Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Earrings, Joe Jonas Divorce and The Matchmaking Resurgence with Adam Cohen-Aslatei

Episode Date: September 7, 2023

Joe Jonas and Sophie Turner announce their divorce. Was the media doing her dirty? After the water taxi rendezvous, Kanye and his wife allegedly crash a wedding. Kylie and Timothee get “caught” making out. A YouTuber Mom is arrested for child abuse. Diddy gives his artists their publishing rights back. Britney says no to paid Instagram ads. And juiciest of all...I was called a jewelry thief on a radio show. Then, I’m joined by Adam Cohen-Aslatei, a very modern matchmaker. He shares excellent dating tips and advice on finding meaningful relationships. We also discuss potential matches for our single friends in the Bravo world. Enjoy! Vote For Juicy Scoop: realitytelevisionawards.com/vote Get extra juice on Patreon: patreon.com/juicyscoop Subscribe on Youtube: youtube.com/@JuicyScoop Follow me on Instagram: instagram.com/heathermcdonald Follow me on TikTok: tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Check Out Adam’s Matchmaking Service: https://app.tawkify.com/register-with-referral?rf=amaor81 Follow Adam on Instagram: instagram.com/adamaslatei Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Juice is the show to know She tops Hollywood tales For real life, Mr. Sanca, it's serial data And serial systems Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Oh, I've got so much Juicy Scoop for you today. Gonna cover a lot of hot topics. And then I have a great interview with a fabulous matchmaker, Adam Cohen, and he's got tips for everybody that's looking for love. He matches for gay couples as well as straight

and everything for everyone. And we go through different bravo celebrities and who they should date. But first, let me get through all the hot topics. Remember, you know, to Heather McDonald.net to join Patreon. That's where all the personal stuff about my life is. And as well as all the Juicy stuff. And also, at Heather McDonald.net is where you get the tickets

to my shows, which I'm doing a live juicy scoop in Sacramento on September 29th and in San Francisco on September 30th. Heather McDonnell.net, let's go. Well, there's been all this talk about Joe Jonas and his wife, Sophie Turner. And it has been announced. I I'm gonna skip over to this part. She did finally put out a definite announcement. They are Unfortunately getting divorced, you know, she's 27. He's like 32. They're very young They have two small children two girls a three-in-one-year-old and she put on her Instagram Statement from the two of us after four wonderful years of marriage

We have mutually decided to amicably and our marriage. There are many speculative narratives as to why, but truly this is a united decision and we sincerely hope that everyone can respect our wishes for privacy for our children. Well, I'm going to understand why this would be hard when there's a lot of people speculating what is really going on. And there's a lot of reasons why people break up or stop being friends or whatever. But some of the things that have come out in the way that it was reported. I thought was a little biased in whoever was giving out the news or reporting it. whoever ever was giving out the news or reporting it and a couple of things that came forward was

you know what are they actually was this even true when we first got that though they're breaking up but there wasn't a definite and people were confused because on her instagram uh... on uh... on uh... right here august 14th she's kissing his hand she's wearing a cute re green dress and she does a slight show of being at the Jonas concert. So, you know, then he wasn't wearing his ring, then he was wearing his ring. And there were also reports about how he's caring for the two kids while he's on tour, and she's not.

And of course, she was in Game of Thrones. I didn't like that they mentioned that like, oh, he's the main character ever, even though he's on tour. You know, with working couples, there shouldn't be such like a mom shaming type of situation. We don't really, again, we don't know the situation. We don't know if that was for, you know, one long weekend because she was doing something.

And you know, he was like, oh my God, I want the kids on tour with me this week. We don't really know what that was. Also there was a talk of her, you know, partying and, you know, doing shots. Well she was doing that right here. Sophie Turner spotted downing shots at a bar days before Joe Jonas filed divorce. Well there's also reports that they were celebrating a wrap of a movie they just did. And someone, you know, not even herself, someone probably filmed for their Instagram, like

we all do, a people parting, you know, and then it's interpreted like, oh my god, what's this mother doing doing? Shot she's so thirsty. I don't even think she posted that. It could have been someone within her party and she wasn't going to be like, oh, no, post us. We're celebrating the fact that we finished this movie. So the final thing that came out was today on TMZ was there's allegedly something on a ring cam that was the final straw for Joe Jonas to, in fact, file. Like, what kind of evidence could be on a ring cam that would make you'd say we are definitely done?

Did he see her come in the house with another person and other guy? Was she looking for her keys and cursing out her husband? Like, you know, buzz, like this mother, I told her to leave that door open. And he's like, that is it. I am done with this, like, I don't believe that I'm door open! And he's like, that is it. I am done with this job. I don't know.

You know, we see so much video from Ringcam stuff. You know, we're a lot of evidence that's picked up whether someone's stealing a package or stealing your wife or maybe she was just ripping on them. Maybe she was just literally talking about how she thinks his music sucks. I don't know. Oh my God.

Oh, I think if I have to go to another Joe Jonas concert and then, you know, you have this look at the reencaver and he's like, I thought you loved my music, Sophie. And she's like, well, you know what? I really didn't. And he's like, I think we're done. But I think we would co-parent beautifully. And she's like, I agree. I'll put out a statement today.

Who knows? Okay. I'll put out a statement today. Who knows? Okay, this Kanye West with his poor wife, Bianca and I say poor because I really feel badly for this girl. I don't know what the hell is going on. We saw photos of her before she got with him and she, you know, dressed differently, had long hair, had a career with doing things. Now she has to walk around either barefoot or wearing really weird white pumps. She's wearing just a body nylon suit, like nylon's from the 80s,

but all the way up around her boobs, she's got nylon's on her head. She had to cut her hair short. He's dressed all weird. They were on, when I saw this a couple days ago, I did not realize what was going on because they said, oh my god, here's a photo of Kanye in this water taxi in Italy with his pants down. I'm so innocent. I'm such a good Catholic girl. I thought it was like

he just had low pants on. You know how people out guys wear their pants really low and like literally the belt is like almost right before their penis or like under their actually under their ass cheeks I just thought he was sitting there. He got up and his ass showed. That's what I thought then With further speculation it appears that she seems to be Down on her knees and there's an arm there people are speculating that maybe she was doing a sexual favor for him.

And of course, the taxi guy didn't know what was going on because he's driving the water taxi. He's not like, excuse me. But then the article said, but someone who was with them did know what was going on. Do you imagine you have to be the person with them? Like, oh, like, you know what, like if you're like Kanye's assistant,

and you're like, okay, I got this job like six years ago, and it was when he was with Kim, and we got to go to the Met Ball, and we got to do this all this fun stuff, then he set all these weird things that he was running for president, then they're getting divorced. We have to replace the Marvel eight times

in the one bathroom and hidden hills. Like, I mean, I highly doubt whoever is the assistant that had to witness this weird behavior, nakedness in Italy, I doubt that person has been around for very long because I can't imagine he can keep an employee no matter how much you pay them. Anyway, so according to the TMZ, they are no longer welcome in Venice. They have been banned from the Venice Water Taxi Company, but I don't know that they've been banned from the country. We're hearing different things like, you are banned from Italy.

I don't think that's the case, but I don't think they're supposed to be getting these water taxis anymore, which I'm sure they can afford their own boat if that's the kind of stuff they want to do. But also this came from page six. They think that this is Kanye, but he like crashed some allegedly, crashed some cute Italian wedding, and he's wearing completely covered, the whole face is covered, all black, and the video is pretty funny, page six where it seems like it's very awkward, like he shows up and he's kind of like do what a picture with me and they're like um... no i don't know what was going on there but i just thought that was sort of funny meanwhile at the Beyonce concert um... Kylie Jenner was seen having a romantic night out at the Beyonce concert with the Timothy

Chalamet. And I look, I was happy to see this. Whether this is a real relationship or not, we finally, they finally stepped it up a notch and gave us some PDA for the paparazzi to take a photo. Because as this has been going on for months, I felt like this is getting less momentum than Bethany's reality reckoning. Like, I was like, is this a real couple? I mean, like, I was just thinking about it the other day. I'm like, we don't see them. I feel like this has been dropping crumbs

the way Kyle dropped crumbs earlier with Morgan. And we were, nobody was really picking it up or really caring. I think everyone's just like, are you dating? I really don't care if you're dating, Kylie. Anyway, they showed lots of pda and what was funny about it is that it was like like all of a sudden she kind of is like, and she sees the camera and she locks eyes with the camera and she starts like kissing and going and rubbing each other. And so there are a lot of comments of like, did they call the paparazzi? Is this a planned thing? Of course, the paparazzi is going to be a Beyonce. And

so it's not like it was an obscure place. I mean, they know where the VIPs are. And they know they're going to be photographed if they go to Beyonce. So I don't think they were calling them up like a certain like like Tamara accused Heather DeB Bro of calling up a paparazzi to take photos of them while they are at Disneyland. This was probably whatever, but it worked out because now we know no, they are at least they're kissing. They're definitely kissing because we saw them kiss. So then here they're kissing and Ova also Travis Scott

was there as well. The father of her two children and her long time partner, though they are just co-parents now, and she made that clear many months ago, even before she had birthed her second child. She did this long article with these really cool photos that was actually shelved, because it was supposed to come out

like the week of the Astral World Horrible Tragedy. And but in it, because some people grabbed it in it, she was like, we're not a couple, but we are her family. Like we don't have, we don't practice monogamy, we don't think we're going to be together for the rest of our lives, but we are going to be a family for the rest of our lives. But Travis Scott has this, in one of his songs, they say his track Meltdown. Before going on to the rap, he says the former lover should try to find another flame hot as me bitch.

