Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Did Meghan and Harry Crash Kris’ Party, RHSLC with Zack Peter

Episode Date: November 13, 2025

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Zach Peter here with all the no filter scoop and opinions. He does not give a shit. And we're excited because you two are going to BravoCon this weekend. And you're coming to my show Friday night, which is the biggest part of the weekend, obviously. I feel like last time I saw you, I was like, no, I'm not going to Vegas. I'm not going to BravoCon. And then in the last like, all right, I guess I'm going to Vegas. Yeah. I mean, it'll be fun. I want to come and support you. It'll be fun. I'm excited because like you're coming to the show, Jacques, Chef Stew. Of course, Brady and Julie are going to be on stage so it's like we have our little fun crew and then it is it is really fun and we of course

we love all the people that listen and get into this dumb shit like we do um I of course have my show and I want to remind you guys you can now buy the digital streamer you'll have seven days to watch it so you can watch it at 10 p.m. on Friday November 14th or you can watch it the next day or watch it again or whatever but it's going to be very very funny and and lots of juicy stuff. I did have an incident yesterday that happened to me that I hope does not impact my weekend. What happened? I was playing pickleball. As one does these days. And I have never been athletic, but I have improved at pickleball. And I was actually playing like the best I'd ever played. And I was playing against these two women. And my son is 6'5 and he's very good because

all men are good at pickleball, but also the taller, whatever. It's just not that hard. And So they just kept hitting all the balls at me. And I was actually doing really well. And I was hitting like the high ones that I would normally let Drake get. I was getting. And it was the final point. And I just went a little too far. And I rolled my foot.

Then fell on my elbow. Then hit the back of my head. Thank God there was a female doctor there to check my eyes. Then there were two nice Canadians that got me ice. Okay. And everyone really seemed to care a lot. And, but, so I'm wearing my Reebok Real Housewives of Beverly Hills shoes because the pain is here. Okay.

It isn't that bad. Are you wearing those on stage? I want to wear my cute heels by Friday. So we're recording this Wednesday at 11. So I think I'll be able to do heels. Probably the rest of the time I'll be sporting these. But I can walk. I mean, I can walk.

I would have loved for you to pull like a Sutton's track and get the little stroller with your little leg and then the boot or a, Ramona, where you're just in the wheelchair? I told Drake. Just have Drake push you around Vegas. I said, listen, we do have a call today with all the MGM ground people where the show is. And I am going to ask about the access to a wheelchair. Because anyway, even if you're not crippled, you feel crippled after three days of BravoCon. I'm like, we're going to do it.

But it's going to be super fun. And you just go to Heather MacDonald.com. And you'll go to the tour and you'll see one. I think there's a handful of tickets left. if a lot of single tickets if you want to you know you won't be alone if you're in the audience of juicy scupers and um but then right there is the digital too okay let's get into some hot topics okay so we talked about the uh chris jenner epic party and then the news came out that kim and chris quietly deleted photos of megan markle and prince harry from

the 70th birthday bash so they removed it from the carousel which by the way as an instagram person who does carousel. I didn't know that you could go back and edit and take one out. I didn't either. And then when I learned that, I mean, I guess if you do go in, because you have the option to edit the photos after you post them, but I guess you have the option to delete one of the photos in the carousel. I never knew that?

Because sometimes I would do that, and you know how sometimes you do it and you would did like three in a row? And then I was like, whatever, who cares. Or the prop looks all off or something. I would love to go back and fix it. And I just like left it because I was like, yeah. So, of course, the thought was, oh my God. God, they deleted them because they're embarrassed that they're such unpopular people now,

Megan and Harry, that they didn't want them to. But then there's been talk that Harry wore this little like red poppy thing. You can see it in his, which is something that I don't know if Royals are supposed to do it. It's like a thing of remembrance and you're supposed to wear it for the entire month of November. And she was just wearing like a black turtleneck, like a sleek black dress. and she didn't have it. So the question is, did she or her people

then call Chris and Kim and say, can you delete those pictures before people realize I'm not wearing this like, this poppy thing? Which, by the way, I want to say,

if that's the case, then you're actually never being invited back because that is so fucking annoying. If they did a whole post and then got a call that they are their people now have to remove you,

now you're annoying. Well, now you're removed. from the list for all future events. But no, so, but they had just come from the baby to baby gala. And they were posing for photos at the baby. Like they came, Megan and Harry. They were at the baby to baby gala to support their best friend, Serena Williams, who met them for the first time that night.

And they, so they were there because they have the same clothes on, same outfits, posing for photos there. So everyone, all the theories about how, like, they wanted Chris and Kim to take down the photos. One, I think that would be stupid because all that does is piss off the Kardashians to make them go in and edit. Now they have to go do another thing. That is so annoying. Yeah.

So I don't know. I feel like it maybe was deliberate. My theory was like maybe they weren't invited to the party. Maybe they had like a publicist or a friend that's like, I'll get you in. And so they ended up crashing the party after the baby to baby gala. And then Chris and Kim were like, oh, they're here. And then when they found out that they crashed the party, maybe then they deleted them because they didn't want anything to do with them.

I don't know. In my day of going to the Christmas parties. Yeah. Did they ever delete you from the? No. But there was, oh, there was one time I got invited to a girl's dinner, birthday dinner, for Chris. And we were, somebody gave her like, Chris, you know, her birthday, obviously, November. So somebody gave her something that was like holiday or whatever.

And she was like, and we were all taking these photos. She knew we were all taking photos, only like 12 of us. And I posted it. And then at like 5.30 in the morning, I wake up. And she's like, oh, God, please remove that photo. I don't like it or something. I mean, if I tell you the heart in the throat, a trickle of pee in my bed, like, I was terrified. It's now, if anybody is like a bigger star than me, even if you're not, I'm always like, heart it.

Heart the photo that I can post. Either take it and give yourself bigger teeth. Do me. I don't care because I don't filter the, I don't do the filters on the photos. But if somebody, like sometimes I have some come to the show and they're really good at it. And I go, you take it. and then send me the when you want. And then everyone's like, oh my God, you look so gorgeous.

I'm like, yeah, because that's a fucking filter. And I don't do that. But I don't do that just because I'm not good at it. Like, I think it's a talent. And anyway, so I was like, I just, and then another time when I went to the Christmas parties, there was friends of ours that enjoyed getting a little too wasted. And one of, I won't just, because I don't want to figure out,

there was a couple. And one of them, like, left their phone, like, like where at the house. on Christmas Eve. So then Christmas Day, it was just a big rat fuck of like, while they're trying to open presents and they're recovering from their, you know,

$100,000 party that they invited you to that you walked away with a black and white kettle. Now it's like, okay, well, are you coming into the gate? Is someone bringing the phone to you? Like, it was just, and I was like, oh, those people are going to get off the list. And they were. I got to stay a couple more years.

But, I mean, there's little things like that that I'm like, the year that my sons were like wrestling in the fake snow near the real dear, I was like, I knew our days were numbered. Like, I just, it's just, so I don't know. So what do you think happened? Was it the poppy thing or was it the? No, I think they were party crashers. And I think the Kardashians are like, we don't like that energy.

So what do you mean? Because they, I think someone's, I think they got it. I think Megan pushed her way into the party. Was not originally on the invite list. Because like, Megan wasn't even invited to, this was Jeff Bezos's party. for Chris Jenner. Him and Lauren Sanchez hosted this for Chris

for her 70th birthday. Right, right, right. But they also, like, they don't even like Megan Markle is my point. They didn't even invite her to the wedding that all the celebs

were invited to and the Kardashians were at the wedding, the Bezos wedding. So, like, I'm trying to figure out how, like, I don't think the Bezos would have invited her and I don't think the Kardashians would have invited her.

So you think she knew about it because we did know, we knew a couple days before that it was at the Bezo Mansion. You think she just, was like, before we head home to Montecito, let's just do a little loop-de-loop. And once we show up, no one's going to say you can't come in. No one's going to say you can't come in.

And she probably knew, like, a publicist or somebody that was at the party that could help finagle her way in. So then who removed it? Do you think Chris and Kim removed it because they realized she was never invited and that pissed them off? Oh, that's a good theory. Because if you think about you're posing with photos for them and then you're like, oh, like, you know, and then you find out that they weren't even invited to the party and somehow

they snuck their way in like that's an immediate cross off the list i've talked about how i know some like info from some of the the like rich millennial people that they've tried to be friends with yeah and they do stuff like that they they're like we or at least they did oh we love aspen you know when are you not using your house and then all of a sudden they're they go okay fine you can use the house that week and then they're like and then what where do we get in the jet knowing they have a jet and now they're on a private jet that the rich person's paying for

and then they're like how did I get roped into it but the friendship doesn't continue past that it's like so it's a good grip it's a good grift and I think it's all through her and then he finalizes it

yeah like he does he does the finalization did you see what happened with her candles yes oh my god so this guy this guy who what's his name

Link Luke Lauren he's a friend He's a unique, funny guy. He's quite conservative, but blonde hair, gay, fashionable, but like, and he opened up the candle. He ordered it, and it didn't have a wick at all. Like, it wasn't that it was short. I mean, there was no wick.

