Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Guys We F*cked, Kylie’s Baby and Housewife Malfunctions

Episode Date: March 24, 2022

Kylie Jenner’s son is no longer named Wolf. Teresa’s Luis from RHONJ is being sued for $113k. RHOC’s Shannon Beador had a wardrobe problem at the reunion that delayed production. More questionable information has come out about the Bad Vegan, Sarma involving Louis C.K. Then, the OGs of podcasting, Guys We Fucked join Heather in the studio. They started their sex and relationship podcast over 8 years ago and Heather asks all the juicy questions. How did they get started? What does it feel like to have so many people copy their idea? What went into producing their own comedy special? Juicy dating/boning stories…. and more.  Subscribe on Apple Podcasts to get exclusive Extra Juicy episodes every Friday and get all episodes of Juicy Scoop, ad-free Or get access to Extra Juicy on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop To bring your brand to life in this podcast, email [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Juicy scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy scoop. Well, Kylie and Travis, they shared a cute video Kylie did of kind of her pregnancy video for her new baby boy, you know, Stormie's little brother, very sweet. Everyone loved the YouTube video. It went crazy. Shortly after that, she posted on her stories. FYI, our son's name isn't Wolf anymore. So when the baby was born on February 2, 2002, 2022. I mean, I think I'm guessing.

I mean, that's a pretty great number. I'm guessing maybe she was slightly induced. I don't know. That was pretty lucky. But anyway, not saying that she was, but very lucky to get that date. And a lot of people wanted to get married on that date and have their kid born on that date. But she said in, she announced Wolf Webster, which is Travis' last name.

But anyway, now she said, FYI our son's name isn't Wolf anymore. We just really don't feel like it was him. Just wanted to share because I keep seeing Wolf everywhere, prayer hands, for all the wolves out there. I, we don't know what his name is. We do not know. We're waiting for the announcements. I just want to know, did they put it on the birth certificate and then get home and just felt like, you know what, he's not a wolf.

He's a coyote. No, I don't know what they named him. So anyway, that'll be exciting. You know what I think we're gonna know when he was named? The premiere of their new show on Hulu. It's about a week and a half away. I think it's like April 8th or something. So I think we're gonna know then. A lot of speculation, a lot of people try to figure it out.

Maybe there'll be some clues, maybe there's some hints, maybe we'll see a flash of a long nail that has something written on it and someone's screen shots it and I don't know. But we'll see, but it's not wolf, okay? So don't call them wolf. All right, real house size of New Jersey, the sun is reporting that Teresa's fiance,

the love of her life who she's going to marry, is being sued. Well, a lot of people get sued. So here's the story, because I just read it. Supposedly, they're saying that Louis and his business partner, oh, this other company, $113,000, which they did not pay of produce that they received

for their company called Protostepo. They got 113,000 pineapples for Teresa's. Can you like pineapples? My pineapple party. No, I just thought it was funny that I did not realize that one of his businesses was Protostepo and she was so into fruit and pineapples. So, um, he apparently accorded lawsuit. They said this money was due. He didn't pay. He and his partner are the controlling people. He is, he and his attorneys fired back and said, we're not the controlling

people of this company. Um. We already ate all the pineapple and we filed for bankruptcy for a million dollars worth of bankruptcy like a year ago. So good luck ever getting it. And that's the end of that. I mean, listen, anything that happened with this guy, people are gonna write articles and they're gonna put them out on the day

that the show airs, which is on Tuesdays. But she did say on watch my house live, she's getting married and she said that Melissa her sister-in-law will not be a bride's maid. And so that stirred some controversy last week is Melissa sad about it. Melissa said no, I don't care, it's fine. And I don't think anybody's dying to be a brisemade, like second time around. Like once you are in your late 30s or older,

I think you're like fine, like just, hey, let me just go to the wedding, where acute dress, get you a beautiful gift that gets sent to your house. I don't wanna bring it either. No one wants the gifts brought there. Well, who has a big enough card to bring it home from? Hi, you're all buzzed.

You're just walking, nobody. So you just send the gift and show up cute and you're good. So, no, you have the bridesmaids and all that stuff, the first time around when you're young. Unless you're getting remarried on a TV show, then I say yes, have all the bridesmaids so we can see them. I could see very much she having Melissa back, but you know what, be authentic. If you're a little bit, if you and Melissa have always been like this,

you don't want Melissa looking really great in her dress, strutting around. You don't want to be the Melissa show. Yeah, don't ask her. You already have four daughters. She's really should just, this is it. Listen to me Teresa. First of all, buy your pineapples from a normal store. Don't let Louis bring some pineapples that fell off a truck. Okay. Literally go to have like the pineapples at your wedding from like whatever, whole foods or something. Then just have your daughters be the bride's mates. Don't have, you know, Jennifer or some old school friend from the neighborhood. Just have your daughters, that's classy.

They all wear dresses that work for their body but are the same color and that's it. You don't even have a maid of honor. You just have all maids of honors and it's all your daughters and they're all equal. You don't make Gia the maid of honor. Just yeah, bridesmaids, just all bridesmaids, no maid of honor. That's my advice to you. Okay. Alright, TMZ has shared the photographs from the Ritz Carlton Room of where Bob Saggett died. A lot of people are like, why is anyone talking about this? Why is TMZ reporting?

They're reporting and I'm just going to put an end to this because as you know, the family fought to not have any of the photos autopsy photos are crime not crime but the photos around him dying uh... out there but they did share just a clean room i don't know if it's if it's his room i guess it's his room uh... the risk-crawleton or in or land oh and they have now

close the case and said it is this padded headboard that he hit his head on while getting into the bed and then he went to sleep. There was no external bleeding, only internal bleeding. And so now they say, we think the wound on his head that caused this death was from hitting something that was soft on the outside but harder inside. Meanwhile there was another doctor that we heard about early on that said it looks like he fell from six feet or was hit with a back of a head with a baseball bat.