That's what he says in his song. So he was there as well. I don't really think he cares whatever this is. But then I was at a birthday dinner last night with my friend and we were sitting at a booth, we were at Craig's and it was a birthday, a dinner that we planned a month ago and it was for Lawless birthday along with Josh Flagg was there because we're all good friends and Logan and Leo. And I was sitting next to Logan and Leo

was just had his camera out. And then I don't even know who's gonna film anything, but he happened to capture this. And then I like had eye contact. And then I just went and acted like I was kissing Logan who is a gay man, so I'm not cheating. But anyway, I was just kind of thinking that's what this sort of look like to me,

so whatever we posted it. Speaking of love, Lakers owner, Jeannie Busch, who have met several times and Jay Moore, a friend of mine, they are in fact married. And I've talked to them before after she got engaged and he's so in love with her, they're so happy. It was a very, very small ceremony. No lakers were there. They just did it on the beach. And, you know, he's been divorced and has a child. She, I don't know that she's ever been married. I believe she doesn't have kids.

And they've been a lot together for a while. And they're really happy. And I keep asking her to come on the show. She's such an interesting life story. And she's like such like a good spirited person. So hopefully she will come on juicy scoop. Well, she can give us all the juicy scoop. And there's been so many TV shows and things in the works about the juiciness of the Lakers and her father and everything. So I think that would be really fun. But happy for them. But no, I was not invited. So whatever, it's okay.

Just come on, she's just good. Okay, guys, this is a very disturbing sad story, but I have to address it. There is this YouTuber. She had a very popular YouTube channel. She made a lot of money on it. I assume because she had lots of views. Okay, and she was well known. It was called Eight Passengers. I believe it's because maybe she has eight or six kits. money on it, I assume, because she had lots of views, okay? And she was well known.

It was called Eight Passengers. I believe it's because maybe she has eight or six kids. She has multiple kids. She at least has five or six kids. And she's married, and she is Mormon. And she has been arrested for child abuse. Her name, so disturbing, her name is Ruby Frankie. And it was called Eight Pastagers was the YouTube

channel. She has been arrested on charges of aggravated child abuse in Utah. Please were alerted after a severely malnutrition and wounded child climbed out of a window at their home and the child and then they found a child in similar condition was found inside the home. Both the children haven't hospitalized and the four minors were placed into child protective services and her eldest daughter and her sisters applauded the arrest and said it was long overdue.

And the daughter has gone out on TikTok and social media to say, please go through my mom's YouTube channel and please collect any video that you think that you see that now makes sense that she's essentially an abuser, you know, like look at it. So many people have made really great videos putting this stuff together and showing it. I had seen this woman like in bits and pieces of things before the arrest and thought it was kind of weird. I didn't follow her channel, really know about it. But really some of the awful things that she would do is it was she was very much about withholding food. And she would talk about it on her camera.

She goes, well, it's my daughter's job to make her meal her lunch. And she didn't. So the school called and they were disturbed that she didn't have a lunch. And I was like, well, she's just going to have to go hungry. And there's nothing wrong with going hungry. They have responsibilities. There's, I mean, I can't believe the stuff she would show. She had a teenage son that they're joking about how for his punishment, he had to sleep on a bean bag for like two months. This other little child, she's holding her little favorite stuffed doll and she said, if you use your scissors to cut another thing in my home, everything in this home is mine.

I will cut off the head of this doll. Do you like that? She posted this stuff. And people did report, like, I don't know if they reported to authorities, but there were people that were talking about how this was disturbing, and they didn't understand why this mother

was mothering this way, and they didn't agree with it. They, she and the husband also did a video about how their son is, everybody has to get out of the house at 18. The minute they turn 18, they're not allowed to live at the house, they're not expected to. And in fact, one of their sons, they sent off to one of those wilderness places. Sounds like kind of where Paris Hilton went, which is, you know, we know now is I don't believe the greatest situation for kids ever. And they're saying,

you know what? They only are going to have the clothes on their back and a few items to survive. They don't even have a tent. They'll have to and you know and that way they'll get these life skills they need. Where in a mirror like really most people don't have to live in the fricking woods without a tent. You know so this is not a life skill I believe in teaching a kid at 18. I don't agree with it. So this is not a life skill I believe in teaching a kid at 18. I don't agree with it. But these kids that they found were severely abused

according to the report. They had duct tape on them. They were, you know, laceration starving. The kid that got out of the window was begging, ran out, escaped, and was begging for food and water. And I've been talking about the fact that these parents, even when they're not, oh my god, physically, or abusing these kids or withholding food, that they're profiting off of their children.

They're getting all this ad money, and I believe it's Indiana as the first state to pass the law saying that you're not allowed to do this. That you, you know, more have to do it just like if your child was on Disney, you can only take 10 or 15% of their money. That's the Kuggen law. There's going to be more laws about parents profiting off using your minor children in their videos, in their YouTube to sell, to get ad space on those YouTube videos to sell products.

And the fact that you're being, it's humiliating enough and scary enough as a child when you do mess up and you're being, she's like, you're getting a tongue lashing, but then to see the camera. And she would even say, oh, this isn't even as bad as it could be because the camera's here.

And the fear that these kids have, and then you just, you know, little bits that people are collecting from her stuff that she all put out there, where the child is just, you know, coming home from school and they're just broken, they're scared to go home, they say, mommy, you're scary, like it is heartbreaking. And thank good this was found out.

And the dad has retained an attorney. The kids are in child protection services, but his attorney in here fighting to make sure that he retains custody and that they stay in his care. But I mean, I don't know about that. Okay, sister wives. Okay. Sister wives. Okay. Sister wives was so good on Sunday because we finally got to see Janelle come forward and have this blown out fight that was like very juicy with her and Cody. To remind you, Janelle is the second wife and Christine wife number three has already

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use code juicy. So meanwhile, Janelle is They're arguing about how her grown sons mainly don't want to deal with him and how he treated them during COVID with all his rules and Really giving them no attention for it appears for the last few years since he married Robin. He's much more into her Three kids that she brought into the marriage and then they have two little ones together. So in it though, they're fighting and he's blaming her. He said, you turn the kids against me and she's like, no, I never did that. And he's like, that she goes, you gaslit me. He goes, you only are using that word gaslight because I'm using it.

You stole my word and she goes, oh no, I was planning on using this word gaslight before you ever came over to this apartment. That was my favorite part of the scene. The apartment that she's in, because she finally realized I can't live on this trailer and we're never gonna build on this land. And what's really sad about the, they had the best situation in Las Vegas.

They had four homes, each wife had her own home with her own kids on a cul-de-sac in Las Vegas. They had four homes, each wife had her own home with their own kids on a cul-de-sac in Las Vegas. And Cody wanted to buy this land and build on this land in Flagstaff, Arizona called Coyote Pass. And they have a loan and basically they're probably going to lose everything. Whatever they paid for the land, they're going to, like, they never built because they didn't pay off the loan and someone's carrying the papers. It's a big mess. And sadly, Janelle realizes, and she says it,

I'm 50 years old, and I, she said, oh, my heck, like I have nothing financially. She was the wife that worked the whole time and put all the money into the pot. While Christine helped watch their combined kids together, then Robin comes in and Robin and Cody take all the money that she's been working for and they buy a home while she rents and Mary rents and Christine was renting. Now Christine is like, goodbye, I'm taking the little bit of profit I have from some property.