And it's like, how much is it? Like, $18 or some ridiculous price that's a candle is a candle. Like, I mean. And there's no exchanges. You can't return it. So he's like, wait, I bought this. Funct product where there's no wick in the candle and then I can't even get my money back for it. Yeah. There's no one in light if there's nothing to do with it. And then I mean, remember when Karen

Hugar had the three wick? But then Wendy had the one wick. Wendy had one wick and then that's when Karen came out with the three wick. A three wick bigger deal. She's like, I have a big, my big wick energy, bigger candle. That is so funny. I think candles is just such an interesting, like, rich lady business to get into. But it's also just like so cheap to make the. those candles. And then to sell them, I did buy her wine. And the Rose. The Megan Marco Rose. How was it? It was fine. I mean, it was, I did a whole video about like how, because it's like, it was $90. Okay. Because you have to buy. 90 for a one bottle? Three, it's a minimum of three bottles. So you pick, 30, I have to say, 30 is kind

of a lot for Rose. That's like more than Whispering Angel. Yeah. Like, Rose is not an expensive thing. I think in total I paid $120 with shipping and handling, because shipping and handling is expensive. That's why also the wine business, that's why Heather DeBroke got out of Colette because she said it costs so much to ship it. She was like, oh, please, I just did that for a storyline. She's told me that. She's like, oh, come on. I'm like, what happens with your champagne?

How does that kind of work out? I think that's such a great product for you since you're into champagne. She's like, you know, it's not economical. I mean, it's not a wise business for someone to get into that doesn't truly have a winery, a way to distribute it, to have it get into a bunch of places. Yeah, I had my wine line for two years, and it was Housewives inspired canned wine. And it was not the biggest revenue generator, but it was good marketing. Yeah.

That's what you use it for. I mean, she used it for a storyline, but, like, it's good marketing that you are investing in that you know is good, like, for brand visibility. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I remember you sent me some. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think stuff like that, you know, like to put it in the right glass, have it be cold enough. Yeah.

And no one knows. Yeah. Like, where do you really tell a wine is bad? That's why I said. I was like, you can get, I was like, the wine is not bad. I go, but for $30 a bottle plus like $20 shipping and handy. And I was like, you can go to Trader Joe's and get $15 bottle of rosé that's just as good. Like I said, just make it really cold.

Have it just in a chilling bucket of ice. Yeah. Same with champagne. I feel like those two drinks, as long as they're really cold. Yeah. It tastes delicious. Like red wine, you should invest it. Right.

Red wine, I think you can pay good money for good red wine. But a rosé, I don't think you need to spend a ton of money on that. No. And same with Chardonnay. You need, Charonet needs to feel a little more expensive. But like a Sauvignon Blanc, a Pinot Grisio, that doesn't have to be as much. That's wine talk with Zach and Heather. Okay.

As you know, Kim did not pass the bar. Nothing to be ashamed of. Many of our best lawyers have had to take it multiple times, especially in California, which is the hardest bar. But as you know, she didn't go to law school. And she also is cursing chat GPT because she used that as a study guide. and they fed her some wrong information. But she's really pissed at the four psychics.

Yeah, I saw that. That told her that she would pass. And then this other, I saw this guy on TMZ that is a psychic. And he's like, normally psychic readings are 95% accurate. I'm like, what? And then he said, and what they're seeing is that she will pass, but maybe not this time. Eventually she will pass. I believe eventually she will pass.

You know, eventually she'll pass. She's not going to let it go. She's got to take it. It doesn't matter if it's three, four, or five times. That doesn't make you a bad lawyer. It's fucking hard. Yeah. But as far as the psychic things to go,

I think that is so funny that because four psychics said it would happen. I mean, you're paying the psychic. Yeah. And. Well, also, you don't need to be a psychic to know she will pass it eventually. Like, I feel like that's a cheat. Like to be like, well, we meant.

you'll pass it eventually. It's like, well, no shit. She's not going to give this up. She didn't go and invest in this whole law career only to throw in the bow, throw in the towel now. Yeah. But that's interesting. I didn't know that there was like an accuracy rate. Is it? I'm surprised it's not like 99.95% accuracy. Also, I'm surprised she's still going to psychics because I have some inside juicy scoop memory from my own of psychics with Kim. so when I was at Chelsea lately Chelsea had a psychic come and she had like a night

and she actually invited some celebrities that she had just you know just becoming friendly with and she kind of sought out people who had lost a parent okay so she Kelsey had lost her mom of course Robert Kardashian so Kim had come or maybe he put it together and Chelsea

maybe Chelsea didn't put together maybe Chelsea didn't put together maybe Chelsea Joseph's attending. And she liked psychics and stuff. I was always like, I think it's fun unless it's like they tell you whoever you're dating now, is there an M in their name? Well, then that's not the one for you.

It's just weird stuff like that. Where it like gets in your head, just stuff. But I always think like a medium is kind of better because it's like they're not going to tell you that your grandmother's pissed that you wear pants to the funeral. Like they're not going to be like, you know, it's going to always be like

she didn't suffer. She's happy. now she's running around in the fields. Yeah, yeah. Okay, but what this guy said to Kim, now this is a long time ago, this is before she was either Daining Reggie, she had not married Chris Humphreys yet. Okay. And he said, she said, I'm going to have children. And according to what Chelsea told me after in my memory, okay, he said, yes, but they will not be black. and all four of them are yeah so i mean there's someone who and this was like a tv psychic i'm not gonna say his name he was a tv psychic again it's my recollection and i but i remember i even said

it to chris i even said when she got engaged to chris humphreys yeah i said remember when kim went to that psychic because chris his dad is was black and his mom was white and so i was like Maybe he's right. Maybe she's going to have kids with him and they won't appear to be, you know. Well, he was wrong on that one. That was the 5% inaccuracy rate. So I'm like, there's so many wrong things. I mean, too, when I went to a psychic, there was one right thing.

And then I went back to that psychic. And there was later proved to be like four wrong things. See, so how do you know if you can trust a psychic? You can't. You just go for fun. I was at a Halloween party and there was a girl doing the tarot car. And I think the tarot cards are actually kind of fun. Yeah.

Because she was just like, ask it a question. And then she was like, okay, this is. And then any card you could analyze. Yeah. Like she'd be like, oh, this is the queen of, you know, this is a queen, but it's upside down. So you're a queen, but you feel like you're, you know, you're not in control of everything yet. You should read tarot cards, Heather. That's everybody.

Everybody feels like they're queen, but they're not in control of everything. It's the same thing like the fucking horoscopes, right? Like every description of a horoscope Like you can always like find a way They're generic enough to like fit it Right like I'm at Gemini But if you read me Virgo today I'd probably be like yeah that's totally me

Yeah Oh my I am a little feisty Oh wow I do wake up with it I am loyal to a fault Yeah Every single person on this earth Yeah Think they're loyal to a fault

Because they were like nice to one person That fucked him over Yeah I'm nice until you cross me That's so me Like that's every fucking horoscope ever. It's like when I'm a Gemini, they're like, you have two personalities. Sometimes

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Jen. Jen Affleck. Cousin of Ben Affleck. Yes. And then we have Whitney who became famous because she famously danced while her son was in the NICU. Yeah. And he's fine. She's had like two more baby scents and now she's like skinny and dancing really well.

And also Alex Earle, who is the queen of TikTok fame, who, um, dot to be mistaken by Alex Cooper, who took her under her wing. and then they broke up. Yeah. And they're both blonde and skinny and cute. Okay, so, but it's Alex Earle who's dancing. And Dylan Efron. And let's not forget, it's Alex Earl's stepmother who also was a sex worker who slept with the governor and ruined his career, but then married Alex's dad. Yeah.

And he's now on TikTok and everything herself and, you know, enjoying the life and seems to, you know, be a wonderful stepmother. So good for her. Okay. So, Andy Richter, who used to be the sidekick of Conan O'Brien's show for many, many years. Do you remember when he left for a minute? No, I never watched. I mean, I knew of him, but I'd never paid attention to him. I always thought it was really interesting.

