Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Diddy Doc, Sydney Sweeney, Mormon Wives Lawsuit with Jacques Peterson
Episode Date: December 9, 2025Daily Mail Reporter Jacques Peterson is here! We break down the explosive Diddy documentary produced by 50 Cent. Sydney Sweeney finally addresses the Jeans ad controversy. Kim Cattrall marries and did... she steal SJP’s look? We discuss Mormon Wives reunion juiciest moments. Marciano sues Demi and production for defamation. RHOBH premiered! Vanderpump Rules has potential. Meghan Markel and Prince Harry could have a a whole new career in 2026 but first she has to deal with her family again. -Exclusive $35 off Carver Mat at https://on.auraframes.com/JUICYSCOOP. Promo Code JUICYSCOOP -Right now, Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription plus free shipping when you go to https://Nutrafol.com and use promo code JUICYSCOOP -Get $25OFF off your first purchase when you go to https://TheRealReal.com/juicy Subscribe to my new show Juicy Crimes!: https://bit.ly/juicycrimes Stand Up Tickets and info: https://heathermcdonald.net Subscribe to Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald and get extra juice on Patreon: https://bit.ly/JuicyScoopPod https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop Watch the Juicy Scoop On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JuicyScoop Shop Juicy Scoop Merch: https://juicyscoopshop.com/ Follow Me on Social Media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heathermcdonald TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HeatherMcDonaldOfficial Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Jock Peterson, writer for the Daily Mail, unpopular opinions that we actually love, but some of you get angry and he says, bring it on.
Welcome back to Juicy Scoot, my friend. How are you?
I'm good. I can't believe I'm back again. I feel like it's like five times or something. People seem to hate me more every time I come on.
They were not happy with my Britney comments last time.
What is she up to now? I don't even know.
There was something about, I saw a post about like either little boxing gloves or little two-to shoes.
I don't know.
I don't know what it was.
I heard I was out, I was out on the town and I heard she's like launching a jewelry line.
Oh, I definitely think she'll be able to pull that off.
I definitely, I want to, I will definitely be going.
She had all those pop-ups that happened during the holidays, a little sip and shop.
You just see Brittany and a bikini and a felt leather hat.
She should do a fedora line, actually.
A fedora felt hat and some brown sensible pumps and just, you know, selling some jewelry.
You can sell her.
Who knows?
But let's get into so much is going on.
The biggest, the number one show in the world on Netflix and the UK is the 50 cent produced.
documentary, Sean Combs, The Reckoning.
Now, full disclosure, you have not had the opportunity to watch it.
No, but it's all everyone's.
I didn't realize it was such a big deal.
You texted me about it and then on the weekend, everyone kept going,
are you watching this Diddy documentary?
We'll get a little into it.
I'm going to get my juicy scupers a few days to watch it,
and I'll probably get more into it on Wednesday.
But it is so well done.
Because as someone who covered the whole thing,
Sometimes when these documentaries come, I'm like, tell me something I don't know.
Too many documentaries.
This did.
It told me a lot of things I didn't know.
And it put a lot of things in clarity.
And the clarity is Sean Puffy Combs was an untalented dork mouth breather who got too much power and became a monster.
And 50 Cent is does the long.
game of revenge like no one else and it was it it was fucking great and it just here's the things
that are shocking pretty persuasive evidence based on who is interviewed on the docks the timelines
news and footage that ditty may have been completely responsible for not only tupac which people
thought, but possibly Biggie too. Oh, I wanted to ask you about that because there's been all
these like conspiracies that he like has people killed and he put the bomb in Kid Cutty's car and
everything. Does it get into all this? Oh, yes. Okay. And you know, with people just saying this is
what happened to me. He had this assistant who was part of the trial who when Cassidy, that's what
Oh, Cassie.
Cassie, when Cassie was talking to a Kid Cuddy, whatever, this assistant who was friendly
with her, he, you know, Diddy found out about it.
And this was in the trial, too, and took her and basically kidnapped her with a gun and went
to Kid Cuddy's house and all this.
And so she's crying about it, telling the story of the control that he had, how scary
it was.
There was another assistant who said one day he took her to.
to Central Park
and was like
I heard you know
Shug Knight
and she's like
well I only know
Shug Knight
only through
I'm very good friends
with one of his baby
momas
is like my best friend
and still my best friend
today
and he's like
just so you know
if any
if you like
deceive me in any way
you will be killed
in this park
and no one will know
about it
oh my God
so he's like
a full on like
it's like
the godfather
or something
absolutely
that's why he wore
like the godfather
he's obsessed with it
but he really the thing is that he wasn't talented he was not a good singer he was not a good rapper he was a horrible dancer he's ugly too he was never attracted and he got uglier through the years and the mouth breathing is another thing people were like always like this you kind of like a weak jaw yes a lot of people said with all that money why didn't you get a chin implant um just the dark eyes got darker darker through the years with his evilness and you always had to wear the glass
Because he always said, yeah, he looks so hideous when he took them all.
And, yeah, so it was, so that was, that was just those type of things.
They didn't really get, one thing that people said they didn't get into was Kim Porter,
who was his wife.
I think they were legally married.
I'm not sure.
But she was the main girl.
Cassie was always the side chick.
They knew about each other.
And she had three kids of his, Christian, I think, and then the twin girls who were 18 now.
and she mysteriously died of pneumonia
as healthy models often do
that are dating or with P. Diddy.
But they don't, the doc didn't really get into that.
Legally, they probably couldn't.
Legally, they probably couldn't go there
even though everyone has their theories.
And wasn't she writing, like she was trying to write a tell-all
or something before?
There was all of that, which was we didn't know.
Was it her?
Was it someone saying that they were pretending to be her?
you know, I'm sure there's, there are things in there that have been said about him and his life
and stuff that are not 100% true, but there's enough that. And then what was weird is they
feature this one girl who was on the jury. And she is a very cute black woman and she is
starstruck. And I cannot believe, like, she is like, well, I mean, we, I grew up watching Diddy and
this, I remember every episode of Making of the Band. You should.
not have been picked to be the jury. I don't know every episode of Making With the band. And I feel like I
should not have been on the jury because I studied enough. Like, I thought they normally would
try to really find people that really are just like, hey, I've seen his music. I'm not a hip hop head.
No, this girl was like, she goes, and then he would look at us. Like when this girl talked about
her being kidnapped that one assistant, he was like looking at at the jury like, yeah, right. And I'm like,
yeah, that's a hard one to believe. People are like, what?
What? Well, there were people during the trial that were, like, rubbing themselves at, like, baby oil and, like, holding signs and stuff that were, like, super fans and trying to go viral.
Well, they also explained, like, they had a lot of TikTok content creators that were not, like, allowed in the courtroom, but then his PR people would feed them the highlights.
So then they would make the TikTok that would be like, oh, wow, that isn't.
And I remember seeing those things that I'm trying to report on it because it's not like we could watch.
it on you know court TV yeah and I would be like oh that hey that isn't that great for
the prosecution I'll see that so they were feeding all those people okay the info yeah
and um you know he he only got 40 what did he get four years or 40 no four years I think so
I think you know then allegedly 50 50 showed um a like funeral arrangement that was sent from
P. Diddy and posted that. I don't know if that's true. Like that that's just kind of funny.
It could be anyone could have sent that too. It could have been anybody. It could have been 50 cent.
Yeah. Sending it because he is just the king of, you know, Robert Randall Emmett, give me back, give me my money.
And he's like, so sorry, 40. It's coming. Like, he is just when people, is it people like, you know that expression like, you know, what would Jesus do?
It's like, if you want to be petty, just say, what would Curtis?
50 set Jackson do and go that extra mile now all this stuff is coming up for some reason he has a
beef with jeru and so he was on stephen cobert show way back yeah and he's like tell me about
what your beef is about with jewell and what did you do and he goes well i saw that he had a show
and i looked up the tickets and i bought every single ticket in the first three rows it was only like
three thousand dollars so then he would come out and perform with the first three rows and then he would come out and
performed with the first three rows completely empty.
I mean, just the five steps ahead of the, hey, it's just amazing.
Is that why Chelsea's still so nice about him?
She's always like, he was amazing.
So, okay, so funny that you bring up the Chelsea thing.
So here I am with, with him.
So I looked at this up.
I was not, but this is like a funny story.
So this is, I think, 2011 or 2010.
I think, no, it was December something of 2010, I think.
And he came on the show and they hit it off and they started to date.
I think the whole thing lasted like a month.
Okay.
And but on one occasion, I opened for her.
We did take a private jet because I remember him being in the jet with us.
