Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Exes Dating Exes and The Italian Curse with Tammy Pescatelli

Episode Date: December 7, 2023

Comedian Tammy Pescatelli is back! First, we reminisce on our humble beginnings in stand-up, and a missed opportunity in the Funny Ladies Playboy spread. Former GMA hosts Amy Robach and TJ Holmeshad an on-air affair...and now their ex-spouses are dating! RHSLC Monica’s affair was with a sexy fire chief. Alexis Bellino is dating Shannon Beador’s ex. I think we may finally understand Teresa and Joey from RHONJ. Then, Tammy lets us in on what makes Italian-American families tick. And to wrap it up, we share how we snagged our husbands, and why strippers and comics have so much in common. Enjoy! Shop Juicy Scoop Merch https://juicyscoopshop.com Get EXTRA Juicy on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop Follow Me on Social Media Instagram: https://www/instagram.com/heathermcdonald TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Follow Kate https://www.katecasey.com  Go to https://theouai.com for 15% off sitewide when you enter promo code JUICY. Download the DraftKings Casino app NOW and sign up with promo code JUICYSCOOP and play FIVE DOLLARS to get ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS IN CASINO CREDITS! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It's been a long time. Because, of course, you don't live in California, so it's hard for us to get together. But we do have a lot of fun. Tammy Paschatelli, welcome back to Juicy Scoop. Thank you, my friend, it's been a long time. Because of course, you don't live in California, so it's hard for us to get together. But we do talk on the phone. We do talk on the phone, but I do like coming to the studio because I get here just enough to see the growth

and I'm so proud of your empire that you're building. I mean, literally, you were the person who was like, I'm not gonna let these people stop me. Come over, we're were the person who was like, I'm not going to let these people stop me. Come over, we're doing the show in the bedroom. Then you're like, I have this little bungalow. Now we're in this high rise. You're moving on up, George Jefferson. I love it. I love it. Under the first of many presents, this season with holidays on the house from Draft King's Casino with hundreds of games, prizes and promos. DraftKingsCasino

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wait, what I always say, save it for the past. Stop talking. But we were talking about, you know, certain shows. And I've talked a little bit about this that, you know, I can't get on the, you know, the view with the talk or whatever it is. And I don't know why. But I'm very curious.

And if someone can tell me why, I won't even be hurt or mad. I just wanna know because now in this podcasting world and stuff, I know that all of a sudden, a fan could tell a housewife or a podcaster, Heather McDonnell said this about you on a show. And the person never bothers to go listen themselves. It's left to their interpretation, which I don't know if you're on a show. And the person never bothers to go listen themselves. It's left to their interpretation,

which I don't know if you're on a fifth grade reading level. You might be a genius. I don't know, but it's up to you to figure it out. Or the fan is lying and misconstruing it to hurt you. And then hurt the both of you because they realized by inserting themselves and giving you and misinformation that now you're now longer gonna be friends.

And so I don't, sometimes when I think, well, you know, so you, so you were like, what do you think it is? I'm like, I don't know why some exec won't have me on a show. I could have flipped my hair in their face accidentally in 1995 and an elevator. And it could literally be that little like that's how Hollywood works. It's really, if you're in a position, a little position of power, whether it's booking someone or the EP or whatever, you can squash any guest, any guest star, any acting choice, whatever,

it could come down to just the one person. Well, it's the truth. I mean, and yet, it does seem that it's just for women of our generation of comedy, because the men have been naked in the streets with guns and they get re-booked and put on big movie posters and everything else naked in the street. That was Martin Lawrence.

But you know, I was never on Chelsea lately because the girl who was a booker, even though I was always nice to Chelsea when I would see her at the store, she probably doesn't remember me at all now. But I remember there was a girl who was a booker that Chelsea brought from Denver, and I had, like I have hypoglycemia,

if you don't get me something to eat, I'm not like Si from Real Housewives of New York. Like I, it's not because I'm hungry, it's because I'm gonna pass out and you're not gonna get anything out of me for like a day and a half. I'm more like Julia Roberts and pretty well or what it was at Cushion, it's gonna kill me. You know what I mean when she's when with they are now. No, when they're all in their steel magnolia. So I'm more like his. I like

her. Just drink your juice. So drink your juice. Okay mama. drinker juice. I'm a drinker juice. I'm a drinker juice. I'm a drinker juice. I'm a drinker juice. I'm a drinker juice. I'm a drinker juice. I'm a drinker juice. I'm a drinker juice. I'm a drinker juice. I'm a drinker juice.

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Because it's going to work. No, really have to know more. Nobody wants to. Nobody wants to. And the morning TV shows anymore, I just talked about it with Chris Franjola. And the morning TV shows were like, good, we don't really want you anyway. Like it was not, no one was selling tickets off of it.

But anyway, so you had to do 6am. Yeah, I mean, it was crazy. And don't forget, I came in from LA, got it, blah, blah, blah, whatever. And I was, I was literally about to have an episode. Yeah. And I was like, I'm hungry. And the goal goes, well, after the next one.

And then you keep going after the next one. And then finally, I was like, I'm hungry. And the girl goes, well, after the next one, and then she kept going after the next one. And then finally, I was like, pull over. I have to get something neat. I didn't, and I explained it. I said, I'm, you know, this is going on. I'm happy with what I see. And I'm like literally eating it, like a little squirrel with nuts.

Cut to, I find out that she's in charge, like why she hasn't charged the booking? Well, I couldn't get on the show that? Wasn't in charge of the booking. Well, I couldn't get on the show. She wasn't in charge of the booking, but she was very high up as far as being right in the mix of things. So she definitely could have shared an unflattering story. That could have been, forget it.

And I didn't mean anything by it, but I think I heard, you know, that's when I really learned though, because I'm allowed Italian. I'm more of a man than I am a woman. Like I'm a broad, you know, and I didn't know how to gently say part of me, but I have that, you know, I was like pull over because, you know, I didn't realize that people were so sensitive towards now. Now there's a whole generation.

You have to be very careful. If you correct them on anything, they spit in your coffee. But also with the way social media is, is anyone can do a TikTok about, okay, let me tell you about the time I had to take Tammy Prescatelli to radio in Buffalo. Yeah. And then it doesn't matter.

And even I just saw in interview a clip of a small interview with this young kid. It's like a, it's the dark side of comedy. And it's a small clip of an upcoming episode and he's talking about Ellen. And he was this young kid that I guess she kind of picked up from obscurity, whatever. And she was going to like make him a stand up or I don't know what dance make him do something and then he's like and when it didn't work out you know

my mom and I never heard from from Ellen again and thank god some of the comments are like that's how showbiz works and that's's how things work. Did you think that she was going to be your best friend? And go to your web app? Like, was she going to like, get a baby Bjorn and carry you around? Yeah, like what, what, I mean, listen, I know she doesn't have a great wrap or whatever, but it does come to a point where it's like, anyone now can just say a story and it's like, yeah, you know, have you always been pleasant? I was talking to Joshua on the phone and I go, I don't know what else anybody has on me, but you know, like I've joked, maybe I didn't have eye contact with someone in an elevator and then people wrote, am I supposed to have eye contact with someone in an elevator?

I'm like, well, if I don't, someone's going to do a tick talk about it. So you better believe I'm like, hi, how are you? And then it would have been creepy. And then what I had eye contact with someone at a Sephora, they did put it in the comments. They were like, she looked at me in the eye, hoping that someone would recognize her. I'm like, oh my God, I can't.

So anyway, Josh was like, there is someone at American Airlines, is many, many years ago. I think it's still Haunsen to this day where he was very frustrated with the customer service. And so I'm like, so you're saying there's someone at American Airlines that could emerge and ruin your life? He's like, yes, even though I called the next day, tried to find the person to apologize.

I know that there is someone at American Airlines that I'm not pleased with how I spoke to, and I'm like, so everyone thinks we have it so easy as stars, but I'm sure if you're just sitting at your home, you've had the pleasure of being annoyed with customer service, that not having it possibly haunt you and get you canceled. Yeah, that's why I think I'm not,

don't have the career that I always thought I wanted to have because God is protecting me from my evil doings. I mean, I'll never forget there was a time that I, I was getting, I was on a flight home to Cleveland from Cleveland originally. I'm getting my luggage in this man helped me with my luggage and he goes, I said, oh, thank you so much. And he goes, oh, you're nice today. And I said, what do you mean?

And he said, well, I was on a flight with you once. I just seen you on this, this is, I saw you in Dennis Miller. And I said, what do you mean? And he said, well, I was on a flight with you once. I just seen you on this. I saw you in Dennis Miller. That's how long ago I was. I know who I am. OK. I'm lucky that I still have a career, let alone who cares what level it is.

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on the way to do the show. So I literally, and what a great gentleman, Dennis was, Dennis allowed the car to take me home, get my stuff and catch a red eye to get it. So I was trying not to cry in public because my grandfather had died that day. So, but if he wouldn't have told me specifically that and then I was like, yeah, okay,

I guess people do have these things in their head because they have an interaction with you. And you're allowed to be human. Right, and you don't know what that person, what call they just got, who was going on in their life and all that kind of stuff. And part of our thing as a standup is, yeah, you could be like, and I'll fight with your husband

having seen something awful. And then you have to be like Our father aren't having a holiday that can you come there will be done? Hi everybody. Hi, let's do it. Welcome to So great to be here. Tell the funny stories about your funny life and like you have to do it. You can't be like You know and I'm blessed to do it because guess what it might be the last time someone laughs So you don't know what's going on in people's lives. Like I have to remind myself, when all these people look,

I've been around for a long time. I'm an OG. We are the generation of women that made it, we suffered all the indignities and the sexual harassment and me staying in condos with convicted rapists for comedy condos to work. And you're not complaining because you're afraid you're not gonna work.

