Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Chris Franjola, Charlie Sheen, Emmy’s, Meghan Markle and Thirst Trap

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

Chris Franjola is here! We review The Emmy’s and what flopped and what worked and how Chris would improve it. Then we get into AKA Charlie, Charlie Sheen’s tell all doc on Netflix. Denise Richard’s Ex Aaron has us so frustrated. Meghan Markle could have had it all instead she’s making sourdough bread 5 years too late. We also explore Thirst Trap about William White who got middle aged women to send him money for merely lip syncing poorly. I share when I was scammed and why women should stay single. So funny, Enjoy! Subscribe to my new show Juicy Crimes!: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/juicycrimes⁠⁠⁠⁠ -Go to https://quince.com/juicy for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns -Save 20% Off Honeylove by going to https://honeylove.com/JUICY ! #honeylovepod  -Go to https://RO.CO/JUICYSCOOP to see if you qualify. -Find exactly what you’re booking for at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://Booking.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Booking.YEAH! Book today on the site or in the app! -For a limited time, Boulevard is offering new customers 20% off your first year subscription when you go to https://joinblvd.com ! Stand Up Tickets and info: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://heathermcdonald.net⁠  Subscribe to Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald and get extra juice on Patreon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/JuicyScoopPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch the Juicy Scoop On YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@JuicyScoop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop Juicy Scoop Merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://juicyscoopshop.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Me on Social Media: Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/heathermcdonald ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@HeatherMcDonaldOfficial⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have your favorite, as promised. You would know if you were part of Patreon. Go to Heatherredaulat.net and join. Also on Patreon, also a podcaster, dad, blue-eyed, former model turned funny guy, Chris Franjola. Thank you. You blue-eyed delight in my Facebook group, the Juicy Scoop obsessed Facebook group, very

coveted, place to be. Yeah, they're fun over there. This woman said, I did run into Chris at the airport, and he was the delight. that we all thought. And I just want to say, as a celebrity, I know it's not always convenient to talk to a juicy scooper. I'm so happy that she said that because it couldn't have been a worst time to see me.

It was like right off the plane on like a shuttle to go get my car at like 6 o'clock in the morning. Exhausted. Yeah, it's just exhausted and just, you know, everything that happens on fly. Whatever, I pulled it together and I was nice. No, you were beyond a delight. She said he's everything we wanted him to be.

Now, see, if you weren't that, then there'd be TikToks written about you. I know. They would be looking to cancel you, trying to ruin your life. Because one day you were just like a little short with someone being tired. But thank God you've told yourself, I begged for this life. Right. And now I have it. So be a delight when someone's a fan.

Can I give you another fan story that was a little strange? I don't know if you've ever had to deal with this. Somebody offered me and it was very nice of them to do. I was in Dallas and they had a spa. And they said, would you like to come in for a massage, we'll on us, everything, blah, blah, blah. I said, that would be lovely. So I went this weekend to a massage. And that's a weird one when the person is like a fan, because you're almost naked.

Wait, she was actually doing the massage? Yeah. I thought you when they owned the spot. No, yeah. But it was, so there was a lot of talk of like my, because I fell asleep during it. And then she's like, yeah, and you fell asleep. I was like, all right, I got it. But you just know that she'll be telling no story.

now for the that's like a weird place to be wait did you know when you got offered the massage that the actual person who was the fan was going to be doing like

they were all fans everybody there like they were waiting for me she invited family members to stand behind the counter and it was they were just like staring it was a weird

I know I'm not that big a star but for some people I am you know what I mean was it a six-handed massage did they all get in the room and one person got a calf and the other person got a forearm one person doing it but it was just all i didn't know what to i didn't know how to prepare i don't get completely naked anyway but i certainly i certainly wasn't going to for this no way yeah i don't need them

talking anyway wow it's hard being famous it really is but thank god we were not famous enough because neither of us were at the uh emmys last night no we were not at the emmys not could not be less jealous no i'm not i mean does that the way i mean i'm not jealous at all not jealous at all is what i'm trying to say did you watch it i did you watch it like did you tune in like five o'clock because here we get it i i caught it and then joined in

like i looked up like the monologue which was the sketch it was they opened with a sketch which was i believe a bad idea i think they shouldn't have opened with a sketch i first thought i like the idea i first i I thought it was horrible. And then as it went on, I thought, okay, this is why I think it was kind of, so there's a comedian or a funny content creator. And I apologize, again, once again, I did not, like, write down her name, but she put

on like a gray hair and gray beard and did a very good impression of Nate. And it was her prediction of what the monologue would be. And it was so dead on corny, like with the severance jokes and all that stuff. and I was like, oh my God, what if that literally some of the jokes. And so I kind of thought, you know what, if it's, he probably was like, you said when you got here,

it seemed like he was a little bit, it seemed a little lazy. Can I say that? Yeah, absolutely. Well, I didn't realize. As much as I love names of a comedian. I didn't realize this was a sketch he already did on the show.

Yeah, no, from Saturday Live. Okay, well, I mean, that is a little. It was a very similar. They did a George Washington sketch on Saturday Live. That was like the biggest, I think it was like the number one YouTube of the year or something. So then they kind of took that idea and made it this. And in the parameters of Santa Live, it worked because they were all reading the Q cards and stuff. And when you watch Saturday Live, that almost seems normal.

But they were still doing it on the Emmys and it looked weird. It looked weird that they were like reading the Q cards. Like you could have memorized it for this. Yeah, yeah. So I thought that was just an odd. I don't know. It got off to a weird. start I first I thought that it was so not funny and then as I was watching I was like oh that's

clever a streaming joke okay all right you mean the sketch but I know you're right listen it's a hard it's a really hard job he's a clean comic he's you know coming up so you don't want to like alienate anybody that might hire you so you're not going to pull a y'all pedophiles you're all pedophiles whatever you know like no one wants to hear your political statement right so it's just I don't know but then what did you think of the so then he gets off he does that whole thing then he comes out and he says if you go over your time this money from the boys and girls club is going to go down it was a great idea it was a funny idea that should have left alone after that I feel like it went it was a joke that got beaten to death totally agree what they should have done

is just did that little thing yeah and then at the end highlighted them and said you know what we're going to start you we got to be 350 but if anyone else could donate great i don't know that they need to have the kids like on stage and stuff yeah i yeah that was i thought those might have been kids of celebrities but they were kids of like boys boys and girls club okay yeah yeah and yeah let me tell you what the issue is with the emmys and all these things yes they're in first of all the whole thing was like poorly directed i thought and i don't really know anything about directing but i feel like it was just like everything was clunky everybody had to walk too far to get to the microphone.

There were bits, like the Golden Girls bit, I didn't even get it. Like this country singer singing the Golden Girls team, like it had nothing to do with anything. Like I thought then there would be like, and now we're going to give away an award, I don't know, but it had nothing to do with anything. So I thought that was strange.

Okay, so what did you, what bits do you think did work? I honestly, you know, I mean, he's a friend of mine, but I thought Brad Garrett and Ray Romano were the funniest. ones. I really do. I thought that bit, the banter between the two of them and Brad Garrett saying he thought his career was going to be better after Ray was just so funny. And will I make the in-memorium as a funny idea? Very, very funny, funny dark humor without being too dark. Yeah. Also, um, both looking great. I know. I was like, wait a minute.

That was 20 years ago. So you guys were like in your early 40s then and now you're in your mid-60s. You look great. Um, I don't know what Ray does for his hair. Like, I'm thinking, I always think men that are really, you know, getting up there. What they need to do, and it's going to cost a lot. You're going to have to have a guy come to your house like every two weeks. But you've got to just weave in some of the gray, but still dye it. Don't go completely white. They do it.

At supercuts, they have a system. Oh, they do. I don't, they do. It's like a gradual system. It's genius. I see the ad for it. It's genius because, you know, if you start out your hair too much, then it looks like weird red.

And then if it's totally white, I mean, Peter has totally white, which is fine. But if you're going to be an actor and you want to kind of stay in this look so you still look like yourself, then, you know, so that's the way to go. Okay, let's just talk about, you know, what's this guy's name from it? Pedro Pascal. Pedro Pascal chose to wear all white. Yeah. Genius. A lot of people did.

With his tan face. Yeah. I thought it was great. the only thing I watched that one was hacks I know that was with a oh here's Cindy Swin looking she came out she was bouncing out huh that's exactly what she should be wearing and looking like well you know what she's doing I think we've talked about it before though but now her next like five movies she's ugly and it up and I don't think it's a good career move she's going like I'm gonna play this boxer you know and put on 40 pounds I know no no not yet wait a little

while before you go doing those roles no I think it's right Just do like a couple of like, I'm a surfer. That's the next role. And just bikinis and jumping in the wall. You know what I mean, everybody. Okay. I think she's doing everything right. Oh, yeah?

