Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Britney’s Ex Tell All, Kim K Strikes Again and Golden Bachelor Secrets

Episode Date: October 16, 2025

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every Friday. We have a very fun video that we're going to share with you that you will love that I'm only going to put on there and so much more all the time. So let's get into it. Well, Kevin Fetterline, Britney Speer's former husband, father over two sons, is coming out with his memoir. The title is horrible. The title is like, you thought you never knew. It's not a great title. But anyway, it's his memoir. He's doing interviews for it. And he goes on to say that he's very concerned for Britney's mental health and well-being, that everything got worse once the free Britney movement happened, and that his boys very much worry about her and want to have a great relationship with her.

He also reveals in his book that at one point when the boys were much younger, they woke up with her allegedly, like watching them sleep with a knife in her hand. And then you're like, oh, but they want to have a great relationship with her. Well, this is, you know, so her reps are coming forward saying, of course, Kevin comes out with a book now that the child support has ended since both boys are over 18. What is all the point of this? He says, no, I want nothing more than them to have a great relationship with her. But she is at full peak of spinning and the brown sensible pumps go on every trip, every location with her. And you know how I feel when those brown sensible pumps come out.

versus cowboy boots or something else or something about them and yeah it's concerning the the dollar dresses all of it but we're also really used to it and I kind of feel like people are just like whatever let her do her boo and he also said that the night before their wedding he caught her calling and talking to Justin Timberlake who was her you know boyfriend in the Mickey Mouse club and supposedly like they lost their virginia together and they were these you know big stars they had the dance off and the matching and then they also went on the red carpet and the matching jean outfits the whole thing and she said well i just you know wanted to talk to him one one last time what i find interesting is someone who has studied a lot about brittany spears is when she

was getting married for the second time actually the third because the first one was jason alexander that was that guy's name that she got married to in Vegas that was like her child and friend. Then she married K-Fed. When she was marrying Sam, who was on Juicy Scoop, Jason Alexander claimed that he was talking to her on the phone leading up to the day of the wedding and that he was in town and that she wanted to see him. This is all that he's like claimed in interviews and whatnot. And, you know, he has a kind of an interesting past and he does have someone of a record which could be disputed or alleged, whatever, nothing too serious, but he was found on her property in this area, not too far from where I'm recording

this, the day of the wedding, and they thought, oh, my God, you know, he's trying to get to her. Now, he claims in interviews Jason Alexander that she was, that they were talking, that they were contacting each other, and that he had plans to. to see her. And so he was going to, like, go through like a hill into her backyard to find her. Anyway, I just think it's interesting that in both cases of her getting married, she was in contact with an ex-boyfriend. I don't know. Anyway, K-Fed, who knows? But people are going to be curious about this book. Are people going to actually buy it and read it all the way through? Well, they should. If they're huge fans, we'll see. I mean, he did raise the boys. They seem to be doing

well. And if this is his truth, you know, we'll see. So there you go with that. Well, you guys, I've predicted a lot of things since I've been doing juicy scoop for 10 years, wearing my 10 year anniversary shirt. And some of it has been fashion. And I told you that with the rise a few years ago of side cleavage, then there was underboop cleavage. There was a, I said there's going to be vagina cleavage or groin cleavage. Or groin cleavage. I was right about that. Cameltoe has made a huge comeback. People can buy cameltoe insertion.

So if they feel like their leggings are not giving them enough of a camel toe and they're envious of the girl at the macha place who has a larger one, they can do that. People, I'm so sick of the sheer outfits that everybody's wearing where it's just like a G-string bikini nips out. and, you know, you would just wear like a sheer cover-up and you go to the Oscars. I think that look is done.

Well, one of the geniuses of our time is Kim Kardashian. What, Heather? Yes, genius marketing. When I first saw this, someone sent to me, I immediately went and did my own research because I couldn't, I was pretty sure it was real, but in this world, we don't know. And skims, the billionaire,

billion dollar company of Kim Kardashian is selling faux hair micro string thongs. It's a mixed of fake, curly, and straight hair. So I mean, I don't know who did it. You know, it's like if you blew out your hair and you just did like pieces of curling it on your head, you want to do that for your fake bush. And you can get in all different shades so it can match your color. There was a time when people said, everyone is getting their bushes lasered off. What if it comes back in style? Well, as my mother said, everything does come back in style, including a hairy bush. And so if you never went down the expensive, painful route of laser hair removal, let that thing grow and I guess soon you'll just be wearing it full, now you can just wear the

bush out because you can say, I'm not naked. It's my skims underwear. It's not my real bush. And wear that to the Oscars and the Emmys and everything else. It's $32. And if you'd like to buy one, you can join the wait list. It is sold out. The full micro-string thong is sold out. I don't know if this is just everybody doing it for fun. I don't know if this will be their slutty Halloween costumes. I don't know if there's seriously people who are swiping and talking to guys online who are like, I don't want to meet you at Starbucks unless I know you're sporting a full bush. It's my new thing.

And then they're like, shoot, I got that lasered out in 2009. Oh, thank God. Let me just see if I can get one. What? Skims can give me one with an end. The curtain can match the roots. That's an expression a lot of people use where they'd say when people did have hairy pubs, they'd be like, you're a redhead, but does the curb, wait, what is it? Oh, do the curtains match the

carpet? I think that's what it meant. Meaning, does your hair on your head match it down there? Well, now if you dye your hair blonde or another color, you can go get the matching thing. Now, you would be able to see the string. So I don't know if a guy is going to be turn around and go, get the hell out of here, you fake piece of shit. And then you're like, I'm not a fake piece of shit. I just have a faux hair micro string thong on by skims. Laugh all the way to your private Kim Airjet because who's ever buying this, you're an idiot. You wear this with your, you know, your nips on the outside of your bra. And you go get yourself a man.

