupid murder mystery thing last season oh the traitors the trade it was a it was a traitor's thing Hello, housewives and Vicky. And Vicki's like, a bitch. She's a bitch. I mean, I will say Vicky and Tamara together, regardless of how you feel about them, are magical together.

They really truly are. I do not agree with Bravo's business model. They really are sisters who hate each other. And they are hilarious together. They are. I don't agree with Bravo's business model. I think that, you know, it didn't work with the reboot of New York. You think you can bring in new girls

And maybe you can If you have some tried and true OGs around We can get used to new people Like get used to Katie They have to them Katie came in very hot Right away and went right for Heather Dubrow

So that got her very interesting But I think Pay your people the money Keep those people around Ride those people into the ground Because that's what makes Bravo Con That's what makes the fandom what it is And that's what we want to see

I will watch Vicky walking around talking about Bran, Bran, Brad, Brad, Brad, Brad. Brooks was right for me. Right, but that was such a different thing. I mean, it was so good when Brooks was there and she hated Brooks. I mean, she loved Brooks and Brooks.

And Brooks was awful to Brianna. And Brianna had the kind of sketchy, you know, hot-headed, fresh from Afghanistan. Boyfriend, right now, husband. But now she lives across the country and they're like fit and thin and like this normal family of four. So there's no point.

Right. Like, where is the juice? There isn't any unless something happens with her boyfriend. Okay, so I wanted to tell you, first of all, wait, I'll get to that in a minute. Getting to Lisa Renna did her, does her podcast in a bucket hat with her husband. And they, she said, oh, so I went to Kyle's daughter, Alexis's wedding. And I adore her. She's adorable.

And the producer called me, and they said, can we film you? And I personally didn't know they were filming at the wedding, but I guess they decided to film something at the wedding. And you know what, Harry? You don't need it. You don't need it. I don't need it. And it felt so good to tell that producer, no. Film around me.

Film around me. Huh. So I don't know if you're going to see that scene or not. and there's going to be me fuzzy. And so then she brings up that she has also been asked to make an appearance at BravoCon. And she also turned it down. Wow.

And apparently the word is they're going to reach out to a lot of old G's because it is like the 20th anniversary of Housewives, you know, because we're on season 19 of the original. So we're coming on 20 years. And I love. I love an OG. I love a one-hit wonder if you can get them for money. I think it's just like let's, it's like more animals at the zoo. Like, let's just watch them all. Like, let's see what

happens. And then, but she, so then people were like, of course, she always has to talk about when she's offered something and turned it down, whatever, who cares? And then she said about how when she came out and she was booed and she said that Erica was like, you might want to watch out, Lisa, I don't know, you might get booed. And she's like, Erica. I can't imagine these people. people booing me. And I want to say, I feel like I was there for the booing. I feel like that was the one that I watched that I had time to go in and see that first, that day, whatever, because I remember that was the only one I wanted to see was Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. And I think I was there when she came out and she looked so cute in this orange suit. And they really did boo her and she flipped him off. And she said like a like a WWE wrestler. And I'm like I. Yeah, I wish she would come back. Yeah, I mean, Lisa Rinn is, again, somebody, you can't not enjoy watching. I wonder what capacity were they thinking of her at BravoConnor? Are they imagining her on like a panel with just other Beverly Hills housewives, other ex-housewives?

I think it probably would have been like other X OG housewives. Or maybe even a one-on-one. I mean, like I would do, if I, if she agreed, I would, why would you waste it? Why wouldn't you have her a one-on-one, spill it all? talk about that night in Aspen, talk about the sprinter van, talk about when you thought that Yolanda have Munchausens and how, you know, this was fed to you by a blogger or by Lisa Vanderpump or whatever, you know, but has she shared all of it already on her podcast? I don't know. What's there to, what's there to give? But just her being on stage, even if the questions were light,

even if they were like, talk about your favorite outfits or something, I think. you know, would have been fun. Do you think she would come back if they asked her back? She doesn't need it. She doesn't need it. I'm a model. I don't know. I think she's one of those that would say never say never.

I think the price is right. I think if she could like call her own shots where it's like I decide if I go on a trip or not, I, you know, probably she would say I will do it by the day, but my rate is, you know, $10,000 a day. It would have to be something a lot. And then they would probably handpick the moments. It's like it's got to be a dinner party when shit's going down. It's got to be, I don't know.

And then it becomes, I think, less reality show because now you're like trying to save this like bomb for things instead of just like, oh, you guys got an argument. Now you're going to have lunch. Now you're going to talk about the event coming up, whatever. Okay. Big news here is the Golden Bachelor airs tonight. Oh. And my very, very good friend is on it.