And it was a big arena in New Jersey.
and it was kind of great
because that was her hometown
and I remember
this girl from like high school
came backstage
and they were filming stuff
like they were going to do a talk about Chelsea on tour
but it never went anywhere
and I was like Chelsea
this is that Madonna truth or dare moment
where the childhood friend comes
and asks Madonna
will you be the godmother to my fifth child
and Madonna's like
like, I barely remember you.
I remember we fingered each other in your parents' bed.
Remember that?
Like, this is the greatest moment.
And so anyway, she comes and this girl's like, oh, you know, my mom really wants you to come
over to our house tomorrow for brunch.
And Chelsea's just kind of like, yeah, okay.
And then Chelsea, she leaves and Chelsea says, like, that girl was so horrible.
And like, this is my recollection.
Okay, and I have a pretty good one.
This girl was like a bully.
The girl probably doesn't remember being a bully.
She's probably just like, oh, my God, I know a famous person.
I bought tickets.
I'm able to come.
But meanwhile, like, here's, you know, 50 cent who's like kind of her boyfriend.
I mean, it was a really great moment.
And so anyway, he was, he doesn't drink at all.
Oh.
And so he would just, he was just chill and, like, would take naps and not drink and, like, work.
Like, he was so normal.
And so anyway, we took this photo.
And I think I posted it.
And then I get back to the office at Chelsea Lately.
And somebody, I think Us Weekly may have written a small blurb about it.
But the Chelsea Lately people always wanted to fuck with me.
And so they made it like a bigger deal.
And which I was like, oh my God, I can't believe I'm going to Nuss Weekly.
Maybe it was all made up.
I don't know.
But they changed my age to much older.
And whenever I was at the time, I was like 40, and they made it like 44.
And I was like, what?
I got 44?
Like, and so, I mean, it always was like, not the fact that like I got my legs
wrapped around a black rapper and I'm like a married mother of three.
I was just like, how dare they say?
And they were like, we knew that would be the thing that you made you crazy.
I'm like, yep, it did.
It made me crazy.
So anyway, he was really sweet.
I remember then we went to Chelsea's brother's house, and we went and drove in his, like, bulletproof car.
Oh, wow.
And he played some music for us.
And I have a photo of that, too.
You're pretending to know the lyrics or something in the car.
No, it was like a new song.
Oh, I love this music.
No, it was a new song.
But I did like.
I mean, everybody liked that.
Everyone likes, you know, it's your birthday and all this stuff, you know.
I mean, he just knew the hits.
And so that was it.
So it was a very short thing.
and they just both only spoke quietly of each other.
So it wasn't, but he was a good time.
And I realized, like, maybe that was the attraction.
He did like comedy.
Like, you know, he's very funny and has an appreciation.
And the Dave Chappelle bits are coming out when Dave Chappelle had his show.
He did a bunch of sketches making fun of ditty.
Oh, okay.
And the biggest thing is that, and I remember seeing this going,
this is weird, at the MTV Awards, literally weeks.
after Biggie died was shot to death.
It starts out with this choir and then Diddy comes out and is dancing poorly and it's missing you.
And then nobody's cheering for him until Sting comes out and then joins and they did a mix of the song.
And then in the dock it shows not only did he then throw this big funeral for
Biggie. He made Biggie's estate pay for the funeral. Oh, wow. He didn't even pick up like the
deli sandwiches from Brent's deli. He did not even do that. Like, so if you're like, imagine your
best friend is responsible for your death and is dancing horribly. And then after that, once he got
rid of Tupac and Biggie, allegedly, then he was actually the one singing the songs and doing the
mixes and all that. And then, of course, he had the show making of the band. And then, he had the show making of the
band and then, you know, Aubrey O'Day is on it. And that's a very disturbing element of the show.
So you guys can watch. I'll talk more about it on Wednesday. But it is really, really well done.
And it really just shows you the kind of person he is. And I mean, you know, I don't even know how many men and
women he has violated over the years that have stayed silent because they were told you have no
choice. And then the other thing is he really fucked over people that were legit working for him.
He like just wouldn't pay people. Oh, he was a terrible manager. Like, because I used to cover the
music industry back in the day and all of the bands that he managed and the bands from making
the band were all like, they all wanted their money. They were getting ripped off. The
promotion cycles weren't right. Like everything. Like he wasn't good at his job. Yeah, there's so many
people that, you know, are traveling the world, doing all this stuff. I mean, there's been so
many stories about that in the music industry he's not the only culprit of it where the band just
never gets paid or they sign this long contract like he did with cassie a 10 year or 10 album deal
no song ever came out you know then she was sucked into that awful toxic situation and yeah it is
it's all the people that you that we reported on over the years that had lawsuits and things
they're all talking and then a lot of the footage was
him six days before his arrest he had a film company filming him so in order to make his own
doc when he prevailed and the reason 50 got it was because he never paid those people no way so then
the filmmakers went to those people and was like we'll pay for that that footage great wow okay
i mean it just the ultimate and then and then 50 cent does an interview and he chose to do
it. Of course, everyone wants to interview him.
He chose to do it with ABC because he knows that's the only network that they air in prison.
And so then he'll have to see it.
Well, finally, a documentary that people want to watch instead of, you know, where's Amy Bradley and it's like 10 episodes and we still don't know.
No, this, there could have been more.
This was, this, there could have been.
Like I said, they don't, they don't really touch about J-Lo.
What happened at that nightclub that night?
And they didn't really get in.
they do talk about that a woman was shot and a guy took the fall for it and again most
likely it was him. I remember meeting with a manager back in 96 or 7 and he was telling me that
he was dealing with J-Lo and and Pete, he did he or whatever he was at the time, Puffy. And he's like,
yeah, I go to this meeting and he just puts the gun on the table. And at the time I was like,
so, like, valley and naive, I just thought maybe that's what rappers do now.
Like, maybe guns are like cell phones.
I literally didn't know.
I was like, is that that weird?
I mean, it's not like you got shot.
But now I'm like, no, that was like a power scary move.
Well, people in Alabama are walking around with, like, machine guns strapped to them at, you know, Walmart.
So I don't know if that's the case.
Yeah.
I mean, at the time, I was just kind of like, oh, it's, you know, I mean, he called himself bad boy, you know.
And he acted like he grew up.
in Harlem. He went to a, you know, a private Catholic high school. Also, he didn't have like a
street life like he makes out. He was like a private school boy. Right. Oh. I think that's a lot of
them. You know, Tupac was like went to a performing art school and was, yeah, it was a little fruity
or something. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, when they show old videos of him, yeah. You're like,
wait, that's not, I saw all the rap videos. Yeah, he, I think he went to art school with Jada Pinkett.
Yeah. And they were like best friends.
Yeah, so a lot of it's all, it's just image like most stuff is.
But I know that Jailor wants nothing to do with the Didy stuff.
Her publicity team are very, they freak out.
You want people to forget that for sure.
I mean, I didn't know for a fact, like they freak out.
If her name is mentioned in any stories, Didi related, they're not happy.
So she wants like, she's trying to get so far away from it, which I don't blame her.
I'm sure she had nothing to do with it.
It's some guy she dated 20 years.
To further her career.
Yeah, to further her career.
20 years ago.
And just like every, just like any relationship, whether it's working or romantic, if, if
the perpetrator will or whatever might, might have treated her very nicely.
They might have, it might have been botonic.
It might have been all for show.
Yeah.
It might have been a nice relationship.
I don't, I mean, he may have never put his hands on her.
And then the next girl he was able to control more because the girl that he did get shortly
after J-Lo, Cassie, she looks like J-Lo. He certainly has a type. And 50 cents mother of his child
allegedly was also dating ditty. Oh, okay. And that's where the long beef comes to. And that
child is 13. And somewhere she denied it. There's a Jane Doe that's part of a lawsuit and they think
it's her. She said it's not. She's, you know, gone more private and she's a model and whatnot. But she is
sort of looks that style too but she looks to be like a mix or Asian but very I mean all the
women are attractive and um I mean all yeah you pick and and he would go after like guys that he
that were super talented that he was jealous of he would he would purposely go after their women
oh or their side chicks or whatever whoever girl they were involved with that he thought he
could woo with money he went after them okay like he was just so jealous of these men that
were successful and that were talented because he's not talented like he's not a singer and a dancer
he was a dork that got power and turn and i don't think there's anything scarier than a dork
a dork in in school that then gets power and i'm not saying we all do but the ones that do
are way worse than the the captain of the football team where life came easy to him and then that
guy becomes successful oh i totally agree that guy is
That guy's not necessarily needing to assault anyone because his life was very nice, in my opinion.
I'm just generally speaking, relaxed people.