So Conan O'Brien had his show. Yeah. Andy Richter was the lovable sidekick. He was the Chewy. And he, well, Chewy, really what it was was Johnny Carson had Ed McMahon. Right. and then it was like Chelsea decided to have a psychic

but having him off to the side was kind of like unique to our thing and of course the character of him and everything but so they always had a great rapport

he then got like a sitcom or had the opportunity to do a sitcom and Conan was like go do your thing and he had like a sitcom or he was like dad whatever and it didn't go and you can't blame the psychic

for wanting to do that but then Conan was nice to enough to bring them back. And so now Conan's late night show is not on anymore. He just does the podcast, right? I don't even know. I don't think so. I don't think it's on. If it is, it's on like TBS or something. No, I don't even think TBS exists anymore. But it went a long time. Andy Richter got asked to be on Dancing with the Stars. Yeah. And it's gone extremely far because the fans voted for him. What are your thoughts on that? First of all, you saying those words is such rage bait because the amount of fury that I have that Andy Richter has lasted in this competition

this long like Andy Richter so they had like Corey Feldman at the beginning and everybody knows when they announced the cast you're like okay these are going to be like the first few to go and it's always the old people right and Andy's like old and he's a big dude and like you know his ankles look like they hurt and so I wasn't expecting him to go far and anybody and so I have a group thread with my friends and we I don't watch the show live I watch the dances afterwards and I'll get like live updates from my friend on the East Coast and she'll like let me know what's going on on the show. And so with Andy every week, we're like, okay, Andy's going to go home.

And then he didn't go. And then, okay, well, Andy's going to go home. And then they sent home Jen from Mom Talk. And then we're like, okay, well, Andy has to go home next week. And then they send home Topanga. And that's what sent me into a fury. What was the thing about Topanga? Why do they, why do people think that Topanga, who was the star of girl, what was it, Boy Meets World?

old and she's done some other things since and she's cute, she's the mom now, when is she like 40 or something? Yeah. Why did people think that the judges were like against her or something? What was the controversy with that? I mean, there's so, people think that the judges

are biased to certain stress members. Yeah. I mean, they're critical. They give them critiques. And like, to be fair, they were like less critical of Andy who like couldn't even move. And they were a little more harsh on like Whitney or Jen or Topanga, like they just, they would critique them. And I think it's because they knew that they were more capable of moving.

I mean, it's always so funny. Yeah, it can't really be fair. Because if the man is the star. Yeah. And you have this girl that, you know, you can just lift up because she's tiny. And then she can spin around. So then you're watching the dance and you're like, well, this is a great dance. Or like a big basketball player again, who can like lift up the girl, do whatever.

And he can kind of. And then when it's really on the. girl to like do the salsa hit exactly right. It's easy you're right. Women once again, we're getting screwed over. Yeah. And so that's what they're saying. They're saying that the judges are sexist because they were

more critical of the women than of people like Andy. But I like he kept going through and then I went on TikTok and I found out that there's a whole community. I call them fannies for Andy but they call themselves fandies. But so the fannies for Andy

were literally going on TikTok and and saying we're going to vote for Andy so that we get him through the end. And then I found out, did you hear about Bobby Bones? No, who's Bobby Bones? Nobody knows. But so he won Dancing with the Stars back in 2018, and he was a terrible dancer,

and the fans voted him. How was he famous, though? How was he famous? I don't know, a chef or something. Nobody really heard of him. So it's more like the fandom saying, let's just see how much power we have. Yeah. Oh my God.

So if I ever get on, then the juicy scoopers will have to prove themselves. Yeah. But so now they've learned how to hack the TikTok algorithm. them so that they all find each other and then they know, okay, we're all going to vote for Andy and then they use all 12 of their devices to all vote for one person.

But do you even think they're Andy fans or they're just saying, can we do this? They're just in it for the fight. Like, there's nothing about Andy. I mean, he's a sweet dude and like... So I, so, okay, so we don't think there been fans of his for 20 years. We think they're just a group of people to see, like, let's see how far

we can make a very average, not super relevant person that doesn't have a huge, you you know, following right now. Yeah. That's kind of interesting and genius. I mean, they should have been watching his fucking sitcom and then he would still be on the air. But that's how you know they're not real fans of him. That's so interesting.

Well, because they're all so mad because like Whitney from Mormon wives, I think her and the crocodile son are going to go all the way to the end and they're going to be the top two. And the crocodile son, I love that you call him that because that's what I would call him. It's the, he's the son of Robert Irwin. Robert Irwin, who was the crocodile Dundee, who died tragically with. animals, right? Wasn't it like a spear? Like the spear of the fish went through? Yeah. I think it was like a stingray or something. Yeah. Stingray went through him. Yeah. Anyway, so he's the younger son and he's a babe. And so that's fun. Yeah, but so people are mad because Whitney from Mom Talk, she's a professional, or she was, her background was she was a professional dancer. Before the NICU dance. So they're

like, that's not fair because she can dance and people like Andy can't dance, but he's so nice and he's so likable. So they like rallied around Andy. And so when I found out that there was like an orchestrated campaign to get Andy to the end, I was not having it. And I started my own orchestrated campaign. I called it hashtag save Andy's knees because that poor man was struggling week after week. And I was like, this is now elder abuse. These people are diabolical to keep this poor man who, you know his agent told him like, you're only going to go to like the third week and you don't have to commit to long. And then here he is in the semifinals. He can dance. I always. ask about this and I've heard

different things. Same with special forces. Yeah. Special forces I think we have found out that whether you leave on your own volition or get kicked off the first day or the second to last day, you get the same amount. That's not dancing with the stars. So

how does dancing with stars work? I believe you don't get paid for the first one and so if you're the first to go I don't think you get anything. You must get a little something. Probably a little something. But I think after that you get like 10,000 per episode. And if you make it towards the end, that's when I think you can get up to like 400 grand

for, you know, making it that far. And then obviously there are winners if you get. Fainted. I mean, I, listen, I've talked to some people who have done it and they've been like, please kick me off. Like, there's just so much work. I'm dying physically in every way. And look, he's not in shape.

And when you see him, you know, dragging his feet around the dance floor as his partner's just like dance. She's doing all the moves. And he's kind of just like... I think this whole thing is hilarious and kind of fabulous. It was... But people got so fired up about it. Okay, so this was interesting.

Did you see that Prince Williams actually called the crocodile son? Yeah. For a special moment with Robert Irwin because I guess they sort of have met and bonded over losing parents young. Yeah. And I thought that was sweet. That was... See, Prince Harry could never. Nor would he ever.

Can you give us the latest on what is going on with... Blake and Justin, we're hearing different things, and I just want you to update our people. I mean, it's the never-ending story. So we're out of the discovery phase, and now everybody's just getting ready to take this to trial. There were a lot of headlines that came out that said Justin Baldoni was throwing in the towel, and he'd kind of given up, which isn't really true. So she's suing him for sexual harassment. He was suing her for defamation. And back in June is when the judge dismissed his case because they said, so basically when you, you make statements that are in a court filing, like in a lawsuit, you can't be sued for defamation

because it's protected under litigation privilege. So regardless of what she said, whether it was truthful or if they were just all complete lies, you can't be sued for defamation, you're protected from that. And so that's why she had to go into the New York Times because then that added like an additional layer of protection. Like it was all very smart and strategic. So essentially he couldn't sue her for defamation. That case got thrown out.

And so the deadline for him to file an amended complaint, if he wanted to keep fighting that, that deadline passed and that expired. But he made it clear back in June, like, I'm not going to move forward with that lawsuit. I'm going to fight her sexual harassment lawsuit. Trial is set for March of next year. And so there were a bunch of headlines that came out that ultimately were just inaccurate. And then his attorney, Brian Friedman, went on Harvey Levin's podcast and actually called out Harvey. And he's like, you guys reported this and it was completely inaccurate. And her was like, yeah, we did.

And we owned that. Like, we reported it and didn't report it fairly. And so, I mean, that was the biggest headline that came out. We're really just gearing up for trial, which has come March. But, I mean, she's not looking too good, nor is Ryan Reynolds. More text messages have come out that just really kind of corroborate that her team was very clear that, like, they weren't the ones putting out these bad headlines about her. They were all talking about it.

And they're like, oh, my God, did you see this headline? Oh, my God. Did you see the TikTokers are talking about her? Like, they seemed to relish in the fact that the internet hated her, but it didn't seem like they were deliberately planting anything or orchestrating any of this smear campaign. They were just loving that the internet was taking her down. So this girl, she covers it well too.

Elsie, yeah. Elsie. She was explaining on her Instagram today. Yes. That it comes down to this relationship between Stephanie Jones and Jennifer Abel. Stephanie Jones. own the PR company, Jennifer worked for Stephanie. Correct.

And at one point, Jennifer was trying to, like, steal clients to leave Stephanie. Yes. Well, those are kind of the allegation. So Jennifer worked with Stephanie at her PR firm. She was like one of the heads there. And so Jennifer was the one that represented Justin Baldoni and his film studio. So she was the one. that was doing PR for him and the movie it ends with us.