And then you show up on the red carpet looking young and snatched with your tities out. How did you feel about all the men? Did you notice this? All the men, it's like full like nine buttons down like that. Every guy. Like that guy from Walton Goggins, but he, his shirt was like down to. I don't know. I mean, I guess if you're like worked out.

I don't, I think it's good to do something different, like wear a different color. This girl, Lisa, I don't know who she is. She's a singer. Anyway, loved this dress. So both the women from Hacks won, which I loved. It's actually a show I've watched. So many of them I have not seen. Yeah.

So that made me happy. And I do think they're both great actresses and I love their friendship. And there you go with that. The kid from adolescence was the youngest one to ever win an Emmy. And I have not watched that show because I don't want to. Yeah. The subject matter. The subject matter might be too close to home.

I don't know. I don't know. I'm raising boys. And I just, I don't know. I've avoided it. but I know obviously it's incredible at one, like everything. And I think the guy that, like, wrote it, created it, who he thanked, you know, his wife, I mean, he was, it seems incredible.

So maybe now I will bring myself to watch it. Stephen Colbert making jokes, standing ovation. All right. Yeah, I was going to, you know that was going to be the case. Oh, boohoo. Oh, boohoo. I don't know where these 200 people are going to get a job yet. Hello.

It's show business. Again, we talked about this last time you're here. No one cared about us when they just, like, told us to leave. And the other thing is, with no writer's guilt pay, thank you. He already has another job. He's got another job. He's already moving on in Netflix. He's got, they've already signed them.

Not a talk show, but something else. Yeah. Yeah. So whatever. I mean, he's a nice guy and whatever. I don't know. But like, I just was a little like, oh, boo-hoo. And it's not a joke that if you've already been hired.

Yeah. Like, what's funny about it then? The other thing is, it's just, I mean, I like Stephen Goldberg. I don't really watch the show very often because they just don't watch late night TV. Yeah. I'm just not up. Anyway, but it, it's just a changing landscape of TV. Like, they're all going to be done soon.

It's just, he's just the first one. Right. Soon there's going to be a point where nobody watches just, I don't know, most television, honestly, but especially Jimmy Kimmel and Jimmy Fallon, not anything political, anything like that, just because it's, they could watch, like, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, Let's say Jennifer Aniston. I think more people would rather see her in a two-hour interview on a podcast like this than a seven-minute thing where they're doing the same schick to promote a movie.

You know what I mean? Right. When nobody wants that, it's just like cadence-wise, it's not what people expect anymore. I wonder, you know how you always have to have like that dumb little story that you tell? That's what I'm saying. Like with your dog or whatever. Then I wonder if they ever say, like, I just want to make sure before you do 20 interviews that you save your dumb dog story at the restaurant for Jimmy Kimmel.

Yeah. We don't want it to be a told four times. Right. That's what happens. I mean, I wonder if they do that now. I think they have to. Yeah. Alan Cummings won for traders.

Yeah. Of course he should win. He's like pretty entertaining. And he said, whatever, that was his weird outfit. Then this was all over. So if you have a garra had like an eye infection and at the last minute couldn't go. Oh. And I had to go to the ER.

And I thought, you know what, though? That's the best thing that could happen to you. Because otherwise, I wouldn't have even known to talk about you. I know she's, her job is, she's a judge on America's Got Talent, but like, I don't know, like, definitely not as relevant as when you were on the modern family. So, like, this isn't the worst thing. So kind of smart that you like. I think she was, I think wasn't she nominated for something?

Isn't she playing like a drug lord on a, in a Netflix show? Oh, was she nominated? I wanted her to win. I don't know if she was, but that might have been last. year. I got a lot going on in my head and some things just go away. You know, now that we're saying that, you know, the way people will get on someone, whether they misspeak on a reality show or whatever, because there's a big conference going on Real House of OC, which I'll get into on Wednesday with, on Thursday with Zach Peter. But I was like, the amount of times that I've

listened back to my own podcast. Yeah. And I'll say, oh, we're watching tennis with the Vanessa Williams. No, I meant Venus Williams. Yeah. Okay. And I'm walking and I'm like, oh, I know that's what I meant. Right. And I know that the people that love Juicy Scoop are like, yeah. Or I'll say his dad, Charlie Sheen. I meant to say Martin Sheen. Yeah. Because I'm talking about Charlie Sheen's dad. It doesn't happen a lot.

Right. But it probably happens at least once or twice a week out of the three episodes, including Patreon. Yeah. And now four with Juicy Crimes. Make sure you subscribe and leave a five-star review. Anyway, we don't have 200 people like Stephen Colbert. Yeah. I'm very impressed by anyone who just wants to stumble over everything they say. My old brain.

We don't have noes. I don't have a, like, yeah, the stuff. Okay, so listen, so I couldn't go to sleep last night. Yeah. So I'm like, let me watch because I'm so excited for you to come. So I'm like, let me just watch a little of the Megan Merkel show, which is second season on Netflix and not getting the buzz it was getting. It was already, I think, shot.

and this is second season, and who knows what will happen after this. So she, as you know, she's in a house down the street from her own house, which people get mad about. I'm like, I don't. I think it's a genius thing. I wouldn't want the lights set up in my kitchen all the time. Anyway, she starts to make sourdough bread from scratch. Yeah.

And it takes like several days. And they're like showing it. Is anybody really watching this and going, okay, I'm going to make exactly what she makes? I mean, maybe if you're doing it for content, Like in your real life where you're not filming it for any reason. No. So Chrissy Teigen comes and anyway, I did fall asleep. And I just want to say, Megan Markle should be a lesson to every person in the world to not let the haters get to you.

Wow. Because she let the haters of the English press and the naysayers around England that suddenly decided they didn't like her. to get to her. Okay. And she threw it all away, in my opinion now, to just do what the rest of us losers are doing. Podcasting, having a stupid cooking show. Literally any mom in Texas is doing exactly what you're doing.

Right. Being a mom influencer, making cute things, trying to act funny when you're not. Like, why? You could have stayed in London. Right. Okay. been a princess and done a

and done the same cooking show and done I am going to do the greatest secret recipes from the royal family over centuries and I'm going to attempt to make it as the American princess that you love and then we're going to go and go to other countries and do it and have fun she could have done all of that

while staying the princess Yeah. And really, like, how many people can say you're, I'm a princess? Do you know how many people can say they're a podcaster or they're an influencer or that they do cooking on TV? I can. Or they make sourdough bread on TV. Right. Or that they have a follow my look.

So how is the show? I mean, is it watchable? I mean, what is Chrissy Teigen? Did she bring anything to it? Do you care? No, there was nothing. Like, there was no juicy conversation. you know everything finishes with the flowers like on the food i did see a clip from that episode where

i didn't i think they talk about being suitcase girls on deal or no deal which i didn't realize chrisie tegan was also a suitcase girl i think that's what i got out of it you know talking about i john legend pops in for a second like you drove her like you drove her too set of arma maybe he's waiting outside waiting for sourdough bread to be right and there she's like hi oh hey john much and buy and then and then she's like so i have to so she finally has the bread done yeah and she's like cutting it and i'm just like thinking how i got we used to buy those sourdough rolls so delicious at the israeli bakery in woodland hills for like 699 right and i'm just like what this took you like five days and then and then she's like oh and she's putting like christimian on it

which is like my most tated fruit on this, she's like, let's make a tartan. And she made a Thai iced tea for her or whatever because she's Thai. Oh. Well, I don't know. Like, I don't know what, I worry about her. At the risk of,

actually, she should be fine. At the risk of repeating myself way too much, she does mention on this season of, we love Megan, that she worked at Mirabelle Restaurant on Sunset Boulevard. She loves to mention every job, that she's ever had. They must have told her, like, mention a few more regular people jobs that you had

because the Humphrey Yogart thing was a big deal. So now she's like, yeah, I was a hostess at Mirabelle with, she didn't mention my name, but she should have. I think it would have gotten a little more eyes on the episode. I just wonder if there'll ever be a moment where she's like, wow, I kind of played this wrong. I don't know if she thinks that way because I feel like she's living in it. Someone's going to yell at me and be like, Heather, she was suicidal.

She was so distraught about the noise. But again, you're the princess, okay? You're the princess. You don't have to look at your phone. You could tell your staff, please don't share any negativity with me. I just want to, if someone writes a beautiful letter, you know what? I'd love to have that with my coffee in the morning. Coffee.

Not TM American. And like, I don't know. I'm just so much about, like, God, this shit should not rule your life. Okay. Because it doesn't have to. Right. It does not have to. So it's like, oh.