As the bachelor's, no, or she's one of the contestants. Wow. My friend, Maya Dreyer is on it. And so she, what's the deal with our bachelor? Do we know? Yeah, he's 66 years old. He, I think, is an attorney, but he has like a football background, and I want to say whatever kind of law he does has something to do with football.

He has been divorced, like, twice, I think, and has, like, 18-year-old age-type sons. he had gone on a podcast and said he doesn't want anybody over 60. Maya is the only person who is under 60 of all the women. So they didn't do. So a lot of people are speculating that she might go all the way or maybe she won't for that reason. I don't know. Did she have a children?

She is divorced with three adult kids that are all winners. And she is a consultant for like D1. athletes getting into schools she helps oh so they have that in common right so they have the football and she lives close in that she lives in malibu and he's like in the oc or something so she all those things had it going for her oh can you tell us anything about the casting process like did they just approach her did she read a listing i mean well i got i think i i'm going to try to get her on the show and so i don't want to do any type of spoilers okay um i'm just curious how one gets on that so i don't know if I can share how it came about. You know, I think there's several ways it comes about.

I think sometimes someone recommends you. I think sometimes maybe a cast director knows you from something else. Maybe you're in someone else's Instagram and they're like, this girl looks cool. Other people applied, you know, for the first bachelor and they held them for this one. And they've been in the process for a long time. I think it's a lot. You said, maybe they were, yeah, like I said, up for the other one. And then they were like, actually, you know, we're probably going to go a different route for the next one we'd like save you it's it's things like that but i'm but it makes it i mean it makes it exciting so i'm excited to to see what happens so there you go i'm surprised not more people are excited that i have an actual real friend on this thing but

well maybe we'll be interested in watching now but you know we're definitely going to watch the regular bachelor at with the mormon the mormon mom's oh yeah so maybe we'll just do like our full season of bachelors. We don't usually watch that shot. I mean, I kind of let it fall too. After I was a, I facilitated a date and it was during COVID. So I remember I'd be like alone in a room for five days. I kind of loved it. It wasn't a very nice place. We were supposed to go to a beautiful place in Canada. And then because of COVID, we had to go to this New Mexico place. And finally, like on day four, they were like, okay, you can like walk around by yourself. And even like the grounds were like just like burnt like gray i just it was nothing like pretty or anything and then um

it was for the bachelorette katie and then i got to you know meet all the guys and they were a mix of dudes that i would never be attracted to if i was that age so i was kind of like when they were going through a phase of finding weird people i don't know now i feel like they're back to like universally like cool people. Hot guys, hot guys and hot girls. Like it's not even hard. These women look amazing. And what's different is they all like love each other because they're older.

So there's not the same. It's a completely different thing than when you have 25, you know, 26 year old women who are hoping to win and make this their career. None of these women are coming in really thinking like I'm going to be an influencer and like and be having, you know, have a career. They're just like, how fucking fun is this? Like, what a weird thing that we're doing. And they're all bonding.

Same with the men on the Golden Bachelorette. They're like just having fun. They're mature. They're like, I'm not going to gouge someone's eyes out or try to ruin it because what's the chances of this even working out? But if it does, hey, what a fun experience. And maybe they'll get the gout-centric brand deal or whatever. Or they'll get gout dick. Yeah, they'll get the gout dick sucker.

I mean, we are that too. You know what I mean? A little update on this. this crazy murder of this young girl that I've been following about this rapper named David, who's young girl that appears that they had a romantic relationship, even though he was well over 18. He's like 20. She's only 15 and started when she was 13. TMZ is reporting that a girl in the balcony behind his stage, and this was in August of this year, looks to be her. And then her body was found in his Tesla.

So if this is in fact her, then they would have a better idea of the timeline of when she passed, which is the big question, I think, of why they're not arresting him, is like maybe he was away for a month or something, like where they don't think he could have done it. And then the house that he was renting in the Hollywood Hills, they have surveillance cameras all around it so that we're going to be able to see the comings and goings. And they also have a search warrant for the house. but he is still not been arrested. Can't you search the cameras in the Tesla?

