Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Carlos King on RHOC Lies and the Future of Bravo

Episode Date: September 2, 2025

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He's one of your favorites, Carlos King, king of all things, reality, housewife, God-loving, fabulous, positive force in this. crazy world, writer, producer, personality podcaster, host, reunion host. You have many of your own shows that you produce in this field. Welcome back. How are you? I love being with you whenever I'm on the West Culls, I text my girl.

I know. Look, just in case you need somebody, I'm in town because that's our thing, but I'm always happy to see your beautiful face. You look good. Thank you. So I've been just trying to drink alcohol but then have water as well. Okay. I'm not one of those people that are like, you know what?

I gave up alcohol. No, it's just good fun summer of, you know, a lot of just hanging out with the fam and friends and pickleball and doing all the things. Everyone loves pickleball, honey. I'm telling you. Is it good? It really is. Okay. Now, there was times I was ready to give up.

And I'm so glad I didn't. And the reason it is popular is that a lot of people at not very athletic can actually play it and get better. And I feel like tennis and things like that are real challenging. But you can actually like keep a rally going because you always have a partner. And if you just stick with it and learn the rules and don't give up, it can be something. And you do sweat. Like you do get cardio. You do sweat.

I don't have felt losing weight. But you definitely get your heart rate up. Okay, good. And there you go. But let's talk about some, the best, I said, let's do a show about the worst of the best moments of housewives in the past year. And you did all your homework. And I just want to dive into it. Let's do it.

Obviously, it's your strong opinions about things. So I want to focus on you. Yes. I mean, we have the whole real housewives of Orange County of it all. Love this show. And Katie, and how do you feel in general? about the fact that in this day and age where so many people do what we do

and to the level of someone being an anonymous meme account to a big podcaster and the talent is reaching out, talking, sharing stuff, hoping that this stuff gets out and then how it really truly affects the entire season because it's happening

while they're filming. Yeah. What do you think of all of that? I don't like it. I don't like it with the intention is to feed somebody information for the sole purpose of embarrassment of storyline, that's when things get a little dark for me and I absolutely do not like it. Now, if somebody comes on our podcast and they say something off color that pisses someone off that's different for me. Yeah, if you, yeah, I'm okay with them saying that too and they're like, well, when you said

that I'll watch what happens live or when this happened at BravoCon, because again, it's like it's yeah that should happen they are they are asking those questions and he's asking those snarky questions yeah to put you on the spot and to get the the the snarky fun not you know you have a horrible marriage you did a nefarious or illegal thing like that is where i'm like you know one thing a season, one Brooks, Brooks cancer thing, that was, that was the classic Juicy, and it evolved on screen. Yeah. It didn't involve the backstory of a blogger or a podcast or whatever saying, like, I know

that he doesn't have cancer. It literally was one of the cast members doing the investigation and then everyone else. That was, that was classic. That's the good old days, right? You didn't have a podcast that you had Megan King Edmonds Biden. You know twice removed. So it was something amazing that you had a cat. Never forget.

Never forget that she was married to our president's nephew. Yes. And they attended. Yes. She's iconic. So we had her. We didn't need Kiki Monique. We didn't need the bloggers.

And it takes you away for me, Heather. It takes me out of the. reality because I'm sort of like I don't need to know this information in this detail and look when it comes to Katie I have to admit I think she's a liar liar Katie on fire

and as much as I appreciate the great season that OC is and I'll give Katie some of that credit I think Katie fell into the tropes of let me befriend people I'm a new housewife

I don't know how this shit works and she did in a way, Heather, that doesn't make me support what she's doing. But again, the fans like her, and I expect that. There's a fine line between doing too much research and none at all. You know what I mean? Like, according to Erica Jane, who I believe, she really, I mean, at least when she came on my show, she goes, I did not watch these shows. She goes, I was like a law and order person, which made me.

cents, son's a cop, husband with Tom Gerardy. Yes. And then when the offer came, she was like, well, I was ready to pivot because this thing was not really taking off. The Erica James singing and being, paying probably you know, we know now,

spending $30,000 to perform at a white party in Palm Springs herself. Yeah. So it's like she was ready to pivot. It was like, okay, this sounds good. And we got a very cool, what is going on, authentic exchange. with her and then I think there's the level of okay I watched it all and then there's the level of

and let me also infiltrate all these people that could also push narratives out there and rumors and then those people are so and I get it you know everyone's trying to make a bucket it so I get it you have this juicy thing dropped in your lap you're not going to be like well morally I don't know that oh this is what Andy Cohen wants I mean they're not going to do that you know yeah no but that's the thing and I think when it comes to Katie but let me know what you think I can't I'm struggling

trying to find a redeeming quality about her I think in my opinion based on what I saw based on the episodes I want to be very clear I believe she's a liar and I don't believe anything that comes out of her mouth and I think she was very lonely

and she had nobody and she unfortunately fell into the traps of believing that these bloggers were her friends. Totally. I think you're right. I think she played the game wrong. And I, it's unfortunate because, you know, there were moments where she was kind of funny and the family dynamic was interesting.