Yeah. but she also don't you think maybe they're like you know i think we did the right thing or in a gorgeous part of california beautiful weather great house i'm sure they're in monocito it's real nice up there yeah but there might be a there might be like you know we did the right thing i think you could have played it i think you think you could have done both yeah it's like i think you could have been just like a president that goes to their you know ranch all the time like she could have been like i'm american so we're gonna we're gonna spend you know uh two months of the summer every summer in Santa Barbara.

Yeah. All right. That's what we're going to do. That's when I'll do my fun L.A. shit. And then for the rest of the time, I'm going to do my princessy stuff. There's no way she can ever get it back. Yeah. It's over.

But didn't he go back recently? No, I don't know that he's getting back with them. I don't know. Okay, let's talk about other people that have made huge mistakes in their life. Charlie Shee. Let me just fix the Emmys for a second. Oh, yes. Please tell us.

Yes. They do it in the venue's too large. They do it in a venue that's too large, okay? When I take over directing the Emmys next year, you need to break it down to put it in a 400-seat theater, just the celebrities. We don't care about the families and the other people working on the show.

Do that at a different night, okay? Whatever, another type of Emmy that's un-televised. But the televised portion, just the celebrities, the good-looking people, the cute outfits, 400 of them. It's too big for people. The stage is too big. Did you see that poor? So you're saying they can't even have a plus one?

No, a plus one, fine. But I'm saying not the family members way up in the balcony. Okay. It's too big. The stage was too big last night. Everything got lost in the bigness of the stage and everything. And I thought that was a big problem. I've said this before.

Like, I used to be excited to watch this stuff. We used to watch the stuff as a family. We used to know it. We used to, like, be cheering for our people when they want and love. little funny quips that they said. Now I just feel what I've said before, it's just not special because everyone has Instagram, because everyone has a podcast, because there's so many shows, there's too many to even be rooting for.

Menendez brothers didn't win. Right. Dying for sex didn't win. Like everything, White Lotus barely won anything. Yeah. Like, I just felt like everything I liked, like, except for hacks. That was it. Yeah.

And so, all right. Whatever. There you go. Okay. Now let's get to Charlie Sheen. Yeah, I watched it. Two-part Netflix, I think in general, done really well very entertainingly for a two-part doc. Yeah.

Because I've said that Drake is getting very annoyed with how many docs are and how long the docs are. Because I, like with William White, which we'll get to, I said, well, you watch this with me. And I know that if he saw that it was two parts, that he would get mad and leave. and I said, oh, it's just one. I lied. Lied to my son's faith. It's just one. And then he was like, oh, my God.

Like this is so, when is that? And so he's now, he says, now, from now on mom, if it's two parts, you have to bring me in at the top of episode two and just recap episode one. Yeah. Because I cannot take how long these are. And he's like, when is the doc going to come that's all about how there's too many docs? There's a doc just about too many docs and we watch too many dogs.

Well, I'll be honest with you. I kind of agree with Drake. on both things because and I feel like this Charlie Sheen one was where I got to the point where I'm like I feel like we might have jumped the shark with documentaries because I know this is a new this is a new thing like take one celebrity like it worked with um I mean even Harry and Megan had something yeah and Stallone has something and it's like all right I kind of get the idea but this one by the by midway episode too I'm like I think I got it it's such an ego love letter to yourself.

Yeah. And, but I do think it was done well because at least we kind of, we, in him telling a story, we also had a visual aid to it, whether it was his old home movies or actual stuff he had done. So I actually thought there was some real like film, documentary, like work, editing work that was put into making it entertaining. Yeah. And you were talking earlier about Ray Romano and his hair.

I don't know what Charlie Sheen's doing, but. something was up with it, and if it's dyed or fake? Do you think it's fake? I don't know. But then I feel like, it just looks off. I feel like he always had the hair and Martin Sheen has the hair and so do both the brothers. Yeah. So I don't think it's fake.

I don't think it's fake. I just think it's, the color doesn't match the face. Right. That's all. Yeah. It's time that he goes. He needs to go to Ray Romano's guy. Yeah.

Who's doing Ray Romano's hair, go over to Charlie Sheen's house. Right. A lot was covered in this And we start out with his childhood And how he said some There were some interesting things that he said Not only was he a NEPO baby But he was actually a really good actor

That everyone was like Oh my God Charlie Sheen's even more exciting Than Emilio Estevez Because their dad was Martin Sheen Because of his little cameo And Ferris Bueller's day off Was the thing that kind of catapulted him into like Yes and I totally do remember

that leaving your impression on me like oh my god that was such a funny weird part yeah and then i think that with um like what oh he says you know there's that expression if at first you don't succeed keep trying he's like no one says what happens when you succeed right away yeah like you know and being that he had that that privilege and love of doing drugs probably addictive genes if that exists. Some people say it doesn't, but I think it does. And then just also knowing that as a man, can I just say as a woman, if a woman had that trajectory, if this happened to Julia Roberts after Pretty Woman, as well as ever, now just a man, pretty woman, she already did a little thing in Mystic Pizza. Pretty Woman, biggest movie, everyone loves her. She goes off the fucking

deep end and is not showing up on set and doing drugs and everything. Would they give her seven more chances? Fuck, no. Right. But him and Robert Downey Jr., and like men get the chances over and over and over again. Well, Lindsay Lohan's gotten a lot of chances.

No, she really didn't. When she really fell off, it was because they were like, well, we can't get anyone to insure you anymore. Yeah. And she really now is getting these small chances with these cheesy movies. But that's after she had to like go hang out

with like Russian billionaires on yachts. And do things that no one wants to talk about. Didn't you manage like a Greek restaurant for a minute? She had a reality show about her beach club. She was dancing weird. She had to rescue Syrian refugees or whatever off the street. And she had an accent. I don't even know what.

Yeah. No. I'm trying to think of somebody. She had to be gone for a long time. Get a full blown new facelift. Yeah. And finally, you know, get to do something else. But like, so anyway, this.

with this I thought it was really interesting and I want to bring up so it brings up Chuck Lorre because that's when we were really covering it when he had Chuck Laurie when he had two and a half men and it was kind of interesting

because I was like wait what happened when so he got the show as a sober person after Spin City and it was immediately a hit and then because that height of success again And he had Denise, so he did everything going for him. And that's when he started to, like, use pain pills and start using again.

Right. So then she divorces him. And he still is on it. And so then when does it happen where he, then he starts fucking up? But then they still say, wait, I'm confused. So then he marries Brooke. And he's like, I'm mad that they didn't stop the show so that I could be in the NICU with the twins. Yeah.

And they're like, well, we're not going to stop the show because we've already. he sold like three years of ads yeah so keep coming and then his behavior gets bad but they need him so badly that they give him two million an episode right yes was that the order according to and then he's still like fuck you and that's when he started to like speak horribly about chuck and the tiger blood and winning and um and just he's like oh if you couldn't handle my brain like i'm such a genius like i hate people like that like i just go so fast my brain's going so fast you know like you wouldn't be able to handle well he was completely drugged out

at that point yeah that was like a 60 minute interview whatever it was where he was completely off the rails right my opinion of the whole thing and I actually like Charlie Sheen of course you know I've liked Wall Street and I liked platoon and everything you know I

I don't think I really watched two and a half men but I got it right I get the appeal of the guy loved it yeah so not everybody in the world I got the appeal of it I think he comes comes off and he came off in this like a bit of a, I don't know, privileged asshole. Like he, the guy got everything. Got everything.

I mean, and then I felt bad for the poor dad, Martin Sheen, who like literally like had to go pick this guy up from hospitals and shit and was just like, try. Everyone else in the family seemed to be fine. Like the brother, the older brother, Ramon and Emilio, seemed to be fine. So. I wondered why his younger sister, who's 58-year-old actress, that I looked her up because I remember her from like an after. after-school special, but she really hasn't worked since, like, 2003.

She wasn't part of it. The mom, we never hear or see about the mom. Yeah. I think there's something strange there. And then also the, we don't see him, Emilio. Well, Emilio doesn't do anything. He stays out of like the limelight a lot lately. Does he even work anymore or no?

And I don't think it directs a little bit, but I don't think so, not much. And so, you know, I wonder. and then Brooke, this wife number two. She seems to have it together. Oh, my God. She's clearly still using. I know. It's just like, I'm like, this is the interview and this is what you're wearing, like this red t-shirt, Indian style.