Where's that guy? Has that guy and the guy that said I think he hit his head on a padded headboard. Are these people in the same profession? Have they talked? I think the point is we're just never really going to know. But we do know he went in alone. We do know that when he arrived from driving from the club at 2am, he seemed perfectly fine. There was no mark on his car.

He didn't get a car accident. He wasn't slurring. It was an acting weird. They didn't find anything weird in this system. Any drugs. They didn't find anything in his room. At some point he had his head and maybe they're saying it's the padded headboard because the Ritz Carlton is a powerful place and they don't want people to think that people are slipping and falling on the marble floor or the porcelain sink and the porcelain things that make more sense to having like and then waking up and going to bed. I don't know. I don't think we'll ever know.

Rest in peace. Okay. We did the bad vegan on Tuesday to talk about that show. Louis CK had dated the Sarma girl. And in 2019, there was an article written by Page Six that, so this was before, obviously, before this Netflix show that came out last week, emails reveal that Louis CK may have given Sarmah an STD. There's emails that were somehow, I don't know how they found them, maybe because she was you know

facing trial at that time, that it was from 2012 they were dating and they sounds to me like they had a one-night stand and's like, I'm sorry, maybe I gave you an STD. I don't know, you should have made me wear a condom. And then he goes on to say, at our age, isn't everybody kind of got everything? The future generation will be having sex with glass penises and plastic vaginas, but we exchange bodily fluids.

So, hey, I think you're great sorry if it happened I don't know she also dated her married attorney that was her defense attorney who was also the attorney of like L. Choppo or whatever that big drug dealer anyway those emails were revealed as well I read that article and that was Anyway, those emails were revealed as well. I read that article and that was very sexual and like they were definitely getting on and he was married with two small kids. So again, a lot more is being seen about this girl. I mean, she's quite, you know, she acted like in the Netflix doc that her only love of her life was her pitball mix, pit, pitball mix, Leon. And he was a cute dog and I understand the love affair.

But she also got around with people like Louis CK, the weird guy that she married for his money, this show, you know, and now she's trying to act like, oh, I don't like the way I was portrayed in this thing. You were portrayed exactly the way you were portrayed. And this doesn't help. And I love that this info came out. OK, so the conservative ship of Amanda Bynes is over. I think it's really great.

And the started, Amanda Bynes was an actress. She was a little comedian, like, yeah, that sketch show, she did all those like wrong, calm type stuff. Then she does have a heart tattoo on her face. Oh, I hope that she gets rid of that. But anyway, the concertorship is done. I'd read prior to this being done that her mom was, her mom was for it being over with.

And let's see. Unfortunately, I just, I think she's going to just live a normal life. I'd be very surprised if we see her doing any kind of acting or anything. I think she's, I think she was into fashion. I don't know what she's going to do. Besides starting her own podcast,

which she hasn't announced yet, but I plan on that happening. For sure. Amanda, if you want a podcast, why don't you come on my show, and we'll talk about your life and where you are today, and then everyone will say, I never knew who you were until I heard you on Juice Discoop, you should have your own podcast and then you will and then

you'll hate doing it. Okay, um, Sex This City you guys, otherwise known as and just like that got a second season. And of course it was going to get a second season. I mean, I would be so upset if it didn't. I have never loved hating and making fun of a show more than and just like that. And I cannot wait for the second season to come out because it gave me so much material and so many things to impersonate. So Emu says the most exciting, challenging, significant relationship of all is one that we have with

and just like that. So big news. I mean, we don't know where Chae Diaz is going to be in this. Remember she left to LA to start, get her podcast, not her podcast. Her pilot, she put the podcast on hold. What's going to happen with that? I guess that we are not going to see much of Chideas, but we'll see.

I think we'll have a couple episodes of them breaking up, and then Miranda coming back. But anyway, it's going to happen. I'll do my predictions at my live show coming up with everybody. I'm going to say my predictions for that for the second season. But anyway, some people feel mixed about it. You don't have to watch it. Cancel it already.

You don't have to watch it. Selling sunset is coming back April 22nd. Just it's all the hottest models that somehow got the real estate license walking around modern homes and can't wait. Real housewives of Orange County celebrated their 16 year anniversary yesterday. That was the first episode of the show and I'm glad people made a big deal out of it. I will, like I said, look, I have strong opinions about what I want for the show, how I feel it can be improved, what it needs to go, what it can stay.

But I'll never stop watching. It sometimes takes me two to three days to get through an episode because I fall asleep. But I feel like it's still what I love. Esthetically, I like to look at it. And we just need to have a little more excitement. But God, I just look at this, and I just remember the fact that no one had real, like no one had fake eyelashes,

a lot of original teeth, and a lot of movement in the forehead, a lot of sky tops. And I just, a lot of BB, a lot of BCBG. And I just, it just gives me chills. And they are the ones that created a lot of yellow hair. Remember when Becky's mom said, well, it looks yellow. Rest in peace, Becky's mom.