Whatever that, whatever the true backstory was, I thought we would find that out. And I thought that would gain her some sympathy. because I think there's something bigger there, you know, when you don't, or when you forego custody of your kids. And I thought, I was like, you know, that's something we'd like to know. Again, Erica Jane didn't have custody, daily custody, you know, with her son. And no one brought that up. No one, no one was like, well, why is that? I think she always had a great relationship with the ex-husband. Yes. And I think with all the money in the world, it was like, well, you can fly and see your son anytime you want,

Erica, but I'm not, you're not going to be going to be at my beck and call. And those are the things I thought her book would say. And those are the things I thought when I interviewed her, oh, this will be really interesting to see this come out next season. And I hope they don't attack her for that because there was always so much more to that story. And if the dad is living across the country without his kid, no one thinks anything of it. But I'm always sort of like, wow. And then when they went after her for that in the reunion, Emily and Heather, why didn't she have custody of her kids? I thought that was like a real moment

that I was like, yeah, let's get into that. I care more about that because to me it's more fascinating for, like you said, a mother not to have full custody. Like I'm more intrigued with the decision making behind that versus you DMing these bloggers trying to get information out of that and get information out there.

I find it gross if I'm being complete. I think is, I don't like when any reality star does something so gross. And that is befriam bloggers for the sole purpose of putting information out there to embarrass a cast member. And as someone who has, you know, made her living on a show called Juicy Scoop, I don't make up stories or lie or exaggerate. But I know the feeling of going to meet somebody and being like, I have a little gift for you. Like, this is the scoop. Like, oh my God, you're going to die. Like, when something

happens and you have that one friend, you're like, call me back right now, you're going to die. And I think she has that. But then I also think she exaggerates. And I also think she pulled things out of the air. Yeah. Or it was so like one, you know, one thing she read somewhere else. Then she's like, oh, no, I talk to the person who saw it with her own eyes. You know what I mean? Like, I think it was a lot of that. And then once there was more than one of those, there were several. I mean, it makes Monica of Salt Lake City look like she was a nun. Like she was like, at least I was the one doing it.

And I didn't get to it. Yeah, I was the one behind the Vita Danty's thing. I was the one not, you know, I mean, still it was super deceptive and it was still juicy. But it's like, I feel like this is not as. aha, not as juicy. No. And worse. Yeah. I agree. I agree. I agree. It's September, the season of fresh starts, cooling temps, and getting back into routines.

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back together? Where are we now? What do you think? It's real. It's real. You have two friends whose husbands were great friends, and their friendship came to a demise, and Doree, in my opinion, who started off her first two seasons, very strong, right? Extremely opinionated. Had the best sort of mentor, like Lisa Vanderpump, to say, I'm going to teach you how to do it. And yes, go in there

and speak your mind and re-delivered. She then got attacked by social media because she came off too strong and then she became a recluse and she was so boring and I never understood... That's such an interesting observation and I think maybe I've

I think maybe you've told me that or I've seen you say it before but it's something that I didn't really notice like the trajectory and you're right. Yeah. Like at first it was like oh my God like who is this girl with this English husband and she has this English accent but she's kind of fun and she's got the boy George thing.

And then it was all just glamming photos for three years. That was it. And expensive clothes. There was nothing more to it. You're right. Yes. I'm like, this isn't fashion police with Joan Rivers.

I don't care to see your closet. I don't care to see the labels. You and I like these shows for real story. Yeah. So when we finally got the real conversation between her and Kyle about the demise of their friendship, how she told Kyle, I'm done protecting you.

I'm going to state how I feel. Doreet is smoking a cigarette. Doreet is telling us and everybody with an airshot, the waiter, the valet guy, that P.K. is an alcoholic. It was sort of like the resurrection of like the old Doreet. And I loved it. And also we realized that, you know, that was a real moment because as someone who lives a similar life to these women,

been married a long time, no women who get divorced, get back to the, husband, keep the secret, reveal too much to a friend, and then they stay with the husband, so then they dump the friend because they're honestly embarrassed, you know, and it's a really hard thing to manage. But the fact that she was always like, oh, yes, my love, and we're going to have a birthday for P.K., and the whole time they fucking hated each other. Yeah.

They were like, their marriage probably sucked the last six years. Of course it did because P.K. did not get a return on his investment. He invested in Doreet. He's the one who told her when they were on a trip in Paris, I believe, accept the phone call from the casting person. You're going to do the interview. We are going to do this show. We're going to befriend Lisa Vanda Pump and her husband.

And we're going to make this work because P.K. is a businessman. And when Doreet, in my opinion, lost the plot and did not. really utilize the position that she had. The moment she fell out with Lisa Vanderpump. And Lisa Vanderpub drove her way with Kyle and Dorit mouth's open. P.K., in my opinion, that was the day he did not like his wife anymore because we all understand business. Yeah, but it was all about the dog. But think about it.

P.K. is a businessman. It's all about relationships. Right. This woman got us on the show. This woman is one of the richest in Beverly Hills. Lisa Vanderpump. Lisa Vanderpump. We're going to ruin the relationship with this person over a dog?

The dog thing is, I've always said, I cannot wait for AI to figure out a way that dogs can tell us what they saw. Because there was a dog who knew what really happened with them. O.J. and Nicole. Oh, God. There's been so many dogs that have the scoop that were the only eyewitness. The dog Lucy Goosey, Apple Juicy.