And I get that I don't have as many followers and things like that, but I also remember that what you do can't be quantified. Laughter is only quantified in Hollywood. Sitting in the rest of the country, those people who show up in laugh, they just want to laugh. So it might be the last time that they get a chance to laugh. We don't know what's going on in people's lives. So it's wonderful to be able to do that.

But I have to talk myself through it a lot. Other people, I mean. Well, let's get into some juicy topics. Okay. Okay. So TJ Holmes and Amy Robock, they had the scandal, they both married, had an affair, both got fired, and then I said, when are they going to get their podcast? Of course, they got their podcast together, and they're on the red carpet at the eye

heart Christmas thing. And you know what I just, I just did a photo. I just screened grab this one on the red carpet because when I do the red carpet, and there's only been a few times like my husband's been with me most of the time, he's like, who cares, you know? Because then they're like, okay, could you get the guy out of the photo, whatever.

But when I see two people on the red carpet together, I think they must plan, we're gonna do, we're gonna giggle and do sweet nothing. Yeah, that's nice. Yeah, there's no way that when- It's spontaneous. I think they must plan we're gonna do we're gonna giggle and do sweet nothing. There's no way that when spontaneous that you had all the whole ride over here and you know and as you're getting ready to tell the funny stories and everything and you're gonna save it for when you're on the red carpet to be like to be like she's going there there's someone's in there. What? Oh, okay. Ah. Because they have a whole branding that they have to we,

yeah, America doesn't love this right now. Okay. Well, it's getting juicier. So according to their opening episode, which is good, they've talked about the affair. I have not heard it. But I do think that's the way you start off a long different podcast.

Hello Rachel. This part was said, I don't think he was suicidal, but at one point I guess you couldn't get a hold of him or something and she was afraid. The firing was so bad and so detrimental to TJ Holmes. She was worried that he had killed himself after the Good Morning America firing. So she worried about that. I made the fact that he had lost his family. That shows you how she's thinking career,

this man lost his family, she didn't care about her family, she only cared about her job. That's what she was talking about. Well, now I don't know because I don't want to talk too much about something we haven't heard. Right, we're doing what we're talking about. We're looking at a tea. It might be very compelling and we might very sympathetic.

But also today, the juiciest of scoops allegedly, okay, this is an exclusive from page six. So maybe it's not an alleged. This is the happy anyone in see coming. The ex spouses of the scandalous news couple, TJ Holmes and Amy Robock have gotten closer. Page six has exclusively learned that Marilee, his, uh, TJ's wife, and Andrew Shoe, married to Amy, are dating according to multiple sources. I hope so. I hope they ride it all the way to the bank because these two, uh, TJ and Amy, they have to stick together now.

They have no choice. They don't want to, they'll have to wait and quietly fade away. They have at least a two-year contract. With each other. That's it. Or with I-Hart, probably. Or with, or, but, yes, just for themselves, they know it.

Somebody sat them down from PR, from crisis PR, and said, hey, you guys are going to stay together at least two years, so it looks like it's real. You can't look like your home record, and then show up in people's homes every day. It's just not gonna happen. So they're not showing up in people's homes. They're showing up in people's ears.

Well, but it's still their homes. And I mean, I'm sure the goal is to make the podcast a huge success. They should have called the homes a record. Have a great chemistry, have a great following. And then they launch it to a TV because they have TV experience obviously. Yes.

But no one was gonna give them that TV show after the scandal, but you're right. If they can make this work, and it's super successful for a year or so, I wouldn't be surprised if then they did return to TV. And you know what, listen. But right, they'd have to say together. It's not, everybody's got that I will never be

the conscious on coupling type, okay? Like that's just not gonna happen. You're gonna hear me scream and then people gonna have a lot of stories to talk about God forbid my husband ever wanted to leave. But yeah, so if they wanna do it that way and however it works for them and I hope Andrew and for me I lay with Andrew and Mary. Yeah, yeah, I'm like my well of course it always reminds me of um looks like we made it

Shanae Twain. Yes, it does Shanae Twain. It's the classic story She and her husband were married for a long time, but which is why she wrote the song, looks like we made it because she was like, gonna show you guys all we made it, well, they did make it because he was making it with her best friend who was also her assistant. They got together and then she and the best friend,

slash assistants, husband, they got together and I believe both couples are still together with each other. Are they still, I think, Mutt is still with the other one, but I don't know what if Shania is. Oh. He was cuter though. Who the assistant man?

Yeah, the assistant's man was cuter. Then, then, then, then, then, then, then the original. What a last name. All of, that was his first name. Oh really, that's awful. Yeah. Holy German, there was some kind of like like it might have been short for Helmut.

Also big switcheroo in the OC. Real housewives of OC, Shannon Bedore. Divorce from David Bedore was dating John Jansen. And she talked all about him on the show. And she said he's the love of her life and she's like, when I fight with John, it is devastating. We have normal fights that paralyze me

and they're like, well, it doesn't look like a normal fight if you're paralyzed. But she said, I've never loved someone like this and they, you know, break up. And what happened was, of of course because they were so crazy that you can't have an argument with someone. When are people going to wake up if you can't just have a discussion or an argument with someone and that person has to become apoplectic?

Who's going to stay with you? That's a Sutton move right there. That's a very Sutton from Beverly Hills. Yeah. So they were dating, you know, it was always like, we're on off friends, whatever. Then she, this is all, you know, allegedly was talking crap about Alexis, Alexis, uh, Balino, who used to be on Real Housewives of OC. She was talking crap about her

who happened to be at the same restaurant she was at. She then took an Uber home and then realized, as she got out of the Uber, she didn't have her phone. This is all what I've heard. And so she didn't have her phone. I'm assuming to call another Uber to go get it back at the... Okay, that makes sense. So she then got in her car to go back to the restaurant.

And that is when she hit someone's home with her car. No one was hurt. And did the fake car. And then parked and then the car stopped running. And then she got out of the car and was walking the dog. And then the police came and then the car stopped running and then she got out of the car and was walking the dog and then the police came and then they realized that she was intoxicated and she got into UI. So now people are wondering was that rumor for talking about Alexis Blino?

Did have a thing to do with that she suspected that Alexis Blino and John Jansen were more than friends or acquaintances. Shortly after that, they were seen at the quiet woman in a group setting, but they were seeing me next to each other. And now people has confirmed they are, in fact, dating. And I don't know if it's confirmed that Alexis Bellino is coming back to the show, but Tamara, who was best friends with Shannon, then not best friends with her when she was on the show, then became best friends again.

And then Tamara, Vicki and Shannon did the Trace Amigos comedy show. Yes. At the Irvine improv and at the Tempe improv where they wore mariachi outfits and, you know, saying the song that you saw the video. I saw. We are here to whoop it up. It's what we got. We're the trace of me.

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But now, Tamara said, when I was at the variety thing last week for real estate showed women, she said on the red carpet, I'm not speaking to Shannon. And she also took a photo with Alexis Belino. Okay. So now Tamara is hanging out with Alexis Belino. Shannon feels like, oh my gosh. And, you know, there was, and Alexis's ex-husband,

Jim Belino sued Shannon, and myself. Which I cannot talk about the results of that. Okay. But that is a fact. Well, if you were right, down I'll talk about it. Well, no. That is a fact. It is all over.

Okay. It is all settled over. I remember that. Sorry, that's right. But not that Alexis had something to do with it, because they were going through divorce at the time. That's a great fault, right. But not that Alexis had something to do with it, so they were going through divorce at the time. That's a great fault, right? But I mean, this is gonna get people watching Real House

with Vosey. I know I won't be missing an episode. Yeah. But my God, or is camera realizing that doing gigs that improvs across the country is not what it's cracked up to be. And she was like, I have no fun.

Do I get out of the trace of Vegas tour with Vicki? And also when you split it, I was like, okay, we know what we make on the road, right? Even if they sell out VIP and merch. You've got three people and then you've got another guy coming to interview them, then you have hair and makeup, which we do our own, but they don't. And and hotel flights, let me tell you something, criticism, because it makes sense to go.

Okay. Yeah. You could only do a run once a year. Anytime else you have to get on a plane with multiple people, it is not a huge money maker. And so I think it was a lot of things. I think maybe people let Teddy in. I heard that too. You wouldn't let Teddy come. And that means you get obscurity. Yeah, your own security.

Cause the improv has their own security, but you got a special note have security. Yeah, your own security, because the improv has their own security, but you gotta have special note eddy security. Yes. So, and you can hire from Teddy's housebinds company security. You gotta find another, so they're gonna gouge you. So that's a lot of money.

