Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Chris Franjola, Epstein, Wicked Press and Gay Clubs

Episode Date: November 20, 2025

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Thank you. Yeah. Killing it in all categories. Welcome back to juicy scoop. Chris Franjola. Decided to be here in the house. Not Burbank. I love it.

I love that you come to the house. It makes my life nice to. It's nice to come out here. Thank you for having me here. Let's get into it. Let's get into it. So much to get into it. Yeah.

Well, you know I was at the MGM Grand this weekend. Yes. Where you've performed many times. I perform at the Brad Garrett Comedy Club. Yeah, with my friend Brad Garrett. Our show was after David Copperfield. So they were nice enough to let us go to David Copperfield on Sunday night. And it's a show.

You got to go. You just have to go. You have to see it. David Copperfield, illusionist, magician, Vegas legend. It's called the David Copperfield Theater. Yeah. So I think, I mean, maybe there was a theater. Maybe they had something going on there before.

I don't know how long he's been there, but I think, you know, he designed the theater to create these illusions. And there are three amazing jaw-dropping moments. Anyway, we got to go backstage and meet them after, do a special illusion with a couple other special people. Very fun. So my Bravo con recap was on Tuesday show with Brandi and Julie. I'll do more that has happened on the Friday Patreon than I saved specifically. But it was a super fun Vegas weekend. Good.

Great meals. How is Vegas? Still got it? Still out there? Still fun? Drake was like, why are people saying that it's dead?

It was so fucking crowded. I thought the same thing when I was there a few weeks ago. I was like, it seems there's more crowded than ever. But I think on a second, Tuesdays and Wednesdays, I think where I don't know.

I mean, we were there from Thursday to, I mean, and they said BravoCon is not a big deal. Like the FGM ground is like, what? What is it?

So it wasn't like there were so many people but there's just so many other things going on. The F1 was coming this week. You walked down on the floor of the MGM and it was bustling. Like every, you know. And he went to a club. We went to the Hakasan Club,

which was so freaking fun. I mean. Now, what, is sparklers and all that? I mean, I saw sparklers. You would have loved it. I was very jealous. Next time we do a show there, I will make sure you come

that you're performing with me and that we. get the experience because also the DJ was great like played music you would know every song was Kyle Cook from Summerhouse he was very good okay so it was just two hours of just fun the show was over I was happy yeah good so it was all fun now who's hanging out in Hakasana like it was Saturday night Saturday night this was Friday night is it like 21 year old people or is it I mean what goes on in I mean I didn't really see because I was looking down at the people I'm sure as you should be.

I mean, you know, there was a mix of people that were like the women from the BravoCon weekend that like, you know, wanted to go see Kyle and then there was mix of guys and girls and gays, like I don't know, like, it's happy people, just happy, fun, cool. Everyone looked stylish. I love it.

And it was fun. But you brought up something and I go save it for the show. Okay, you know, I wanted to bring up. Yes. Something I've been noticing lately and I noticed that I was getting like BravoCon stuff in my feed for whatever reason. And I love it.

annoying, whatever you want to call it. But there seems to be a tide of straight older men. There must be an agent or a manager. Someone here in L.A. who is telling these guys to pivot towards like a Bravo love or a Real Housewives love in order to, I don't know, get a career resurgence or something. Like a Jerry O'Connell, Michael Rappaport.

There's quite a few of them. They kind of have been in the mix for a while. I understand. Yes. But now there's a ton. And listen, everyone can enjoy it, make their money, whatever. But yeah, it's a show about housewives. And it is becoming more and more men.

I don't care what your sexuality is. Commenting on women, their bodies, their looks, you know, what they say, what they should do, if they're a good parent or not. And it just, you know, it is our culture. Our culture is female women. And it's like, yeah, as someone who's been talking about it, Since the very first, you were the first Andy Cohen parody. Yes.

Oh, God, way back on Chelsea lately. You did Annie Cohen when we did the second reunion of New Jersey. I wasn't playing, in my defense, I wasn't playing Andy Cohen. The women that actually can relate to the women are not the ones being chosen to comment or by Bravo to do panels or do anything like that. Right. I mean, if I have to see Jerry O'Connell jumping around one more time about, I don't know, somebody on Real Housewives of Who Gives a Shit. And I mean, I'm like, this is a straight man.

I get it, but I find it to be a little annoying. It's a little annoying. There's a little bit of like, can we have one thing? Yeah. Can we just have one thing that's ours that we've cultivated for years, the people have been doing for a long time? The same time, you know, it's fine. Everyone can do it, but maybe don't put those people at the top of the pyramid to talk about it.

Because they're insensitive. They say awful things about, single mothers and stuff like that and it's like you remember yeah for many years still going on actually to this day uh anytime there was a female sideline reporter in the NFL or anything you know oh how dare they get these women don't belong down there blah blah blah so now you guys need to start a whole campaign to get rid of jerry o'Connell and michael rapport from well i mean here's the thing you know i i don't know a lot about sports so if all of a sudden right i was like ranting about the tail and quarterback, whatever.

Sure, sure, yeah. And how I think he needs to be traded to the Lakers or whatever. Yeah, with like a passion. Right. And like saying like, you know what? You suck. You're not good. And this coach or what? People would be like, Heather, you don't know what the fuck you're trying?

Like, what do you know about how hard it is to be a professional football player or whatever? Just like I think the best commentators, commentators on. are people that have actually played them to some level. Yeah. I'm actually a housewife. I'm actually a mother. I've actually been married. I actually have references

of many people that have gone through divorce and raised kids in different stages of life. But that's besides the point. So I love that you recognize that. And no, I probably won't go away. And probably if we let things go the way they're going, no women will be able to comment on Bravo. we will be doing,

we'll just be surrogate mothers. We'll just be surrogate mothers. Just be Terry O'Connell screaming at all of you. In the Handmaids tale. Yeah. Uh-huh. Okay. So I need to talk about the scary time we're in right now.

It terrified me a year ago or eight months, whatever, it's how months ago? It's back. It's the press for Wicked. A press tour. A Wicked Press tour. A Wicked Press tour is like nerves.

Like, I don't want to see it in my feed. I did not enjoy the movie I did not like it you didn't like the first one no I mean I watched it I yeah we watched it together like in our room over the holidays I think

whatever it came out in mammoth and we were just like I didn't I just didn't like it okay in a story I said how I thought I would have written it better but I originally heard what the story was like the back story between Glenda and the good witch and the bad witch I just think it could have been so much juicier

but whatever it was a huge play people love it people are screaming at me as they drive but the two of them Cynthia who plays the green witch Cynthia Revo very talented lady good singer very good singer and very accomplished and Ariana Grande again very same great singer very accomplished they're fucking now I'm sorry anorexic bodies I don't know what's going to beorexic look at what they look like before look at what they look like before and the clawing and the fitting and then and then she Eddie like someone came out trying to grab Arana Grande or whatever and it was Cynthia and that was like yeah like like she turned into the wit there's like five bodyguards that that's their job like we don't need 92 pound Cynthia

with her claws yeah and then she's always pawing she's always fixing her fixing her necklaces And then they, people zoomed in and they said, the next, so when you fix a necklace, Bravo guys that are listening to this that don't know about necklaces that are just now getting into commenting on Bravo. So they thought to listen to Juicy Scoop. Someone, a girlfriend might move it for you, but you would tell someone, hey, it's because the latch is in front. Right. So you want to move it to the back. So she had this very diamond necklace, probably worth like $500,000.

There was nothing wrong with it. Yeah. In the middle of her being interviewed, Arna Grande, Cynthia releases the clutch from her vagina and goes over and moves it around and then moves it back and there was literally nothing wrong with it. It was centered before she started. And then Arna goes, oh, she's getting an itch to fix. She needs to fix.