Yes. Supposedly she got the dog to read. The dog bit someone in their house. She gave it to a friend without telling Lisa Vanderpump. The dog was whatever to that person, we don't know. And then the dog, the dog went to a

shelter that allegedly was, I've heard it wasn't a kill shelter. I heard it was a kill shelter. Who knows? They see that it has a chip or whatever and they call Lisa Vaynerpump's place and the dog. And then it was this whole weird thing where it was, I mean, I remember Teddy's like, I want to do your show. I need to tell you about this gate, this puppy gate thing. And as I sat across from her and she explained it to me, I have to say it. I still don't understand. I still don't understand. It was something to the effect of, she was basically saying, which a lot of people have accused Lisa of in the past,

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you know, like differently. except to just say, yeah, we gave the dot, which is what it was. We gave it to a friend, and I'm sorry that the friend didn't check with me when they too had to rehome the dog. Like, that's all you had. And then Lisa's whole thing was like,

that I sell stories to write her online. Are you kidding me? And her whole thing was like, why I don't want, and this always made sense to me, why would I want a story that somehow dogs that are adopted out of my care don't have a great life. So she's like, I didn't want this story out.

Well, how am I benefiting from this story? And then the other story was, no, you want the story out because you want this to be the launching pad. You want Lucy Juicy Goosey to be the Sheena Shea. You want Lucy Apple Goosey, juicy, whatever, to be the Sheena Shea for the Vanderpump dogs, which did one season and died. So it was all of that, which then also leads

to housewife jealousy where it's so many fights are about I got the call to go to Mohegan's son and they said who do you want to be with you we thought we would get Susie whatever

and then that person says don't get Susie ask Kelly and then Susie finds out that you fucked her out of 10 grand Mohican son and they are no longer friends and they're fighting, but we never know. We don't know. What is it? And I'm not saying, I want to know and I don't want to know, but a lot of it is

opportunities that came from Housewives from the Jill and the Bethany talk show days to today. Like, well, why, why are you so mad that, you know, Lisa Vanderpump is far away. Still, the most successful that took this. She did. But she already, but the reason she's so successful is she already had. something to market. Yes. She didn't come into the show being broke. I'm trying to sell a candle. No. Three weeks or five. Or seven. She was not trying to sell candles or, you know, perfume or whatever. She already had something and she

really utilized it to the umth degree. She didn't just say, come to my restaurant. She opened other restaurants. Now she's in Vegas. She's on a whole other network. Smart. She's, in my opinion, Lisa Vandenpump is the smartest housewife to do it in the sense of leveraging the opportunity. Absolutely. I don't know too many housewives that has the bragging rights of having two successful shows on two different networks. Bethany had a lot of shows, but they were successful.

I mean, she can brag all she wants. Bethany, Frankil, is the Donald Trump of the housewife. In the best way. In the most tooting your own horse. In the tuting your own horse. In the tooting your own hornway, let's just be honest. She dikes to, I'm the best, I'm the greatest, I'm the one that started this, I'm the, I'm the, I'm the, I'm the, I'm saying whether you're a fan of both of them or none of them, there is a strong similarity as far as bragging about what you've done. Yes.

And not to say they're one of them, don't have rights to brag, you can brag, but you're a bragger. You're a bragger. For sure. And, but you're, you know, so entertaining, right? Yes. But, yeah. So, right. Well, you're right.

Yeah, her shows actually are actually successful. How do you feel about, you know, just shoving it in their faces? Oh, the shift has changed. Out with the old and in with the new. Polisher's silverware, darling. We're coming back. How do you think? What's your prediction of how the world will get into the new Vanderpump cast?

I will say this. I will say this. Vanderpump rules was lightning in a bottle. That cast is similar to the Jersey short cast. You know what I mean? Like this group of misfits. But real relationships. Real relationships.

It was iconic. I'm curious to see if history can't repeat itself. But when you do have something that is lightning in a bottle, you sometimes can't strike magic twice. And I think that's going to be everyone's concern about it. Like, are you able to really find a real organic group of friends and have that same level of drama, relationships? They're like fucking each other.

They're cheating on each other. Like, I don't know if that exists anymore. Also, well, how do you feel? Now, I really didn't watch the next gen. Me neither. But it seemed to have been pretty well received. Yeah. And there's talk that they'll be the LA version.

Yeah. I think that's pretty much a done deal. And, you know, I think like, hey, you know, it's the family business. You know, these kids grew up around it. They're already fucked up by it. So you might as well make money at it. Like, it's not like the kid that's, you know, in the middle of Minnesota and their whole life is being filmed on YouTube and they're not getting a dollar and they don't know

what to say to their parents and they have no advocacy. Now these kids are grown. What happened happened and they might as well make something out of it. And to them, their whole life has been out there. So it's not like, I have no privacy. You know, they know how to put the blinders on. They are on social media. How do you feel about that whole franchise?