And if you cannot, I don't want to hear you crying about it. Also on the same day of releasing the faux hair micro skims G-string, Heidi Klum, kind of get into a desperate place, girl. Like, you know, she wore a sheer thing to Paris Week, and it's like, we get it, you're still hot. I saw her do an interview saying, I just like to walk around naked, it's just really fun. I just like to be nude all the time. That's where I'm most comfortable. So to keep with that theme, she's filming herself like laying in her bed with her nails and you don't see her nip, but you see her pulling like one lone, long nipple hair.

And she's just talking to the audience. Like, what do you guys do when you get a long nipple hair? Like, and people are just, you know, being a concerned citizen. Like I just tweez it. Oh, no, girl, just trim it. Just cut it. Just add it to the hairs in the corner that you can then make your own faux mini bush. and compete with skims.

Insane. Last night, Real Housewives of Salt Lake City was on, and I have to say, these girls are naturally funny. The editing is amazing. And real fights and real arguments are truly happening, and they truly have real friendships as well. So I am thoroughly entertained. They had a party at a estate because Whitby said, ever since,

I just tried to be this Whitmy Rose Beauty, just in my husband, didn't care about my beauty company, and I stopped getting tattoos, I stopped twirling on a pole and rolling around in body paint with him. And it was already too late because he lost his job. And then he didn't want to help me sell Whitney Rose Beauty. And it really hurt me. So now I'm going back to Whitney Rose Wildness. And we're going to have some fun at an estate. winery. And then Mary, the former church leader, comes, or maybe she still has one,

she comes, and she truly is a very funny person. And she's just like, I don't know why Whitney, little girl Whitney, would have her party here. The owner killed his wife and himself in front of his dog. And the dog, they said, was never the same. And I'm like, my God, what if this was your estate, you're all excited that Real House House of Salt Lake City is going to film. And you're like, this is such great publicity for our wine, for people that want to have parties here. And now she just unloaded the deep, dark, like, ghost-like secrets that's happening at wider. But maybe it'll also help. Maybe that'll even get more people to want to come like during Halloween times. I don't know. But hilarious. So they go and they're having their wine. And since it's a flower theme party,

some of them came into some real flowers a huge flowery coat Bronwyn who does you know these crazy outfits arrives and then Meredith Marks comes in this thing that is very strange it's a jean jacket matching skirt and matching over the knee boot all with like gray flowers coming out of it and Mary goes looks like a walking virus and Meredith is like oh really this is my outfit it's a wonderful idea for a flowery garden party. Hello. And so they, right off the bat, Lisa Barlow, she comes in, ready to have a fight with Angie. And she's like, you want me to go low? I'll go lower. Okay. And then Angie's like, why would you write me this text? What is this about? She's like, because you went on a trip to Greece. You couldn't afford it. You had to borrow a friend's credit card.

and then you had to write them a check after. I'm just saying that's what I know, okay? I didn't have to dig it up. And she then opens her wallet, Angie, and she's like chucking out black cards and credit cards, a Discover card from 1992 fell out. Everything is just, I've got credit cards. I've got cards.

And they are just going back and forth and fighting. Meanwhile, Whitney had this intuitive psychic come that did tarot cards. and he seemed like a real delight. And it's my opinion that he's gay. There was a, he appeared to be a man that was gay. Okay. I just say what's great about this, but I am curious, is the only psychics I've ever seen featured on TV or in real life have either been women or gay men.

I have never seen a straight male psychic on any kind of show. Now, is it just they don't get hired on TV? or do they actually are straight men not blessed with any psychic ability? This is a real question I have, and I want to hear from you. Anyway, he seemed to definitely get some intuitiveness. Lisa Barlow, he clicked into the fact that she's having marital problems, which she hasn't shared with the girls on the show. And she was like, yes, sometimes we just have a communication problem.

And so she was very touched by what he had to say. And then same with Whitney Rose. and her husband. Then what was interesting is he had the new girl, Brittany on, and he said, one of your daughters, you know, is having trouble with your relationship. And she was like, how would he know that? I'm shaking. How would he know that? And then the brilliant editors show seven scenes from the previous season, which have already aired, in which she talks about how she and her daughters, especially her younger daughter, he is not on the same page in the aren't communicating. So that was kind of fun. Anyway, Bronwyn is crying with this psychic about

her mother and then her mother might get sick and she needs to repair this relationship. And there's just so many like honestly really crazy things in it. But the whole thing took place at this winery screaming. And then at like one point someone would be screaming and then the woman running the right winery would be like, I just opened up some more Rose. And she'd walk off. and then each person that was leaving in a huff had to pass the psychic reading of their co-star as the co-star is crying, they're just like, I've had it, they walk out. I mean, if, I mean, if this was scripted, you'd say, this is too much, but I, this was not scripted. This was so funny and so real.