Like you can't get any more put together to be on a major Netflix dock. I felt that way about every single, Denise Richards, too. I was like, Jesus Christ, fucking put it together. Well, at least she had like hair and makeup and stuff. Yeah, a little too much. Yeah, but then she's gotten like a little facelift, I think. Yeah, it's better now. Whatever. I think everybody involved in it is a little kooky. Well, I'm glad that you're talking about because I'm going to talk about.

Even Sean Penn came off a little odd to me. Yeah, like really you have to smoke and scrape some Coke off your table in the middle of an interview. He was like doing chores. It's like, I'm sorry, are we getting in your way, Mr. Penn? He was about to paint the door for God's sake. He's moving around. So true. Okay. So now I'm going to talk about something that's going to be a little controversial. Oh, no. Talk about an enabler. The best friend

from Little League, the black guy, Tony. Yeah. I'm sorry, dude. You are an enabler. Well, he said he was. He said something to that effect. And so I looked up, what did he do? What was his job? Because he seemed to be there through all of it.

Which there was a moment when he's losing his mind and his tooth. He didn't have a tooth. And he goes, I just got fired from a Warner Brothers, a wedding. And then, like, you see Tony give him a fist bump, like, oh, man, you got this. That's not a good friend. Right. Like, a good friend should be, like, seriously, Charlie, like, just, you don't want to work with Chuck Lurtymore, fine.

Like, you don't need to bash him. You don't need to, like, stop. Let's get you, you know, whatever. No, he was just always along for the ride, whatever was happening. He was there at bailout. And so then I looked it up, and I'm like, what does he do? done. And Drake's like, oh, he's did some film work. I'm like, what? He's like a show called Anger Management, 29 episodes. I'm like, exactly. It's Charlie Sheen's show.

Yeah. Look, he's lucky to have him. I'm sure he's a good person. But he is the definition of an enabling childhood friend to a big star. At one point, he actually says something of that to the effect. He says, I probably shouldn't have been there like during some of this, but I felt like I needed to be otherwise he'd be dead. So. Right. That's what I'm saying. I mean, it's a very hard position to be right and then also it's your livelihood yeah you're the paid best friend you're the entourage i mean there's a couple of nicholas cage moments where he's just like i'm in the hospital get out of the hospital we got to go to this hawaiian tropic thing and nicholas kate didn't give a shit he was just like come on man we got to go to hawaiian tropic party yeah that was pretty

amazing and then um also that he had he said that he lost his virginity to a professional, you know, sex worker when he was 15. And I'm like, yeah, hello, that should fuck you up. Yeah. That's why teachers screwing their 15-year-old students shouldn't happen. Right. It's weird. Yeah.

It's weird. It made you weird. Right. You know, that's like, that's why you add an insatiable appetite for like sex and prostitutes. Oh, the Heidi Fly stuff was my favorite. Oh, yeah, that was pretty good. I'm obsessed with Heidi Fleiss.

Anyone that knows Heidi Flecks, I would go to Vegas to interview her. Now, I'm sure she's done being interviewed, but I would do whatever it took. I've been so fascinated at her life story. It was so great to hear her point of view. And also why he had to come forward because it was, he had girl, they said, if you have one prostitute for yourself, that's one thing. But if you got three of them to come over. and your friends all partook.

Yeah. Now that's like trafficking. Right. And you're looking at three to five years, which was why he had to turn on Heidi Fleiss. And then Heidi Fleiss was like, fuck, man. You know how she told me 30 years ago

that Heidi Fleas was going to wind up with a lot of parrots in her house. I would have been like, yeah, that seems about right. She's now like an old parrot lady. Which still looks kind of good. No, she, yeah. Still like everyone's, you know, thank God for plastic surgery.

Everybody kind of looks pretty preserved. Actually, the next documentary, I would rather watch her and the parrot. house talking about. Oh, I'm sure she are. I'm sure the people that went to the parent place already have a doc in. I also think that Charlie will announce his podcast within the next month. I'm going to give you even a bolder prediction in that. Okay. Are you ready for this? I am telling you, you watch, they are going to reboot two and a half men with Cryer and Charlie Sheen back. I'm telling you.

They got not maybe not the kid because I know he's a little off his rocker too and he's now 40. So they're going to have to get someone. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I got it. Charlie Sheen come back to do something. It's two and a half men because John Cryer's son left the grandson. The character of the clean cut son has gone off. Yeah. And the two grandpas have custody of now a kid that's like eight.

Like, yeah, right. And it's the same. They're the same characters. Yeah. And they'll put it on Netflix because Leanne is on a. Netflix with Chuck. So Chuck has a deal at Netflix. Chuck Lollary's already over there.

You know what? You're right. I'd rather see that than him do another. And you're going to have to do a podcast. John Cryer's going to have to do it on his terms because he's like, no, if you want me, I'm not going to do that shit. Also, John Pryor looks so much better bald. Oh, 100%.

At 58 than whatever he is than he ever did on that show. I think so he like could have like a studly thing. We're like what happened to him in the past. He got married and got divorced. And now he's loving Tinder because there's just. women coming for him right and left so finally he's getting laid as the guy that never got laid because of the apps right eight episodes in and out you don't have to be you don't have to do 20 seasons yeah just eight episodes everybody watches everyone loves it John cryer gets paid again

I think he's doing fine but he always comes off relatively normal because they I see him on a bunch podcast and stuff and he just constantly has to talk about Charlie sheena two and a half man and he's probably like I'm done with talking about this like right but he still has to handles it well. Yeah, because his own life is normal. Yeah, he's a normal guy. And I think he's been married to his wife for quite a while. And he was like a news reporter.

They've been together a long time. So like, yeah. So then I think, yeah, and then Charlie, you can write whatever backstory you want for Charlie. Does he have like, you know, a couple divorced wives? Does he have, he should have a daughter doing only fans? Yeah. He absolutely should. They showed the other daughter that wasn't part of it, Sammy, she posted.

saying, I didn't know I was the reason he got sober because he talks about how he started drinking again. Yeah. And she needed him to take her to her hair, get her hair done. And so he had like a driver come and she was like, why? And he looked at her face and he was like, I got to stop. I've got to get sober again. So he does bring up the Corey Feldman stuff.

At the end. At the end. And ironically, he and Corey Feldman in fedoras, look alike. I know. Look so much alike. It's kind of weird. Yeah. And Corey, it's interesting because Corey Feldman is doing Dancing with the Stars right now.

And according to an article I saw, he isn't going to the rehearsals. Oh, really? But, you know, he can dance like Michael Jackson, so I'm sure they'll do something with that. I've got to watch that again. And he, for those that you don't know, Corey Feldman put out his own documentary in which himself and several other people that knew Corey Haim, who has since passed said that when Corey Hame told them allegedly, it's a hearsay story that when he was on the set of Lucas, that he was assaulted or groomed or whatever you want to say by Charlie.

And Charlie totally denies it. Raved by Charlie Sheeners with the term they use. And he totally denies it in the dock and says I should have thought about suing. well I don't think you could I mean you're saying it because someone's saying a dead man told me this and I'm just telling you what he told me right it's not it's not Corey Feldman saying

I walked in on the two of them he's just saying he told me as my best friend that that is what led to him being really effed up over the years and then there were these other people that said and then but but his own mother Corey Ham's mother said no that wasn't true

yeah well a lot of people don't tell their mother that they're being molested. It's probably the last person you want to tell. So either he never told her or she doesn't want to believe it or it didn't happen. Overall, you started to get a little tired by the second half. Yeah, I feel like I got it. Do you remember? I feel like it was all just like a drug addict behavior.

And I feel like, you know, eventually it's, even with the Corey Hame stuff, I'm like, yeah, I mean, but they're, Corey Hame had his problems as well. Right. So I feel like whether it was any of it true or not, I don't know. But I feel like it's all just like drug addict behavior of accusations, weird stuff like that. Right. And what I also can't understand is like when I always remember this in reading people's autobiographies, whether it's McKenzie Phillips or that this one guy that was on Mad TV that was on Howard Stern too. I can't remember anything.

Yeah. Yeah. Like they would write these, you know, stories of just be like, I did this many grams of Coke and this heroin and then this and I was up for four days and then this happened and then this person said this to me. I'm like, how the fuck would you remember? That's the way I thought about

Charlie Shee. Like how would you remember? Like how do you know what your story is? Charlie She seemed to have a lot of memories of everything. And we still don't know why his car twice in a month went down the ravine without him in it. And also I feel like he's had a pretty good like movie career and it was really no

I wanted to hear more about like how did you get part in Wall Street? How did you handle working on Wall Street? You know, I felt like some of the stuff was more interesting than some than hearing from his drug dealer, you know, that kind of stuff. Those will be the things that we get into on the podcast. Right. Yeah. I think he'll do both. He's going to do the podcast and he's going to do the two and a half men. He'll quit the podcast after a year. But the two and a half men thing might stick. Right, right. And in the podcast, yeah, you said you didn't know what it's like to be a stockbroker. So how did you embody such a perfect

character. Right. You know, that would be interesting. Or how were you screwed up during the filming of that or Major League or some of the movies that are great. He doesn't mention anything about those. They just a quick clip of, maybe they couldn't get the rights to something, certain clips or something. Well, I mean, I just think they're like, let's

just, yeah, we've got to shorten it to the juiciest stuff, you know, and I'm sure, I'm sure there's a part of him that was telling too long winded of a story and they're just like, okay, grandpa, like, you know, let's get to the good stuff. But, you know, Denise crying about how, you know, she still kind of loves him and everything. And we now know her horrible situation with Aaron, her now husband.