And I got the heck out of here and I went back to Utah. But Janelle is left with just a rented apartment. The property is not in her name. She is not legally married to Cody. It's a nightmare. So Janelle, if you'd like to come on juice to scoop and tell your story, and then afterwards everyone will love you, and then you can start your own podcast and whatever we can work out, what that podcast will be, then you can hopefully be a successful woman

and get your own property and do your own thing. But I, again, just, it is shocking and I've said that none of them are living the high life, though. None of them. I again, just it is shocking and I've said this, none of them are living the high life though, none of them. I mean, they have decent cars, the house that Robin and he live in appears to be okay. It's on a couple acres, but it's not like they're utilizing the acres or not like, they don't have like a tennis court and a gorgeous pool. It's just kind of like, Woodsy and Brown. It's nothing great. And the show has been going on for seven.

I think this is the 17th or 18th season So I do think like hmm maybe these people do need a union But I think the problem with the reality show union That's been talked about that has like I said the least momentum of any movement I've ever seen I think part of it is because I don't think this is something America really cares about I don't think this is something America really cares about. I don't think America is like, wow, you know what? That girl in season five of the bachelor really got screwed over.

She drank too much because there was too much alcohol and set and she came off like an asshole and now she's having trouble getting married and occasionally having trouble getting a job so Bethany where do we go to pick it the like I just think it's one of those things that's the same thing with burning man Where I kind of feel like people weren't overly upset or feeling scared for these people in burning man because They were like we live off the land and we can live for four more days because it's so muddy and there's so much rain that came. I would never wanna go to Burning Man. I mean, it seems absolutely horrible.

I've told you my camping story when I was a baby that has been told to me over and over and it definitely scarred me and made me never wanna camp. I've talked to my one friend who did escape, but he's been going for 27 years and he's like, oh, don't even worry about it. We are in this fabulous, we have this, our camp includes chefs, cooks, you know, generators, air conditioners, beds, sheets.

It's not, so there was this level that you could pay for or whatever, and they were perfectly fine. And then he had a truck that he was able to escape on Sunday out of there. And it was like, I'll just leave my camper and come back in two weeks because I have a nice home somewhere else. And it really felt like kind of the haves and the haves not.

And then it really made me think like my god, you know, and then the stars like Chris Rock was there and Diplo I think or maybe some other DJs, they were able to escape. They were able to walk and then they some fan picked them up and they were like goodbye and they got out and all the wealthiest people got to leave and the other people are like, whatever, you know, I can stay longer, I have a little cot. They don't even seem to mind it, it seem like. And, um, but it do remind me like when the earth really goes to shit, it's going to be the really wealthy people that are like, oh yeah, we're just going over to this other planet.

And by, by, go wallow in your mud, like it was, but it was definitely something, like I just think it's one of those things where we're not focused on that these people really are suffering that much and we don't really care. Okay, now let me get into this next story. Diddy, as you know, has all these artists. And he, according to TMZ, has turned down nine figures because he chose to give bad boy artists their publishing rights back. This is very, very interesting that he did this. Titty chose to do the right thing over money,

and the fact that he turned down such a fortune to make his former artists have control of their own music. So everyone thinks it is so great, and really important. We're told that the rationale for this boils down to wanting to revolutionize the industry with this to empower artists and to switch up the dynamic. So of course, when something like this happens, people start to speculate. And there are some interesting theories and things that have emerged on the internet. This one is from marka.com.

And there's been stories that there was some grooming going on and some crazy all-male parties. Jamie Foxx is a video, Jamie Foxx talking about it, involving Puffy at the time. And these are just videos and stories. They could be manipulated. They might be all alleged stuff. But when I was at lyricist lounge,

which was a show I did on MTV, which was sketched but mixed with rap, I also heard of these stories of these all male I also heard of these stories of these all male thing parties going on with rappers and young, younger artists, maybe very young. So I, but I only heard like rumblings of it and I was like what? And then we'd like to do a sketch or whatever.

So I have no evidence of this, but there is a lot of chatter on the internet that maybe this because there are these people talking about this stuff that could be very negative rumors or possibly true, that that was the motivation to do this really great deed and put that to rest and have people be like, well, who cares? Look at this great thing you did. Don't bury that. Don't bring that up.

Nobody cares. Nobody wants to know. And if nobody's actually coming forward, which appears nobody's coming forward, then this just might be rumors and alleged stories to make someone look bad who's actually doing something great. So there's a juice behind that. Now, remember this awful real housewife story.

There's lots of stories on this, but this is coming from all about the real housewives Instagram. And so let me right now, so real housewives of New Jersey Old cast there was Caroline Manzo and her sister Dina Manzo not only were they sisters But they had the same married last name because they married brothers and Dina Manzo divorced that brother and his name was Thomas and she was engaged to somebody else And there was this horrible attack that happened on her and her fiance. He's now her husband at the time and they arrested Thomas Manzo for hiring this person to do this awful hit.

And the person was named, hold on, John Perna is the one who did it and they found out that John Perna was offered some discounts at the brownstone, which is the dining hall and like area people have weddings that the man's or brothers both owned for his wedding in Patterson, New Jersey. So in realizing that they did this research, he has been arrested. And right now, he is trying to get a plea deal. He has pushed off this trial many times. And he hired a new attorney just last November. Caroline Manzo, Dena's biological sister, did write a letter vouching for Tommy's character during

all this time. And Tommy now has until November 17th to make an agreement with the prosecution for a plea deal because he faces up to 43 years in the slammer if convicted. He kept pushing off the trial and now supposedly he's going to try to do some type of plea deal for hiring or ranging for this guy to come and physically Attack them both and break into their homes. So it's really awful and No surprise that Dina Manzo and Caroline Manzo are still not talking Can't imagine why

Britney Spears is not accepting Social media promo deals despite potentially high payout from TMZ. I've talked about this. Would she, you know, why doesn't she do only fans? I can see why maybe she does and I think maybe she has explored it. I have heard that she has maybe looked into it, but then realized, ooh, what you really have to do, I don't want to do that. But then realized, ooh, what you really have to do, I don't want to do that. I thought, what about just making her Instagram subscription? That's what I think would be a great idea. But she has her book coming out.

Supposedly she's got music coming out. So hopefully she'll be back on top soon. I don't know. The videos are crazy. They're getting stranger. She keeps putting them out. But I'm dying to hear about the book. I have heard some people have read it and they just said it's like ground like you're gonna die. It's so juicy. And she's written every word. It wasn't like someone was a ghost writer. So maybe she's just like, I don't need this and I don't want, and also doing, let me

say doing sponsored ads for social media and stuff, they're not like you can just, well, I did just see a clip of Gwereith Peltro talking about seed, which I love. This little pill that you take to keep you like regular, it's a probiotic and pre-biotic and one. And she's doing it. And like her kid is like making a latte. And you hear like the steamer in the back of the kitchen. And she didn't even redo it.

Now I don't know if she wasn't paid for that or what. But usually when you do these ads, you have to read the content. You have to say it right. Then you send it to the company. And then they say, oh, yes, but don't compare it to this and do this. And you, so it's not as easy as it looks.

And being that she doesn't like to take direction or for fear that all of a sudden she feels controlled, that's why she's like, I do my own dances, I post to myself, I think that's why she's like, no, it just too much work for what the money would be, but if she was to say she loved something besides the Amazon clothes that she buys herself for $22 or her sheen designs or wherever she gets them,

if she was to say like she really liked something, I don't even know if that would be the, so I don't even know if the offers have been. I think if I had a big product, money or not, I really don't know that I want Britney Spears to be the spokesperson right now Maybe in the future, but right now I don't know about her endorsing something that would make people go if Britney loves it I want it. I think she's probably better off just saying no and let me just spin around and have a coffee or

Red Bull or whatever to spend around and have a coffee or red bull or whatever. This was interesting. Miley Cyrus said she did not make a dime on her bangers tour. She said she spent so much on this is when she was humping teddy bears. Do you remember? This was like the first time we saw that she seemed real horny and bisexual. Well, she is bisexual. She said that.

This is like the first time she was doing this is when she's wearing the little things in her hair. I remember because I did an impression of her when I was on Chelsea lately and I wore the outfit and I humped a teddy bear and Anyway, she had these enormous special effects. She was obsessed with the movie the Truman show with Jim Carrey So she would leave out of, wait, she would leave out the way that Jim Carrey like ended the movie, she would do that on her show, and she'd, oh, she flew out of a giant dog or something. Anyway, all this stuff left her with no profits, even though it brought in 70 million dollars

in ticket sales. There's probably a lot more to unfold besides for just having really large teddy bears on stage and going into a dog. I don't know. But myself personally, when I did my special in 2014, my first standard special, it was sold to Showtime, and then it was sold to Netflix,

and I still did not make one dime. Because every time it got sold, I'd say, well, where do I get a check down? And they say, oh no, that hasn't covered all the expenses of producing the standard of special. I didn't have teddy bears. I had a mic and I had myself and I wrote all the material. And even then, I didn't get a dime.

