Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Chris Franjola On Toxic Dad Groups and Ellen’s Return

Episode Date: January 15, 2026

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Heather McDonald has got the Juicy Scoop. When you're on the road, when you're on the go, Juicy Scoop is the show to know. She talks Hollywood Tales for real life, Mr. Sagan, Serial Data and Serial Sister, you'll be addicted and addicted. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Well, I don't even know if you deserve this because we have the one the only,

the comedic genius, the blue-eyed model. The double, double coaster born on the East Coast, lives on the West Coast. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Man of the people. Uh-huh. That's a lot of people say. Tell it like it is. Tell it like it is, you know.

No filter. Non-holywood kiss ass. Uh-huh. Sure. And just overall delight Chris Ferengelo. Thank you. Thank you. Welcome back.

Happy 2026. 2020. This is the first time I've seen you in 2026. Yeah, probably. I know. You had a wonderful Hawaiian experience. had a Hawaiian vacation with their family. It sounded very fun.

I saw your one. Everyone should needs to be following Chris. He does very funny stuff on Instagram. I saw the one thing that you did was like when you're on the group text on a family vacation and it was like what's your father-in-law's name? Fred. Fred. Yeah.

Fred, I thought I saw you down there. Could you grab a banana from the book? Yeah. And then there was another one where they have mango today was another one. I'm on it for no reason. It's not my family. It's her family, you know, which is, yeah, a lot of that. A lot of, I don't know, do you travel like with large, outside of your immediate family?

We did it twice. Yeah. Which was a cruise to Alaska and then a cruise to where are we Virgin Islands. How many people? It was like 11. Oh, that's a problem. Yes. And, well, it was a problem because, you know, we were cheapen out.

Yeah. So we didn't get the internet package. And Brandon was still at an age where, like, it was stressful. And so we would, like, lose him. And then he had to share a room with his grandmother. Oh, no. And he was like, at the end, he goes, I'm so tired. I'm so tired of grandma having to wake up at 6 a.m.

to do her make up for the wind chamber breakfast. Oh, my. And then Drake was staying with his cousin, who my sister-in-law is the mother. and they had, she had signed up for way too many excursions. Yeah. So she would be pounding on his door where they shared a room at also 6 a.m. to be like, Garrett, get up. You're going to miss the bus to get on the boat to go to the da-da-da-da.

And it was just like, oh, my God, like this is not even a vacation. No, we had, that's what I ran into. It was a lot of, we'll wait for you. We'll wait. A lot of we'll wait for you. Like, you don't, I'm going to run out of restroom. We'll wait for you. I'm like, no, seven people don't need to wait for me.

I will find you. There was a lot of, well, wait. I was going to like the hotel area to get like whatever. Yeah. I want to go get a Red Bull. We'll wait for you. What are you going to get? And then they got to comment on everything.

What you get? Red Bull. Oh, you like Red Bull? I don't like. All right. And then everybody's got a comment. I was driving me nuts. There was no getting away.

Anyway, what are you going to do? But you had a good time. It was nice. Lovely. And then you told me you just saw. A movie. We were going to go see. Oh,

that was my 2026 resolution is to go see more movies in theaters. I've been doing pretty good. Well, you know, I don't know if you know. But I said to the boys, the only thing I wanted for Christmas is for them to take me on a rainy day. Okay,

had to be a rainy day. Okay. To Cineopolis, which is the fancy Westlake Theater. Yeah. And watch Housemade. Yeah. I heard it's good.

And, and you know what? I hope Dad doesn't listen to this. but Drake was being like, you know, like a butthole. And I said, do you want to come to the movie with Brandon and I? And he was like, oh, I don't know. And I go, Brandon, just get the tickets. Yeah.

And so Brandon got two tickets at not that nice of a theater. And then Drake goes, I guess I'll go with you. And I said, all right, let's just buy, forget about the other two tickets. Right. And I mean, it was a big thing. I was like, do not tell your father that we are abandoning the two tickets at the other theater because we're buying three now at the fancy schmancy. Oh.

Because I want the experience. And I'm like, you know, there just comes a certain time in life. You're like, I just, I got to do what I want to do. There's going to bring you food and stuff, all that. Yes. We got drinks. We had eaten before. So we didn't do the food thing.

They no longer have the blankets, which probably is a good idea. Yeah. But I was a little cold. So I think next time I'll bring my own blanket. Sure. I'll bring my own blanket. Sure. I'll bring my own blanket.

And anyway, I loved it. I thought it was great. Yeah. Sweetie, totally juicy. And you saw, is it. this thing on. Now, should I see it. I think you should.

I think I should. Let me tell you why. Okay. The stand-up comedy aspect of it, aside, I think it's exactly your type of movie, divorce-wise. They're going through some trouble, him and Laura Dern. Okay. That's why he discovers stand-up.

This is Will Arnett. Will Arnett. And he is starting to be a stand-up, but like, you know, post-50 years old. Yes, he's basically him and Laura Dern are getting a divorce, kind of. They're fighting. And one day he's just walking down the street And he sees the comedy cellar in New York And he walks in

And of course, as comedians, we know it doesn't really work like this It's like, just get up, you know? Yeah, and he gets up. Right, yeah, yeah, and the comedy seller It takes years to get on there But of course he walks right on. And yeah, but it's very good. I enjoyed the movie a lot.

I saw someone do kind of like a, you know, a current up-and-coming comedian, you know, that's out in the clubs and the streets Yeah. Kind of criticizing, you know, how hard it is. And he was explaining what it's like and all of that. And I wrote, I'm like, that's exactly what it was like 30 years ago. What you're saying is exactly what it was like 30 years ago.

Right. You had to bring people. It was hard as shit to get a spot. You tried to make friends. You tried to get some representation. Like the journey actually hasn't changed. The only thing that's changed is that you have this ability to go viral. And then if you can go to a club owner and say,

hey, I can sell out this place, then you can have it. They don't mention any of that kind of stuff in this movie. So it was just all straight step. I think it's good that they got rid of that element. Yeah. Even though it would add some. There was a comedian, like her name's Jordan Jensen.

I don't you ever had her on. She's like kind of a young female comedian from New York. And she's in the movie and she's great. She's like kind of the standout in the movie for me. I thought she was really good. Anyway, it was good movie. Check it out. I think you'd like it.

Yeah. Laura Derns. I just saw a video of the two of them and like a bloopers reel, Will Arnett and his former wife, Amy Polar. And, you know, they're divorced. You're talking about Golden Globe winning Amy Polo for Best Podcast. A good hang. Yeah, that she's done for six months.

Absolutely. 18 episodes with her friends. Yeah. And with the staff of 72. Yeah, right, right. But you know what? I talked about it. Like, of course she's going to win.

No one has a bad thing to say about her. But someone was like, they have such a funny chemistry and when they were doing like they're filming together. People are like oh I want these two to like get back together and the thing is is that when someone actually gets the point

of divorce even if they're like amically co-parenting and stuff oh get back there's a reason they got to that place right that we will never know about. Strangely enough that's kind of what this movie's about it must be sought kind of loosely based on him and Amy

Polo because they don't hate each other. They keep saying that. They're like, I just don't want to be married to you. I like you a lot. You know? So, and I don't want to give away the ending. Which also is kind of rare. Most people, when they get to divorce, it's very rare.

I always say that two people are like, you know what? I was thinking, do you really want to be together forever? Oh my God, I'm so glad you said it. Let's get a divorce. Split everything 50, 50 and still be besties. Like, it's very, very rare that that could ever happen. Yeah. It did make me kind of miss the early days of stand up, like the hanging out.

Yeah, the hang out after. Hooking up with like. And the vodka cranberries. Yeah, that kind of stuff. It never occurred to me to also say, hey, can I have some soda water in there? I just did vodka cranberries. Never had a yeast infection. That's what people used to do.

Oh, yeah, it was good for that, wasn't it? Never had a problem down there. That's a lot of cranberry juice, though. I know. That's too sweet. Well, nobody drinks anymore, as you've heard, right? I mean, didn't you do something recently on your Instagram about it? I have something on here.

Let's wait, let's just go back to my order of business. So you say yes, you liked it. I liked it. Thumbs up. Check it out. Okay, gosh, good. Getting to Golden Globes, which of course we covered, it happened a few days ago,

but I always like to get your take in general. What did you think in general? Did you watch the whole thing? I did. I watched the whole thing. I did not. I like award shows, you know. I'm a sucker for award shows.

I still liked them. I know nobody cares anymore, but I still enjoy them. It's fun to watch good-looking people, you know, fumble, try to get on stage. Yeah. Which every time they can't figure out how to get on, they're moving around tables. Do they do the Golden Globe Nepo girl anymore? No.

They were doing a very strange thing this time. I don't know if you've noticed where they had two guys like almost like doing play by play. Yeah, like football people. No, they weren't football people. You know the guy. Right. It was the variety guy. But that's gotten a lot of criticism.

I know. Because he was so annoying. They felt like it was very annoying. And it was a guy from variety. And it was a guy from Kevin Frazier from like, entertainment tonight. It was two of them. I did a show with Kevin Frasier once. The weirdest thing. Women who soar. Soar like what? It was let me just tell you this story really quick. Like fly soar?

It was first of all it was grammatically incorrect. It was like I don't know what it was. Maybe I was saying wrong but it was like this person called me. It was right after Chelsea landed and they're like would you host this thing? Right. And we were flying to Dallas and it's like going to be syndicated. It's going to be on some TV somewhere. I don't know how. And it was like, like women that, you know, are inspirations or whatever, it was like a black tie thing. And Kevin did it with me, but he got there late. Okay.

And then he got to leave early because he's like inside addition. Yeah. And then I was told I'd get $5,000. And then after it was over, they gave me a check for 10. Oh, I was like, oh, my God. And then I realized that's probably what they were paying Kevin. He's probably getting twice what I was getting. And I was like so excited.

And at the time, you know, know. I don't even think I'd start the podcast. And I was like, oh, my God, this is going to pay for the first year of Crespi for Drake. And this is just like so amazing. And I'm so excited. And I'm telling Peter, I'm like, the minute I land, let's go straight to the bank, because they're going to realize that they like double paid me. And then I land. He's like, yeah, they already canceled it. Oh. And then it took months to get the five. Months. Yeah. But Kevin got his 10. So it was Kevin and him. And what was annoying about it? Tell me.

