Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Britney and Jada’s New Books with Brad Wollack and Ms. Pat

Episode Date: October 19, 2023

Comedian Brad Wollack pops in to discuss Britney Spears’ book, and what the bombshells dropped may mean for Justin Timberlake. Sophia Bush is our latest late-in-life lesbian. Jada and Will’s kids feel bad for their Dad. Then, the hilarious comedienne, actress, and TV judge Ms. Pat joins the show! First, we detail her wildly hilarious, heartbreaking, and inspiring life story. Giving birth at 14. Selling hard drugs to provide. Caring for her sister and niece’s children while raising her own…and trying to build a career as a standup. And to wrap up, she shares the struggle to get her show picked up, and God’s role in ending her family curse. Enjoy! Shop Juicy Scoop Merch: https://juicyscoopshop.com Get extra juice on Patreon: https://patreon.com/juicyscoop Follow Me: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heathermcdonald TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Get tickets to Ms. Pat’s Tour “Ya Girl Done Made It”: https://mspatcomedy.com/tour Check out The Pat Down Podcast: https://mspatcomedy.com/podcast And of course…check out the Ms. Pat Show on BET! Follow Ms. Pat: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/comediennemspat Listen to Brad’s new podcast “Funny Energy”:  https://toppodcast.com/podcast_feeds/funny-energy/ Follow Brad: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bradwollack Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Woo, woo, and a McDonald. Juicy scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy scoop. I have one of my return new favorites, but an old favorite of mine, Brad Wallach, welcome back to Juicy scoop. Thank you, Heather, for having me back. And, and-

Tell everybody, tell the nice things you're saying about the UCSCOper before, the UCSCOpers before we began. So thank you. I was saying just what a positive reaction I got the last time I was on and how people were just happy to hear me again, know that I'm still alive and then I'm still here from the Chelsea lately days, but then also new people came and we're like, oh, we love you. You're so funny. And they love that I was non PCPC and I'm like,

was I non-PC? And I guess I was saying to you earlier. I said, I guess the way we talk about this stuff, it isn't like normal people. And I guess we say things that would be considered non-PC. But anyway, you have great things. Anyway, I guess I'm glad you can appreciate coming to Woodland Hills from the West Side.

Yes, of course. Thank you for not to Woodland Hills from the West Side. Thank you. Of course. Thank you for not valley shaming me. I appreciate it. Honestly. And you know there's a target right across the way. If you have to get anything, you can go to the village, whatever you need.

We had a nice sushi lunch the last time. We did. We did. A little suspect. But. Just stop it. It was good. It was good.

I just said I hadn't been there a long time because I don't really go to lunch. I usually bring a Trader Joe salad, which is also right across the street. Um, let's talk about the Britney Spears book. It's out October 24th. Wow. I mean, there's so much stuff. There's so many stories that have been leaked. Oh my god. She must have taken forever to write this herself. She said, you're, listen, I had a conversation with Cade Hudson. Cade Hudson? Cade. Who's Cade? He is a man and he is her manager.

And I talked to him at, I talked to him at Crags about a month ago and he told me this book, the pre-orders were up to Like I want to say and I'm just gonna say I don't I can't verify this complete memory But I want to say the pre-orders were up to nine million. That's what he told me that's insane Isn't wouldn't that be like the the top-selling book ever I don't know pre-sales of nine million Maybe he predicts when you win million when you wrote, you'll never blueball in this town again. How many pre-orders did you get, Heather? You knew what though.

I did well on it. I don't think I ever made like any extra check from it, but it did sell a lot of books, and I remember it was a second week that I made the best-seller list. Yeah, well, there you go. And nine million is insane. Pre-orders are the way to go. Nine million is insane.

Pre-orders are the way to go. That's why I love to have authors on before, because I'm like, let's get your pre-orders up. Because if you don't, yeah, especially if you're, and especially if you're celebrity, because like, you know, all the articles come out, all the podcasts come out, and if you're not a big reader, then you're like, well, now I know everything. I know all the scoop. Well, that's, so why would I buy it?

So you have to get them to preorder. So they could make a list. So everything now with Brittany, and then I know we'll talk about Jada and everything. It's like, they reveal everything in the book. So why the hell would I want to buy it? So people has the exclusive interview. And the cover of this magazine,

there were some comments saying, what is this? It looks like an AI thing where they took her face from something else. She obviously didn't do a shoot at the beach. She hasn't... In a flowery place. She hasn't left her Travertine, she's cake factory for ya in months.

And so she, you know, and when the times that she's been rolling around in the sand, people wasn't there. No. But, okay. So, here are all the big bombshells from it. First of all, can we just discuss who was her ghost writer? Who wrote this? She said she wrote it herself.

She has a helper. Of course she did. And you know how annoyed that helper was? They would get there and they're like, okay, so Brett, you tell me about this and she said, okay, y'all, now, you're gonna be going dance. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait Brittany, tell me about this and she, okay, y'all, now, you're gonna be going dance. Wait, wait, wait, let me go do a video. You go, people are, I'm not trying, whatever, we're, we're, we're, we're making fun, okay. But, I'm gonna, I'm gonna be her and you're gonna be the ghost writer, okay.

So just ask me some questions, we're like on chapter three. Wow, so Brittany, when you started dating Justin, what was the initial reaction from your family? You know, I just wanted, I was just so mad because I just, I don't know if you know, but I could never go and drive my car and get coffee. I just want to get coffee and go to spa with my friends

and they would not let me. So, it's the story that you wanted coffee? The story is I wanted coffee. Everyone was mean, Justin, I mean, I adored him, but then we broke up and then he wrote a song about Crimea, River, and the truth is, so now here's the bombshell. I don't wanna make fun of it.

But that's what I think it was. I think it would be a lot of off-travel. I know. Oh, I got pregnant and he won an abortion anyway. She did get pregnant and she did say she had an abortion with Justin's baby and she said he just wasn't ready to be a father yet. But if it was up to me, I wouldn't have done it. Well, it is up to you, unfortunately. You know, it is up to you. And it's like, so that I don't want to really get into that because that's extensive. She does say she regrets it. So he's probably.

Oh, I don't think abortions is sensitive subject Heather. I don't think people are. No, that's a sensitive. So I mean, he's probably freaking out. Of course, when they broke up, he did Crimea River was the song he did. It was now, you know, people have put in the pieces together and they really do think he like through under the bus. Not only, you know, whatever. Did he get a pregnant and didn't want to have it be a dad? But then he did the video that made it appear and the words that made it that she cheated. And so people were pro him, but did he do all this to facilitate his own, that's right when his own career was launching? I'm sure. Yeah. And then of course, he did

the nipple gate with Janet Jackson. And he's also cheated on Jessica Biel in which after he cheated. Oh, that did Lee. No, that is all true. That's confirmed. Yeah, I think it's for a confirmed. You're going through your legal notes. I do have so many notes. No, it was confirmed and when they got that. Is that in Britney's book? No, but no, he also cheated on Jessica. No, but he had, this was part of it for Justin.

I just brought this up. He had an infidelity clause that he signed after they were discovered. It was like he was with some girl on a balcony. And an infidelity clause in his like a post, a post marriage agreement with an infidelity clause ensuring that she received most of their assets and primary custody of their children if he were to cheat. And so anyway, they're back going strong. Does Peter have one of those?

Do you have one of those with Peter? No, but I remember I have said, I remember being at Chelsea lately, and Chelsea's saying, what would you do if Peter cheated? And I said, I definitely divorce him because he's just not that. He doesn't bring much else to the table.

I mean, he's definitely, so I'm- What am I hanging on to? I don't know, I just, I think the trust is just for me to just be like, I think that would be really hard for me to be like, is everything a lie, is everything an allusion. You know what I mean? I understand other people can look the other way. I think sometimes it's if you're raised

with like a cheating dad who's mom stayed with him, then you might be more accept, you might accept it more. If you, if your man has a helicopter, if we're at a level of wealth, that I can look the other way, then maybe. But no, not for me, not for me. I'd be so, I'd be like, I'd be done. I'd be okay if Shannon cheated like with,

your wife, yeah, Shannon, my wife. If she cheated with like, she always is, so we see Anthony Keedis from Red Hat Chili Peppers around our neighborhood a lot. And he always like makes eyes at her. And she's like, he's looking at me. He's checking me out. I go, you know what?