But this is a very common story for comedians as well as musicians. So there you go girl, I feel you 2014, not great. Erica James, residency though, you can go see it. The girls were all there. Erica Dereet and Lisa Renner, who's no longer on the show, they all party, they all had dinner, they all had fun, they all supported Eric and Jay. And I heard her singing and she does a couple covers and she's like, because I am living in a material world and I am just a material girl.

Anyway, the crowd went crazy, lay loved it. And according to, what is this to buy wig drama? It's a great. Oh, buy wig. Hello, drama. It's a very funny Instagram account. Anyway, you can get tickets for as low as $7. I say go for it. Check it out. I think it's on StubHub. Listen, it is hard to sell tickets these days. It really is. Make a girl's week and go to oral husband week and her boyfriend week and whatever. It

looks like it's fun. And you know, the oftentimes we just got to get people in the seats. They make the money off the drinks or whatever. She's working her ass off and she's having fun and goes, you know, that's what you're into. But all it means, go. Of course, I'm going to be there November 4th at the Venetian, but my show is already sold out. And Brandi and Julie will be joining me at that show during that weekend, which happens to be just happens to be bravo con. So I hope you got to accept that because that's sold out.

Taylor Armstrong look so good she cut her hair short and the bans really work for her oh my god she's amazing and um... she just talked on kyle and marisa's break up says she loves them who knows i really think we're gonna i think they're keeping it quiet but i definitely don't think they're together and i definitely think they're getting divorced but we're

going to be able to watch it on the show um... the murder trial a little uh... update on the murder trial he is asking for eight this is the the man that killed convicted of killing his wife and son he is asking uh... for a new trial because they said this this clerk supposedly they're in their complaint saying that this person was telling the jury, don't listen to what he says, don't believe him, tampering with the jury, and that this person has a book coming out or going to work on

a book and also went with three jury members to the date show. So it sounded like it sounds like a thirsty clerk may have ruined it for somebody. Now I just want to clear up a real juicy crazy story about my own life that ended up going public. So I had this friend and you know when you have a girlfriend and you're getting ready and you realize, oh shoot, I forgot to bring earrings. She goes here, borrow these. So I put the earrings in and they were gold. These ones that I'm wearing right now, I wear them all the time, but they are not real. They are diamond hoops, they are not real. I think they cost like $90.

I wear them all the time. I thought this was what these earrings were. There was no conversation of don't lose them, they're expensive, nothing. So I had them in my possession and I was at a, I was traveling and I was dancing at a restaurant which they encouraged dancing at in St. Bart's and somebody was filming it and posted it in our group and I was entertained with crowd by being a spaz and dancing like I do and I did not realize until after it was posted that someone said her earring fell.

And being that it was my friend's earring, though I didn't know they were real, I felt bad. Of course, I wanted them back. Also, they were cute earrings. I called the restaurant, they didn't find them. I went back to the restaurant. I sifted through the sand the best I could. I couldn't find it.

She wrote me, I went through all of my text messages and everything. And it was only one little thing, like, did you find my earring laughing, crying emoji face? Nothing like shit. Those were really expensive earrings did I not tell you? So, anyway, on a public radio show, it was said that I am a thief, that I could be convicted of a felon for stealing these earrings because they are so expensive that it elevates the crime to the felony level and that this woman

should sue me for stealing her earrings. This was the first I ever heard that they were of any kind of value more than like maybe $100. Since the earring incident happened, that was, I went through all my texts, there was no other mention of it. Sentimental, it's this much, what are we gonna do? How can you pay me for this?

We continued to text throughout these all these months. She went to my birthday around June 14th, no mention of the earring. I picked up the entire meal for the five girlfriends that were there. No mention of the earring until this was on a public radio show accusing me of being a jewelry thief. A comedian who steals jewelry from friends.

So, I immediately wrote her. I said said this is the first time hearing that they were of such value. Had I known, I would have given you this money sooner. How much were the earrings? She said, I bought them at a store in La Jolla. I think they're about 2700 to 3000 or 3000. I said a check for 3000 dollars is going in the mail. It was mailed yesterday, Tuesday. So hopefully she, by the time she's listening to this, she has received it, it will absolutely clear. And that is the case. But I, I personally have never lent jewelry

to anybody that was any value. The only time someone has ever lent me real jewelry was on my wedding day My friend let me hurt diamond cross no well did and I was very nervous about it and I believe I didn't even take it on my honeymoon I put it like in my parents like safe before I left because it was her because it was expensive I didn't want to wear this on a trip. I would have never Traveled with anything of that value that wasn't mine ever and had

I known that I lost that earring. It would have ruined my trip that I, if I knew it was that expensive. So what I find interesting is I think that what happened in this particular case is she chose not to tell me how expensive it was because this was a planned attack on my reputation and the business that I've built from Scroch for eight years. This was a planned attack on me to publicly try to destroy me. And that is the only thing they have on me. They don't have anything else.

I don't. I will get in more of all the things i don't do and all the things that i believe that the stem tram but i just wanted to put out here that uh... no didn't know that your ex-workspensive was not trying to avoid paying them back and for some of the the men out there that maybe don't understand how

barring jewelry and assuming that it's fake and not lending your real jewelry to anybody and not even asking someone to and not lending your real jewelry to anybody and not even asking someone to, I would not even ask to borrow the jewelry again with the cross that was offered to me on my wedding 23 years ago to the man I'm still married to. So, you know, and so yeah, it was pretty devastating to hear that being said about yourself and I just want to clear that up. But if I would compare this to something, I'm like, it's like if you're golfing with your buddy and you say, oh, hey, borrow my putter. And then after a few beers, you put your putter in your golf bag.

The guy never asked for it again. And then all of a sudden, you're driving around your car and you're hearing on the radio that you stole his goal-plated putter and never gave it back when there was no conversation really about it and certainly not a demand for money, nothing, nothing. So just so you know, that's, that was my juicy public story that happened this week. And for more about it, you go to Heather McDonald dot net and click on Patreon and now for all you single people that would like to get some tips and figure out how to find a lot of your love of your life listen to this fun light

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I am so excited to be here with the queen of pop culture herself. Heather and McDonald, let's get into it. Relationships, dating, sex and everything in between. We're going to help a lot of bravo celebrities. You and I have a lot of suggestions for our single bravo friends. Yes. Okay. So tell me a little bit about your company and what you guys do. Yeah. So I've been in the dating and relationship world for 14 years. 14. Now wait a minute. I know I look really young, but 14 years. How old are you? I am in my 30s.

So when you started as a teenager, you started as a dating expert in your teenagers years. I was a grad student. I created my first dating website at the age of 21. Really? 2008. So now you're gonna do the math, I know. But anyway, that's really cool.

And then I started working for all these different dating apps, running them, running product, running marketing. And then I ended up working for Bumble for a while. So do you, are you friendly with Whitney? Whitney. I know Whitney very well. We worked very closely together. I'm very close to her mother-in-law. You are? Yes. I know her husband. Yeah, Michael. Yeah. And husband a couple of times. We were on some intimate trips together. Oh, good.

So always for another time, because those are other NDAs. Yeah. Those are NDAs. Yeah, but I mean, I hope I can say that I'm friends with her mother-in-law. I think I can say it. Yeah. Oh, you said it. Okay.

Whatever. Yeah. So it's happened. Yeah. Yeah. So I ended up starting my own company called Smoor, which was the world's first anti-superficial dating app. So imagine you're on a dating app, but you're not judging people. They're not judging you.

You're getting to know them. And the more you chat with them, the more of them you see. So for people who don't want to be judged right away and want the actual conversation to take more than 30 seconds, they would download Smoor. They would use our app. And we also- Is that still exist?

So I sold my company to a company called Talkify. So for your listeners who know Talkify, they're the largest matchmaking company in America. So traditional matchmaking, but also they're launching the first ever matchmaking app coming out this winter. So everyone will be able to take advantage of true matchmaking. I mean, I truly feel like, first of all, none of this, the only thing that existed for me, you're going to die, was great expectations. What?

Yes. This is so long ago. So I was like 25 and I always knew I wanted to get married and have kids. And I was just like, I feel like if I keep going at this rate of dating people and not finding anyone special or whatever, you know, I'm going to be too old and it's going to be that difficult. So, I was like, I want to do this thing in great expectations. This is how old it was. You go to this place and you spend a lot, you pay a fee, and then you would do a video and talk about your life and then you would go in there and they'd be like, hi Heather, these, and I didn't realize that

I was maybe like the youngest and most normal person doing it. I had so many people wanting to date me. I couldn't believe it. And so then it kind of became overwhelming because then you were supposed to like, it was almost like a library and you'd go and you would take a video tape out and then you'd have to watch them. I would love this. And so finally I was like, this is too much for me.