And there's nothing better than that music that they play at the final party. They don't, there's no other franchise that has that kind of music that is, oh, I can hear it right now and every time it makes me sad, oh my God, it would always be like an end of the summer party, end of the season, and they're all like, and then it'll just write

whatever sad things happening. Laurie Peterson's son went back to rehab. She's still working on her happy place. Or like all, it was just such a different time because they didn't really fight with each other. We just followed their own weird sad lives. And that's, it was amazing. just followed their their own weird sad lives and that's it was amazing

anyway uh... speaking of a c so there was some drama talked about the outfits that they were for the reunion shannon apparently she was uh... did a show project runway where they had a couple housewives. And she really clicked with her designer. And so she said to him, come and do my reunion dress. According to everything I've read, she flew him out and paid for it and put him in a nice

hotel, which there are only nice hotels in OC and it's expensive. He then put together this yellow dress that according to the blogs and stuff I've read, absolutely did not fit, did not work, we're like, she did not look good on her. They said there was this netting on the top. I have some photos of it and it looked like she was caught in like a fishing thing. And so they didn't know what to do. They held up production for two hours while somebody else went to like a Neemans Marcus or something with the South Coast Plaza. I don't know if they're filming with OC or LA. God are some

dresses and then this pink dress really worked. She looks good here but she still took a photo with her designer in front of her trailer. So we, you know, seemed like they were okay. But the designer is now saying, this is the dress and discussion with the help of my friend. This was made two days before I left a calli with three measurements. So he's trying to say, I did everything right. I got measurements. I did this that I don't know why she wasn't happy.

But I guess people forgave her for starting late because everyone said no, like even the other cast members were like, no, you cannot wear this weird yellow fishing thing. It made her, according to the things I read at the made her midsection look big, she didn't like it. As you can see here, it looks really, really good. So the pink was a good choice.

Hope they can save the friendship. I don't know the guy's name, I'm not going to say his name because I don't want to hurt his business, but it's this is probably going to help his business because he probably now he'll be like, whatever it was a misunderstanding. This same thing happened with Jen Shaw's guy that went the outfit from the first reunion there that they recorded her like screaming at him and he he said he was treated very badly he never got paid for his clothing designs and he'd given her a whole look her whole season so maybe you don't want to be the person doing the real housewives of anybody's reunion dress on speaking of Jen Shaw so there's a another report, this is a legit,

because I didn't order it, I don't know. But Gen Shaw was doing her merch, Shamazing. She has like a bomber sat in jacket that's like Shamazing with a crown on it and t-shirts and like Gen Shaw is legal and all that. And people are reporting that they have ordered their stuff, sent their money, A, have not received their money, or any kind of tracking number or anything.

I don't know if this is true, but if it's remotely true and Jen Shaw is a juices scooper, she better get on this now and rectify it because this is the last thing you need for your trial reputation, everything else. And if you're anybody that ordered the Gen Shaw stuff and this happened, DM me, I really wanna hear, did you actually get screwed and send like $65

for a sweatshirt and not get it? Speaking of merch, here's some of my new merch, cute tank, cute zip up, just light enough for summer or when you get a little nippy when you're walking through the grocery store, you just throw this on. And maybe a fellow GC scoop will come up to you and be like, hey, I'm into light too. Would you like to be my friend? Anyway, you can get it all at Heather at McDonald.net.

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Join it, get the inside scoop on Hollywood, friends, my life, my inner thoughts. Everyone that has joined has loved it. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I am with the host of Guys We Focked. Yes, it's going to be pretty juicy episode. We have going on. A famous podcast, Spinnerown Forever. The hosts are Corinne Fisher and Christina Hutchinson. Thank you for, thank you so much, Heather. Thanks for having us. You're welcome. You're welcome. You came to see me a couple years ago. You guys live in New York still, right? right? And yeah, let's talk about your show. You guys have done a lot.

You've been doing this a while, and have been partners this whole time. Yeah. Great title of a podcast. Thank you. Guys, we factored. Remember the first time I heard about it, I was like, hmm, like what? How is it evolved? And how many years has it been going on?

Because you're like me, I'm on six and a half years, but I know you're longer than I am, are you? Eight. Yes, and now it's like everyone has a podcast. Yes. And you know, sometimes I try to tell myself, girl, it's okay, you know, but sometimes it can be a little like, wow, really? Don't beat the art of your death.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're always starting high though. Yeah, you are. It's a real testament to how good this show is and how much people love it. You're always at the top of the charts. Now, speaking of intellectual property and all that stuff, around that time, or maybe after you,

the caller daddy girls were together and they were a partner when they broke up in that juicy bar stool story. What were your thoughts then? Like was there, did you know them? Because it was sort of a similar show of two female hosts, very sexual content. We actually have a, what you say,

I'd say, we actually have a juicy inside inside scoop about all her daddy and barstools for it. Yeah, okay. I mean the inside scoop is that this show is based off of our show and barstool literally put out a casting call saying we're looking to do our version of Guys Me Fucked. Yeah, so we saw the cast in the course. Because it's so real.

Oh, we're in a long time after Guys Me Fucked. Like it was like a full cast of all of them. I'm gonna throw a rash time after guys me Fox. Like a, it was like a full cast of all of them. I'm gonna get a surprise. Just thinking about. Yeah. The how? It was like a memo of them, like an internal thing of them that looked like that.

But wait, how did you see it after the fact or did you see it while we were alerted by listeners of the podcast? Like people, I've since tried to find the actual like ad because like, you know, you can find old ads. You can find the ad that they put out to, you know, cast the Spice Girls. But I was like, I couldn't get this one.

But I mean, all the signs are there. We know a multiple people DMed us and told us about that. I mean, it's obvious in the show, even in the trajectory of the show. Yeah, I mean, the big different thing is that Sophia ended up leaving. But I don't think that was planned. I mean, based on what I know from behind the scenes.

So I mean, I studied that whole thing. I mean, I heard what I know from behind the scenes. So, I mean, I studied that whole thing. I mean, I heard both sides of the story and I interviewed Sophia and I understood it all. Yeah, it made sense. And, yeah, one of them got $60 million, but on the other hand, Sophia is still doing great. She gets. And it's probably better that they went their own ways,

but wait a minute about them copying your thing. I mean, like, ah, it's a good idea though. How, but how, what health frustrating, but basically what they did was they said, we want our guys, we fuck, but with hotter chicks. So we need younger, hotter women. And that's exactly what they did. Something a little too shy entertainment, a little less feminist so that it's better for the male gaze because that is what Barcel was about. There's a reason why Barcel is a multi-million dollar company. They know what they're doing. They're smart.