Yeah, no, one thing I notice even just being in L.A. and in the business, the people that
aren't very good at their jobs, they seem to be the worst in general because I think deep down
they know it.
Yes.
And whereas I think the people that are just confident and really good at things, there's more
of an ease about them, you know, and a confidence.
But yeah, you have to watch out.
Confidence and they're more lovely and they're more helpful and everything.
And they're not constantly on the defense of thinking someone's trying to steal their spot, you know, whereas the insecure people, everyone's a threat to them because they know that they don't deserve to be there.
So they play dirty.
So anyway, it's very, very good.
And yeah, they, yeah, it's like Eminem tried to tell us a lot of other people tried to, in music and stuff.
This was always the talk.
I remember when I was doing Lyracist Lounge, which was the show on MTV in 90s.
and 2000
and it was like
a living color but sketch
and we had this cast
that was
like Tracy Ellis Ross
and I were like
actors on it and a couple other guys
but then it was really
these guys that were lyricists
that would like write a whole sketch
but like a rap
and I remember there was a bit
in the rap like and I'm the gay rapper
like there was this whole thing
who is the gay rapper
and Wendy Williams was like
it's Diddy
and then she like
got fired from her, her radio show or someone, there was a hit out on her, the whole thing.
And then there's a clip where she has ditty on her show.
And she goes, well, she's trying to be nice.
And she's like, you know, I have a 16 year old son.
And he goes, oh, yeah, I met him backstage.
And she literally, like, freezes.
Oh.
She's like, yeah.
Like, she knew everything.
And some people are like, now that she's, like, lucid and everything, like, now she doesn't
have the weird dementia.
and they're like, I wonder if she's doing this because now she feels safe.
Oh, maybe.
Like how many people feel safe that not only he's in prison, but now it's all been exposed.
Yeah.
There's nobody that's going to help him out or do his dirty work because he doesn't have power.
He's not going to be able to have music and things after.
I still think he'll have a comeback.
I think anybody can because he's not even being locked away for that long.
And you even said there was a girl, the juror, the jury, that was like still a fan.
Yeah, but when you see this, you're like, I don't care what the verdict was.
He's a disgusting person.
But it's also going to be like four years in the future.
People have goldfish brains now.
True that.
I mean, people were like trying to get rid of, you know, no one wanted to mess with
Scientologists when we had all of the going clear and documentaries coming out.
And then after a few years, people kind of like forgot.
It's like, oh, there's a Scientologist on Housewives.
Oh, I have a good Scientology thing coming up on Juicy Scoop.
Oh, okay.
We'll reignite it.
Bring it back.
bring it back. Oh, I want to tell this one story. This girl, I came across. And this is a look that's happening with a lot of women right now where it's like you wear every piece of jewelry. She's changling along and she's 53 and probably like a former model. And she talks about how she went to St. Bars with her girlfriend. And they ended up on this yacht with like John Bonchovey. And then the yacht right next door, they get over there and it's ditty. And he's like, hey, girl, hey. And she's like, hey, she's acting like she knows him.
right away, like she just got the, what do you call it, the intuition, that something wasn't
right. And this guy immediately, like, asked her to, like, go in the room and have sex or something
right away. And then her friend was like, her friend was there and she goes, we need to get off
this boat right now. And, like, have you seen that trend that's going on, like, TikTok and stuff that's
like, it's good to that music. And it's like, 20 years ago, someone will ask you to go on a blind date.
it's very important that you go on that blind date
and then the person shows like their wonderful life
and marriage. Have you seen this?
Yeah, yeah.
There's one guy doing a thing going,
you know, when you're 37,
the algorithm is going to show you a narcissistic trend
for you to brag about the last 20 years of your life.
It's very important that you don't do it.
And then he's like,
because I was thinking, I'm like,
well, I saw that, I'm like, oh, God.
Like, what am I going to do?
You know, talk about my blind date where I married my husband
or when I decided to start the podcast,
whatever, which is.
all fine, you know, but it's just like...
I think it's cute.
It is cute.
It just takes work.
Yeah.
And I'm too lazy to put it together.
But I kind of like it with that song.
But anyways, a lot of people are doing the opposite.
It's very important that you don't.
Okay.
And so she didn't do that, but basically it was like, you know, all the...
Like, it'd be cool to do the trend of like when you got the opportunity to do something
and you said no, like staying at this party.
And just why women especially, but all the time.
of us have it, but women have a certain, um, because we need to be more, uh, aware of our
around, sorry to speaking women, but there are always those instincts where you look back and
you're like, oh, I did follow it or shit, I knew and I didn't. And this, this was sort of an
interesting story and, um, clearly like something was going on. And there was these clips of like
him getting excited at like a fancy auction being like, wait, wait, I'm going to add, uh, two things.
a recording session with me.
I'll do it for your child. I'll do it for
whatever. And another one is
coming to my house
and it's a one night party
but I'm telling you your ass won't wake
up until Wednesday and I'll probably be in the
bed next to you. Like there are just
thank God for the internet and these people
that find this shit. Like there is so
much telling on himself
and
it's crazy and then all the
Ellen stuff
how they were asshole buddies and best friends.
Oh, I can. I didn't realize that. Oh, my God. He was on all the time. Well, towards the end of Ellen, it was either P. Diddy or a Kardashian.
Okay. Literally, that was every week there was a Kardashian. Every other week, it was P. Diddy. And it was fucking weird.
Yeah. And it's interesting that she doesn't live in America anymore.
Yeah. Well, people are still coming out. I feel like every couple of months, there's like a new comedian or someone that was on her show that's like, and Ellen was mean to me and it goes viral again.
So I don't know, like, to wait for everyone she's screwed over.
I've never met her, so I never.
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Kim Cottrell got married and she looks lovely and she's happy and she married looks to be a cute guy.
But I just noticed that the outfit, if you are a fan of Sex and the City the first movie,
is basically what Carrie was originally going to wear for her wedding.
And then at the very end, she does end up wearing it and they have a small ceremony.
That is basically what she's wearing.
It's like a 1940s jacket with like a skirt.
It's just so interesting.
I think my grandmother wore that when she got married.
It's a very 1950s look.
But it's just funny that I saw that it was exactly what Sarah Desk Parker wore in the first movie,
which I'm sure she never even thought of
because she's probably put it behind her but
well Kim control is kind of obsessed
with them I mean I like Kim
but I do feel like she likes
to she'll do like an Instagram story or
whatever it's like a sub-tweet
sometimes at the show so
maybe it was a thinly veiled
I have to say next to her getting married
I think her other favorite day of the year
was hearing that and just like that
got canceled. She loved it. That had to have been
the best day of her life
There's sometimes when bad news comes out of someone that you once loved that fucked you over
and you are like, let me dance like P. Diddy on this person's grave.
Let me get in a white suit and fucking turn on missing you and dance away because, yeah.
Sometimes you're Googling that person waiting for the bad thing to happen for them or checking their LinkedIn.
Like, has she been fired yet?
I do that.
You know it's coming.
You're just waiting.
Or you watch a doc about a horrible tyrant person
And you're like, yeah, I think I know the same version
I think I know who that person is
And you're like, okay, amazing note
Yeah, I was sometimes I just wake up in the middle of night
And think about and just like that
And that it's not ever coming back
And that I got so much out of watching it and hating it
Well, everyone loved hate watching it
It was the best hate watching situation ever, because it was a small group of us.
Well, I almost feel like more people talked about it than the original sex in the city.
I mean, it was just like, I feel like every time it was out, it's all people talked about.
I'm like, it must be a hit because it's like people won't shut up about it.
It was, when the day, when that day struck, it was like a funeral for me because I felt, okay, I pushed these people to the limit.
Like, I'm responsible.
And then there was so many dumb things
And I was like, I'm never going to see
Where they were going with the boringest storyline ever
Which was this Nicole Parker
Pretending to be, I mean, her character was a documentarian
And she was doing a whole thing
Like for Netflix on like powerful black women throughout history
And it just looked like the boringest show
That could ever be
And I'm like, oh, we're never going to see what happened
with that boring piece of art.
We're never going to see Michelle Obama's guest appearance.
Like, we're never going to see it.
It's over now.
Heather, you ruined it.
Well, it was like when they got rid of Shea Diaz and then everyone was like,
oh, we want her back now or whatever her name was.
Was that her name?
Shea Diaz?
Their name.
And yes, I miss the Shea Diaz of it was the best.
The pilot that she, that Miranda became like a TV wife.
and all of it.
It was just so bad.
It was so amazing.
And I'll never get to relive that time of my life again.
It's a highlight of the Juicy Cube history, for sure, of this show.
Mormon wives.