If you left me for rock star, I'd be totally okay with that. I've for some reason, I don't know why. Like, I would be like, okay, I get it. You know, he's famous, he's rich, he's talented and everything. Like, there's only so much I bring to the table. I have a nasally voice. I'm a, you know, middleing comedian.

You know, it's just like, there's not much, so I would get it. I don't know, I think we have to have a good time. Because I'm such a selfless mother, I would be completely fine if Peter wanted to leave me for a much wealthier woman so that my kids could benefit. And they could fly private and be part of all these different golf courses or maybe she comes from a very prominent family in which the kids would get immediately into better schools

or into jobs by the businesses. I'd be fine with that. And I'd be fine if I was ready for him to go to his 40th high school reunion. He was all set to go when I went to perform with Chris in San Francisco. And I was ready for the marriage to end. I was ready for him. You feel Peter was gonna go to his 40th

and talk up with some. I was, he was on the swim team. I was ready for a swim team girl to show up still fit and They reminisce and I'm like I'm ready for what actually happened Well, what actually happened was I called him and I'm like why aren't you in San Diego? Meaning the love of your life For the second chapter like so you can start you know exchange He looked and he's realized that they don't have a podcast.

Yeah, so he's like, I can't. But what would be the point of being that? Yeah, he thinks he can make another Heather Heather. He said he can't. No. No, he was home. Exactly. Home with Brandon hanging out.

I'm like, what are you doing? You should have abandoned our younger son and been looking for your second wife. Yeah, for a week in a San Diego. Drake's like, well, I guess you're stuck with him. For now, for now. Anyway, yeah, so, okay, getting back to Britney Spears. So we have that. She said, I became a robot,

but not just a robot, a sort of child robot I had been infantized for so long. I was losing pieces of myself. That is part of the reason why she shaved her head. She was like, I just want control of something in my life. Kind of the way I believe, like, maybe an anorexic because the anorexic I want to control. Do you really believe she was able to put all that thought together based on everything we've seen from her over the last several years, the Instagram videos, everything. She's like not coherent.

She's not even there. So to be able to sit there and go and it really be so introspective about like why she did something. I just don't I don't buy it. Well, listen, when I talked to Kate, I said, I would love for her to come on, juicy. Did he ever think about changing his name? Because Kate Hudson is a little too similar to Kate Hudson. I agree. And I said, I said, I know there's no way like, you know, I'd love to have her, just skip her. I know there's no way. like, you know, I'd love to have her just to see if I know there's no way. And he's like, yeah, do you have, you know, the millions and millions of dollars

that are being thrown on her and to do a sit down interview, but she will not understandably so. She's not in a place. I remember what she did at one. Okay, you know, who's desperate for her to do that interview? Cade.

Cade hasn't made the Brittany money yet. He's, he's, he's he's must be relatively new. No, he's not. Oh, on our team. Yeah. So he hasn't he hasn't reaped the benefits of the big Brittany success. So he's looking for that this listen, he's catching in on on her downfall. If he was the one that brokered this book, he's going to be set. Maybe he's going to be set. Apparently they're's going to be set. Apparently, they're bringing crossroads back into the movie theaters because she talks about crossroads.

Oh, interesting. And she said she was, you know, she thought she would be an acting. But she understood the method acting. This is where it kind of sounds like, you know, where the romantic illness comes to play. She couldn't like get out of the character. Like, once she was in the character,

she couldn't like put it away. So she didn't really enjoy the acting that much. I hate when people say that. That they can't put it away. I was so in the character, I just couldn't separate. You're an actor. You're reading lines, get over it. Well, that's what I'm saying.

She's not, she's saying about it. She said the dad, everyone was obsessed with her body. I remember where I was when I first heard about Britney Spears and Ryan C. Crest had her mom on the phone and was like, oh my God, let's talk about your daughter. Wow. And I remember he's like, she's in this little school girl uniform. And I remember driving being like, and the mom's like, yeah, isn't it great?

And I'm like, what is this? And then I see she's in the little Catholic school uniform, dancing around and how everybody was dying because it was such a perfect sexual fantasy for everybody, from a man to a kid to a whatever. And so, yeah, from a very... From the very beginning. From the very beginning at that time, though. Oh, yeah.

She was like 16. And then there was always like, did she get a boob job? Everyone was wondering, did she get a boob job? Or was she so young and the boob's perked? To this day, we don't know. And I remember my sister like, when to go see Crossroads, it was like, I definitely think she got a boob job.

Like everyone is still speculating on a girl that is... Well, I always looked at Jamie Lynn and seen and compared? Well, no, wouldn't that be something like you though? Oh, well, the her breasts are like that, then her breasts are probably, no, does that not work right? The point of the story is people like yourself

were speculating on it and going, should we look at the little sister? It's creep. It's creep. You make it sound like she's a little sister. It's an adult, okay? You remember where we were when we heard that the little sister was pregnant

Zoe 101 was pregnant. Let me tell you something. And also I kind of think it's interesting now her reaction being that she did have a teen pregnancy Brittany. And I remember they stopped her and she was already at the gas stations, barefoot, doing her weirdness. And they're like, what about your sister

being pregnant, Brittany? And she's like, she's not pregnant. That's not true. So we all didn't think it was true. And then it was towards the end of a day at Chelsea lately when the news was confirmed. And Jamie Lynn said, yes, I am pregnant. It was, it was our 9-11.

It was, I remember, I, because I was doing business school at the time. So I had, I would do the mornings at Chelsea Lately after, and then the afternoon evening, I would go to class. Yeah. And I remember I went and like, I was leaving and I was driving the car and it came out

and I turned my car back around to come back to the studio, I skipped class that night because I was like, this is an emergency. This is our 9-11. We must report on it. We stayed and then we're like, what are we going to do for the cold open? And we literally filmed a sketch that was like chaos

in a newsroom, like things were, body, we had like a dummy being thrown through. We did all this funny stuff. But everyone like, woo, woo, woo, woo, like an alarm system going. And the time of our lives. Um, okay. Yeah, maybe I hope they get along more later on.

Okay, let's see what else did she say? Um, yeah, I just, I think those were the big things that that Shafter had to have control. The dad fat shamed her. She had a daquaries with her mom from the eighth grade on. I like a French banana daquerie. Actually, reading about it, I was like, I think this is kind of fun.

So they would have to go from wherever they lived, Mississippi, then to Florida for the... Louisiana, right? Louisiana to then go do the kid show. Yeah, did. And then when they would relax, they would make dacaries. And so she would have a dacary with her mom. So I don't, I know it's bad case.

She was only like 13, but for some reason, I'm like, it's the same. Why don't I make more dacaries? Well, I was literally like, why don't I make more dacaries? What they transport you to the tropics, right? It's it's rum and fruit and ice and. I used to order like a virgin deck

for all the time, like on vacations at restaurants, all that stuff when I was younger. So that was, let me see if there was anything else with this. Just kind of, I feel like I'm missing a page. Anyway, it, what else was there? Oh, she also said this. I thought this was good, whether this was the ghost writer or her. Think of how many male artists gambled all their money away, how many had substance abuse or mental health issues. No one tried to take away

their control over their bodies and money. I didn't deserve what my family did to me. That's a, like, directly from the memoir. I totally agree. I mean, think about Robert Downey Jr. how many chances he got. He's the only person that could play Iron Man. Like, you know, I mean, I think he's cool, but like, come on. He's a super nice guy.

I'm sure he is, but I'm just like, you're right. It's so much of the men around her controlling her. So she shaved her head. That was my way of pushing back. I had to go to bed early after this. I had to go to bed early and take whatever medications they told me to take. And then she's like, if I was so fucked up, I think it's so funny about all the awards that I did win during that time. And, you know, so, so I, I will definitely get the Oh, and then also, sorry, what were you gonna say? I was gonna say, but now she's free

and all she does is do Instagram dancing videos. So like, you're not like, I was so oppressed and now I'm still just stuck in my house doing these and does she own a pair of pants? I mean, it's everything is in a bikini bottom or whatever, it's just like, I don't know, get it together, Britt. She, the audio is gonna be by Michelle Williams,

Oscar winner Michelle Williams. And, you know, and people are like, what's that about? I'm like, everyone. Is that because Brittney couldn't read it herself? I'm sorry, that's mean. No, listen, it is, it's definitely, I've done the audio version of a book. I think if I was to do one now, I would be like,

I don't care if I stumble on words, I'm not redoing it, but back when I did it, they're very strict about, you know, and you're reading it, you're doing really well. And then you, yeah. Oh, right, because you did it for- We did it for the lies that Chelsea Handler told me, and also I did it, I was the voice of Chewies voice

for his little book, that- It is, like it was a child. I don't know how strict, I think it's dumb to be little book. It is, like a wizard challenge. I don't know how strict, I think it's dumb to be super strict about it now. I'm being that everyone has a podcast where I can't just read it, add stuff. But I think like legally it has to be exactly the words or something.

