Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Chris Franjola on Taylor Swift, And Just Like That and AI Girlfriends

Episode Date: August 19, 2025

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Hannah McDonald's Juicy Scoot Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop I have your favorite blue-eyed father of the year, fresh from Iceland. Chris Ferangelo, welcome back to Juicy Scoop. Happy to be back. Happy to be back in America. And very exciting. He brought a special guest with him.

Following in my footsteps, he's got Beckett pulling topics for us right now. Beckett is out in the living room. She's on her iPhone coming up with juicy topics for us. Yeah. I don't know if you guys are like anything like me. Well, you're out of the woods on this one. But every now and again, you get a week where there's no school and no camp or anything. And that's what I'm in right now.

No school, no camp. My wife's at work. So I'm, I got to drag her around, you know. She is so cute. Yeah, thank God, right? Very, very. She has the best of both of you guys. She's got like a super cute smile, but then she has your wife's like tan skin and golden hair.

I know. Thank God. She's got my wife's skin, not my old Irish skin. yeah so uh very cute yeah she's very cute she's cute and and yeah it's so she's got today coming with me on errands and how kids love you know kids love to to do mindless you know the cleaners and the bank i just remember there was a time that i guess my my mom was like remodeling or something yeah and i remember i woke up like on a saturday and i said please mom please tell me today is not a carpeteria day you're a carpenteria yeah and she's like no the house is done

And I was like, oh, because it just had felt like, because I was that youngest kid that, like, had to go, everybody was on school. I was, like, going to carpeteria and, you know, all these places. I remember it, like, yeah. Because we were going like, like, no, the living room's done now. We don't have to go back to carpetia. I remember not wanting to go into, like, the mall with my mom and just sitting in like a hot car for hours. There was no, you know, my daughter was watching a phone right now. We didn't have that.

We just stared straight ahead. Right. Or you would hide in those. right and things and get lost that was a big fun thing to do my scariest moment was we were at the home home depot okay like with a contractor or something and drake went missing oh no and i mean i was immediately like screaming go to the front of the store don't let him leave done i'm freaking out freaking out and he was in between like the interior doors all the choices of interior doors that you could choose yeah oh okay and every time that's happened to

anybody I know when they find their kid, they think it's like hilarious that you're screaming and hysterical. And then you find them and they're like, sorry. Well, these days it's a little different, you know, because I know it's why. And you know, my mother-in-law always tells me that my daughter's got a very traffical face. I mean, he doesn't say it in those words, but kind of. I'm like, what are you saying? I just don't think she'll put pictures of her online. I'm like, I really don't. I don't. And she's like, yeah, because she's got like a look. And I'm like, What's her look? You know, she'd be a great young trafficked child.

Which is good. In a way, a weird compliment, you know? I know. I mean, it's like, it's in the same thing when I said. And then when you realize, like, I just remember, like, the day I realized that, like, the boys are too big to be kidnapped. Yeah, that's good. It's a huge relief, which you will never get over with the daughter.

I don't think so. They're never, ever. They're always, they're always kidnappable. Right, right. Tell you get to my age. But then they're always kidnappable. But a boy, like, physically can kind of, like, grow out of it. And then you can have that.

Then you have to worry about. That's good to know. Then you have to worry about them kidnapping somebody because they're men. That's a whole other problem. The worst enemy. Yeah, right, right. Okay, let's talk about Iceland. Did you love it?

My friend just went and had, like, the greatest time. It is amazing. It's unbelievable. It's amazing. You're in the middle of, like, nowhere. I mean, I'm sure a lot of people have gone. I have, like, tourism's their biggest thing. It's like 400,000.

people in the whole country. So there's, you drive for hours without seeing anybody and then just waterfalls and sheep and it's just crazy. So it was a good trip for a five-year-old girl.

It was, I'm not much of like adventure guy. Yeah. Like when you go on vacation, do you want to do nothing or something? Well, you know, Peter right from the start with someone that always like planned stuff.

And I remember my sister Shannon was like kind of jealous in a way because her husband is, you know, Beverly Hills, Joe Goldstein. Sure, sure. So is my wife. He likes to go to like a four seasons, get the cabana the entire week, and not leave. Right.