I'm like, what in the satanic grooming? What the fuck did these two girls? What souls did they have to sell to actually become real witches? to star in this fucking wicked i'm going to give you by theory okay please i believe that it became such a uh online phenomenon the last press tour yes with all the finger holding and the making space and all that that i believe that now they're leaning into it this time like let's really kooky it up so we could get you know the movie made a ton of money it was a big hit so why not go nuts again and see if we can get this one to be as big a hit possibly yeah also possible is

that the love and the lesbianism is truly there and i hope so i mean i want it to be uh cynthia is she says she's a queer woman not a lesbian because she was with guys before but she's like a woman now she has a book coming out okay um but also Ariana Grande had this other husband that she got rid of the real estate guy that she married for like a couple of weeks yes and then she got with the guy that sponge by square pants or whatever yes he's in he's in wicked he's in wicked and he looks like her brother uh-huh and looks like Frankie Grande and um and he was like married with a child on a way so some people think that's sort of sinister that they fell in love like while he was married and she was married but the clutching and all that stuff I think oh also

Also someone said, you know, Cynthia really loves Ariana Grande because Cynthia was getting two million and Ariana was getting 12 and Ariana went back and was like, this isn't right. Make it even. So, you know, and then they, so they filmed the whole thing all at once. Yeah. So then they just were like, we'll split it up, milk it out. If you tell me there's a third, I'm going to fucking kill somebody. I cannot go through this the third time.

I never want, it's like, it literally, every time it comes like in my phone, it's like scary. to me they're so skinny and they're just like and then and then one like climbing on each other yeah and then Cynthia was like answering and and an arrow like a helicopter's going over and Arana was like she was wanting a fly yeah how dare it how dare it play why the Cynthia speaking sorry you're getting emotional because the helicopter you're getting an emotional people to quiet we're getting emotional we're getting emotional she was telling people to quiet down the photographers were yelling. Yes.

And she's like, please, quiet. Like, I don't know what goes on with this. I mean, I swear this Ariana Grande, it looks like she was, I always said that she looks like she was made in like a Japanese anime factory or something. Wait, they showed old video of hers. Yeah. And she was kind of like being, like talking like a girl that, you know, grew up in East L.A. Yeah.

And was, you know, trying to jump into a gang. She was like, you don't know me. and now she's like oh hello yeah yeah she went from being like latina to asian like i don't know what the fuck is happening and blonde and just and rick and like just so skinny and it's just now she's like fading away no she's become translucent yeah she's full-blown translucent and then i also heard that cynthia is getting ready to do dracula on stage and that is why she because she's going to play Dracula, even though it's a man. Oh, really?

She's going to play Dracula and so, and she, I mean, she, that'll be good. Oh, I know. Scary as fuck. Actually, actually, people say that she looks like Lestat, the original, like the Dracula Vampire, that's what I think she's trying to become. Oh. So she has a book coming out and in the book, she says how she raged at a manager. She said she was rehearsing for a show and the manager came in like, hey, with a group of people

that she didn't know. And she just raged and screamed at him. Like, why bring you a bunch of people to see me rehearse, get the fuck out? And, and then after that, he sent her a letter being like, okay, we're not going to work together anymore. Now he probably regrets it. But there is something so interesting about like, and we've all dealt with this because as a comedian, when you have friends come to see you, they think you're just hosting a cocktail party. And so. There's nothing worse.

So the times at people, whether, you know, Peter's brought them in or I've said come or whatever, and they've already had three drinks and then I've got the free drinks and they're making their drinks and I'm like trying to get my notes and I'm like literally and they're like five minutes. I'm like, you guys don't want to see. This was the first Vegas that I said, you know what? I'm not mixing the fun with the job. I will have fun with who's ever performing with me. Drake, you know, we'll all have fun together.

But this year, we started the talk of like inviting other people, like the other couple. And I was like, no, I really want to just like do the show and I don't want to be worried about if so. I mean, one time I was doing that lipstick, remember that lipstick? Oh, yes. That was up Venetia. The female comedian. And I was like, oh, let me make it. Let's honor my girlfriend on her birthday in October.

Yeah. There's six people. They're not on the list. They're calling me from behind the day. I would never. And I'm like, this, this is another reason why it was so seamless, is because I was funny. So I want to say, even though I just ripped on her scariness, you can be scary in that moment.

How did your manager not clear that? I completely agree with that. I bet the manager is what I think. Yeah. No offense to anybody, not, I love my gay guys. I bet he was gay. I bet he was like, found some twinks at the club. You got to come see this one.

Yeah, you've got to see Cynthia. I'm like, stop it. you represent Cynthia and then he's like come and look and they're like and they probably once they got there they're like you're amazing and then they're probably making their drinks and talking and she's got a show in like 20 minutes and she's like get the fuck out you know and she like did her witch thing on them and they turned green and left that's what I think happened so it's the uh yeah the nails she got the big nails that you know that kind of all adds to it it all adds to it it's fun So the premiere is here, go see it.

Go see it, Wicked Part 2, whatever it's called. The venture continues. Well, this is going to be quite shocking to the world, but according to TMZ, the LAPD is now viewing David as a suspect, hasn't been arrested yet in the death of the teenager Celeste Rivas, who was found dismembered in the trunk of his Tassos, which. is registered to him. Yeah. So talk about Columbo here. Yeah, I know. I felt like this is, it's taking a while.

Sherlock Holmes. Yeah. I mean, if somebody's dead in your trunk, you're immediately a suspect, right? They say that, which is what I've said the whole time, is that there's probably two. They're going to find out

who actually may be finished or dismembered it or put it in the car. Like, I think he probably had something to do with the death, for sure. but then he had his homie his cousin his whatever who maybe then knew

a third person and then that person did all the stuff and was dumb and left it in the car like why are you leaving in the car like what so I think they're gonna

they're either have the other guy and when they haven't let the news know and they're the other guy is now going to turn and and implicate him that it was that he was told to do it or he knew about it and cleaned it up.

God bless him. I can't get a friend to pick me up from the airport. This guy's like, hey, listen, I can't fit this woman in the trunk.

You do me a favor? No, bro. I'll give you free tickets and you can see me come with your gay friends while I rehearse. Make sure she fits in there real good.

I don't want any things sticking out. All right, I'll take care of it. Yeah. Yeah. That's wild. But one of the things that Matt Murphy said,

you know, former prosecutor said, that he moved everything, all of his properties into his mother's house after the body was found. Oh. And the reason for that is whether he gets convicted or not, they can still go ahead and build a case like the Goldman's did with OJ and say you were responsible and sue.

Right. So he wanted to move all of his properties in it so that he wouldn't lose those properties. Okay. Because he'll be penniless when they sue him. Yeah. I'm not familiar with his work but I listen to a couple songs it's not really it's like

it's not really rap it's like kind of mellow what is the one called Drake Homicidal Love Oh And then he has a music video Where they're dragging a body Into the back of a car

Oh really? Yes and he has a bloody shirt on that have handprints on Like as he was burning the person They grabbed his shirt Oh Way to tell on yourself Have you heard his new song?

She don't fit that's not nice come on everybody it's not nice this is juicy skew people it's a comedian show comedic commentary facts don't always fit that's exactly don't come here for your news come here for your abs a good time a good time especially when chris is on so there you go um brittney spheres

got invited to snuggle in bed with Chloe and Kim. Yes, go ahead. Is this part of something? Is this a promotion for one of their? Yeah, anything, because I feel like how did this happen? I know how it happened. Okay, tell me how.

So her manager is Cade Hudson, not Kate, Cade, Hudson. Okay. And he's been a big time agent, manager, but he's young. He's like, maybe he's 40s. He's in the bed with him, right? Yes. He is best friends with Nikki Perkins. Hilton.

So he's in this world. Yeah. And he's the one who I saw when I met her. Right. You know, he was on his way. I was like, Britney's here. He's like, I'm on my way. So I think there was so funny because there were TikToks and stuff saying this isn't real.

It's AI. I'm like, no, it's real. She posted it. Yeah. And so they, yeah, I think it was just like a fun thing. And they were like, sure, have her come over. And then she's like dancing with a kid. teaching them a dance move like but she just she just filmed the kids dancing um like true and

dream and then she's doing the english accent and they're just laughing and and being sweet and obviously it was very nice whose house are they at it kim's house or clois or kloys or kims okay i think maybe chloe's i'm not sure yeah and so yeah i mean i think it was real and i think they were just doing their christian service and just being nice and enjoying her but how long does it last like how long do you because I feel like Britney Spears there's a there's a window there well here's the other thing at Chris Jenner's 70th birthday party right Lou Taylor was there and photographed with her Lou Taylor was the manager that worked with Jamie Spears to get her into the

conservatorship oh so a lot of her fans are like any connection to Lou Taylor why would why would she be friends with them but I don't think she He is stringing things that far back in Hollywood. I think she was with Cade and he was like, want to go over to Kim and Chloe's? And she was like, sure. I don't think she was like, wait a minute. Chris Jenner invited Lou Taylor,

who put me in a conservative ship for 13 years and tried to steal my money. No, I think she's not, I think she just focused on just the two of them and she had a fun time. And she had some people, I think it's all fine. All right. I'm happy she had fun.