And so people were speculating why her, are they friends, is this a favorite? No, it's a huge fucking fat paycheck. And everyone thinks, oh, someone like Michelle. Michelle is a single mom. She needs the money. We've been on strike for a year. She probably is like, sure, I'll do it.

From my house, someone comes. And she's probably like, I'm totally curious. I'm dying to read the book. Let me do it. But I do think it's interesting to just hear, like, because I remember when I first got my book, I was like, well, I would like to do the audio. And back then, they were like, no,

we're gonna get a professional audio reader. You know, and I'm like, well, then forget it. Then I'm not allowing it. And then when the book was the best seller, they're like, okay, we'll let you do it a bridge version. I'm like, well, it's just so silly to me that comedians are the best. You know, who released just audio book was David Spade.

And it was the best because it's basically like an hour, you know, it's a stand-up. you know, and everything and he's reading it and he never actually released a hard copy. He's like, I'll just do the audiobook and it's so much better. Right. And so, I mean, what will be so interesting is if she actually, because she's such a great actress, takes on the persona of Britney reading it. That's what I would hope.

If we're gonna have an Oscar winner, I don't want it just to be the way I just read it, you know, like this line. You want to read it? Over the past 15 years, or even the start of my career, I sat back while people spoke about me and told my story for me. Or it could be over the past 15 years years and even at the start of my career, I sat back.

Well, people spoke about me and told my story for me. Well, after getting out of my conservative ship, I was finally free to tell my story without consequences from the people in charge of my life. I would buy that. It better be that. It better be that. And it better not just be her. Yeah, no, if you're an actress, like she was reading to her kid, exactly put some work into it, put some effort into it. So, I mean, lots of juicy books out right now. This message is brought to you by Cologuard. Cologuard is a one of a kind way to screen for colon cancer if you are 45 or older and it average risk for colon cancer. It's uniquely effective because it is the only FDA approved non-invasive screening test that looks for both altered DNA

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Everything at Heather McDoll and Dot Net. The latest is Sophia Bush dating recently divorce ons. What is that? US women's national test star. Ashlyn Harris. Was Ashlyn married to a man, too? Wait, she's tennis or soccer. So she's soccer, right? No, it's tennis. Is it tennis player? Wait a minute.

Yes. It's soccer. I thought it was tennis. It's soccer. I think Sophia likes tennis more than she likes soccer. Wait a minute. Okay, hold on. After being friends for years and running the same thing, maybe it's a man of soccer. I'm gonna read it hold on. After being friends for years and running the same

soccer. I'm going to read it to you after being friends for years and running in the same social circles. Sophia, who's an actress, and Ash and went out on their first dinner date, a couple of weeks ago. This is recent. They're both beginning new chapters. They're both getting divorced. Harris to a woman, Sophia to a man. Paris is 37. She filed from file for divorce from her wife. They have two kids, pro soccer player, Allie. So, oh, the wife was a pro soccer player. Yes. And then Bush, who was called, who calls herself a lifelong soccer fan, is also an investor in the LA based angel city FC. What does that stand for? Football club. That was the dead giveaway. Anyone who invested in that, you're like, oh, maybe you're a lesbian.

Again. But no, you're not. Okay. And has been friends with her for a year, announcing her support. Okay. So they, I guess she was friends with both of it sounds like. And then her, Sophia's ex grant were friends for 10 years

and bonded during COVID. I think COVID romances, I mean, I feel like a lot of COVID romances are dying now. They got together during COVID, they thought this is great. And now that they can go to any restaurant they want, mask-free, whatever they want. Yeah, right. The other day I went to Trader Joe's and you know how they have like a, you know, the thing to wipe the...

Yeah, yeah, the, the carts. No one was using it. You didn't use it? No, I don't give a fuck. Oh, that's so funny. I used that even before the pandemic. I think I did before the pandemic too. And then I was like, how could it,

how could anyone not? How could I even do it? And now I'm like, When your hands don't feel gross after or like, And I care, that's so interesting. I think that's why I have such a great immune system. Well, but I have a great immune system. Well, whatever. And I'm just, I so interesting. I think that's why I have such a great immune system. But I have a great immune system. Well, whatever.

And I'm just saying I was like, I'm purposely not going to wipe this fucking thing down because I'm just, as I walk through the valley of death, here I come, I don't care. I'm doing it. Anyway, that's someone's enjoying Sophia's bush. Very good. And they said, can we call them Harry Bush

as their love name? That was a hair Harry Harris Bush, how do you think this happened though? Do you think I I was I heard a theory from please let me hear it Is your friend straighter gay straight? Okay a girl or boy a boy? Okay, he's my business partner Tom Tom Brinnell a girl or a boy? A boy. He's my business partner, Tom. Oh. Tom Burnell. Tom Burnell. His theory was that they were friends and Ashlyn really put the moves on hard for Sophia. And she instigated it.

And Sophia was like, okay. You know? And she instigated it. And Sophia was like, okay, you know. I, like I said, level eight in life, lesbian story. I think, you know, she could go back to guys who knows they could end up together. They could be just friends. They could be using this just like Kyle of Real House's Beverly Hills might be using the Morgan Wade thing to get people talking. That was something that just came up where they said, is it, they said an insider said she's using it for a juicy

story line. So I said, well, I am not the insider, even though I said juicy storyline. And I go back and forth. I don't know if Kyle is a little bit lesbian light. I think they like playing this game or what? Yeah. It's okay. I think everyone's a lesbian now. And I think we're going to see more of it. And I think we're gonna see more of it. And I think there are some people who ever are like, yeah, no, I think who realize that any, whether it's man, woman, whatever, you come out as something, it is an attention thing.

And I'm not saying that they're not truly a lesbian or gay or whatever, but like there is so much fluidity now and going back and forth and it's not, it's, it is a, it is a publicity. Well, you got to, you got a spike. If juicy scoop tanks, I will go to Peter's 45th reunion and I will get with an old lesbian swimmer. Oh, that's, and leave Peter for someone that used to go to swim team in San Diego.

That's too bad. I hope I don't have to do that. I don't. Well, no, she'll be older. Natalie Holloway. We now know what happened. Jordan Van Derslut, who we knew, did it. He was already in prison for killing another girl. This happened in 2010. She went on her high school graduation trip with her friends and went off with some guys, but they didn't know, they had no evidence. They didn't find her body. And according to this indictment,

Holloway's mother actually wired 15,000 to a bank account in the Netherlands because he said, I'll tell you where she is. So he's in trouble for that. Like for the wire like, yeah. But he has finally stated that he did blood gener today. I wonder why now he decided, oh, fine. Because he says he's a born again Christian and he actually is sorry for the crime. Interesting.

I mean, he's gonna say the rest of his life in prison. So you might as well just come. He was already in prison for this other girl. He came. And it was like, you know, I think it was so weird for him because he came from money. He was good looking, you know, just, but, Yeah.

Murders come in all shapes and sizes and backgrounds and all of it. Because when we can now just put this case to rest. Yeah, and remember there was a moment when Jean-Benei's father after the wife passed away of cancer was dating Holloway's mother. That's right. But I don't believe they're still dating today. I looked it up. Trauma dating.

Yeah, but then I read the other thing. I thought they were dating. They were dating that I thought that they they weren't. Um, Brad, I have a great interview that I want to share with the people with Miss Pat. Okay. But I still have so much to discuss with you. I know. So we are going to talk more even the juice your stuff and it will be on my Friday Patreon of hot topics and fun. So Brad will go. Can I just hold this call?