Listen, I think it was smart to do it. And I think it was smart that I think Andy said it's on his show that the show got greenlit officially when the housewife's kids joined. Because, again, I'm so shocked that someone even started a show and they weren't the anchors. I know. I know. Yeah. But it was very smart to add the mom because it gave the Bravo audience.

Like, oh, I know these people. I grew up with them. So let me see how they are able to handle being an adult in these situations. Like to see Kim Zosigat Candy, Teresa Judiase, Meredith, their children in their 20s, navigate New York City. Like, it was smart to do that. So to see it in L.A. version, I think, would be even more genius. but that's the world we live in. You want to be able to see the spin-offs of people we love.

How do you feel about, you know, the Kyle and Morgan of it all? I, okay, Kyle is my favorite housewife, you know that. I love her the most. I love her, too. I feel like she has given us everything. And whether you feel she wasn't honest enough about the Kyle or not, I don't care. I've talked about it at nauseam.

I found it fascinating. I still don't know the truth. Yeah. I still wonder and think it's intriguing and cool and very, very female that, like, you may not be a lesbian forever, and you might have just been, or I always think that I always think that she probably dabbled in some fun with girls with, with, Maricio. Oh. I think she is sexual. And I think that's why she accepted that there was always maybe some stuff going on the side. but he always came home to her

and there was nothing interesting tag I never thought about that yeah and I know I think she knew her way around a vagina I don't think this was her first time

I don't think you just all of a sudden like but maybe you can and I think she did pursue her and I do think they had something going on and I think I think

you know Morgan is talented I follow her and I think like her you do yeah it's a lot of workout she's getting real buff it's more workout than singing. It's kind of interesting.

And they don't really hang out or whatever that we see on social media. They might. It might be, we're not going to post. We're not going to go to things. I think that's what it is. I think, look. Or they're just friends now.

No, I think they're together. Well, you still think they hook up? Oh, for sure. Okay. Listen, I know tons of women in my life who identified as straight. Yeah. And they stumbled upon a woman.

Yeah. And then they were like, Carlos, I like her. Hunting Wives. Hello. Hunting Wives. The best scripted show on Netflix right now. Yeah. Okay, books up with that later.

Okay, I'm obsessed with that show. Okay, fine. Look. So I never took your take on until today. So I'm going to, like, you know, rest on that for a second. I always believe that Kyle met Morgan and she liked Morgan. And there's something about Morgan that she liked. And when she got Morgan,

working on the show, I strongly believe this is, I will like bet the farm on this. I think Kyle was going to come out. But I think Kyle got nervous. I think

once it was leaked on July 4th, 2000, I'll never forget this day. Where were you? Where were you that day? I was in my back, y'all. My family came from Michigan. I had a swimming trunks, and my phone was blowing up, and they said, get your podcast because People magazine just revealed that Kyle is with a woman

and that her and Marizio have filed for divorce. They have yet to file. I mean, I filed. They were separated. I'm sorry. Thank you for the correction. They were separated. So I believe that was them testing the waters.

And I believe that they had a change of heart. once the feedback was more than they could handle. And once Morgan was featured on the show, I do believe that Morgan was like, wait a second, this show is bigger than I could ever imagine. And that was just too much limelight for her. I don't think she realized she was dating, and don't read me for this,

that she was dating the Britney Spears of Bravo. Kyle is huge. Yes. You know, like Kyle is a big, big name. Yeah. And I don't think Morgan realized how big Kyle Richards was. And how that would affect her life. Yeah. And that's why the next season, Kyle told everybody, like, I can't bring her name up because Morgan elected not to be mentioned because she couldn't handle the pressures.

I also think just like Matt Ripe, the comedian, said, I don't need all these girlfriends. I really like when dudes think I'm funny. I think she was like, I don't need all these housewives. I'm a true country singer. Tattooed, gay, like, country. This is not really the, I don't really need the Tom Sandoval, you know, and the, and the, and the, and the. Extra's audience. Yes. Like, it's cool that I've jumped to another level, but I really don't want to, like, be known as that. No.

As they're, like, token, tattooed lesbian country singer. But all of these middle-aged women are lessing after her. Yeah. So I think that's kind of where she was at where she was like, don't talk about me anymore, Kyle. And Kyle was like, okay. I also think Kyle really loves being a wife and a homemaker. I really do.

I agree. But with Morgan, Morgan's on the. the road all the time. Gay, straight, man, woman. I think she wants, I think that's why she's also not saying I'm gay, but also not completely dispelling that there was a romantic relationship. Because I think she still is like, I can see myself being with a man. Yeah. Like Kathy and Rick Hilton, like I was with Mauricio, into my 70s and 80s, making dinner. And I remember when she came on the show, she said, my mom always said, make sure. that when your husband comes home,

that the place, the house is the best place he was all day. Light the candles. Even if you're got takeout, you know, make some garlic in a like fake a meal. Like start making some garlic and butter in a pan and just like reheat the

you know, the Italian food you got taking it. Make him feel. And she's like and that's what I do. I love that. And so I. Happy, that's good advice. So I was like, wow. Like, you know, and I So I think, you know, and I do think she stayed in this probably longer or whatever because of the audience and putting them on a relationship pedestal for so long until it just was, she got sober, she just wasn't able to play along. But I do think that she wants that life.