They get a lot over it. There's a lot of work. So maybe, cameras just like, look, I don't even care. I just wanna get out of the trace. I don't know the truth. I have no insight. I'm watching this as I see it, but Then I heard from somebody else who said I heard from Alexis myself now. This is a

DM doesn't mean it's true That this is blown out of proportion and it's not a serious thing. Here's what I'll say. It's not a serious relation between her and John Well, here's what I know this This is because I love your explanation. Caught me completely up. And I know enough about the Bravo universe to catch it up. But no one is a roube anymore. When I first did, I did one of the first reality TV shows last comic standing where we had to live in the house.

And I watched it like, yay, at the beginning. And then by the time the editing and we were into the finals, I was live in the house. And I watched it like yay at the beginning. And then by the time the editing and we were into the finals, I was hiding in my house with the curtains pulled and no lights on, because I didn't know what kind of edit I was gonna get. These people are so savvy. They know that sitting next to each other

is either a statement or a storyline. So none of this is by accident. This is either either it's real where there's smoke, there's fire or it's a real for the TV show. Well what's interesting is one thing Shana Bedore constantly said in the season was she was so upset that Heather DeBro and the other women were talking about her relationship and she was like, well, you know what? Now that you've talked about it, it's done. It's not just taking off her mic. It's done. John Janssen's gonna break up with me.

My life's over, but it's fine. It's fine. My life is over, my relationship is over. It's fine, it's fine, it's fine. And the women, like Emily and stuff, were like, you spread the rumors about yourself. You talked about it to every single one of us late at night.

And so you put it out there. And then what, we're not supposed to talk to each other. When you've, like, have you ever had a friend that's like, do not tell a soul, do not tell a soul? And you don't tell a soul. And it's real juicy shit. And then like six months later, you're sitting and you realize that she had told all three of you

the same thing. And you're like, we could have been fucking talking about this. Like, what? I, like, we missed have been fucking talking about this. Like, what? I like, we missed out on all of this. We could have analyzed and discussed it. Basically, that's what happened. And they're like, this is the reality show.

And whether you tell us laid out night on the phone or whatever, it's out there. And we did, we did discuss it, but you discussed it. You shared all this stuff, laid night on the phones. And don't remember what you're saying because whatever reason. And so, but she goes, but he's a very private person.

He's very private person. That's what she'd say on the show. But then what would be frustrating is that Heather Dubrow, I remember, would say, well, she told me that he loves the limelight. He loves being on TV. And I don't think that's a negative thing. I think if you're a reality star and you find a guy

like a Louis who's with Teresa, he's very comfortable. He likes it. It doesn't mean he doesn't love her. It means that she found a good match that's gonna go to the shit with her and be there with Bells on. It doesn't mean it's a bad thing.

It just doesn't mean she doesn't wear red because then you won't be able to find Louis. He's gone. And I don't care what you say. You can write me, you don't. You can't, listen, as beautiful as Teresa, she can't find someone to powder him. I mean, could Christ.

Well, I think that, I think it's hard to find a guy that's willing to do this stuff. And so, but I think that there hard to find a guy that's willing to do this stuff. But I think there's another theory. She's a beautiful girl, she's very attractive. And she has a nice personality. She has a nice personality. And I'm sure they get along and met whatever. And so it could be a real thing or if she is,

now she had a engagement after her divorce. She had an engagement with a guy for a number of years. Okay. She was with him and then engaged. They broke up just recently. And they went on below deck together and stuff. So she no longer is married and she no longer has the fiance. Okay.

And I don't know what his finances were, but she's single. And she meets John Janssen at Harry Dubin of the fiance. Okay. And I don't know what his finances were, but she's single. And she meets John Janssen and Harry Dubin of the OC. Exactly. Okay. Or the Slade smiley or whatever, the gesture year, but now Slade's been with Gretchen for 10 years or whatever. But, you know, does she, is she savvy enough to see him have a little conversation with him and flirt and go, I wonder if this could be more because knowing it doesn't take a genius to realize, if I start dating, Shannon Bedore's ex-boyfriend, and they're even remotely thinking about bringing back which they were.

Yeah. I am back in even if this is a short-lived thing. I'm back. Even if it ended tomorrow and they start filming three weeks later, there's gonna be so much shit that they can talk about that happened in the two weeks of them dating that will fill up the months of juicy conversations at Nobu.

Oh, for sure. And look, I mean, I think that if, let's just pretend that he does like the limelight, but maybe Shanna was saying, I don't want to talk about it because she wasn't sure if he really liked her for her. Right.

Maybe she thought he was using her for the limelight and then now he's with Alexis, but Alexis is gorgeous too. Yeah. So who knows? I mean, I love when these, there's nobody else in these towns. I mean when they kept bringing a hairy Dubin they keep bringing this guy. There's nobody else the southern charm people. They keep sleeping with each other.

There's nobody else left. You're not on an island. This is not like This is like I think it is the ship people in maybe Well, I think that is kind of the thing with, you know, with the Vanderpump rules. It was like, I felt that Raquel, Rachel Raquel, and I can't remember what was her original name. No, Rachel, and we knew her as Raquel, but she's back to Rachel.

Okay, so we'll call Rachel, but when Raquel, but even before she landed on Tom Sanneval, after she broke up with DJ James Kennedy, it just sounds like she parachuteed out of a thing and just fell on a stick. Like she just literally, I just picture a whole little thing which is like goofy glasses. She got a parachute, first she floated over towards Peter the manager. Then she floated over. She's got a guy. And she floated

over to her garsell son. Right. Oh, God. And then she went, she's got those. Remember those Gucci sunglasses they gave her in the tent. And that was so. And then she just got down and she now she's, she's on top of town. But I kind of was like, now she's only pursuing people that have a mic pack on. So, yeah. So, you see, this happens. I stop. Yeah.

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Why don't you tell? Full disclosure on French Margaret. I love her. I love her. What she's, I love her too. Stands for her. I like her a lot too. I love her line.

I love her relationship with her husband, her mother. She's just a good person. If you called Margaret and said, I'd know where to stay, she would find a place for you to stay. I know Melissa because of Joe Gorgah. Joe was doing stand up and I got a call about sitting and writing with Joe and we tried and we did a couple shows together and Joe does his own thing and Joe was fully Joey on stage.

He's Joey Gorgah. And, you know, he just really, I think he's a great guy. I think there are good couple. I just think that he comes at things. I know a million, if you grew up in a Italian neighborhood or if you grew up around a town, there's a million Joey Gorgas who just want to be, they just want to have fun.

They just want to all love eat. He wants to show off his hot wife. You know what I mean? I mean, that's it. It's like typical. Yeah, I mean, I used to know Jacqueline. I used to know I did a show with the Caroline Manzo. I did for but I don't I don't know any of the new ones. The young ones I love. They're so cute. They're feisty. Do you do you think

Do you do you think that there's any help for Teresa and Joe Gorka to make a bends? No, not right now, not as long as Luis in the picture. Just from, you know, and I don't know that from him. I just, in my, as a Sicilian, there are people that they don't talk to for decades. We are huge at not speaking. I'll never forget my grandfather died and my mother stood in the doorway between the kitchen and the living room between his brother and sister, my great aunt and my great uncle

because they weren't speaking. So but she didn't want to offend either one so she stood in the middle so she could give them both equality. We're a culture that is crazy based on respect and disrespect. And once you feel so disrespected, and I think that having Melissa in the mix really probably through Teresa off, we come from a culture that you were, you know, like the only fans you're never going to see.

Any of these broads on the only fans, at least none of the OGs, you know, the older ones. Yeah. Because we come from, you know, a lady in the streets and a freak in a sheat. You can be whatever you want, but they're not gonna do, they're not gonna do like Leah McSweeney with her. Oh, I have a photo of her.

Hold on. Her bunghole hanging out. Wait, here we go. This is her, this is her page. I love it from the back. Liam McSweeney just remind you guys she was on Real Housewives of New York for two seasons. She participated in the reality reckoning, a variety article that went nowhere. And so then she joined Only Fans and bragged about how she made more in one week on only fans than she did on real housewives.

And I don't mean to be a bitch, but that's actually nothing to brag about. Because the people I know, the people that we hear about that make a lot on only fans, it's not worth bragging about unless you make over a hundred thousand. Your kids backpack right there. You know all that money you're going to have to save for therapy. That's it. That's our kids backpack right there. You know all that money. You're gonna have to save for therapy That's it. That's our kids backpack right there. So listen I there's a lot of young like I love. I think the Liam McSweeney story her life story

Is pretty depressing. She's not gonna like me saying this, but hopefully she does listen to juices go because you know, so she struggled with drugs with alcohol. Yeah. She got something happened where somehow she was drunk or arrested. Anyway, she fell. She sued NYPD. And she got enough money to start the married to the mob sweatshirt. Cute clothes. Yeah. I mean listen, before anybody else is doing it. Okay fine, she got that. She has a daughter who seems like a delight. And then she gets on the show. And she's like, I was sober all these years, but now I'm gonna drink. So we see her drunk for the first season. Then she's like, now I'm sober, and I'm converting from Catholicism to Judaism.

And just to, I think just to piss off the mom, but whatever she goes to be, and then she thinks that she's suing Bravo or whatever about, she's suing for the American Disabilities Act. She's saying that they, this is all my understanding and I am not saying everything I say is factual, so relax. But that, what I remember reading is that she's suing saying

because she was bipolar, they didn't act properly. What, that's the stance the attorneys are taking. Meanwhile, she joins OnlyFans and she says, I made more. Yeah. Now, my understanding is when you're in the first couple years of housewives, you don't make a lot.