Yes, yes, before we go, I want you to say wherever we can find you. You can find me at Brad Wallick on Instagram, WOLLACK. And more importantly, you can find me on funny energy, a podcast that I'm doing now. It's me and a clairvoyant or energy practitioner and we talk to funny comedians and I've asked you to be on and you have said no. So, I say no, I said, I will do it in November. Okay.

Because the next couple weeks, I'm super busy with Bravocon and all this other stuff. And then, but November, then I do have no more dates. But we have episodes out now in Natasha Legero and people are loving it and Natasha's coming on juxtapuse next week. Of course. Yes. Yeah, I just I just found out about our from your podcast I'm just coaching guests just coaching guests that I've known for twenty years Yeah, okay, but yeah, it's a fun fun listen

So funny energy wherever you get your podcasts and thank you for having me Heather. Yes I'm gonna keep. Go listen to my Friday show on patreon at Heather McDonald net for more of the juice and now we can really get into it. All right. I'm very excited to have comedian, podcaster, host of many shows, your own TV shows, Ms. Pat, welcome. I am so excited for my audience to get to know you better today. Well, thank you for having me.

I was excited when I got a call. I was like, you're gonna do Heather. I was like, okay, I'll try many times to get here. Even though you haven't. Yes, we have my schedule just when let us. Oh, okay. Okay, because I'm definitely, definitely no, but nobody's been like, would you like her?

And I said, no. So I'm glad that it worked out, like, would you like her? And I said no. So I'm glad that it worked out, because I like to have people in person. So Pam have pitched me many times, and but it never lines up. But I did this time. Good, good. So I want, you have a very interesting background

of how your life and your kids, and so let's just, get, let everyone know how you got to have such a funny point of view on your life because I think your point of view is very unique. Well if you're not familiar with me I always like to start from the beginning. I had two kids by a man by the time I was 15. Drop that a screen. Wait you're married? Wait you had two kids by the time you were 15?

Yeah by a man I was a man. Oh how where did you meet him? At the skate ring. Roller skating.. I wasn't mayor. I wasn't a mayor. Oh, how, where did you meet him? At the skate ring. Roller skating. God, I love roller skating. And so he, so wait a minute. So you're in high school? No, I'm not in high school.

At that time, yeah, you had to be in high school. No, I was, I'm 51. So it was no high school. So you went from elementary straight to high school back in the old days. Oh, okay. So I was in elementary school. You school back in some area. Okay. I was in elementary school.

You were still up to the eighth grade or whatever, ninth grade? Yeah, went to the eighth grade. Okay. And so you're there roller skating around? I went to a kids' night, like a little teen night and I was there. And how old was he? 22 married with a baby on the way. And so he starts flirting with you. Oh, no,

we just he started coming by the next day and and we kind of got to know each other and, you know, I'm just a little girl. Oh, boyfriend, which is with somebody whole husband. And I ended up getting pregnant and I had to end up having two kids dropped out of school didn't they? Did the woman know about you? Yeah, she knocked on my dough and told me I was Pranked by her husband. Yeah, what city were you growing up in I grew up in Atlanta. So what did your mom say? Nothing My mom was alcoholic. I mean pretty much I raised myself So, you know she one thing I know about life

So, you know, she, one thing I know about life, curses are passed down. What happened to my mom? She allowed to happen to me. But when it got to me, I stopped it from happening to my daughter. So, generation curses are true. I always tell this bit, if your mom got welfare,

then the child is gonna get welfare. The only reason why my daughter don't get welfare is because she gave and she had no kids. So the curse would stop right there with my daughter, decided to eat what she was born with. So there was no need for her to go on the system. When did she come out? My daughter gave, oh, child, I knew my daughter was gay from ever,

from the beginning. You being denial, but you know, my daughter been licking plates the wrong way since she was a baby. Yeah. Have your child is gay? And you fucking, excuse me, I don't know, I'm cursed, but if you look at every way,

she's very, you are a damn fool. Now, today, kids come out, you have a janna with a fucking gay flag in their hand. Back then, the flag would fold up nice and neat. My daughter was gay from day one. There was no doubt when she was gay. You can look the other way, but you know. You know, I mean, it's the same way

when you tell your child is sick, or if your child is not feeling well, you're just the same thing. So you know, your child is not acting or certain way. And as she got older, um, and, as she got older and she was stuck in that closet, you know, she started to get meaners. She didn't like me because I didn't like gay women. So just so many clues there. But I'm fine with her now. I mean, she go through women like we go through lipstick. She's a player. She's a whore. Oh.

She's a hope. I told them, glad you gay. Because you probably will have a lot of kids. Oh my gosh. Okay, so the guy is coming around and you have the one baby with him. And you don't have another baby one. I have a baby of 14 and I have another baby of 15. Both by him.

Yeah, both by him. And was the wife nasty to you? I mean, did she want to like hurt you for coming up with a man? But when she showed up and realized I was a damn key. Cause she was actually probably was 19. Uh huh. realized I was a damn kid, because she probably was 19. And I was 14. So for you to show up and, you know, and you see your husband having a affair with a 14 year,

what do you do? I mean, my whole thing is I thought I was in love and I wasn't going anywhere. Because I just thought, you know, he said the right thing to me, which is I love you. So I wasn't willing to let go. So eventually she, I ran her off, and I thought I was gonna be number one child,

bitch, you still falling out the sky like rain. Well, like, I can't even imagine. So you're this little kid, like having a baby, and then you took care of your baby yourself every day. Yeah. Yeah. So then you couldn't of your baby yourself every day. Yeah. So then you couldn't go to school anymore at that point. I could go to school, but you know, it was more interesting stuff I decided to do.

Yeah. I decided for a week, go to doctor's appointment, you know, do modeling shit. So, and then I might, you know, I was, we was really, we was poor, so I needed to take care of this baby. So I had to go get a job to take care of his baby. As a teenager. As a kid.

I mean, I just can't even imagine my kids being in that position that we never know what to do. Like, and then, and nobody thought, like we need to get the authorities involved because the sky is an adult. Nobody cares when you pour. And see, that's one thing about what society don't realize. They don't care about, it's not, it's really not a race thing when you pour.

You just fucking pour. This could have happened to a little white girl. This could have happened to anybody. But when you don't, when you don't have the right people around kids or in your life, nobody cares. And nobody damn showed them cared about a little black girl getting pregnant in a seven-cray. Wow.

So you manage out these two kids. When do you stop having contact with this man? So you don't have a third with him? I was waiting for 10 years. You know with him for 10 years. Now how did you make sure you didn't have a third baby by him? I had an abortion. Oh, okay.

A few miscares on the field. I just knew when it was causing me to take care of these first two kids, and how much I was struggling, I was like, I don't want them or kids. I can't, you know, I had an abortion when I was 16 right after my son, and I just said, I can't afford it. Yeah. And so, I divorced my mom. I became a emancipator of mine.

I was like, I can't do this. This is just causing me so much. And when you go out and fill out an application at 16 years old, it's for a full time job. And people are like, you supposed to be in fucking school? So I couldn't really get a job without a work permit. So I became a drug dealer. Oh my God.

Nobody wanted a work permit for that. They just wanted a good crack. And good crack is what I had Now how did you get to how did you get involved in that it? Thank God for running Reagan. He dropped drugs in the black community as we say Oh, quite it's just a side. He do so this was like what here this 80 what late 80s So this was like one year, this 80 what? Oh, late 80s. Wow.

For the black community about 80. My daughter was born in 86. So about 80s, 586. About 88, I was selling dope. And how would you, how does that work? Like, so you get it from somebody and- But I love it. I took my welfare check at the time,

which was $230,000, and I bought my, I can't even remember, I think it used to be called a quarter. It was cost like $200 back in the day, and you were cutting up, and you would get $400 a little for crack out of it. And then you just keep doubling it, and that's what I did. And then people just knew, or like,

they just knew who Rabbit was, because I had my own little trap. Oh, your name was Rabbit? That's my childhood name. Oh, okay. I said, I was like, Rapples, we don't use our government names.

Okay. So then, like, then people just knew like you'd be at this location at this time. Oh, okay. When you set up a trap, it's like your stove front. Okay.

Back in those days, people's soul drugs were respect. You don't come to my trap. This is my area. So I had my own area, which was my old neighborhood where I grew up at. And then, but what about the other drug dealers today? Were, did they respect you or do they, were they mad that you were doing well? Or I was a woman. Well, I was the most popular drug dealer in the trap. So I didn't have a problem. If you tried this, they really didn't affect me because everybody came to look for me.