Okay, we had the reunion.
Stasi was the host, Stasi.
And, I mean, what do you think?
Okay, first of all, I thought Stasi did such a good job.
And I was ready to hate on her because I hated when they put Nick Viallis.
the host last season. I don't think he was good and he was biased. And he just doesn't have like
a big enough personality. Yeah. You know, his whole thing is he's like, it's like, did you take a
Xanax? Like he's always kind of like sleepy and judgy. So I didn't think he was good. And then
when they put star, I'm like, can we stop putting reality stars to host other reality stars as
reunion? But I thought she did amazing. I thought she was a great choice. One, she has a show on Hulu.
Yeah. She did the villa. She, you know, is older than these girls, which there was this moment.
there's times in life where people will come up to me
and they're like oh my god
and I'm like oh hi
and they're like I used to watch you with my mom
we bonded you know and I'm like
or you're my mom's favorite
and there's a scene in feud
that Ryan Murphy show about Joan Crawford
and Betty Davis where they're filming the show
and this actress comes up to Joan Crawford
no it comes up and she's like
hi I'm play the neighbor and she's like oh nice to meet you and she goes can I get a signed
an autograph you're my grandmother's favorite and then Joan Crawford goes over and she's like
we need to fire her like she will be fucking the director and we I know you Betty Davis and I hate
each other but we need to fire this dumb twat and it is so good but anyway there's this
moment where Taylor what's your name I was going to bring this up Taylor Frankie Hall is they're like
just settling they haven't started and
Stasi's there
And she goes
Hi, she goes, yeah, I know we haven't met
But everyone tells
What's the show you were on?
And she's like, Banner Pump Rules
And she was, yeah, I've never
What's her name?
Taylor Frankie Paul?
Taylor's like, I mean, I never saw it
But people say like I remind them
You remind me, I don't know, but
So I guess I have to watch it now.
Yeah, I have to watch it now.
I'm like, oh my God.
And then, but, you know, first she sat there and she handled it well.
But it's like, even Stasi has to realize, like, wow, yeah, these girls are 15 years younger than you.
Yeah.
Like, and they have three kids that are on their third marriage.
And Vanderpump is more.
It's a millennial era show.
Yeah.
Really, if you go back for when it started.
Yeah.
I mean, imagine if someone from the Hills was hosting, they wouldn't, they probably wouldn't even know what the Hills was.
Taylor Frank.
My grandma used to watch the hills, Lauren Comrade, you know, like they wouldn't even know.
Yeah.
I mean, I know it because my kids are in their 20s, so there's lots of times where I'll be like, wait, do you know what that is?
And half the time they do and half the time they don't, you know, it's like, but you forget because you're just walking around thinking people know this or whatever.
But yeah, so it all came down to a couple of the juicy parts.
One is Dakota, who is the dad of the Taylor, Frankie Paul,
who's going on to be on The Bachelorette.
Yeah, she's doing The Bachelorette.
Yes.
Oh, and they're filming right now.
Yes.
They're filming it.
It's crazy.
I feel like they're just filming nonstop.
I mean, they're filming the season while they're filming the reunion while they're filming
dancing with the stars and the Bachelorette.
I mean, they're doing a lot.
I know someone who flies a helicopter, and they sent me a photo from the sky of the whole place
lit up that it was the
they must have been one of the
for a rose ceremony or something yeah
so they must be in those first few weeks
of before they start going on trips and stuff
yeah but um yeah so
he wrote on his page Dakota
when you realize you could date 30 girls
without being on a TV show he's a nightmare
yeah he's horrible he's a nightmare and it comes
out that he was sexting
the mom's friend
Taylor Frankie Paul's mother's
a friend a family friend
that she met at the gym
That they were like, that she was trying to be a helpful therapist to their fucked up relationship and then started to send, you know, sexy photos of themselves.
She sent a silhouette. They kept saying it was a silhouette.
And he's like, look, I know that was a mistake. I shouldn't have taken out of my shirt and she's just like nostrils flaring and it's just.
You know, it's crazy because Taylor Frankie Paul, she does come off like she's being insane the whole time.
So you kind of believe that she's crazy and then she gets vindicated at the end.
You know, like, oh, her intuition was telling her, like, don't get on the boat or whatever.
Like, she knew something was up.
So he's awful.
I think it's a great choice for The Bachelor.
I think because that show, I think ever since Chris Harrison and just it's been on a long time.
And I think you, you know, it was a brilliant idea.
Again, ABC, so like, you know, being all within the same company, I think is smart.
They're trying to copy Bravo, I think.
It's juicy, too.
Like, what guy is really going to be like, hey, I'm ready to take on.
woman who's not only already hugely famous, but has two baby daddies I'm going to have to
deal with and a swinging history. And also, did you see when he's like, you were sexting me
last night? She's like, yeah, and? So I'm like, that's another thing. Like, I mean, I have to say
if it was my son going on The Bachelor and he got down on one knee, I wouldn't be overly thrilled
about it. No offense. This is a lot to take. You'd be happy for the
Instagram followers he would get.
But I think everything else that comes with her, but I think they're trying to kind of
copy Bravo because Bravo now is doing all of these crossovers.
I mean, a 90-day fiancé does it as well.
So now Hulu's like, we need our own things.
So it's like, let's, you know, it's Disney.
They all own, they're under the same thing.
So it's like, let's put this person on Dancing with the Stars, this person on Bachelorette.
These ones on Vanderpump Villa.
Do you see they've got Dad Talk.
The Dad's did the new season of Vanderpump Villa.
Yeah, there go.
And then Marciano's back.
I thought he got fired off Phantom Pum Villa.
So now he's back.
So as you know, Marciano was on my show, and he was a total delight behind the scenes.
He was extremely nice and respectful.
His people reached out to come on.
These people.
He's called like a whole team.
No, I'm like one person.
But you know, I had Hannah who was on the villa, who is his ex-girlfriend or I think they're still either maybe they're trying to make it work, but they have a good relationship now.
And she's had his back during these accusations in which Demi says whatever little flirtation, make kiss, whatever happened, it wasn't what she wanted.
She says it was she called him a sexual predator and said she was sexually assaulted.
She's very vague.
And then she says that it was a butt grab.
I mean, it's a fucking ridiculous.
No one agrees with her or believe.
So this is, by the way, Janet got so much shit on the valley.
This is so a thousand times worse than, like, you know what I mean?
So bad that even if what she's saying is true and you've been flirting and talking and holding each other's hand and saying it's close, and he kind of tapped her ass like that.
It was really a consensual floating moment.
You're telling me that that is what's sending you over the edge, crying as your co-star across the way, recalls being completely.
Yes, no, that you had, I'll say it.
As a aide, graped, whatever we're supposed to say.
As I can't.
Like, and then she's like, yeah, this is just like really triggering for me.
It's unbelievable.
It's jaw-dropping.
It's shocking.
I couldn't believe it.
And you know what?
Like, you're not Cassie.
Like, what are you talking about where you were in a horrible situation, but you still were texting romantic?
For the next six months.
You've been together with 10 years.
It was two days.
Like, it was, I don't even know.
I don't know what.
But when I had him come on, I posted that he'd been on and coming on the next day.
And Demi, who was on my show with Jen, now they don't like each other, Jen Affleck.
I was like one of the first.
podcast they did before the show aired
and they were both lovely and nice
and so
you know I guess she thought that was
she was mad I didn't even know what the scoop
was so I was like I didn't know that there
was even an essay thing
happening and so then she writes in my thing
like how dare you have
this person that is a
like a convicted
whatever she said she was like arrested
criminal history has a criminal history
I was like well
if you'd like to come back on come back on
Like he has a right to tell his story.
Well, now he is suing.
And he's suing her and Jeff Jenkins' production, who produces a show.
She has herself revealed that things were somewhat scripted, planned out,
where she was going to have a cliffhanger moment with that guy, Dakota, who dated Taylor.
Like, so it looked like they're having a fair, but then it wouldn't be.
Okay.
Like that they, these are also, she's spilling all the secrets.
She also, I remember that, but they also said that she kind of came up with that as an idea that that wasn't production.
But I have heard from a few people, the show is quite staged.
Like, it's one of the more staged shows, I think.
Yeah.
But there's obviously a lot of real stuff going on there.
So it's quite hard.
When you're watching it, it's hard to tell which parts are staged and which aren't because there's just so much going on.