And she's like, and at a certain time, I mean, kind of we see a dolphin. You know, like, she would just be like, and I'm like, Shannon, you're the nicest husband. Who cares? But no, we would do a good mix of things. Okay, that's good. My biggest regret, which I've talked about is when Drake was two months old, Peter was like, I got a great deal at the Ritz Carlton in Maui. And we're going to go to the top of the whatever it's called Honolulu, whatever.

And then you see the sunrise and then you ride these bikes down. Okay, I've heard of that. And we were so at the far end. So they picked us up at 1.45 a.m. Yeah. By the time we got up there, it was in January, it was hailing. So we couldn't go down. And we shouldn't because later on the trip, I met a woman who's like,

oh, I have to come here every year for depositions because I saw someone become a quadriplegic on the ride down. And I was like, thank God. hailed. Oh, my God. And so, and I remember, like, in the car, we pick up another person because we have to go to a hotel, hotel. And this guy's like, oh, my wife's not joining. And I remember being like, that's so sad. She doesn't know what she's missing. Like, I'm such an adventurous young wife. Yeah. So yeah, we would do the scuba diving and we would do things. Now I'm like, I don't want to leave the resort. Or if you, if it's a beautiful house that you're renting, I'm like, why are we leaving the mansion? That's where I'm at now. But at a place like that, you've got to do all the things. There's nothing. But I mean, every, single, we did 15, I put on a helmet more times on this trip than I've never put on a helmet in my life. Everything we did required a helmet of some sort of climbing a mountain, horseback riding. I had a horseback incident. I've ridden a horse three times. Okay. This is not a joke. I've written a horse three times. Well, most people, if you're not like an equestrian. I've been bitten twice. Really? Twice. Do you think they think you're one of them with those teeth?

You know, good very well be. I mean, I've literally been bitten twice in the back by horses. Another horse, so you're on a horse and another horse bites you? For some reason where I grew up to be like the neighbors, they were like, I lived that grew up in an era where people just had pets in their backyard that weren't dogs and cats. They had like pigs and it was a, you know, in the 70s, there were no rules. No. If you wanted a pig in your backyard, you could have it. Do you know my friend had a horse in her backyard?

Yeah. Right up the street from Target and Woodland Hills. That is not, that is not zoned for horses. So did Ron Concoma. These people had horses in their backyard. lots of them and then one day they were just gone like where's the horse and he didn't just don't ask questions who knows where the horse is there wasn't even a shout the door they just did they just they're like tied to a tree no corral or anything anyway uh I got bitten by that horse

one time and then I got bitten by a horse at the at my uncle's trainer at Belmont park so then I get on this horse in in Iceland and I know the moment it comes out the woman's like we need a bigger horse because you're a big guy okay and the horses are little They call Icelandic horses. They're kind of smaller. Oh, that's cute. So she'll bring out the biggest one they have. And I could see it's a problem already.

It's bucking all over the place. We go on and we have a nice ride. It's got to going a little crazy. And I can see the woman's eyes. She's getting nervous. She's like, this horse, it's not supposed to be acting like this world, but a mountain going through lakes and rivers.

In my head, I'm like, I must look like Yellowstone, you know? Yeah, yeah. But then I got a helmet on and my wife's thinking pigs. I'm like, don't. I look like, this doesn't look this is not Kevin Costner with the big helmet on so anyway I get off the horse at the end and the horse just bolts and breaks through the fence and runs off and the woman's like I've never seen what you're off of it at that point thank God I had just gotten off I just pulled my foot out of

the stirrup if it was second earlier it would have I would have been tumbling through that horses have some weird like psychic ability and like sense that you were never a friend of horses I that's what I that's what people have told me that they could sense your nervousness or whatever which I'm not people like are nervous on a horse I'm like yes I'm nervous on a horse they're three thousand pounds and they're after Christopher Reeve yeah I know I mean of course I'm nervous on a horse they don't eventually they're you know we all see those videos of like an elephant just one day at the circus because you know what fuck it right you never know when they're going to pull that all right you're always like yeah we never yeah it was the nicest guy in the

nicest elephant at the zoo no I was so I've never seen him do that before. That's because it's the first time. Yeah, yeah. So anyway, but you've done it before you wouldn't be hanging out. Yeah, it would have been glue. So anyway, it was, but it was, it's wonderful and it's amazing and it's, you know, it's a lot of, but it's so nice to come home after a trip like that because you're in foreign, every hotel's tiny, every, there's no like nice hotels. You're in cabins in the mountains. Well, I had a very famous Hollywood weekend. Oh my God. Right in my own backyard, literally. Really? Yes. So Friday night, came. And my friend who lives out here in this Westlake area, a thousand oaks westlake area that I live in