Wow. Erica and Nadini follow us on Instagram but has never talked to us. Why is that? She's like, she's watching us. And I love Erica and Nadini. I mean, I'm not even mad. I mean, I'm mad about it in theory because it's our baby and I feel like it was bastardized in a way. And like, I do feel like that show gives women bad advice, but I can't control all the advice that women get. So it's frustrating to create something

and then have the thing that's copying you become larger than your hand. Like, that's a tough pill to swallow. That is. But I can't be mad at of parcel because they're a business and man, did they make that business work? Like, it's like, oh, God. Well, I mean, skins, scooms, the spanks.

Of course. Of course. And there were 12 other things between spanks and skins. And it's like, I know that too, even with now, juicy scoop is trademarked, but the amount of times that I'm seeing people say, and we're going to give you the scoop, and let's get to anywhere that even still say juicy scoop, you can say it. know but like can't just can't call

show jesus group and the similar types of shows and stuff that's that's okay though I didn't like I didn't invent podcasting I didn't invent doing hot topics but yeah I mean so far you know no that hasn't been the blatant that would be That would be That would be so hard I mean that's and that you can't take away from us But I think the pressure it's me is like I'll listen to some of these copy because there's a lot of there's a lot of Specifically two females hosting comedy sex podcast

They're interview guys they putt or guys that date, or guys that won't date them, or whatever the fuck. And I haven't listened to all of them. It's such a good idea that all of them do well. Yes, that's right. Well, it is. What a testament. There's a couple of things there.

One, it's like, this is a conversation that needs to be had. So everyone should be having it. So that I really like, because then we're all like talking about things finally. We're talking about you. But when I listen to, like, I've listened to Caller Daddy, and I'm like, this isn't good. I don't think it's good.

Well, I was not fucking entertaining in it. And I'm like, is that, but I'm like, okay, and I'm not, what am I missing? I gotta be missing something. I know I am. Well, I will love it. I just love it. Well, I just listened to her interview

with the Anna Delvey. It's true. Oh, she gets really good interviews. She gets really good at, I'm listened to her interview with the Anna Delvey through. Oh, she got, she gets really good interviews. She gets really good at it. And she's a good business bitch. She's like a bad bitch. She said for $60 million. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. She should bring in some good interviews. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I know she cares about her product. And the girl Anna is a horrific human being. Sounds like it. And it was, and we were watching the video too. And I was a, and in what we're watching the video to, and I was saying to Annie, I go, you know, this is really good for Alex. This is like making

her more real and likable. I prefer something like this where she's trying to call the girl in jail and like just every five minutes, just a recall and she tried to get the scoop. This chick is just a horrible person. Yeah, she's like a narcissist. She doesn't think she's done anything wrong. And but when I listen to just apps horrible person. Yeah, she's like a narcissist. She doesn't think she's done anything wrong. And, but when I listen to just Epps, like her solo episodes, which were just like, Hello, Died again. Open your mouth and suck it. I'm like, I'm like, what are you doing?

Sometimes I think that's really funny. I don't know, I guess you got to be in the mood for it. Yeah, I don't know. She's beautiful, she's entertaining. She obviously has tapped into something. It's like, okay. But tapped into something. It's like, okay, yeah. But I think going that route of like, you know, getting these kind of, you know, that's going to be the smart route to go in the long run of life because it's like, you know,

but yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a bit of a competition, like competition and both. Right. I like it because it keeps me on my toes. It inspires me to be better. That's why when I listen to a show that's a copycat type of show, I want it to be better. If it's not, I'm like, what the, we're wasting everyone's time. You know, I mean, that's why when I fell on my head,

I came in here on, what do we do? We Tuesday morning, I recorded a show. And I was freaking out that it was gonna be released at noon and not midnight the night before. Right. Because I was like, I don't want people to think that there's some, like, I'm out of the game because I like, can he cap now or something? And I also don't want to, you know, I want people, you know, like, I was like, well, let

me tell you the scoop first. Yeah. So it really happened. But yeah, it's definitely, the consistency is what, oh, you always say that they had really admire because they'll start, they like these other new shows and stuff, but the people, definitely the consistency is what, oh you'll always say that they had really admire because they'll start, they like these other new shows and stuff, but the people, it's not their main job, so they get an acting job or they go on a trip

or they just like go on a journey to leave or whatever it is. And I remember I learned that from like a YouTuber, like the most consistent thing to do is like, if they think they're getting a video on Tuesday, you better freaking deliver that thing on Tuesday. And so that's been a big thing. But like no, it's funny because how you said how obviously they're listening to you

and the CEO listens to you and everything. I'm like, oh, I mean, it's, I should be flattered and I say, you know, I do rate well. But there's so many times where I'm like, oh, isn't that interesting interesting that now they're writing about this subject. When no one was writing about this subject before. Like, I don't necessarily break stories, but I sometimes am the first person to talk about, like something that's happening. But they won't say, I heard this on Juicy Scoop. They'll just do the research themselves and then make it their own thing.

But that's the thing about today. We put it out there. But they won't say, I heard this on Juicy Scoop. They'll just do the research themselves, and then make it their own thing. But that's the thing about today. We put it out there, and you're only to be successful if you put it out there. If you like horrid your dear thing. Oh, of course there's no way.

Right. So it is what it is. But you just said about breaking news, because even the New York Times, or if a written news source breaks it, they will credit in the article. The journalistic way. This story was originally broken by, you know, a sort of secretive.