Maybe 6,000 in episode. So she made $6,000 in a week. I know that is a lot to the average American, but that is not your killing on onlyFans in New York anyway. But it's not your killing on on only chance. You're not. And I don't know. Listen, I would like her to win as a person. But I just think this photo, like I cannot believe

that this is what she posted. What's bizarre to me is that? That's for $15. Yeah, I don't know. Is it really her? Does anybody know that? Because you know what, I don't know. This, I her? Does anybody know that? Cause, you know what? I don't know this. I did see this around. It could happen. You know what? Let me know. I know she joined only fans.

If this was mocked up, I will do a correction on Tuesday. Only because right now I don't know the background out to at least make that. Listen, there's I saw the several places. So I kind of would be surprised. I was gorgeous. She's a beautiful girl. She had a great personality. And she's like, this is empowering to me. So, so good. You know what, you're right. And she's probably like, I'd rather do this. I'm not going to get on another reality show. And I don't want to, what other job can I get that can make this if I've been banned from reality TV. But I do feel like is that all there is just being a reality show or only fans?

Like there's no other skills. I remember trying to do as a woman. You and I both, we probably were there at the same time. I used to go over to the Playboy Mansion on Sundays to do the movies and the stuff. We would do the pool in the day and movies at not. Right. And I could go to some of the parties. It was fun. And half a few, listen, they changed the trampolines.

They pulled them out of there because of me because I'm the one who really fell off the trampoline. You did? Well, I got dropped kick by one of the, the, thes, because she didn't like what I said during a show. Wait, go back and tell the story. That's a real story. I used to react really, but. I'd like to hear it. He, they used to come to the comedy store all the time.

And he, half in the girls. Half in the girls. And then he had a big goal fouting. And he wanted me to be the, the advisor for it. Okay. So we all did a show. And then, only a few of us could go back to the party.

It was one of the the first times that I really practically was this. So I used to go before it was a comic in 2000 and like 2000, 2001, but when I fell off the trampoline, it was before I ever did any tonight show or anything. So I'd say it was 2003. Okay. And I got drunk and When I get drunk, I that's why I don't drink because I call myself Terry Pasquatelli. I don't know who I am I'm like a crazy person and I But I said this I'm a tough product. I'm an athlete's daughter. I'm with grew up with all boys So I'm like competitive like Like, okay, let's do back flips, let's do gymnastics. I was a cheerleader. Let's do this. And this girl apparently didn't like

one of the things because I used to talk about in my act class and dignity. And they had offered me funny women of playboy and then like the 90s. Remember that. I remember being in my parents bedroom like the 90s. Remember that. I remember being in my parents' bedroom because I think my dad always had a subscription and seeing funny one of Callie and who was the show? It was Felicia Michaels. It was Margaret Cho. It was who did Madonna date allegedly.

Oh, yes. Oh my gosh. She's great actress. Sandra Borenhardt. Yeah. I don't remember who else. No, there's great actress. Sandra Borenhardt. Yeah. I don't remember who else. No, there was Rhonda.

Rhonda, sheer. Rhonda Sheer. So, they had offered. I don't think it was Margaret Cho. I think it was. I feel like this was a little bit of a little older than Margaret. Margaret's like my age. I don't, I do not think it was Margaret Cho.

No way. It was 1995. I'll tell you this. Okay, there's 1995. There's no way it was Margaret Cho. Okay. So It was 1995, I'll tell you this. Okay, there's at 1995, there's no way it was Margaret Cho. Okay, so well. But all those other names, I believe you're correct. I definitely remember Rhonda Shear.

It was 19, this was, here's what I know, Mike from, okay. For me, 1995, I get a call saying they're interested in you. Now, I've been doing comedy professionally one year. Okay. One year. I left the radio station. I'm like, they offered me $25,000. I

hadn't even made $25,000 the year before being a full-time comic. But I'm a good Catholic girl. I have my father was there, my brothers. I thought, how would they react? My brothers playing college football, theirs, their sister and beyond that, in my brain. Now, this is where the difference lies. This is why I probably don't have a better career. I kept thinking, I don't want anybody to think I got ahead by showing my tits. Like, I didn't, a lot of young women now

are so smart with it. Like, they always make a man feel like they're on the precipice of a blowjob and then it moved things further, you know? But I didn't want that. I wanted people to just see me on my merit. What a dummy. I should have really just, plus it would be nice to have the pictures of that body.

Cause I had real 34 fulls cup sea that was, I mean, I still had this nose, let's not pretend pretend but that was my whole joke like if I had plastic surgery Don't you think I'd have my nose fixed first. I wish I would have had that body Well, I remember seeing that magazine. I just really remember Rhonda Who then went on she was a stand-up, but that she went on to make a ton of money like on QVC Yeah, tell me I should I did one show with her in Vegas. If we had to wear, it was a pajama jammy jammy jammy jammy jam. Yes, I remember that. And I wouldn't, I would wear like big old,

Farty pajamas, you know, the kind like you wear with the hot cocoa and, yes, she was trying to do the sexy, funny thing. Yeah. But I remember seeing that and I, you know, at, now I was 25. If it was around then or maybe this one. Maybe right, yeah. And I was like, I thought it was great and I was like, oh my God, I think I would do this.

Because I want to say they weren't totally naked. Were they completely naked? I, everything for me to get to 25 grand, you had to be completely naked. Okay. And it just didn't, I didn't, I just literally, it didn't. There was a big difference when I grew up that we slut-shamed a lot. Like it just wasn't what it was.

I know what it was. We just didn't even say the word slutting now. You just say sex positive. Yeah, you could feel happy. We did. Guy, the football team, and it would be like, you know what, she is so sex positive. How great that she's only a river giant at.

But in our day, you are a bit old slut. And you could do it. You just had to be quiet about it. You couldn't tell anybody. You're just, you could do it on the slide. So I didn't do it, but then he just, I don't know if he kept wanting. I think he was just fascinated by no, okay?

And then, you know, I think that sometimes when you're funny and you're confident, I've always known him like, you're back to the trampolines, so that I'm saying. So he would have me be at these parties. So I'm at the party and have really liked me, but not in that way. Not in a sexual way.

Right, I'm not blonde, I'm not, but you've got to kick out of me. Right, like a lot of that. Like a dad. Yeah, like he would, all the old, you know, when he had all those James Cameron there. James Conn over and to help him. Do she, could you believe this one's a, with tits like that,

she's a comic and I just go, you know what I mean? Like, hi, my dad loves you. So she got mad because I used to do these jokes about like, just because you get your, it's old. Just because you get your, it's old. Just cause you get your boobs on doesn't mean you have to show everybody. And then you're gonna cry when you can't find a good man. You're gonna be like, I can't find a good man.

And the joke was yeah, cause you're a whore. Again, 2000, like, we're back then, those times. And I guess I upset her. And she, I was like, hey, look at me. And Alan or Karrigan was there from the comedy story. And now she's, I'm like, hey, look at me. And Eleanor Carrigan was there from the comedy story. And now she's, I'm like, hey, look at me. And this girl comes and drop kicks me, right? And how do you drop it?

She's kicked you. I'm like flying, well, Linda, like right into me, like in a WWE. And I went flying off and rolled down the hill. And it was by where the peacocks were and right and I was drunk. You have to remember I'm also drunk. Yeah. And I'm stuck in the mud.

I'm 25. I'm like, I think I'm and no, at that time I'm not 25. At that time I'm 32. The 25 was when they offered me that. So I I rolled really well. But then I couldn't walk for three days and then the joke was you can talk about class and self-respect and dignity all you want. But when you can't walk after going to a party

the playboy mansion for three days, nobody believes it as anything to do with an unfortunate trampoline accident. So good. So good. Yeah, but then they pulled the trampoline. It's all my fault because he was afraid I was going to assume. I still have the card from the flowers he sent me. And it said, you're your classy broad hope. Interesting. And then it was about a trampoline fear of being sued

about trampolines. That's all that. Well, it all goes back to real house. As I both see, there's a whole people might people know I'm talking about. I'm not even mentioning it. Looking at it has to do with this a little bit. There's so much history here. Okay, well. Okay, so anyway, I love hearing the Italian thing, because when Melissa, Joe and Theresa riff of the wedding and all that stuff, we would talk about it. And I have, through marriage,

new of an East Coast Italian family. And I'm like, is this an East Coast Italian way of dealing with stuff that is different than the Irish way? Different. And I feel like, different than the Jewish way, different than that, like, you know what I mean? Culturally, different than the Mexican way.

Like, and I think that's what's so interesting about America, but I also think families deal with stuff differently. They deal with a dysfunction differently. Yes. And you know, look, I feel like you should, I should almost stop it. Like they do football tape when it's playing and go, okay, pause. You see right here, this is when she walks in the room

and she doesn't make eye contact, or she did make it and she just did like this and then you're like, oh my god, you gave me a look like that. That's why Dolores keeps her mouth shut. That's why a lot of people were saying Dolores is boring. That's because she doesn't know what to say because she's such a good friend to everybody probably. And she's such a good Italian. And she doesn't want to tell anybody's business and there are probably stories that would curl your toes that we can't, that we don't know.