now, she said, are you going to Jamie Fox's party tonight? Well, Jamie Fox, I talked to at Nobu. We did exchange numbers. We did talk at Fourth of July. And I thought, wait, wait, wait, wait. So you see Jamie Fucked at Nobu, Nobu Malibu? Nobu Malibu. Okay. And how do you get the point we were exchanging numbers? Well, he was sitting with somebody I know. Okay. and i wasn't going to walk up to him or anything but then he saw me and he's like hey and we've never met but i just think he recognizes me from whatever everything whatever and so i'm like you know we've never met before but but but he's like no i know and i said i heard that you live in my neighborhood and you have the nicest boat in west lake and da da and he's like yeah oh my god let's

you got to come on building the stage at my house for to like do stand up okay so then my friend says, are you going to this party tonight? And I had no plans. Right. I had had, I was sitting on, I was going to just have a mellow weekend. I was on my first glass of Rumbauer at six o'clock in my backyard. This is this Friday. Here, this is this Friday. And I'm like, so I text him. And I'm like, how am I not invited to your party tonight? And he's like, oh, you are. Da-da-da. Then this guy calls me and he's like, the handler or whatever. And he's like, you're at the gate. Call me when you get here. all the stuff. So then my friends knew somebody and they were invited. I get in the car and they're all wearing neon clothes and they're like, it's a pickleball party. I'm like, it's a pickleball party at Jamie

Fox. What are you talking about? So we get there. He owns the best paddle company. He has like so many businesses. He has so many awards. Like the awards were just in this glass case. I was just looking at all of them, BETs, Emmys, like, it was amazing. Well, yeah, he's Oscars. We're Oscars, everything. So we get to, and it's this huge property. And is it here? Like within this?

It's like, go outside of this community and, like, drive six mormonants. And it's like its own gate. Yeah. And so then I go down, they have a DJ. He has four pickleball courts. Courts going. People are playing pickleball in the dark wearing neon. Why?

Is that a thing you do in pickleball neon? I just think it was like because it was dark and it made it fun. Yeah. So then I go get some food. I don't know where my friends are. They're, like, playing pickleball, whatever. And... So you're there alone or are you next?

My friends picked us up. My friend's husband was sober. He drove. Okay. The other girls were pretty buzzed from, like, drinking prior. And they're, like, playing pickleball, and they're, like, tennis players, so they're, like, pretty good and stuff. I did not have, like, my proper pickleball gear, though I have improved.

You're not, like, overly dressed. You're not, like, in a gown. I'm wearing a black romper with Gucci tennis shoes. because I thought I'd be like casual him. You could still pull off a good one. But it was really kind of to promote this thing and it was very casual. But there was tons of food and everything

and a bartender and all that. And I was kind of like, okay, you know, well, I'm like, is he even here? And this guy is like, who knows? And I was like, okay. So then, but then Jamie comes over to where I'm eating food. And he's like, come over here. And he shows me the stage.

And there was just like four other people there. And then we talked for like 20 minutes. and he told me as like whole life story of like how he got discovered and um how you know how hard it was to like try to get any stage time i thought he knew um keenan before he did not so he was just straight up auditioning and then i'm like you have to tell me the backstory behind my favorite character which is wanda yeah which is the overly confident unattractive girl and and i'm like you must have known someone like and he's like yes you know and then and And he's like, I did it in the audition or something, or I did it.

And then, and then Keanu was like, put this wig on. And that's what it became. And the cross-eyed and like all that. So that was super fun. Very, very nice. Total gentleman, like totally great, nice to everybody. I've heard very nice things about it. Yeah.

And he had his classic hat that he, like, always wears now. Yeah. That's kind of like wide brim. And so then we left. Then the next day, Drake writes his friend who works here at the club and says, Would you like to golf later today? And he goes, well, it's a little crazy because Obama's here today. I'm like, wait, what?