That's a secretive. It is. Yeah. And I'm like, that's so nice, because what did it take? It took a little second. I'm still on the other place reading the story. Right. So it's not taking away business, but it's like everyone just leaves feeling better, you know?

People like credit for the things they do. And sometimes people are like, well, you're not feminist because don't you want all women to be doing well? I want to be very clear. No, I do not want women to be doing well with my idea. That's like saying, what I want someone to go on tour with my jokes from my set, no, I would not. I think people thought I'd get, when you're a stand-up comedian, all you have are your ideas. All I got is your ideas are it.

They're more than your face, they're more than your outfit, they're more than your career goals, your ideas are it. And so that's why it can get like, like when they keep making a home alone, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, I'm like, how about you make a new plot with new family and stop making home alone? Yeah, you know. You're out together.

It's a classic, don't ruin it. So in speaking of that, like in all your years together, has there ever been, because I think there are a lot of women that get together meant to, a lot of partnerships, especially in the podcast world, and a lot of partnerships break up. Yeah, mostly. One feels that they've done more than the other. Yeah. One feels that they have a higher platform than the other and they're bringing the other or they're booking all the guests or whatever. How have you guys avoided that?

Or have you ever like stepped in there and been like, wait a minute, you know, or? Yeah, oh my gosh. Certainly, we put our relationship on a, we deliberately respect our working and relationship and our friendship. And I think I was in a seven year relationship once, that's the longest relationship I ever had.

But the longest relationship I've ever had is with Corinne. Did you really make a concerted effort to be respectful and to set boundaries more so she and then I followed Sue? Because I was like, what's a boundaries? I mean, you hate me. I was a lot of learning and growing because we started working together when I was 23. But I'm very scatterbrained and I get like very overwhelmed easily and I'll go through like these bouts of like mental health problems and so all and then Karin steps in and just you

know she's like you know mentally healthy and does. It is good for a mental breakdown that you can switch back and forth. Yeah, yeah. Like that is that is important. Um, and also but even like even like walking into the building today we were taught like Christina I don't know how to drive anymore. I have a license, but it would be dangerous for myself and others if I got behind the wheel.

Because in New York, you rarely drive. Yeah, I moved to New York when I was 17 years old. Like, I don't remember how. And so I was like, you're the driver. I'm the office manager. So she's showing emails. I'm I'm replying to emails about press, making sure we're everyone in time.

I'm a schedule for our trip here. Like that's the, I also used to be an assistant at a talent management company. So like I, that's the stuff. She was in good as a student. I was in a assistant. I was very bad at it. Okay.

I was too good to the point where like no one wanted me to succeed in entertainment because they just wanted me to be their assistant for the rest of my life. So I do think like my advice to artists is be bad at your nine to five. Be so bad at it that the only choice you have is art. What, it was interesting because I've talked about that too. Like with big companies, like people that want to, you know, all of them to work for the Kardashians

and one day I'll be able to be heading up the skims design or whatever. And maybe that is the case or wherever those places, but also know that like, yeah, if you're that really good assisted and you're the first person that has brought the coffee on time and everything, that is so great, but you could also be so good that you don't get promoted.

Yes, that is so true. Yeah, it's better, honestly, I think it's better to just have a great personality and be like, lovely, bad at your job. And then people will be like, man, I really like you around, but you're so bad at this. Can I refer to you like to something that you would rather be doing?

Like that's my motto. That's the lane. That's the lane. That's the lane. It's called working for a temp agency. I was so mad at myself for being such a good assistant because there was no growth in that. Yeah.

Right. There's no growth. That's so funny. I remember my dad had like an assistant and like she was being moved from office to office and they're like, it's your turn to have her, you know. And, um, and she one day she was like decorated his office and was like doing all this, you know, and he was like, so then he went to the partners and he was like, let's send her to decorating school. We don't have to fire her but she became just like successful

interior design. Oh, but like that's kind of the same thing like yeah. We all love you but like you can't type or whatever the case was back in the day. Yeah. You're not doing the job that we're paying you to do. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What can we do? Yeah. Yes. Okay. So you started doing it. Now I remember that there were lots of other things that came about. Didn't we were you supposed to have different deals and TV shows and stuff? Oh yeah. That's so since the podcast, since it's success, because it's pretty successful like pretty quickly. Yeah. There's so many like reality show

deal like all these TV. I feel like Kriinen and I have probably worked with you know we've had like 10 various opportunities with television that were like pretty real opportunities. And a book. Yeah. And the book, yeah. And so you do have a book come out. Yeah, with Harper Collins. Okay.

That was in 2017. Yeah, and we've done several iterations of our touring show. Um, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But now we finally, like, so we, but we had like failed TV shows with, well, just named Networks Who Cares. Like, lifetime, true TV.

Like, and now we finally was just announced in deadline that we have a show where we're developing with Fox. So. Oh, awesome. Can you share about that? Yeah, I mean, to come with Fox and Lionsgate, Tannin' Balm coming at Lionsgate. It's the origin story of Guys We Fucked but without our front-out side of the entertainment business.

So it's like if us, our same personalities, existed in a world outside of the entertainment business. They never want you to be. That was our idea, actually. Yeah, because I'm like, I don't want to go about comedians. I'm a party podcaster. Okay, honestly, that was smart, because in my day of when I would pitch and sell shows

that were about my life, I'd sold one when I was 30 and then one when I was like 40, I guess. Both about my life and both times I was a comedian. The one was working with my parents doing real estate as a comedian and the actress and the other one was being a comedian actress, but a mom, okay. They were like, we cannot have you be a comedian. So it's interesting that you think there's a lot of shows about comedians because that was always the thing that like, they never wanted to see that.