You know what I mean? I might know a couple, but that literally you just can't, you can't say, you know what I mean? And the other thing, let's remind everybody that Louis has been number two, Louis, he's not Italian. He's not Italian. He's not Italian. So I mean, he is interpretation of thing, you know what, he's not Italian. He's not Italian. He's not Italian. So I mean, he is interpretation of thing.

You know what, he's coming from a different angle too. Yeah, he's doing the block. He's blocking, he's doing that block off. Do you ever see that big rapper, Nardo, whose security punched out a 14 year old kid? No, but. Yeah, because he just came up for an autograph. That's what Louis do.

And Louis blocking people and creating problems. I also think that there's a huge dynamic between sister and law is in an Italian family. What is that dynamic? Well, I think Teresa being an original sister, like my brother, I mean, I talk about him, I act now, my brother, Tadu Tadu, he's been married four or five times.

There's constantly drama. If there was a reality show at our house with him in it with his wives, it literally, I would seem like the craziest person in the world because it's the conversation that he tells them. He tells them all the resentment of all the years and all the stuff.

So I think that the, I think, I think, I think a Theresa was like the queen and she didn't tell her parents she did anything wrong. Everything was Theresa, Theresa, Theresa. And then Joe probably, you know, he's the little brother and this beautiful girl comes in and I mean, God bless you know, I look, she treats this beautiful. But her hairline was not where it is now. When she first came on, she looked like she'd just come off the boat from Italy. Like when they used to laugh, and my cousins would come from Italy, we used to have to Americanize them.

Everybody had to get waxed and shaved and pressed out. That's how it worked originally. Now they're beautiful in the fashion and everything comes from there first. But I think there was just constant look. I mean, instead of, we didn't also remember that's the thing. Like, I love, I love page disorbow and Hannah, they're giggly squad and all that stuff because that's a culture they're learning to embrace each other and and lift women up. Look, Heather, we're friends, but we chose to be friends. I guarantee you, there were gigs that you and I both don't know that it was either gonna be me or you.

That's how it was. We were not allowed to be friends with other women. Our generation was a constant competition. I think it was all, I think it would be one of us. I've said that too. Yeah. If there was a lineup at the comedy store or the improv, there's 10 comics of the night,

there's going to be seven white guys, one or two black guys, and one woman. And that's it. That was the demographic every night. Right, so it would be very rare that there'd be even two women on the build the night. So one thing that made sense was when some people would start to just produce their own shows, like pretty funny women with Lisa Sunstead and start doing stuff like that, because at

least we could all be on the show together. You know, and you get a spot. They never put you on the road. On the road never, never you get a spot. They never put you on the road on the road never never never never never it was always I was the only girl three you know a headliner feature at MC and whatever you know I worked my way all the way up but it was always just one woman on the guy's ready for a lady ready for woman. I used to hate that I school crazy. The other thing is that you have to have a little bit of an ego to be in this industry or in reality or whatever. And that's not how women were trained to be.

Like especially coming, look at our generation, like your mother, my mother, they might have had great personalities, but they weren't like shoving front runner people. They have a thing culturally too about Italians versus like Irish Americans or whatever, is the gift giving, is something that we did not experience in my family. You're saying that because I just gave you some gifts. She did just give me a gift. She shows up with two gifts, a bracelet that says trust.

And earrings. Well, the earrings, the gift, but the gift, the gift giving is lovely. And it's also can be scrutinized if, if it's not good enough, like for coming to Christening's and parties and weddings and like I saw from this Italian side of the family, a lot of discussion and nitpicking and kind of shit talking if the gift was not a part. I'm gonna send you.

I found some of my grandmother's diaries which were completely boring. However, she did have every dollar, everyone had ever given my father, me or my brother. She must have got it from my mother. So I'd be like, Aunt, Aunt Murrath, Gave, Gave, Gave $20 for the fifth birthday. Gave $40 for the fifth birthday. So she could give the exact amount back to those kids. Yeah, to whoever was a nut. And then so she could count that she had given, you know, a certain amount of money to all of the weddings,

and they better at least match it, and they better cover their play. It's a culture that I love, and I love every aspect of it, but I had to deprogram myself. I literally had to go to therapy to remove, oops, sorry to hit this. I had to remove, look at it, literally had to go to therapy to remove, sorry to hit this. I had to remove, look it,

because that's God trying to build my microphone. But I also think that is why the Real Housewives audience is fascinated and confused, because I think the answer to me, my opinion, the answer is in the culture. The answer is in the culture between why they have their issues. In my opinion.

And then of course, exasperated by fame, you have the culture and then you have Let's Be Famous and Jealousy and looks and all of that along with it and on reality TV, to me, to live for an infamy. And when you do go back to those old episodes,

you're like, what, you do CC differently as a viewer too. So I just find it, I find it fascinating. Well, it is fascinating. Because every Italian, basically, who has ever been on reality TV has been investigated. basically, who has ever been on reality TV has been investigated. What some got in trouble, Theresa, Mike's situation, the gravonos on mob lives. But look at even me, do you know that I literally, since I spoke my truth about people lifting my material that I've been audited every year for seven years, that's almost illegal. They do it one more year, I can sue the government.

Are you serious? They've not found one problem, but ever since I spoke out against, like it just so it, I think that there's a tendency that people were not. Because you spoke out because people are lifting material your material, lifting meaning taking your job, stealing your job, whether it was, whether it was on purpose or not, it just got to a certain point, but also Cosby tried to sue me too. That was Bill Cosby did. Oh, yeah, because I brought him into the whole thing because I said,

at least he knocked his victims out first. Again, that was way before me too. And and was this before he was even before he was prosecuted? So I got a decent decision. So you said that before, what's this before? Who's the guy that got going? Before. Right about the same time as

that guy, this is my friend. Well, this is my friend. Search for the T. No. No, it's an H. You're right. Hannibal. Hannibal. Hannibal. Hannibal did it a set or it was his show. Probably the same time. And that's when he was like, and we're just going to all like to act

like this and happen. And that went viral in the stain age clip of it that someone took from the audience. And that is what truly got him reinvestigated and everything, and everybody coming forward and everybody talking about it. And right in the middle of it, they were very litigious to the fact that, you know, look, I don't have Jell-O-Pop. I'm doing this podcast about crime and comedy, and I won't even cover it because I'm like, I don't have Jell-O-Putting money.

I can't afford to say the wrong thing. I should probably shut up right now if I had any brains in my head. I'd probably just shut up. Well, I think at this point, you're saying fact now. It's all been proven that he has drugged women. So he was convicted of that. So now you can say, but when you were saying it,

it was proven. And that's why they were trying to shut you up. When they say the streets talk, they talk, and they usually tell the truth. Right? It's not anything new. Things like, when something comes out in the world, like, for example, all this ditty stuff,

we're not gonna talk about it because I don't get you or me in trouble. But that's not anything new. I mean, I have it here, but I was like, it's just so dark and awful. But just all this stuff is new. All this stuff, like when you watch these shows, and that, you know, Bethany's trying to talk about the reality tricks they've been doing that,

when we had last comic standing, and it was a boating show, don't forget, we lived in a house, and then they were supposed to vote for us. They created scenes, they let talk about three women. I was the bitch. Kathleen Madigan was the odd ball and they made Bonnie McFarland seem like she was a whore, which she wasn't, but she should brilliant. And that, but that was the position for women on reality TV back then, if you remember, the seven guys who were all what they were, who we love, those guys. But they were cut, there was a scene with me that looked like I was plotting

against somebody. And if you look at it, I have two different outfit on. Like, here's me like in this. And I'm saying, wait, you on the first season, second, we had 18 million viewers. It blew up. Wait, who was, I don't want to cry, but I had 320 my space followers. Who was your through 20,000? Who was your winner? John Haffron, very funny. Okay, Gary Gorman. The year before was the Vietnamese guy that won.

Dat fan, right? Yeah. But, you know, they did a lot of things. Reality has been the executives at NBC turn their backs on us on the upfronts because they didn't believe in the reality, the scripted division. They turned their backs.

They don't want to talk to us. You know, when we started talking early in the show, I went to tell you this. There was this thing that I did at the groundings where these two guys were going to do a pilot presentation of a sitcom that they wrote. And they're like, can you play the girl that works at the Hardwood store or whatever? And I'm like, sure, thinking, if this gets picked up, I'll be able to get the one.

So anyway, so they have all these executives come to see like this read through or whatever, not a read through, see it acted out of these two weird guys that work at a hardware store. And we all think it goes great. We practiced and did it. Now we got laughs and all these suits are there. And after it's over, and I go, well, that one really well, don't you think? And they're like, it's dead.

So we're gonna happen. And I go, why? And they were like, we looked out the two guys who were like the main company growlings as this time I was in the Sunday show which is like the B team. And there was an executive there. That was trying to get into the Sunday show. And the main people voted on which people from level four we get into Sunday show.

And they didn't vote them in. And he was very pissed and weird and vocal and angry about it to the point where like he made a stink. And now he is the decision maker. Yeah. And they were right, but nowhere. And that's why I say how I could just be one person where it's like, yeah, you don't even like I'm sure.