She wants Kathy, Rick, all the grandkids coming over. Yeah. And knowing where you're at, not going out. She's not a going out person anymore. She's in a bit by 10. So I, my prediction is she will end up in a relationship, long lasting, married or not, but longer lasting with a guy. I 100% agree. And that's the reason why I told my audience on my podcast that the reason why Kyle isn't going to publicly say she's gay is because she really just likes Morgan.

and she doesn't want to be known as a woman who dates other women. This is my opinion. I do not see Kyle Richards ever dating another woman outside of Morgan. I don't see that. Me neither. I do not see it.

I don't see it either. I see at the end of the day, I agree with you. I do see Kyle living happily ever after with a man because I think she's so traditional. Yeah. And I think there's just something about that dynamic that will please her for the rest of her.

I mean, I think she had a midlife crisis, and I think for women, that can be having moments, like, you know, years of bisexuality and getting back and same, and maybe for guys too, I don't know. I mean, but I think it's like a midlife crisis. I think it's like I what was, you know, and luckily for her, you know, she can't get pregnant. She can't get pregnant and then be stuck, you know, sweating at Orlando, Florida at 60 years old, like a lot of men that have, you know, midlife crises end up with a young girl. And then, like, how am I starting in a whole other family at like 65? So, yeah, I think that's what it is. I agree with you. And what I'll say is this. I think the reason why you, I, and the general public have struggled with the Kyle storyline is because I think if she would have said everything, Heather just said,

a lot of middle-aged women could relate to it. Yeah. And I think that's why we are struggling with, like, just own it. Right. But it is, you know, it is hard when you have the kids and all. all that. And it's just hard. And she has. She's given us so much on her life. So it's like, yes. And, you know, but it is an interesting topic. Okay, you also said,

Giselle at the reunion. Tell me why Giselle at Reunion of Real House was at Potomac. What about it? I have gotten so much shit when I made the top 10 greatest housewives of all time back in 2022. And Giselle made the top 10 list. And I call her Giselle Kobe Bryant. And they're like, are you on drugs? Because why are you giving her that much?

I've always said, in my opinion, I think Giselle is the face of Potomac. I think Giselle knows how to move story forward. I think she knows how to poke through the holes in the storylines. I think she knows how to activate the cast to give us some good moments. And this reunion, this past reunion, she delivered. She never looked better. She was funny.

and she was able to call out Stacey, Mia. I mean, she's the reason Mia walked off of the show into her SUV and went to Neverland. So I appreciate the gift that is Giselle Bryant and to me she had the best moment at this past Potomac reunion. I mean, I agree. I don't think she has, you know,

I think she's also smart enough to know that anybody she dates, it's not going to be on camera. Yeah. And also she might just be like, I don't really care if I ever dated anyone again. You know what I mean? I mean, women of a certain age, everyone thinks, oh, don't you want to date? No, it's like pretty slim pickings out there.

And she did the Love Hotel. And she was just, she played along and she was entertaining as hell in that. But no. And I think that other guy, remember she had that one guy. I think it was such a fake storyline like two seasons ago. They're like Summer House kid or something. Yeah, the Summer House kid. Yeah.

That felt really. And I so I think when they've called her out. about her fake boyfriends and stuff, I think that's true. But I get it. Like, you're on a show and you being, you know, a huge reality show producer

recognizing that there's a way to be an incredible employee without being life-changing, behind the scenes, nasty, deceptive, trying to ruin your life. Like, I truly do believe she cares about everybody on that cast,

Karen and all those people. Maybe Mia, Mia's just kind of because she came in later and... Yeah, it's different. I don't know that she really connected, but like with the OGs, obviously with Robin and everything. For sure, Ashley, like... Yeah.

And I do think she loves Karen, and I do think Jazeel deliver it wonderfully. I agree with you. I think you will never see a real relationship on that show with Jazeel. I think she really likes Sherman. Do you remember Sherman? Yes, yeah.

Like the second or third season of the show. And he publicly said that, again, talk about Morgan. he said he did not realize how big this housewife shit is and people were like digging dirt on him like trying to check into his past and it was too much for him and he left the relationship.

And I think that hurt Giselle and I think she realized in that moment I could never bring on someone I truly like than love on this show anymore because listen the fans do too much they do too much uncovering and it's hard. Yes.

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And then also, Stacey. Great addition, great newbie. Do you know what the story is with them? Are they all coming back? Are they currently filming? What are we doing with the Tomic? They just wrap filming from my understandings. Stacey is back.

They've posted pictures. Is the only person not back Mia? Yes. Any new people? They haven't announced any new people yet. But, you know, photos from Tris has been happening. But no, I thought Stacy had a great first season. Yeah. The T.J. thing was weird. I thought it was weird, but fucking hilarious, too. Yeah. Like, it was a fun thing to watch. Yes, I do believe

she said, listen, we're friends. We've done this thing on QVC, I mean, let's just play along. I agree with you. There is no way. 1,000%. And then even him being like, I was supposed to be paid and all that stuff, and I get it. Like, if you're going to ask someone to fly and do all this stuff, and he's a television personality, and I don't blame her for doing enough research going, I don't want to look weird and percent that I can lonely. And like, why not benefit my friend who is gay or straight? I don't know what T.J. is. But struggling actor and give him something. But you

You cannot, as you would know, I'm being a producer, you cannot continue the fakery for more than what one scene. No, people can spot it. Like, speed date that the producer brought somebody out from their casting Rolodex from 10 years ago. And so many times that's so funny when someone's like, wait, I saw that person on like, I saw that person on this reality show in 2005 and you're like, yeah. Yeah.