So I give it to them. Okay. Kim Zulziak of Real Housewives of Atlanta, you know she's going through a divorce with Croix. Corey recently posted a post about domestic abuse that he was a victim of that and all he's trying to do to get out of his world. When we met him, he had blonde hair. Now he has red with a red beard, which is interesting. Anyway, I would love to talk to Corey. Now, when we first met Kim Zulziak, she was a single mother of two.

and she was open about how she had this boyfriend that she referred to as thank you big papa she'd call me papa and he'd buy her range rovers at a drop of a hat he took care of her lifestyle and people found out back then that he was in fact married and they had whatever an open kind of relationship he never appeared on the show she never said his name well now kim zolziak is being subpoenaed in a hundred million dollar divorce by man's estranged wife demanding answers over gifts. This appears not to be Big Papa. This couple who's going through a divorce, the wife is saying the husband, you know, is worth $100 million, which now is nowhere to be found. So they're in a contentious financial divorce, this couple. They got

married in 2017, which is why we know it is not Big Papa. But she believes that Kim Zulziak received gifts from her husband. And when you're going through a forensic accounting divorce, you want to show all of that. It's not just about the cheating. It's like, where is the money? And according to Kim's people, allegedly, she was subpoenaed. She has not made her appearance at, you know, being subpoenaed and being questioned, but she finds it humiliating and unnecessary and why are they dragging her into it. But come on, that's juicy. And, you know, if she was having a relationship with this guy who was going through his divorce and he was giving her gifts in the last couple years, that wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. She and Corey have been separated and fighting

and living in the house in two different areas of the house for a couple of years. So who knows if it crosses over or not, but that was stuff that we would hear in the fights when the cops would come and their body cam would catch them arguing about whether, you know, she doesn't want him in her closet or he's like she's doing this and that. So that is why it's really juicy if you've covered the case. If in fact she found another big papa to help to be a generous boyfriend to her. And if he was so generous, then why did she also have to take Ariana's money? Is that her name? Her daughter's Arreal and Ariana. Yeah, Ariana's the younger one who is on Gen Z, New York, or next-gen, New York, in which she revealed that all the money that she made as a kid,

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And now she wishes she had freckles because now people actually paint the freckles on their face. But freckles are not. I think they're doing fine as a mother and daughter. I kind of want to know more about this relationship. And I don't blame the ex-wife for doing everything she can to figure out where this money is. Cooler days call for layers that last and quince is my go-to

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But the oddest thing is that he got some strange plastic surgery. I think it's a combination of plastic surgery, weight loss, just all. fashion aging, but the kind of plastic surgery that, like, changes the shape of your eyes and stuff where it's like what? And people aren't saying he is looking like Barry Manilow. And he really is. It's, everyone's like, what the hell happened to Bradley Cooper? I mean, I do feel like I'm looking at a completely different person. He is transitioning. I mean, I don't know what is who is transitioning into Barry Manilow like 25 years ago. And it's just weird and there's some really great plastic surgery out there you know chris jenner and people being one of

them and then there's those like him and simon cow that like you're like wow that face looks real different like it's strange but he it's still cute enough to be a celebrity doing mainstream commercial so i don't know what's going on with the acting career but the face might be holding them back, you know. Okay. Real Housewives of Potomac little, what if she talked about, Wendy. So I watched the episodes last night. And it is pretty disturbing now that she's been arrested. And what I did not realize, this is Wendy who got caught for lying about being robbed. There's some new developments in it. One of the things that she said to the interviewer, Gibson, was, yes, and I live in a beautiful area, and there has not been a robbery here in 20 years or something.

And this never happened. So I definitely think it was targeted because I'm Dr. Wendy, famous, real housewives of Potomac, rich woman who dresses so fabulously. And I also saw this person do a whole rant saying, Wendy, when people were hiring you to be a consultant on like CNN or whatever, it wasn't Wendy with the fine looking clothes. It wasn't like, what's Wendy going to be wearing today? they really appreciated her mind and her education which she always bragged about and now I guess she can hang her her four degrees out of my degree behind me from USC but if I had four of them and I was Wendy

I guess you could ask to hang that in your jail cell but anyway she um so these episodes that were filmed she's talking about how they're going to redo their living room and get a marble fireplace all the way up to the second story and she's like Eddie's doing so well he's he's opening his marijuana business to two different two more states and he's just rolling in it and this this aired and then she was arrested so this aired like two weeks ago and then she was arrested last week and what i didn't realize is that she was wearing the wedding band that she said was stolen in an episode of the show of the show that aired and when they did the timeline that day of filming was post quote unquote the robbery also um i guess you know she made sure that everyone in the

neighborhood she was doing her you know neighborly good thing saying be careful we were just robbed and um you know in letting them know that they that's keeping with the story that we were robbed and i hope this doesn't happen to anybody else and just be aware and you know trying to be a good neighbor. And so it is funny to kind of watch that. But she resigns from university job after the fraud charges. However, that university job has come forward and said, no, we, she was no longer working for us. One of them, like, she was like a, she wasn't at John Hopkins. She was at a different school. Anyway, they're basically saying, no, we could let her go before. She's saying, I, whatever. She's not working. She's not teaching your kids while she awaits these charges. Little Megan Markle news.