Yeah, it was weird. It was weird for, yeah. I didn't even realize they were, friendly, like in the same world. Well, they're not. I mean, the thing is, they're not. Like, gee, it's you, what you see.

Right. The other one who originally brought up the Cheesecake Factory Foyer, what you see, and I'm the one that brought up the brown sensible pumps, which are hands down, her favorite dancing shoes. She also likes a suede boot with a bikini and a felt hat. But like, that's what you get.

Like, there is no difference from what you, so it's, you know, it's not, the greatest conversation on earth or anything, but I'm sure it was fun for all of them. Okay. I feel like there was a lot of, you know, so they got to a point probably 15 minutes in with Chloe and Kim were both like,

all right, so anyway, like, are we, how much longer is this going to go on for? Brittany's spinning around in the corner. And talking in any attention. Oh, my God, your bed is vibrating. And they're like, yeah. This has been great. I have to do, you know, whatever.

For the bar again. Yeah, something, anything. Yeah, I got to go. Yes. I mean, remember when I told you my night out, they were going to a second party. Yeah. And you know me. I never say no to a party.

But that night, I was like, I'm good. God bless you. I'm good. Like, it's a lot. It's not, it's like you're being nice and taking care of like a little kid. Right. So after a little bit, if it's not your kid, you're not that into it. No.

No, don't want to say to everything. Is it over? So this girl is a DoorDash driver and, you know, which isn't an easy job and kind of, you know, and she said, I delivered food and this man and she films this guy, she goes into his house, she films him like a passed out on a couch, pants down, and somehow says like she was violated. Like she was violated by it. Yeah. And then a lot of people, because we're like,

wait a minute it sounds like he was really wasted made the call and passed out like he was passed out his house why were you going into his house if someone doesn't answer the door aren't you supposed to leave it at the door and even if the door was open

why wouldn't you just leave it at the door that's what everybody does yes and so anyway she has been arrested for what what was arrested for gosh I'm sorry I don't have all the facts but she for like DoorDash arrested claimed assault and posted nude video of customers.

I think violation of that. Breaking, breaking an injury or trespassing and then violating his privacy because you can take video of anybody in a public space. Right. But you can't like go in their home,

film them when you're not invited. With pants down, no less. Yeah. So, I mean, how many times in your life? Right. Have you ordered a pizza? I remember definitely in college you'd order the pizza

and pass out and totally forget that you ordered it, you know? And what's great about DoorDash as you wake up and it's there and hopefully you can heat it up at 7 a.m. But like, you know, because you could pay on an app

back then the pizza, poor pizza guy would come. You wouldn't answer the door and he doesn't get paid. Right. And doesn't get a tip. Yeah. And you're screwed. And this guy's probably heating his up in the morning

and going on TikTok. Like, wait a minute. That looks like me. Sitting out with his pants down. Oh, what a nightmare. I could think of nothing worse. Nothing worse. So he fought back and she's getting arrested.

All right. The Epstein stuff is, it's here. It's going crazy. And it just really is interesting that they did, I found this. So Heather Bates, 111, put together an old episode and posted online of clips from the VH1. It's called, this is clip from VH1's the fabulous. Life of Billion Dollar Wall Street Ballers

featuring Jeffrey Epstein. So they did a whole series of like Wall Street Ballers and Jeffrey Epstein was one. He was on the VH1 show. Yes, and I saw the clip and it's like he doesn't only have a plane. He has a second plane. The guy's like who needs a commercial airline for yourself? Everyone's like to traffic children. And he has his own island

and he's friends with and like they show Bill Clinton and all this other stuff. And then I Then this other girl I saw, and I'm sorry that I'm not getting your credit, but it was like, it is crazy when you think, like, right from the start, he was like getting in with rich people that were sick as him and then like blackballing because they're like, he got a job in an all-girl school or private school. Yeah. Teaching math. He hadn't, he didn't even have a teaching degree because sometimes at private schools, not now, but you don't even have to have the property. degrees. That's why people would be like, public school is better than private because people could

just be like the mom that's like, oh, you need a kid and her and teacher, like, which would happen in the past. But anyway, so he wasn't even properly, you know, certified to be a teacher. Then he makes friends with one of the parents at the school. Okay. And this girl brought up, like, most really wealthy parents aren't like hanging out with their kid's teacher. They'll get them a good gift or hope that they are on the good side.

Then that guy gives him a job on Wall Street. Again, no training, nothing. Then he meets the weird guy that owns all the Victoria Secrets and stuff. Oh, yeah. And that's when now he's... Columbus, Ohio. Right. And then that guy gives him like $500 million.

Rex, Wexler. Yes. And then they're off and running with the weird sick shit that's gone on for, you know, went on for whatever, 25 years. Yeah, this is all crazy. I have to see this episode now of this VH1. show. Is it available to watch somewhere? Probably you could probably find on YouTube or TikTok.

That seems. Wow. I mean. And they just have like the talking heads like I mean come on this is the dot you know like and his friends are Woody Allen sweet like all these like a bunch of weird perverse watching oh that's cool yeah. What now what becomes of the eye where is the island these days? Well funny that you ask because oh okay so I was hanging out with Luandall's steps. Oh sure

And her friend is married to the man who bought it. Oh, so somebody bought it. Bought it for $60 million. All right. Which is a really good deal when you think that there's like houses in Beverly Hills for $60 million that are a three and two. I know. So he gets a whole island with a story to tell. And, you know, some people would think, oh, my God, how no one will ever go there.

Yeah, they will. Yeah, they will. Right. Think of all the horrible things that have happened all over the world historically where people have died. And if there's a nice hotel, people will go. Starbucks. You know. So it's going to be a very, very expensive high-end hotel, you know, with limited numbers of rooms.

Probably, nobody can probably even stay there for less than like 3,500 a night or something. I feel like it would still have a little bit of a really. I don't know if I would run to that. You're not going to run to it. But I'm saying they won't have a problem filling it up. Yeah. You're not going to go on, you know, TripAdvisor or whatever hotels tonight. and they're going to be like, we can't fill up this place.

They're going to have to rename it. Pedophile Island is not, the pedophile island, Rich Carlton, is not going to work. Yeah. It's definitely going to be called something like, you know, Villa de la Rosa or something. Yeah, right, right. It's just going to be something different. And, you know, he's probably the owner of it wanting for this to get all out and be officially done, however it ends up right I would if I was him I would be like let this all get out let every

fucker go down whoever really is in it or whatever because you know the files is it can't just be the emails I mean we need to see the VHS tapes right of the people getting blown or doing people that and they say they're not adults they say there are VHS tapes right I mean they yeah they said they had it all but you know then it probably got stuck in a Tesla that then, you know, disappeared. I don't know. I mean, who knows? But, um, you know.

It's all pretty fascinating. Yeah, Gislane, I heard, was, is moved to the Texas prison with Jen Shaw of Real House of Salt Lake City and Elizabeth Holmes one drop. Both in the same same, same, same, all in the same prison. Right. Um, probably coming up with another, come up with their own reality show pitch. Podcasts. They got a podcast coming.

No doubt. No doubt. Um, but anyway. Yeah, but I would think you'd want this to be done. So then maybe in like 2028 or 2030, it'll be like, oh, remember that? People forget quick. If it all gets out and settle and done, 2030, this place will be, you know, some 25-year-old that just made his money doing, you know, whatever the thing is then.

I'm just shocked. Doing TikTok's on space will be like, I never. knew the history of Villa de la Rosa they won't even know right because you know so who knows I'm shocked that that like so many and and you know all the people we hear were on the island or on the flights or whatever the case may be I'm shocked that there was I want to hear from people who said no you know like they got the invitation I'm sure there are many and we're like no I'm not interested in that for whatever reason that's the email I want to see yeah thank you so much for your lovely invitation I appreciate it.