And that person was not interested in Shannon Madore. At all. At all. At all. At all. Like, when we found out that TJ was an actor on smart guy. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like with Taj Mori. Like, what are we doing here? So I think Stacey did everything you said she did. I will say, though, she still was a wonderful addition to the show. Totally. And just even like her look and even her being such like white black Barbie. Yes. Like it was fun for us to like watch. And it was just like how she'd be like, Oh, like so Miss America. I love her. So, yeah.

And what do we think of, uh, Boz? What's going to happen with her? I think Bose had a wonderful, that's okay. I think Bose had a magnificent, magnificent debut season. I love the fact that she came in being like, I'm just here to get to know all of you girls. And I'll make on my mind what I think about you bitches after the fact. I think she came in not, um, being. so thirsty. I think she came in the right way to come in, which is like strong and had a

presence. And I really, really, really appreciate the fact that she gave Doree a chance. I think her and Doree are a great duo together. I believe their friendship. I was the first one to call out the alliance of Garcell and Sutton. And the fans dragged me Heather McDonald for three years, only to find out that they unfollow each other and they're not friends. Well, speaking of that. A juicy scoop? The juicy scoop, I believe to be true, for good reason, is that breakup is not what Sutton wanted.

No. She thought it was a real friendship. She's sad that it's not continuing off camera. she has tried and and my thing to her was just Garcel is a person that makes relationships since she was 20 on set

and this blurred the lines and when it was over it was over and it was over and you know that being an actress for so long for yeah like any job you work at Starbucks with a group of people and then you leave and maybe you keep in touch

for a few months later but, like, you know, you're not or whatever. But then with a TV show and a reality show, I really felt that she, that, you know, Garcel just was like, I'm fucking Garcel.

Like, I don't need this shit. And this was, I did not feel supported. And once she made her decision, you know, but do I think she could come back in two years and they could make up on camera? Sure. Yeah. But it is a weird thing for someone

that isn't from, the TV world and thought that there was something deeper there, but then played it wrong. I mean, when you think about, like, how many times, like, you've been at a dinner party and something weird is going on and you're like, I'm not stepping in. And then, but it's because it's a TV show, it's like, why didn't you step in? You know what I mean? Like, if you're truly being, like, a friend, you'd be like, well, I'm just sitting here. There's cameras here.

And I'm like, I don't know, I guess I should have said more. she did go to Garcel after the taping. I know, but I'm going to tell you. I was kind of like... But I'm going to tell you what Sutton did wrong. Okay. Okay? Yes.

At the end of the day, Sutton in her real life wants to be around the cool girls. You know this living in California. There is something about the Beverly Hills world of wealth. and access and exclusivity that you want to be a part of. Garcel is not a part of that world, right?

The other women are. And what we saw throughout the past two seasons, but especially the last one, was Sutton's desire to be Kyle's bestie. And it was at the expense of her friendship with Garcel. So I'm going to tell you what Sutton did wrong at the reunion. when Garcel left and like I'm out of here

I'm not taking a picture Sutton should have followed her then but instead she stood there was like well bitch I'm getting a photo I'm getting a photo I'll check on you later I think if you're a real friend and I don't know who your female best friend is

but I will assume if there's a podcast summit and it's your best friend right and you see that she's having a moment and Andy Coe was like Heather let's take a photo I think you're saying give me a second

are you okay so I think the fact that she waited too long but think about it Heather Sutton waited so long Garcel was able to walk to her trailer take off that dress put on her Lulu lemon

still film hop in the car and then leave yeah that's at least 20 minutes Right. And also when you think about Garcell's life, you know, being completely cheated on by the husband and calling it out, she doesn't cover for people. And she, when someone fucks her over and shows them who they are now, of course she had to work with that man because they're raising the boys. But that the reaction that she had, which was she found out he was having a secret of her for five years. And she sent an email. out to every single person that remotely knew either one of them in Hollywood and outside of Hollywood spelling it out knowing that by doing that there was no way that she could ever

take him back yeah you know when you find out that someone deceived you like a boyfriend or a husband and you decide to blast them just know you're or you're doing that so that you don't get sucked in and she was like there's no effing way and so like yeah I think that's kind of her personality yeah um okay so one of the um the other things that you wanted to talk about was mary from real house as a Salt Lake City former uh church leader I think it is everybody wants like it's so clear to me that she's such an fun personality she's great TV Yes.

But I am the only one that is constantly bringing up that she ran a really shady church. Did she? No, I don't, no. That's what I'm saying. Nobody talks about it anymore. Were people, wait, but is that, is that true? It's all true. It's why she does not part of it anymore.