She had a lot of fun in Paris Week, fashion week. There was some controversy. You know, she's very much doing like the new makeup and she's stunning and the solemn like face as she's walking out and why not. You know, you're like in the fashion week and looking beautiful. She did post one video of her in the back of a big car maybe i don't even think they make new limo so i don't know that was a limo but like whatever with her feet up and and people caught that it was truly close to the horrible accident scene that princess diane died in so that wasn't good maybe it was conscious maybe it wasn't um they're saying that mcgan markle according to new york post had invited herself to Paris Fashion Week, Balenciaga designer says, well, I think a lot of people

reach out. I think a lot of celebrities have their reps reach out and, you know, say, oh, you probably don't, you're probably not aware, but Megan's going to be there. She's going to be going to lots of shows, and she's free at 2 o'clock on Friday. If you have a spot for her, she'd love to attend and we can arrange that. That's not like the worst thing in the world. Then she, let's see, then she went, and spoke at appeared at a Fortune's Most Powerful Women's Summit where she revealed her Netflix series with Love Megan will be dropping a holiday special. So I cannot wait to see what fun treats that she comes up with

that are decorated with Christmas flowers or parts of your Christmas tree that you can cut up and actually make edible as you sprinkle it on a homemade Christmas tree or not, it could be like a little trick, like, oh, what I like to do is I just take the sugar cookies and then I roll them up and then I flatten them out again just to add three more steps and make little Christmas tree cookies. And my kids love this. They feel that this is a beautiful, um, fun thing to do. And I'm so excited for my guest to come, Mrs. Claus. And we're going to talk to her. And then Mrs. Claus comes and she never asks her.

anything about her marriage or about her life and Megan just talks about herself and as she's in her you know house fake house down the road acting like she you know had just organized her fridge that day I think good times are about to come on that Christmas special you better believe I'll be watching it um Hilaria Baldwin did get the boot from Dancing with the Stars which is all based on audience voting and she is claiming that she was bullied I was bullied by a bunch of mean girls that, you know, they have been after me since the very beginning. They are obsessed with me. They're always talking online about me and I don't know why. And the way it works is people have to vote for you. And they gathered around and they got so

many people to vote for the other people that then I didn't have enough votes for me. That's bullying. That is bullying. And that is not okay. And my little baldwinos are shaking. And they don't know why their mother is no longer shaking on TV, but in fact, in front of them. Also, shaking is Alec Baldwin, who appears to just got into a bad accident. It did seem to be a rainy day. He was with his brother and Stephen Baldwin, and who was wearing a very unfortunate outfit, and they crashed, he crashed his, like, range rover into a tree in the Hamptons. And, but I don't think there's anything like, Like, there's no, nothing Karen Hugarish about it.

But anyway, it was a big week for her. Okay. I thought this was really interesting. This is, Will Smith was doing an interview. I don't know when it was, but it popped up. And I listened to it, and I thought it was fascinating. And he was talking about how when Willow, his daughter, she was only like nine or ten, came up with that song,

I whip your hair all around. I whip your hair all around. And she had these long, long braids. and she would sing the song and whip her hair all around. And she did a great show and everybody loved it. And he was like, you were great, baby. And Willow goes, but I'm done now. He goes, what do you mean?

She's like, no, I'm done. I don't want to do the shows anymore. I don't want to perform anymore. I don't want to whip my hair around anymore. And he's like, but Willow, you promised Mr. Jay-Z that you would go on a 40 city tour with him. And we need to commit, we need to keep to our commitments. and she said, I didn't commit to that. Dad, you did. And he's like, no, no, no. We cannot, I cannot call

Mr. Jay-Z and tell him that you're not going to whip your hair around. Once you do these 40 cities at nine years old, then you can, then you can stop. And he said, and she kind of got sad, and she went to bed. And the next morning, she came out and she had shaved her head. And I thought this is so brilliant. This is such an interesting story. And he got it. And I thought, what a brilliant girl to have done that. And that's when she, you know, shaved her head. She was like, I did the song and it was fun. And I don't, I'm a kid. I don't want to do a 40 city tour because, and that I just, when people ask me, what do you think about kids that are on reality shows or do or TV stars that are children or, and I say it's too much pressure on a kid that maybe didn't ask for it or might change

their mind that they're not into it anymore, you're not a 35 real that committed to going on a 40 tour, city tour. And even 35 reals that commit on going a tour cancel and flake out when they're over it and they don't care. And they don't care about their fans. So very interesting there. A couple updates on Real Housewives of Miami. I did not realize that when Adriana went over and said, you stole my heart. And so here it is. And she gave her this box with a heart in it. And I thought it was just like a weird, like, whatever, DIY, DIY, whatever, do your, what is it? Is it DIY? What is it when you make your own crafts? Anyway, I didn't know it was because earlier she said, Andy, Andy, when I first met Julia, she said, she said,

said, you're so beautiful. You look like Snow White. She was so into me. She said, I was the most beautiful girl that she had ever seen. She said, I love your boobs. She went into the bathroom with me and I let her feel my boobs. So right from the start, she was hitting on me. And so when she gives her that heart in the box, it had to do with the fact that when they first met, Julia called her Snow White. And now as Snow White, she's giving her her heart to the mean queen. I mean, thank you for the person that figured that out. This is like too much analyzing in a real housewife show, I swear. Speaking of gay relationships, Charlie Sheen has done yet another interview.

You know, he has his Netflix doc. He has his book out in which he says, after years of sleeping with tons of women and porn stars and everything else, he also, in the height of his crack addiction, got really into sleeping with men. he was always scared that someone would ring the doorbell or come out in the news, like, hi, I'm the guy that you slept with. I'm going to ruin your life or whatever. And that's why he's so happy that he just went free and talked about it. And he said, I'm with great company, Marlon Brando.

I allegedly slept with men as well, as well as the great comedian, Richard Pryor. And so he's like, yeah, so it's not a big deal. And that's basically what Julia said. Julia was like, I didn't want Adriana hanging over my head that I was a cheater and that I slept with her or whatever. And so now, yeah, everybody can be a little by, a little gay. And it is not a juicy scoop. So move on, people.