Well, I mean, it was just, it didn't, they, first of all, he's annoying that guy from variety anyway. Right. He always is asking sexual questions. Yeah, he asks weird sexual questions all the time about, uh, so I, I saw the clips of people now because of this. Going down and going down and being like asking about the right two rivalry guys. The rivalry guys.

Yeah. All that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. It's just something they didn't need. We didn't need.

No. No. No. Just let them walk to the stage in silence. Now I understand page six needs to. get as many articles out as possible about the Golden Globes. So they put Jennifer Garner and Jennifer J. Lo, both from the evening side by side. Why Ben Affleck's ex-wives Jennifer Garner and Jennifer Lopez wouldn't pose together at the Golden Globes?

Why would they post? Why would they? Yeah. First of all, nobody ever asked two stars to close unless you actually are a couple or you're in a movie together and you went there specifically to promote your movie. like I mean sometimes these headlines I'm like give me a break you know well they seem to be fine with each other I mean I don't know what goes on in the bad Affleck world you just see I see him sometimes seeing with Jennifer Lopez still and sometimes seen with Jennifer Garner still yeah I think uh somebody says he goes out into the

street and just yells Jennifer and waits to see which one shows up yeah I don't think either one of them like Jennifer Lopez I still think she kind of loves him but would nobody in her life would allow her to ever get back with him and I don't think he wants to get with her I think he was the one that ended it because I just think as cute

as he is he's essentially become a grumpy old man right and there's nothing that a grumpy old man wants to do less than get dressed up yeah to do it they don't want to do Instagram videos they don't want to take photos of you

yeah They don't want, they don't, he'll direct a film, but like, he doesn't want to do anything else. Do you have any interest in going to see Jennifer Lopez's show in Vegas? I kind of do. Well, you know, our friend Luella, who always comes to all our shows and she's a comedian too. She lives and works in Vegas. And she might give me a hookup. We might, I might want to go.

I mean, I, if I go to Vegas, I would like to see it. I think I want to see it. I love all her songs. I love looking at her. So sure, why not? Yeah, I think it would be a fun night. Yeah. Okay, Julia Roberts showed up the Golden Globes and she looked great.

But she did this post. I don't know why it bothers me, maybe because I did it like four years ago before a stand-up gig and everyone else has it. It's just not original. And it's where you put on the face mask and the lip mask and you're like, pre-game and Julia. This is what's wrong with the Oscars. like we don't want to see you before the red carpet at any stage of it got you like keep the mystery alive and that's what I think has ruined the show because it used to be this is the only time we get to see these people we don't know what they're going to wear and now it's like we've seen them getting ready

Instagramming the entourage they what should it which dress should I choose come with me as I get ready for the yeah and those kind of yeah and I just think it's a mistake. Yeah, I watched a lot of Mel Robbins. You know who that is? Of course, we've talked about Mel Robbins. Oh, okay. Yeah.

Yeah, let them. Let them. She was nominated. She's full of crap, right? That's a, that's a scam. Okay. Yeah, we were just talking about it on the other show, like, how you, it's just really just taking all that motivational stuff.

We used to call them motivational speakers. She literally, like, read bumper stickers that I see on call and just regurgitates what a bumper sticker says. And how, like, why are people going so nuts for it? I'm like, If you want to feel good in the morning, get a good night's sleep. I'm like, well, no shit. This is the thing about what it is, is women are always looking to improve their life,

find that love life, find that passion. We are into self-help as a species. Okay. Men, they will do things to make money, but it's only going to be about money. Right. They are not like, hey, I really think what would be great is to go on a three-day, you know, a seminar about how to make my marriage more enriching. Like, nobody's doing that. You know, like, so, but women will.

We will try to find the latest fitness, the latest, all those things. So just like the reason that we go to psychics and think, we just want an answer. Okay. And so you just jump on something and it speaks to you and you're like, oh, this will work. But then just like teenage girls, even though we're 50, we'll move on to somebody else in a few years. I feel like it's happening. All those same women were into the Rachel Hollis. And prior to that, they were into Susan Powder.

You know, like prior to that, they were into, you know, whoever. Yeah. The workout buddy people were that. Yeah, right. What about the guy with the ponytail? Remember him? We used to. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, he'd be on that thing. It's moved. Chris and Bruce Jenner at the time. They used to do workout video. I remember. You know, we're old. I thought Julia Roberts looked good.

No, shit great. Yeah. So this did work for her. She got a standing ovation. Yet Clooney didn't. Came out next after her. But it was kind of funny the thing he did with Don Cheadle. Don Cheadle came out and they talked about it.

Like, Hmm. Don Ciel's like, no standing ovation for you. Not even for his Casamigos or his, like, Nespresso commercials or all the other commercials that he does. I think Nikki Glazer touched upon nespressal commercials and her monologue.

Oh, she did? See, I didn't see the whole model, but I'm sure she did a great job. She was great. I mean, she has a great writer. Yeah, yeah. She's not great too, but she was great. She'll definitely get invited to do it again, I think. Why wouldn't they?

I mean, if I was them, I would try to sign her. Maybe this has happened to like a 10-year contract that she like, like what happens with Scientology, like a billionaire contract. You can't get out of it. Right. Because if I own the Golden Gloves, I'd be like, I just want to not have to worry about this every year. I don't want to have to worry about her being like, eh, I'm over it. No. 10 years.

Ask for 10, maybe she'll settle at 5. They did a smart thing last year where they hired her immediately the next, like the next day they made the announcement. She'll be back next year. So that was good. They should do that again right now. Yeah. But then also behind the scenes, they should like sign her for like 10 years. Yeah.

And they just don't have to worry about it. We're talking about things of we want to get rid of in 2026 is the whole so-and-so and so-and-so getting married was not on my bingo card this year on. On the bingo card has got to be left in 2025 with 6.7 and it's giving. It's giving. Main character energy. Absolutely. All those things need to stay in 2025. We are done talking like that.

I agree. So they actually had Golden Globe bingo cards. Oh, they did. At the table. Yeah. Oh, just what people need it. I assume. I feel like DiCaprio is the one that everybody wants.

wants to see and talk to. And at the one before that was... He's our Jack Nicholson. Yeah, it was like Critics Choice the week before. They're all the same thing. I don't know which ones which. And Golden Globe. And then like during commercial breaks,

there's just like a line of people waiting behind DiCaprio to either speak to him or take pictures with him or whatever. I mean, if I were him, I would just stay home. I was like, I'm out. You know, I don't need to do this. I wonder if anybody is really thrilled when like, oh, man, the movie that I'm doing in Hungarian happens to fall during award ceremony.

Oh, bummer. Yeah, I would love it. You know, Nikki Boyer, you know, Nikki Boyer, you remember her? I know her, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, she started the podcast after her friend passed, which is Dying for Sex, which then became the series,

and actually Michelle Williams won. Yeah. But unfortunately, she was not able to make it. Michelle Williams. wasn't there. No. Yeah. Which sort of a bummer, but she did win.

And I just think, I just, it's so amazing, because I had Nikki on the show when the podcast was starting. And I was like, well, this should be a television series and da-da-da. And it's just, it is really, her story should give everyone help that like, you know, I mean, she was in the business, but to leap to like having something, being an executive producer and having it be nominated for a million things because you had a great story and you created it and put it in the. right trajectory is like pretty amazing.

Yeah. I haven't seen it. And she's so nice. So like she deserves it. Okay. What do you think about the transformation of Pete Davidson from like, you know, bad boy tattoo dating Kim Kardashian just in and out of rehabs to now just your average, your average dad at the dog park just got rid of the tats?

Did he get rid of the tats or not? He's gotten rid of a lot of them. I mean, right now in this outfit that he's wearing with his girlfriend, I don't think they're married. They have a baby. They're going, I guess, to the Golden Globes or some event. And, you know, he doesn't look as thin. Yeah.

The black eyes are gone. Thank goodness. But also just the look, like the, you know, he got a lot of tats removed. Yeah, okay. I think I did a post on my, on my Instagram in Hawaii that I believe, and this is a It's a controversial, controversial subject. I believe tattoos are ruining poolside resorts. I'm not talking like people like him who are slim and it looks good on them.

There are those. But I'm talking to people who got it a while ago and it's, you know, a raiders, a faded raiders tattoo on their calf is ruining resort pool. Every single person had one or many. and the days of them looking good in them are gone So my brother-in-law has been in the hospitality Vegas casino world for whatever 30, 40 years

And there were certain hotels And casinos that had a policy That you could not work there If you had any visible tattoos from the uniform Right So we're not just talking like neck face But like you know If you're a bartender and you roll up your sleeve

Like you couldn't show it if you had them Yeah. And with everybody doing the hands and everything, they had to change that policy like 15 years ago. They're like, no, you would never have anybody. Right. But I think my prediction is in the next five years, tend to be exact, it will be completely out of style. Really? Yes.

That is just my prediction. You know, there'll be something else, but it won't be permanent or something. Yeah. And what's going to happen now is stars like him and my next prediction, jelly roll will start to remove some of the tats starting with the face. Okay. Jelly roll's already lost a bunch of weight. Yeah, I lost the weight. He got new teeth. I'm telling you the facial tattoos are going to be the next thing to go. Yeah. He loves to do the fake humble jelly roll. It annoys me fake humble. Nothing annoys me more than fake humble. I'm like, all right, now you're here. That you can't believe that you got there.

Yeah, and he still does it five years later. Like, I can't want it. This is never. I was just a guy in prison. Look at me now. Like, all right. It's been going on a while. Pretend.

When do you switch that? Because I mean, probably for the first few years, you were just like, I can't fucking believe. But now you do fly private. You are this. You do have a staff. Eventually got to go. Yeah.

Yeah. Like, you know, so when does that change? Well, it should have changed immediately. But, you know, some people, fake it, I believe, to make them look humble. Whatever. That's just my opinion. Well, it does, it does really work because again, just like a manifesting mama, which is my new name, Manifesting Mama. Oh, is that right? Yeah, I came over yesterday. I didn't know that. If I can do it, you can do it. I'm just teaching people. I'm going to start selling courses for

$30,000. You're like Mel Rub. You need a big pair of glasses. I'm going to. Where's your big glasses? Put them on and manifest Mama, everybody. It's going to be my next book. I told her I swear to God we got a copy. That changes everything. It's Manifesting Mama and no, I'm not going to, I'm not going to charge courses, but I'm going to write a book called Manifesting Mama. And it is going to just be about deciding.