So Aaron and she are getting a divorce. And so people are saying the same thing they said about the Pamela Anderson documentary of like, oh, she and Tommy should get back together. Nobody should get back together. It's fine that they can get along because they have kids at one time. they're going to grandparent together like Lucy and Ricky did. That's nice. But the shit that Denise saw Charlie go through,

you really think she would ever want to be intimate with him again? Forget about the fact that he's admitted HIV and been with men and prostitutes and everything else. Like, how could you ever, like, lose yourself in that and, like, want to be with him ever again in any intimate way? No way. But I feel like now that she's this girl, Denise Richards, with this. guy that she's currently with i feel like it's just we're seeing some patterns here no i mean i think she no i think she and then i saw the guy posted a video of the inside of their house yes so he shows he decides to take everybody he he going on a campaign and i told

denise this when i saw at the cathay held party i go erin going on a campaign to try to win over your fans yeah good luck you are never going to win over anybody you have your family your both your parents and your brother living in a house that she has not lived in for like at least two years, maybe four years. Okay. And he takes the insider edition people upstairs to show her messy bathroom and her messy, you know, makeup.

And he's like, this is how we have to live in squalor. Clean it up, fucker. Like clean it up. She's not there. You have 15 dogs. Then take all the dogs to her house. Get a kennel to pick them all up and take them. if you don't want them.

Like both of you, like, it's your, you care by your elderly parents? Why do you have 15 dogs around them? Then send them off to Canada. Leave the property. Yeah. She's trying to get you to leave. What does this guy do that he got Denise Richards?

And, you know, it's hard enough for people to meet people. You hear all that I can't meet him. And this guy's like, hold on. Before it's like, all this stuff that you probably know about me already. And my parents are coming along to live here as well. Like, how do you get Denise Richards? Okay, first of all, he is a good-looking guy. All right, fair enough.

So he did some rinky, some weird thing about like, oh, get your chakra right. And he actually had office space in Malibu. Shakra office? I don't know. It's not even chakra. It's something else. It sounds like it's a cross between the machine that you do at Scientology and another one that, like, reads your color aura. Oh.

It's just some bullshit stuff. I don't care. It's bullshit, people. Okay, so she goes and she gets her shocker right because he has a big dick and they have sex. Wait, oh, he went to, she went to her his business? She got an appointment at his place, yeah. Oh, and that's how they meant. And they're instantly, like, attracted to each other.

And I think that, you know, he was a different vibe for her. Like, he's like not an actor and a fit guy. And she has the two daughters. And then she had a daughter that she adopted who, you know, at birth, didn't know until the little girl was three that she was nonverbal special needs he seemed really receptive to being a step

or dad to that child so I think that was all there and then she told me like I never wanted to get divorced again because of divorce Charlie was so horrible he was saying horrible things about Denise and the press Charlie and everything so I think

she just put band-aids on it and part of the band-aids was they had all these different like the condos that they would live in separately from each other, let the parents have this one, I don't know. And I think, and then they do this reality show, and I think now it's like,

yeah, but she is, she has claimed that he physically abused her. He says, oh, that was that bruise on her eye was makeup. She, you know, my poor elderly parents, we're not allowed to go upstairs and touch her stuff. What are you saying? Like,

even if you didn't, like, don't throw away your stuff, but you could at least, box it up. Yeah. You could at least clean the rat droppings. Like, what are you talking about? Like, it's just like the four of you don't have jobs. The two old parents, you and your brother and you're strapping, like you have a, like,

clean it up. What are you doing all day? I feel like the real problem here is everyone has too much shit. I mean, I look at, I can't look at that clutter. I mean, I'm like a weirdo. I watch that video and I see that even like the Gene Hack. when they have seen videos of the inside of their home, the wife. And I was like, oh, my God, everyone's just got too much moisturizer.

You know what I mean? I know. You try one and it doesn't work and you get another one. You've got to really, like, force yourself. And then you don't want to throw it out because it's brand new. So you're like, I'll keep this one. I'm not going to use it again. But next thing you know, your counters are all.

You know, I'm going to go through a purge. Next thing you know, you dive. After seeing that photo of all her makeup, I'm like, yeah, I got to like purge mine a little bit. But that's what I think. with that. Okay, now we're going to talk about William White. William White took over TikTok sensation and he was on juicy scoop. He was? He was on juicy scoop because I thought I was because of the way TikTok works because of my age and demographic, I was one of the women that TikTok thought I would get wet for him and he would lip sync these songs, not well by the way. Never bothered to learn the

words of the song. No. He'd be like, oh, Mandy. Yeah. Like, he couldn't even like do it. But he was a babe and he kind of had long hair and he's from Canada with sparkly blue eyes and perfect white teeth. And they thought, you know, people, all these women were like stitching it and getting

excited. So I had him on the show and I did think he was not smart. No, he seems he comes off very smart. Oh my God. I couldn't even want. Everybody was so. So dumb in this documentary, not only him, everybody. The dumbest, I literally said I have never, out of all the documents of documentaries

ever seen about women being taken, Love Con, Tender Swindler, Dirty John, you know, a 90-day fiance, whatever it is. I have never been more embarrassed to be a Gen X woman, woman, than this doc. If you ever want to just say what the hell is wrong, how desperate are we? It's called Thirst Trap. It's on Paramount Plus. I don't know if anybody's watch it. But you told me to watch so I did it.

Yes, I made you watch it. And I mean, I was dying. I was dying. I just was shocked at how dumb everybody was. Like the women, I know that's kind of what they probably wanted. But man, it was one of those ones where I once again agree with Drake. I was just over it by the, I watched the whole thing. But, man.

Now, now, I don't understand, like there's so many good looking, there's a lot of good looking men out there who sing songs. I don't understand why everybody got caught up in this dope. I'm going to explain what it was. It was twofold, okay? It was one that the women, it reminded them of like a high school boyfriend because of the songs that he was singing and his look was like a little from that era. But the second part is what was interesting,

if you're big on social media and Facebook groups and things like that, the women found each other yeah and they had their little fun group and where they all like like love the same thing I see it a lot in my world with the bravo stuff yeah and why it's fun to like go to bravo con and like make we have our little group and everybody has little names and sure I understand that I mean I had a yeah like juicy scoopers whatever but but this was like obviously a smaller niche and it was about this guy and yeah if it was It was a bunch of 50-year-old men pining after a 21-year-old girl in Canada. It would be weird, but they do have that. It's called OnlyFans. I mean, they're, you know, so, but so what was crazy is so then these women, and I'm going to spoil it for you because you don't need to sit through it. Sorry.

No, save your time. So these women go and they get him a ticket to go to Amfar Gala in, in Miami or wherever. and then one of like the youngest of the women who has also got like a bit of a social media following he flirts with her and they fuck they go upstairs and they fuck well that's what happens in all of these groups without sex or whatever when a fan gets too close to the star

whoever they're following then they turn on her oh my god like how did you get to fuck him Like they all turn on her So that was crazy And then the other thing that was interesting Is that this other woman That's part of the interview with a horrible

The older like 50 year old woman That was an only fancied with a weird bedroom She was like Saying I don't think that his little sister Should be featured in the videos Like parenting his mom and her Because the little girl was obviously Being exposed to millions of people

Because his following was so big And so then she felt like he came after her and then she came after him with these nudes so then here's the juice then all he and his cousin who's a man yeah they have they're like the same age and they're like doing jerk off videos together yeah which that was a yeah that was strange and he just was like unapologetic about that too like just like charlie she not that you should be but he just had no explanation for it he was just like yeah anyway I didn't think I looked that good in it but okay and I'm like well did you put them out yourself and she even said that she goes he may have

just put them out himself like how did they get them right yeah they had hundreds of jerk off videos yeah and it was just so weird and when I talked to him I was like well I think you should get into acting and everything and he's like yeah he mentioned that at the end that he's going to get into acting I can't wait to watch that guy do anything I know I mean he's What did you get into is like just hot tar roofing or something? Because that's where it's going, right? He's going to be like... Well, he was a landscaper before.