So Obama was with his friends playing. And I said, you got to have him let us know when he's coming up on our hole because our backyard overlooks one of the holes. And so sure enough, they came up. And, you know, he's got his swagger the way he walks. and once he got the hole in I clapped and they all kind of laughed and then I said good job

and he waved he was a delight and then later on we went to golf and they were finishing and so the Secret Service were there but it was very chill like Secret Service and stuff was there but it was not like obstructing anybody's time like he was very low key

and then like his friend found his ball and then I heard like his voice like on the plot thickens like it's just like Obama and then I realized that Obama and my husband Peter are living the same life. They are both golfing. Retired more or less. And their wives have to do podcasting. Oh yeah. Nothing has changed. They're literally the same

one person ran the country for eight years and the other one. They're at the same spot. They're doing the exact. They're at the same level of success. Yeah. Both graying at this point, you know, a little older, both having a good time golfing, making a chuckle with a few friends. Good. Good. Yeah. All nice. Um, okay. And then. What a, that is. That is. a pretty good weekend. It's the end of summer. I know many of us are feeling that that dry heat, everything we've been through, our hair and our skin most likely have really suffered. That is why I love the IRIS story elite plus the Illumina face mask bundle. Okay, this is so easy. So easy to use. You guys are absolutely going to love it. There's infrared red light that helps

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And then yesterday was just chilled, just preparing for you. Because I was still recovering from, you guessed it, the end of and just like that. Well. Thursday night, we watched it. Let's just get into. I watched it this morning. Okay, you watched it this morning. Yeah.

Now listen, for the people that say, I have not watched, but Heather, I enjoy your recaps. Very few say stop talking about it. We are going to tell you what happened in this episode because it was so horrific. And it's 100% clear now that this was not a planned finale like Michael Patrick King said. They got told, this is what I think happened.

They had their 10 episodes done ready in the can. Yeah. And about episode three or four, they got word. this is your last season. Right. And then from there, they took the last six or whatever and chopped them up to give it two more.

Yes. And kind of rearranged it and did not tell any of the other cast or anything. I think everybody, because I've heard like costume designers, everybody found out when we found out. Right. This is the end.

But now, I'm not sure that they got a, like, because it's a hit on HBO. It is a hit. Yeah, like it does well in the ratings. So who made the call that we're done?

It had to be, It couldn't have been HBO, because HBO's got to be happy with the success of it. So it has to be either her or Michael Patrick King or somebody else has to say, I think we've done it all here. I mean, I think in entertainment a lot, it's sort of like a mutual goodbye. Right. And I do think it's an extremely expensive show. Right.

Now, they had one scene that was beautiful to look at as a girl, which was a bridal fashion show stunning area natural light coming through all these gorgeous models gorgeous dresses all the girls are attending the fashion show looking stunning everyone's dressed impeccably and it was like a two minute scene yeah and i said that scene was millions of dollars right so i i appreciated the scene it was like the one gift as a girly girl that i liked that we were dying for but i think those yeah i think was a very expensive show and the rumors are she's going to take it somewhere else she can do the character somewhere else she um they own it or whatever i don't know they can do other things they can take out of their places they could do another movie or it never comes back and she did say in an

interview um she knows she said playing carry was such an extraordinary job and you have to honor it sometimes it seems like anathema to say what does that mean anathema to say we're not going to do more, but if you love something, you know where to leave it sometimes. And then she also just said, I didn't listen or watch the comments. And it was extremely successful. And I don't really care. Right. And I'm like, I think that's great that you didn't hear me bitch about it for three years. I do. No. Yeah. I mean, don't read the comments on anything. That's a good, you know, I mean, I think it's a great way to be. I will say, I think that she did get some work done in between season two and three. She finally learned the power of a side part.

Side part and blowing out her hair and keeping it blonder and putting on some self-tanner or tanning makeup on her body. I thought she never looked prettier. Yeah. The outfits, of course, were crazy. But I do think she looked great in this last season. But people brought up, she was never like funny. She was never happy for this whole thing. It wasn't the silly carry we knew it was now that I finished this season and it was shockingly bad horrible and I tried I gave it my all to like it I did not go into each episode going I'm gonna hate this right ridiculous show I'm this is going to be the one that turns me around totally and it just kept getting worse and worse and I was trying to put my finger on what exactly is the problem okay and I think it's

everybody over there just got lazy I think that's what it was I think they were like we don't care anymore, the writers, whoever, their actors. I mean, it's some of the worst acting I've ever seen. Outside of the stars. Harry? Oh, my God. That woman.