So were you, is that when you realized that you were the funniest drug dealer in town? No, I'm not. No, no, no. What about just having like a sparkling personality? Like if I'm gonna buy, you know, it's just like anything. I'm gonna go to a doctor, if I'm gonna go, I wanna go to the person

that I have some good convo with. Well, you can't really make people laugh when they hide, cause they don't even see you. All right. So I didn't realize I had such a big personality. I was just outspoken. I said whatever the hell I wanted to say. Okay.

And if you laugh, you laugh. I wasn't there for entertainment, but I mean, to me I was a pretty good damn drug dealer. Comedy came along later. Once I went through the web at a work program, I met a case worker. This is when, first time I voted for Bill Clinton because he was cute.

So I went through that program, and I met a case worker, which the case worker thought that I was a, like she was like, what do you wanna go to school for? Because at the time you had to get your GED or you would lose your benefits or you had to go to work. That was where I felt a work program. So my case worker's like, you dropped out in April,

why don't you get a GED and I was like, I don't for what? And she said, as I went through the GED program, she's like, you really funny, why don't you trust comedy? I said, what the hell is comedy? And she was like, like, Richard Priya, I didn't even know Richard Priya was a comedian. I thought he was just a funny as actor. And so I started to do some research at the LaWea Fest Center. And I was like, this man make this kind of money telling jokes. And I was like, I tell shit all the time on the phone talking to my girlfriend. So I went to an open mic in Atlanta, in Atlanta, a place called the pub. And I was like, shit, I tell shit all the time on the phone talking to my girlfriend. So I went to an open mic. Atlanta.

Atlanta. A place called the pub and I never stopped. So the first time you got up there, did you have even like notes written down or I'm just gonna get up and tell a story or what? I had a joke about my brother being a fat cat murderer. And it was this lady in the audience that was drunk who was acting a fool. So I immediately turned my attention to her and just started talking shit to her.

And everybody was crying like, I was so nervous. And I was like, this is it? Oh, I can do this. So you do a lot of crowd work still? No. Oh, now you don't. I tell a lot of stories. Yeah, I do some crowd work towards the end

just to mingle with the audience. But I mostly tell a lot of stories about, you know, how I grew up being mayor for 31 years. So, you I mostly tell a lot of stories about you know how I grew up Being mayor for 31 years, you know having a just then when did you get married? 1992 so so had you started comedy yet or no? No, and who did you marry a nice guy named Garrett and how did you meet him? Actually went to open Mike night and it was Bruce Bruce was the host. So you were do you were just watching it?

You were just watching? We all went to hang out one night. Oh, but you weren't performing yet. Okay. I wasn't even on my mind. We just went to go and watch Bruce Bruce was lip singing and comedy together. Okay. So my my my friend, my husband, brother. So we say, hey, we just all go down here and have a good time together. And that's what we did.

Everyone wondered how Dixon City Comptroller Rita Crendwell could afford so many horses. The rumor we had that she had befriended some rich little old lady and she had left her a lot of money. Somebody thought that her family had bought stock and Campbell's soup. I had heard something new like a cell phone company, like every time that cell phone rang, like she of money. Somebody thought that her family had bought stock and Campbell's soup. I had heard something new was like a cellphone company. Like every time that cellphone rang, like she made money. Like any cellphone. Kind of, yeah.

I know it sounds ridiculous. To find out the truth, listen to Crooked City, Dixon, Illinois, wherever you get your podcasts. Uh-huh. And then, um, so you got married. Yep, got married at a courthouse, and my kids needed a father. So, and I ended up getting custody of my sister for keys,

raised him for 10 years, getting married. Wait, that's okay. So let's talk about that, because I remember that being part of some of your sitcoms that you've sold and stuff was about also taking care of your sister's kids, right? So how did that come about? So my sister was on crack at the time

and then I was coming out of the world of selling crack because my husband was a church guy. And he just knew where it was. Yes, he just wasn't raised the way I was. So he was like, well, you know, just go get a job. And I'm like, get a job. Who, who get a job? Why don't you get a job

and all this money out here? So for love, I traded in the streets and right after I traded in the streets, my sister was losing her kids. And the defect worker said, somebody don't come get them today. I have to put them in a home. And so my sister had four girls. And I was like, no, I said, this is family. I don't want that to happen. So I went and got them. And for 10 years I raised them. And so when you took the four kids into your house, with your kids, what were the ages? When all six kids were in your house?

Well, the two oldest was the same age. I think there was around eight or nine, because that's when I met my husband. Okay, my son was probably seven. My sister had a six month old. She had a one year old, a six month old. She had a one year old, a six month old. She had a baby about to turn two. And then she probably had a three year old. So we had babies, babies. And my husband had no kids at the time. And now he has six. Well, at the

time he had six. Wow. And so, and you never had any more kids yourself. Yes, I had two by my husband. So then you had two with Garrett. Later on, I had two. Okay, so then when you had the four kids and your sister is not getting better, or what? No, she's not getting better.

And at any point was she calling you and wanting to see the kids or being resentful or how is your relationship with her being that she was a drug addict and you're raising her kids? I don't have patient with people, you know, it's no problem with me saying fuck off. And for years, she didn't see the kids, but well, I went wrong and I only had temporary custody

because I always wanted to give my sister her kids back when she was able to read it. And she found out that I had temporary custody. I never turned it over to permanent custody and she came and got them and they all on drugs now. So now fast forward to 2023, I'm raising one of the kids who I raised. I'm raising her for kids because she's on drugs.

And I've had them now for 10 years. Her baby was, oh, I think a month, not even a month old when I got her? Well, this is exactly what you talked about, the curse. Yeah, the general regime. So that child, so after the 10 years, then they went back to her. My sister's kids. Your sister's kids went back to her.

And at that point, they were preteens, teens. They were preteens. They was in high school, get grades and everything. And at that point, they were preteens, teens. They were preteens. They was in high school, get grades and everything. And I just got on drugs and everything. And how did you feel about them going back to her? Were you relieved or were you worried? I was there to hurt because I knew how my mom raised us.

And my sister was a lot like my mother. And at first, I started to fight it. And then everybody was like, oh, you know, you should give her her kids back. And I was like, y'all know this girl is not a capable of taking care of her kids. You know she, and I used to tell my brothers, I said, you know, she's gonna do the same thing to those kids, all mama did to us.

And so, you know, I didn't get any support from the family. So I was like, fuck it. I'm gonna, I'm gonna go live my life. For my whole life I've been here trying to save my family. Yeah. So I said, welcome. And I just walked away and I let her hit her key. So every night that I will bump into them, my niece was a really good track star in and up immediately getting pregnant. Dad, the other ones got pregnant. If she was I mean, I think that's what I'm saying. I think that's what I'm saying. I think that's what I'm saying.

I think that's what I'm saying. I think that's what I'm saying. I think that's what I'm saying. I think that's what I'm saying. I think that's what I'm saying. I think that's what I'm saying. I think that's what I'm saying. I think that's what I'm saying.

I think that's what I'm real. I just cut them off. Because sometimes, you know, you have to, sometimes you have to remove toxic situations out of your life. If not, then you become toxic. So I just said, that's it, you know, fuck them. And that was, let's say I know my niece dropped out of school, my niece got pregnant at 11.

11 and 12. 11 and 12. And I remember because my sister called me and said that the school was mad because she's so fucking dumb. The school was mad because she gave the kids and the six, because her daughter was birthday was like, and she was hell-backed. And I think she was in the six or seven grade pregnant and she gave our baby shower invitation.

And I was like, oh, you fucking stupid. This is not a birthday party. So I just continued to remove them out of my life. And then I was in Atlanta one day and cause I all of them had keys, one on winter jail for abusing the keys and it's all kind of crazy shit. Make a long story.

So every time, so you're just like doing your own thing and then your phone rings. Yes. And you're like, and they're like, can we please speak to and you're just like, oh shit. I know this is something. What it was always, they started to call

and I just really removed myself from them. I didn't wanna be bothered with anybody. Now at this point when the sister takes over the kids, are you, do you have a career in comedy yet? Comedy is just now kicking off. I'm trying to be a comedian. And does the sister know that? Yes, she knows that.