Right, right. Heather and Peter have three days free at the Marriott Timeshare that weekend. Yeah, yes. They won't be able to make it. And you dodged a bullet probably if you didn't. I don't know. It's all sad and crazy and whatever. I mean, I can't believe.

But that's a world out there that I don't know. You know, it's not my world. Thank God you don't know it. Oh, I mean, I don't have any desire. A bunch of 16-year-old girls making fun of me. That's what they would do after it was over. You know, they get all catty making fun of. I don't like, I don't need that.

You know what I mean? Like, all right, I got it. I have small calves. We don't need to harp on it. Oh, my God. Yeah, I don't know. It's crazy. And then I read today, there was something today that's one of the women, one of the survivors or whatever you want to.

She said that he has a lemon shaped dick. Did you read that? And so. I don't even know how that. I don't know. I know that mire lemons are all the rage. Is a vire lemon shape different than just a regular lemon? I don't, I mean, either way, it's an odd shape.

Could I just say, I bought a bag of those little weird cuties. The cutie tangerines? I'm not going to bag on the grocery store, but it's one of my favorites that's big. Okay. Awful. Oh, really? Every single one tasted like shit. Oh, no.

And I was like, what the fuck? You know what? there does come a time in this life that unfortunately you have to be spending more or be more discerning or go to the farmer's markets to actually get the produce well this is what happens when ice takes all the good farmers you get shitty fucking cuties I mean those cuties sucked balls did my I was basically eating a dry piece of paper that was orange yeah it sucked so bad I don't know if it was actually cuties but it was the brand cuties but it was the little oranges that normally are packed with flavor because it was like an orange and a

tangerine had sex and then they were midgets. They were little people. Remember the rage of the tangelo? The tangelo? Remember the tangelo where you like rip off the top? And I remember we were so into them in the 80s and then they just like went away. Really? I don't remember tangents.

I don't even know what that is. It looked like an orange with like a little like a outy belly button. Yeah. Ripped that part off. and I don't know it's just how did we get into oranges a lot of dragon fruit up in my business

dragon fruit that's a new one that's a new fruit I know and it doesn't even taste good it just looked cool yeah it looks cool on the shelf it's like a poppy seat it's dressing up like a piece of fruit yeah exactly

tasteless I don't like it remember when they said like there used to be like 800 variations of an apple and now it's only like three oh really yeah was that what's what's that who's to blame i'm george washington i don't know i don't know macintosh yeah fuji uh uh granny granny smith yeah yeah golden yellow all right already got four pretty rattled off four i mean how many more do we need yeah all right anyway okay gwyneth paltrow's daughter

But, yeah, isn't she Apple? She is, she's Apple. So Tom Cruise gave this long speech about the magic of movies. He got an honorary Oscar, the governor's ball, I think it was, the governor's awards. And yeah, so he was given a lifetime achievement Oscar more or less with Debbie Allen, the two of them received one. And he made a, yeah, I thought the speech was great. Now, you're saying people are comparing it too. I mean, what he says was just someone.

compared it to, ironically, his former wife, Nicole Kidman's commercial that went viral a couple years ago is like, come to the movies, the AMC commercial, yeah. Where we all sit together. You feel the music and you're all surrounded. And I don't think, I don't think there was that much of a comparison. No. But if you're writing an essay on what it's like to go to the movies, there's only so much you can say that are about why you should actually go to a movie theater, which is, he's a major movie star. He wants people to be reminded. So he kind of did that whole story that every actor does. When I used to go to the movie show with my dad, you know, it was 45 cents a picture. Yeah, and I had to go deliver in newspapers to get a nickel

to go to the movement pitches. And I said, can I watch? I will say this, though. This is an old He was famous since he was like 18, you know. I'm like, when I just remember what I could say at my, when I won my Oscars, they do have a story like that. Okay. when Greece came out there was a less expensive movie theater small like only like one movie at Topanga and Ventura and um and they were only playing Greece like during the days and it was like whatever 225 to go see it and these girls and I were like we want to go again and our parents were like you've gone like 50 times and so they're like no you have to do something so we did we went around the neighborhood

and we washed cars because we said we want to go see Greece again. Wow. So that could be my Oscar speech just so people know how middle class I was.

So you washed cars to go, so you were able to earn the money to go see Greece? Yeah, we were on the south side of Ventura. Yeah. Working hard.

Yeah. Washing cars so that we could go on Ventura to the hood of Topanga could be in Ventura Woodland Hills and watch the movie for 225.

I saw Greece. like 10 times myself. I remember. Same thing. Lakeside cinema, one theater. Yeah. And it was they used to give out a popcorn raffle before the movie and the kids would go bizarre like, I got to win that popcorn. It was in a big trash bag. And people like, I got to win that popcorn and they would read off the numbers that you had on your ticket. And I remember kids like fighting to win that popcorn. And then my brother goes, you know, it's just the popcorn from yesterday. It's like the old popcorn from yesterday that he's raffling. off this guy won the theater you know well okay kids sit down everybody we're going to raffle off

the popcorn and and i finally said i told my brother i'm you're right he's just over it's stale popcorn and we're killing ourselves for it we used to or my mom if she was going to take us all to the movies yeah there were so many of us you know so you need to give us an oscars then we could tell these stories yeah we'd stop at 7-11 and she'd be like get your candy here oh good call and then they would like then they would like smuggle it like I was a mule like I was a hooker mule they would be like they're not going to check her because like they literally were checking like teenagers like are you bringing candy so they would like put it like around my body you know and then I'd have to just like hustle in because I was getting in there for free or almost free and then I'd be like what do you want

kids like all the candy there anyway so he basically just told a speech about that and and Sidney sweetie talked to him after and they have like lip-readers talking about what they talked about or something I saw that Right, probably she was like nobody went to go see my movie but I wish they had

and Yeah You know and I said what I talked about it That it looked juicy But I just don't think people Go into the movie theater But there looks She's in a good one coming out

It's my kind of movie Okay It's with that Who's the guy that just did S&L this weekend Uh You know what I mean? He and somebody else are like rich people. That's what I love.

Cindy Sweeney, you know, gets the job as like the house made, maybe not even a nanny, just literally cleaning the house because that's what housekeepers look like. I like it already. All right. And the scene I saw is the wife freaking out, who stole my notes from the PTA or whatever? And it's like December something in theaters.

Now that, especially if it's like a, gloomy, rainy day. Right. I will go to the fancy theater, the synopopalopolis, whatever over here must like. And I will get like a big Bloody Mary

at like 11. You'll see like the 11 o'clock showing. And that I'm down to do. Like that I need rich people on a rainy day, murder and fucking someone that's not their husband. That's what I want to see in a movie theater. Say no more.

I don't want to see monsters. I don't want to see, you know, too much action. Yeah. I love it. I still go, I have a problem though now because they,

you know, you can order the food and deliver the food and the seats lay back and I just think it's weird that I'm like eating chicken wings lying down. Like what am I in 800 pound life?

Yeah. Oh my God. That's amazing. A little much. Okay. Somehow this morning when I was strolling I came across

some of the most disturbing video clip from us from podcasts oh no like another podcast yeah other people's podcast yeah some of the most disturbing disgusting stuff i've ever i'm like in the comments were like how did this end up in my feed i'm like i agree do you want to hear the most disgusting and then the least disgusting i got to start with the most disgusting okay what do you mean they're doing it on camera yeah it's different it's different podcasts okay but this is this is the business we're in is what i want to tell you oh i don't need to be yet kick me when i'm down anyway go on uh there's this pretty girl

okay and she's talking to a guy which even makes it more disturbing me you're having to tell like another man who's the host right you know and he's and she's like so so please viewer discretion advice i have to tell you this but she says so the girl oh no the girl took a dump in an ice cube tray and the guy pissed in it it okay so it made and they froze it so it made cubes yeah shit shit peepie cubes they she then had to put it up her butt who did the pretty girl okay put it up her butt the cube the cube the ice cube. Yeah.

And then he penetrated her which then I guess would sort of melt it. Oh, sure. And then his girlfriend Okay. I could have barked.