Rock. If I never have to hear that Evan Handler, her husband, talk about his dick ever again, it'll be too soon. Because if I got to hear him go, I'm hard. Like, I'm like, oh, my God. It doesn't work, yeah. Yeah, I just.

And the balls, and I have a big ball. I have one big ball. hard dick. It was a for a show where the audience is way predominantly women. Yeah. I mean, yes, there's a percentage of gay men, but it was a woman's show. The other thing is, nobody was going to start watching and just like that. That wasn't already a huge fan of sex and the city. It was not a new audience.

So that is why I don't know why they didn't think to go a much easier, more fun route, which is Kim Cottrell doesn't want to be in the show, fine. Focus on the three girls. Have something. that brings them together more often, even though they're women in their 50s. Maybe they work on a charity. Maybe there is that diner that they always went to or something.

But bringing them and then they would recall their crazy date. And there would be a quick snippet like sexicity of like an awkward, she's getting a hot flash while trying to have sex with someone new because she's in men and pause. Whatever. We don't need to see it actually happening. It would be funnier just for her to say it and then like just a weird cut. And then they could have used. the actual guest stars

that played the roles previously, not get guest stars and then have them be something else and act like we're not going to remember when everybody that's watching the show has watched Sex and City episodes multiple times. And then you could have had the guest star

like, let's say the guy that broke up with her with a post-it. Yeah. Post-note. Like then you have fun stories where it intertwines, which would happen, which does happen now that I'm this age, my friend will be like,

do you remember so-and-so from college? So it'd be the same thing. thing, Charlotte would be like, oh, my God, you're going to die who Lily's taking to prom. Post it, guys, son is taking my daughter to prom. The person that broke your heart, Carrie. And then she's like, do you even think that he remembers you as my friend? I don't know. And then it could be like Facebook and it's carrying it to suddenly show up.

And then it would just be one episode. That's it. Yeah, I know. One episode, that's it. This was too much of like story, big long storylines. When if you look back at the old show, it was just really snippets of dating and things. And I was also trying, I think, I don't, you know, I watched the old one, but I don't remember it vividly. But they were trying way too hard to be funny, way too hard.

And it really wasn't a funny show before. It was juicy. I mean, it was almost like slapstick comedy with what's her face and, you know, like her falling down on the naked person in the art thing. And it was just like, as an actor, she must be like, what are you doing? What, why do I have to, and then the shit in the bowl. Oh my God. So then we, okay, so the final episode is, it's Thanksgiving. And I said, well, that's good.

It'll be a Thanksgiving where they kind of all end up together somehow. But no, it was the opposite. It was about, and the woman realized she wasn't alone. She was rather on her own because she ends up being alone eating some. I mean, do you imagine reading a 400 page novel where you never know the person's name, where it's always just the woman, the woman, the woman, like, you'd lose your fucking mind. And so they go and she's, now she's the pie lady. I'm always known as the pie lady at Thanksgiving. And she's picking up pies everywhere because it's like the one charity that

she wants people to realize Kara was a good person. She bought pies and let them rot during COVID. Like, what the fuck? So that she's, and she's delivering the pie like out of a box, just giving it to somebody with like dust getting on it in between cabs. Just gives everybody with pies. And then she gets there. And then Miranda's, you know, the juicy story of Brady getting someone pregnant is great. Also, it would have been juicier if Lily, who's this accomplished pianist and perfect child, is the one that got not done. That would have just been more fun, but whatever. And in comes, you know, a Nepo baby who is Ben Stiller's daughter.

Which one? She's playing the pregnant girl. Oh, that's Ben Stiller's daughter? Yes. Really? Yes. and so Ben Stiller and his wife

Yes, Christina Taylor Christine Taylor, yeah Christine Taylor which is funny because essentially that actress's grandmother Helen Mirren played Braine's grandmother And Mary's grandmother.

And Mirren, sorry Ann Mirren played Steve's mom Yeah, that's right So if you're going to do that in real life with real actors, I'm just saying it could have been way more fun for the person in the middle America if you just did it with the real people

that played the characters from 20 years ago make another guest spot. But also, she's got a couple of guests with her at the Thanksgiving. Oh, so the guests come. The worst. I mean, everything about it is just so bad. I'm going to say something that.

Like the gay guy, why would he just write to people's faces go? You're ugly, Ginger. Ew, it's a no, because this is what I think. Okay, this is a controversial take. Go ahead. Michael Patrick King is, the creator of it, taken from the book of Candace Bushnell. And he is an out-gay, white man who's successful in New York.