He said Marciano said that like when Layla approaches Jesse about sleeping with Marciano in this scene,
in the car like they already planned she already knew that was happening going to happen and that's
why she's like what and so i still don't get the whole thing of how he felt demi set him up and
that's why he said that he and jesse went all the way when in fact they didn't i don't get why
he did that but at least he's come clean and said it didn't happen um but what do you think about
suing do you think that is to me he should
definitely sued to me because the fact that she is just quadrupling down on this and there's
just there's more and more evidence that just disproves her and she's on the show. Yeah, they say Lisa has
said, Lisa has said I've seen the footage and there's no such thing. Yeah. And she's using all of the
like me too language of like your victim shaming how dare you not believe, uh, you know, a woman's
experience. She's like falsely comparing her situation with Marciano to like her castmate that was like,
you know, a relative molested me at six years old.
Like, it is shocking.
I think it's gotten to a Jesse Smollett level.
Oh, me too.
Where you cannot now come forward and say, all right, like, I didn't know what to do.
I was freaking out.
I'm in this marriage.
I'm on this TV show.
It's all happened too fast.
And I did the wrong thing.
It's too late now.
Yeah.
That's what she needs to do.
Yeah.
Like, I mean, even now.
Maybe it's too late, but it's still.
better than, like, we have aimed legally, I guess she can't.
But she did this to the other guy.
What other guy?
Oh, Chase.
She said that Chase somehow brushed up against her.
Yeah, he just put his hands on me.
And then her meathead boyfriend went over.
Husband, yeah.
Husband went to get in a physical fight.
Wasn't it literally like someone going, oh, excuse me, I'm going to get a drink or something?
Wasn't it like nothing?
Yeah, he just brushed past her.
And then she goes, he just put his hands on me.
And then her husband ran over to punch his head in.
it's shocking i mean like what do you say like you can know like you can't go excuse me or like oh hi
like nothing she is indefensible and i usually i feel like i defend a lot of the villains and she
i can't it's you know i just i hope that like whatever this happens i understand why he's doing
it um but i hope he doesn't then get punished with even you know less opportunity
he's coming his way because he spoke up.
Just like a woman speaks up and then gets blackball from this industry,
I don't want it to happen to him either.
I think a lot of the girls on the show, I kind of felt bad for them.
So they were all trying to be, they clearly didn't believe DeMey at all.
They were also sort of being manipulated by DeMey as well
because she was giving them a false kind of version of events.
But they were treading the line very carefully because they were trying to be like,
well, I don't want to like question a woman that's had an experience.
They wouldn't just really flat out come and say she's full of shit.
So I can kind of get his perspective where he feels like maybe the show didn't come out strong enough in like showing that I'm innocent.
Yeah.
Like so I don't know.
I see where he's coming from.
Oh, yes.
I mean, I definitely think between my episode and what happened in social media in between she had the opportunity to.
But see, the reunion had already been filmed.
and he I said why don't you go on it
and he goes well I can't say I can't reveal why
I was supposed to and I didn't
so then I think she buried herself deeper
and then he felt this was his only recourse
well at least he's back on the show he's back on Vanapunt Villa
so the shows the network's kind of supporting him I guess
yeah I don't yeah
do you think she's going to be back for the new season
because I don't know how they could
but it's like the show is just filming continuously
it seems. So I assume she's probably already has filmed for season four.
I mean, when someone gets themselves in this position, I always just feel just like a Blake
lively, which people are comparing her to her to be like the poor man's Blake lively and
Ryan Reynolds. Sometimes the easiest way to get back in the good graces is you wait a couple
years, then you're divorced, and then you blame it on the husband. And that's like it.
I just don't know. If you're going to stick, stick together, then there's no way that you then
can somehow get out of what she buried herself.
Exactly what it is.
Blake said all this happened with Justin.
We know there was more to the story than that,
but with Justin and, you know, Baldoni,
but I don't know how you get out of it unless you say,
I was scared of my husband, and that's why I did all this shit.
Do you think her, Demi and Brett, her husband,
are going to end up on Only fans soon once they're off the show?
Because they're already, I mean, they've been talking about, you know,
peeing in each other's mouths and,
all of their freaky sex life.
And he was part of some MLM that doesn't exist anymore too.
Oh.
A multi-level marketing.
And he is very good looking.
And they're both good looking in a porn star way because have you seen all the surgery?
Have you seen what she looks like before?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you can tell she's jealous when she was like being mean to Jen Affleck.
When she's like, you were busy making money over a dancing with the stars.
Like she is jealous of it.
Oh, she's so jealous.
And the way she met her husband was he was like within the community.
he was recently divorced
from a real house
of the Salt Lake City
the other blonde pretty
Jen.
Oh, Angie Harrington.
Oh, sorry, Jet.
Yeah, Angie Harrington.
And she and her husband knew him
and they knew someone
or they thought
you should be on The Bachelor.
So I was like, oh, so you were looking
to be on TV back with your first husband
when you were basically helping
your neighbor be cast in things.
He went out for The Bachelor,
didn't get it or chose not to do it.
And then they started like,
like each other. Then she divorced that, has been got with him.
Yes.
And so, yeah, they're very attractive.
They want to be definitely keep this going.
So who knows.
But this, when you go with this kind of like, like, well, that's why I'm saying.
It's so dark and gross.
They're going to end up on the fans.
It's really hard to make light of it and be like, oh, you're going on traitors.
Yeah.
No, no, I don't think people are going to caught.
But then Jesse Smollett was on traders.
No, no, he wasn't on traders.
He was on special forces.
Maybe she will get on, here are the shows I think she might get offered.
Okay.
The SAS, the world's toughest test or whatever.
What is that?
That's the, oh no way, that's the Australian, sorry, the, what's it called here?
Special Forces.
Yeah, sorry, in Australia, it's called SAS.
Okay.
The special forces where she's got to crawl in the mud and everything, like Teresa and she'll
probably get out in episode one.
And then maybe House of Villains.
And I think that might be it.
I just think it's really hard because what she's famous for, it's not like the monica
who just had like a snarky page
Yeah
From Real House of Salt Lake City
And talk some shit
And called some girls fat or whatever
On the internet
This is like
Yeah well you know she wasn't even in mum talk
Like I think she was one of the last people cast
Because she heard all the girls were filming
When they were doing the first season
And then she kind of like inserted herself in late
And then if you remember season one
She was a fan favorite
Because she was getting in and like attacking Whitney all the time
and she yeah she was a fan favorite season one
and then from season two and three
she's like the most hated person on television
sometimes it's good to dip out after your first
if you have a really killer first season
sometimes I kind of think you know what just quit
and then
you're like Liam McSweeney should have done that
can you imagine if she had just quit after the first season
her whole life would be different
Yeah
It is really hard how much she and Jesse look like each other
Besides the eye color, it's literally the same face.
So Sidney Sweeney finally addresses the jeans ad scandal admitting her silence only fueled the fire.
Now, this is from the Daily Mail.
What does she say?
Yeah, so she put out a statement.
So if you knew that like the controversy about her has been building a building.
And then it meets to the point she was on a talk show the other day.
And they said she has a Megan Kelly Mar-a-Lago look.
So she can't do anything now without the scandal.
You know, it's getting, so she put out a statement, let me read it.
I will say, like, I think she was trying to just make it go away by not addressing it.
I think she was.
And I thought I kind of did.
Now she, like, I almost forgot.
No, it wasn't.
It wasn't.
I mean, I work at the Daily Mail.
She is, like, the number one, like, every day.
It's Sydney Sweeney.
I mean, people are, like, whatever she's doing, whether it's all the political stuff with her
or she's just, you know, in a bikini with her, you know, boobs out, which she's always doing.
It's just, like, people are obsessed.
So she put out a statement.
are anyone who knows me knows that I'm always trying to bring people together.
I'm against hate and divisiveness.
I always assume everyone's against hate and divisiveness.
I'm actually for hate and divisiveness.
I really want to tear people apart.
This would be funny if like this was also Curtis 50 Cent and said the exact same thing.
Yeah, God.
In the past, my stance has been never to respond to negative or positive press,
but recently I have come to realize that my silence regarding this issue has
only widened the divide, not closed it. So I hope the new year brings more focus on what connects
us instead of what divides us. So it's kind of a nothing statement. What was that word salad?
It's a bit of a Megan Markle type word salad. Yeah. It was or yeah, it was a nothing. Like,
well, what was it? I mean, the controversy is people think that she's, you know, a political right winger
or something or that she did a white supremacist ad. And that's what people are mad at. So I
why she's putting a statement, but the statement sort of doesn't say anything. It just says
I'm not for hate. I would have thought to say, it's like, I thought it was about jeans,
J-E-A-N-S. That's all I thought. I thought it was cute. I thought it was a parody of Brooke Shields. I
agreed to do it. I thought it was about her boobs. Everybody looked at. I mean, I've got great jeans. I've got
great jeans. Hi. Like, I thought that's what it was about. Yeah. Then I'd be like, I can,
this is what I would have said if I was for. I can see why people interpreted it that way. I know we're in a
volatile time wasn't my intent. I don't believe it was the intent of the person who wrote the
copy. And that being said, I still really like American Eagle jeans. Yeah, she has to be really
careful because you don't want to get sued by American Eagle for coming out. Like the jeans. And I don't
think that was the intention. And like, I was just doing an ad. I'm an actress. And this is what I do.