Had to slurp it out. And she's doing this as a job. And she chose to go to a podcast for free and tell about it. But is she? Like this. needs to be first of all you need to die with this story yeah and second of all like save it for

your own podcast dumb dumb like what are you doing like yeah you're just like telling that story but she talked about it like so i went on a date with a guy and you know we had a Chinese chicken salad and then he asked to split the bill and i'm like red flag that's the way she told it and she's on someone's podcast she's a guess is it but is the podcast sexual in in nature what why would tell that story? I don't know. I just, I just couldn't believe it. That's shocking. And I just was like, I can't even believe that this is. And then, you know, people were just like, what world do we live? And like, why are you talking about it? Like, why is there nothing like everybody? And you just, the way that it works is this, you know, it just gets fed to you. And you're like, oh my God.

Yeah. But that's what they're doing. I had, I mean, that is the sickest, grossest stuff I have ever heard. That makes the whole Dubai laying under a coffee table. Yeah. That's glass. That's all that that you have to do to go on a yacht. Like that, this sounds worse. That's what you have to do to get on a yacht?

Obviously, the person who has it worse is not the girl that got to be the podcast. Yeah, who has it to do worse? The girlfriend of the guy. What does she have? She's the one. She's the one who had to slurp it out. Oh, no. And she had to go get the tray out and everything and make the cubes. And if this

guy has like a dinner party or something. No ice in my drink. You know what? I just I'll drink it warm. Thank you. I wonder if they did like just like an average old fashioned ice cube tray or they're doing like the fancy like ball ones for like Christmas at William Sonoma. There's like those big I hope it's the ball. It'll go up your ass easier when it's a ball. No, it has to be the little ones. Oh, I think so. Think about it. They can't do a big like ball one for like a tequila or like a fancy whiskey drink. No. The best topic we've ever done. I. Okay. So then this one is maybe not as bad as that there's more there's another one the same person no this guy Matt for wait Matt fire rec co whatever okay he's commenting on this girl oh got so he let me know what

was going on got you and she is an influencer podcaster whatever okay looks like she's you know under 30 yeah and she's talking to her girlfriend and she's people are going crazy because she did a podcast and cut a clip of it or maybe someone else did where she's like I had a real dry spell so then I entered my whole phase like

after the year of dryness or whatever and all and these guys want to use condoms what the fuck and the girl's like I know no I'm not not using a condom like enough with the condom agenda

whoa what yeah and she was because first of all it ruins the mood So I'm like, dude, now you've ruined the mood because you're looking for a condom. Yeah. And he's like, well, I'm just trying to be safe.

Oh, now you're saying, I'm going to give you a disease. Fuck you. Like what? These guys cannot win. If you approach him at a bar, they're like, you're a creeper. If they agree to have sex with you and then you're like, could we use a condom? So like, we don't give each other a disease or you don't have my baby?

Yeah. And she's like, no. And she goes, I, if she goes, and then she doubles down on it and says, if I did a group check with 16 girls and said who doesn't use condoms and hates condoms all 16 would say we all do really so girls are dating they're getting IUDs or on the pill yeah and going

condomless I didn't know that that's a trend I haven't heard about but I'm not on that scene anymore thank God yeah I'm like oh I'm sorry maybe I don't want you to be my fucking daughter-in-law like what are you talking about like no every guy this is the movement that's going to now happen which I've said men that have a few bucks or even if you don't okay

same thing girls if you got the money freeze your eggs so you're not having babies because you're feeling the pressure you can have it when you can get got it guys don't think it's a terrible idea to freeze your sperm and get a vasectomy. Because how can you protect yourself? Okay.

And then that way... Do you recommend that? Soon as girls are saying you're a dick for wanting to wear a condom, I guess. That's really the case. And you can't get laid because you want to wear a condom

and then you better... Yeah. You better protect yourself. There's a lot of people getting secret vasectomy. I always predicted that George Clooney had won. Back in 2008, I predicted it in Chelsea Lately.

Because I said, How has nobody gotten knocked up with his baby? Right. But then they had the twins with them all, and I think they did go through some type of IVF. So that would make sense. Right. So maybe he put his sperm away, got the secret vasectomy

until he was ready and met like the perfect woman. All right. But anyway. Meanwhile, lavender marriage on the rise. A lavender marriage. I don't know. You told me what that was before. It is when a.

We'll just do it in the combination of this. It's a gay man. He knows he's gay. He's out gay. This is for today. In the past, when people couldn't be out in gay, sometimes a lesbian and a gay would be like, let's marry, let's have kids. Okay. But we know we're not really sexual with each other.

Yeah. And they would secretly have this thing. Or maybe the woman would find out later that her husband was really gay, but just be like, it's fine. now that everybody's so out in the open and telling everybody what they are when they're on a podcast at nine yeah we're really out in the open from what

then they have said like they still want to have a partnership but they would love women would love to have the partnership with their gay best friend where they just there's respect and there's love and there's partnership and maybe there's raising kids maybe there's not

but they there is no expectation of sex and you know and he can go off and have his sexual relationship but he doesn't want a life partnership with a man but it's not a secret and she can do whatever she wants but then she still has a husband they have the right off they have the home they have the dual income they love to do everything together and this guy it's what is his name it's mc marty fly I think he's McMarty Fly Oh it's it's McMarty Fly

He is starting an app For people looking for Lavender marriages Oh wow Or looking for a lavender relationship Okay So gay men with straight women That there's no secrets

There's no pretending There's no trying to turn someone Sounds nice for everybody You know involved I mean it's hard out there Yeah that's what I'm saying There's apps for everything Okay so

I'd rather do that than eat a Eat an ice cube out of somebody's apps I mean, if that's what you have to do, and you have to go to a podcast and talk about it. I've got to be in a lavender relationship. I mean, there was a time where it was like all secret. I mean, you know that there's like 75-year-old well-dressed woman right now ordering a McCarthy salad at the Beverly Hills Hotel that had to do some sick shit to get there. Oh, yeah?

But we don't know about it because they didn't have a podcast in 1982. Instead, they slept their way around. Right. got divorced twice and now can enjoy their life and everyone just thinks they're a classy old lady. They're not. They were horrors too. I love it.

Good. I hope so. This guy brought up the funniest thing. Zachary Will. Okay, he's on TikTok, out gay guy. He brought out this little thing where he talked about what's going on in the gay bars and clubs. I had mentioned that I saw a couple guys say on TikTok.

Like, we don't like having the Bachelorette parties. at our gay bars we are done with the girls yeah we are done with the girls coming it's too much you're ruining our fun so he did this presentation it was literally where he had like little like different colored chips and he's like first there were here's the green here's the green chips or whatever these were all the gay guys they started to bring in their girl for their straight girlfriends oh this is fun here's a few blue girlfriends or whatever and then those girls were having so much fun it was almost like half and half

but then they brought a couple of their straight friends straight boyfriends and then those boyfriends told all the straight guys this is where it's at because the girls are happy they're feeling safe and all these other guys aren't hitting on them

so then it becomes almost like a straight club and then the gay guys are like fuck it let's go let's find another place and and then And then if they fight to try to have it back, or whatever, sometimes the whole business will just close then. Really? Yes.

And so people in the comments were like, this is so true. And then people were writing, the way to keep this is go back to showing gay porn on the screens. Yeah. That's how you keep the, that'll keep the streets out. Yeah, nobody wants to see that. If you're straight, I mean, you know, some people want to see it. I'm not saying that it's not for everybody. But, you know, I do think, I do think this.

era needs to stop. I think straights need to, you know, talk to each other at a bar and dance and party. Right. Have your bachelor's parties at go to a sports bar, meet some guys, like, that actually want to be with women and let the gays have their fun. You go to Nashville. They should, yeah, they should have their, they should. Where all the bachelorette's go.

I mean, it used to be the gay men could, you know, like, just have sex with anyone, be rich, run the world, be childless their whole life. Yeah. Then they went this whole other route. Now I think they're like, wait a minute. Let's go back to the good times. Let's just go back to being single and gay. Yeah.

Anyway, it's interesting. It is interesting. This was a crazy commercial I saw about this old commercial, NerdLife 1985 found this old commercial. This guy is like, they're not attractive people. And it must be like 1982. Yeah. And this girl's like, ah, do you got a little for me?