Why not you? Why not you? Why not walk in a room and say this room is lucky to have me here? Not, I don't belong to be. I don't belong here. No, yeah, you do. That's pretty good. Because you walked in.

Yeah. And when the energy shifts, you have the ability to shift it around. Is this the third podcast after Juicy Crime is Manifesting Mama? Could I be the first guest on Maddening? Just like you were the first guest on Jusie's Go? Of course. What do you want to manifest? Okay, let me talk to me.

I'm coaching you now. It's $3,000 an hour. Hi, Chris. Good morning. Good morning. Hi. I used to meet you manifesting mama. How are you?

Well, we are so glad to have you part of the program. First time caller, a long time listener. Well, thank you. What can I do to help you manifest what is meant for Chris Frangelo in this life, in this world, in this moment today? Are you in the moment, Chris? I like to think I am manifesting moment. No. Okay.

You might be right. Don't use the word might. We're going to take might out of the vocabulary because you know what that should. You know what might is? It's insecurity. I might be able to reach it tomorrow. I might be able to make my sales goals. So I should say I'm going to reach it tomorrow.

No, I am. I am. I did. Do past tense and present tense. I feel like you've read a book on you. No, I have. This is pretty good. This is real good.

No, I improvised it on my last episode. It's very natural for me. Oh, really? Yeah, I'm telling you. Okay, can I think I mean, for fuck all these topics. I'm ready to be manifest mama. I tried. I'm not a manifest guy at all.

Not at all. And I tried one time. Yeah. I said, let me, because I hear people say it works. Yeah, yeah. So I had a little book. Yeah. You know, I don't know where I found it. And I wrote a couple things in it.

Someone says, write it down. Yeah. Write it down. And then, of course, my daughter and my wife found it. And they were like, what's this? And I'm like, it was so embarrassing to have your manifestations read back to you. You're like, oh, there's nothing worse than that. And that's what happened.

and that was ruined any manifestation I've ever had. I think there's nothing wrong with manifesting it, but it doesn't have to cost any money. Yeah. That's all. You can write it down. You can say it in the morning. You can just think it in your head.

You can make the posters. But you, to me, and you don't need to. And you can buy a book on it. That's, you know, $30. But I just don't believe that you need to. Right. Get to a level of. I mean, and also I think in your manifestations need to be somewhat,

attainable. You know what I mean? Like, it can't just matter. Well, I remember when I first got a hold of the secret DVD. Right.

Lisa Sunstead dropped it off at my house. Oh, perfect. Look what it. And it was kind of a life-changing moment because I wasn't pursuing stand-up. I'd taken a big break. I had the little kids. And I watched it.

I actually didn't finish it. But I did gain the important part. But one of the things was, so it was like all the things you could manifest. And there was like a scene of this person in a third world country like hanging their sheets as there was like a

narration and that's immediately when I said okay yes it can happen in America not all of America I mean it can happen if you you know can happen but it can happen America you can become a

homeowner you can though it's very hard you can become a business owner there's nothing legally stopping you from doing that right so there yes Right. But not for everybody in the world. No, not for everybody.

Yeah. You can't do it in certain countries. Like, you know, some people are just too dumb. You're walking around with one eye as a woman. I don't think that you're going to do great makeup tutorials. Victoria's Secret, you know, fashion show. I doubt it. Maybe.

Yeah. So, yeah, that's what I think. But, okay, so moving on, let's talk about this Brittany Furlan thing. This is the longest, weirdest story ever. It's pretty fascinating. I don't know much about it, but I know enough. I don't know the new. Just to catch people up.

Britney Furlon, very pretty actress, funny girl, made it on Vine. She's been in a documentary about social influencing. She's been married to Tommy Lee or together with him for over a decade. Tommy Lee from Motley Crew. Motley Crew. And I want to say this was like six months ago. There's this other guy named Ronnie Radke, who's in also to band, very much like a younger Tommy Lee, all tatted up.

up and everything. And she was in a lonely part of her marriage and she started Snapchating with him. And to the point of, you know, let's meet. I'm going to come to your house, whatever. He then somehow like, I think he came out and exposed it because Tommy Lee saw the messages and reached out to him and it was like, why the fuck are you reaching out to a married woman? He's like, I never reached out to Brittany Furlong.

What are you talking about? she must have been catfished that is not me and she was like there is no way this wasn't you like there's there's no physical there's no cyber way this wasn't you is that what she's saying now yes yeah she is saying that now and she was saying it that he's so then he's like leave me alone and then he and somehow it just bubbled up again because I think in he's suing them or something he has tried to get her he's asking for restraining her against her yeah because he's saying, you know, like, you've been catfish, stop this, and she's saying, you're doing this to harass and humiliate me now. So she's just put in her petition to get a restraining order

against him. Here's the thing. Sometimes when people go, well, so what? Have a rest, let him get a restraining order against you. It's not like you're going to go up and show up his house, Brittany, who cares? but the reason people don't want someone to succeed in getting a restraining order against them is because it's on your record, it gets pulled up. If anything was to happen in the future, they'd be like, you know, I want to believe Chris, but 10 years ago, you know, he didn't fight this restraining order

and this weird person at the restaurant got one against him. So maybe he does have a bad temper. You know what I mean? So you want to, so right now they both are trying to get them against each other. And it's just such a bizarre story. Like I don't, you know, know, I don't know. So she's basically saying, no, you, this was you.

And you're just trying to like fuck with me and make us look bad as a couple and everything else. Make her and Tommy Lee look bad as going. And make me like look crazy. That's what I'm gathering. It's very hard to cover. But it's kind of crazy. Yeah, I don't.

And then I, is he not suing them? I thought I had read last week that he was actually suing them. Oh, okay. I definitely don't know. I could be wrong. This is from TMC just talks about their restraining order. But maybe you're right. Maybe he's suing them for like all the trauma.

What happens then is then all this gets, you know, you wake up every day and you open your phone. And there's people saying like, you're an asshole. How could you do this Tommy? And then that person gets to a place where they're like, enough is enough. Right. I never contacted this whack job. She's a horny bitch. This somehow she's catfish.

And, you know, and it is, we know how hard it is to find. I mean, when you saw that, that documentary about the mom who was catfish. catfishing her own daughter. That took years to discover. Right. Like it's very hard to figure out cyber, like in the cyber world. If someone's doing that, we know that, you know, catfishing can happen. So I don't know.

If I was her, again, I've just said this the other day, I would have just, you fight it. But I guess the best way to fight it is to fight it with your own restraining order. I guess that's it. I mean, she's probably like, why are you bringing this up again? I know. I feel like it's back again. So maybe he is just kind of a dick about it. I don't know Ronnie Radke.

I'm not familiar with his work. No, either am I. Like, whatever. So, I mean, it's the most I've ever heard of Ronnie Radke. This is what I do think. But she's obviously... I think it could be either or. I think that he could have been him and it could have been flirting.

And then he didn't want the reputation when Tommy got mad at him. He didn't want that. He didn't want that in the music industry. So he could be lying. He could. I'm not saying he is. Don't sue me either. she's been honest in saying whether he was catfish or was real she was flirting with someone

else because they weren't in a good place yeah they're back together now so like i feel like she's been very forthcoming in it all she was a comedian for a minute right she was trying stand yeah she was trying to stand a lot of everyone everyone does yeah everybody loves it yeah you have until you don't i mean the amount of reality stars that have also tried it oh and that go That's quick. Yeah, because once you get through just a few people being interested in seeing you do it, then, yeah, then that's the end of it. Like that movie I was just talking about. It was directed by Bradley Cooper.

I feel like Bradley Cooper's got some sort of weird fascination with stand-up comedy. I don't really know why. What do you think of his Barry Mantelow face? I mean, it's definitely something. I can't tell what. I thought it was hairline. It looks weird to me. I just feel like, you know what?

I think he's been referencing it on. Podcast. We all, and saying that I did get something done. I don't know if, I, I know he's mentioning it, whether he says he did or he didn't. He said, people now come up to him and say you look like Barry Madelow. He said it. Listen, you know, everybody gets them. Everybody gets the facelifts and everything and there's nothing wrong with it.

And just some people look refreshed and some people look really different. And it's just like, you just don't know what you're going to get. Yeah. And if you look really different, you should just, and you just have to then go, yeah, I did this. Hopefully you like my new head. Remember the guy you liked before? Well,

now he's a different one person. I'm just inside. Yeah, yeah, I'm still the same person inside. It's like Frankenstein. Okay, I want to,

yeah, the latest on the mom toxic thing with the Ashley Tidsdale just to fill you guys in. Ashley Tisdale was in like a Hollywood group of women with Bandy Moore, Hillary Duff. Who's the other one?

That singer, all about that big. A Megan Traynor. And she basically wrote an article and said, I had to get out of this toxic mom group, but basically it was because they were already excluding her. Right.

So then when, oh, it's toxic. Well, it's toxic because we didn't want you there or whatever. Oh, I was on the edge of the table. Well, some people have to be on the edge of the table. Right.

If you don't want to be on the edge table, get there on time and squat in the middle. Don't leave until everyone sits around you. Yeah. Like, I don't know what to tell you. Like, that's the deal. And so,

um, Crystal Mean Coffee used to be on Real House as Beverly Hills, one of her storylines. was they all said, you know, Crystal, the new girl's a weirdo because she got dropped by 14 friends. And so some of those women were part of this same toxic mom group. So now Crystal is saying, oh, I can relate to Ashley Tisdale because my kids were in preschool with these mean moms. Oh, yeah.

And I think what they do is they take it a new mom or the new mom weasels their way in. Is this, where does this happen? Is this in the valley? No, this is like West L.A. Oh, it is? This is like, I think this is definitely like, I thought this was a valley thing. I thought, because I thought they were. No, because Crystal lives in like legit Beverly Hills.

Okay. So I think this is Beverly, you know, private Beverly Hills, Hollywood Hills, West Hills, West L.A., that whole situation. Because it's like, you know, big names. And I think what happened was someone, you know, ingratiates themselves and says, oh, and I'm going to have what, you know what? Little Johnny and Susie like each other come to my house and Beverly Hills and they kind of weasel them. way in and they oh okay it was pretty nice and he's all met whatever but then time goes on and then

they're like do we have to invite Crystal again she's kind of annoying that's what I think and then when you're excluded you're like oh my god they're bitches it's like well I mean they have a right to hang who they want to hang with you know and now it's all exposed and it starts

a big conversation I personally never was in a mom's group because with my work schedule and stuff and then when I would show up People would be like, what are you doing here at school? Right. And I'd be like, oh, you know. And they'd be like, oh, you're not filming or anything today. I'm like, no, I am.