And so at some point, I guess Justin was concerned about Blake lively bringing forth these allegations of, you know, whatever was going on behind the scenes. And that's when he decides to hire this crisis PR manager, Melissa Nathan. And so then Jennifer started working with Melissa, and then they realized that Stephanie Jones, she wanted to be part of it because I guess she saw like the movie was doing really well. like there was a lot of good PR around there and a lot of her clients were dipping out like her company was starting to circle the drain a little bit

and so she kind of got into the mess I think Stephanie Jones is the one that spearheaded all of this so Justin Baldoni decided to leave Stephanie Jones and he wanted Jennifer able to come with him so she left but she left with Wayfair and Justin Baldoni Stephanie Jones was not happy because obviously it ends with us comes out it makes $300 million like that was a lucrative client that she could have had so at some point

And this is where the timeline gets a little murky and we'll see how this plays out at trial. But at some point, when Jennifer Abel left, Stephanie Jones had security confiscate her devices and basically keep her phone because she said it was a company phone. And it was on that phone that all of the text messages were

about them talking about Blake Lively, about Justin Baldoni. And so those text messages somehow Stephanie Jones gains access to them through Jennifer Abel's phone. And somehow those text messages end up in the hands Blake Lively, and the next thing you know, Blake Lively is launching this big legal warfare against them.

So was it that she gave it to Blake or was she subpoenaed by Blake's people to give it? So that's where it gets even shadier. So she says that she was subpoenaed by Blake. Stephanie Jones says that she was subpoenaed by Blake Lively, right? So then Justin Baldoni was like, okay, well, give us the subpoena. We need to see how legit this actually is because you took Jennifer Abel's phone and Jennifer Abel's like, that was my personal phone number. So a lot of the messages and contents that were on that phone

were my personal information, not company-owned information. And so there's a company called Van Zan Inc. And that's seemingly a shell company that Blake Lively owns or is the CEO of. So Van Zan Inc. decided to subpoena Stephanie Jones. But the lawsuit itself doesn't name any defendants. It was 10 John Does that they were suing for they said it was a breach of contract.

So they go to Stephanie Jones and say, we need your text messages because there's a breach of contract with some person that we can't tell you who it is, but just give us all the messages. So she handed over all the messages. The theory is that she had already shown them the messages. They just needed a legal way to obtain them.

So they used the shell company to file this fake lawsuit to get a subpoena to obtain the text messages. Because the second they got the text messages, they dropped that fake Vanzan lawsuit. Like they just withdrew it and didn't end up pursuing it. Okay. So it's like a shady way that they legally obtained those messages.

But how would you know to obtain those messages if you didn't know what was in those messages? But how they obtained it and the shadiness that went on from what they have now. Because I'm hearing from some other people that really follow it that are like, This is looking good for Blake now, in their opinion. Yeah. What is your... Now, I know that you have been, you know, covering it, and I think you've been covering it very fairly,

but if you were to say, you're definitely team, Justin. Do you feel... And you wouldn't be... Like, do you feel like this might not go in his favor? Listen, when it goes to trial, it's in the hands of the jury, and it can go either way. So I'm not confident of how the jury will ultimately decide. Right.

Because all we're getting are the pieces of information that are appearing on the docket. But, like, there's a lot of stuff that's redacted that we don't have access to. And listen, you can look at all of the information and you can sway it towards Blake and you can sway it towards Justin. Right. Where if you see the text messages of his team, you know, and they seem giddy about these mean videos that are going on on TikTok about her. Yeah, that looks bad because it looks like his team is relishing and the fact that the Internet's beating her up. But does that prove that they're behind it, not necessarily? Right. I mean, how many times have you in the business that we live in if you kind of are not a fan of someone or maybe you were friends at one time and now they're getting some, they have some social media stink on them that you haven't maybe written to your mutual friend and it's like, oh, karma's a bitch. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It doesn't mean that you did it. Doesn't mean that you put it out there like Elisa Barlow. It just means that, yeah, I'm a little bit dancing on this person's grave because they treated me horribly.

Right. And so that's why it'll ultimately come down to what does the jury think? Are these? And they have text messages where they are like, we can bury anyone. But then they put like laughy emojis with it where it's like they're being sarcastic. Yeah. And even though I think to us, oh my God, I'm sick of the story. We've talked about it. I don't think it'll be that hard to find a jury that doesn't follow this shit at all and can come in with unbiased fresh eyes. I don't think it'll be an impossibility. Like, like, Like an OJ trial was very hard. I think most people have tuned out to the case. They know the big overarching thing and now they're just kind of like, I don't really care because like at this point there's too much of the minutia. And even between the two of them, Jennifer Abel and Stephanie Jones, Jennifer Abel just this week filed a new motion for summary judgment that basically wants the judge to say, hey, if Blake Lively sues me and wins and I owe her money,

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to her Irish prince, Paul. They are engaged and she thought she was getting a new iPhone. It happened in an iPhone store. She got a ring. I don't know if people magazine was there or she just gave the photos to people to make a buck and to get some press.

Some people think it's really cute that it was done in an iPhone. I'm like, was this like a branding thing? But iPhone is so big. I don't think they need it. But why an iPhone? store that's i guess just to like throw her off but then i mean she's got sweats on but then she still looks beautiful with a perfect manicure i don't know i don't know i feel like and fine whatever they did

whatever it was staged not who cares they've been together a long time and she obviously wants to marry him yeah i mean they look a little face tuned in that photo oh he yeah so does he yeah he likes it yeah it's all good it may have been she may not have looked as glam but they face tuned her up before they gave the photos to people. Ring looks beautiful. Ring looks gorgeous. Like her manicure looks great too. But I just, the iPhone, like, is so weak.

Like, could you imagine being there because you cracked your screen? I was just at the iPhone store and I paid $400 to get my screen fixed on a brand new phone that I bought and had for two days. I couldn't imagine being at the Apple store waiting to get my screen fix and then there's like people getting engaged. Like, it would be the most random thing ever. Like, I'd be like, what do you guys? Like, at the Apple store?

like what and then there's a photographer like what is happening oh my god did you ever see the video I did with my friend Colin and we were at Disneyland I was at Disneyland with the kids he worked with for Disneyland so he would meet us there when we would go and I had just seen you know there's lots of engagements happening at Disneyland yeah so I said oh my God it was like right outside of like Star Wars like no offense but like extra dork right and like definitely like that kind of fandom it's not my thing but I appreciate it and so I you know summer I had just like you know sunglasses on like t-shirt whatever and I said um will you ask me to marry you and then like we're just going to see how people react and so he has a boyfriend okay so and um it's pretty obvious

he has a boyfriend in the way he presents himself so anyway he asked me to marry him I jumped up down people totally were like oh my god like people believed it and then we put out the video and for the people that didn't know it's me hether mcdonald and this is my friend other ticot people picked it up and then did like the um side by side like is someone going to tell her is anyone going to tell her like it got like five million views oh my god it was so amazing um because i never you know my engagement wasn't like that and now everyone And it makes such a big production out of it. In some ways, I think it's kind of cute that it wasn't a big flowers and this and that,

that it was just like, I wanted to surprise you if this truly was a surprise. I think it's cute, too. I mean, it's whatever. People are happy. If this is who you want to marry, you don't care if they give it to you when your nails are chipped and you look ugly. You're not going to care. You're going to be thrilled. I mean, we could have surprised her somewhere nicer than the Apple store about, like a restaurant.

Like, let's go to lunch. Or, you know what, if you're doing the whole thing and media and being authentic is your thing. Yeah. So now let's say I'm thinking about it. And I'm like, I just want to keep the audience loving me. I'm down to earth, whatever. And we're going to get engaged.

I'd be like, you know what, don't do the surprise with the angels up in the sky. La la la la la la la la. Like, let's just not do that song. And then let's like, I would almost do that too. I'd be like Peter, like Peter was just my boyfriend. I'd kind of be like, okay, let's just do something that's like random. Like, I'm at Costco and I'm like, what? Like now, watch, there is going to be a trend on TikTok of people trying to be authentic

where they do the engagement not in this orchestrated $5,000 way. Get ready. That's my prediction. Because then people are like, I just love it. She's just real. They're real. They're funny. Do you think that this is real?