I don't know if you've addressed this. Well, I'm sure, yes, they have that too. So, you know, opening up a, I'm assuming, like, you know, opening up the front trunk of where this body was found, would that just be only cameras like on your legs? Like if you're open, would we be able to see someone's face? But they would know that timeline, I would think. I don't think that goes away when you're not, you know,

starting when the car's not running or whatever. it's crazy though like I mean he did a video about falling in love and ending called romantic homicide he literally has her name in songs and they have the same tattoo right right someone told me because I said now who did the tattoo he now people have like tattoo parties where a tattoo artist will just come still someone had to do that and so someone was in my comments I think someone defending him saying lots of people could have had that tattoo like they could copy his yeah copied his or had it at a party and 10 people got out of a party and it doesn't mean they were romantically linked she was considered a quote unquote runaway where then she came back and then she'd leave

again people also think maybe the parents did know she was with him and maybe he was the parents were in a bad financial state maybe he was supplementing their lifestyle to be like, I'm in love with your daughter and I just wanted to live with me. I don't know. It's very strange. And I just wanted to give the updates since I've been covering it.

I'm sure some random person just like killed her and somehow found their way to the trunk of his car. I'm sure that's what it is. I'm sure a man who has a relationship with an underage girl, a sexual relationship,

which is totally fine, apparently. Then her body is found in his car. I'm quite sure. It's just random. Yeah, it's bad luck. It's bad luck. It's totally bad luck. I mean, besides, obviously you're joking, but the only thing, the only defense I could think of where it's not him is if there's somebody where he was gone for like three weeks, whatever, gone and they can say he was absolutely gone like in Europe when this girl must have been killed. But I think that's always iffy, you know, and there's that much time of like trying to do an autopsy, though obviously not an autopsy person. And if somehow they're pinning it on somebody else, like in his entourage.

Yeah, who then threw her in the trunk and then left and he had no idea. If they think that he didn't actually do it, then they're probably going to try to get that guy to crack and say the artist David told me to do it. You know what I mean? Because I know if I did kill someone and put them in the front truck of my Tesla, I wouldn't drive it around. I'd probably take my other car. And that's where it was. It was left somewhere. But it didn't get towed off of his property.

like, yeah, it was left. Oh, he's been driving it around. Well, wherever it was towed from. And then I think, I can't remember which happened first, but there was either a stench and then it was towed and the toad, the towing company spelled the stench and said, come cops. Or they, someone said this has been left. The tow company got the car and then smelled it.

I don't know what happened. But it involved that it was abandoned, sent to a tow place. and then called the cops to say, I think something's in this car. How long does it take for a Tesla owner, Drake? Does it take for a Tesla owner to really get comfortable with the trunk being in the front? Did you just get into that or did that feel weird for a second?

No, I would say it feels normal. Wow. Isn't that weird that your trunk is in the front? I have that. Yeah, is that normal? It's a fronk. Oh, it's a fronk? It's a front trunk.

A front trunk. Do you get, I mean, I do feel like I have that physically on my body. But did you feel like you have like just a big fat front? But did you, does it get weird? Like, did you just get right into it? I feel like it'd be weird. It is weird. And then just like anything, you get used to it. You know, just like, yeah, like, remember when you're like, how could somebody get used to not having a key go into an ignition? You know what I mean? Like, then you get used to that. That's true. That's true. That's true. I'm crazy. They have a trunk too. They have a trunk and a trunk. Right. Oh, they do? Yeah. Well, the trade, it's like a hatch.

Oh, because there's no engine at all. It's open. Okay. It's open. Oh, okay. Yeah. So that's like an open thing and then like a little thing underneath and then that, yeah. But yeah, I'm sure there were people that were like, can you imagine getting in these things that drive around?

I'll stick with my horse and carriage. You crazy? I don't trust it. That's true. You know what I mean? So it's like, so everything is relative. Before we wrap up, I want to tell you guys, I'm going to the Magic Castle tonight. Oh, so jell.

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm going to make you even more jealous. Okay, what are you doing? Because it's the only way I'd really like to do the Magic Castle again is, you know, now that I live pretty far out, I don't really like traveling to like the city unless it's something good. And I literally just said this past weekend, the only way I want to do that is if someone gets a sprinter van or something. Sure enough, someone must have dropped out of this girl's dinner.

I hear from a friend of mine. We are friendly. But being that it's late notice, I kind of feel like maybe I was the last minute. I don't care. She said, we're going to the Magic Castle for my birthday. A Sprinter van is meeting in the country club parking lot at 445. Wear black.

That's the color theme so we can look cute. Also, everyone looks great in black. And, you know, we are going to the Magic Castle for dinner. So we get to drink in the Sprinter van, providing the FBI doesn't show up. We get to be drinking the Sprinter van, then have our dinner and experience the Magic Castle, which has been, I only have two experience going to the Magic Castle. The most recent, the kids were little, Peter Golf was some guy who was a magician, and we got to go to like the kid-friendly brunch.