And they'd be like, oh, you don't, I just didn't think because you're like, makeup's done, and I'm like, it is done. Like, just mean things, whatever. Also, toxic. Yeah, a little toxic. But, you know, but then also I was being overly sensitive. And I'm like, these women are running the school. They don't give a shit if I have to do Chelsea lately or not.

Yeah. I'm not inviting them over to my house. So like, why do I expect to be invited to the, to the book club? Yeah. It's, it's hard. I'm at the point, I mean, the less I'm invited to, the better. You know what I mean? Like, if I was Ashley Tiss, I'd be like, I didn't get invited.

That's amazing. I get to stay home. I mean, I'm in a group. You were in a dad group? Dad's, dad's and donuts. Oh, we used to love the dads and donuts. Yeah. I went, you know what?

I would go to the dads and donuts. I went once. Because one time Peter didn't want to go. And I go, well, then I'm going to go because it's the only day I can go do something. And I went to the dads and donuts. I went once to dads and donuts. I don't think it's been many after that. I don't think it took off.

It was part of the school. And I went to that. And at Dads and Donuts was every car parked was a G-Wagon. So already I'm like, oh, no, I pull up at my key, you tell you ride. I'm like, I'm not part of Dads and Donuts. I'm the Ashley Tisdale of Dads and Donuts. And three of the guys. are legit. No, I'm not kidding. Brain surgeons. And then I go and what are you doing? I'm like, well,

next week, I'm at the funny phone in Omaha. Like, what? And so I mean, I was not accepted. Wait, I have to ask. So none of these guys are like kind of excited to meet you because you are funny and that's such a cool job. It became a little bit. There was a little bit of that later in like when we became basketball and stuff. We were on the sidelines. And they were like, so you, You know, if they don't know, comedy. Wait, your five-year-old daughter plays basketball? Yeah, six, she's six. That's amazing.

Well, plays basketball is, you know, that's a stretch. She throws the ball into the air. Whether it comes near the net is anybody's guess. But do you have a basketball court at your house now? We don't. You have to. No, but we play a, we can go anytime and play in this gym. It doesn't take a lot of room just to get the thing in practice.

No, no, you know. Well, that's amazing. I mean, I think, I, listen, when I finally got to the place where all this stuff was over with, you know, basically high school, like, you know, there's that much that you do with parents once you're in high school. I was like, wow, I feel like I missed that whole section. Like, I didn't actually do those fun things and now they're over.

But actually, I'm really glad it's over. Yeah, I mean. It's not as great as people think. I don't think so. And then when some people really throw themselves in it and they don't have other things going on, they are really devastated when people leave. Yeah. Like I saw Garcel Bouvet and her boys are just like a little younger than Brandon.

And I go, I go, oh, aren't your boys seniors this here? She's like, yes. And then I go and she goes, oh, is it awful when they leave? I'm like, no. When they leave like the home. Yeah. No. You'll be fine.

Right. I'm like, you'll be fine. You'll see them. You'll be fine. It's like, but I think for some people, like, it's really devastating when they make this their whole life. The good thing about me is as an old dad is I'll be dead by the time my daughter to graduate high school. So I won't have to know about that. Okay, so we talked about jelly roll, Sarah Michelle Geller and Chrissy Teigen are judges for the Star Search Netflix reboot, which I love a star search type situation.

What do you think about the judges that they chose? How did they come up with this? Like a comedian, because I remember comedy was big on Star Trek. Why isn't there a stand-up doing this? Out of all the stand-ups. She's hilarious. She's the... But she did something like this before.

There was like a... There was a lip-sick show. No, there was like a stand-up show where Chrissy Teagle was a judge with Jeff Foxworthy. It wasn't that long ago. And if I'm a comedian who's probably, they're going to get people who've been doing it a while, who are pros. Yeah. And Chrissy, I feel the same way about like America's Got Talent. Like if I have to sit there and let Heidi Klum tell me I'm funny or not funny, I would die.

You're so funny, Chris. Yeah, like. The way you walk. I like, I wish that you would not walk back and forth so much. Yeah, and that's what she said. I'm like, what do you know about anything? Like, what? The only reason you're right?

It was distracting. Right. But I like the joke about your daughter. And I know I'm doing a horrible accent, but I'm just like. It's not bad. And I can't remember what her German accent. sounds like but but anyway i feel that way like jelly roll sure you know i mean i feel like he could judge musicians yeah but what the whatever what a sarah michel gal are i just figure this is one of those

things that there is some behind the scenes packaging deal someone has the licensing right some connection because i just really feel like yes she's married to john legend and john legend is a delight in their cute family. But she really has, like, she really had a rough time in the last, you know, five years ago. Yes, and definitely lost her popularity and definitely fell off the face of the earth a little bit.

So I'm like, of all the people, like, you know, Sarah Silverman wasn't available. Like, you know, any female comedian, you know, maybe Juana Sykes doesn't want to do it. But even, like, even below, Tiffany Haddish couldn't do this. Right. I mean, I'm just saying.

they probably asked, you know, so they were probably, I know, but what about a legit real stand-up? Like, there's enough legit stand-ups that have a following men or women. You could have gotten another guy. Yeah, there might be like a special. I'm surprised there isn't a gay person. There should be one gay, the gay guy should have been the comedian. That's what you should have done. Yeah.

Sarah Bejel-Gellar is fine because it's just kind of an overall thing. I still don't know that she's the one that I think about judging talent. I don't, yeah. I think the only legit one is the jelly roll. He's Christian, he's country. He was fat. Now he's thin. He's tattooed.

Then he'll soon be not tattooed. He's got big teeth. Like he's relatable. Uh-huh. But yeah. And weird. Kind of weird, but whatever. It might be hit.

Alan DeGeneres and Portia escaped America. Yeah. But they're back. They bought another home in California for 27 million. Because you know what? Just something, just a little retreat. Yeah. Just miss the sunshine and she's taking photos of rainbows and the sheep are walking into the house.

Is that in California or is that into the UK? No, that's Montecito. Oh. Oh, so she's back already. Yes. It says, according to your post, she bought another house in California. Yeah. So she might leave the UK.

Oh, no. Because I'm telling you, just like Megan Markle, you leave sunny California and you think you can, you know, you like a London fog or a burberry trench. Uh-huh. You like the looks of layers. Right. You don't realize that's, you know, 10 months out of the year. Uh-huh. Not for you.

Not for me. Yeah. My brother just sent me a picture of New York. You know, he lives in New York City. Yeah. And he's like, where at this point now where Christmas is fun. New York City, it's Christmas time. Now it's a couple weeks after.

And he just says it was like a pile of snow that had been plowed, just covered in like garbage. He goes, now it's just dirty snow time for the next like two months. which we don't have to worry about. No, we don't. So anyway, so what do you think their next step? I mean, they're like out of the business, right? She has kind of said I retired.

Okay. More or less. If they don't start Ellen and Portia podcast by the end of 26, I will do something crazy.

I will do something crazy. I will, I will dance naked on the 101. I don't know. Okay. I will do something because you know what's going to happen. I wouldn't put it again. Yes.

I mean, it sounds like the trajectory is going that direction. Why wouldn't they? Ellen Porsche podcasting. If they do manifesting mom, I will freak out. I'm telling you I have to copyright that name. Yeah, I mean.

But they tell the story. Like all we want from Ellen is we want to hear what happened. Like are you the worst person in the world or are you misunderstood? Are you misunderstood? Oh, she, I didn't watch that one. You know, Ian, not, yeah, Ian, who was the guy that, Ian Carmel? Yeah.

He basically like wrote it, I think, for her. Oh, really? Or he worked on it. He was one of the writers and stuff. Yeah. And for what it was, it was pretty good. I mean, I liked it. I was interested in it because she did kind of touch on it.

And it was just like, wow. And she kind of made fun of it. like didn't know I was hated. Like it was kind of. Yeah. Yeah. It was just kind of, the whole thing was weird.

And I feel like had it not broke, it wouldn't have been that big of a story if it wasn't during COVID. Just like the Tiger King would not have been a big show. Had it not happened during COVID. Like there's just certain things that just people were home and it just was like wildfire. Like.

Just something to do. And, yeah. Yeah. So there you go. And also Megan Markle might return to the UK. the first time in four years this summer all right i don't know what's what's your prediction for them for the marr the markel uh and and uh h and m yeah h and m harry yeah her husband age what i mean i feel

like they just live their lives i mean i feel like they they they have money right i mean is there i don't know that they have enough to live for the rest of their life the way they like to live but it's not just that i don't think they're totally fine being like anonymous people really well He might be, but like I don't think that she, yeah, I'm sure any, yes, of course they could make it last. Yeah. They could move into whatever. They're $30 million home, they could find a cute $5 million. Right.

Send their kids to a good public school in Santa Barbara. And. And then go do those signings. Yeah. And go like a Sheridan. Yeah. And Burbank and just sign, you know, at the. Where we were going to do Chris and Heather forever together together.

Yeah. They can go like next to Barbara. Eden and the guy from F Troop or something, they'd be in the middle table sign. You ever see though? That's the saddest things. No, one time Vicki and Shannon Bador from Real House of O.C.

Did it. Yeah. They went to Burbank and I'm like, this is so crazy. Like, you know, just some, like, dushy promoter called them and they're like, for how much? Now, but don't you get paid like per signage? It depends on who you are.

I think in the case of those with Shannon Bador and stuff, I think people would come to them. Okay. There's dudes who are like, you know, third lead on Lost in Space. And then do you sign your headshot from when you were 12, but now you're like 71? I think sometimes you can get the old headshot for a couple of more bucks, you know, or you want my new headshot? That's $10.

You want me a Lost in Space look? That's 25. Wow. My friend was on two seasons of Walking Dead. And that was such a hit show that he was able to do it just because of that. he wasn't really like a standout character or anything but he went and he goes it was the most embarrassing afternoon of my life i was like standing behind this thing and then that you know they would take a picture but he's also owns restaurants yes yeah so this was like kind of a fun

day for him like 25 bucks and then you know they have to dig into their pocket and he was like oh no i got to wait here when they count out 25 dollars uh so yeah i mean i thank thank you to always do that is what i'm saying you could always do that that I definitely think by 2028, okay? Yeah. She will be on some type of ensemble reality show. Whatever that is, whether it's something that hasn't been invented yet, real housewives, something, you know, a one-off, a traitors,

something, something, you know, a really high-end celebrity thing that hasn't been put out. She will be on some type of reality show by the end of 2027. I yesterday was with a couple of people. And one of them happens on a very fancy restaurant in Austin, Texas. And she was telling a story that, like, they got a phone call about a half hour before that they're on their way. Harry and Megget are coming to your restaurant. In Austin. In Austin.