Yeah, he's going to be like the handsome landscaper who shows up now. Well, this is what he's up to. So I went to his thing and I cannot believe how different he looks. Yeah, he's the handsome eventually wears off. I mean, but I've never seen such a big difference in like four years. Like he really like lost all. I mean, he's just a good looking guy. But like he lost the baby face.

Yeah. And by cutting the hair, he's not as cute. and maybe he did have like a good filter. Maybe he was using filters or lights or something. I think it was a little filtered. Yeah. And then so, you know, then he's like, oh, I was smoking weed and, you know,

jerking off my cousin. Yeah. And this one woman, she's like 60. And she goes, I think I gave him over time about $250,000. And she never got to meet him. No. She didn't get to fuck him in Miami.

me like the other woman did. And now I see that he's doing like William White will call you. Now you can sign up and have him call you into a FaceTime. When prior to that, he also did the mistake that people do. When influencers get too big,

too fast, which is they start to rip on their fans. Yeah. Kind of like, me? No. Kind of like Matt Rife too. Like I don't want all these girls.

I'm funny to men. too like not that he's doing fine it didn't doesn't hurt him but i'm just saying with with william white like he was like somebody had you know very expensive luggage like delivered to his house and then he gets on there and you guys shouldn't know where i live and and they shouldn't right but then that's the problem like now the fan becomes a hater because now you've like and then that one girl that one brunette girl is still like yeah i was just like she was one day i looked out and when I started watching William White videos and then before I knew it it was dark out and I just watched like eight hours of it and I'm again I'm like so then I start watching like

the revenge con or the con of the revenge or something which is not very good well done by the way this is on on on Netflix two which I think they found a bunch of stories where women were love con fraud meaning they love bombed you and they had multiple women, and they took money from you. So it's like a triple embarrassment, okay? It's not like just a cheater. It's like a cheater who also you gave them a whole bunch money. And so I'm watching it, and I'm like,

I feel like they had the whole thing solved and they basically like cast these people to act like they're like two women that are detectives together. Anyway. And every time I see it, it's just like so sad that a woman wants so badly to have a boyfriend. Yeah, that's kind of what it seems. Just like, desperate.

I just read a study that, I didn't read a study. Like, I read a study. No, I saw someone that said, I read a study. Okay. Okay, sure, sure. Yeah, I understood. And they said, the happiest demographic of women are single women with adult children. Either they're widows or divorced or just not in a relationship.

Ladies. You think that? I just, I just. Do you agree with that or? Probably. Yeah. Like, because this is the only alternative. of literally every love con situation is with a woman like in her late 40s or

older who is like finally this guy that's like looks good he's calling me every day telling me we're going to have this business together and then he just needs $25,000 and then we're going to we're going to help the children and da da da da and it's always that and it's like god i don't i honestly think i don't think this guy took enough advantage of it honestly I mean, at 19, and just living in Canada, you know, he probably was just like a regular, it seemed like it's just judging by this house and everything. He's just a regular guy. He lived at home.

Yeah, I feel like he should have taken them for more, even more money. Like, if you're going to be that dumb. But see, then what also happened is then he started to get a lot of hate. Yeah. Because then they were like, this guy's a fucking loser. Like, they were over him. It's been two years. He's not the hot thing anymore.

And then they're turning on him and being like, oh, my God, he still lives with his parents and this and that. And so then he kept. quitting social media and then he'd come back on because he knows that's how it thing ends he says i quit and then i was back yeah he had no other way of like making money so where is he what does he do now but like how can you believe how can you believe people that william white wants to talk to you 55 year old you after you've watched this doc how would you ever believe that anything he says to you is sincere again well the one he did fuck the one lady she got it

she was the cutest of the bunch and then there was another one there was somebody else that he like got but and nobody else did and they were just like and then the one woman saying like if you don't go on live today i'm going to end my life and i mean i'm just yeah i guess well these people obviously got some sort of psychological there's problems there like that one woman who was giggling and you know talking about going to the same restaurants he goes to and stuff she's obviously off and then they'd be like hey guys like their little weird group let's get all together and fly to Canada and see if we can find him at Tim Norton's or whatever that place is.

Yeah. What does that place go? Tim Hortons, the coffee place. Yeah, it's like they're McDonald's or whatever. But this is when you need a family member to Stefan and go, listen, what the fuck is wrong with you? You know what I mean? Well, I think they're hiding it.

Yeah. I don't think they're telling their 25-year-old daughter. Oh, really? What do you have to, Mom? Well, I'm part of the William White fan club. And we are all going, we just, I just donated $3,000 so that he could. go to Amphar and we're all going to go there together and we're going to rent a house

I mean they're desperate for two things they're desperate for love and like you know having sex again or a fantasy of that and they're desperate for friendships because they are they are that demographic like their kids are grown and they're single

which I'm like God it just it shouldn't be around like a weird person it shouldn't be around Mel Robbins it shouldn't be around you know what I mean it shouldn't be around

all these people like you know Mel Robbts I feel like what you got to do it can be around me though it can be around me you don't have big enough glasses you got to put on the big glass

if you want to start giving out sage life advice I feel like that's the new way to go big giant black glasses and then you could say first thing you do when you wake up in the morning is say I'm good enough

I'm good enough I'm good enough and I'm good enough and I'm going to roll out of bed until I tell myself you're worth it. Yeah. You're worth that cup of coffee. You're special. You're loved inside. And if someone doesn't want to invite you to that party, let them. And if William White wants to steal $100,000 for you, let them. Yeah. It's a new day. It's a new day for you to grow and be strong. Like who the amount, what is crazy is, is,

the life coaching and the advice and I mean the amount of like scammers out there and like that is it is just fascinating and the amount of women that do it too I remember are the new scammers like if it's one thing we've they're doing the scamming or getting scammed that a lot of them are influencer scammer people that love the attention they and then they they always throw in like a fake disease oh they have it Yeah, oh, there's so many now. There's so many. There's like five long form podcasts right now that I've listened to that are all the same story.

A cute blonde girl that gets people to believe that she's also a nice, cute blonde girl, and she's actually a scammer. Wow. Like, it's just, and she's just taking your money, and she's just lying, and you're just watching her thing every day, and you think she's just like this powerhouse of a young mom that's like, you know. I don't think I've ever got, you know, I don't think I've ever, you know, I, we know, never fall for the scams. I was always very, uh, I like to think at least. I was always very aware of scams. My whole family. We grew up in a very, everything's a scam household. Everything was a scam. Everything. So much so that we probably missed out on some opportunities because my father

came from a school of, Christopher, that's a scam. Everything was a scam. I feel like, uh, my mother got burned one time on towels. She saw an ad on, like it was the today. show or something. You know where they go deals or deals of steels of deals? Yeah. Yeah. And my mother, they were giving away towels, like four towels for like five dollars. My mother went for it. And they showed up to the house. This is back when you have to wait like nine weeks for stuff to be delivered. They finally showed up and they would just dish towels like shitty dish towels, not nice beach towels. Oh, and I remember, oh, the house was in an uprope. I told you, they don't sell beach towels for $15. It's not a, it's a scam.

So I have been scammed a few times by men. Really? No. Like giving them money? Yeah, three times. What? Before Peter? Oh, yes.

Before Peter. How much money? Peter's been scammed up for 25 years. Scams on you. The ultimate scam is Peter's the grift. Yeah. No, these are the three scams. Okay.

The first one was this guy who said he was going to manage me. Yeah, well, that's a good, that's a, when you're in our business. And he said, his phone was going to turn off. And I said, if I don't give you $180, how is anyone going to find me? How Paramount Pictures is not going to be able to get through. Okay. That's not so bad, 180. Yeah.

Then there was this other guy named Theron, who was this black guy that I met, who was gay, and he would call. we would go to Manhattan Beach and he'd get cute white guy's numbers and then call as a pretend to be a black woman that wants to have phone sex with them. And that's how he made money?

No, I just thought it was fun. It was a psycho story. And I think I gave him like 150. Not a lot. Not a lot. Just whatever. And I even think I said, you don't have to pay me back.

This is like a gift. I think I was like working on the Key and I'm going to die without the one. So far, you're not in too far. And then there was this guy now this is a real scam story. So I was at a Starbucks, like reading a movie. Like I love, like back then, if I had an audition for something,

they would have a runner drop off the script for me like two days before. Yeah. In person, like a readable thing. Yeah. And then I would go to the Starbucks at like on 7th Street in Santa Monica. Oh, the greatest. And read my script and look like I've got some shit going on. circling the line, highlighting, you know, never got any of the parts.