I get sponsorships. I get brand deals. And I think she should be more specific. You know, I think
people are saying, which is obviously really extreme, but people are saying, you know, she's a white
supremacist and all this stuff. I think she should say it maybe in a funny way of like, no, I'm not a
white supremacist. Like, this is crazy and then launch into the more ex. But I kind of feel like
people want an explicit statement from her. So when you just come out with the like, you know,
I don't support hate. It's like, who supports hate? Like, you know what I mean? I thought most people
don't. I just think it's really hard when you get all that and you're then you're also getting
professional people in your life telling you what to do and then you open your phone and read
all the other things and you're like oh my god no i don't want something to think that yeah and i'm
like and it's also must be very stressful because you're like so at the peak like your your star's
gone so big that it's like i mean it's too big now you are like it's yeah you are like it's yeah
you're like way bigger than scrawl johans or anything ever was there's only like what other
actress is like sexy getting all these acting roles besides her yeah she need i think she needs
take a minute away from the spotlight now because it's so overexposed. I don't know it because it's like
she's constantly doing movies as well. Like she's she has a lot of projects. So she's always out
promoting stuff. I mean, I think what's good is stop. Yeah, don't do interviews. Don't let people
know your personality. Just do your work. Just be an actress. Just be like, yeah, I'm not starting a
podcast. I'm not going to start doing TikToks. I'm just going to go be different people other than
myself. But you know what? It is hard because then she puts herself in positions like she was at
the Bezos wedding and then she's with Scooter Braun who everyone hates. That's true. So it's
kind of like, you know, she's partying with Lauren Sanchez. So she's kind of with controversial
people but then saying nothing. So then I think it's led to people kind of like putting an image
onto her. Yeah. I want to see her new, the new trashy movie that the house made her and Amanda
Seafrid. It looks like a lifetime movie. I'm 100% going to go see that.
on a rainy day at a real movie theater that serves food and drink.
That's what I'm going to do, either with someone or by myself.
I think that'll do better than the boxing one that flopped.
You know, she'd the lesbian boxer.
You know, I knew that movie was going to flop because there's no market for that
because it's a sports film.
And the truth is, like, men aren't going to go watch a sports film that's about a female boxer.
Like, they're just not.
And then women don't want to watch that.
Like, and it's also a bit like, you know, Sydney, Swinney, she's known for like a hot image, right?
She's always with her cleavage and stuff and sexy blonde bombshell.
And then she's doing these like ugly roles that I think she thinks are making her more credible.
But they're just flopping and no one wants to see it.
I think she was too early going the ugly round.
Yeah, I think so too.
I think she needed a few more hits under her belt and a few more years.
Yeah, because all of her.
But, you know, the opportunity comes up and you're like, yeah, let's do it.
you know, and she probably did really love the story.
I heard it's good, but, you know, it just wasn't a hit at the movie theater.
But I think once it comes out, maybe people will watch it.
I'm sure it's good, too.
But I also don't like seeing women beat each other up.
Yeah.
I don't like boxing in general, so I don't really, I certainly don't like it with females.
Well, all of her movies so far that have done well are like, like, she had the rom-com with Glenn Powell, the Netflix rom-com that was like a number one smash hit and then like Euphoria and like White Lowe.
and stuff like those are the things that are working for her and then she's doing these like
ugly roles that oh did you watch the one with her i love it the one with her uh julian moore where
she's the drug addicted daughter that's like a lifetime it's on apple i started it but i didn't
finish it was good well it's bad but it's good it's like it's like apple doing a lifetime movie
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Real house twice of Beverly Hills aired. And I was like, what in this like slow-mo? Like,
It starts out with Erica Jane and a pair of tennis shoes heels, washing her Porsche herself.
She's doing like a sexy 80s car wash.
Yeah, like a sexy car wash.
I was like, is this no longer a reality show or is this supposed to show that since she didn't get any money out of her divorce, she has to wash her own Porsche?
Like, what is the point of that?
It reminded me of wild things with Denise Richards washing the car.
Yeah, and also the burger, the Carl's Jr.
stuff. Oh, yeah. But her legs looked good. Yeah, she looked amazing. No, it was a lot of selling
sunset slow-mo intros all the time. Sometimes I'm like, is a slow-mo intro because there isn't
that much juice to share? I think, honestly, what it is, is that it's an aspirational lifestyle
show and people want to get a better look at the outfits. So, because it showed Derreet
coming, she was shopping in Beverly Hills and shed all the logos and Chanel and her bags and
stuff. And I think people just want to see, like, oh, where did she shop? Like, you know, how many
logos can I count on her outfit?
Right. Yeah.
Yeah. And then they were, you know, came out about, you know, they're just kind of being harsh about Sutton and how, oh, you're your, where did your assistant go? What happened there? Wow. Who cares? Like, who cares? You're thirsty assistant. He's a grown man. He'll be fine in life. Like, it just didn't work out. These relationships are meant to last forever. But people always just want to point at like, oh,
oh, you know, she must have been, you know.
Has he commented on it?
Like, has he put out a statement?
Nobody went to Garcell's.
Yeah, that was so petty.
Garcel had a movie premiere and then he went to it.
And I was like, Garcel, like, come on.
Okay, this is, so when I was on the show, maybe not the last time, but the time before I said, I hated Garcel and all your listeners were outraged.
And it was just the comment, literally I was getting comments for weeks about it.
This is what I'm talking about with Garcell.
She is so petty and jabby constantly.
And, like, there's no need for her to bring Avi.
She's the girl version of Phiddy said.
I'm going to invite you.
And let me do you.
And Avi, I have said this.
Maybe I haven't said on this show.
I was shocked to find out that Avi is married to a woman and has three kids.
Okay, that's shocking.
Yeah.
So maybe, so that's a lot.
Maybe he wasn't as dedicated or as into it, you know, as the cameras showed.
Yeah.
And, you know, everybody deserves to have an employee that wants to be there.
Yeah.
And maybe he was, you know, slacking off.
And who knows?
Yeah.
But, like, I don't like that they were all like, oh, my God.
And she lost Garcel?
Like, what?
I'm like, come on, Garcel.
It blew you off because the show was over.
You were a work friend.
That's it.
Well, okay, two things.
First of all, Sutton is like the queen of coming after people when they're going after her, going through a hard time.
So I think they're trying to give her a bit of her.
own medicine of like, well, you did this to us.
Like, now, oh, what happened with Arby? What happened with Garcel? So I think she's eating some
humble pie. As far as her and Garcel, of course it was a work. It was an alliance. Doreet
kind of says it in there. She goes, do you think it was more of an alliance?
Which it clearly was. They were never real friends. I can't believe any of the viewers even
brought into their alliance. And Garcel is so, this is what I cannot stand about Garcel. She
always does this stuff. I mean more like publicly she's
she's trying to act really classy like oh I left to spend time with my
children and I don't watch the show anymore and you know I've moved on
I'm doing all these great things at lifetime but then she's doing really
petty things like I'm going to bring Arby to the premiere and she would do
that stuff on the show and then if you called her out on it that's a microaggression
you're being a Karen would have you said that if I was you know if I wasn't black
like she pulled that all the time and then Bose came on the show and she
couldn't use that card anymore because Bose would have
called her out and she couldn't stand it. And then when she saw Sutton getting along with the
other girls and Garsell got a little pushback at the reunion, she was not used to getting
pushback. She like threw a tantrum and stormed off and was like, I quit and ghosted everyone.
She's so unprofessional. She's a brat. And if she ghosted everybody and literally never
called or texted Sutton back and Sutton tried for months, I'm sorry, that's not Sutton's fault.
That's actually being a true friend and trying. Yeah. And I really think I, I, I, I,
I know that she was really hurt by it and really thought it was real
and really thought they could repair it.
And then after, you know, a few months, you have to be like, all right, you know,
that was one chapter of my life.
Yeah.
And that's that, you know.
Garsell was very similar to Lisa Vanderpump in the fact that they were both snipers from
the side.
They both love to manipulate things and jab and everything.