Like, this is so awkward. No, I don't think it's real. but now I think people are going to be doing that to show that they're like authentic and that these big fancy flowers over the balcony overlooking the sea the only ones I really like the couple that I've seen that I think are so sweet

is there was this one viral video where the girl is told that her friend's getting engaged so she's you know all excited they said dress up where you know we're gonna oh my God Jenny's getting and and someone's filming her and she's filming her friend walk through because she's like so genuinely happy for her friend

and they're walking through her walking through and she's expecting to see the friend's boyfriend and then she sees her boyfriend and she's like and they all turn around and it's her engagement and see that is really sweet because you saw what a genuinely like sweet girl this person was

so yeah I think it's listen we all are just watching people in their own living room these days. But you want some thought into it. Like, right? Like, what do you want, Peter do it? Like, if he took you to the Apple store and then just proposed and then didn't even get you a new iPhone, like, how would, like, would you not be a little insulted by that?

I'll tell you my engagement. Okay, so we knew we were getting married because because I have a stepdaughter. I had to tell my parents that I had a stepdaughter. They didn't know that I had a stepdaughter. So I wanted them to know. Okay. And that I was

marrying him. And it wasn't a perfect situation but I you know so then we were like okay great like the next day my mom's like well the church and the country club are available on May 29th and that'll be nice because you'll get married before you're 30 and I was like okay so my birthday was in June so I was like great so then I said go get the ring I don't want to see the ring I don't want to help you pick out the ring yeah and I was filming the show lyricist lounge and I said do the whole engagement something special do it after I'm done filming because I just want to and I want to look cute and I, so I knew I was getting it that night

but then he like set up something in his condo and then he like had this music playing in the car that I was like what's this music? It was my favorite song like it had to be you and then we went to a restaurant that I loved and then we went aside and I got it but I didn't know what the ring was going to look like

but I did know what was happening that night but you still appreciate the thought that goes into it like if somebody proposed to me in a fucking Apple store that would be an easy no. Oh my God. Well, after looking at that ring, I'd be like, okay, maybe. When you get married, I think we have to do it there.

Okay, so let's talk about Real House of Salt Lake City last night. Another juicy, unfilmed moment. Up there with the infamous sprinter van of Lisa Renna and Kathy Hilton, possibly freaking out that the DJ did not play Michael Jackson. And Kathy Hilton is best friends with Michael Jackson's sister. Latoya and she wanted a pretty young thing to be played and therefore she allegedly

yelled derogatory homophobic slurs about this DJ at the Calibu Club or Caraboo Club in Aspen nobody filmed it the sprinter van driver is still in witness protection. He has never

come out we don't know where he is numerous podcasters have offered him tens to $20 to appear on their podcast to get the scoop. And he has, we don't, he or she, we don't know. We don't know. So what happened is they're in first class. They're leaving the yacht to go home. And Meredith is still very upset with Brittany because Brittany was sent a TikTok video of a girl saying, my friend's an Uber driver, and she had Meredith Mark's husband, Seth and his mistress in the back seat of her car.

I mean, not, but still, quite removed, in my opinion. No film of it, no video. She wasn't even the Uber driver herself. No. But she's pissed, as Meredith should be. If you got that, did you really need to talk about it on camera? Like, nobody else, I never saw that TikTok while it was happening. I wouldn't have known about it.

No other like Bravo person picked it up. So I have to say, I think she has a right to be pissed. But apparently on the flight home, they were in the plane. Let me see if I have the plane picture of where they were all sitting. Oh, here we go. So Blocked by Jacks posted this. This is from the show.

They showed they were on first class and they showed of it. And basically they said that Lisa and Meredith was behind Britney and they were yelling that Meredith was brating Britney for like so long, had her a shell of herself crying. Brittany said that they were actually pushing her seat, which would have to be Lisa, who was behind her, that Lisa was also ganging up on Brittany, and they were all texting each other saying, are you hearing this, how awful this is?

And what are you thinking of this whole situation? I mean, we saw it play out on the Sprinter van last season, right? With the filming of the phone where Mary's like, are you filming us? And then Britney's like, I'm not filming you. And she's still filming the whole thing. She's like, I was just taking a picture of outside the window. Yeah.

She has a 10-minute video on her phone from, you know, them fighting. So, I mean, we've seen this all play out. I'm pretty sure. I mean, and you also know Lisa Barlow gets very animated when she's fighting. So I'm sure she's, like, yelling over. I'm sure they weren't, like, shaking the seat. Really, Britney, you need to tell Meredith where you got that TikTok and what provoked you to show it on camera. Why don't you just give her the TikTok and let her know about it?

And Meredith is probably like, Brittany, you have a man that doesn't even want to be with you. when Seth and I are in a monogamous relationship. Wasn't they open for a while? He doesn't even have an Uber account. He's a Lyft man. Like, what is she going to say? But they were open for a while. Remember, that was season one.

Seth and Meredith had an open arrangement. They said it was open now. They say it's not open. I mean, I think she was just really, I think, you know, you're on this show, and then you're, like, blindsided when all of a sudden somebody on camera says something that you're like, I could give the editors $100,000

and they're not going to not air this. Like, this is out there. I'm now going to have to tell my spouse it's out there, then it's going to air, then I'm going to have to deal with it for the rest of my life. Like, I think that's where then she, that's where Meredith was like thinking about it on a plane. And your emotions run higher on a plane.

I always wondered why I would watch like a movie on a plane and cry harder or think it was better than it. was and then I would like you know like I'm always less critical of a movie on a plane I always think it's like everything's great and they said it's because there's something about being in the air that can like affect your emotions you and especially if you're drinking which if they're in first class and their housewives they were drinking yeah and so so then when I thought it was really good because Mary then goes and meets with her and really was like I really had I thought Mary came off great. She was just like, you know, Meredith, like, it was horrible. Like,

I was there. It was horrible. Like, it was horrible. I heard everything. Like, you got to take some responsibility. And she's like, oh, please. There would have been an air marshal there if it was that intense. And I'm like, also like, you know, there's an extra buzz of sound that happens in a plane that you also can't hear as well. So I kind of'm on Meredith's side in that I don't know that Mary would have heard it all, but I think they all talked about it. Yeah, I'm sure.

And I think certainly Whitney and Heather, who were across the way, they were the ones that hurt everything. Yeah, I mean, and Brittany's the type, like, I'm pretty sure she was a shell of herself. Like, it doesn't take hard to rattle. It's not hard to rattle Britney. True, true.

You can, you know, she rattles herself up every other episode. So I'm sure having Lisa and Meredith both on her. I'm sure emotions were heightened. I'm sure they weren't shaking her chair, but I'm sure they were kind of pulling on it as she was right in front of them. And they were you know, I just, I believe that this happened. It probably wasn't

that dramatic, but I'm sure Brittany's reaction to it made it feel a lot bigger than it actually was. And all these women know how to do, like Heather and Whitney, all they do are like, oh my God. Like they blow it up so much more to add sauce on everything. Well, then also do you think, you know,

people said, well, maybe the producer Why wouldn't the producers be filming it? They must have been in first class. And they said the producers probably weren't in first class. And I mean, they don't pay those people that well. I mean, the executive producers make money, but I don't think the people that are like carrying the cameras and like have the notebook are like in first class. Have you seen Paul Royston on TikTok?

He's doing, he was one of the producers. I think he did like Vanderpump Rose. And all of his, his stories now are about like when I used to produce this show and what you think and how it was like setting up the scenes for housewives and and paying for everything. thing and he was a segment producer or something and so he talks about how he's doing he's like you think it's glamorous and he's like we were all treated like shit we would all eat shit food like whatever their leftovers were we we took them home for our dinner that night like you know he's talking about what it's like to be a real producer on these shows and like yeah they're not paid very well they're not you know they're I mean I wish one of them would have been there to get the iPhone out and film some of this and then they're like I'm surprised the other girls weren't filming it too and a like again they have not thought of it or if they have it they're like I'm just saving this for a rainy day I don't need to bring it up now and I'm not going to be the one to bring it up yeah because like I'm still on the show and I think people like Heather are smart enough to now see it and it's like you can't draw the line in the sand with another top person yeah if you want to stay on the show you can with the

monica girl because she was a newbie yeah and she wasn't bringing anything and she wasn't rich or powerful so that was a moment but you know people are like well isn't you know Heather was on the show Heather Gay was on the show and about Lisa Barlow um sharing stories about the cast members to bloggers or whatnot and Heather Gay said oh yeah I know for a fact she did it I have receipts timesheets whatever she says timestamps everything um and there and he goes and when do you think about that she's like well he's like will you be able she's like hopefully we'll be able to be a place to move on. And so people are like, but then you didn't want to move on with Monica.