He is the top of the pyramid of the LGBTQIA pyramid. Okay. And I don't think he really likes queer people. Okay. I think, or Gen Z people. Right. Because every queer character, gay character, was unlikable. Like, you could have Leverne, if you wanted to like, let, hey,

Let's have some different diversity here. Have Laverne Cox be the, the, um, realtor for one episode. Yeah. And be fabulous and gorgeous. And it wouldn't even matter that she was a trans woman. Like, who cares? Right. But they made Che Diaz so unlikable and unfunny, even though I like those episodes.

And every time she spoke, it had to be about her sexuality. I'm the non-binary. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like instead of just being like, oh, she's dating this person. And then, so then we get. these three absolutely obnoxious, disrespectful, unattractive people, ruining your Thanksgiving, being ungrateful. And then she's like, I only eat seaweed and cucumber or whatever, the great girl. And so he goes out to get, Brady goes out to get seaweed and cucumber. She's like,

I never said that I wanted it. That's on you. I'm like, she's horrific. And then this other Epcot girl, who then Carrie calls he. That's, this is a joke. we came up with? Epcot. Yeah. My parents were Disney fans. Yeah. I mean, how many people, like, how awful is the writing? Epcot. Epcot. Kerry says he is in the bathroom. Yeah, I know. And people were like, oh, I thought it was a trans woman, but Carrie's called him a he. No, according to my sources, this is a born woman, NEPO baby, Lorraine Newman's other daughter. Oh, it is? Jesus.

Everybody's having a great time, huh? Lorraine Newman. Whoever, Lorraine Newman did one thing. Like, her kids are way more. So the other Lorraine Newman daughter is from Hacks. I think a great actress. And this girl played the part, like she was supposed to be an obnoxious, horrible person who clogs up the toilet.

And then the guy comes, and someone said, no, Anna Royceford, my friend, who's so funny. She's the one that always is like, Brinda? Like she does the kind of the scene like you do. And she tweeted like, whatever that actor is, he was also in Titanic. He's a great actor and a legitimate actor.

Like the fact that he took that role. And so he comes out and he comes out and he's like, oh, and then now listen, clogging up a toilet, having a shitting problem at a party, we've lived it in real life. It makes for a funny story,

but never in my life have I seen actual shit coming up multiple poos coming up through the toilet and pouring out all of us were about to puke this is the show this is the time that you're like

let's show the actual shit out of all the comedies and everything before about shitting after I mean we saw bridesmaid we knew they all were getting sick did we see the actual shit no like what are you thinking it was very good looking shit

whoever that's the one person who worked hard on the show is the person who made that shit because it looked just like shit i just saw something that said if your shit floats it's not as good as if it's solid to the bottom of the of the toilet when you're ready to flush it wow well i guess fcott shit was good or bad i'm not exactly it was a nepo shit yeah nepo shit so it did it rose to the top don't they always oh oh my god so then um yeah that that was it like it was just it was Why did we suffer with all these extra? They just had way too many extra characters. Nobody cared about.

Nobody cared about. And then what I do love is the day that it did announce that it was ending, Kim Cottrell, who I follow on Instagram, posted a beautiful sunset over the ocean. And she said, it's the end of a very long week and a heart and a lip. And everybody was like, now, as someone who is, we've all been there, okay, whether it's your ex is getting divorced from his second wife. she's getting text. Somebody that took your job, got fired.

Right. Whatever it is, there's just certain moments in life when you get the news and you're like, fuck, yeah. Yeah. That must have been the best day of Kim Cottrell's life to hear like, you know, I did the right thing. I didn't do it because probably for three years she was having to see the posters and having to see that something like people were liking it or the, oh my God, they got this amazing

guest star and, you know, they're probably we're like trying not to care, but there's probably little pangs and to have it be done done and know that it was a disaster and not well received has got to be like she's probably like i could die tomorrow and be like totally happy yeah she must be thrilled i mean now she looks like the smart one in the end who oh darling i told them that was never going to work no yeah and uh it it's just but in the final episode yes the shit was just shocking and two guys peed we had to see two guys standing up peeing yeah right the guy who that was a little shocking too and then also sema's boyfriend and drake even said wait he stopped peeing to tell her something yeah something about can a guy do that can you stop a bit pee you can