And so this really cute guy is like, what are you doing? He starts talking to me and everything. And his name was Craig. And I gave him my number and he was like New Yorkie and he was like had a arm, like a tatted arm, but he was like dark-haired. Like a cute, like Mickey Wark at his cutest, at his cutest way back. Okay. Okay. So then he, and when he left, this girl goes, you didn't hear what he was talking about to that other girl because you had your like earphones on.

She's like, but he was like talking about how he did like was in prison and stuff. And I was like, whatever, I think it sounds fun. So he calls me and he picks me up and he takes me to a nice restaurant. And he's sober, but he wants to smoke all the time. But he's like, have a glass of wine. Have a glass of wine. whatever. So we make out, and I'm like, very attracted to him. Yes. And we go out again and do something. And then he calls me to say that his car was stolen. Okay. And, but because he did

these white collar crimes that caused him to go to prison when he was, he's like a Wall Street guys who told me. And he has like the bad credit and he can't rent a car. Yeah. So I agree to rent the car. And now this is where the scammer thing happened that I just saw in the love. subcon thing right away he goes here's five hundred dollars right now for me for for me to rent this car like here take it because it's on my thing he's like i'm gonna pay you back when i just don't like well then he doesn't return the car oh shit no so you rents like a hertz or an avis like a legitimate place and he's not returning it and now he's like blowing me off and i'm driving somewhere and he tells me you got in a car accident with it yeah

So I'm like, oh my God, I have got to get. And it's under your name. Yes. Oh. And now it's probably up to like $1,700 that I owe. So even the $500 he gave me in cash, which I've already spent. Yeah. Now I have $1,700 on my credit card.

And I'm like, oh, my God. So like I, so the guy that I lent the 182, the old manager, he was AA2. Okay. So he goes, fuck. I'm still talking to him. Never getting my 180 back, but I'm still talking to him. goes, why would I, why would I cut someone out of my life? So he, so he calls, so he's like on three-way.

And I, and he's like, being a total dick to me, he's like, you're just, he's like, I don't know what happened to you in your childhood, but what, I'm like, Craig, I just want to return the car. Like, it's in my name. Let me just get the car and return it. You don't have to pay me. I just need to return this car. And then the manager slash guy that I owe the one, that owed me the one, he goes, listen.

So all the scammers are on a three-way call. Yeah. And so then he goes, listen, you fucker, like to Craig. He's like, give her, get, let her get her car back and da-da-da. And then he like hangs up, Craig does, and calls you back. And it's just yelling at me like, you're such a fucking bitch. And I go, oh my God. How? And he's like, fine, come over today and I'll give you the keys. So he's staying at this like nice like apartment overlooking the ocean like in Santa Monica. So I bring this other guy that's not a scammer. from groundlings, he drives me. And I go, you brought a guy from groundlings to beat up this ex-convict? Some improv guy. Okay, what we're going to do first? Exactly. Well, that's why he goes, like, of course, any other guy would go, no, I'm going up with you.

But he was like, no, I'll stay in the car. Yeah. Okay, fine. So I go up there, I'm like, hi, you know, hi, Craig, can I get the keys, whatever. And he comes up to me and he starts screaming at me really loud. And I'm backed in a corner and he's like, I don't know what your dad did to you. Like just trying like whatever.

Right. And I see in the little bowl, like see, you know, when you get a red of cart, they always have that little plastic. Yeah. Like whatever there.

And he turns around. He's like, God, you're just so fucking frustrating. And then I ran and I got it. And I run out the door. Oh my gosh. I got it of a movie.

I know. And he told me where it was. It was parked down the street. And here he kept his place impeccable. He always had cologne on. I get to the rent-a-car. It's disgusting. Gusting.

Jamba juice, food, everything everywhere. And so then, but like what I was saying about the scam thing, like the first couple dates, he paid for, gave me that five. That's where the scam, they always pay for a few things up front. Yeah. And they, you know, and then, so then when they ask you for something, you're like, oh, well, he's good for it. Like, he's so generous before.

It's just because he, like, left his credit card in the wrong house or whatever. So then I get the car, clean up, throw out everything away. I return the car. and it's like $7, $700 or whatever that I owe. That's a good one. That's a good scam story. And then I see him like a year later at a restaurant, like out of date. Oh.

And I went right up to him. Like, hi, Craig. And he's like, oh, hey, Heather. He's like, she's a comedian. And then I'm like, yeah, I just got a deal. That was the worst thing you said about that was the worst thing. I go, I go, I just got a deal at CB. and da-da-da-da and I did for a minute you know I didn't go anywhere but I did have a deal at

Seabith and so I'm like what why would I just be like hey you're you know but I just at 27 or whatever whatever it was 30 I just didn't have that like wherewithal to be like you're a piece of shit you need to watch out of this weirdo don't rent in my car and then because it wasn't like there was no Instagram or anything like that I have no way of knowing I'm I'm 99% sure he's dead for sure because he was like 10 years old that I am too, so I'm sure he's dead. Yeah. God, I miss the days of like, I feel like I had a couple of those incidents.

I feel like now I'm in the shoes of the improv friend. Like I had a couple of like loose cannon girls who I hung around who like would ask me, you know, this boyfriend is coming over. I remember vividly, I was with this girl, I was at this girl's apartment some shit hole in like on sweets or in West Hollywood. And she's on the phone like, Uh-huh, uh-huh. She had like a crazy roommate, a girl.

And she's like, uh-huh, uh-huh. And then she hangs up with a phone. She goes, looks at me. She goes, can you fight? I was like, what? I swear to go. She goes, my, my girl, my roommate's boyfriend's coming over. He's fucking crazy.

He's drunk. He beats her up and you got to fight him. And I was like, what? Like now? She's like, yes. Turns out the fucking cop showed up first. Oh my God. It was the craziest story.

Those are like, why. But that was like late 90s where there was No internet. Well, in the Charlie Sheen, in the Charlie Sheen thing, he has a story where he goes, I was dating this girl and so was C. Thomas Howell? And she called me and she goes, I need to be extravated. How did she say it? Yeah.

How did she say excruvated or like. Yeah, she made it. Extracted. Extracted. I need to be extracted from this situation. And he goes, I go over there and he goes, and it's some shit apartment. Woodland Hills, he says. Like Woodland Hills.

Yeah. Peter and I were both watching it at the same time. We just start laughing. Like, and so then he gets her. And it's this. same you know same thing and the only reason like you thank god he did have the gun i got to tell you that story when you're telling us right i'm like oh my god i wasn't like 10 of those situations in that same era of hollywood like just crazy people and then she's the one that got him into crack yeah

and that she wind up dying he said yeah and he's like oh such a waste such a i'm like i don't know she got you addicted to crack i feel like was her life really going in great places i feel like all the drugs that he did had definitely he's definitely offs now yeah you definitely sense that there was something off about him. If you were Chuck Lur, would you trust getting into business with him again? I mean, that's the only thing that would keep me from my prediction is like, would people be like, we're not doing this again, you know? Otherwise, I mean, who knows?

Or is it the kind of thing that you just, you kind of age out of relapsing? That's, my other thought. Like, I'm, 60 years old. Like, yeah, what's you're going to do now? Yeah. The whole world knows you have, you're, you're, you're, HIV positive. Right.

You're like, I don't know. Yeah. Like, maybe you've just done it all. And if you really have been sober for seven years, I mean, that's a pretty good testament to it. The other thing was he kept mentioning kids here and there. Like, he had a kid when he was like 18. Yeah, she's 40.

Yeah, never another mention of her. Then the two boys that really was with Book Mueller. We see the boy at one boy at the end. And then the notes he was leaving the kid on like his luncheables and stuff. Like, I guess how that was supposed to be cute. Oh, fuck yourself, Bob. Like, I was like, this is like, this is just like wacko behavior, you know, where I'm like, thank God I didn't grow up in a world where everyone's a complete. I had to open my luncheables and see, you're a fuck what.

I'm like, ah, ha, ha, how cute that is. A lot of years ago, Jill Zeran is like, I'm in town. Come. I'm going to take you a real fun lunch. It's got, and the new Beverly Hills Housewives going to be there. And I go. And it's Adrian Maloof, who at the time was married to Nassif, who, at the time, was married to Nassif, who, Dr. Nassif, who is the one who calls to help Charlie Sheen, the nine-woman call, like, on one of the times he was, like, about to die.