It was always like, there was gonna be a newscaster in Denver instead. And I'm like, yeah, but then the stakes aren't what the stakes are. It's like a unique, weird thing. And you need to be invested in the world. Yeah, but at whatever this I was always like sure whatever We'll write the thing and we'll go anywhere and then You know that's the spirit. Yeah, there you go get that Emmy girl I know that's not exactly working a secret like That's not exactly working as secret. It's like, it's like your vision.

It's like, I know what you mean though, because sometimes you're working with, your work, we've had deals where we're working with people. We're like, you don't like us and this isn't gonna go. Yeah, I'm just like, I want on a computer being like, this isn't going actually just email us to my mother because no one likes this. And it's where we're like doing a reality show type

of thing for my family. And it was like the last day of shooting with the production company, you know? And I go, okay, well, we'll either be really successful or we're never gonna speak again. This might be the last, or when you go to those pitch meetings and it's the last one, but you still haven't gotten all the rejections yet and you're like, is this it?

Yeah, yeah. How do I think of something else yet? Should I keep on this and hope that it's going to be? Yeah, yeah. So that is so, okay, so that's cool. Yeah. So it's okay, well, I think that that's probably smart. Yeah, and it's, I think the longevity of it too will help.

And if it's not entertainment related. Yeah, it's more healing, it's more reliable. It's more reliable. Step outside this world that we're constantly in. I'm excited to write more about like, heresy baby. You would, heresy baby. You would, heresy, and a bee baby. Heresy baby. Heresy baby. Heresy baby.

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like an outfit that a florist would have. I love it. Oh, I love dressing like a middle school art teacher. That is the law. Titties out, baby. Well, when you have small tits, they can basically, as long as the ariola is covered, they can pretty much be out all the time.

Let them breathe, yeah. And what about what is your weird career that you wouldn't have? An EMT, because I'm super good at emergency situations. Oh, really? Yeah, blood doesn't scare me. Oh my God. I like saving people.

Oh, that's my worst job. Also, I have no strength. You would not be the MCI feel. I feel like it would be. If I was on the sidewalk with a bleeding out and you came up to me with the gurney, I'd be like, oh, I'm so sorry. I'm in trouble.

I would be so bad in any kind, first of all, in any era other than today. Like, technically, I mean, how I wouldn't know how to do stuff. Okay. I'm really, like, sort of that just in like, God. I'm thinking of you churning butter now with a little butter on my body. I think I, I think I, non-digital tools. You know what I think about, there was a show that they came to me.

It didn't go anywhere. And it was gonna be on provo they were buying it from like australia or something and it was taking people and their families to this cold assack and the houses were all gonna be from the sixties like the mid sixties and it was like maybe four years ago that they approached me for it and i was so sick of doing juicy scoop. Like I was so burnt out on how hard I was working and how it wasn't like jelling really yet. Yeah.

And they were like, so you would be the mother. And like there'd be no technology. And for the summer, you would just, and I'm like, oh my god, I could just like live like my mom. Like I would just make tuna casserole and like, no notifications. No notifications. And like, oh my god, I could just like live like my mom. Like I would just make tuna casserole and like no notifications. And like, yeah. And then so I was completely down for it. My husband was like, what, what is this weird thing?

And I was like, and I asked my kids and they're like, okay, I'm like, you know, we can watch TV, but like we won't be able to do anything else. And like, it's like this weird experiment. Anyway, it never happened. But I still, I think I could do the 1960s, like I could like cook or whatever, and all of that, but not older than that.

Like I couldn't do like, I couldn't do like, when there weren't refrigerators, and it was like ice bomb, so I couldn't go that far back. I couldn't do all of this. But I could get, yeah. Could you make it through prohibition? Well, those people, you could still drink, right? It's like the parties were. You would definitely know the spots. I would know the spots. Yeah, I would know the spots. And you should know. You should know it. Juicy scoop if it was around in the 1920s and you were like

ratting everybody out for prohibition or something.? Yes. You know them off you guys. Can they're in all the decades? That is funny. Yes. You're on the Mayflower like. So I love that. You guys have out all these things. I hope that goes. And then if it went and you're running a show, now are you acting?

Would you be acting in it? We're us. We're starring. It's a real stretch. Will you still be able to do your podcast once a week? That's a good question. Yeah, well, we'll see. But I mean, I think we're always committed to it.

Whether or not we're doing it weekly or putting a bunch of episodes in the can, I think it's different. What's happened in the last eight years, and we've never missed one week in eight years. Never enough of a week. Oh my god, that's what crises. That's my brag. Sorry.

We've had crises. We've had. It's crazy. Trips, wey. That's my brag. You got some pricey. We've had. It's crazy. Trips, we have. That's pretty great. Yeah. Yeah. So, okay, so you said you just did a special.

Yes, so describe. We self-produced it. We put our money where our mouth is and we reinvested in our art and we, yeah, we got, we made our own comedy special. We hired a production company and we shot it in Salem, Massachusetts. Corinne directed it. Why did you choose there? Because that's a powerful place for women.

For witches? Yes. Well yeah and we also yeah we have like we're we're definitely the witchy energy podcast of this ex pot comedy podcast. Oh yeah I'm talking to her. She loves the parents. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. We're green and tarot. We're like the little weird stuff. Smulging everything. Got it. I just felt like a place and I actually, when I thought of it, I was like, I can't believe no one's done a special in Salem.

And, you know, because people say, oh, why didn't you just do it in New York? It's like number one, we're always in New York. It's not special. I mean, it's special to us because it's our home, but it's not special to us as far as like performing. It would have been just like any other night. And I think a special should take place in a city or it's how that means something.