Okay. And they were like, oh my God. So, you know, the security pulled up, da-da-da-da. And she says, whether sure or not, who knows. She said they were absolutely delightful. She said he was the nicest guy. I gave her a big hug and was funny. And they made jokes about she had a picture she said of Freddie Mercury and Queen Elizabeth

morphed together. And he's like, should I take a picture with this? And she was like, said something along the eyes. I think you've taken enough pictures. You regret or something. He started laughing. And she said she was wonderful. So I know they get shit on a lot.

But I heard a story yesterday that they were very nice. Okay. This is what I think. Why shouldn't they be wonderful? I always say that. You're going to a fancy restaurant in Austin. Why wouldn't you be a funny delight? I think they probably can be pleasant.

Right. I also think all the people that, you know, hate working for them. You know, yeah, you were working for them. I don't know. Do they have that? Oh, that people out there who say they have. Yeah, it's always like, oh, they went through their third publicist, whatever. Well, maybe they were like not happy with the PR.

It has never been good. Maybe they're like, we hired you so you could turn it around. I mean, look at the PR. It's not good. It's not good. So it's like maybe that's why you were let go. But no, I'm sure at a restaurant, they can turn it on. And they also, you want these stories to get out that you're like a total delight.

You tipped really well, you know, and whatever. I don't, I don't think she like is that fun. But like, would I want to see her in the real house house at Beverly Hills? Fuck, yes. Absolutely. Would I like to see her become more real and all of that? I don't think she's ever really been real. I don't think we know the real her.

No. As a dear friend. No, I, yeah, I agree. I don't. So how do you do that though? I think as she gets older, as this gets further from her, this whole princess thing, I think that, you know, just like everybody, the closer you get to 50 and she's like 43 or 4 now, she will get it to the, to the fuck it place and she will get to be more

truly authentic. I believe. the way to fix these type of problems where, you know, for whatever reason, people just don't buy what you're selling. It's a risk, but you host Saturday Night Live. You have to host Saturday Night Live.

It makes you look human. It makes you look, and you could goof on everything. Like if Megan Markle and him together host SNL, I think it humanizes that. It's just like when- But they could bomb and you're real- It's like when Kim did it, and that was the first time she made fun of the sex tape.

Yeah. For eight years, we could not make fun of the sex tape on Chelsea lately. Yeah. That was the one rule. We could talk about anything else. Right. We could be political. We could talk about countries, different countries.

You could be racist. We could be, I mean, everything. Yeah. But do not talk about that sex tape. And then she got up there and she joked about it. And not that she wasn't like before, but it made her that much more likable. Oh, I think it works for. I think you're totally right.

And I think that they should reach out to her if not this year, then maybe next. Right. And it would get huge. And people would love that. Yeah. I don't know. What do I know? Anyway, I fixed it.

And as long as they read her something funny and she executes it, then people will be like, she is funny. Yeah. You know? Okay. I love that. Dr. Oz explains new alcohol guidelines, don't have it for breakfast.

So what do you think about this? Well, first of all, I don't think enough people know that you, Dr. And you and I have worked together. It was the strangest afternoon of our lives. Totally forgot about that. I know. I can't. Every now and again when I see some weird thing about him.

Somebody find it on YouTube. It's somewhere. We did the craziest weird. It was before he had become working in the, I'll tell you this. Well, he definitely wasn't in the administration. This was like 10 years ago. And he was, he was thinking about having, he was going to start like a funny. Somebody told him you need to do YouTube content.

And be funny. Be funny. So he had this idea that he was going to do, he was going to work with comedians and be like their doctor. Yes. He was going to be a comedian's doc, different comedians doctor. And they would come in and say,

here's my problem. And he would fix it. That was the bit. And somehow I played his nurse. I didn't even know how any of this happened. And they're like, play a gay nurse. I know.

I was like, I don't think I was playing gay in this one. I normally did. But I think this one I was supposed to be. I don't know, but I was a nurse. I don't even remember what I was doing. And you were, you were, Heather McDonald. You were our, oh, and I was asking like about a medical thing.

Yeah. And then wherever we went, it was such an interesting place. It was this place that had all these different sets. Yeah. So it was like what, like literally here's the hospital room that you could do or a doctor's office. Here's a court scene. Here's a, and kind of cool. And so I was like, oh my God, like, this is so great.

You could just like rent this out. Anyway. So we did. So anyway. worked with him. I remember him telling me during a break. He told me about Matt Lauer. He's like, Matt Lauer is the next one tomorrow. He's going down. I heard it. He got it. I heard it first. And how much time went between him telling you? Like the next day. Oh. Yeah. It came. It broke the Matt Lauer stuff. Anyway. So yeah. Do you think that Lauer's ever going to come back? He says he wants to

come back or just a podcast. I mean, has he done that yet? Yeah. He keeps. I mean, I don't think he will. I think to him, it's really beneath him. Though in the past, like, I saw this, like, an interview that he did with Corey Feldman and stuff. He was fucking great. He was really good. Matt Lauer was really good at, like, like, getting under people's skin and asking the hard questions. Well, he was also, yeah, I mean. I mean, I don't care if he was a dick or, you know, like him on the today.

Like, he was good. Yeah. Like, I don't, you know, but again, you don't need him back. It's 10 years later. it obviously had all those problematic things with harassment. But yeah, I'm like, so I think his ego, I think he's got such an ego. I just don't think he can bring himself. Maybe now that we're in the golden globes and things, maybe now he can.

But I'm sure he said, has said no to like, you know, every year his agent probably has brought him some amazing deal. And he's been like, I haven't heard anything about him in a while. Yeah, anyway. So what are the, that's the only? Or he just doesn't want to work. Like, I mean, why? Why?

It's 70 years old or whatever he is. Why do you have to do anything? He's got, but the only thing was, okay, if you do a great podcast, imagine this, I'm Matt's agent. Hi, Matt, how are you? What are you doing? Hey, what's going down? Long time, I haven't heard from you. Well, I've got the whole team here.

Okay. Hi, Matt. Hey, Susan. It's Josh over here. We haven't met, but I'm really excited to talk to you. Hey, Josh. How are you? Happy you're on the team.

What's happening? Well, obviously, you know. know that we're huge fans. And we feel that 2026 is a year for the Matt Lauer takeover. Oh, I like that. You know, I don't know if you're aware,

but your old interview clips have gone viral on TikTok. Which ones? The ones where I asked Dan Hathaway about her looking up her skirt or something? He's had some tough ones. Oh, well, yeah, there's been some of that, but there's also been some really great ones. Oh. And we have

been talking to some people that are really excited in the audio visual space. Okay. They're not going to say podcast. I'm not saying podcast. I'm just going to ease you in. Yeah. It's the audio visual space.

And, you know, one thing that is not going to be taken by AI is authentic personalities. And people are wondering what has Matt Lauer been up to? Where is Matt Lauer? Oh, remember? I used to do that. Yeah. Yeah. And where you've been is in your beautiful home in the Hamptons.

Uh-huh. And I've got, um, Eberdon here. Eberon, say hello. Hey, Evadon. How are you? Evadon is, can be on your property within an hour. And he has a recording equipment? He is going to, he set up any room to have your own podcast.

We're going to get a neon sign. Yeah, behind me like. Where is Matt Lauer here is the name we came up with? Oh, I love it. And, you know, we're going to get you a co-host. Oh. We thought about a woman. We thought, yeah.

And we're not going to go with a gay guy either. Oh, okay. Who's going to be? We have found a, what would you give him as a co-host? Dr. Oz. No. Who could we get as a co-host that would be like safe? Mm.

Who? A lesbian woman. Oh, Rachel Maddow. But she's got a joke. No, a lesbian woman who... Okay. A lesbian woman who's also a sports star. We're going to find one for you.

That hasn't exploded yet. Yeah. So like a WNBA player maybe or something like that? Yeah, or tennis or something or whatever. And that's going to be your co-host. And you guys are going to just do hot topics. You're going to talk about funny things. and it's going to be one hour a day,

one hour out of your week. One hour out of your week. Do you think you could do that? I think I could probably pull that off, yeah. Okay, we have an offer for you. It's a little low. We're going to get it up. Okay.

It's a minimum of four million a year. Oh, well. Once a week. But you only have to do 20 episodes for the year. Oh, I'll take it. I'll take it. Let's bring Send Mondano right over. We'll start now.

Yeah, I mean, I feel like we feel. fix like four people's careers here. I know. We just got an agent, a big commission. Yeah. I do so much for people. It goes nowhere.

Is that old? Anyway, he says don't drink for, don't drink alcohol for breakfast. Don't have any alcohol in the morning. So that's pretty broad. I mean, he wants to keep this business going. Where are you on drinking these days?

How many? What, like, I don't like to count it. Oh. You know, I go, I right now am in the middle of wet January. Well, wet January, yeah. A lot of people go on the other direction.

Yeah, dry January. I like to stand out. Are you still just wine? No. No, I think you were wine. I like everything. Oh, really? I like a exciting tequila drink.

Okay. Right now I'm into this one at my club called No Way Rose. It's a rosé tequila by Adam Levine. Oh, really? And they created some yummy juices that went with it. I don't know. It's delicious. A rosé tequila.

It's delicious. With like some exciting fruit juice. Yeah. Of course I love Romauer Chardonnay. He's my favorite. I love a cab, but I found, I remember my mom being like red wine gives me a headache. Yeah. And I think honestly, it doesn't.

That does not agree with me as much as in my age. Okay. So I think it's like and I don't like to drink for breakfast, but I like a litter. Not to sound like Amy Poller that did a whole episode with Goddoth Paltrow about going to dinner early. But I like a linner. which is like an early dinner and if I'm going to have a drink I like to have it like on a Saturday

like earlier in the day not breakfast like start at like four or five I just have a cup well maybe earlier than that but anyway are you out at your club here or you have the house?