And is she like, go girl or is she like, oh, you think you're all that? They didn't think it was serious, I'm serious. Okay. I'm at the stage now. Okay. You know, they know. So you're not rolling in the money. You're just struggling like everybody else trying to be the good aunt and, you know, mom figure to all these kids. Yeah. No, I didn't, well, they was with me. I didn't have nothing. Okay. I'm on welfare. I'm on based on income housing, I'm working, and I'm just doing things to get by.

And then comedy coming along, and I find something, and it comes along with wrath and my sister take her a key. So sometimes you gotta be stealing that girl. I got you. I was heartbroken. I mean, I don't use the word depression because the word depression is too strong because when you use that word, your mind controls the body and how the body feels. So if you speak that the body will start to feel that. But I was heartbroken because I knew where I was trying to break a generation of Christ. I mean Christ generation occurs of high school drop out teenage pray in the molestation. My sister just threw her kids back into that pit. So my daughter and my niece was the first two

to graduate in three generations. And I just said, I'm gonna focus on my own kids. Cause for that part of my life, I had focus on saving family members along with my kids. And then, you know, I was fucking, I was neglected my own kids. So I went on ahead and I raised my kids. And I always had the family that I wanted to have.

And I just didn't talk to them. And then fast forward, 10 years ago, I'm riding in Atlanta and I get a phone call and my niece tell me she need pamphlets for her baby. And she pregnant with another baby. She had four kids. She had three outside this stomach and one inside. And I don't even think she was 20.

And my other niece who I raised, she 22 she got seven kids so and I actually where she was at and no lie I was right at the exit where she was at so I went to this drill and fake the area and dropped out some pimples and milk and I just said lower you're not about to trick me to this bullshit again and I ended up having Christmas dinner with them and I brought her home with her four kids back to my house. And this is only 10 years ago. So now you are been successful for quite a while.

Well, yeah, so I get these kids. And my career's starting to take off. I go on tour with cat Williams and stuff and make a long story short. I was gonna get these kids. She run off and leave me with these four kids. So she comes to Christmas with the fools in with me in Indiana.

Okay, I'm helping her get off drugs. I put in a drug, this is my niece, a drug rehab. Her baby dad is in jail for Um Robert. I'm like, I teach her how to drive. I buy her a car. I help her get a apartment. I help her get a job. She makes supervise.

I'm putting in a GD program. Everything to make her life right. And she said, I'm missing something, which is drugs. And she get back on drugs. What was her drug? I don't, everything. You name it, she was born. She just leave me with these four kids.

I tell her, come back and get me four cousins. She said no. Because, you know, they're my kids. I don't want to give you four cousins. I said, Lord, I'm putting them in the fucking foster care. And I tell this, be on stage and God, what's putting my ear and say, keep them. And I got you.

My whole career took off within that year. I have chills right now. Within that year. Do you really on stage and you really felt a voice? I felt the voice. It was a one voice in my right ear and they said, keep them. Cause I said, I can't do this. I'm trying to have a career. I'm trying to do something right ear and they said keep them. Cause I said, I can't do this. I said, I'm trying to have a career.

I'm trying to do something right. And I got full fucking kids. And you know, my daughter was getting ready to go to college. She wanted to go to the HBCU, which is a historic a black college. And you know, we living in Indiana, my daughter and I'm applied to Howard. She don't apply to other major and she got accepted.

And so when I'm my career starting to take off, so you feel like everything is just like finally in place. Yeah. And it's like you're living like a normal person. Yes. And your kid is, now your daughter is about to go to college and how old was your other child at that point? Well, the child was in, he was, she was 17.

So he was 16. He probably, and it's even great. Okay, so like life is finally getting easier. They're self-sufficient. You're not raising any babies. Well, no, I got my nieces there with the 40. No, but I'm saying like, so that life is finally getting easier. They're self-sufficient. You're not raising any babies. Well, no, I got my nieces there with the four kids. No, no, but I'm saying like, so that you're like, okay, and then you hear that, no, keep them.

So then what happened? And so when I, when I say, well, we can't put them in the foster home, we had this baby for six months. You love this fucking baby. Right. Of course. You know, she didn't ask to be here. We saw this baby come off drugs. We saw this baby do.

Now, all the nieces kids that you're for? At the time it was a six month old baby, a two year old girl, and a boy and a girl that was six, five or six. So I said, I was a girl five and a boy six. So I said, you know, all little, yeah.

All little, yeah. I left him at my house, so I said, you know what? I'm gonna keep them, but I don't know how. So since I'm a convicted fellow, make a long story short, then stay to Indiana, say, you don't qualify for anything. Because you got caught for selling drugs? Yeah, because I'm a extra adult, I'm a convicted fellow.

So they said, well, if you took my niece's kid, they gave you $700 and $900 per child. Since it was me and I was a family member, they only gave me $2,000, I mean, $310 for four kids. No food stamps, no food stamps, no childcare, nothing, nothing. I couldn't get anything. So to get food stamps, I had to put my whole household on it.

Well, my husband worked at General Motors. I wasn't gonna do that. I worked my ass to get out the system. I wasn't going back for these kids, so I said fuck it. So make a long story short. Don't make it short. This is so interesting. Well, and sad, but inspiring too.

Like I want to know, like I appreciate you telling that how you, you know, would change your mind and know that you're, you know, doing the right thing. It's gonna reward you. You have to believe that, you know, we change your mind and know that you're, you know, doing the right thing, it's gonna reward you. You have to believe that, you know, everything happens for a reason. Why God took those four kids and placed them in my life? I realized it now, but at the beginning, I was pissed off.

So, you know, I don't have permanent custody. Nobody's trying to give me permanent custody. So my mind said, well, go apply for temporary custody, right? Cause she didn't leave. She just left the kids and they came to the house and said, well, you got food in the fridge. You could take care of the kids. Well, no, I can't if I don't have no way

of talking and speaking for these kids. So I go, I literally, I go to the courthouse and get temporary custody. I go in front of a judge. He hit the mic and said, I am a fan because I did a popular show Bob and Tom, you know Bob and Tom and he said, well, do you want permanent custody? And I said, yes.

And that day I got permanent custody. And people say, how the fuck did you get permanent custody? I say God placed me in front of the right judge, understood my situation. Totally. Who wanted these kids to have a future? So now the youngest is 10 years old and won't shit the hell up, but I love it a death. And I have two knife graders and I have a seven greater and they're thriving. They're great. That is awesome. Now where is the mother?

Selling pussy in the West end of Atlanta somewhere. I don't know. But she doesn't reach out. Well, what about like in the day of social media? Like she doesn't. I don't put them on social media They don't have a phone. I know but she doesn't try to like DM you or find you or she's She's she's not trying to well. I'm a no nonsense person. I don't play no games I'm feeding one years old Heather. I'm a tough of this shit You're not gonna come here with your cracky stores and try to play with my emotions leave them alone Just leave them alone. You saw what happened when your mama stepped back in your life.

So let's break this cycle and lead these kids along. Let them grow up. If they decide to come back and let you be their mama, then you can be their mama. They know who their mama is. They call me auntie. They only call me mama when they want something. Oh, they're introducing me as their parents.

So, you know, nobody got a really no, our business. Right. They know I'm their, they, they they grand up or whatever they are like, I don't know what I am to them. Yeah, I get your big grand, yeah. Yeah, but I don't try to, I don't, we don't discuss their mother. We don't discuss their father.

All I'm here to do is love you and give you the foundation to start off of, a solid foundation to start off of, something that I never hate. Now what happened with Garrett? What, I'm still married. Oh, I thought you said I was married for 31 years. No, I'm married for 31 years. Oh, you're still good.

I'm glad I, the whole time I was getting waiting for the sad part of when Garrett, after everything he's done. No, I wasn't trading me in for the world. Oh, good, good. No, I'm still married. Okay, great. Okay, so then you start doing stand up.

And I feel like, how long I feel like you've been popping for like, what, like 15 years? That we're like, we're like, what was your first series? I remember reading that you had a series. Maybe it was just a pilot, but I remember reading like what your pilot was about,

about taking in the four kids and all this stuff. And I was like, wow, this is really, I'm excited. This is interesting. Yeah, so I did Joe Rogan and I did Mark Marin. And I'm not one. When I tell you they released those podcasts when they didn't say, we, Hollywood came knocking. And they was like, we want, this is a TV show,

and I met like six or seven studios. And I ended up on- What year is this now, round? Mm. I don't remember five years ago. Oh, I'm only five. What's the big one? I used to go, because I, I used to go.