It's overwhelming. So I said to the girl, I'm like, do you know any of these people? Can you give me like three? Yeah. So I look at three and one's a doctor and one's like a pretty cute guy that's like closer to my age.

So I did date some people, but then- It feels like you're giving me a sperm bank story. Yeah, so I did it. I like going to flip the book. Right, it was a little bit like that. Like it was that and then anyway, none of them worked out. And then I kind of was like screw it.

It was a weird thing. And people that would go on the dates are like, why are you doing this? Like you don't seem like you'd have trouble. I'm like, well, I want to find people that actually on the road to like getting married, having kids, whatever. And being comedian, being from LA, the people that I were meeting were great material for me.

Like, every day it was like a good three minute new bit for my standup, but wasn't turning out. So getting back to what I think is interesting now is I do believe there is going to be more of a movement though I do think the apps and everything are great and so many people I know have met their person on the apps. But after five years of being on them. I don't know everyone has a different sort but I do think the matchmaking world is going to become more and more something that now people go back to wanting to not rely on the apps to actually have to force themselves out or have.

I think it's cool that a lot of the apps also have in live meet and greets, where they're like events. Yeah, events, I think that's really smart. And then I also have joked about it, but I am serious. I would like to create something that I could do with you. What, tell me. Like modern day parents arranged marriage. Okay, that's a TV show,

and we'll think about that after this podcast. Because when I've talked about it briefly to my sons, I'm like, would you ever care if I found you the girl, whatever, and they're like, not if she's, you know, as long as she's hot, would you ever care if I found you the girl, whatever, and they're like not if she's, you know, as long as she's hot, whatever, who care. And I'm like, you know, look, it shouldn't just be reserved for certain cultures, is what I'm saying.

Totally. Because you find, like-minded grandparents to be, what do I see my life as a grandparent? My friend and I would like to go and cruise us together. We are fine with the nanny. We also want to be super into the kids life. We're not overbred. We would like our kids to get together or you find someone like in my juicy scoop community because my boys are 2017. I've got women all the time being like my girl is 18. What if we are mother-in-law together? And I'm like, I'm telling you, you can do it.

We can do it because these kids aren't as social as they used to be, and sometimes it's like awkward or whatever, and we need to help them in this post-COVID-post tech world to, they still need to match up, enough with all these apartments that are being built as single dwellings. Yes.

We do need to get people together, fall in love, and make a partnership, you know? I agree, and I also, look, I worked for dating apps for so many years. Yeah. I know everything there is to know about a dating app. Matchmaking's new to me, and matchmaking is very impressive because if you look at where all these apps are going,

a lot of people now, my generation, millennials, have been on them for 10 years, 11 years. Yeah, they start as like 18, right? 18 and, you know, millennials are the most single generation in the history of America. Of course, yeah. And is it a coincidence that we all use dating apps? And so when someone tells you there's a million fish in the sea, if the other person that you saw on a date wasn't perfection, swipe again, there's literally, literally an app called Plenty of Fish.

Right. And so we start to treat people like they're not human. We start to treat them like they're objects. And look, it could be very fun. They were great for casual encounters. It's harder for them to work for proper relationships because at the end of the day, the technology facilitates what the humans are wanting.

And if two people aren't really high intent, then the outcome is not going to be what you're looking for. Yeah if two people aren't really high in tent, then the outcome is not going to be what you're looking for. And so when you think about matchmaking, when you go to a matchmaker, it's because your intent is really high. So your success rate oftentimes is like eight to 10 times higher. So if you are sick and tired of swiping through these apps,

and having these pointless conversations at least in mediocre dates, bad flings, and then you feel bad about yourself, get yourself into talk if I, at least in mediocre dates, bad flings, and then you feel bad about yourself, get yourself into talk if I, at least into the database or hire a person because every single date will be amazing. So, I do think that's really interesting. Now, what about the fact that, you know,

girls that are hot can join this for free or very little money, and someone who is like a patty-singer millionaire matchmaker, whatever, they pay. Does that still exist where it's like, you know. So actually, you can negotiate your price is what I'm saying. Yeah, so with talkify, so look, matchmaker is do different

things. We are actually a relationship wellness company. So let's think about what that means. So for us, anyone can join our database. We're gonna vet you. We're gonna make sure that you're a proper person. We don't wanna have any kind of scam artist associated with our company.

But for a hundred bucks a year, you enter our network and you have the ability to be matched with some of our clients. Our clients who have their own private matchmakers and date coaches, they run the process. So the matchmaker will sit down with not Heather McDonald, but Heather McDonald's sister and say, hey, single sister, what are you looking for?

Let me become a very good, one of your friends and get to know who you are, what makes you tick, and then scour America to find the best people for you. Now, I have a question with the dating coaches, whatever. You know, I do think there's certain guys and girls for that matter. And Patty Stanger would do this a little bit. You know, she's a friend of both of ours back in the day of her show. And some people thought it was harsh. And but like I do believe

that sometimes someone just wasn't raised with the sense of style or wasn't, or even based on where they're coming from. Now they've got a few bucks, but they, they don't know the etiquette of, you know, fine dining or whatever, like a pretty woman. Like do you provide some of that of like, dude, let's go shopping, like a queer eye for the straight guy or queer eye for queer eye or whatever, like, you know, that kind of help of like, let's get you some proper bedding. Let's up your apartment. Let's clean it. like, let's get you some proper bedding, let's up your apartment.

Let's clean it. Yeah, let's get you some clothes. Let's build your confidence away because maybe you didn't have a girlfriend in high school college. Maybe you wore that person that played video games the Friday night, but you're really smart. Yeah. And you have a lot to offer because you're like a nice great person. And you literally need like a socialization class. I think first of all, I love Patty Stanger. I think that she made the industry much more mainstream. I think that I'm so excited what Netflix is doing with matchmaking and making it a trend. And so many different shows are now coming online about matchmaking, which is more intense dating instead of just hot abs on a beach.

Look, we all love watching hot abs on a beach, but we also want to know how to get into relationships, how to be successful in relationships. So in terms of what we do, which is different, look, any good matchmakers with that way should be able to get you on a pretty good date. Here's the thing, if you're not ready for love, if you're not ready to embrace someone else because you're carrying baggage,

there's weight of a past relationship, there's trauma that you haven't dealt with, there are things about you that you ready to embrace someone else because you're carrying baggage, there's weight of a past relationship, there's trauma that you haven't dealt with. There are things about you that you need to work on. Even if that person's amazing, it will not work out. At Toccafile, you get both a matchmaker to find you love and a coach to get you ready for love. Once we find you the love, we maintain it as well. We're thinking about the entire beginning to end

of someone's relationship, hopefully never ends, but you know as someone who's married, and I'm also married, that relationship, everyone thinks the hardest part is finding love. It's not. It's staying in love with that person and making sure that it works long term. And that requires a coach.

And so we're normalizing this just like mental health. Yeah. Became normalized with COVID. Now is the time where we're talking about guys' relationships are really hard. Finding real love is really hard, but we can work together, we can share tips. And I think that's why I talk about so different. So, okay, let's talk about some people that we in our bravo world. Yes. Let's start out with Lala. Yes. Kent. Yeah.

She is good friend of mine. Yeah. She, you know, when she was with her ex, the father of a child, that was not her typical type. So now they're broken up and now we see on her show that she dated her original type, which is a little edgy, tattooy, younger, kind of sexy, whatever. Now she's like, you know, I just,

you know, is possibly on a journey to stab another child by herself, which is totally fine. And I don't think that's a bad idea. You have this infinite amount of time, as at least as a woman, if you want to carry your children, and you want your kids to be close to Nate.

So you maybe don't want to wait for the guy, you want to get your family, and then the guy comes later. But regardless of whether she has the second baby or not, who do you think, what would you suggest for her? Wow, so I don't know her personally, and I think that it's really important

to have a friend like you, Trimon. I think that when you're in the limelight, sometimes, I think you could be one of two ways. A lot of celebrity clients that we have, or friends that I know that are using matchmakers, there is something to be said for having another partner who's also in the limelight. If you're looking to get attention,

that's gonna get you max attention. That's also max pressure on your relationship and some sort of competition for love. In her prior relationship, they were in the same industry, but there was still some sort of competition. I think I would say in a way. It was kind of interesting because it was like, he was successful but behind the scenes.