It's like doesn't even exist anymore. Because, no, she, her grandmother ran this church. And this is all alleged, but with great facts. The church, you know, had people worshipping and donating, but also that had all these other businesses around it that created a lot of wealth. And then she said, you, my granddaughter, will marry my husband.

So she married the step-grandpa. Right. Leaving out her mom being the heir to this big church. So that's why she doesn't get along with her mom. Then they had the Robert Jr. And they lived a very, very, very wealthy life taking over all the other businesses that sprung from the church. So I'm not saying anything is illegal here. I'm just saying that's what it was.

Then she went to New York for five years and got work done. But then up until, right up until her filming and during the filming, she was still on the pulpit preaching. If you watch the first couple seasons, Meredith. She was preaching, and then people, there was audio that came out of her, you know, not being nice to the people. I mean, I think she pretty much blocked me because I've talked about this before. Because I definitely don't see Mary off anything. But I say, I've never heard this. And it was like, it was her birthday and she's yelling at the congregation, like, you know, you do not give enough and all this other stuff.

I went to the church. In Salt Lake City? I did. And I walked around and I filmed it. I zoomed in and I saw the photo of the old mom inside of the church. It was like absolutely not working. It was like abandoned. And it was just in like kind of just like a normal neighborhood.

And it was a full church. Like it was where, you know. And now it's just, yeah, she's, I don't, I don't think she preaches anymore. She doesn't even really talk about like being spiritual anymore, you know? It's like it's, but she's great TV. And she's a friend of Meredith and whatever. And I do think this whole thing with her son was really powerful. There's arguments saying that they shouldn't have shared it on TV.

But he was an adult and he did. And I thought it was a moment that, you know, is important and very relatable where he shares that he is having addiction issues. Yeah. No, I thought it was great that they were able to share because he is over 18. Yeah. I think below that, I probably would not have wanted to see it. But again, we talk about one.

wanting to see the reality of these people's lives. And again, it's relatable. How many mothers, unfortunately, are going through that? I have nothing but praise for those two for sharing that story. I also feel that essentially, whatever her backstory is, I mean, whether she enjoyed the riches or not, she's not into Robert Sr. She was kind of groomed and set up with him. in my opinion

and so by doing this show I mean I think if she ever really wants to come clean about how I don't have this church anymore it wasn't really what I don't know I want to know more about that and the trajectory of leaving it and doing other things and doing something else but maybe she doesn't maybe she'll just be on the show

and make appearances and do stuff you know. Bopper's not on the show pretty much no and then she's like so like funny and like studie and like her eyes and I mean she is great TV I heard I've some producer told me that they had a whole show ready to go in Salt Lake City

and the network was going to take it and then they they got heard we're going to go with Real House as a Salt Lake City instead because we have a woman who married her step-grandpa And they're like, there's no way with that our little cute millennial 40-year-old families can compete with that. It was just like, no, we're going to go this route.

Hey, smart move. Agree. Yeah, and Salt Lake City to me is up there. It's kind of number two. Yeah, what's number one, Beverly Hills? I think OC's having the best season ever. Okay, cool. I think OC is fantastic.

Salt Lake City is wildly entertaining. Because they all are entertaining on their own. They are all funny. And they come out with great lines, whether they, there was, oh, did you see Todd of, I think of go to Miami.

Todd is married to Alexia. He did a 10-minute video. I watched a little TikTok summary on it. Basically, he's furious. He doesn't. like how he's being portrayed. He says he was a great stepdad to Frankie. He again miscalculated how big this was going to be. Once again. Doesn't like the audience coming after him. Doesn't like that the cast members are saying things that he, you know, rents an apartment, that he's not

successful because he just bought a $26 million shopping center. All this kind of stuff. Did you watch and what did you think of that 10-minute video? I did watch it. I think Todd, listen, I understand that for a husband of a real housewife where you don't get to share your point of view as often because you're not the main person on the show, you're not the main story in terms of getting confessionals.

So I understand his frustrations because, look, everybody in Alexia's life is preaching my saying to her, like, get rid of this asshole, and you deserve better. And that is a tough pill to swallow if we don't know what's going on because Alexia, who I love, is not telling us much of what happened.

She's making it seem like she woke up one day and Todd said, I'm leaving you, which you and I both know it doesn't work out that way. Right. So I understand his frustration. I get it as a logical person. Would I have done a 10-minute video? No.

Right? Yeah. But I think for him, those women I watch the show and I love Miami they're not kind when it comes to describing

Todd Right And because we're not getting the entire story Yeah I would be frustrated too If you're Todd Oh 1,000%

Because Alexia Based on what we're seeing She's not really defending him And then what do you feel about him threatening to sue Bravo I mean that's just silly I mean, there's no grounds.

Do you know what I mean? Yeah, you can't control what someone else says about you. Yeah. And they've all, you know, they all signed those things. They sign the release. And based on what I've seen, I don't think those ladies have said anything disparaging that could ruin his business. No, no one's going to not do work with it. Yeah.

If you're good at your job, you're good at your job. You live in Florida. Yeah. Like, if you're good at your job, you're good. So I understand the frustration, but threatening a lawsuit, I think he took it too far. Yeah. Okay, what is going to happen with Kenya, and we talked a lot about it on the show, where she reveals at an event that her nemesis, who's new to show, did sexual things on camera in which she went to Michaels and printed it out and put it on a board like you're about to do a seventh grade science project and showed it, and then only to find out according to her, it wasn't even her in the first place. I know.