And then he brings out a little thing of Coke. Okay. And the commercial is you can buy, and they call it Sink Coke, like, oh, Synthcote. Synthcote, instead of Coke, you could go to write a P.O. box and send them $9.99, and they would give you a little vial of fake Coke. And flour, I think they'd call it, you know, or salt or whatever. And then the girls would think they were like, that you were like, you know, like a rich guy in the 80s that was like giving them coke. and that would turn them on, but you couldn't afford Coke.

Oh my God. That was a real thing? That's a real thing. I mean, it didn't have fentanyl and it, thank God. Those were the days. Those were the days. Those were the days.

Okay. Okay. Megan Traynor is defending her look. She has lost a lot of weight. She looks completely different. Her face, her hair. But she also said, you know, when I and people that are curvy are like, you've abandoned us girls,

you were that your anthem was like it's all about that big say I'm not no size two and now she's the size two and she's like yeah first of all I wrote that when I was 19 right and I actually have been on a fitness journey for like a decade like I realized you know I got my diabetes like all these things checked I realized like if I'm going to go on tour like I have to be more physically fit to dance around and of course you know ozempic makes this much more attainable and even easier to stick with and um but you know people are just like you look so different yeah she does i mean that's what happens obviously more of the weight loss i feel like she's gotten a nose job or something else right there seems to be a little more to it than just i just don't know that i ever

really knew what megand trader look like that much like yeah because i'm like i wouldn't know who this person is i think the blonde weird heavy bangs are like it looks like laura ingalls remember laura ingalls yeah it looks weird looks like weird doll hair but you know I don't know it was crazy everybody was so skinny at Bravo con oh from like a GLP ones or I mean they all looks good

yeah having a flat stomach looks better than having a pooch sorry right I mean I had a little I had a little pooched my little red dress when I was dancing around doing my show I'm like well you know I ate like a pig I haven't been on the shots so it's like yeah that's what I looked like

but I had a good time. That's the important thing. But I think they liked it because they work these girls so hard at BravoCon they don't have time to eat anyway. Yeah. So, you know, they all were just looking so skinny. But you said you saw some skinnies out at dinner.

I was out at the dinner last night. I went to, yeah. And it was all the celebrities were out at this restaurant I went to. What's the name of it? Anna Jack Ty. It's all the rage. Where is it? On Ventura Boulevard and Sherman Oaks.

Oh, in Sherman Oaks. Yeah. I think I've heard of it. Oh, my God. What did you get? Oh, we had a whole thing, you know. You bought a bunch of stuff. I know, but say what's the yummy stuff?

They had like pad tie with the biggest. They're famous for like their fried chicken, which sounds weird, but they are. Yeah. And was it amazing? It was amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Everything was great.

It's great. It's a great place. But I saw Jennifer Lawrence was there. Owen Wilson was there. Not together. You're different. It was pretty wild. And then we were talking.

And I was saying Jennifer Lawrence just had a movie that bombed as. well. What was hers? About a woman going through postpartum depression or something, it's apparently a very dark movie. I hadn't, you know, it's like, oh, a bond, well, of course. I mean, who's going to see that in the theaters? You know what I mean? Yeah. I'm not saying it's a bad movie, but it doesn't seem like somebody wants to go to see that. Anyway, I know what I was saying that I feel like her star has been usurped a little bit by Sidney Sweeney. Oh, yeah. It's become like the new It Girl. Same type of roles, you know, if you've got a romantic comedy, now you want to do, goofy, have a fun,

you're going to give it to her before you give the Jennifer Lawrence. I have to say, I never understood the Jennifer Lawrence hype. And I think, I do think there's something that was sinister that skyrocketed her. Oh, really? I think all those. I mean, I've heard that story, of course, but I also think she's a good actor. I think she's a good actors. I think she is good, but I remember there was the one movie that she played the wife,

not the mistress. the hustler or something the hustle yeah I remember that movie yeah and everyone was like oh my god this is so amazing and she had her hair like up and she was like dancing around in this scene

and they're like and everyone was like I've never seen anything like this and I was like and I just thought she was miscast because she not only was she significantly younger than the role I believe that what it was written for

but she looks young like she had a pudding face so I was just like this was Cassie was so weird and um i'll say this looks good in person yeah i think she taller than i thought thinner than i thought good looking yeah i mean i do think she's good looking i do think she's talented but it was one of those things that like you know where people she was like the first one at the time now everyone is like genuine is doing pratfalls and stuff to act like they're normal but she actually had like a pratfall going up to get her Oscar and you know but I mean

and she was one of those girls that was really good like with the male talk show hosts and stuff yeah I remember one time Amy Schumer had such a funny sketch where when she had her sketch show where she was being like a young girl or right you know with the creepy talk show host oh that's fun and how it was just so sexual yeah every interview was just so So, it's like, I mean, some of those David Letterman ones, did you ever see that one where he was like eating Jennifer Aniston's hair? No. And he was like, let me just,

and he's coming around. Like, Letterman? Yes. Really? Look it up. It was so, there's just so many weird things that now we just like, oh,

Barbara Walters interviews are like crazy to watch them now. They're like, what? Yeah, it's pretty, pretty nuts. At different times, you know. Anyway, this is weird and sad. These are these two. twins that two I always say two twins they're twins and they Alice and Ellen Kessler and they were in Germany they left post World War II in like 1952 and came here and were like dancer performers they

were like on the Lawrence Welk shows and all these things they're like the first late like first dancers to like show their bare legs on TV and you know they knew all like the Frank Sinatra people and everything and they went back to Germany because they have like assisted suicide as like legal. Yeah. And they both talked to them, to talk to the people, got their contract together, met with the lawyers, and ended their life on the same day at like 89. Oh. And so then a lot of comments are like, why would you do that?

Like you could live like so much longer, whatever. And then, you know, a lot of people, it's a very controversial subject. Were they sick? I mean a lot of times when people do that they have an illness that they're in pain of some kind It didn't say It was just kind of like

I don't know I think they maybe just were like Well let's not go to 90 But we want to go together We would never want to live without each other So then they just did it All right I mean

It's like I think it's so weird But anyway This is crazy This woman 62 So she and her husband she was a nurse, the husband was a pilot they had all these kids then as she got older

they would have to do like in vitro whatever but she was still giving birth and then she had her last kid like at 62 so if the egg is not the egg was not hers but she was healthy enough to give birth

so she still had some embryos she went behind her husband's back and signed his consent and put the embryos in another woman, or two different women, I think, two different women. And, um, and then, and then he was like furious and said she, I did not want to have a 14th and a 15th kid. I didn't even want the 13th. Like, this is crazy. She lives in New York, 62. So then they, um, they realized that she was, that there was fraud. So now she doesn't even have the kids and just trying to get them back and they're with the foster parents.

And I'm like, who at like 65 is trying to have more kids? Like this was, this is so creepy. This is like, yeah. Remember the other girl, the Octum? Yeah. But she had them all at once. And the kids turned out to be kind of normal. Yeah, they're all fine.

Yeah. They're like 16 now. I know. And she, um, are they 16? Close to it. 14 and 15. Yeah. And she raised them all.

I mean, she carried them all. But people need to like slow down like with this fucking. weird thing. Now this was sad. Kathy Hilton and Sutton's track while they were at BravoConn both of their homes were broken into. Here in Los Angeles? Yes. Oh no. So Sutton's was in the daytime. Okay. And the dog walker came back from walking the dog and saw that a window was broken and called the police and apparently like all of her handbags and jewelry and she had a lot of nice things was taken. And

but her house is very publicly seen on the show. Remember how Chris Jenner in the beginning they'd show that house and then people realized that wasn't the house? Yeah. I mean, they really kind of need to do that for these girls, I think. But I mean, you can find anyone's address now, unfortunately. And she's not in a gated community or anything like that.

And even Derreet said, she lives on a main road. And it is. It's a little bit of a busy street. I've been there. But very nice house. So that's really sad. And then Kathy Hilton was, gone and Rick Hilton called the police at 10 at night because there were intruders in the house

and then they left so I don't know if they got anything but like terrifying because these people knew that they were at the BravoCon really had them I feel I don't feel like people who are burglarizing homes are up on the Bravo con schedule but maybe that's how the bring the blink ring got started is they would follow like Paris and everybody and they would be posted in real time, tweeting in real time. Oh, I'm going to this event. And then they, like, live in. They do it to a lot of athletes

when they're in, like, the World Series and the Super Bowl or something. They know they're not home, and then, you know, their family will be there. They're all watching them in the World Series, and they do that, too. I've heard. Wow.