No, I think it's more longer than that. Yeah, I think it's more like 10 or something. Yeah, so I tend now, because it took five years to get on TV, and I'm going into the fourth season of it. Oh, okay. So I went through a couple production companies and my Fox, I landed at Fox, which was good everybody thought. And then went through two writers

and it was lead daniel run how a project. And so, you know, you don't get three chances of developing those sitcoms. No. They throw you inside the dough. But for some reason, I got three chances. And so it had to be good. I said, hold on. I got this person for you,

but I haven't developed them right. So all while I go through these two writers, it's a young kid named Jordan E Cooper sent somewhere in his last year at high school getting ready to go to college. And he's gone to his college for fine or here in New York. And he ended up getting on the same agency that Lee Daniel was with.

And when they threw the show out the second time, Lee asked Fox, give her one more chance, we got something here. Make a long story short. This, he said, I got this kid, I'm gonna go to the street. I found this kid, Jordan E Cooper. And this kid studied me so hard. I mean, he's only like a freshman in college. He's joining Cooper. And this kid studied me so hard. I mean, he's only like a freshman in college.

He's only like 21, 21, 22. Oh, but he's in college. No, no, I'm so. No, he was in college this last year. Wow. He read the graduate. And he was like, just drop out. Okay.

I said, well, don't drop out. Finish your college degree. You don't wait this many years. So in his last year of college, we were writing. We were trying to develop the show. We take it over to Fox and Fox is like, so he's studying, he watched all your stand-up specials. He was a tall-ass, everything.

Okay, yeah. But Fox said, this boy never developed nothing. How are we gonna let him come in and develop a show? This is Fox. He's 21, 22, no. So as we run Howard Company and Fox is looking for another out there writer, I tell the kid, I say, So as we're looking as run as run Howard company and Fox is looking for another our third writer. I tell the kid I say, look boy, they're never going to hide you

their line to you. Let's write a pilot. And if it don't work, I just say I wrote the pilot. So we up for a week straight putting this thing together. Cool. He kind of had it in his head. And I just gave him, you know, I gave him the, I gave him the vehicle. He was already had the driver's. He had to be, I already had to showcase, to be honest with you. We get it together, we ride in this pilot, we go back and forth, we've eight days in. I said, Lee Daniel, I want you to read something.

And he's like, what do you want me to read? And he's like, you need to stop trying to write stuff. We already getting your writers, but as I'm talking to these production come which is running out There's a we got four more writers for you to me. I'm like right motherfucker right right hurry up So I take and he's like in college still like going to classes Yes, and the right is sick calm. That's amazing. Right. The sitcom as amazing I handed over to Lee Daniel. He read it. He called me back. He said who the fuck wrote this and I said me

He said no, you didn't everything is spent right And so I Tell him the kid that he brought to me wrote this and he couldn't fuck some couldn't believe it They was like okay, he could write the pilot So we we we had pretty much wrote the pilot Wow and not only did we write the pilot we had the whole first season planned out, they had they picked it up. And so you shot it? We know. They switched the character. They allowed me to be me more. Okay. So with that, my sitcom is the first to do that type of like,

cousin really pushing the envelope, I believe. So they was like, well, we can't show this on network. And so the co-create is like, well, let's tackle to streaming service. Hulu bought it. And Hulu buys it, say, hell no. This is true, this is true, Adrenale. Well, I just don't think,

I think some people at Hulu wanted it, but the decision making didn't understand what it was like to be a black mom in America. They didn't think people like me is this because they never interact with a misspad before, but it's a whole audience out there for that type of mom, you know, blunt, honest, set your black ass down. Don't make me slap your white, you know, I said, I kind of shit on my show. So, I just think that they didn't think it was a market or an audience for that. Then they let it lose beat. They dropped it. I never forget how the, I was going on stage, sold out in

Rolly North Carolina. I get a phone call at a lead day. You can hear the crackling in this voice. He said, who didn't pick you up? And I said, okay, that's fine. I said, but I'm sold and I got to go. I said, oh, you okay? So I'm fine. Now, one time in my heart that I not believe that they will pick up that show, somebody, two months gold by BET plus, what like to do your show? And I said, what the hell is BET plus? And so my co-creator was, he knew everything about TV. You know, if he's from a streaming service, I was new, he knew about it. And he's like, oh my god, he got less than a million followers.

We gonna doubt that. And I said, one thing I know about life, from selling crack all the years that I sold it. If your product is good, the people will come. No matter what the fuck you at. Let me tell you something, you got some crack here that will climb to the moon to get what they want. And I'm just being honest.

And so we created a show, went over to BET, they released it, bam, it's shit to app down. Cause so many people were so much trying to watch it. So many people were watching it. That is so awesome. Yes. And so now that show is my sitcom.

Is a sitcom based off of my life. And you feel that in Atlanta. I feel that in Atlanta. Awesome. So that's close. So it's like you can just go out of your door and go to the studio and do you do it in front of a live audience or a single camera.

We do it in a live audience, which a lot of people got away with. What? Yeah. But no, but we have a party. We're not telling you people are lined up to come see me. It's Pat Shoe tape live. And I think we're the only one that's doing it in Atlanta.

Right. So we taped the pilot in L.A. and we just took everything that we learned from L.A. over to Atlanta. What you was a little hard in the beginning because they don't shoot live shows. And people are not used to coming to see live sitcom shot like that. Yeah, but it worked. I mean the third season was popping. We was turning people away.

Amazing. I now you have another show. Yes, I'm a judge. And so tell us about that because I love this. So it's called Miss Pat Sellers It. So after the Miss Pat Show was pretty successful. miss Pat's cell does it. So after the miss Pat's show was pretty successful. My agents and thing we started to talk with Viacom and BT and I ended up getting the overall deal over there and because I just I like being at Viacom because they understand who I am and they allow me to create in my voice. They don't try to strip me on my voice. So I signed a two year deal over at Valkham and my deal was to bring them more shows. So I brought them the court show. And I said, hey, I got an idea,

but I think it should be somebody else. And they's like, no, what about you? And I said, what do you mean? What about me? I'm a convicted felon. They was like, I said, I can't be a judge. I'm in the jail. And it's like, oh, TV, you could be Jesus.

So I taped it and I was like, oh, I like this. So people coming with like a people's court. Is there a real case? Yeah, and then you got to think, feel, so like what are some of the cases? Tell me one case that you got to decide who should get one. Well, this one black lady went to her friend. She wanted a fair faucet haircut.

Fair faucet. You know, everybody wanted to look like fair fossil. And I don't want to know why these plus sides wouldn't think they could look like fair fossil, but she cut the wig of like Joe dirt. Hehehehe. Oh, she brought the wig to be style. He did.

Okay. Okay, and when I tell you she chopped that wig, you're like, it had been through a blender. Hehehehe. So it's, and what was crazy, because I didn't know it was real cases of real people. and it just like it had been through a blender. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha You didn't even know that to your actual filming. So I was actually filming, just giving out money. Oh my God, that's hilarious. I love that. Okay, so I wanna ask you a little bit,

since you're in Atlanta, I am a big housewife fan. Have you had any dealings with the real housewives of Atlanta? Do you know any of them? Have you ever popped in for a scene or anything? I just did some promo with Neenie. I love her. Oh yes, I do too. And Candice, I see Candy all the time.

Candy's the best. Yes, but who is, I don't really, I bump into them at parties and stuff, but I've never really watched a housewives. Oh, okay. So, I'm not a reality type type person. I'm my background. Well, I mean, those are the two,

Candy and Neenie, like they are, like Will Neenie, pursued acting and everything before and then since she's active. So she's in the professional realm and then of course Candy is too. So like,

you and the other ladies are just, you know, really housewives, you know, that got on the show. So yeah. I mean, so I bump into, I see everybody, you know, nice, out, you know, that got on the show. So, yeah. I mean, so I bump into, I see everybody, you know, nice, out, you know, whatever.