And then she was very out there as a reality star. But then what was discovered later is I didn't know that originally he was like an actor kid. So I'm like, I think he really loved the limelight. And I think you loved being on the show with her. And then even when they did her podcast together, I'm like, I didn't understand why he was the co-host. Who's taking the lead on that show? Right. You think it would be her. Right. So it was like kind of an interesting thing. And so and oftentimes these housewives, like Ramona,

and people like that. Vicki and her ex also, they say they get a guy. And, uh. So I'm on a podcast and call it a day, right? But they get a guy and they, and the guy will say, oh, I've never watched the show. I didn't know who you were. Oh, isn't that great, you know,

he doesn't want to be part of it. But then they kind of need them to be part of it to help their career. And also, if you refuse to be on the show, but then they kind of need them to be part of it to help their career And also if you refuse to be on the show then we're gonna spend a lot less time together But then some of these people oh, yeah love the limelight, you know someone that I think has maintained being a good husband Supporting the wife, but isn't thirsty in that way is like Eddie tamers 10 Lisa Vatter pumpsom says, Ben. Exactly.

Those are two examples of they've played along. They've let their wife had their fights and whatever. They've also not been too much of a target of hate themselves from the women. But they're also not so into it that they're, you know, they'd be happy not to show up, but they're also not like so into it that they, they're, you know, they'd be happy not to show up but they show up enough to keep their, they keep their wife happy with the job.

Yeah, for sure. I look, I think, so I need to meet her. I need to know her. I need to see what makes her tick. And I think that for Lella, it's about getting a person that totally and with unconditionally supports you. Right.

Someone that's gonna love you from the bottom of their heart. Someone that's gonna jump into a car and push you out of the way. That's the kind of person that she needs. She lives a very public life. It's been very challenging for her. And I think that she probably needs a businessman, a lawyer, someone that's not in her industry.

I think she can have fun with people in entertainment. I think it could work, but I think that would be the exception. I like to see her date, a partner at a law firm, an amazing doctor, someone who doesn't really know what she does and is not mesmerized by the fact that she's on TV, but someone that just... Not mesmerized, but get a hood out of it. Yeah. I think it's cool.

I think it's fun. Look at my sexy wife. I'm precise. Oh, we're going to this thing great. Oh, you don't need me to go and you want to go with your girlfriend's cool. I think it's fun. Look at my sexy wife. Oh, we're going to this thing great. Oh, you don't need me to go and you wanna go with your girlfriend's great. That's what you need. Like someone that's not a weird jealous person

that's not, but it's like there when you need him but also totally fine not to go. And someone who's stable, someone who's not, you know, no substance is, I feel like she's, you know, she came from a world where she's sober. Yeah. She needs to just focus on herself, focus on her baby.

And if she wants to have another one, be supportive of that, there's so many great people in LA. They're hard to find. And that's why someone like Lala should be. I'll speak to her hopefully. Yeah, so what do we think about? Well, I heard that you had a conversation with Aaron and Abe, who are my good friends.

Okay, so Aaron is one of the new wives on Real Housewives of New York. Yes. The last episode that we saw they were celebrating their 10 year wedding anniversary with a vow renewal or to do their rouse in the first time. Fabulous gorgeous party, a lot of nice side tit on her lover tiny body. Yeah. One thing I said when I when I recapped it was I you know a lot of my friends have been married for a long time. I have never been, and I have friends who have money and throw parties.

I have never been to an anniversary party, a vary-newal party, ever accept when it's offered on a reality show. Mm-hmm. And I get why it's a great thing to do on a reality show. And what I did this show called After Lately and it was like a fake reality show that we did for Chelsea lately,

it was kind of in the vein of like Kerber and Thuseth. And after the first season, I think I suggested this as like a storyline. We were gonna have a vow renewal because I was like obsessed with housewives, my character was, you know, and me too. Like it was an extension of myself, like getting exaggerated version of myself. And I was so fucking excited because I'm like, I would never pay for this myself.

I would be way too embarrassed to have it. But if I'm going to do it for TV show, how great to like wear a new, to wear a ride stress again, all this stuff. Anyway, they ended up scrapping the idea. again, all this stuff. Anyway, they ended up scrapping the idea. But I've yet to have it. And I do kind of think it obviously been a curse with the housewives, except for the Vanderpumps, the only ones that have done it that have remained married and now for Aaron. And both of them appear to have very strong relationships so far. Like when Ramona did it, it seemed weird. It was 17 years in. It seemed very much like she needed something to plan, which I totally get. And that's a fun event. It's glamorous. It's fun. You get to dress cute. Let's why not celebrate your love. Why not have this

around you? Like I totally get it. Just do a fun anniversary party. Yeah. No one needs to do with our renewal. Yeah. But I do think, I do think now you were there. I was at the party. And so how long were the guests speech? Because that did seem pretty torturous. And it does seem really weird that you would ask someone, listen, it's one thing if we're going to celebrate this couple's love because she had cancer or whatever.

They got through something super traumatic. Yes. They, and people could attest to the fact that this is the strongest couple they know. This is amazing. I can't believe you made it 10 years after what you guys are went through. This one went to jail.

This one was in hospice. I don't know. Like, but I was kind of like two gorgeous people that have had a nice life. Yeah. That have three healthy, great kids. Yeah. I think you can definitely celebrate the fun,

but I was like, what are these speeches about? I heard they already have a very strong relationship, they really trust one another, but they're not the kind of parents they live. They go out, they have an ant, they'll go on vacation with each other, they love love, they love having fun. I think she's the most normal that I've ever interviewed, And I think they're the most normal. And I don't think

that this value renewal is going to be a curse at all. I just think it is sort of awkward to ask people to do speeches. Yes. So the speeches were yes. I think the speeches were relatively long. If I have to admit, I was one, I think one of the first people to get to this. I arrived punctually. Yeah. If you tell me together eight, I'm there at eight. Was there any food? Again, I didn't see the episode, so I don't know what the whole concept is. No, I'm asking you. You were there. Did you remember eating not a ton? Okay, because that was what one of the girls said that she was very hungry. She wanted to go to Neil Boob because she was starving. Yeah. What who was who said that? Uh, sorry. Of course she would say that. Yeah. Because she needs

to eat a lot of food, which is great, but then maybe eat before you come. You know what I mean? Like, if you know that, if you've had one bad experience, don't repeat it a second time. Right. But I don't know her very well. But anyways, I think that they had tons of great alcohol.

They have, Abe and Aaron have the best friends. They really come out. They really know how to celebrate. They really rally around them. There was some type of drama that happened during the speeches where they had to shift the cameras from the speeches back to the drama that was going on. But I think that was it.

I mean, there was- There wasn't that much drama. They were just talking about how long these speeches gonna be. But also, I heard, what did surprise me was when I walked through my husband, he's like, what are all these brands? I think- What was that? So, first of all, what are all these brands? I think. What was that?

So, first of all, if she got brands to pay for it, thank you, thank for being a smart person. Because we know now, anybody that's followed this or listens to my show and here's interviews, know that when you're on this show, they do not pay for your party, whether it's a one-year-old birthday or a bowel renewal. And I, and she's a savvy person that's been in a lot of businesses, I would be like, hey,

if I was going to do that, I'd be like, hey, you know, Belvedere vodka. Would you like to be featured or my friend has a vodka company? Can we get a couple cases? My friend has a wine company. We could get, and like, we'll make sure that, you know, it's featured on the show, you whatever. So I thought that was really smart, it's featured on the show, whatever. So I thought that was really smart. I did not hate on that at all.

And even if you are not on a TV show and you're able to do that because you have a social media or you have a podcast that you can shout out, go for it. People want this advertising. A couple cases of wine to be mentioned on a show is 100% worth it and does not make you look. But I think it takes time to get people to get to that point. Right. But I feel like, I feel like, Eriden Abe came strong. They did their homework.

They came prepared. They knew what the assignment was. They knew that the show would probably cost them a lot of money in the short term. Absolutely. You're getting your glam. You're getting your gifts. They get paid nothing at the beginning. And so how do you make this design that's worthwhile? And the whole thing is utilize it for your

businesses. And she's got her hand in a lot of different businesses besides real estate. Well, she was supposed to also be our designer or run of in our kitchen. And she also run of eight homes. Yeah, she's a great business. So, okay, so I love that. Let's talk about some guys. So Josh Flad from Millionautilistink is my friend. He is somewhat newly divorced, so we already got involved in a serious relationship, which is now over with. Is it who said that just to be clear?