Yeah. We are back with our next guest of the show. His name is Chris Turkey Jolla. Oh, Tom Turkey? Tom, yeah. Tom, the Turkey. getting all ready for Thanksgiving, Chris. You are killing it in this outfit.

I love it. Yeah. I would like to tell everybody that I invest in my juicy scoop appearances. Oh my God, you really do. It's $25 on Amazon. So I was excited to bring it over

and discuss Thanksgiving with you. Yes. Well, are you going to make appearance as the turkey during your Thanksgiving feast? I thought about it, but we go over to my wife's family's house and I don't think they would get the joke at all. I think they would think that,

Oh, Chris, it's time to put them in a home or something. I don't think they would get it. So I did think about it. But yeah, so it's just for this. But your daughter loves it. She loves it. Yeah, she's been wearing it around the house. And it's kind of fun.

So we're all having fine. Everybody's having fun. Wait, when you're getting dressed, you're totally, and I like this one, that your daughter, there's a billboard. It's a billboard throughout Los Angeles about a woman who has insurance, she sells insurance. And I knew exactly who you meant. It's called Adriana's insurance.

And she's pretty, first of all, I think she's Persian. but people always would ask me back in the day if I had any Persian in me or whatever so I think she's very attractive and clearly very successful so if I myself can't be on buses and stuff at least I look like a lady that is on one yeah so every time we pass it my daughter goes

look Heather McDonald's billboard and I'm always at one point I thought you really did have but I was like maybe she does have a billboard and then she pointed it out and I'm like that's not Heather anyway I wanted you to know that so okay so do you bring a dish or anything we do an apple pie that we bring we're kind of famous for it so we make a whole day out of it what kind of apples since we spoke about apple what kind of apples do you buy for geez i don't know i don't

know what apples go you're green ones i think oh you do the green so it's a little soury but and we do like a little machine that we have that takes all the skin off the apple that's the key got to make sure all the skins off the apple because if you bite into any skin while you're eating apple pie it's a there's a whole process to it i just i'm like an assist from scratch or you buy all scratch all scratch i don't do anything i just she does how you do it yeah yeah yeah yeah that's good yeah do any nuts or crumble or anything with it no like a what do they call it a lattice you know oh uh the top oh how you take yeah yeah yeah yeah we do that i that is impressive i know thank you uh where are you heading for thanksgiving here here oh you're staying we're having thanksgiving we're

hosting it this year okay yeah oh people are coming over yeah i've done i've always have people I've been doing it for... But at this house. This will be the first time at this house. Okay. Yeah. And, you know, I don't know. I hope it goes well.

Do you want me to lend my costume to Peter? Yeah, that'll be fun. So you got to do all the cooking and everything? We'll see. Yeah. I wanted to get the sides brought in. Yeah. He does not.

Right. And we just haven't talked about it since. Do you have any, like Thanksgiving, do you watch the, like, the Macy's Day Parade? Have you read anything about that? All the people who are going to be on it, all the new floats or anything. Why? What's exciting news? Nothing, you know, just exciting.

There's a couple of new floats. I mean, we'll probably just, I told people, you know, I hate that it gets dark so early. So I like having more like an afternoon. Martha Stewart just said, uh, 2 o'clock. 2 o'clock is the time you need to be eating dinner at 2 o'clock on Thanksgiving. That's what Martha Stewart just said. Well, okay, I think too slightly a little early. Okay.

But I like the idea of like telling everyone to get there by one. Okay. Because that means they'll get there by two. Yeah. So I think we're, yeah, like 12 one, whatever. I'd like to, we do the Thanksgiving circle to say what we're thankful for. Yeah. And.

What are you thankful for this year? Oh, my God. I mean, I'm thankful for living here. Oh, wow. It's nice. I love my new neighborhood and thankful that, you know, all the kids are doing great and my nieces and nephews and cousins and that's probably what I'll say. It's just I'm happy that everybody's like thriving.

I'll tell you what I'm not happy about. Oh, yeah. That's probably more fun. It was something that I somewhat predicted last week. Okay. When I talked about BravoCon. And I said, well, I'm not, I don't know that I'll actually. actually going to the convention, which I did not.

I go, but it's difficult. And I said, please, audience, you know, please do scoopers that are going to bravo con. Give the girls and the guys and the bravo so there's a little bit of grace. If you run into them and they're rushing off somewhere else and, you know, because they have set times where you pay to take photos with them. They treat them like Disney characters. And then there's times where you might see them in an elevator,

have them walking to, you know. And just give them. some grace. Right. Well, sure enough, I'm starting to watch all the stuff come out. And I saw one person criticized that a housewife was wearing Lulu Lemons and a jean jacket in the lobby of her hotel. Oh, is that bad?

I don't know. Why can't she, like, it's her hotel. Like, if she's not on stage, on stage or at the bravo con, con, why can't she walk around and get a coffee? It's her hotel lobby. Like, this is like, the fact that these people thought that you were supposed to be on, literally every second of every day. Like, there is no celebrity that is seen for three days

where you have, if you don't give them all access to you still, every second. So anyway, I'm at the M. Jim Grand where my show is. I am not part of BravaCon. I am not being whisked off in a golf cart. And, but I said, look, you know, I'm going to do my best to say hi to everybody. I did get stopped by many people. I didn't make me in group, but throughout the four days, I saw people, Heather, we saw your show, photo, no,

sunglasses, ugly, I did the photo with everybody. So this gets brought to my attention that this person. Oh, no. Wants to share what a bitch I was. Oh. I'm not going to say her name. No. But she said, hold on.

Oh, well, anyway, she mentioned, I'll summarize it, that she saw me at the MGM Grand and I was so rude to her in the elevator. Oh, well, in the elevator. When she said hi. Yeah. Now, I don't remember that at all. I never remember being an elevator with a juicy scupor. I do remember people being like, hi, Heather.

And sometimes when people don't ask for a photo, I think that, like, there's been times where people don't ask for a photo and I've had a friend that's like, want a photo? And they're like, no. So like, I don't go, let's get a photo unless you're asking. Sometimes I do. But I think when they're just like, hey, Heather, I think that they aren't looking for more.

Yeah. Okay. So anyway, she said, you know, at least a. hand wave or a smile would have been nice. I didn't stop. I didn't stop to chat. I was exiting the elevator and she was getting on. And I said, hey, Heather.

And she just totally ignored me. Wow. So there's a group of people coming off the elevator and I'm getting on. Yeah. And I somehow missed, hey, Heather. I have a joke in my act from like, whatever, eight years ago where I thought the Starbucks person was calling me Heather, but they were saying hi there. So I don't know if she.

I could have thought that this girl was saying hi there to like someone behind me I'm not walking around expecting to be recognized I didn't I had a very easy time

walking around MGM Grand lots of people didn't know who the fuck I was whatever that it was fine yeah so I mean they asked

do you want security I don't know I just want it just for the night just to go to the night club that's all I want I don't need it walking around

and coffee the day after before like I'm not that so anyway I just wrote her back Oh, you did? Yeah, because it, no, it bothered me. Like, because, and throughout the thing. You're not going to say this during the thankful speech at the family, right?

During this little post, some people said, I find this hard to believe. I met her. She's lovely. You know, other people I personally know, I saw their name in there being like, what are you talking about? Like, you know. Yeah. And then some were like, oh, I've heard she's a bitch and this and that.

And I'm like, I don't want to say. So then I just said, hi, her name. I remember taking lots of picks with juicy scoopers throughout my four nights at MGM. My show was Friday all day I was running around preparing. We were up and out of, in and out of elevators all day. If you said hi at an elevator and I was running to my room, I still would have said hi back and I never say no to a photo. So anyway, when do you want to meet up? That's great.

Maybe she can come over for Thanksgiving. I mean, I think that's what they want. And then probably. they'd be like, I got invited to Heather's for Thanksgiving. And, you know, after six hours, she was like, well, thanks for coming. And I'm like, really? Right. I thought we'd at least go to the seventh hour.

Like, yeah. I mean, with some people, you just cannot win. It is interesting. You know, I'm one of the most famous turkeys in the world. Everybody knows that. And yeah, I have to take a lot of pictures as well. I'm sure you do. Yeah.