And it's like, yeah, because Monica wasn't powerful, like Lisa Barlow. And she knows the audience likes Lisa Barlow. She's fun to watch. She has good one-liners. Like, you know, so, okay, this was just talking about an open marriage. So this, they, this is from Bravo Snark was nice enough to put this together. So they're sitting at brunch, Whitney, who I definitely think has. you know enjoyed a threesome swinging lifestyle in my opinion okay so it was actually I have

some facts on that that I might be sharing on the show on Friday so come I'll have to remember to write that down okay so if it was someone sending him photos this is Bronwyn and we talk about it ahead of time it wouldn't bother me if Todd said to me I'd like to sleep with other people or I'd like or I'd like us to do this together I'd at least try it I am like shocked that she's saying this

I think she's gotten too caught up in the show and I think she doesn't care about her marriage anymore I don't know if she ever really did no I don't know why they ever got married in the first place I don't know why he married her I know why she married him but I was like was she that great in the sack maybe she was

because I'm like why if a guy wants to maybe he just wanted a wife and she was like you can cheat maybe that was it maybe it was like a transactional thing yeah take care of my daughter and i and you can do whatever the fuck you want on your trips i mean they probably had something like that and now that it's coming out she's trying to protect herself from the image of the fans in that i'm okay with this because when people think that a woman is being treated like shit their marriage and putting up with it that actually hurts their fandom yeah they're like they lose respect

for them. So it's like, I think she's trying to say, like, oh, please, I'm fine with this. And then so now I do think that he was farting while making out. Probably. Listen, I don't think there was ever anything, like, of substance in their relationship. Even the way that he talks to her. Horrible. I want her to get divorced so badly. But I think she knew that. I want to see what she'd be like with the mother and the daughter and him all gone. And not having to wear those weird outfits. I just want to see, like, would she be cool at all? Like kind of like the way Erica Jane changed Once she got rid of Tom Durardi

And then we got to like She's so much more liable Her like like life blew up And then she had nothing left But her personality is so much more likable now Like she's like It humbled her And she's like kind of fun

And get you know It's down to earth And like still a badass But like in the best way Yeah Yeah So I don't know But yeah

That was interesting And then Whitney What did Whitney say in this? she kind of was like agreeing or who knows i mean it's working out for her and justin yeah and then um she said again back to monica garcia hather gay has said that now the judgment is 35 000 for those lips that she didn't like because when you don't pay your bill then it goes and then there's a lot the lawsuit and you win then it like the judgment just keeps going up and up and up so you have attorney's fees and costs and all that stuff that now monica has to cover

And she just had it Didn't she have another baby? I don't know. She was pregnant and then she lost the baby But I think she was pregnant again I don't know what's what's going on with her Remember she had like such a hot moment

She had such a hot moment She had such a hot moment But she didn't seize it No It's like you've got a window Like she should have immediately been like Get me on traitors get me on anything Did she go on anything?

She did She was the voice on House of Villains Oh, yeah. But, like, that was the most that they gave her. No, and then, like, when she finally did do a podcast, it was like four months later. And I was like, what? No, like, you got to do, you got to do your tell all right now. Wait, she had her own podcast?

She did a, um, something. I thought she was a guest. No, she did a, she did Nick Viall. Okay. And then she tried to do her own, like, salt lake tea podcast or something, salty podcast, something like that. So that Heather Gay is still, she's saying that she's saying that she, hinted that she hooked up with Captain Jason Captain Jason said

No, we didn't hook up Then Heather was on Watch Homes Live And she's like, did we or didn't we? Did we? And I'm like, and people are like, enough With, we didn't know about your, you still haven't told us about the black guy really. Oh my God, I forgot about that. Yeah, and now you're not going to,

now you're going to hint that either did you or did you not? Did you make out? Did you not make out? Did you fully bone? Well, you think he'd remember or maybe he wouldn't. What? She's just, but she's good. I mean, she's a good, she's a good voice of reason.

She's a good cast member. She does the, she does the work. She does. She keeps the show moving. She keeps, I think the fans will get tired of her in like two more seasons because they'll feel like she's too produced. And she, like, the same reason they hate Kyle, they're like, Kyle produces Beverly Hills. Well, I mean, some people just don't have a salacious storyline.

Yeah. Like, her divorce was done and it wasn't super ugly, except just to say I'm part of Mormonism and it just sucked. Well, now she has her show. have boyfriends the daughters are all delights yeah so they're not struggling with drug addiction or pregnant or hating their mom or being estranged for five years like so she doesn't have drama yeah so it's like that should not be a negative thing if you can bring it in other ways and still at least be like funny and kind of keep it moving and i think that's where she is at with it yeah and and people

like oh she's got no story like shut up like not everybody needs a full-blown storyline every season. Sutton and Garcel are no longer friends from Real House as Beverly Hills and they were on a red carpet together and Bravo Snark said feet away from the same event on the same red carpet, Garcel turns her back on Sutton.

Well, yeah, I've said it. They were never friends. They were never friends. Anybody that believed that friendship? Sutton believed they were friends. Oh, come on. No, I do believe, I talked to Sutton believed they were friends and I told her you were a girl she did a TV show with

and when she decided that you were not, didn't have her back and she decided I'm not going to come back on the show there was you were there was not enough there for her to pursue it was more powerful for her just to catch you out. Sine doesn't have real friends like her friends are like her assistance

until they all leave her and then she doesn't have real friends so I disagree I disagree. She has friends. Heather Dubrow? No, I went to her house. When I went to the master, she has friends.

Like, she has friends from, like, the town. She has real friends. She has other. And then I went to, she had a party in Beverly Hills that was, like, a slow crawl. It was like a slow boil or whatever, party. And she cooked. And it was very nice. She had, like, one or two people, like, helping her.

But she did everything. And it was not filmed. and she had other Beverly Hills people that were not famous there. So I do believe she has friends. I do. I think friends around her are like the housewife lovers, or they like that she has money

and spends a lot of money to take care of people. I mean, I don't know. I'm not in her inner circle. I know people that were in her inner circle, but I don't know. Well, I'm friendly with her, and I do think she has real friends. And I do know that she was hurt by,

she did try to reach out to Garcel many times and has given up. I didn't understand Garcell's reason for like really kicking Sutton. Because like even if Sutton did want to try, well, Garcel's narrative is what the Sutton didn't really try. But I just, I don't know. I don't think Garcel cared about any of those women. It's just weird things. We're watching the show about women's friendships, but it's about the show.

Yeah. So they fight. They make up when it's convenient for the work. Yeah. Nobody in real life that ever went through any of these arguments, whether it's at a school parking lot or at a country club would ever fuck with that woman again. In real life, as one of those women, you would be done. You'd maybe be at a shower five years later and be like, oh, hello. And that would be it.

But if you're getting paid by Bravo and all that stuff, then, yeah, you got to make up. You got to make up. And that's what happened with Joe Gorga. Now they said Gia and Joe Gorga now re-following each other. Louis and Joe and Joe Gorga are following each other. And I think that Bravo waited long enough to hire anyone. for any reason from New Jersey put them in a long

enough time out that they realized we're all screwed unless we come together and so they want apparently the rumor is they want they will still wait Bravo until they are

actually friends actually hanging out without cameras they actually don't want to see the makeup on TV because the audience is so tired of it. And so even if they make up and everything, that once, if they decide to start filming again and all that, we won't even see New Jersey till 27. No, yeah. I agree. I mean, they'll probably start filming next summer. Yeah. Give it, you know, the next several months to rebuilds. I can see Kathy Wachili coming back. She lives across the street. Like, I can see them

rebooting it in that sense. But yeah, I think the egos were too big the first time around. And Bravo was like, all right. And then now they've been off of TV for long. enough that they all want to be back on and they have their little their little carrots right Melissa got her wife swap and Teresa got special forces and so it kind of like gives them enough but they you know they they all want to be back on TV I can see I don't see Jennifer Aiden coming back she said I'm not she said I'm not officially I've never heard and I'm not she's like kind of said I'm done like I know I'm done yeah we all know you're done and I think that was she's starting a podcasting could I'm sure

you'll enjoy that. TV gold. But I think this weekend, there's going to be something that goes on whether planned or not that will spark story. Yeah. And people talking and news articles

about them either seen talking, hugging, laughing, or yelling and fighting. But it'll probably be the positive because I think they're going in and they're going to be like, we're going to have dinner at this restaurant, which they'll be picking up,

we'll get a deal, and we'll be. we know that people, the fans will see us eating altogether. And yeah, that's what's going to happen. Okay, now Vicky and Vicky wants back on the show. So Vicky and Tamara are good friends, leaving

Shannon as the Uno Amigo. And she said, Shannon's not going to tell me who I can be friends with. She can't tell me I, like, we're going to Mexico. Tamara and I are going to Mexico. So they're going to be, they did the coffee ad. everyone's doing this coffee thing

I saw I saw what's her name from Miami do it the one that was dating the Haitian mortician Julia Julia was dating the coffee guy

no Julia Oh she did the coffee She's doing the same coffee Which is like an instant latte Yeah yeah That they did the commercial for She's doing it Which I think is kind of funny

Because remember she got the She had to give her Haitian mortician Lover according to Adriana The coffee maker Yeah I don't think I don't even think she drew the connection. I just drew it.