But then whenever it came back on them, suddenly the victim mentality came out and everyone's
gang up on me and I can't show up to the reunion and this you know they're all bullies they're
mean girls and you know they would whip up the fans on social media like I find gusel and Lisa van
if I'm very similar so I am glad I think there's such a good lesson to be had when they when he goes
let's get a photo at the end and she's like no I'm out that's really embarrassing I think
I think I've done that on like not a photo but like I've been in those moments where and it's good
to see it because don't do
it. Be the unbothered
queen. Take the photo.
I don't think let people. Don't let
them see your sweat that much. Don't. Don't let
them see. Like that's a really good lesson
to just in real life. You know, like
that just looked not good.
Yeah. And everyone's like, what?
And also, like, I think she was upset
that Sutton was, I don't
know, trying to befriend Kyle or something. But like,
Kyle was always nice to Garcel
on the show. Garcell was the one. If you like
go, if you guys, you want to rewind
the tape and look back at the episodes like Garcel came on the show just coming after Kyle like
yeah so you know I just think Garcell's not nice and I'm glad she's gone and I feel like there was
a lot more of a sisterhood vibe on the premiere yeah without her there like you know and Lisa Vanipump
was the same I think that the women when they filmed with Lisa Vanipop then Lisa Vanipump left and
Garcel came on I think some of them were scared to be vulnerable at times because they knew that
either Lisa or Garcell or Sarton would take that vulnerability and weaponize it against them
for a show, for a storyline, you know?
Yeah.
And I think some of the women do have genuine friendships.
I mean, the viewers love to call out, you know, the Fox Force Five or whatever with, you know,
like Teddy and Erica and Kyle and Lisa Rina, but they're all still friends.
They've all, like, left the show and they still hang out.
Lisa Rina was at freaking Diana Jenkins House the other week.
I think they posted on.
rid of us. Yeah. And so they seem to have the genuine friendship, whereas with Garcell and Sutton, it's like as soon as you're not on the show, you're not talking to each other. So who had the fake friendship? They, I mean, this photo of them is gorgeous. They all look gorgeous. But I mean, I like Rachel Zoe. I feel like we're getting a very different person. We're getting someone who's just like a dedicated mom who is very happy to get it out there that her husband's a dick. Yeah, she's not happy with him. That he cares more about his new girlfriend than his kids.
And it's kind of a sneaky smart way to do it
because it's like, well, I'm on an ensemble
and the producer's asking me as I sit in this confessional chair
and I remember I interviewed her like around,
either we did a swap or something,
but she had a podcast with him.
And maybe he was there or not,
but it was a Zoom like during COVID.
And it was about their relationship.
And I just remember I was like, oh my God, you know,
so many people, you know, you've been together so long, like literally met in college and we're
together 18 years before she got pregnant and then had babies back to back. And that's interesting
too, that she was like, that's what really changed it. Because I'm like, God, you were together so long
and you did a business. Why now? And, you know, it just happens. People change or they don't.
And obviously, yeah. And it's funny because people always thought there was always room.
was that people thought he was gay because he was in the fashion industry with her.
But no, he's with a girl.
And it sounds like there definitely was an overlap of time.
Oh, yeah.
She threw that one in there.
She's like, you do the math.
I loved that.
Was there a podcast similar to Seth and Meredith Marks?
Do you remember they had a podcast together?
When there was like in the bubbles or something, they're in the bathtub together,
recording?
Could you die?
Could you die?
That's like having a hairdryer, right?
If your bike was plugged in and you dropped it?
yeah it was like no hanging by a thread or something hanging by a thread no i no theirs was about
thriving oh i mean theirs was about whatever they're how successful they are and as a marriage and a
and a working relationship well you know you either grow together or you grow apart and yeah they grow
apart but i think she's good on the show i think she she suits the show and her i like but it made
me realize yeah the only person that we've seen so far on the show that
has a significant other is Bose.
Oh, that's true.
She's got this boyfriend who they've only been together a year.
And I'm like, and you already decided to like go through the process to try and have a child with him.
I think that's a little fast.
I'm a little worried about him, honestly, because he, he's very happy to film.
I mean, he was filming last season.
Yeah.
He's filming this season.
He's all over social media.
Yeah, it was interesting.
Everybody just came alone to the party, but then she brought like a family of four.
Yeah.
I was like, I don't know, he seems to really like the spotlight.
In one way, that could be good because it's like, look, we're two, we're both in it.
And it's like Heidi and Spencer, right?
Like, but it can also be a red flag because sometimes it's good to have the, you know, it's like you and Peter.
Like, you're in the front and he's in the back, the shadows.
Like, because that's how it has to go sometimes.
Yeah.
I mean, we'll see.
I'm rooting for them.
I think Bose is great.
I think she's such a good addition to the show.
Like, I thought her and Erica kind of.
of gossiping together about whoever Erica was screwing was fun.
Yes.
Yeah, I'm excited for the season.
I think it's good.
I'm waiting for that new girl, sorry.
Yes.
I want her on there.
She looks like the, you know what, I think people are going to be like getting along on
the show and then they had to drop that girl in as like the bomb to come in.
Yeah.
I think she is going to be the bomb.
Marisa was dancing on a table.
The thirst is beyond.
It's just like typical midlife crisis.
You know, Kyle, we all looked at them as having this, like, fairy tale marriage of like, oh, my God, we all want to be like that.
Yeah.
And now it's literally the cliche of you hit middle age and then your husband leaves you for younger women and is out partying and, like, playing the field.
He'll never emotionally fulfill you.
Know that.
I mean, she's spilled.
Yeah.
That woman was right.
Yeah.
That woman was right.
It's just kind of like, I mean.
Because we never saw him be this.
easy. When she said that at that famous dinner party, the psychic at Camille's house, I was like,
what are you talking about? He's kissing her on the cheek. He's loving her. He's such a great dad.
No, this is the real Maricio. Okay, what I want to know. Dancing on a table, doing TikToks.
I want to know, was he always like this? And they just did a good job of keeping it from the cameras
because they wanted to portray a certain image. Or is it literally like kind of midlife crisis?
Not saying that in a negative way. I'm just saying that he's single now and he's like,
like, look, I've been in this committed relationship for decades. Maybe they had some kind of
like a little bit of a situation, but he's never really been able to be like out there in the
open, like partying. And maybe he's just like, I mean, I feel like me, I'm in my late 30s and I moved
to L.A. what, like two years ago? And I go out a lot more than I used to because I just kind of
feel like, um, you know, like I feel like I'm getting older and now I'm in like a new situation,
right? And I'm like, yeah, I want to go out and like have fun and have a great time that I didn't
before and I wonder if he feels like that I was married before and now I'm like I can play
the field like maybe he's just having a good time yeah and I think he's every right to do it he has
ever right to do it and have his fun and whatever it's cringe but it's all it's cringe but it's like
he's not he's not hurting anyone dancing with the stars yeah I mean I think a lot of it
wait was he was he one of the people on that oh I didn't know yeah that's why he had something
going on with the girl I think he really likes the spotlight then because he did the buying
Beverly Hills thing too I think all of it is
for some reason
she was able to keep him
in humble mode
for much longer
than an average
real house husband
and then I really think
what happened was
he got his own show
on the Netflix
then he also got
the Dancing with the Stars
and
and I don't know
I
yeah you know
yeah she was able to keep it
under control
and now it's like
the toothpaste is out of the
The tube, and there's now, and now there's no them getting back, no way.
Yeah, the thing is as well, though, it's like, we're all looking at Maricio and cringing,
for sure, but Kyle also, she had his, she did a music video.
Yes, she did a raunchy lesbian music video.
She's out here with Morgan, Morgan Wade, and she's got to make you love me.
She's had a glow-up and doing, like, sexier stuff, and she looks amazing.
So, they're both kind of doing the same.
thing in different way.
I mean, he's a little more shameless about it.
But also right now, like I said, everybody is single.
Yeah.
Except for this new girl.
Even Jennifer Tilly, she sort of has a boyfriend, but we don't see her, him ever.
She doesn't share him, whatever that situation is.
You know, that's always kind of a little bit of.
Oh, well, Erica Jane has the Spencer's bodyguard.
I know.
I hope we get to see him.
They're on a FaceTime.
I don't know if he's the bodyguard.
I think they met at the, at the, at the, at the, at the, he's something.
He's been friends with them forever.
or whatever it is, the hoopla.
UFC?
No, no.
Oh, no.
Erica and him met there, yeah, but he's been with.
No, Erica told me they actually didn't meet there.
Somehow she saw him on a podcast.
But Spencer's been with that guy for years.
Yes, they're friends.
They're all friends.
I mean, he was friends with him and the guy is great.
And I think they're still together.
And I think he's such a good match for her.