Okay. But now this was juicy. So you're talking about Miami, Gertie, who also no longer gets along with Julia. to remind you, Julia called her to panic and said, will you go on this two or three day yacht trip with me for influencers? I was supposed to take Martina, but she had a health scare and she cannot go. Gertie went, and then there was a big fun night with Captain Sandy, who is a lesbian, who's married, to have a fun dinner.

And Julia blew her off and said, get your own dinner by yourself in a restaurant down at the end of the ship. And so that really pissed her off. And then she said that she was, you know, she had a different story, Julia, of how she was so awful or something. I don't even know. So that was the story. So Gertie had shared her text messages about it and she felt they were edited to make it look like there was something more nefarious. She was just trying to show that she was actually invited by Julia.

Now people wonder, if Martina really had a health scare, why was Julia going at all? why wouldn't Julia blow it off? And also, maybe that's why she didn't want Gertie around. It's because she is such a cheater and such a nymph, as they said. And there were many, like, sexy, high-powered lesbians on this trip that she wanted to go to that dinner by herself. She didn't want Gertie to take any light from her and she wanted to do her own freaky thing.

Maybe that's the case. That's just a theory. But Gertie said in going back and forth under comments, this woman wrote to Gertie, her name's Connie Going. Gertie, you, Gertie Design, you are the eternal victim move on. This show defines no one. And then Gertie writes back to her saying, Hi, Connie, recognize you from our show.

You are Julia's social worker. But did she pay you a bonus to also be her social media spokesperson? Stay out of this and stick to foster caring. I will publicly expose all the nasty comments you have wrote about me and sent me. And if you've seen the show, you know I will. Come it up, Connie. I mean, and that's pretty juicy because that's a social worker. And then there were other comments about, you know, this is a woman who helped her get these foster kids.

Very, very interesting. So there you go with that. What a run. This champ is picking up speed. But they found a lane. Phenomenal launch into the air. Absolutely. Incredible Air Transat!

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See app for details. Ramona is in a movie. Yes, Ramona Singer is in a movie. I follow her. It's called, let me see, what's the name of the movie? Friendly distraction. Romona Singer has second billing, you guys. And I just cannot wait to see this movie.

It's on Tobe. And I can imagine she's going to be like, you know what? You know what really is a distraction? You know what? It's a bunch of hot guys, okay? I really like these hot guys. It's a place we're in New York.

What's going on? I don't know what's about. I don't know if it's a murder mystery. I don't know if it's about anti-aging cream. I don't know if it's about, you know what? It's about supporting women, okay? It's about supporting women and not being distracted by friendly people when you're doing it. So very excited for her.

Little update on the David murder trial that we talked about. Now, the guy who owns the house that David was renting at the time that he was seen with Celeste and she was missing and people witnessed them together he has hired his own private investigator which goes along which which I said on juicy crimes please subscribe it's in the below you can get that link subscribe listen to it

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Donna Edelson has been sentenced to life in prison. This is the mother-in-law. This is the famous case out of Miami and Tampa where this girl and her husband were having a horrible, contentious custody battle. She wanted to take their two young sons and move to Miami. He was teaching law in Tampa and didn't want that to happen. they were fighting and he came home from the gym and someone shot him in his car as he pulled into the driveway they eventually drew connections between the soon-to-be ex-wife her brother who was

a dentist had hired someone that um that worked in his office who also had an ex who was someone who could execute someone for money, he got convicted, the girl's brother, the girl's brother did, along with now the mother. They had all this evidence where the mother and the brother were talking, they'd been following them for a long time, in which they planned this hit on the son-in-law. When she got sentenced, the elderly mother stills claiming her innocence, speaking very highly of her brother-in-law, saying that he was hunted down and that she's totally innocent. And now people wonder, are they going to go after the daughter who was the soon-to-be ex-wife of the man who was executed during this contentious custody battle? Very juicy.

Some Golden Bachelor news. I hope you guys are watching it. I have a special treat coming up in a minute from the franchise. But the original Golden Bachelor, Jerry Turner, has a book coming out. And he is the one who got married to this woman. Teresa, they got to be. divorced after three months. He's already engaged to a woman. I try to find her age. I believe she's in her mid-50s. He's like 75 or something. I believe he also got a nice little facelift. Anyway, he seems happy. They're getting married. But he's also written a book. And he said, I am not worried, but Teresa should be. Like, what? What are you saying about this girl that you met on a contestant dating show and was only married to for three months? So he said he is spilling

the beans about Teresa and um also the bachelor is getting a mansion makeover they are saying that hd tv will take 12 bachelor nation alums with expert renovation skills and will return to the iconic mansion and give it an update which i believe it needs because i'm watching it right now and it is beautiful but it is looking a little dated and it's so that i think that's a great idea for a show And we also, I also found out that the newest bachelor, Mel Owens, Golden Bachelor, he talks about his ex-wife who, you know, wanted the divorce. The last episode he said, you know, about five years ago, she went forward with the divorce and he heard that she's getting married.

Well, I was sent evidence that she is, in fact, happily married to a woman, which I think even makes his case, maybe I'll come out later, but I'm not. I think that comes out even better for Mel because it's like it's not like he was you could assume if you're dating him. Well, it's not like you were such a horrible husband that she had to leave. It's like you're a man and she is in love with a woman and you can't compete with that. So I even think that made him even a better candidate as the next Golden Bachelor. So it's very fun show and I'm excited to have my good friend Maya Dreyer on it. She's going to walk us through what it was like to be chosen what happened while she was on it this current season and here we go with Maya.

Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Well, I have one of my friends that I've had for a very long time. We met right at the tail end of college. Maya Dreyer, I have told you guys that I had a friend on the Golden Bachelor. She's sitting here because she is not marrying Mel Owens. welcome mya thanks for having me hetty um i have to tell you so i'm really enjoying the show i wish you were had lasted longer but when there's not a love connection there's not a love connection but first i just want to say that i watched it again last night your part because you were just the first in the first episode right and knowing that you know you were married for a very long time you're divorced you have three grown successful children and i hadn't seen you be flirty in like ever like

because i we both been married so long you are now a single girl so to watch you come out of the limo and go hi i'm maya oh well that was um it was a minute you know it took me a minute to get comfortable getting out of the limo and seeing the bachelor mansion and the bachelor and the fountain and just what you see on TV. I was a little, I think, not myself at that moment. Because now I wonder when you do date, is that how you do it? Oh, yeah. When they come to the door, I'm in my sequined plunging dress and I say, hello. No, not at all. That was a very unnatural situation as you were like i'm maya from malibu just down the road from you up the road from you or something and so i think this was meant to be and i was like geez yeah so

let's go back to i mean i remember where i was when you called me and you said like you know this is happening it happened and what made you decide to do it like how did it come about it came about in a very i mean it was fate i believed i was in my room a few weeks before i arrived to shoot for the show it was maybe two and a half weeks and i got a text and it was a casting person and they said we got your information are you still single and i immediately thought it was a prank because they what do you mean the golden bachelor casting is texting me on 12 o'clock on a Wednesday. I said, prove you are who you are because I don't, this is weird. Yeah. And I said, I'm very busy right now is remodeling my place. I had contractors

there. I had a cabinet man there. I remember it like yesterday. And I said, I'm really busy right now. I can't talk, but maybe later tonight. And the guy said, it's our last day. All I need is five minutes of your time. So I said, okay. And he called me. And then... And so do you know how they found out about you? Was it just Instagram? I don't know how they found me, but then he FaceTimed me. And when he facetimed me, we talked for a bit and he said, I'd like you to meet producers. The next day, I had a Zoom was six and I had a great conversation. It was very effortless and easy. They were all really, really nice. And each day, it was a new, I mean, they really vet you to become a part of the show. You go through a lot of background checks. They just don't

let anybody on there. So each day I went through another kind of background screening and passed, and it was almost like going down a slide really quickly. Yeah. And all the doors just kept going and then lo and behold i was coming back from colorado and and the head of the casting called and said we want you on the show so i really thought it was fate like i didn't actively go after it i wasn't hustling to get it it came to me and so um as you know you know me it's very out of my wheelhouse to do something like this but i um i thought what the heck you know, life is short. I want to see what it's like.

I want to start being more adventurous and fearless. And I did it. And it definitely was one of the bravest things I've ever done. So you have boy girl twins. And how old are they now? They're 28. 28. And they, you know, you are a tall, gorgeous girl.

You created tall, gorgeous children who are also athletes, in collegiate athletes. So your son played football at Stanford. His twin also played volleyball, right, at UCLA and did another, did it at Santa Clara too. Right. She got a free MBA playing at Santa Clara. And then my baby played volleyball at Yale. So, which is then you made a career out of that too in helping other kids maneuver

how to become an athlete in college and get accepted, you know, write the right essays and all that so i don't help them write essay no you don't help them write essays but i empower them to achieve their college goals very good yes there's no this is not there's no rick singer there's no helping keeping academic that's all on them no law lawfulan was not a client of yours no so okay um so what happened when you who'd you tell first i'm guessing you told your daughters before your son oh my gosh told my son the absolute last person on earth i told because i was the most fearful he would be the one that would object he's very protective okay and so once i got the offer from casting the official offer he was the first one i called so when you were kind of going through it

wondering you were sharing with your daughters i shared with them and they were excited with jack um he like i you know he was a left tackle he protects the quarterback he protects his mother he Texas sisters. And so I was nervous. And when I called him, I was just, it was another example where I thought it was fate bringing me to do this experience. Because he was positive about it? He didn't talk for about five minutes. And I think I heard a thud. I think he fell to the floor. But then when he was able to speak, the first thing he said was, you sacrificed for us, you know, our entire life. And I think you should do it or you're going to have regret. and you deserve happiness and you deserve this opportunity.

Yes. And that was very surprising in a good way. And I thought there's nothing stopping me now. It's all a green light. Okay. So what can you tell us about the process of like choosing the clothes? So you have to pat. My favorite part.

Right. So you have to. Do they give you like a list like you would for a child at camp? Like you need this many kinds of outfits. in case you make it all the way to the end. Yes, you get a golden bachelorette camp packing list. That's exactly almost what you get. But I had, as you know, I like shopping and I like clothes. So for me, that was-

For people I don't know, Maya, also, before having kids was in the fashion world. Right. We met at the first job out of college, which was being an assistant buyer for Robinson's May, which then was, bought by Macy's. But it was not the fun fashion job that we thought it was going to be. Then I wanted to guess. Then you went on to guess and that was good. But she's still the person I love to shop with. And if I, she is the person I call and I say, should I get this? Should I not? Yeah, you just texted me a bag. Yeah. But so the shopping part, which is daunting for most people,

was the most thrilling for me. Yeah. Much more thrilling than being in front of a camera. You are to pack for I think it was eight rows ceremonies okay so that's eight dresses and um things for pool and dates and all of those things so that was a lot of fun and so so that how many bags did you have well they said bring two two big ones right so I had two very large ones because I think if you travel you're only allowed to bring two bags oh like you go on the next thing okay right all right so now how did like the initial like photo shoot and all of that go okay that was my absolute favorite thing of the whole thing okay i loved it the promo day where um i wore my red jumpsuit yeah and um that was ABC promos very now that jumpsuit did you pick out or was there a day because

they wanted you to kind of all like have a aesthetic of like these kind of bright colored outfits The wardrobe, ABC wardrobe, provided the outfits for that shoot. Okay. And it was a full day of wardrobe and I got to, you know, pick my favorite music and the fan was on. And this was my day of I met with social media people. I was interviewed. I did photos. I did a little commercial where I think they showed before they announced who the girls were going to be.