Anyway, we're going to get the Haitian mortician and the sprinter driver are going to be making an appearance at my show. I love that. Please. Please bring them out on stage. I would love that for us. I just might. Anyway, so, and then Gina Kino was on the show,

original OG of OC, and she said, Shannon was mad at me because I said, Shannon shouldn't have said on camera that she wasn't screwing David Bedora her first husband for a year and any other now women see that and they know to like go fuck them and I'm like shut up Gina you know what

the reason we like Shannon is that she is honest she was honest enough to share with her girlfriends that her marriage was in the toilet and that she'd gone they'd gone this long time without being intimate and could they like save it or not or what does that mean and she

wanted the sympathy, but that's what makes a good housewife. Yeah. Not one that, like, acts like you're having sex every day when they're not, you know? Obviously. Remember when she came back, Gina came back? It was like two seasons ago. It was when they had Dr. Jen Armstrong. And she had a party at her house. And then on Instagram, you saw that Gina was at this party and she's taking photos with all of them. And then you see the episode and they don't show Gina like at all. Like, they completely cut her out. And you know she thought that was like her big OC return. Nobody cares about Gina. Nobody cares about her.

I talked to Gina one time in Newport, like at a restaurant, and I was like, I always think about that scene where you showed up and you didn't tell your son that you're bringing Vicky in cameras and he was stressed about a baseball game. He was trying to make like the junior league or whatever it was, you know, he was already out of high school. Like he wasn't going to go to college. He's going to do like semi-pro or something. And he was there and he was like, what the fuck are you doing here? And he's like, I'm going to take this bat and like hit your fist. with her saying and she's like ha ha ha and dicky's like what and i remember that just left such an impression where i was like that even that like later that night i was like giving my son's

a bath that's how long ago it was and they were like not getting out of the bath or not getting in the bath and i remember i'm like i will not be treated like jita keeto like i was just like it was like to affect me so much to see like such a disrespectful son but then as i got older and i saw like it's wrong to put your kids on these camera with this camera without their consent and then to take show up with cameras to surprise them while he's doing like something for his career and so you know at the time she told me he was the kids are doing great everyone's like married with kids are doing great they're all adults the three kids her kids but i said to her i go how did that like affect them i'm sure people came up to them and said you're a rude she's like

it was horrible they were bullied horribly they really suffered and even colton really suffered and I go, so, I mean, do you ever look back and regret doing it at all? And she goes, oh, no, I can still get a reservation anywhere. That was exactly what she said. And I was like, you literally just said your kids were like bullied. Traumatized. And now, but you can still call and, you know, get a reservation at Mastro's. That's how they care about.

Interesting. So, yeah, she's, okay. I want to talk about Helen Keller. Oh, yes. Helen Keller, the blind death woman who could not speak either from history. People did reports, book reports on them. Yes. Now, there is a conspiracy theory that came around the Internet a couple years ago that actually was sparked.

I looked it up by a University of Oregon student. Oh. Wrote a 96-page thing. I didn't hear any of this. Her name is Allison Johnston. My son goes to Oregon, so that was impressive. This was blind, deaf accomplished and discredited. How Helen Keller's legacy evolved with new media.

So do tell us the scoop because you are passionate about it. Very passionate about it because I didn't even know that there was a report. I didn't even know this was viral a few years ago. I was very proudly taking the credit of all the new TikTok videos that people are making about her. because when you think about it, because like, you know, I forgot how somebody mentioned something about Helen Keller and in like one of my live streams and they're like, oh, yeah, didn't she fly a plane?

And I was like, Helen Keller didn't fly a plane. You're confusing her with like Amelia Earhart. Yeah. And then I was sitting there and I went on my phone and I was like, what didn't, she didn't fly a plane because someone was like, she did. And then I went and I realized she wrote like 12 books. She flew. I'm like, somebody hacked the Matrix and like this is the Mandela effect

because I don't remember who doing any of this shit when I was in school and we learned about her because she was blind and deaf. They said that like she donated all this money to the ACLU because she was trying to help, you know, people of color. And I was like, Helen Keller can't even see color. Like she's one person.

She's one white lady that can say, I never see color. How would she know ethnicity? She had a, she had a forbidden lover. Was he black? Was he a Haitian mortician? No, he wasn't. He was white. But I don't know.

She may have thought that maybe he convinced her that she was. And so they would communicate with her in her hand They would like write things in her hand And that's how she would understand things Which again, how they got her to scribble in her hand And then get her to write 12 books And what was the years that she was alive?

Like the 1800s and 1900s? What was it? It was like early 1900s, I think. Yeah, she flew a plane. She wrote 12 books. So the forbidden lover Like she was going to secretly get married to him And then he ghosted her

And so she was like supposed to meet up with him And then he just like never showed up Couldn't find him. That was mine. I'm like, How, who bought this story? But she went to the cafe and he was there. She didn't know it.

She couldn't see him. She was looking for you. And how would he know what she looked like? It's not like she could like send him a photo. No, he was her, he was like an assistant of hers. Yeah. And then, which also, that's not a Romeo and Julia forbidden lover. That's like a different situation.

How did she become so rich? Because people were impressed that she, okay, so I looked up briefly. So she wasn't born this way. At 19 months, she got some horrible, you know, illness, which back then, you know, which is why my mom, I remember one time one of my daughter had an earache and she said she, I didn't know she had an earache, but she seemed sick. And my mom's like, took her temperature. And I remember my mom is like, you don't fuck with an earache. Look at Helen Keller. You like, don't. Your kid has an earache, a temperature. You do not fuck with that. You get that temperature down. But something like that happened. And then, then she lost her eyesight and her earache in her earache. hearing and because of that she hadn't started speaking yet at 19 months so then she lost the ability to speak so did she create sign language

no she didn't even do how is she going to do sign language she can't see sign language so the thought is did the woman exist or like what what is a conspiracy I think that she existed but what they did was they found somebody that they can prop up

to be like gay rights and so they gave her a little picket sign she was gay too No. She was like homeless and toothless. Homeless, not toothless. So she didn't know any better. She was fighting for the homeless and the toothless. And she didn't even know what she was fighting for. I think she was a mascot that they propped up and they're like women's rights and all this. Because, I mean, the rabbit hole goes deep with the number of causes. Did she go to the moon? That's the question. Probably. She was right there with Neil Armstrong on the moon and she was the first woman. She flew the spaceship to the moon. Right now, if you look it up, it says she flew her own plane herself.

I think someone was with her in the plane, but she flew in the air for 20 minutes. How do you teach someone that's blind and deaf? Like, how do you explain to them what a plane is if they've never seen a plane before? And then how to drive the plane? I think someone just threw her in the plane and was like autopilot underneath and she had no idea what was going on. So you think it's just like stories made up in a time that there was. like video footage to prove it. There's video footage of her

alleged video footage of her. Flying the plane? Not flying the plane. But like of her and she's like talking. Doing a TED Talk. She's doing a TED Talk. Oh my God. And then at one point she like looks into the camera and smiles.

Where does Mel Robbins and Jay Shetty come into this story? They're going to interview Helen Keller. That's the next guest. Oh my God. Like Helen Keller was the epitome of the let's see. them theory. Mal Robin says let them and Malin was like, let them. Whatever they say I'm for, I'm for it.

So I just think she was like a prop that they used to push like all these different causes and I'm just like she didn't know if she was sitting at the back of the bus. She didn't know where in the bus she was sitting. I feel like I did a fourth grade report on this. Yeah, we all did. We all studied it but also why.

Like it doesn't make any sense. I was talking to my mom about this and she's like all I remember is that she was blind and deaf and she was wild. And then there was a teacher. Anne Sullivan came in and Anne, like, taught her how to behave. Anne Sullivan, yeah. Yeah, she was wild. That's right.

She was like freaking out. And then Anne Sullivan was like the first, like, special needs teacher type of a thing. She figured it out. Yeah. The blind whisper. And so my mom's like, was the moral of the stories like we're supposed to listen to teachers? And that's why they taught us all about this in school is because teachers like, it's more, because it's also like, why did we learn about that? She wasn't rose the parts.

And shouldn't Anne Sullivan have been the bigger star of the story, really? she would be the star. Like I would be like Anne Sullivan got this blind and deaf girl and she turned her into this huge social activist. She was raised money for the ACLU. I mean, come on. Who doesn't want that life? Like Anne Sullivan should have been the woman that we were championing.

And instead we were believing that Helen Keller flew a plane by herself. It makes absolutely no sense. It's so, that's so funny. Okay, I have a little follow up on, over the weekend. I talked about this on Tuesday. I got a random text, okay? Just like a 3-2-3 number like this. And I, it was somebody fishing for a rich old man.