Yes my whole thing is I'm trying not to drink at the house like it has to be a reason right but then Peter's like why are you drinking at the club when you could just have a bottle of wine here and it's a lot less expensive

it's no fun I'm like, yeah, I'm like, because the whole point is like having nights where you don't crack anything open. Yeah. You know, it's like very much days of wine and roses with Peter and I. If someone opens the wine and throw the bottle out of it. So I'm like, can we just not like open to anything? I definitely think everyone, you know, there's no reason to, everyone should be cutting back. But God, you know what?

No, it's just like the world is ending. Enjoy your life. Just enjoy. What is it going to matter? No, it's not. If you're sober for all of January, if you're going to start up in February. Why not? This is what I've decided.

It used to be, don't get wasted. Just have a, like, enjoy a glass of wine with dinner. No, now I'm the opposite. Now I think. Get wasted? I say, in college, my friends used to say, let's not drink tonight. Let's save it up for tomorrow. Now I'm going back to college.

And I think, why I have a glass of wine or one drink when you're not even going to catch a buzz? Why waste those 300 calories? Why not wait and then just really have it like a rip at night? That's a good attitude. Have like one night where you really party. Take whatever you need to take. Buy talks, a little something to don't get hung over.

I don't really get hung over anymore. And I never get sick from it. Yeah. A true alcoholic. Yeah. A true alcoholic, maybe. But no, I'd rather just have like one really fun night.

Good. And then be good for like four days after that. Right. I mean, you know, I keep reading these things that nobody's drinking anymore and whatever else. So yeah, I'm just curious. I mean, I definitely think it's where people are at. It's definitely not, there's definitely no benefit from it at all.

But there is. Here's the thing. What's the benefit? Happiness. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like that says a benefit. Like I don't even really drink that much.

But it's fun to be out and have a drink here and there. I don't know how I could stay at things for a long time. If I'm not enjoying having a drink or looking forward to the next one. Right. I wouldn't go out. I would stay 15, 25 minutes. Like when a night is a really fun night and it goes longer than two hours, it's because there was drinking and talking and you were not boring me.

Yeah. You know? What do you have to talk about? Now I'm sitting down at the McDonald's having a couple of drinks. What do I need to talk about? We talk about. We talk about anything. Like we talk about the news.

I mean, I talk about things I can't talk about in the show. Yeah, right, right. And maybe some darker things or whatever. Talk about families and kids and gossip about, like, people that I wouldn't want to talk about. Gossip of, like, people. Yeah, like people we know and whatever like that is. It's my favorite. Yeah, just stuff like that.

Shit, you got to talk shit. Yeah, like some shit talking, some funny, like whatever. Well, that's the thing, going back to dad groups and mom groups and stuff. Sometimes I go back to my wife, you're like, how well, nobody talks shit, you know? So it's no fun. Like I don't want to talk about anything they're talking about. Yeah. I don't talk about you talk shit.

I have been in situations where it's too much kid talk. Oh, it's the worst. And I'm in it. And I also like I don't want to hear about where your kid is thinking about going to college. What were your three? Because I already lived through it and I'm over it. I totally get it. Yeah.

Back in Chelsea that you had three rules that you could not talk about. One of them was how you got to work. got here. The route to work. The route and the traffic and the route. There was traffic. I went this way instead. Any kind of ailment.

Went down victory instead of the 405. Any kind of ailment. I'm with you on that. That you have, that you got like, well, I'll tell you, I had a pulled ligament.

The surgery, you just got surgery to my, just come out of, I don't know what the third one was. It was the third. I forgot what it was now. Yeah, it's definitely those two.

Some sports or something. Barbie Mattel has added an autistic Barbie to the doll line. She has to wear earphones, headphones. She has a, I guess it's a spinner that sometimes autistic kids, a fidget spinner. And she's very cute. Now, like one of the articles that was written was like, the doll avoids eye contact. That was in the, and I thought that was kind of a mean thing to say. But how could, how could that? I know. I think it was like, I think it was a snarky headline. I think all this stuff is good. I mean, this one woman wrote, as a 53-year-old mom who loved Barbies,

I have an autistic daughter, and I'm excited for her to see this and be like, oh, I had that thing, especially if your daughter has that fidget thing. Right. But, you know. Can't you just take the regular Barbie and tell your daughter, this Barbie's autistic? Because it looks. Oh, my God, you're right. There's no look.

The look is not different. There is a Barbie with a Down syndrome Barbie? There is. Okay. That's good. And that looks a little different. And then, of course, there's, we have it. I think I bought it by accident.

I didn't know it was because in the package, it didn't look like it was. But it has vitiligo, like a skin. Oh, yeah, based on the model. Yeah, not model. So my daughter has a Vitaleigo Barbie. She wanted it. No, she wanted it.

I got her for her. Oh, okay. Accidentally. I thought it was regular Barbie, but it's Vitalego Barby. Oh. So we have fun with it. Of course, this is like going back to what you said.

American Girlie. Can't talk about that. The things I say on the podcast. Well, like my American girl dolls, McKinsey, who is my daughter, who is half Asian, she, my stepdaughter technically, and she was buried into the American girl stuff. And I loved it. And the American girl stuff, they all have like a backstory. So there's like one that grew up in the prairie and it's good because it's like historical stuff.

Like a little book comes with it. Right. And she wanted Addie, who was a slave. A slave? She was. But like, okay. Yeah. She was a little black girl that was a slave.

Like a slave. Oh, okay. No, she was a real slave. She wasn't like a sex trafficked. No, she was a slave in like the 1800s. Got it. And, you know, like she came with like a sadder bed, everything. Yeah.

And I was like, but why don't you want this cute Asian doll who was one that, she lived in San Francisco. Oh, what a life. It was from the 70s. Okay. Her parents were divorced. Oh, okay. And I was like, this is like, don't you.

Wait, that was her backstory? Yeah. Divorced parents from San Francisco in the 70s. And she was Asian. Yeah. But McKinsey's like, no, I want to own this one. And I was like, let's not say own. Like I just.

Oh, yeah. I don't know. It comes with a lot of. Okay. Yeah. How are they doing American girl? Still a thing? My daughter has no interest.

Yeah, at least. I don't know if that's changing. It's very expensive. So be happy that not. Yeah. But it is cute. When you go to the grove, there's a hospital there. They'll, like, if your dog gets hurt, she can get her hair done.

She can sit at the table and eat with you. And, I mean, that's a lot better than the story I did last week, which is about, you know, women that just by these expense of real life like dolls that are, like, heavy and stuff. And they act like their moms. A table for three. I have a slave with me and an Asian girl from the 70s. Table for three.

Everyone. So you put them, they have their little, like, you know how you'd put like a child's seat on a table? They have it for the dolls. I've seen it. Yeah. For the dolls. And, yeah, but then all of a sudden one day she's like, no, I don't want this anymore. Like she'd give me the, and then I was like, okay, now what do I do with the doll, the dress?

And then, you know, my sister's daughter wasn't as into it, but we still gave it to her for a while. Okay. Yeah. You know. I mean, eventually you just throw all this shit out, right? I mean, that's kind of. Yeah. I mean, you should give them away.

with the Thomas the train and all that stuff. Right. Yeah. Then, but yeah, it's cute. Okay. Now,

I went down this TikTok route of Dak Shepherd, also Golden Globe nominee. For his podcast, yeah. Yeah, armchair expert. And, you know,

he's been doing a long time. He's a very popular podcast. He has a female site co-host, but he also has Kristen Bell on it a lot. I've never been a guest. Never been asked to. I don't know. that I've even tried to, so I'm not like out to rip on him.

I have never really listened to much of it, just that I knew it was super popular. But he had Cher on who my God. Talk about someone that looks great. Her voice has never changed. And as someone who uses my voice, I hope that my voice doesn't turn into old lady voice. Yeah, she doesn't really have old lady voice. She doesn't. And she's like 80, one or something.

Uh-huh. And it was some controversy that when she was on Santa Live a few weeks ago, she was being auto-tuned or lip-syncing. Oh, she did it. She's saying? That's what they, there was, there was controversy. Okay, singing on stage is one thing that you are going to lose your energy.

I mean, I do one song of karaoke and I'm out of breath. So like singing is a whole other thing than just talking. But I'm seeing her voice still, she just sounds exactly like she always has, like sure, you know. And so she's sitting there and she's with Kristen and they're asking your questions.

And the clips have gone viral and people are like, have gone i've ended up on a tic-tuck route of a lot of people and this has been a while thinking that you know when you do podcasting with your spouse it is you really are stepping into the marriage you are seeing what is going on and now we can sit back and the same thing happens with reality shows and now other people can analyze someone else's marriage and a marriage is always different it, you know, like, so they think that he is a little scary, that, you know, she was placating him because he asked Cher, who would you rather see Kristen with than me? And Cher's like, what? Why are you asking me this? And people are like, what? You know, and Kristen's like, oh, he's, you know, he's just being

self-deprecating. And so then people, then it would switch to like someone analyzing it, like on TikTok going, I've lived with a man like this. He's going, he's going to, you know, he's going to, a punisher for this. He's setting it up, his insecurity, blah, blah, blah. But then the other part of me is like, you know what, they have their own weird thing going and they've been married 18 years and they seem to be doing fine. I feel, I'm going to go with that one. Yeah. I've met Dachshapard a couple times and he seems like a pretty nice guy. I could be wrong, but I don't know. I just think when you expose yourself for that many hours and your and your career is podcasting or a reality show, whatever, where you really are just being yourself. Yeah. Anybody can pick a

something you're saying and say Oh yeah She hates her husband Right You know she hates being a mom She just said she was happy When the mom time was over with You know like anyone could

Right And it's just like well what are we gonna go I saw a clip where she She said something along the lines of I don't get what she sees in you or something Is that where it started? Yeah Yeah so

And I also just think that's funny Share is hilarious She was being funny She's being hilarious Like her thing has always been She's kind of like Tells it like it is kind of on shows.

She called Let Him in an asshole years ago on the show. I mean, she really is a queen. And whatever plastic surgery she's had over the years, she still looks great. Yeah. And then, you know,

she's supposedly going to marry or she's been with for a long time. Amber Rose's ex. Oh, is that? She's with a guy who's 38. Yeah. And I've said this. If I was Amber Rose,

I would be thrilled that my, the father of my younger kid, was with Cher. She's smart, she's brilliant, she's raised kids. Yeah. She has a shit ton of money. I mean, wouldn't you rather have your guy be with Cher than like some only fans,

ho that's going to be like not watching your kid while she films yourself, shake her ass? Like, it's a perfect person. Yeah, I agree. So, I'm a big fan. Yeah. So what are they saying about that Jack Shepherd? That he's evil or something?