you can only i know because you see the sliver of red and like a gold rose you see my jaw yeah that was from that day but that was really really fun i enjoyed that and then i did some other shoots playing pickleball and things like that oh so like your package of like what my package if i would have made it yes so did they go to your house no um just i went to a pickleball court and okay and they had a little production team there. Okay. And then, okay, so how many days are you like in the hotel waiting before you go and have the exciting first night? I don't know how much I should talk about that. Okay, fine. But there was a little bit of time before. Okay. So you get to the, you know, how much did you know about him? Because it's interesting because they, like I'm watching it now,

and the girls, when they have one-on-one time with him, they're like, well, when I found out it was you, I was just so excited. And he wasn't on any other previous seasons, right? He wasn't a guy. He wasn't a leftover from Jones season of the Golden Bachelorette. So what did you, do they tell you who it's going to be, and you can kind of at least see what he looks like,

or was it just because the news media had released who he was going to be because he had the controversial podcast episode? No, they shared who he was. He was tall. He was a football player. He was a lawyer. So I like athletic, smart, tall men. He checked those boxes. And I knew there was some controversy. But being a mother of athletes, and especially football, I know how sometimes things get misconstrued, locker room talk, things like that. So I went in wanting to give him the benefit. of the doubt for sure and he has two sons and we see the two sons and he on last night's episode or one of them he reveals like that he was divorced and it was kind of the wife's choice and so he's been single for five years so he's been dating and I mean he is a good looking guy I mean I think but then the girls are all we're all so attractive oh they're one more gorgeous than the other and they we're all just incredible, dynamic, smart, beautiful.

I mean, I didn't know what to walk into. I think I mentioned to you prior, were they going to look like the ladies on the Seas Candy Box or the real golden girls, you know, that we used to watch on TV? And it was the opposite. I mean, they were beautiful and articulate and nice. And you walked in and you're like, whoa, this is a lot of competition. But I think that's what's so different about the golden bachelor and then with Jones season with a bachelor, the guys all bonded so much, is especially with the women, when we get older, you know, we see a lot of women fighting on housewives.

But when you put them in this situation, that's what I think was so fun about the first season, is that the girls really enjoyed getting to know each other. Oh, yeah. It's, I feel, I don't feel I know. I'm part of a golden bachelorette sorority. It's a sisterhood. I, of course, am the baby. Oh, so that was a big deal, okay. So, you know, because of your age and you're shy of 60 or not, you're in your 50s,

people that were like analyzing the women coming on thought that you were going to be a frontrunner because he had said on the podcast, I want women between 45 and 60s. 60. And you literally were the only one under 60. Yes. And so people, and they thought, oh, and she lives in Malibu, which isn't too far from O.C. So they have that going. They have the football connection. Like he's tall. So is he. Well, I don't think they noticed that you were tall. But they just thought, I just saw them some people saying, oh, it's going to be this girl, Maya. And my sports background. Yeah. So on paper, I think we were perfect together. But paper and real life. are different and you can't force chemistry um and i i'm sure he didn't feel it either

but that's okay yeah right not everybody's going to love you and you're not going to love everyone but on paper we were a great match yeah so i think um yeah i would have loved just because i'm your friend i would have loved to see more of your outfits more of your things um they did the last episode they did a roast where they roasted him and on a group date and I think you would have died I would have died in what way being nervous yeah I think you would have been nervous but I think you still would have I even when you're nervous you always seem to like hit it out of the park so I think would have been fine I would have been good at roasting all the girls did great yeah like the what you know I mean I think they almost featured every single one but all them did really well and like you had a good

sense of humor and um like it was fun but it is interesting to like watch how you know i mean i've been watching the bachelor forever so i know how the love can happen like that quickly because you really are dating in a bubble right and you're kind of you know having these great dates nobody is getting distracted with like you know a workman doing something at your house or your kid crying or like, you know, work. So it's like, I do think that's why these romances evolve. But like it is kind of interesting to watch, like, some of these women, one of the women is just, she was like the first to make out with him.

And she, after the cheerleading. I love her. Oh, of the cheerleading. After the cheerleading. So Cindy, the beautiful. With the blue eyes. With the pretty blue eyes. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, she is falling really hard. I think a lot of them are falling hard. And so she's like, I. help like I don't know I'm I realized now I'm not really comfortable like being in a group setting and seeing this other girl Nicole like swim over Nicole's great like making out with him and she's great I was in the limo with Nicole and became fast friends she was the first person I met sitting right

next to me and I think she's really adorable I think everybody just has their own personality that comes out. I think you go on the show and you can't expect the Bachelor not to date anyone but you. I mean, the whole premise of the show is other women. Yeah, right. Well, you know, what you always see on the regular Bachelor with the young people is, you know, one of the girls going over to The Bachelor and saying, I hate to tell you this, but I don't think Susie over there is here for the right reasons. What do you mean? I don't think she's here for you. And I'm like, well will we see this in the golden bachelor well the preview of next week we do and it's because Nicole who has done the makeout in the pool and she got to go on a one-on-one date with him or something

and she is sitting maybe she didn't get the one-on-one I think she yeah I think she got the she won the roast she won the roast she had more time with him so anyway she is sitting around a kitchen table and the cameras catch it and she says oh well I would love to be more of an influencer like going forward and so that's I think what's going to propel some of the woman to be like well she's not here for the right reasons and I'm like anybody going on these shows you're going to be on TV so the best thing that can happen is you fall in love with this guy and you get married till you die right and then then everything short of that is I have a great time and I make some friends