I want to get you back now. I have death by paper cuts. That's the name of my new book that I'm writing. Cause it's, I mean, I once put a drink down on what, I was at NBC doing a development deal. And I put my drink down like this on what I thought was a coaster, but it was in the guy was like, ah, and it was like this antique, this piece of this fossil

that he had kicked up and, and I'm like, okay, guess that meeting's over. We're done. There's a million stories I can tell you why. And then there's probably a million more why not. That's why it's hard when I love the reality stuff. I really do. But when they're complaining and they're trying to do this reckoning and stuff,

you came to the table with your personality. You didn't come with the talent. So sometimes the personalities don't show and they had to do tweaks to get it out. I do think that some of it's ridiculous. You don't, you know, you don't apply people with alcohol. But then again, you know you're going to be on TV, so don't drink the alcohol. Yeah. You know, I know that I literally one time on a third show Saturday called myself Terry Pescatelli. Thanks for coming.

I'm Terry Pescatelli. I never drink at Go On Stage again. Okay. My name is Tammy, by the way, people. Oh, really? Yeah. So good for you. Okay.

A little follow up on the Michael Orr. This is from the blind side. I've talked about this. You know the movie from the blind side, how they, there was a bass drum real story in the two ways. Adopt, we thought they adopted him. He went to Mississippi, he became an NFL player.

And now he's come forward and he was suing and saying, you didn't really adopt me and I didn't get my fair share of the movie. The two of you came back and said, you along with our two kids and ourselves, we each got the exact same amount, 138,000 for the movie. That's it.

You know, that's what we agreed to. That's what's the life right. No, but you know, you sign this thing and you don't know it's going to be Oscars and this and that. That's what they got. So then they so he's saying all this awful stuff about them a couple of months ago, you know, that they didn't care and that they did this conservative conservatorship. And they said, well, that's because he was over 18. You can't adapt an adult. Yeah, he was over 18 when he was playing football

in the high school. And then, you know, well, this is, well, the movie was not, it was based on a true story. So if it showed him, you know, it didn't have to be completely real. Like, so people wanted to do that. It's smarter. So now it comes out that

the twoies are showing text messages in which he threatened them and said, give me $10 million right now or I'm going to go to the press and say all this stuff about you and it's going to look horrible. And they still were like, you know, whatever. And then he said, now that you didn't respond. Michael, Michael. I got a gun in my purse, Michael. I have lunch with the president of the PTA, the ARA, and the AARP. That's what she said.

Is that one from the movie? I don't remember what she said. You know, something like that. Yeah, she was like. Oh, we should got out there. The district attorney. And she taught it on a play football. And of course, then we find out no, he knew how to play football before.

He was already playing there. Okay, fine. Who cares? That's the movie. Anyway, he then says now that you didn't get back to me. Now it's going to be 15 million. Yeah, that's extortion. So I think we get the picture now.

I mean, yeah, like so, um, I don't know where all his money went. People think that this could be caused from CTE, which is the brain injury that happens to football players sometimes. And maybe that is why he's acting this way. I think he could have run out of money. I think, I think you could be a lot of things. It's just really sad.

Because we love the story and I truly believe these families exist and they do treat these children that they did not get birth to as their own. And they still said we still love him. We still want to make up with him. But because this lawsuit now is here, we've got to share the evidence of him trying to to extort us.

And they immediately when he first came out with it, they weren't even going to cancel Sandra Bullock. They were like, and I know what is important. Sarah Bullock that all came out a week after her partner died of L.S. Wait. And when she won the Academy Award for the blind side was about a week after when Jesse James was cheating on him with multiple porn stories. So she was like all of it was just all crazy. Yeah, for the, it's, it's, it was just so sad because now you like, have you ever looked back at things in your life I have and there's been some like ties were unfortunately, there

was this amazing thing happening in my career that may never happen again and at the same time an awful thing was happening personally. And it bums out that they were happening at the same time. Because I'm like, fuck, you know, that overshadowed that great thing that may never happen. And that's exactly what happened to her. Well, that's what's her like being a talent. And by the way, that's what it's like being a talent

because you can never focus on the good. Okay, that's now you've just explained. That's the problem right there. That's the challenge. Yes, that's right there. So, but yeah, no, that's exactly with with them. I think the other thing that kind of bums me out with this whole story is that it reminds me, again, I talk about my brother and everything. People think that you're on television and that you literally have a tree in your backyard that you're picking money off of. So true.

They never count your bills. They only count your checks. They don't understand what it takes to maintain that you have an agent, a manager, attorneys figure things out. You have travel, you have this, the government takes this, because I pay all my taxes and it's all completely correct. But they'd never think about that. They only think the money. And it's sad that even he didn't really wasn't fully present to understand.

Now do I think that they probably, the husband and wife could have given it their $138,000 combined to him? They could have, but their $138,000 combined to him. They could have, but not $10 million. But also at the time, he was making millions of dollars. Millions of dollars in NFL player. So like, I think they're like, this is fine. Well, I give them that and be like, that's what you want, take it

because we really don't even wanna be part of this story anymore, you can have it. But the truth is, is that look, like where does he think 10 million, that movie didn't make $10 million that went to them. Right, that's what they didn't go to them. They sold their life story and their life likeness. Yeah.

It's the studio that made all that money. And yeah, like they didn't profit, like they were already wealthy. They already had their food franchises and stuff. Which is great. So they were like, I love that the story is so, you know, inspiring and there you guys are going to make a movie out of it great.

They probably didn't negotiate hard enough for themselves because they didn't need the money. And also, they're not movie people. So they, the, what opportunity they got might have not known to put in the contract. And if it gets to this amount of millions, then they get an extra bonus. And you know, the way people do back in now. and the truth is that they're not sure that they got might have not known to put in the contract. And if it gets to this amount of millions, then they get an extra bonus.

And you know the way people do back in now. Yeah, and they not people don't always know that. They didn't know if Sandra Bullock was gonna play that. Right, it could have been on a lifetime. Right, it could have been on nowhere. It could have been on nowhere. Yeah, but it's true. Like they didn't know that we were such a hit.

You know, nobody does. It's heartbreaking. It's heartbreaking that people just count your money. And also because it was a beautiful story and these families do exist. You know, and I've talked about my really good friend who is a mom of two football players and she was very, not didn't like officially adopt them but had boys stay at

her house and worked with their moms and you know to make it a better environment for them to succeed in school. She was that person that's like they can live here and she kept to touch with them and they're she says my son and my grandchild. Yeah. All of that. So it's like, I don't want people to think that this can exist, because it can. And it's beautiful and it comes from really good hearts, and just because the people are white and wealthy does not mean that their heart wasn't in the right place. Just the fact that he made it to then FL,

he had to have a support system that really helped. I mean, that's what I always think that I see that Travis Kelsey's mom before Taylor. I just the story last year. Can you imagine being the mom whose sons are playing each other in the Super Bowl? I know. Like she has to have a Jersey cut in half and sewn together because she knows it's both her kids dreams, but only one of them is going to be the winner.

Like, that's got to be heartbreaking as a mother. I can relate because my son Drake, who's 21 or mother son, who's 17, he's almost 18, they were, we were playing pickleball and they were each took a cousin. Okay. So they were playing against each other and I literally said, wow.

Who do I pick? I know how it feels to be the Kelsey mama. Oh, you should, I did not know who to root for. I didn't know if I wanna go for the little one. See? Or the first born. Do I go for the air or the spare? Well, if the spare gets the fair haired, Taylor.

And I think, I think he went all the way around that point. So I know what it's like You have two boys in the Super Bowl. I didn't know I was talking to someone who had really lived this Oh, I mean I don't I just want to ask you so yeah, then how were you able to navigate post the pickleball? The extravaganza that was the pickle ball. Well, luckily we went to lunch after and once everyone was fed, no one cares or remembers because they're boys. So it's all good. They've recovered and they're not jealous or anything.

As long as food was part of the afternoon, I honestly don't even remember who won. I do. You called me and complained about, no, I'm just kidding. I know. Okay. I thought this was interesting. Cardi B and Offset, who I believe they're married, they definitely have two kids together.

And yesterday, they unfollowed each other and of course the fans figured out. And listen, if you're mad at somebody and you don't want wanna see them going out because you're taking a break from them, you can mute them by unfollowing is you want the fans to know that some shit has gone down and you are pissed. Yes, and you want them to turn on your husband, ex-friend, business partner, whatever. Yeah, but when you hit that unfollow button, it's like literally saying let the games begin.

Yes. It really is like, all right, let's see how this goes down. You want to cheat on me. Let's see how this shit works right now. See if you can handle it. Now, what I will say is again, that's generational. This generation unfollows each other. We follow each other.

You want to cheat on me. I'm going to follow you everywhere and find where you go and what you're doing. It's just, I, it's the adapting. In real life. Yeah, yeah. Switch cars with your best friend and buy a wig and drive past their uncle's house like we did everything. I think it's interesting.

These two have always fascinated me. She was really talk about reality show. I mean, she was on a love and hip-hop New York super dynamic personality, super dynamic personality. They barely, they didn't even show any of her musical stuff. Yeah, none of it. And so she was just destined to be a personality out there. So it's amazing to see the level that she's gone to. And that, and think, is- A lot of people don't pop like that from reality. I mean, probably there's only been a handful of people

that have really gone on and done something, her being the biggest for music, but Elizabeth Hasselbach. You know? She was probably the only, she came from survivor and she was regular on the view. Now she's done and over it, we, she came from survivor and she was a regular on the view. Now she's done and over it.