Yeah.
I mean, that's fun.
I want to see more of them together.
All right.
Let's get into Vanderpump, the new one.
What do you think?
I thought it was fun
I'm seeing a lot of negativity
for it on social media
but I think everyone's going to end up loving it
with a few more episodes
I think it's just people miss
you know people are never fucking happy
because before they're like
cancel van derpump rules it's over
it needs a reboot then they reboot it
we don't want to watch new people we want the old people
it's just like people are always going to be negative
but it's weird to see them in the purple
and being at sir
and the style of sir
you know, has been, you know, is what it is. It hasn't been remodeled.
No. So it's always empty. It does feel like we're watching a show, like you said earlier
before we started filming. It feels like we're watching a reality show from 2011.
Totally. I mean, but even the way they're stuck. Yes, it's shot that way. The way they're
styled, like their hairstyle and everything. They look like cheesy people from 15 years ago
on the CW. It's like, it's kind of shocking. There's also like a lot of Italians and it kind of like at one
point, I'm like, am I watching like mob wives? Is Big Ange going to come out with some
goat cheese balls? Like, what is this? But I kind of like that they feel very different than
the original cast. The only storyline in the first show, first episode that I thought
seemed lame and put up and maybe reenacted from a previous time is the one guy, Marcus,
drinking on the job. Oh, that was definitely fake. And then Lisa comes in to choose. It was
And so unappealing and like, why are you drinking on the job?
It's sir, like, why?
People don't even, this generation doesn't even drink that much anyway.
So why you're like, you can't get through a shift?
He's from my generation.
He's like 35.
So he probably still does drink on the job, like the rest of the drunk millennials.
No, I think it's fun.
I think they definitely reenacted stuff because it's a premiere.
Like, you have to, to set things up.
I think the thing about Vaniprom Rules and the,
they captured this is it's not a show about people working at a restaurant. It's a show about
people in their 20s that are in L.A. trying to be famous and, you know, they're thirsty and
they're all hooking up and partying and going to the same spots and like trying to make it. And I
think that captured it. So these do feel like they definitely feel like the thirsty transplants
that come to L.A. and they're trying to be influences and stuff. So I don't know. It captured
the vibe. I hope there is enough for them to do in LA. I think there will be. Well, I'm just saying
like business-wise, because every day you see like, you know, no production in LA, no shows are
in L.A. So I'm like, is there anything for these kids to do besides V-Waters? I don't know. I hope
so. They're on only fans, some of them. Two of them are on only fans already. Good for them.
Yeah. Harry and Megan's Hollywood Star are, is fading. You don't say it. These five years after
the Royal Break. She has a Netflix Christmas thing that I've only seen.
like clips and people ripping on
that she said a tradition of hers
is going to get a Christmas tree
and that he makes a surprise appearance
like it came down from upstairs
but we all know it's not their house
and then so he's pretending to
supposedly according to the York Post
Megan Merkel's father
is not doing well at all
he just had his leg amputated in the
Philippines I don't know why he's in the Philippines
but you know he's begging for her
to come see him
And I think he's really, I think him and the older daughter, the half-sister, all of that's really ugly.
And I don't think anybody should be judging, including myself, whether she needs to make amends with this man or not or what.
No, I agree with you.
Like, you know, me and my mom always fight, right?
And people, we have a great relationship, but we fight a lot.
And sometimes people judge it from the outside.
I'm like, you don't actually know the whole history of our relationship together.
so stay out of it
and I yeah I kind of feel for her
I mean
look we know she's very image conscious right
and she's getting into the royal family
there's a lot of pressure by the way
I'm no Megan Markle fans
I don't like whatever
scream at me in the comments
I hate her too
sometimes people get mad if you
you know for talking about her so much
yeah but whatever I hate her too
but I'm just saying like I can imagine
you're getting into the royal family
you want to make a good impression
and then Samantha Markle and Thomas
come out
you know, whatever they did, it's in the National Inquire
or setting up paparazzi photos and doing the tell-all circuit,
Piers Morgan, so.
Right, and her, like, you know, threatening to show up at the wedding,
the sister that she, like, barely grew up with, like, yeah,
it's a lot.
For that, I feel, like, yeah.
I would be mortified as well, but, yeah, as far as her stars fade.
I mean, here's the thing, what is she supposed to do?
Is she supposed to turn down a Netflix cooking show?
No.
Is she supposed to turn down, you know?
know, an easy-to-do podcast that gave her millions that she sat back and didn't even ask the
questions of.
But she could have done a better job with them.
She could have done a better job with it.
But it's like, be mad at the networks and stuff that gave her this thing.
And, you know, now they have to support the family now.
They have a big, big, expensive house.
And yeah, no one cares anymore.
Like, what's the scoop?
You told us already that they were assholes.
So what else do you have?
You have no other scoop.
According to people, Prince Harry jokes that life with the royal family was like Doughton Abbey.
That's a, isn't that show even on?
Except the TV show had less drama.
Well, I think now they're realizing that they need to start, you know, bringing out some juice again.
Because people are losing interest.
So they have to start, like, we want to know, like, the juice on the royal family.
So now they're starting to do that.
I mean, Harry was not appearing on her cooking show, I don't think.
And now you just said that he popped down on the Christmas special.
So they'll probably think, oh, we've got to get some people to watch.
So let's have a Harry cameo.
Yeah, look, they probably have a very expensive lifestyle, too,
because they bought the place in Montecito at the height of when they were getting,
like, Spotify and Netflix were just throwing money at them.
And they probably thought this is going to last forever.
Right.
The deals have ran out.
I don't know, you know, what else they're getting booked to do, really.
I don't know how well her pedals and jams and stuff are selling online.
So they're going to have to make some serious money
because it will cost a lot to maintain a home in Montecito
with like the taxes and the staff and everything.
So, you know, we're just waiting for her to join Beverly Hills Housewives.
I think that's what we're all waiting for.
It's going to happen eventually.
Wait, I have a prediction.
Okay.
at Vanderpump rules we have a very interesting waitress that came she knows how to do a sidework like no other
and we go way back since we both come from a small country called England well she migrated in I was there and we get along beautifully chummingly no oh my god how amazing would that be like if I was doing a sketch show that's what I would do right now
I would write a sketch that a parody of Vanderpump rules and we have a new waitress.
And it's Megan Markle making unfunny jokes and rolling her, like doing her sidework,
rolling her knife and fork and going around.
And then thirsty Harry tries to come in.
And she's like, I want to help Harry.
I do.
But he can't even make a pompini.
I mean, come on.
And she's putting rose petals on the go cheese balls.
I'm kidding what, the flowers are my thing.
I appreciate that Megan wants to bring her expertise, if you call it that.
But this serves my baby.
And if we can't all get along, someone has got to go.
You're fired.
You're fired, Megan.
Maybe they can be the next, they can do Van der Pomp Villa.
They can be one of the people that goes to.
with Marciano and Stasi.
Welcome to Van de Kompheller.
Marciano, I'd like you to meet.
Who's going to be helping you make up the beds?
Prince Harry.
I bet they were guests, not making the beds.
You've got Megan scrubbing the toilet.
Well, the first season they come as a guest.
Yes.
The second season now...
They're working at.
Yeah.
Or they have their own or under her umbrella.
She's like, wait a minute.
She watches this episode.
It's like, wait a minute.
Why don't we get them?
Remember when Tori and Dean had their Airbnb in like Riverside?
In love.
I-N-N.
Tori and Dean in love.
They're running a bed and breakfast.
Megan and Harry could do that.
What does she know about running a bed and breakfast when she was raised with like 20 servants
in the most expensive house in all of Beverly Hills?
Now, no wonder they got divorced.
She was like, how the fuck did this?
happened to me.
Yeah.
I'm like with this Canadian, I got horny for one night while doing a lifetime movie.
And now I'm making apple muffins for strangers on TV.
She's someone that knows how to make a buck.
Oh, God.
I've been waiting for her to get on Beverly Hills, but they don't want to cast her.
She has tried.
I was on her show and we were talking.
And I asked her.
And she's like, no, I've never been asked.
They don't want her on, which I wish.
I think they should put her on.
I still,
I think they feel like it looks too obvious or something.
I said never say never.
I think I could,
well,
her youngest kid is pretty young,
but I was going to say like,
I could almost see like 10 years from now.
She has inherited all the money,
you know,
with her brother.
And now she's really wealthy again.
You want to now and then candy coming.
Imagine candy coming in and judging her.
And I mean,
candy would be like,
because they've got Kathy Hilton on and like,
you would,
want the candy appearances.
Right.
She knows them all.
We want Tori on next season.
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