Yeah, I do. Like, I don't know. We're both on the fence with marriage. I'm not against marriage, but I'm up single, so I don't know. But it's nice to be able to plan an event for yourself to pay for something. And I love that it wasn't a wedding. It was our fucking comedy special. It was really important to me, because I'm like, this will never let me down. Like this is like golden and solid. So it felt good to like spit. Because when people get married,

they spend a shit lot of money. And it was nice to spend that money on art. Yeah, and even like a lot of strong women still that we know come and talk about like how they're so sad that they're not married or like it still seems like out of all they've achieved that's still the thing that really weighs heavy on them that they didn't get that to happen or that that's still the most important thing or so much of their value is in that and I don't yeah just don't feel that

way yeah I think what it is is that because it was so ingrained in women, you know, between the ages of like 35 and up is You know as a little girl that was always you know people talked about it I think now with younger women and certainly children that are being born today. I don't think at least in At least on some cities. Yeah, I don't think it's gonna be this kind of thing. Where you feel like it's so necessary, or like such a big part of your life, you know? But, and it's interesting to read about. Christina gave me the book, All the Single Ladies.

And it's a stat after stat of how when women started to not get married at all, or just get married even later, just wait until you're like 35.'s a it's a game changer for the opportunities that you will see in your career the amount of money you will make even your happiness level it's just like the the proof is there there's numbers to back up yeah and what are your relationships like romantically? I'm dating something somebody we've only just kissed and he's

Really handsome and cute, okay, and I have a much younger boyfriend So yeah, yeah, that's I just tried something new, you know, she's like a healthy data She like goes out. I'm gonna connect with people and I'm like Well, once I like started thinking of dating in a different way a lot, a lot of guys are going for women that are older in all the brackets, like a 24 year old guy dating a 35 year old. Like you're like 40 year old men are like dating 50 year old. Yeah, yeah. Or 35 year old.

And we're one super hot, 48. Because like, why not? Women really, truly, and I'm not just saying this, I'm learning this now and I'm like, I can't Women really, yeah. Truly, and I'm not just saying this, I'm learning this now, and I'm like, I can't believe the world didn't know this or is not recognizing this. Women get so much better with age. Like, so much better with age.

It is wild. How much better women get with age? And I think it's so funny the way society values the young woman, but it's like, young women are fascinating and amazing and great, but it's like, you know yourself, you know what you will and will not negotiate on you know your boundaries You know what you want you know get it you know also I think with like a younger guy that is You know a younger guy whose date. Okay, so let's a 28 year old who's dating a 28 year old girl

Within two years there's gonna be that are you gonna get married? Kids this right of a 28 year old guy dates a 40 year old girl within two years there's going to be that are you gonna get married kids this right of a twenty-eight year old guy dates a forty-year-old woman uh... provide maybe she already has her kids maybe she doesn't want to whatever yeah it's like this pressure of like that they should not try to get knocked up not gonna try to like get me to take care of her like we can just have our

motives you can exist yeah we can just have our balance. There's no motives, you can exist. Yeah, we can just have this great thing. And it seems to be like a very successful combination. Like, people seem to be like, no one's trying to pull one on each other. Like, everyone's just like, we're here because we dig each other. Well, exactly, there's a lot of fun. Like, when you don't have these goals,

like, so often the advice we'll give on the show when someone writes in is like, they'll write in with all these goals that they have that would need to involve a partner, but they like haven't met that partner yet. So I go, how do you have all these plans with a person that you don't even know exists? Like we're so, it's like we're so sold that there will be a 100% a soulmate coming to us that we create this whole world. And that's the only thing we think of.

It's like, why not try to hit goals that only involve you? You know, I don't know. It's just very strange to me. And how do you feel about different situations? Like polyamorous. And... And, man, let me tell you something. That's a lot of people right now.

We're gonna love you for us. A lot of people say, Polly, they're Polly, because they're not having sex in their current relationship. So to fix that, they then go, let's both see other people. But it's like, first of all, Polly Emory is a commitment.

And it's a lot of conversations, a lot of negotiations, a lot of things. So it's more challenging than that of a man. Wait, there's Polly, wait, there's, well Polly Emory is definitely a Wait, there's polygamy. Well, polygamy is definitely a different thing. That's not even legal. There's polygamy where you have one guy, you know,

has several girls. Then there's where a couple is like dating a woman and she screws both of them. Then there's where we're no longer monogamous. We're together. We're free to date other people. But that's not like a swinging situation. Like I go off with my numerous dates

and you go off with your numerous dates and we talk about it or we don't talk about it. So you're getting a lot of people asking, that's becoming like a trend or what? Yeah, and to me they're using polyamory when they really mean open relationship because polyamory is truly like a unit where there's love everywhere.

It's not just sex. Like polyamory is truly like a unit where there's love everywhere. It's not just sex like polyamory is very structured Yeah, it's a very specific Community that is doing that and I think people are using it really loosely when they what they divide your energy up Yeah, yeah, I think it's far more challenging than monogamy far more challenging I think there are very very few people on the planet who are truly able to love multiple people at once fully and in a healthy situation. So I think people, number one, are writing and saying that they are interested in polyamory when they really mean open relationship.

When they really mean open relationship is that they just don't have the energy to break up with the person and they want to have their cake and eat it too. Like, that's what they, it's too sad to that. Not thought out. To go, well, I can't break up with him because the sex isn't good. Like, it's more than just, it's like, well, no, you can. It's okay, it's not mean. You can be honest, that's all right.

It might hurt the person's feelings and it might hurt your feelings. But like, So if it's just, there's one thing to break up with somebody and you've been dating a few years and you have your apartment and he has his and you have your own money and he has his and you don't even share a pet.

Right. That's just clean. Yeah. Then there's other where you are married or you have children together or you even have proper together or even living together. Yeah. Is like, oh, do I really want to move? The rents are so high where I'm going to go.