We don't hear from her. That's fine. But she definitely hit a level of success that she would have never gotten that, would have never been discovered had she knock on the survivor route. So it's like there, I do see why people do reality, and I don't think they shouldn't, because you definitely can emerge and do other things. Yeah. Well, she deaf. I mean, I think, Karate, I'm glad.

Again, I like to say that. I like to see her win. Elizabeth has a hassle back. I remember with her on Survivor because I watched it because she was just fading away. They had her on that show and she started out tiny. Yeah. I think if you're ever going to go on one of those shows where they put you on an island, you have to fat yourself up, eat, eat, eat, you have to show up like a, like

you can't even move. Like, yeah, but then you have to be in a bikini. So you want to look kind of good. So what? Then you get development deal, then you get all those deals because you got skinny people, you could be the spokesperson for, you know, yeah, ozampic stone. Come up with something like, well, did you take ozampic?

No, I just banged my head against the rock and I felt passed out. Didn't eat. I don't know what it is. Oh my God. Okay. This is juicy. Okay. Real housewives of Salt Lake City.

We've talked about Monica, Monica is the new girl who is in a lawsuit with Heather Gay, who's the owner of the beauty lab before she got on the show. She got some Botox and she did not pay her bill. Right. And then Heather Gay's company sued her. She had a different name. So when Heather, it wasn't even aware that this new girl that was on the show was the person that she was in this lawsuit with for $4,000. And once it became out, then she counter-sued and said that the Botox wasn't good, yet that Heather's people presented text messages

in which she wrote and said, I love my Botox, I never look better. I'm telling everybody go to the beauty lab. But what really got her hired was that she had an affair with her husband's Sisters husband brother-in-law that way. Yeah, okay, and they have found him and Here he is. He's hot. He's a hot

fire department chief. He's a Utah fire department chief and It from what I read and this is I think this is this is from the Sun it was revealed and Bravo snark and all these people picked up but what they revealed it what I read was I was thinking that he stayed married to the sister and I was like, this kind of sucks that this story is out. Because if they are gonna try to make this family work, I'm almost happy to hear that they didn't stay together. I think it makes Monica's story less awful, honestly. Because he, not that it was her fault, I just felt bad that if this couple

we're gonna forgive each other, if she was gonna forgive them for the affair and they're trying to stay together, and then the mistress, ex-ister-in-law goes on the show, we knew we would find him. We knew we would find her. But from what I read is no, that marriage ended as well. Well, I know that exact story in real life.

I know that, I mean, not them, but I know I had this friend, I'm gonna try to make sure that I say, she got very sick, she had brain cancer. Her sister-in-law came in, her brother's wife, to be the caregiver, okay? The sister-in-law and the husband of the sick woman had an affair. It blew the entire family up.

The two of them went off together for a little bit. It didn't work out. Eventually, the woman dies. It's just a big, it's a saddest story, but the hardest part was the parents, the parents of the brother and sister whose spouses cheated together, they don't know what to do. They still have to interact with the grandchildren. Both of their kids are miserable.

I mean, it's a horrible thing what they did. And both of them have kids that their exes have to deal with. So here we are just posting it right out. And by the way, is that one Monica got the Botox from Heather's gorgeous? She looks fantastic there. What? She does. I feel that's another. I mean, he's hot. People have affairs. It happened. They found him. I'm glad I'm not the one that found him. I wouldn't, I did, I don't want to search and find it. Hopefully the ex sister-in-law and his ex-wife has gone on to live a happy life and recovered from the fact that her husband cheated. Yeah, literally.

And hopefully Monica's ex-husband is living a knife thing. But I mean, it is fascinating that you cheat within your own family. And it's like also that the fact that you brought this, I just thought between her ex-husband and the fire chief's ex-wife, that brother sister, like it was like you, you know, like they're like, it was your wife, well it was your husband,

well it was your wife, well it was your husband, like I hope that their brother sister relationship can come back. If it was good before, I hope it could come back now that they're both divorced. Yeah. And be like, let's be real careful what we bring in and make sure that these people are not a shatter.

Yeah. We've got, no one, forget it. Thanks, we're never sharing off. We are never sharing a house together for a ski weekend. people are not attracted to each other. Yeah, no one forget it. Thanks. We're never sharing off. We are never sharing a house together for a ski weekend. No way. No, we are never going to the shore house. We are never getting in a houseboat.

We are never getting in anywhere that has a basement where the two of them could go down and get extra diet coaks and have a quickie. I can't live that life. I can't live. I have dated cheaters. I've had all that stuff in my life. But I can't live. My husband think that I love him. And I trust him as much as I'm going to trust him. But I can't live where I'm afraid to go to the bathroom.

Because I'm afraid that you guys are going to be going to eat you. I'm going to pee. You know what I mean? Like, I can't live that way. You can't sleep. I don't care how much your toes are curled. If you're pissed off, you're going to be like,

you're going to be like, you're going to be like, you're going to be like, you're going to be like, you're going to be like, you're going to be like, you're going to be like, you're going to be like, you're going to be like, you're going to be like, you're going to be like, you're going to be like, you're going to be like, you're going to be like, you're going to be like, you're going to be are gonna be fucking each other while I'm going pee. You know what I mean? I can't live that way. You can't sleep. I don't care how much your toes are curled. If your fists are bald up, it doesn't work. It just doesn't work. You got that.

That's a fun expression. I don't really understand it. Like if you're, you know how you're always nervous. Like if you're on your toes because you're in love and you're having a cruelly, which was from fucking. Yeah, it's sex. But if your fists are Oh, bold up.

Is that an old Italian thing? Or is that just being bold up? No, what you just said is that a Terry Paschatelli, a Terry Paschatelli. It's probably Terry Paschatelli. It's probably the drunken part of me. Am I ready to wreck out? No. Anyway, I just loved this.

Kaley Coco is Coco, Coco. How do you say it? Coco. Coco Coco. How do you say it? Coco. Coco. Coco, say you say it, says wearing faux bangs in 2013, Sag Awards, was the worst thing I've ever done. It's an exclusive by people. There's an amazing photo of her. And I just want to say, I don't think I've loved a woman more. Yeah. That has talked about a hair mistake from 10 years ago. And I too, it wasn't on the red carpet. But I will tell you my faux bang story.

I'd love to hear it. Okay. There was a kiosk in the mall. And this probably would have been, I remember, I remember the office I was in. I was at Chelsea lately, it was the original studio, so it had to be like before like 2012, okay, somewhere, so it's around this time. And I, you know, went and they had the fake ponies and all this and the bangs.

And, you know, I put it on and I was like, oh my god, it looks so like chic because I don't have bangs. I don't want to cut bangs because of this weird, like, side-cowl-like thing. So bangs, like, never really worked. Like, I could do like a side-bang, but it never really worked. So, I'm like, I think of J-O-M-E.

I think it looks really good. So I got it. By the way, that's not even real hair, probably. Right? Oh, no. It was like, you can't curl like this. It's a little curl. So, I, like, in my office, which my desk looked out and we always had the doors open. Like, we always had our doors open in these offices at Chelsea lately. And I decided to wear it on Monday to the office.

And I don't know if it was Tom or EP or Chelsea. I don't know which one's not first, but they told the other to say, something fucking died at Heather's head. You did check it out. I am, what's it? I don't know when to the writing's meetings, writers meeting or not,

but thank God I realized that day it's a mistake because Chelsea or Talver both called me out and I was like, all right, took them out and never warm again and never warm on the round table. Thank God, but I can see why people did it. And I want to know, have you found successful faux bangs 10 years later? Because obviously this was a mistake. Yeah. And it looks like a really bad way.

Well, at least they were fake because I once cut them in. And that's horrible. What made you do that? Watching Shana Dirty on 90210. It's all her fault, God bless her. I hope she's healthy. But I mean, it's all her fault. She looks so cute with those bangs.

They were straight across Brenda. They look so beautiful. And they grow up so. I remember Heather DeBrow of Real House, I suppose, the like was getting ready for the reunion and somebody doing her hair, talked her into the bags. So she comes out with the bangs and Andy's like, oh, okay, you have bangs You know, and she's like yes, you know and whatever and then Terry her husband

Comes out. We're gonna be the husband's out and that's the first time we see you're with the banks and he's like And we went we were I like, friendly with them at that point. And we like went out to dinner after that. And I go, okay, now the bangs are growing and she's looking and I go, it doesn't seem like you're too thrilled with the bangs. And he's like, well, my God, you know, my wife has a perfect, perfect face. You don't put bangs on a perfect face like that, which I thought was really sweet. But like, I just think, yeah, so those are two lessons to be learned. Be careful with the bangs, not for everyone.

I had the one little clip and it just kept sliding down. It's like a holding it back to say, hold people. Amazing. Okay, last thing to talk about, Kristen Cavalary is getting a lot of press off of this. She basically said, there's nothing wrong. It doesn't quote, she's getting slammed for this. It doesn't fucking matter when you sleep with a guy

or not. Basically, she says, I've talked to dating experts or whatever and they said 90% of their best couples bone on the first or second date. So if there's chemistry, go for it. It doesn't matter. It doesn't mean your relationship is going to be more likely to happen or not happen if you wait. And so people are, she's getting slammed for it. What is your thought? Just by people in the comments. Yeah, because look, not a people are like marching on Washington.