They don't care that you're going to be killed. No, nobody. They just sit and eat me. and nobody seems to care they uh it's it's it's it's interesting that they never think that they might be annoying you know what I mean yeah you ever think that people like oh that guy was an asshole that celebrity or whoever had there was a bitch and I'm like but maybe you were annoying you know what I mean that a lot of times that's the case drunk or whatever you know what I mean I'm not saying this person again it wasn't my meet and greet that I was rude at yeah it was

not even the day of the show and I'm getting in out of an elevator of a whole different hotel I'm at the convention center. I'm not getting paid by BravoCon. And this other girl I just saw told a long story of how she met one of the stars of the valley and wanted to tag along to the next party. And the girl's like, well, why don't you stay here and we're going to come back here anyway

because it's our hotel. Like people that weren't staying at this hotel, they're all staying at the four seasons, kept going there breakfast, lunch, and dinner to try to see them and get their photos. So like they never even had a break to like, be off at their hotel without them doing

saying they're rude and then and so then this girl goes I mean how rude I'm like why would they want you to like get in the car with them

they just met you yeah she was like hey we'll come back and see you guys like she was being cool and then the girl's like and she was real drunk

oh why you're not allowed to be drunk in Vegas no this other girl from the valley but I'm like you're not allowed to get drunk after you're working

for three days making like $2 $2 yeah Sorry, it's midnight in Vegas. I saw Heather and she was drunk. I would hope I'd be drunk midnight in Vegas. What the fuck are you doing at midnight in Vegas? Like I just am like, I knew it would happen.

I predicted it. That's why I said it last week and just looked up who was rude on TikTok and all these people are saying, oh, this person was nice and this person, you know, was distracted or didn't look me in the eye. I'm like, my God. Yeah. You want to, uh, whatever. So I know it's hard with you as a turkey. Yeah, I mean, thank you for bringing that up again.

Yeah. Because I think that, um, you know, there's been movements to get away from turkey on Thanksgiving. But then by doing that, it really lowers your fame. Mm-hmm. So when you talk to other turkeys, do what do you think? Do you think we stick with your bird? Do we switch to chicken?

Do we go like a vegan thing? Uh, I believe, uh, as, a turkey that we should continue with turkey. It's put us on the map. We've become more famous than we've ever been. For many years, we were just walking around as just a big ugly bird. And now everyone loves us with a little gravy. You were talking earlier about a woman who was stuffed with a poo-poo. Yes, yes. And as a guy who's been stuffed pretty much every year, I would like to say that I feel for that woman. And I hope that she gets to help she needs. Now, that's another controversial thing that's happened over the years with

turkeys. My mom would make the most delicious stuffing and stuff it in the turkey. And then about 20 years ago there became another propaganda that media said you cannot put the stuffing in the turkey

saying that that is not okay and that you'll get salmonella whatever poisoning. But I never got salmonella and the stuffing has never been as yummy as when my mom shoved it up you. Yes. Do you think it's okay to go back to shoving the stuffing in the turkey? Yes, I believe you can. I believe, you know, salmonella, risk it all. I think you should risk it because it feels good. It's like it's like breast implant. So it's like breast implant. There was a time

where they, they said silicon. Then they said no, you need saline. And then they said actually silicon's fine. Yeah. Yeah. So what more thing about the turkey? My tits are real. I just I don't want to know that. I mean, I feel like this is an exclusive interview. Not a lot of people get me. I don't do a lot of talk shows. I'm like,

like Daniel Day Lewis, you know. Thanks for not going to Nick Vial first. I just want to say that. I'm very private. Another question. Yeah. Why is it that, you know,

it's so fun to cook a turkey, but we only do it at Thanksgiving. I'm always like, why don't I do this like two months from now and have real turkey? again. Yeah, that's true. You get turkey throughout the year, whether it be turkey burgers or sliced turkey, but you don't cook a turkey. Nobody cooks a turkey themselves. Why is that? I encourage more of it. I encourage turkey for not only Thanksgiving. I encourage it for

Christmas as well. I like it for Christmas. Yeah. And many of the Valentine's Day cook a turkey for your lover. Um, what and on and on? What sides do you think really are staples and ones that have like tried to weasel their way into the table that you don't think should be there. Well, I believe a lot of, number one side, of course, is stuffing, I believe. Mashed potatoes, we have a number two. And I don't know if you consider gravy aside or is that just... Oh, we always need gravy. Yeah, of course.

You need gravy. And then you get the other ones where it's like a green bean salad with the French onion, you know, the crispy onions on top. My mom only did it the can way. Not until I married Peter did I even know that green beans were actually. non-canned, that you could get a real green bean at the store. Yeah, yeah, like, I thought they were only canned. Libbies, I believe, was the brand or, yeah, uh-huh, sure, sure.

And I have to say, the mushy canned, kind of tasty. Well, that's the same way with the cranberry sauce. I don't know if you, do you do just canned ocean spray out of the can? I like, no, I like, okay, there's a Costco cranberry that like comes in a tub. Okay. Also, there's a William Sonoma, very fancy cranberry. But it has the bits of cranberry. like that. I don't like that. Okay. A lot of people don't. Yeah. They like a can sliced with the ridges. Yeah, with the, you could see the can on it. Yeah. How do you, where do you go with corn in this? How do you feel about corn? I like it. I like, I eat corn as a turkey. It's part of my diet. I saw there's a recipe also at William Snowboard for a corn pudding casserole, which that sounds kind of yummy. That does sound kind of good. That sounds like better than just like some roasted corn on the side. Like you've got to jazz it up. You wouldn't have so much fucking butter.

yeah on that day like everything has like sticks and sticks of butter yeah sweet potatoes or yams and what's the difference it's like alligator and uh yeah yeah I don't

I honestly don't know the difference between one of the other do you like a sweet potato I do I do do you like it once again buttered up or do you like it like in a dish a mashed mashed mashed yeah

my mom had a dish that was like apricots pecans yeah and like goop-to-goop and then like and then like the canned yams yeah and she's dead and that is one recipe i would absolutely make again i just don't know how to make it i know someone's going to know i know some juicy you write me and give it to me well um as a turkey thank you it's very hard

to travel as a turkey be a stand-up as a turkey you have to bring your equipment yeah the footwork is hard. It is, yeah. It's hard to do your meet and greets. Yeah. But where can they touch your feathers? As a matter of fact, this is going to be on Thursday. I'll be in Albuquerque, New Mexico, tonight. Albuquerque, New Mexico, hyena is tonight. And then tomorrow night I'm in Santa Fe, New Mexico. Wait, hold on. Thursday. This Friday, right, right. So this Friday, which is 21. Yes, I'm in November 21, you're where? Unit B in Santa Fe, New Mexico. Thursday, I'm at Albuquerque. Hyena's in Albuquerque. Got it. Yes.

And then I have the Vermont Comedy Club in December 4th, the Vermont Comedy Club, and off-cabbit comedy club in Beverly, Massachusetts, the 5th and 6th, like December 5th and 6. Franjola.com. Fun has everything. I love it. And then New Year's Eve, I'm at the La Jolla comedy store in La Jolla, California. Perfect, New Year's Eve.

I know, perfect, yeah. Love you, Chris. You're always such a delight. Thank you for having me. Gobble, gobble, gobble, go ahead. Chris Vangelio. Happy Thanksgiving, everyone. Have a great time with your family and friends.

And, uh, you know. Chris Vanjala. com, cover to cover. Check out his Patreon. Everything for me is at Heather McDollum. Dot net. Instagram. I got a lot of Instagram followers.

Oh, good. Always follow him on Instagram. He's so funny and you post all the time. That's just at Chris Fangola. And I, of course, I have my, um, streamer from, from this week in, from BravoCon. and you will still have until the end of Friday to watch it. If you have not seen it, a lot of people are buying it this week and enjoying it.

You just go to Heather MacDonald.net and you click on the tour and it's there and you can stream it and watch it for the next like 48, 50 hours. Did you have those impressionist girls on with you? Yes, I had Andrea Lopez doing Teresa and I have Anna Royceman as Bethany Frankel. And they were great. They were so funny.

And they were so sweet. And then, of course, I had branding Julie doing all like the housewife hot talk. It was great. Thank you. Love you. Bye.