I'm in that little circle now, so if I go to an event, you probably see most of them. Yeah, I love it. And now I wanna ask you, what do you think? Now, I am going to buy Jada's book today. I'm going to the bookstore because I wanna read it myself and I also wanna listen to the audio because I'm hearing all the clips about Jada's book today. I'm going to the bookstore because I want to read it myself and I also want to listen to the audio because I'm hearing all the clips about Jada and Will

and you're probably seeing all the clips too of the things that she has said. And so I just want to get your opinion of them in general. What do you think is going on? I don't know what's going on. I tell people all the time, mind your damn business. If you mind your damn business, I got all the stuff going oh my god diabetes. He passed gas at night. He's true really loud I don't give a damn about no jailing wheel

Yeah, I'm hoping she doing all of this to make this book a best cell because I think she is I mean I'm buying the book to let me tell you I'm buying the book and I don't even read no damn book I'm definitely buying the book too. Let me tell you something. Yeah, I'm buying the book and I don't even read no damn book. I'm definitely reading the book. No, I mean, it's just, she's dropping, you know, a lot of things that are, you know, nobody can't read them out. She will put something like, what's your guy like, I have a piece of the man been there for over 20 years. She said you got an alopecia too. Yeah.

He ain't got a head no more. Are you what she also said? I forgot to say this cause it got a head no more. You what she also said I forgot to say because it talked about this over show. Do you know that like Willow the daughter of she and will wrote some letter to pop to pop to to to to pop and say please come back down from heaven. So my mommy can be happy and will was aware of it. Well that is like I just feel bad for will So how the, and then other people say I shouldn't feel bad for Will.

Well, I have this obvious, you've never had any good black dick before. You are 100% correct. When you get good black dick, I haven't had any. Well, when you get some good black dick, you will be writing Jesus to to bring them good black ditch back. Okay.

So I've a years willow knew who with two pocket put on your whole mama and she wanted to see her mama green. And I tell people out of time that's a difference between Thugdick and educated deep. They don't run in the same circle. What's the difference of the circles? One on pound you, one on my hunch. Wait, one will what? One pound you. Oh, one pound, okay. And the other one goes jump to and slow.

Wait, so which one is which? The ghetto is the pounder. The ghetto is the pounder. The ghetto is the pounder. Oh, that's good six. Well, the guy got a tattoo. They can't read, they thugged out, and they can fuck. K. What about women who fall in love with a guy behind the bars?

I'm fascinated by that. They have a whole, that's who they're seeking out. They visit them. They didn't know them even before they got in. What, what do you think of women like that? Women that do, they like having a boyfriend who's in prison. They feel they're gonna save him, they can visit him. I think the images are crazy.

I mean, but you gotta say, hey, they've been... You, the thugs, we've got some good sex, have them. They do. But I don't know, it's according to how long he been in jail for me, because you don't want him to buy the company down and just want to switch it back out because they don't know the side. Some people like me and it go both way.

I like my man to go one way. So, oh, you mean, it's something that our bisexual is, by the way. Yes. I always remember that one of my favorite operas was the down low episode. Do you remember that one of my favorite operas was the down low episode. Do you remember that one? You know, I remember the episode.

I remember that. This was like so eye opening. So Oprah had on all these black guys who then were like, we're on the down low. That was the first time I ever heard the down low. And. Yeah, the. Yes, on Oprah.

But this is like 20 years ago. This is a long time ago. The height of Oprah, like, you know. And they were like, look, we have wives, girlfriends, but we just like, we like having sex with men, but we don't wanna be in a parade, we don't wanna live a gay lifestyle. We're just on the down low.

And I'm hearing these women's stories about how they never knew and then they came home one day and what they're seeing. And I'm like, and I guess it was because for this age of men, which now these guys would be, you know, 56 years old, it was just so unexpected to be gay. To be gay. It was only to be honest, something to be gay to be gay only to see it's only it was only to be unaccepted to be gay to people who wasn't gay if people minding fucking busy would have never been on a separate I never gave a fuck about nobody being gay yeah about my own vagina I can only keep up with my I can barely keep up with when they get the growing a little like the gap band down there so I can't

be worried about nobody else. That's the promise I don't we too bit we too busy worried about it. All you got to do is be happy right if you were if you're happy You can't notice what other people is doing you only noticing shit because you're miserable Yes, and you and the stuff that you're noticing is somebody else's happenings, that's why you got an opinion. And that's what's wrong with the word. Jada and Peter, Jada and Will been switching out each other for years. Why has everybody shocked? Well, she said they're not.

She said all those rumors about them being swingers and gay and open marriage, whatever was not true until seven years ago when they said, when they said we're separated, then she got with her son's friend. Yeah. And then I could understand why. Did you not see his penis? August.

It was healing. How did you see August's penis? It's some draws on Instagram, right? It's her photo of him walking across the street and you see it. No. Why didn't that kind of deep calmer. Oh.

Fuck you think we got black men got cow dicks. No, white and there's time when you get a guy, whether it's John Hammers White or anybody of any ethnicity, and they're wearing a certain kind of pan. Yes, you can really see it through the clothes. Did you see it naked or through the clothes? I think I saw it through the clothes. Okay, and it looked big. Yeah, and it wasn't even hard.

I mean, but you, you a middle-aged woman, right? Yeah. Come on, Wilson, if it's 52, 55, maybe. He ain't doing what Olga Agustin was doing, whatever his name. He ain't doing what he's doing, okay? So let's just keep it real. I can understand why she jumped on that bike.

It hit both wheels. But if you find your man got a flat, somewhere. I love your analogies and expressions. That is really what makes your comedy so funny and unique. I mean, you married some sometimes to keep the spice, you got a rumminess, ooh, Lord, I remember in 1992. Then you started imagining that person. Yeah.

You know, and all of a sudden you hollering, and he's like, why are you hollering? You're like, you look like, oh, is you? That never happened to you? Don't say you're here. I've been married 23 years. Yes, okay, we go through. Yeah, I haven't married 23 years, but you know, listen, I'm watching

the Golden Bachelor. I don't want to be on it. So now I'm like, I'm happy. I'm happy. You know, but there's times when your friends are getting divorced and they're getting some fresh dick and you're hearing the stories at the dinner and you're then you come home to the man in the lazy chair, whatever. And you're like, but in the end, you know, it's always having a good man that's with so important, but that's just all the truth of it, you know. I truly understand why middle-aged women are out date older me. I mean, younger.

I can't do it because they lazy, they each, I have a 37-year-old son. I could never see me dating a 37-year-old. That's just not my thing. Plus, they got too much energy for me. I just want to lay down and look at TikTok. I don just not my thing. Yes. Plus they got too much energy for me. I just want to lay down and look at TikTok. I don't want you rubbing on me. You know, you got to fix yourself up for them. You got to put on a good bra. It's hard to tell a 37 year old while your titties are on

even. So I'm gonna keep what I got because I don't have this playing stuff. My husband know how to untouch my navel. Me my nipple for my navel. 37 year old, well, no, why is that connected? Boy, pulling a pallet, okay? So I'm gonna keep what I got. Too much instruction. Too much instruction. We're done, yeah.

Oh my gosh, so funny. Thank you so much for coming on. Now you have a big tour with lots of dates. Yes, I do, it's called my first theater tour. Call your girl, done made it. Oh my God. That's what it's called. Your girl, done?

Oh, I love it. Yes. Oh my gosh. So you're going everywhere. Minneapolis this weekend. Mm-hmm. Dallas, Washington, D.C. Oh, you said you're at the Howard Theater, did you say?

I have two shows at the house. I performed there. It's beautiful. I heard it was beautiful. It's beautiful. That's in Washington, D.C. You're going to It's beautiful. I heard it was beautiful. It's beautiful. That's in Washington DC. You're going to Philly, San Antonio, Houston, Atlanta. Of Chicago.

Chicago is my favorite place to perform. Cleveland, Mad, oh, look at all these new dates. Cleveland, Madison, San Francisco, Portland, are fabulous. Oh, you got to do this, go to Miss Pack, do you remember where you are in San Francisco? I just came from there. You know what, man, in San Francisco?

So tell everybody where they can buy the tickets and watch all the shows. I'll follow you. Miss PatCymany.com for your girl-dominated tour. But please tune in October 18th. BET at 10pm, I will be, they first judge. Yes. Miss Pat Cymany.

Yes, you look so pretty there, tell. Thank you. Thank you, I'm so their first judge. Yes. This Pat Seltos is it. Yes, you look so pretty there, tell. Thank you. Thank you. I'm so glad you came. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Yes.