They're writing from their phone and all taking a shit. Well, first of all, look, again, it's all, we had the rules. If they didn't call you by Wednesday, you couldn't go on a date on Saturday. You know that's how I got, I hooked in parents' Peter, was the rules.

Really? The first and only time I used it. So should I be mad? Yes. You guys, you can't scan those two when we got divorced. You remember? Yeah, you guys. I've talked about it, you guys.

It's a classic book. It's from the 90s. It's called The Rules. And these two women who were happily married got together and like interviewed their grandmothers or something and created a book. No, no. Maybe it was a book. No, I don't know. They, I guess they did the rules to get married. I don't know, but they created the rules. Yeah. Which did work when the book came out because there was no texting and there was no iPhones. So you could, a guy could leave a message on your voicemail and you could, technically, or your answering machine even,

because voicemail, you could call and we check it. But in answering machine, you had to physically be back in your house to press it and see that someone called. So you, it would be easier to play hard to get, which see that someone called. So you it would be easier to play hard to get, which was the guy calls you and you're not home because you're out dating of the men. Paul, let me explain what hard to get was. It was not giving it up on the first night. That's what it meant. It meant that you treated yourself as if you were special and they were lucky to get you right to get. So that was a different thing.

Or you, you know, like you didn't, you, if they called you on Wednesday and said, you want to do something on Saturday, you didn't go. You had to get the, yeah. And they said, even if you're not doing anything, make it seem like you're doing something. It totally worked for me. That's right. I got it. I got it. I read it.

I met Peter and I was like, and I remember he, I was driving home from work. Don't mean to brag, but I did have a cell phone. And because it was like 1999 or something. It cost you $17 a minute to make the phone call from it. But okay. And he's like, so do you want to go to movie night? Do you want to, you know, he would not have said I love you. We would not have said, am I your boyfriend girlfriend?

Yeah. And I was like, oh, well, I can't tonight. I have plans. And I did. I'd plans to go to this charity event that I think Shannon Bedore had something to do with, believe it or not, too, from Real House's book, see, because she was like, I create charities,

I don't know. And it was called like the Bachelor Ball or whatever. And I figured he could figure out that that was happening, because there were guys he knew. But I was going, I was going with this guy. And I kind of felt like I sort of cheating on him, but the rules set. He didn't ask me before Wednesday, this guy asked me.

So it was like, you dressed up and we went. And I did make out with the guy, but he left. Peter calls me at 7 a.m. that morning. Hi. Snakey just see if some dudes over and I go, hi. And he goes, what are you doing? Oh, nothing, just waking up. And he's like, would you like to go to breakfast?

And I go, okay. He's like, all right, I'll be there in a half hour. His stare up. So we went to breakfast and then we went rollerblading and hung out the whole day. And then he locked it whole day and then he locked it down. Yeah. It's not going to have me go to another bachelor ball. But and then I remember so everything's working out. We're doing great. And then we go to visit my sister in Palm

Springs, Palm, looking to where her husband and she lived and they were just married at that time. And she starts joking completely revealing the secret of the rules. Stop talking about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. Telling about the rules. act like you're busy. You're doing a show. I had a friend that sent her a flower. So that's what it said. You're supposed to send yourself flowers. So they show up and mysteriously, there are some roses that just are being delivered. Oh, I didn't do that because I didn't have the money. I probably could have if I were that money.

But yeah, you had to, but see, that's it's like, when people say to me about comedy, like what do you, that they're being comedians who have advice, I said, do you wanna be funny or do you wanna be famous? It's two separate things. Do you wanna just date or are you trying to get married? There's two different things. Right.

Like, what, what, what Kristen is saying is not wrong, but she's already been married. She's just in the time of her life, probably to have fun. You know, I think that there are certain things to those rules that stay no matter what year it is. Yeah. I think there is an element that is inherent to men

that they have a competitiveness. Yeah, they want what somebody else has. That 100% they do. And I think that is not, it's a different time. Women just haven't realized that, and they're allowing, they're being like, well, I'll come over, I'll send you nudes, I'll do this.

There's some mystique. One of the things that Leah Mixweenie said in one of the things, I've sent so many losers, nudes for free, why not make money off the new? Why is it a standard that you're just sending nudes to people that are, you're not in a relationship with? Why, that's the sending the neweds,

I think is worse than just sleeping with someone on the first date because what are you getting out of that? It's not your business card. Yeah, like we don't even have business cards anymore, but why don't you just pass those out? Why don't you put it on your profile? Yeah, and so I think it's, so realize that guys may not even realize it

because the sexists come so easy to them. They might not even realize that they are competitive beings, but they are. They are about business, they are about sports, and they will be about you, so make it a little bit of a challenge. And they'll, that will kind of incite them. I learned that from the rules,

but I also learned it. I lived in LA has these weird enclaves of people sometimes, and I moved into a eight-unit apartment building that I'd like to call it a stripper colony because it was myself and a young black attorney, and then strippers of different times in their career. Like we had this one I used to call Magda because she was old. She'd go get the mail with her boobs just swinging in the wind. She'd lay naked and she'd go dance and henderson on the weekends. Then we had this beautiful one that was like the first time I met her,

she handed me this bag. She goes, my boyfriend's coming. Can you hold this for me? I don't know what it is. It was her luggage. She had actually just come from, she had went off with a salt and in Dubai. And she was her boyfriend.

And she came back and opened up her bag and she had like $10,000 in cash. Meanwhile, this has been in my house the whole time. One collected pets, one head like she was so beautiful, but her house was like there was flying birds and free, free form rabbits and two dogs. I mean, it was insane. But those women who I probably wouldn't have been friends with at home, I'll just be honest, like I wouldn't have, we wouldn't have had the same circle of friends. But in Los Angeles, we were the same friends.

And comics have Mondays off and so do strippers. They really taught me, I mean, again, I was like, who are you doing? I was flirting like Joey from friends. They taught me about mystique, have a little bit of mystery. What they were in the sex business, but they weren't just tossing it out there right every time. So they taught me about, look, if you're too excited to be with them, they don't want you. The guy at the strip club goes for the stripper that doesn't pay attention to him. True. And it was so funny. I learned so much about that feminine wilds because my mother didn't have a mother,

her mother died when she was young. So I didn't learn girly things. And they taught me how to be a girl. And so the first guy that I was like, oh, I'll be just blow off was my husband afterwards. See? Yeah. I blew him off.

I was dating other guys, not sleeping with them. But look at that. It worked for both of us. Yeah, I showed up at a party with another guy. When I met my husband for the first time I was on a date with someone else that I knew he was gonna be there And I said that I'm gonna go I'm gonna keep the date See I think they want something that you just already showed it's like you pulled up. Yeah, and a nice car already Yeah, I mean like nobody wants the person who's just sitting there waiting for him.

Right. Then eventually they want you to wait for him. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I loved connecting with you. Tammy, you have a podcast. I do. Tell us about that because I think that sounds right up the juices cube alley. So it's um, it's crime and comedy. I do it with my best best friend. I've talked to you about her for Laura. Laura Park. She used to be a police officer. She's retired now.

I just go on right along with her to just see her. But we started talking about all this stuff that's going on because we're lucky that as young girls traveling around, we didn't get murdered. Apparently in the 80s, there were serial killers everywhere. I happened to stay. I mentioned earlier with a guy who was a star search winner, Vince Champ. And he actually victimized a woman the night that he stayed with me. And I had to be interviewed by law enforcement because they thought he stayed with you while you were doing stand up. Well, in the condo, we weren't, I didn't know him.

Condos, you just throw people in, they were flat-powsing. Right. I didn't know him from Adam. I didn't even work with him. We were just crossing like, you know, I was leaving and he was coming, but we ended up staying in the same apartment that night. And I don't wanna say this word

because I don't want your algorithm to go off, but you know, he victimized a woman. Yeah. And I might have already said the word and messed it up for you. I apologize. So the night that I was there, but I didn't know anything about it. And the law enforcement thought I was his girlfriend

because women weren't on the road. And they're like, why are you in an apartment with this guy? And like, that's just where they put us. But I was also dating the guy who cheated on me. So it took a little while for them because they were like, you're, you're, can I just say the word then? Your boyfriend's a rapist.

And I was like, oh my God, I thought he was cheating on me. I didn't realize they were talking about him. I thought they were talking about my boyfriend at home. So it was a little bit of a threes company thing. But Lauren, I talk about all these crimes and comedy because not making fun of it, we really just laugh at ourselves, but there has been so much. I mean, from Phil Hartman to literally Roscoe, Arbuckle,

the Infatti Arbuckle, he was the first big, big name. He used to make a million dollars a week in the 1920s, a million dollars a picture in the 1920s, And there was a woman who died at one of his parties. Alcohol was in prohibition. And he stood trial three times for her murder. So there's a lot of stories. Oh, I love that. So it's called the Cop in the Comedian, a true friendship crime podcast. I love it.

And then where can they follow you for your dates and everything? What's your Instagram at Tammy Pesca Telly? Not Terry Tammy Go see Tammy. She's such a great stand-up and you have lots of dates and you're always out there and listen to her podcast and joy Thank you girl. Thank you for my Italian jewelry Thank you for my Italian jewelry.