It's crazy. You can't make this shit up. This woman got let go, meaning Kenya. Yeah. Because the photos she showed was explicit in nature and allegedly was Britt. Britt is now saying after the season wrapped, after all the episodes I've aired, that wasn't me. I believe. I'm lost.

Okay, I believe Britt, I think that it was the ultimate gaslighting. I think she knew that in her past, she probably, she did have these out, whether it was an ex-boyfriend or she willingly did webcam work or whatever. So when she heard about it, because remember she wasn't there, they were like, hey, she brought out these photos and all this in front of everybody. She was like so horrified. Then they get rid of Kenya and she continues doing the season. And for whatever reason, probably was done with it, was like, I'm not ever going to go do this show again. And then to discover that it wasn't even her, then I also do think like, oh, my God,

like think about what she's been through. Like, I think not enough people realize like the gas lighting that happens on a housewife thing where everybody accuses you of something. If it turned out that Brooks actually proved he had full-blown cancer, and they put Vicky through that. And then, like, three months later, without a doubt,

it was a pile on thing she would have a reason to be like oh my God I was telling the fucking truth I can't believe you put me through that so it's like I mean I had something like that happened too

or people said oh I stole these $10,000 earrings I lost one of them I thought they were real I paid the girl the money I found out they were worth $42 six weeks later but I really thought I lost an important earring

And I really felt like shit about it. And I really felt like, and it was like on other podcasts and people making videos about it and all this stuff. And then after the fact, everyone's like, that old story, you know, like, and you're like, yeah, but like. I'm out of thousands of dollars. Yeah, like I'm, but also just like, oh my God, I really, I felt shitty. Yeah. Because I believed this. So I kind of found that whole thing interesting.

Again, she's suing for like $20 million. I don't know. I think those lawsuits are very hard. What do you think about Brandy Glanville in her parasite face named Caroline. She named it. Caroline Manzo. Yeah, she named the parasite Caroline Manzo.

Are you serious? And she just came out with another tweet today. What did she say? She said, oh, when my kids were way underage, they were on a Skype with somebody who said, I can't wait for you to turn 18, you're so good looking. And someone said, why were your kids on a,

why are your underage kids on a Skype with an adult man? And then she wrote, he was my boss. Okay. But the audience is like, all right, all right. There's no proof to it. It's Skype. It doesn't even exist anymore. I mean.

Where did it happen to Skype? That's the biggest question we need to know. Netflix, do investigate them. If we're going to really figure out that if COVID came from, I think COVID came from the Zoom. headquarters. That's where COVID came from. Because that was like the day I discovered Zoom. It was like my first, I was like, am I doing Skype? And someone's like, no, you should just do Zoom.

And I'm like, wait, what? And then that was it. Nobody talked about Skype again. You are hilarious. Listen, Brendan Glanville will forever be an iconic addition to a housewife's world, right? What's happening to her face, obviously, I feel, I have empathy for her. Yeah, totally. Like, I hope she gets the best help she deserves, right?

I don't know what it's like to have something that you thought was going to last forever stripped away from you. The reality show career. You know, like, based on the fact that it did appear that Brandy had a second win. Yeah. Based on the success of Ultimate Girls Trip, based on revealing that her and Denise Richards allegedly, had some, you know, an affair, if you will. And to know that you are being accused of something, there's a lawsuit involved, you're not working right now,

I feel bad for her, right? But I think just sort of like, you say like dropping these sort of like nuggets, I just don't know how this is going to help you. Because unless I got it wrong, I'm assuming the parasite, isn't that, I believe she said this, right? It was caused from stress. No, she I think she's insinuating

that it happened when she was in Morocco I think everything she's trying to do is trying to build a case that Bravo should you know be responsible for something but I'm just saying that and yeah yeah yeah

and because the parasite thing I don't understand and so but then I who knows Yeah, no. It's just, it is a sad situation because she was so beautiful and she could be beautiful again, but I mean, I just think her spirit's crushed and, you know. And her confidence and all that stuff. And again, I thought she said. She's still brandy in writing a tweet like that, you know. Yeah. And I just, and the reason I brought up this stress cause is because I just don't want her to do anything else to cause more stress. I think I think her focus should be on getting healed.

I totally agree. Carlos, this was so fun. I'm glad we did this. This was so fun. Thanks for taking the time out to come. And tell everybody about all the shows you have, your podcast and your original content that you are in charge of. Yeah, so my podcast, Reality with the King.

It's on YouTube. Every get your podcast. We have like four episodes a week. We recap a lot of Bravo shows. We have interviews. My show Love and Marriage Huntsville, every Saturday on own. And, yeah, just follow me on all social platforms.

Forms at v. Carlos King underscore. And he's also very inspirational. Thank you, boo. Thank you. So guys, remember it's all happening tomorrow. Juicy Crimes. What you're going to do is you're going to go to the link in the description to Juicy Crimes. You're going to click on that to subscribe.

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