And then Jill knew Brooke Mueller, his second wife, the mom of the twins, mother. And so she was there. Brooke was there. The whole Aspen thing had already happened. Yeah. She was supposedly sober again. And going through the divorce with Charlie. and then Adrian Maloof was going to just about

to start Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and Patty Stanger was there and I sat right across from Brooke because I was like, oh my God, I like need to know more about this woman and then and I mean she was just kind of like her nervous like weird self but like she didn't have anything to drink then or anything but I think she's been in and out of rehab

like 21 times yes and then at one point and at one point yeah she definitely seemed she was a little on something but he even said he goes her timeline of getting sober is different than mine that tells me she's not sober and then and then he um and then my greatest the weirdest show is when kathy hilton and paris hilton decided to do a reality show and they made brook mueller their mutual best friend oh yeah they go and she has and she and she falls off a sobriety train again during the taping of the show and they're trying to like set her up on dates.

Not to stay on this Charlie Sheen thing too long, but we failed to mention that you and I were in the room while the tour was being planned, the Charlie Sheen breakdown tour that they talk about a lot in this, remember that? Chelsea was on the phone with Jeff Wills, who was the head of Lev Nation at the time. He was saying, you cannot going to believe this, but I'm literally sitting with Charlie Sheen right now planning a tour. And we were like, what? Like literally that afternoon we were watching like the tiger.

Blood videos. And he's like, no, I know. That Charlie Sheen, Tiger Blood guy, is in the office of LiveNation planning the tour. And they did it. That part was fascinating to me. That was kind of interesting that it was like a disaster. And they're like, well, don't worry that, you know, he's like, everyone just says, tell stories. Yeah, you got to have like a show. You got to have something planned. Like, what do you think? And they're like, well, you have the most Twitter followers in Chicago. So that'll be great. And then all these other people are like, no, it sucks. Don't. Don't even bother or sell your ticket or get rid of it or whatever. and I'm like he was really the first person that did these like I'm just famous come by a ticket and hear me like talk things that now they kind of ended you don't really see much of that anymore I feel like you do well it's a little around housewives and podcasters and stuff right right but speaking of another weird thing that happened so there was this weird guy met and he's like um yeah I'm performing this is a friend that theater I'm going to perform stand up at uh like the roxy or something He rent it out. Because that's where Sam Kinnison

filmed one of his specials. Yeah. And I go, oh, I didn't even like, no, you did stand it. He's like, I don't, but I'm doing it tonight. And all these agents are coming. And I think I was at the show. I remember this. Did you go?

Yes. And I got, like, walked off stage or something. He just, like, starts screaming. And like, he had no act, nothing. And then afterwards, he's like, yeah, I got three offers for a development deal. I'm like, when everyone was getting development deals, I'm like, No, you didn't.

Like, what are you trying? Like, you can't just like, but he had money, so he had rented it out. I remember this. And anyone could come. I think I was working across the street at time, and that guy would come in, and he invited us to the show and I went.

Yeah, that's what he was doing. He's just a mini, any community could to invite. And I was like, because I was like, and he's like, maybe you can, you know, when I go on tour, you can like open for me or have a part in the sitcom. So I was like, okay. Yeah.

Do you need $180 on top of it? Or rental card? The scant. God. Thank God, this scamming world, at least for me, it's over. It's very, the one in the LoveCon one, this guy gets all these women because he's sending videos and selfies like every day. Like, I love you, I miss you, but he's sending to like all different, like he never says

their names. So he's like saving time, doing the content and sending it. And he had a wellness center that he was like, oh, I need $25,000 for this. I need $10,000 for this. I need whatever you could get. And he'd even go to the camera and be like, I'm going to go play some poker if you want to send me $25, that'd be nice. And these women would.

Yeah. It's amazing, too. Well, everyone's insane. A lot of people are crazy too, you know. There's a lot of crazies out there. And so these women are just like, yeah, all embarrassed. And there were certain ones that I was like, mm, that guy's gross. I don't even care.

Like, I was skipping around. I'm like, find me someone that I can like, could I have been conned by this weirdo? Well, I got to be honest with you. You told me to watch two things, Charlie Sheen. and the, you know, the thirst trap. Yeah. And both of them made me angry. Like just the stupid stupidity of thirst trap was driving me insane.

And then Charlie Sheen, I was just like, I don't know, I really, this is going to sound callous and cold of me, but I have no patience for drug addicts. I really don't. I don't know why. And I felt like I'm watching some drug addict tell stories, and it's annoying to me. That's it. yeah and I great because he was so like kind of like brilliant and inherently funny and good looks and grew up with Sean Penn and Rob Lowe yeah and your dad is Charlie Shee right in Malibu

right like you had every every opportunity and that's the thing maybe too much opportunity does make you piss it away I thought that was like kind of the one thing that was sort of interesting that you don't really that people don't really talk about yeah like if there's not a hunger for it Like you didn't come from New York. Right. To model kimonos. Exactly. Yeah.

And Malibu. You know, I was out there during those days. He didn't come from the hot bowels of the valley and Woodland Hills trying to be a star like Heather McDonald. No, I mean, I just. So. And for that reason, we're both still going. Not on drugs yet. No.

No. And playing Sacramento Punchline. Oh, let's talk about. about it. Sacramento Punchline. What's happening? Wednesday, this Wednesday, this week. How fun. You're going to see this on Tuesday. The next night. Sacramento Punchline, one show only, Wednesday night. Thursday night, Cobbs and San Francisco. This week, this Thursday, this Thursday, Cubs and San Francisco. Beautiful time to be in that part of the country too. After that, you want to hear some more? Yeah, I do. Can I just rattle them off? Of course. Irvine Improv, Sunday, September 21st, Sunday night, Irvine Improv. That one could use some help. Okay. How about Phoenix, Phoenix, Arizona, Desert Ridge?

I love that out there. Phoenix out of September 25th. Beale Street Theater, Kingman, Arizona. A lot of people say, what? You're going to Kingman, Arizona? I am. Beale Street Theater, September 26th. Oxnard Improft, September 27th, Saturday night. Oh, Oxford.

And Philadelphia Punch, Oxnard. Oxnard. Oh, yeah, yeah, great. Close, close, close. Saturday night, which will be fun. And then Philadelphia Punchline, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania on October 16th through the 18th. And then I'm going to be at Brad Garrett's Comedy Club.

We talked about Brad Garrett in Las Vegas the first week of October. Thank you so much. Oh, fun. Yeah. It's all I got. And, of course, for me, you guys, November 14th, my show, which I'm really getting excited about. That's Las Vegas, too, right? Yeah, that's going to be very Bravo-centric.

Is that during BravoCon? It's during BravoCon. So BravoCon's back. BravoCon is back. It's November 14th, 15, 16. So this is the first night of it. 10 o'clock so you can come in, check in the hotel. get cute go to dinner go to my show

what hotel are you where where's the show at it's mGM grand at the david copperfield theater oh all right so they have a lot of comedians there so it's kind of built for that so that's good and um it's going to have a lot of fun surprises we're not going to hold back and i've been collecting some really like fun bits and things about who are you having with you anybody i brandy and julie okay and then some surprise guests and some surprise things that I've never done in the show before. So it'll be super, super fun and no one will be disappointed. So we just, we have that. Yeah. And it's almost sold out. You were telling me before we came to air. It is. So hurry up and get your tickets, everybody.

Heather McDolland.com. Heather McDollin, that for everything, you guys. And cover to cover is a podcast they do, which is amazing to me that I'm so thankful to the Juicy Scoop fans who come to my shows, because there are a lot of them after the shows. And I always say hi and whatever. They give me massages, some of them. But there is still some people after the show that are like, wait, you have a podcast too? I'm like, I don't understand how you haven't heard that yet. You know, I feel like we've promoted all we can. I have people that come up to me still and just go, I know you from the news.

Yeah. And it's because they remember me from Chelsea lately and they associate e-news with, and they don't know I have a podcast. They don't know that I'm still, you know, even doing comedy anymore. Right. So it's fine. You just have to educate them, let them know, let them know that we're doing it. Listen, if you want me to sing you Barry Mantelow songs, I'll do that. You know, that was the first one.

He sang was Mandy. No, he literally just did one the other day. I was because I was on, and he still doesn't, he just did Mandy again, and he still never bothered to learn the words. William White, like at a certain point, like, learn the words. Nothing annoys me more than Ralph Machio, who is the karate kid. Yeah. He has been doing this karate kid character now for like 45 years.

Everything that he does is somehow related to karate kid. And he has, in his 45 years, being the karate kid, the actor himself, Ralph Rancho, has not learned a lick of karate. You can just tell by looking at it, this guy, at this point, he should be a triple black belt. Right. He just decided, you know what, I'm just going to wing it. I'm not going to learn any karate. And this is going to be my, I'm going to be the karate kid, but not learn any karate. It drives me insane.

amazing Chris thank you thank you for having me love you love you back bye bye