He told me that. Is that not true? No, it is. I mean, that's what I heard too, but I wasn't sure who was public. No, he broke, he and Bobby broke up, they got divorced, and then he was dating somebody else. I think it was someone serious. I'd dinner with them and stuff, but it was

the first relationship out of a marriage. Yes. So now I understand him to be single. Yes. And who do we think, what do we think for him? Yeah, so I know him also. So I met him like 15 years ago and I was living in LA. Edith, his grandmother and my aunt were on a committee together and some Jewish organization.

So when he was nerdy self on the first season of the show was when I met him. So I think, look, he is, he loves love. Yeah. He wants to get married again. And I think that he tends to not look very closely at the values that someone has, and he looks maybe for superficial things initially. And I think a lot of us do, right? A lot of us are, wow, you're good looking. I want to go in a date with you, sort of like a dating app. And I think that Josh may not be the best picker. And I think that's okay.

I think a lot of us can be coached into learning how to pick better or giving people that you would not think would be your type a chance. And so, my hope is that Josh seeks the advice of a matchmaker. I've been providing some advice to him. And really starts going on great dates and having great experiences.

And look, it doesn't always have to be a dinner or a lunch. It could be doing a fun activity. I think oftentimes we get in our heads about learning as much as we can and doing an interview on a date and then it feels horrible. And you never wanna go on a second date.

Well, instead of that, go rock climbing. You know, go hike run-in, go do something, maybe for Josh, go do a house tour. Take this guy on a date to one of your homes and tell him why you love these different rooms and show him one of your passion projects or show him one of your vintage cars or take him on a tour of your amazing closet and all your cool vintage clothing.

But I think that sometimes, you get in a head like that, right? I like that, you know, but I'm like, no, I don't, sometimes those things seem very reality show. But it is true. Like, let's go rock climbing. But I definitely think a hike, I definitely't, sometimes those things seem very reality show. But it is true. Like, let's go rock climbing. But I definitely think a hike, I definitely think like maybe...

Maybe Ronyan's hard, right? 45 minutes. I actually think also just like, hey, it's if, you know, do you like farmer's markets? Let's tool around, but then let's go to a nice lunch. Yeah. But let's kind of tool around just because it sparks conversation of like, I don't even know what this vegetable is.

How would you make it? I don't even know what this vegetable is, how would you make it? I don't know, just like a little more, like a warrior just walking around a little bit, like, you know, window shopping type of stuff, I do think you get to know people like that a little bit better. Now, I, I do think with him, you know, I think he's great looking and I think he's so funny.

And I do think he's got a great heart yes he's somewhat identifies as an elderly jewish woman his soul which i love a rich older woman and that's why he's bf s with candy i get it i love that so for him so you know but he also still has a young side yes i don't want people to think that he even though he's so old, Hollywood, old Beverly Hills, which gets him all his best clients, like, you know,

so you got to find the right balance. And opposite's attract, but I also kind of believe in, I do believe in the one of the original matchmaking side, and I never did it, but it always seemed like this one, it was the e-harmony. Where that guy really believed that actually, the more you have in common, as far as like morals, what you want in life, what you like to do with your free time,

I mean, I do think it would be really hard if I married a super granola camping guy that hates going to fancy hotels, doesn't like luxury, thinks I'm a snob. No, I don't think we should get married. Like, it's fine. You know, there's, it's fine that like we go skiing and he's a much better skier than I am,

and that's fine. I can go on the bunny runs. They can scale out. We can still meet for lunch. We can still have a wonderful time. You know, like, I still think you can do these things and not be forced to do something you don't want to do, you know. I think Josh is also a wonderful time. You know, like, I still think you can do these things and not be forced to do something you don't wanna do, you know. I think Josh is also a nurturer.

He wants to take care of a person. And he wants to be the provider of a person. But then when you speak to him, he says, well, I want this other person to have passions in their life and have their own thing going. And we, I want, so he says the right things, right? He's saying the kind of person that he wants, but he's selecting people that don't represent the kind of person that he wants, but he's selecting

people that don't represent the type of people that he says he wants. And I think that he should listen to his head to get on the date. And once he's on the date, open up his heart. And then also, so Ramona. Yes. Singer. She's got a boyfriend. Oh, I don't know. Who's your boyfriend? She's got a boyfriend that everyone says is very nice and normal, has money, age appropriate, but she's very like protective because when she came on my show and the legacy wasn't going to happen, but she did the girls trip. She was like, you know what? She's like, you know what? I was really, it's been a really hard time. You know, guys don't want to date. Wait, since it's very died. I'm not gonna lie.

I said, Mario, sorry, I forgot who died. You know, Mario broke up. Okay, yeah, yeah. Let me start again. So you guys, it's been really hard. You know, like Mario and I, like we're friendly, we raise Avril, okay? Update is some really great guys.

You know, it's really hard, because like people that want to be in the spotlight. And I totally agree with that, agree with that, especially when you're dealing with the fact that she's on the show that's ridiculous. But the people who are social circles and the people she wants to date are one percenters. 100%, 100%.

And they don't want to be on these shows. They don't want their wealth exposed. They don't want to show off their boat. They're so wealthy, they don't wear labels, they don't like, so I think she's being very protective of that relationship and I think it's a blessing that the legacy didn't go for her. But you know what I think that we should,

because we keep talking about all these bravo people that are single and it feels like 50% of them are very single. I feel like maybe we need to just do a show and find them love because Lou Ann is a great catch. Sonia Morgan, a great catch. So many of these women have so much to offer, but they go.

I think Sonia is a bit of a mess, I'll be honest. You know what? For daughters, phenomenal. All their kids are great. Phenomenal. I just met Victoria, who that's Lou Ann's daughter. Okay. She's an artist. Yeah she's beautiful in person. Yeah, and

she's you know doing very well and then so is her son. Yeah very good looking and a full blown artist like selling art pieces like real artists and but Luan Luan I think is such a great catch because she's very capable. Like she can cook, she can drive a boat. She can sing. She can sing, she can fix shit. Whatever.

She can do a lot even though she's the counter. She's kind of like not really snobby, not like, you know, because she comes from such like capable means. Now, Sonia is hilarious and goofy, but I feel like if you had to find them both somebody, I think Sonya would be more of a challenge unless you're going for like a younger, thirsty, fun guy.

I don't think she's gonna get another age appropriate, like, you know, or like even if someone, age appropriate, I mean, even if it's like, late 40s to 60, okay? Like I don't think, I think it would be hard to find that guy for her because she is so messy. I will take on that challenge. Okay.

I think that- But she's beautiful and she's funny. I've spoken with her daughter, who now lives in LA. Yeah. And her daughter is phenomenal. And I think that everyone wants her to see her with a supportive, amazing guy, who lets her be her, you know, eccentric self.

That is so neat. Do you think? But do you think, if the camera, I do think there is something I call, because like reality show Tourette's, okay, where I feel that sometimes they've been doing it for so long. And for some of these people, if you do the math, it's like literally a fourth of their

life has been in front of the camera. For sure. And for some it's coming close on half. And you're like, I can't blame them for acting crazy when the cameras aren't around. And now essentially, cameras are always around because everyone has a phone. So whether she's spreading her legs and showing her, you know, posts or whatever, someone's filming it, you know, and it's like, and it's funny and they're filming it because they love her

and we're not like bagging on her. But you kind of wonder, like, would she ever be able to retreat to just a regular life and like want to make dinner for a man or have him make dinner for her. Like have that without the world watching because it becomes such a thing, you know? Look, I think that she has a public persona that is all of those things.

And I'm not gonna say that's why we love her. I think we love her because she also really cares. She's also very charitable. I mean, she does a lot of amazing good work in New York City and like all over the world. She totally has a big heart. And then one of the reasons I liked crappy lake and I told you in this too is I thought they were like a good match to do even other things together.

Yeah. Because with people that have been watching the shows for as long as I have, some stars you're like that you don't like them anymore, you liked them and you're like, ooh they really are a hypocrite or they really are an awful person. The two of them never in the history of being on TV, they had funny, silly moments, they had arguments with people,

but none of them ever acted in like a mean malicious manipulative, I got you, I'm gonna hold this negative truth and throw it in your face, you can really, they've had that done to them, but they've never done it to anybody. So like, their hearts are pure. And like, that's why I think they have longevity

in doing other things, whether it's non-housewives or other things, and why I think that they will find love again if they want it. But as a bravo fan, if you not want to see 12 episodes and like one, every episode is two or three of your favorite brother, people actually not just going on dates. We've seen those shows before. No, absolutely.