It said, hello, handsome old man or something. And I was bored and Peter and Drake were golfing. And I wrote back and fucked with this person. And I created an old rich man that plays golf. He lives in Century City. His name is Charles. And he belongs to Revere Country Club. Oh.

And then they kept trying to get me to go on their WhatsApp. And I am, so I was just acting old and I didn't know WhatsApp. So after I had my fun with this person, I then was scared and I blocked the number. I screen grabbed all of it and shared it with my juicy scupers. Okay. They're back with another three to three number. How do you know it's the same person? Because she said, hey, Charles.

Oh. Hey Charles. And I said, who was this? And she said, it's Isabel. That's the same person it was before. I was actually waiting for your message on WhatsApp, but you didn't message me. L.O.L. So I said, I don't use WhatsApp because I'm an old man.

Yeah. I don't use old. I don't use WhatsApp. Can you, and then I can you meet for me for a drink at the Waldorf on the rooftop tomorrow, 4.30 for sunset. Does that sound nice? Yeah. So she said, I would meet him. Yeah.

And it's in public. Yeah. Yeah, sure. If you message me on WhatsApp, LOL, it's easy to go wherever you are. I'm like, we're texting here. Why do we have to go on WhatsApp? Okay, because that's, I think there's some trickery to the WhatsApp. They can suck the money out of your bank account easier from Nigeria or wherever this is. Okay. Before I go, before I download an app, can you send me a photo and I'll send you a pick of me? Sure, but don't judge me. I'm not pretty like,

what you think. Here you go. Send a gorgeous picture of a Filipino girl with a messy bun and a Starbucks cup. Wow. Okay. And then she says... They're all Asian girls now. They used to be Nigerian and they kidnapped

and now, like, this is the new scam. The scam? Yeah. They're all Asian girls. This girl, okay, I'll tell you the rest. Okay, she goes, where are you now still there? And I said, I'm walking into a dinner. You're gorgeous. I love that you're having this whole conversation. She says, thank you, but where's your picture? Or you can, or you can send it to my WhatsApp. Oh my God. Then she sent the WhatsApp thing, okay? So then I went on the, you click the WhatsApp? No, I went on Google, whatever, and I said, give me a older man, because I said I was 53,

but obviously an older man that says he's 53 is actually like 59. Yeah. Okay. So I found an older white man that was like a Google image. Okay. Tom Girardi. a selfie. Okay. Because it has to be a selfie, right? It's not going to be a model. With three fingers? And he's not cute, but not cute. Not cute. Agree. I'm not going to show his photo, but he's not. I would meet him at the Waldorf at 4.30 for a cocktail. Because you just, because you know it's hard to get into the Waldorf and it's a beautiful sunset. Yeah. I actually went to the Waldorf the other night. The Waldorf is the best. L.A. looks so beautiful from the top of the Waldorf. You don't see one gross, scary thing from the top of the Waldorf. And, but it is hard to get a table. And, and, but it is hard to get a table. And, and, the drinks are very expensive. I paid $40 for a martini. The drinks are so expensive. Yeah. But Charles will get it. Yeah, that's why. Yeah. She goes, why so blurred? L.O.L. And I go, oh, shit. You know, because I'd screen grabbed the Google. And I said, I didn't even notice. Okay. So she goes on, you look younger than your age. No, I don't, Isabel. So when you message me on my personal WhatsApp, some stuff will see our conversation. You hear me? Like in the English is bad, obviously.

And I think she's hinting, I'll show you, like, some nudity. Sorry, I can't understand you. Music in here. Starbucks is too loud. Oh. She said that or you said that. She called me. Oh.

She called me. So I had Drake do an old voice. Oh, okay. And he goes, what? Hey, honey. And it was a, you know, an Asian accent. Okay. And, and then.

She said, sorry, I couldn't hear you. And I go, why are you at Starbucks at 6 at night? You know, she's like, I'm at Starbucks because that was that stock photo. Yeah. And we know she's not in Starbucks. We know that she's in the Philippines, like in a warehouse or something. Yeah. And she said, she goes, I'm waiting to my stuff here to give a report yesterday.

If she doesn't show up, I'll just leave. Whatever. She's pretending like she's working. Got it. So then I just stopped. And then she wrote again, Hope I can receive a good morning message on my WhatsApp good night and then this morning good morning charles and then this morning she called me again and i just didn't answer i feel like we need to follow this plot through when i get bored

when i run out of content i don't know if i'm to have time to deal with isabella bravocon just tell her i'm at bravocon i'm in vegas this weekend but i will i'll tell everybody i will be doing lots of content from my patreon we're going to do a live stream we're driving tomorrow afternoon. We're going to do a live stream, answer some questions. Maybe you'll even give me some things that you want me to answer doing the live show. Of course, you're going to go to Heather MacDonald.net. You're going to join the patron and you're going to get your ticket and you're going to follow Zach. What fun stuff are you doing? Where are you putting all your fun, juicy content over the weekend on your

Instagram? How are you doing it? Instagram, YouTube. I have no filter all access. People can sign up for like behind the scenes fun stuff on there as well um yeah i mean i'm gonna be all over Vegas this weekend i'm doing bravo con all day friday and new kids all day saturday i'm gonna see you friday night right and so when you um when you uh are walking around bravo con i mean have you done it before i've never done bravo con the last time i did last time i was there it was for like a wait watchers like brand deal that i like flew in for you mean just Vegas yes but it was the week it was part of bravo con but it was like their own thing no it was like a last minute thing i got a call like friday morning like can you be here they're like do you want to

somebody would call me and say can you show up at the wait watchers for a last minute check i was like yeah i can they thought i was in Vegas for bravo con and then i was like no i was like but if there's a check i will fly like it'll be there tomorrow it's a 45 minute flight yeah tell me when so um well you will be besieged with people that recognize you. And so that is very fun. Hopefully they're nice. Oh, they're always nice.

They're never not nice. Yeah. The people that go to BravoCon and, you know, especially the ones, obviously the best ones are the ones that go to my show. I actually was, when I was in Vegas last time since I was staying at Caesar, there were a lot of people that were at BravoCon that I got to, like, that did recognize me or follow the podcast. Honestly, it's a great vibe.

Very sweet. It's a great vibe. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of taking photos and things like that. which is fun and great. I will say one thing, and I'm just going to tell people this, because this is what I don't like about it,

is when you are walking around Vegas, whether you're at Barbara or whatever, and people come up to you, we all love it, and we take photos and stuff. But if there's a miscommunication or the person that you're trying to get the photo of it, whether it's me, Zach, or a housewife,

or Andy himself, and he can know, he can't do it, or your phone's not ready, or they literally have to get to the next place where they have to, they are contractually have to go over here. Do not then. Go on TikTok and say that that person was a bitch.

Unless they said fuck you and throw a drink in your face. Being busy, having handlers, running around. It's not fair than to like judge someone that's like, I just need to pee. Like I haven't had any, I had to do that a few times. I was like, I literally, if I don't have something to drink, right now like I'm going to faint again like they're just kind and you know and the

the talent has the golf carts and the people to walk them through but the people that that are just kind of like us or like influences or whatever that are happy to be there that want to take a photo with you just give everybody a little grace yeah you know because it is really fun and we do

and the fun part is going out and meeting people and taking photos we're all about it yeah I'm excited I'm looking forward it's going to be a fun now I'm getting real excited I know The closer it gets them, I'm like, oh, this is actually going to be fun. Because then I'm seeing everyone else that's going and we're planning all I just, I just had stew on my chef stew.

And we were, we literally were just taught. We forgot we were on the live stream and we were just like talking through our itinerary for the week. And then we're like, well, now everybody knows where we're at and where we're having dinner, what we're doing. But I'm excited to see everybody because it's like, you know, everyone that you know from the internet is now all together or in the TV. Like, we're all together in one place. Yeah, it's all good. And you know what? You never know where the world will be in two years.

So I'm always like, this could be the last. And if you're not going, no FOMO, watch, get my streamer, follow all of us. There's stuff you can watch on Peacock. Like, you can still have fun from the comfort of your own home. Your feet won't be tired. Yeah. You won't be spending thousands of dollars. Yeah.

You know, so like you could still have fun with it. Do you think Sheena and Tamara will squash the beef at BravoCon? Oh, are they doing a thing? Swash the Beef? Is that one of them? Well, they always do Bravo. BravoCon always does squash the beef. I thought that whole thing of blaming Sheena was like ridiculous.

Yeah. But, you know, they're all going to be entertaining and looking gorgeous. They're all going to look like little Barbies up there and it's going to be fun. Yeah. Yeah. All right, everybody, Heather Bintalon.com.

Thank you. Bye.