They think that he's narcissistic. They think that, you know, all these things that they've analyzed. there was a time where she was really into Dax and he was dating someone else and he didn't want her. And then he broke up with that person, whoever it was, who was another star. So then they've joked that he like settled for her. And then there's a video where he is talking where he's like, you know, it's not great being with someone like Kristen who, you know, has to stop the car to get a dog that's not on a leash and invite a bunch of people over. So he's like complimenting her.

Right. I see that as him being funny. It is funny. It's funny. Everybody's an idiot. He's like, my wife is a better human than me. There's a bunch of,

there's a whole world of humorless boars out there. Yeah. They've got nothing better to do, but come, you know, they don't get the joke. And if you don't get the joke,

that's on you. And he said the first episode he ever did was he made her do it, you know? And they, they bitched the whole time because they were like, arguing and they've been together 18 years

and she didn't want to do it. And she's like, what is this? And so then they were, they were both like, well, maybe we shouldn't put this out. But he decided to. And that is what skyrocketed the podcast because they're like, oh, my God, we got to see this real side because everybody bitches. Absolutely.

I mean, it's very rare. And there's a handful of people that are like, my parents had the most loving, fabulous relationship. And then they're mad at them because they're like, well, you gave me unrealistic expectations and that's why I'm single. Like, you can't win. But it's very rare that nobody. That everybody's just super lovely to each other every second. I remember, I don't know if you do, that he hosted one time Chelsea lately when she wasn't there. Chelsea was not there.

Remember he was a little of a guest hosts. I do. And we always had this issue anytime we had a guest host. We had quite a few of them over the years. And Dax being one of them. And we always, as writers, we'd have to pitch to them. And we would pitch like Chelsea are what we would do for 1,000 shows. And they weren't, they didn't know.

But it was just, it was just bullying and cruelty. He had, yeah, exactly. But they didn't know that. And I think his movie Chips had bombed or something. And we like, all had like 15 chips sucked jokes. And he was just like, what? And we're like, you had a dumb movie who did chips? Like, let's talk about that.

And I remember he was like, well, a lot of people worked very hard on that movie. And I think that would be disrespectful to them. We're like, oh, it's going to be a long day. You know, he's one of those guys. So that's how. But yeah, he was still great and he's right. Yeah. Sometimes even now, more and more, even in this job, which we rip on people and stuff, I do take an extra couple seconds.

So I have evolved as Manifest Mama. I do take a couple moments before I comment or think to say, well, now wait a minute. Like, if someone sees this or whatever. Right. Why comment on that under this post about? someone's outfit or whatever. Like I covered the outfits of the Golden Globes. And I still think I said, I listened back and I'm like, okay, I wasn't mean.

I was being interesting. You know, you could still be interesting. I'm like, I still think she's a great actress, but I'm like, this hair was not right. You know, whatever. And I think we've both evolved. I mean, let's face it. Yeah, like we've realized. We could have done 25 minutes on autistic Barbie, but we didn't.

You know what I mean? We've evolved. Amazing. What do you think of this whole nickel, nickel up? Peltz, who is married to Brooklyn. Beckham. Their oldest son is married to a beautiful girl. I think she comes from a prominent family.

She does. She comes from a Russian oligarch. And they had a, you know, big, lovely wedding and everything. But it's been like a year and a half that he has like not been part of the family. And she has scraped every photo of the Beckman, Beckham. Beckham. Beckham, sorry, of the Beckham family from the Instagram. Oh, yeah.

I keep hearing different things that they were invited, then they're not invited. They didn't go to his 50th birthday. They didn't spend the holidays together. The other thing I just heard was he's like, look, maybe we can get back together, but I don't like it discussed on social media about me. I don't like you tagging me in things.

If we're going to do this, we're going to do it separate. Who says that? That's what allegedly he's saying to his friends, what it is, like why they're not connecting back with the family. Oh, okay. I just think this is just so sad. And I have lived this with siblings and stuff like that. So sometimes it just isn't repairable, but in this new way of like, you know,

oh my God, mental health and I need to like cut off people. Just as a parent with like kids getting older and right. It's just very scary that you would think that the classic like, oh my God, ever since she married that man or he married that woman. and now that we don't have actus to our child anymore. Yeah. And I don't know. Like what do you do?

It is, I mean, you know, getting like in-laws involved in things is, it's tough. In-laws. If anybody decides to marry my kids. Okay. I will be kissing that ass of the in-laws. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Yeah?

I will love. whoever that person is, I will be completely accommodating. I mean, because I don't want it to be ever to get to this. Yeah. Where the person is like, no, your mom always makes it. Every Christmas, we have to go to your mom. Like, I just don't ever want that because then you can't get past it. Right.

So it's like this year, McKenzie has a boyfriend and she, it was Christmas Eve. And God protected me because I went and made a reservation for 6 p.m. And they said it was full. So I said, oh, I guess we'll do it at three. And then she's like, oh, that's great because we're supposed to go to her boyfriend's family's house in Brentwood for dinner. Oh. I'm like perfect. Yeah.

Because they were at our house like for Thanksgiving. So I felt his mom for gave up Thanksgiving. Oh, got you. She's probably the same way. She only has one kid. Yeah. So she's probably like, I don't want to ever, in case they get married. Like, I don't want to ever like be the mom that like took over.

whatever. So I think you just have to be so. Yeah. And if it's like your way, if it's, you know, the wedding day, I will go to the bride

and be like, what color do you want me to wear? I want you to approve my dress bride. This is the way. Yes, I don't want to be overstepping the bride. And then when you give birth, I am never going to insist to be in that room.

Is that happen? Yes. There's mothers of sons that are like, I want to be there. And not unless, and even if she asks you, you might want to be like, I think it's really sweet that you asked me, but you know what?

I want that to be your time with your husband or your time with just your husband and just your mom or whatever. As the mother, just like, God, don't fuck this up. You spent this whole time raising this kid and now you're not going to have like the next chapter because you demanded, you wanted it your way, or you got your feelings hurt.

Isn't there another kid too? Don't they have another kid too? No, they have three boys and a daughter. Yeah, okay. So that's also sad. Right. Like that he's not part of the. Yeah.

And then when there's that much money, it's not like anybody has to work. No. It's not like anyone has to have a passion or anything. Yeah. So you just need to show up at like chateaus for weeks at a time and hang out. Sounds lovely. Oh, my God. It's not a life I have a lead.

I mean, I tell my daughter this sometimes. Like, where does? doing fine. I don't think she knows. They never know. I know. I know. They don't know, especially if they have their own plane. They don't know. It's just like getting in a car. It's just like a dog. Yeah. Dog doesn't know that it's going on a plane.

Right. A dog just thinks it's going in a different kind of car. Right. Doesn't know. Yeah. So it's like a kid is like, oh, isn't this how everyone travels with five bodyguards and you don't have to wait in an airport? Like, why would they know? They need to know. Just like there's somebody that maybe has never been on a plane and they're in buses. Yeah.

And, you know, like, I don't, oh, you're right. There's people that can only travel by bus, like, whatever. My daughter said to us the other day, she goes, I don't know what sand I like the most. Hawaii, the Hamptons or Malibu? I said, you little fuck. You know what sand I was in? Sandbox. Dirt.

It was dirt. Yeah, but whatever. What did she decide, though? I need to know. She seems to like the Hampton's the best. Because it's softer and it's whiter. It's whiter. Yeah.

It's not as granular or little toes. Yeah, exactly. It's much softer. Yeah, I'll definitely take that East Coast. I agree. I agree with her. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm glad I was able to show her different sands throughout life. What a guy. So true. Yeah. Okay. Madonna is just signed a $10 million deal with Netflix for a seven-episode mini-series that will chronicle her artistic and personal journey. Okay, but who's doing, isn't there a scripted show that, that, that girl is playing her?

That was supposed to be a movie. Okay. That was written by, there was a whole years ago. And people were like, oh, wow. Diablo Cody was involved. She was going to, she wrote it. Oh. And that went away.

And then there was the girl from, yeah, the blonde girl who was. The girl who played the Anadelvie. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Then she was going to play her well. I thought that was a good match. Now, I think that one went away. And then. Because I heard it was like she was too involved in the script.

Yes. And, you know, like, you know, of course, if that's, if you're Madonna, you're going to make yourself look great in every single moment, every breakup, every scene, every, you know, whatever. And maybe so there was creative difference. I mean, I've, I read this story about her potentially having a Netflix show, which I don't know if it's true or not. But I think the $10 million is kind of low. For a seven, for a seven episode miniseries, I agree. You hear these numbers throwing around of Netflix.

It's like, this guy got $70 million for a Netflix special comedians and stuff like that. Like, I saw 10 million for Madonna. That's got to be a misprint or something, right? To get Madonna to do a TV show? I mean, I will watch it.

I have been fascinated by Madonna my entire life. I always said she's the one person I want. I imagine. If someone said, who's your dream guest, which people have asked, it's Madonna. Right.

Like I, that is my bucket list. If someone knows Madonna, if there's any way I could interview her, I used to, anytime she was, you know, she was, it was so special when you'd see her, like, on Oprah, because she'd only come on, like, once every three years. She didn't do a lot of interviews. And I just, like, loved her music and everything.

And now I just, yeah, I have so many questions about her kids. I follow her son, Rocco. Oh, really? He's a very established painter. Yeah, his painter, yeah. And he's kind of funny, and he shows her a lot, like he films her. Right. And the other day he had some showing of his,

art and he had both the parents there, which is really lovely because there was a time where... Guy Richie's the dad. Guy Richie, the director, there was a time where like there was some controversy where he didn't want to live with her. He didn't want to be with the dancers on tour. Yeah. And he was living with the dad. And it's lovely to see that even if that did exist and it was difficult, now he's an adult.

He appreciates both of them. Right. You know, you go through those stages of things. Yeah. And then she has the twin daughters or maybe they're not twins, but she's two daughters she adopted, then she has, and the boy. and then she's got the young boyfriend Yeah

The new face A bit I saw it, it's toned down a little bit It toned down and she looks amazing Yeah Yeah But she's still every now and again Has the like the gold teeth and stuff

Wait I want to show you this before we go Okay Because All right here's a photo of A cover photo of West Lake Malibu Lifestyle magazine Okay sure I covered up the name who it is

I know who it is Because I saw it already However I Darn it No, I thought it was Trish Pettus. Yes. Do you know how that is? Yes, Trisha Pettis.