And then there's another part of like, well, now I'm on like a major, major national show. Maybe it could lead to something else. Maybe it's going to lead to guys DMing me. Maybe it's going to lead to another TV opportunity or whatever. So I'm like, I think she was just honest about it. Yeah, like why not? Right. Like everyone that has an Instagram account could be an influencer.

Putting yourself out there. Yeah. I mean, to get out there and you have, I mean, you do this for a livelihood. but for normal average everyday people to go out of your comfort zone and put yourself out there it's a big deal and and I think whatever you choose to have it be beneficial for you like if that's what someone wants to do good for them yeah oh I was just going to show you on the golden bachelor like page they did make you like the cover that's cute Even though, I told you, I had a great time with the ABC promo people.

They loved me. I loved them. Yeah, okay. Just didn't love Mel. Okay, so these two girls, the two women from the original Bachelor, this girl, season one, this girl. I don't know where the other girl is. But anyway, they come and make a surprise slumber party while the other person's on their one-on-one date. And they basically give their advice.

And it was kind of funny because it's like, go for. it show them like that you like him touch him kiss him so then the minute he walks in for the for the rose ceremony each girl is like oh now now and then the one girl that owns the winery oh yeah robin yeah she was tall too so she she goes I guess I'm just supposed to like grope you and talk to you like touch you she's like but I'm not really that cover like I do think it's really fun to watch like the honesty of it all between all of them the dynamic of everybody and so then you know we had now it's down to like maybe i think now it's down to like 12 people 12 or 13 yeah no there was 17 and four left so now we're down to 13 but um what is the best

thing about dating now versus when we were um be bopping around manhattan beach at 25 in this golden era yeah well there's a you know it's after being on the show is different than before the show too because I am getting DMs from a lot of people not that I'm dating people that are DMing me but it's that's exciting yeah so wait are there any good ones well there's a lot there's some very creepy ones and there's some blue check mark people and um yeah it's been interesting okay so that's different um you're when you date at this age you're more evolved you're not going to fall for the same games maybe you did when you were younger that was one thing that i thought was the reason i was going to go on the show too i mean obviously you hope there's chemistry and a

connection and and you're going to connect with the with the bachelor but i really believed that part of my purpose of going on the show was to show women our age that there is life and there is fun and there is dating and there's a whole world out there that sometimes you forget about and you think you know I'm older now I'm not 20 or 30 I'm how am I going to meet people or people going to want to date me and all of those fears are completely untrue and I really discovered that I mean there's a lot of tall older men there's a lot of kind single men there's um it's fun I'm having a lot of fun of fun yeah i think it's um and i also think the thing that people need to remember too whether you're married or not is that the female friendship and i think sometimes women do lose that

be either their work didn't provide it they didn't live in a neighborhood or a community for it they um you know and maybe it was all school related right and now those kids are grown in the other high school and it's like that's another thing i think that like the show could show you but also anything is like join that pickleball thing that majean that book club like all those things i did all those things your church whatever like and then i mean i know there's so much um i spoke to one travel agent that said like i have so many um travel opportunities for women like in their 50s married and not like doesn't right where the crotchety husband is just like go i don't care like you want to go look at every museum in Italy.

Crotchety husband doesn't want to. It's just about... It's fine. Like, to do what you want to do. Do what you want to do and being brave. I mean, you know me. I left a 30-year marriage. I was living in the Bay Area and I relocated to Malibu.

And I, all those thoughts went through my head. I'm not going to back to school night. I'm not going to the football games. I'm not going to practices. I'm not going to, you know, work in the class. How am at this age am I going to me? people. And I did it and immediately everything opened up. I did do the pickleball camp. I met three or four friends. I was invited to a book club. I started a mahjong group. I go to Pilates.

I feel such a sense of community. And I want women over 50 to know that all of this is possible. And if you are in a situation where you're unhappy and you're afraid to leave because you think what is my life going to be if I leave? Your life could be a lot better. It really can. And you just have to know that and believe that. And know, you know, a bird wakes up in the morning. They don't know they're going to find food. They find it. They survive. They live. And humans can do that too. Yeah. So that's a big thing that I would like to share with women our age is that if you're unhappy if you're afraid like get over that and it's time to live life and you can have a great life at the other end now um okay so i wonder who did anybody did you ever think if you did go a long

way would you want to ever be the bachelorette sure the golden bachelorette why not kathy griffin said she'd like to be it oh i think she'd be a good one it would be interesting if they did like a celebrity person. I think they should do a celebrity version. Like that would be funny. A single celebrity. Yeah, that would just be kind of funny. Like they could do real just like they used to do with the apprentice. Like they could do real ones and then they could also do celebrity ones. I think the show has a way of, I mean, I remember. Kind of putting you on the map. A few people said to me like being on the show sometimes is a good luck charm and people find love just from being on the show. Yeah. So let's hope that's possible for this.

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