The problem is these people, generally speaking, we think that they're so cookie on camera. Most of them, the ones that I've met and the ones that I'm friends with are like that in the real world. So they are a personality type that are very eccentric over the top and every single way and maybe rough around the edges, harder to be in a relationship, not the kind of average person, right?

Yeah, and I hung out with them too and they are what you say. They are what you say. Yeah, it's not an act. Yeah, and they're good level. Which is why they're successful at doing what they're doing. Because some of these people come on these shows and they've studied it and they're, or they get to a place where they do have to bring it to stay on the show.

I feel like, you know, some of these people that are really like all-star reality stars don't have to do that, you know? No, no, no. But I want to see that show. I want to see that show where we not just send them out on amazing dates because look again, we can find great people for these.

If they're not ready, so let's talk to to Sonia figure out why you act the way you act in these situations is that really who you are is it exaggerated for the cameras what truly are looking for a relationship are you harboring cuz she feels so much like a morgan right. She is a morgan well i think she her story is very interesting that i feel like she's never really like sat down and been really frank about it. You know the fact that she came from a nice house, but she was like at Dorenda said, you were the hostess with the most sick. She was like a young girl working in fashion and she was a hostess at a fancy restaurant, like a lot of 20-somethings or whatever does and she met successful guys and she wanted to meet successful guys and she fell in love with this guy that was like 35 years older than she has the daughter

and I think why she cries about it is I think she took advantage of the situation thinking that he would always be around and I think she was advantage of the situation thinking that he would always be around. And I think she was having such a great time having fun. And this is just all the stories of her. So I'm kind of writing it in my head. I think she was having fun, not necessarily cheating or anything, but not being a ten of wife. And she went off and galloping on yachts and things thinking he's fine.

He has, you know, the housekeeper and whoever, and I'm doing this for a week and we're fine. And what wasn't fine is that her friend went and started giving him attention and then they broke up. And I think she really kind of like a scatable. A little scatable. Yeah. And I think so she has because a daughter was involved. Are you saying that her best friend? Slopper has heard from all the rumem, what it's something she knew, maybe not a best friend. Somebody she knew and then he ended up being with that woman.

And it was very final and it wasn't a nice divorce and he wasn't friendly with her after. And because he was so rich and everything, the other thing is when you marry someone that comes from multiple, multiple wealth, there's trust, there's trust. So homes are in trust and things. It's not like if my husband and I broke up,

everything we came together, we both came from nothing. We both, the house is in both our names, we both contributed to the mortgage. That's why you're not getting divorced. Yeah. But I'm saying, but also, I think sometimes people marry someone really wealthy, thinking that they're gonna make, even with a prenup, they think they're gonna,

they're living in a $20 million house, well guess what when you hit divorce you're not walking away with 10 right that is in the trust and they and his income is a hundred thousand a year and like there's all these things for sure. So I think she did fine being divorced from him but it wasn't the life that she was living had she stayed married with him with all the connections and all that stuff. And I think there's times as much as she really has made the most with this whole other career and people lover. There's times when she's vulnerable and probably a little buzz on camera where she's like, you know,

this wasn't supposed to be my life, Derinda too, even though Derinda was a widow. Like this wasn't supposed to be my life. I was supposed to be this society person going on four different fabulous tropsy. She can still be. I think like the persona that we're seeing is I'm a Morgan, I'm a Morgan, I'm a Morgan. That's great, but who is Sonya?

We know Sonya Morgan who you are on TV, but I think that she needs to figure out who she is as a woman, as a mother, and what she wants, because for her to be so connected to her husband and his legacy and his family's legacy means that she's at a bit out of an identity loss. And so it's hard for her to get into real serious relationships because if she doesn't know who she is, how is she going to be successful in a loving, caring relationship? So she needs coaching. I think a lot of these people need coaching. So doing some kind of a matchmaking show without the coaching misses the whole point where

if you're not ready for love, if you're not really wanting to understand why you're not in a relationship and work on some of those things, it won't be successful. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, Andy Coney, are you listening? Yeah, what do you want for Andy Cullen? Right, so okay. The thing is, he is an ultimate executive producer.

He's to has an amazing career. He's made the careers of so many people, but he likes control. And so for him to be successful in a relationship, he needs to take a beat and let someone else also have some control, planning a date, where to go, what to do, who to see. Now, maybe you know, because you're in the dating world, you're also a gay married man. He has never, and that I know of, had any significant relationship in the last 20 years or has he that I don't know about. I think from what I know, I mean, listen, we know he gets gay. We know he gets guys.

John Arthur Hill. John Arthur Hill. He's like his now like platonic best friend, co-host, whatever. Yeah. So they had something. But since that guy, which by the way, and I think it was so smart that he, you know, came a father when he did, wasn't waiting for partner,

didn't share it with somebody that, that you could have a horrible custody battle, like our friend, Jeff Lewis has had. So I think with women too, like I think that is all good. Like do your thing. I think it's a smart thing to do. You have you want to be a parent at a certain age range, right? But I'm yeah, I would love. I mean, I would love to see him with somebody more long term. But I do think it's still a crazy life. I think he's getting out of the crazy life of like

having a late-night show, having guys, I'm sure, throw themselves at him. That's the big problem. So, you know, we can resist anything but temptation. Right. And when you're in that position, when you're a football player at your prime, when you're a professional athlete at your prime, every woman wants you, throws themselves at you. When you're a famous celebrity, this is what happens. This is what happens. This is what's happening and has happened to him. And I was thinking like the last 20 years. I mean, I don't think there's a more popular gay guy that has power that gay guys,

I mean, not only will gay guys love the shows you've been associated with, you're fun, you're cute. And that's why I think you need to go into the total opposite direction. He can't be with anyone entertainment. I don't think that's going to be much harder for him. Yeah. I think getting someone that loves what he's built, you know, you have to take a step back and understand that these are people.

They are going to live and they're going to die and they're going to maybe have kids, but they're regular people who also have emotions and really just want to be in relationships. I really would love to see him in a long-term community relationship if that's what he wants. You know, we all start, we're kind of living this world. Yeah, not everybody does too either. I believe that he does. I believe that he does from the people that I know know him very well. He does want that. I think he's scared of commitment. I think especially once the kids are you in past a little bit of the baby stage like once they're like at school And you have a bit of a breather and you have a bit of a routine. Yes. I think you would probably really enjoy to have someone

Have dinner with them every night or whatever. Yeah Look and who knows you know what what a long-term relationship looks like for everyone Especially if you're in the LGBTQ community, it looks different. You know, you could be polyamorous. You could be in a committed relationship. You could be in an open relationship or anything in between. So, what about Kyle? Is Kyle a lesbian?

Did she just have a little... That's a nice pivot. Did she just have a little fun for a minute? Did she and Marisa have more of a open-sweeting relationship throughout the years and we're a little more open sexually to things. Maybe they enjoyed three sons, maybe this wasn't the first girl she got with,

or maybe it was all an act. And like I said before, she just stole a storyline from Selling Sunset. And you know, and just did it for fun. And also really adores this girl Morgan and has a financial interest in her career which she does. And I think, you know, and we have clients come through the door, we say we want, you know, a lot of people are coming through, they've been in relationships, it hasn't worked out, they've been on these apps, I've been on some dates,

but they basically feel bad about their experiences. And oftentimes they come with a view of scarcity. Like, there's no one one gonna be for me. I have very low self worth or no one's gonna find me attractive at my age or I have kids or I don't have a lot of money, so who's gonna want me? And we don't think about the world in terms of abundance. And a lot of people would find me attractive

because I have these ten amazing qualities who wouldn't wanna be with someone like me. I'm a great mom. I have great family relationships. I have a great stable job. And so what we do at our companies, we try to reeducate a person and to say, look, you're an amazing person.

Let's tell you what your accomplishments are. Because sometimes when someone else tells you how great you are, you start to internalize and becomes your new narrative. Right. And then that helps you out when you go on dates because you realize you're worth. If you don't think you're worth it, it's gonna be very hard to be in a loving

and caring relationship. Yeah. A lot of. So the coaching part is really key. Yeah, absolutely. And you don't see that really on television. Yeah. Well, I thoroughly enjoyed talking to you.

Tell everybody where they can follow you and find all your stuff. Yeah, so if you go to talkify.com or talkify on Instagram, you can find the company. Adam Cohen-Azladi, CO-HN-A-S-L-A-T-E-I is my Instagram handle. I'm certified, verified, what have you. So you'll come find me there. I'm sure a lot of dating and relationship tips

and hopefully some of your favorite Bravo Lebs will be working with us soon. Yes, I love it. Well, I hope they listen and take my advice though I know nothing. Yes, and if they let us film it, I would totally film it. But right now we're under the radar.

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