That's what I thought it was. Which would totally make sense because Trisha Pettus lives out here. Well, that's why I clicked on it because I thought it was her. It is not. I know. I was shocked. It's candy spelling. But it looks like kind of a black person, but with a white.

This one? Yes. You know what? You know what? You know what she could look like Giselle. Giselle. She could look like a, what is Giselle. Yeah, Giselle on Real House, that's Potomac.

Yeah. Um, she, this is crazy. So I had to mealy had to go to the thing. And it's not Candy's fault. And Candy is 80 and then her in person. She looks great. She, but she's 80. Doesn't look is going to share.

You would never know that's Candy Spelling. I mean, it doesn't even look like that. I mean, it's one thing to touch up a little. But I mean, look at this. Yeah. I mean, come on. It's embarrassing. If somebody, I mean, there's been time where somebody has done that.

to me and I'm like no please dear God right like you can't you cannot like sometimes when I have friends like do the jushing because I don't do the jushing and then I'm like all my all of a sudden my teeth like literally what the difference is is they make my lips and my teeth look fuller yeah lips and the teeth whiter and but I'm like whatever if you like it I like it but I purposely don't do that so that when people meet me in person they're like oh my god you're prettier in person instead of like what's the that monster coming outside. You probably haven't dealt with it yet,

but I know you're going to go back out on the road and you're going to see it. Yeah. Comedy clubs now are doing a weird thing where they're using AI pictures. Oh, my God, we just had that for the meet and greet in Vegas. Okay. They just asked, give me an AI,

give me a photo of Heather McDonald. And it's like a completely different person wearing the red dress. I am going to be in Seattle on Thursday night and Portland. Well, this would already happen. But Thursday and I'll be in Seattle. Emerald City Comedy Club Seattle

Come see me You should have seen the AI picture They Because they take It's like when you get that caricature On yourself at amusement park They take you know Everything you've been sensitive

About your entire life And enhance it And that's what they did It's just like oh Well like what is that freakish picture of me That they used on the poster No like this is what I look like in the photo Like I'm just gonna do like a different face

I was like this like Yeah I mean, it's like a, it is wild. Like it's like a little off. Yeah, it's a little off. And in the case of mine,

it was way off. I mean, I think it is way off. I will also find that, I think we have it somewhere. Yeah. And we will show it. But,

um, I mean, the neck. I mean, and the hair is very useful to begin with. Of course. Yeah. So it's like she's got like a wig on and I mean,

it's just come on already. Um, they're casting. I came across this. from executive producers to secret lives of Mormon wives and the McDee McBee dynasty

bold unapologetic fun confident women now casting they're looking for you from across the U.S. who have roots in and around or an affinity for the Church of Latter-day Saints or other religious communities

so now there's going to be like Mormon wives of San Diego Mormon wives and they like so are you strong vibrant outspoken and ready to to potentially share your life, your voice, and your story on a possible reality series? Are you newly converted or have recently left the church?

Oh, so they want controversy with the church. Do you have a friend group with a big personalities and even bigger stories? You might be perfect for TV. That, the way they wrote that would make a young person go, you're right. I might be perfect for TV. I can believe they're still doing Kat. Like, you feel like it's going away. Am I crazy?

What? reality shows like that? Yeah, just like a cable TV reality. No, I think what it is is younger people, they're so used to having their whole life out there. Right. That going the next step and basically just having someone else edit their life because they've showed it so much.

And then that leads to just more opportunities in the job that they're trying to do, which is influencer, it makes perfect sense. Got it. Yeah. Even though to like ruin their life, they're like, I don't care. I wasn't planning on staying married to this person the whole time anyway.

Yeah. So who cares? Yeah. So that's happening. Well, Chris, tell everybody where they can find you. Come over and the next couple weeks. Next couple of weeks. So this weekend.

This weekend, well, I'm Thursday night. I'll be at the Emerald City Comedy Club in Seattle. Okay. Then I'm coming to Rhode Island, a place I haven't been in a long time. I'm very excited to come back to the comedy connection in Rhode Island. violent comedy connection 22nd of january okay and 23rd and 24th of january i'm at roar comedy club in springfield massachusetts in the mgm casino and then on valentine's weekend it's always a big comedy club weekend spokane washington spokane comedy club uh the 12 13th and 14th of february

bring your lover on uh to spokane comedy or your polyamorous family or yeah it's actually i love i love the spokane comedy but wait where you when is portland you didn't say portland It's Wednesday, so you're not going to, it'll be over already. Oh, all right. Well, hopefully you went. You know what I mean? Like, that's why I put it on. That's right.

That's why you came here early. That's what I put it on the Facebook page. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Chris, cover to cover. It's my podcast. Cover to cover. People love it. You know, check it out.

Drake and Peter love it. Do they really listen to it or they know? No, they really do. To spy on what I say? No, like the regular stuff. Okay, because I never speak. It's like it's a dude. It's like it's, you know, it's different stuff than this.

Yeah. But some of it is the same. And you get Chris's perspective on, on pop culture and stuff. But you also have a different take on things. I mean, you go deep on stories. I, you know, like, looking for them. Sometimes I'm like, I got nothing. And then I just talk about, you know, my daily life.

Yeah. Yeah. It's always funny. But yeah, it's good. I love doing it. Thank God. Yes. And Patreon too.

And... Patryon. Chris is like me. He never flakes. He never blows it off. No. Constantly, I'm doing it. We wish.

We wish we could... How many episodes are you doing now? Like, you do a ton, right? I do Tuesday and Thursday's juicy scoop. Wednesday's juicy crimes. Yeah. Friday's Patreon. And then usually an extra drop over the weekend for the top tiers of Patreon.

So essentially five. And then you stay in this community for the most part. Always out on a boat. Always on a golf cart. Try. Yeah. I do, if I don't have to leave, I don't want to. Oh, I meant to bring up something to you.

What, please. And this is going to be controversial. I hope you're ready for it. I am. I, you went to a Spotify, Golden Globes party. Yes. I was not invited. Okay, I want to, I'm not mad because I probably wouldn't have went anyway.

Okay. However, I think you invited the most popular people on your podcast. Brandy and Julie? Yeah, well, no, me, but I wasn't invited. Okay. I want to tell you what happened. Uh-huh. Okay.

By the way, how was that party? First of all. Was it like a real? Was it the people who were nominated for podcast at the Golden Globes? I got invited because somebody that works at that party is a fan of Juicy Scoop. Right. That's the only reason. Okay.

There were very few podcasters there. Oh, so it wasn't like the smartless guys weren't there. I mean, Amy was there. Amy Poller was there and Mel Robbins. So I think they all probably got invites, but they didn't all go. And it wasn't like, let's invite great podcasters. It's literally some girl who put it together is a fan. Because I get there and I'm waiting for Brandy and Julie to come.

And my agent's there. She didn't invite me. She didn't think to invite me. And then the guy who works at my network was there. What are you doing here, Heather? No, they didn't invite me. They did not invite me. It's amazing.

The only reason I got invited is because, somebody that worked at that party. Yeah. And then I said, can I please, can I please take a branding Julie? Because they do like to go to those parties. No, I know. But I'm just saying, they do. Yeah.

And otherwise I would have, I probably would have just taken Drake. And Drake, you know, he doesn't care to go. Right. But I would have maybe had him take some photos. Thank God they came. And then, and then Zach Peter somehow probably the, some of his probably got invited. Because really there were very few people. in the podcast world that were that like actual podcasters that were invited it was mostly all ad

execs really and like network execs that put spotify together it was like they it was their party yeah basically to like how was the party any good it was very good really it was very good because there was uh live performances by shocka con amazing and it wasn't crowded john legend oh tons of food tons of bars it was a really good one like i think got invite but originally when I got it, I'd been invited to a Spotify party around Christmas time the last two years. Yeah. And I went the previous year and it wasn't, it was too young and it was like outside like a carnival and it was cold. Yeah.

So I chose not to go this Christmas. Okay. And so when this got invited, I did have, I had my guide, Derek, who helps with the PR. I say, can you just investigate this? Okay. Is it cocktail? Am I, should I wear boots in a coat? Am I going to be freezing?

Right. Is it worth going? Like you never know. And then you go and you're like, oh my God, this was so nice. I'm so glad I didn't blow it off. Sometimes you go to something and it sucks.

And sometimes you go to something expecting nothing and it's nice. That's Hollywood. Well, I want you to know, I'm kidding and I don't want you to invite me to things because I don't want to go anywhere. That was just, I was just joking. Okay.

Yeah. Because don't invite me. Now I am going to invite. No, that's what I, now I fear you're going to invite me and I'm going to feel obligated and I don't want to. So yeah, let's not.

Or what if they, since you do like music, If I ever get invited something else, I will just throw it out there. Here's what I will do. And I will let you decide. We had a good time at Duran Duran a couple of years ago. If you decide to go to Jennifer Lopez in Vegas, I'll come.

Done. Done. That'll be a date night for us. A night in Las Vegas with J-Lo. Okay. I'll do that. All right. Well, let's, we're going to make it happen.

We can make it happen. Okay. But if you want Brandi and Julia, I understand. So listen. No, that's fine. Listen, they are going to be in Minneapolis for a month. Oh, good. And I think that's the month when she's performing.

We're going to make it happen. We're going to get on the jet suites or something. Or we might drive. Out to Vegas, the two of us? Oh, my God, don't you dare. I think we should keep it simple. I think we should get our own way there. Yeah, that's how you do it.

Have a cute dinner. See you there. See you there. All right. Yeah. And then people are to start the rumors. Don't worry. He doesn't want anything to do with me.

He's like, I'll never forget that what time we were about to get on a plane together during the Chelsea lately days. And I go, oh my God, we're talking chatting. And then I go, wait, where's your seat? And it was like, you know, whatever, 17A. I'm like, I'm 17B.

And Chris had an iPad. He shuts the iPad. He goes, well, I guess I won't be needing this. Because I was just going to talk the whole time. Yeah. And then we shared a can of Pringles. We got a can of, they give us free Pringles because they recognize us

from Chelsea Lately. So if you people don't think show business pays off, You're wrong. We got free Pringles on that flight. Oh, my God, the best. Yeah. Thank you so much. And everybody,

you go to Heatherbittalllandnet. For me, for any... Frangola. Fun has all my dates coming up and more. And at Chris Fangola, for Instagrams and everything else. All of it. Love you.

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