Not the magician golfer. Very fun. Very fun for the kids. The time before that was one of my two dates that I went on when I was a contestant on Studs. Oh. Wow. Oh, that's good. And did the date at the Magic Castle culminate in magic?

He was aspiring magician. He knew one of the magicians because you have to be invited. Right. Because he was a, uh, worked at Universal Studios as the tram tour guide. Was this when you wore the orange shorts? I wore the orange, uh, short sleeve. a little business suit with a skirt that I got at a store

in the Beverly Hills mall that's what I wore on the taping of it but when you went on the dates with these people no cameras followed you you just talked about it with producers after and then they asked questions about it on the taping of the show so no I'm so surprised

all your years born and raised that you've only been to the Magic Castle twice but I guess that's because it's like it's like a Soho house for dorks Right. You have to know a magician to be invited. It's like a really big deal. But I'm actually really excited because, you know, all these things, it's about having the group of people with you. Of course. I got invited to a great juicy scooper after our crazy night when we were on on the boat and counting out here. I got a text from a very nice juicy scooper who said I have

two tickets, very good seats to Oasis at the Rose Bowl. Oh, my God. Now, with proper notice, Peter does like to go to concerts, that would have been good. And I was like, oh my God, I just, I don't know if I had the energy to like do this tonight. And I literally said, now, if someone would have called me and said, we have a sprinter van, leaving Thousand Oaks. We have eight people but one can't come. Would you like to join our group? And we have great seats. And then I'm like, yeah. I just kind of feel like when it's just like one or two people, I just don't feel the the energy to want to go do it. Yeah. Yeah. That's why we didn't end up going to Beyonce because it was just us three. Right, Heather? You bitch. I can. Three of us is enough.

Uh-huh. We bring the energy. It was very. It was very. expensive and it was a lot of I just know you know what I just wasn't excited enough it's all coming down to the sprinter van we now see yeah so in the future let's just organize the sprinter van let's organize the the Hummer limo and just get together and and do it and just do it yeah yeah and the it's about the transportation yeah I really want you though to I want you to at least see one magic show tonight oh no we definitely will I'm sure we will yeah I mean and I do like magic because every time I see a magic show I'm like, how do they do it? And that's why I loved the show, Magic Revealed on Fox.

Love magic revealed. I remember the guy had to wear a mask and all the magicians in Las Vegas, like were wondering who it was and like threatening his life. Yep. But you know what? It didn't learn magic for anybody. It doesn't. It doesn't.

Because guess what? We already know it's not magic. So the fact that someone went in and then told us how to do it, it didn't destroy the thought that we know that it. it's already not magic. But the thing is, I watched it and I still then see these same... I still can't believe it. And I still see these same tricks that I don't totally know.

Like, I understand, like, cutting the girl on half, there's like a little thing in the back. But it still looks so good. And I still can't... And I still can't ram my head around it. How does she fit in there? What if she's too fat? What if some of the fat spills out of her leg? And then he cuts it.

What if something happens? Why do they have to kill so many rabbits and pigeons? Maybe not do that trick anymore. maybe you know what I mean like there are other things right say to myself yeah when a bird flies out of the hat it's just like where the fuck did that bird come from and we know that and we know that 15 are already dead in your trunk in your Tesla in the frunk so possibly I want to say to the magician stop using the animals because we know you're killing them that is the truth secondly here we go with julie the animals they crush them and kill them anyway well have fun on that great note girls

If they're in San Francisco, where can they see your show? Nightmare on Strip Street at the Great Star Theater. I don't know the exact date it starts, but it runs through beginning of October through November 2nd. You can come see us there. You can come listen to our podcast, MGA podcast, which is free on all places. And check out our Patreon because we need money. And it's fun. It's really fun.

It's our community. It's our community. And Peter's on it. and Heather's on it, and we're quipping. Are you quipping? Oh, we're quipping. We are quipping, which basically, it's really a fun thing that they added, Patreon, which is where you get then content all week long because it's like a fun way, it's like a fun like voting thing or ideas. It's sort of like Instagram. Yeah. Yeah. For the Patreon, which I like because I'm like, I'd rather just hear from you guys anyway.

I don't need to post something and hear the meanness or the weirdos. You could still be mean about it on Patreon, but like at least I feel like you're a real juicy scooper. So I love it. Yeah, no, we do too. And we definitely feel like there are a lot. There's so much more love. And the community of Patreon is just different.

It's awesome. If you're not on it, you got to get on it for ours or Heather's or whatever. There's plenty of good, yeah, podcast to do. It is. It's positive. It's positive. Thank you. Bye-bye.