yeah just like a girl can oh you can okay and i mean that whole thing where she's like where she's sitting there as like a 57 year old woman at the fashion show being like he doesn't want to get married married he's 32 you're 57 you've never been married and this is the guy that you think is going to be the one to keep you forever like what the fuck yeah and then the whole deodorant

bit like that went on for three episodes well I tortured myself listening to the podcast oh I couldn't and the two geeky women that I'm telling you would in another life were the head of the all-girl Catholic high school I went to a literary department they should be they're the biggest fork and dorks and they the writers of the show, right? And they're like, well, actually, you know, Shannon and I, or whatever

the other girl's name is, we went to dinner, and we saw a girl actually whip out her deodorant, and we said that has got to be in the show. Oh, of course. That's so hilarious. Like, those women and the writers of that show need to be arrested. I know. So bad. They are just, yeah, I, I, and then, yeah, everything and like, Giuseppe and him, like, that they, you know, that they, They'd want to get married, like the whatever his... Oh, the pie in the face at the end. Yeah, the pie in the face. And I was just like, I just think it could have been so good if they did it my way,

which was just three women, because there were some good storylines that happened when you're in this stage of life. Right. That you would pick up the phone and have a fucking hilarious chuckle with your friend. Yeah. Or call, pick up your friend and have like a, oh, my God, my kid's dropping out of school. I don't know what to do moment. Yeah.

And, you know, they kind of. could have had all that. Yeah, it was, they were, I mean, I think in the end, it did suffer a little bit from, like, having to check every box, you know, which honestly, that's what it was doing. Yeah, and trying to think, and just going, listen, the only people that are going to watch this are the ones that love Sexist City. What do they want? Nobody knew was, stumbling.

It's not like, suddenly I'm going to start watching. If Star Trek comes back, I'm not going to suddenly start watching it. Yeah. I've never watched it. There was no new audience. Yeah, so it's like, why not just do what the, but what? One thing I think is, it's a shame because this was a show about middle-aged women and it was not well received. And then Leanne Morgan's show is doing great on Netflix.

And so I'm thinking there still is more story, our version of Golden Girls, in a like a very funny, relatable way. Somewhere in between the two of them, I think there's more shows that can be had that are like, yeah. And but hot in Cleveland. Was it out of a show with a bunch of ladies? That was kind of like a girl. So you guys, that's it. I mean, I think I said everything I want to say about it. I think I did.

Okay. So there you go. Thank you for living through it. I will stop talking about it. However, on occasion, I might want to just write season four with you. Oh, absolutely. Just for fun. Yeah.

Just like she's back. Like a fan fiction. Yeah. Like what I still think can happen with these characters. I'd be happy to help out. Okay. Taylor Swift finally was a guest star

on her boyfriend's podcast and looks like she has a nice filter on too, whatever they use. I think they use Riverside, so I've been told. Oh, is that right? Yeah. And what do you think? What's going on with them? Well, I'll say this. You know, I'm shocked it's still going. It's been going

a long time, almost two years, I believe. Yeah. So great for them. The clips I saw, they seemed affectionate in. I feel like a cute couple. I feel like they're a cute couple I'm happy for them why not go out and enjoy your life I don't I don't know anything about her outside of her music

but she seems nice and he seems nice and how do you like that people are speculating what songs on her album if any will reference her now ended friendship with Blake lively yeah that could be fun fearing the worst yes that's whatever so

So, I mean, are they getting married? Are they getting pregnant first? What's happening? I'm surprised it's taken this long. Yeah, well, I mean, I would imagine it's something they're probably discussed, right? Yeah. And maybe both of them are like, well, let's wait until I retire from football. Because there was talk of he was going to retire this year.

I mean, he wouldn't play this season. And he is playing, so he's got another season to go. So then this is definitely going to be it. He's not going to play after this season. So maybe that. So does the engagement happen after his final? game or does it do you think it'll ever happen in a showy way like on stage or anything no it'll happen like one of the just like an average girl like we did a thing yeah yeah he did a thing

he did let's hope let's hope she's not that she's pretty yeah right uh-huh oh no please but anyway i i i i don't think they're going to be doing anything public i don't think i'm going to say this at the risk of sounding crazy but i think they're both too classy for that and that's based on absolutely nothing. I think you might be right at this point. Yeah. I think so. And yeah, I think they're totally in love.

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