I like my place. So like pin the bug. Yeah, and I don't hate this person like right I know a lot of people stay cuz I would like to feel some passion right like you know Can you? You know super like me in the shower place. Yeah, yeah, we're not super like pro manog Managami, I just think that we wish people would think about it right a different way other than just like me want to fuck other person. Yeah, Dan Savage is like one of the best people

on this planet giving advice about sex dating relationships. He is truly like the Godfather of sex advice. And we love him very much. I listen to his podcast all the time. And I regurgitate a lot of his advice that he gives because it's very thought out. It's just he's in a beautiful writer. And he says he calls it poly under duress, where a cup, where one person is like suggesting

it for their own reasons, whether the valid or not, that matter. And the other person doesn't want to lose them. So they say yes. And so now they're in a poly and they're like, and then sometimes that person that's in poly under duress falls in love with somebody. And the other person was like, didn't want to break up. So they said, let's do poly. He's like, wait, what the fuck?

And now it's just this web. So we get a lot of those types of emails where it's like, didn't want to break up so they said, let's do Paul, he's like, wait, what the fuck? And now it's just this web. So we get a lot of those types of emails where it's like, I got myself into this situation because really what I should have done is just broken up with the person. Right. And then their person that went along with it could be very resentful.

Or yeah, or the classic of like, let's have, or even just like, let's have a threesome. And then the girl ends up enjoying the girl more than the guy. And it's like, and then she goes off to be with the girl. She goes off to be, explore her late life lesbianism.

Like, you know, like, I think you can be very, yeah, it's just people to just remind people to be thoughtful about the way that they negotiate and talk about and communicate about the situation, whatever their situation is. Yeah. And if you agree to something sexually, like with your partner, know that like, there's a good chance that I'm gonna go off and do that,

and you could be jealous, you could, it could not hit you in the way that you expected to. So just like, be ready to feel those feelings. I did this show called All About Sex, the only six episodes of it. But so much of like the questions and stuff as a TV show, it was like right around like the 50 shades of gray and everything was like, well, the way to spice it up

is to dress up and buy toys and do a fantasy. And I was like, oh my god, like, is there anything, any other advice to that? Like play with a power dynamic. Don't dress up, play with a power dynamic. Do that. Power play, everything is power, right? Our whole lives were negotiating power with people, Play with a power dynamic. Don't dress up. Play with a power dynamic. Do that. Power play.

Everything is power, right? Our whole lives, we're negotiating power with people. Whether it's an assistant, a comedy partner, a husband, whatever the fuck. There's various power negotiations happening there. With sex, that is like the ultimate physical manifestation of power. And I'm not saying like one person is powering the other, but it's a very powerful act. It's a very vulnerable act.

So it's like, I totally understand the notion of spicing things up and wanting to. It's very human and it's so fun. When you spice it up and it works, oh my fucking god, it's the best. It's addicting, like it's enthralling. And so playing with a power dynamic, that's not usually something that you do in your relationship.

Sometimes people, if they're like married or been together for a while, they have one type of sex. Whatever the power dynamic is in that sex is one person submissive, is one person dominant, not saying that they're like full on kinky. But if you reverse that power, whatever the power dynamic is, that could be enough to just jolt you into excitement. Yeah. What about have, you know, in this day and age? Because you get a lot of people asking questions and giving their scenarios and stuff and

it always seems like like the shocking like from the Oprah days would be that like I found out my husband was having gay sex. Right. You know, and oh my god, you know, did I have you found Oh my god, you know, did that. Have you found, maybe in this day and age, it's more like not a deal breaker. Like, I don't know, I'm just curious. Like, people been like, oh, you know, why can't a guy be a little bi? Like, it always just to be like, a girl could be a bi, but the minute the guy gets D,

forget it, that's what he'd rather have. He's really secretly gay, he never was in love with you. Blah, blah, blah. I think it's the secrecy as the problem though, because we actually very recently got an email that was a guy who had like dicks or something on his phone. It was like a man. Oh yeah, he was bicarious.

Right, for sure. And he wasn't saying that. Yeah, and for me, like openly, if someone on a dating app or somethings had bisexual in the profile, no problem. I've dated a bisexual man. That's not the problem. The problem for me is just be open.

I want to know that you're bisexual before I start dating you. I don't want to find out like after or in between. Yeah, I don't think so. As long as, especially for people who know, like if you know, just like Tommy. Okay, dating a bisexual guy, that's a lot to then be aware of. Because if you're dating a guy, you go to a party

and you think he's straight, okay? You're in a straight relationship, and a girl is there, and she doesn't have a partner, and she's being kind of flirty. You're like, okay, bitch, like step back. But then if you're dude's bisexual, it's like every guy, every person that he goes, I'm going to play baseball, I'm gonna go to the gym, I'm gonna be with my friends.

Oh, right, sports. And if you are a little bit of a jealous person, how do you know that he's like, and then he comes home that night, and he has no energy left to screw you, and you're like, what did you do at Sockburn? This is completing it. This is completing it. It's a worst case scenario in Heather.

This is completing being untrustworthy with being bisexual, and the two of things have nothing to do with each other. Right, so, but to me, an untrustworthy person, don't you think it would be more difficult for them? But just don't get an untrustworthy person. But you're untrustworthy.

If I was going to say, what needs to happen in that scenario is that person has to work on their jealousy issues. Yeah. Okay. That's what's happening. That's what's happening. That's what's happening. That's what's happening.

I didn't suspect or worry about my bisexual boyfriend cheating on me anymore than I. Well, we've got monogamous, though. Yeah, I mean, this is fight. Monogamous, though. Yeah, this is like a very short relationship, too. So you were on... In general, bisexuality, not at all a deal breaker for me, as well as I know. That's it.

Yeah. What about three sums where two guys and you? Oh, that's my favorite. I'm not into three sums, but yes, you. I flew a porn star from Los Angeles, to New York, to have sex with him and another man. Tell me everything. Ryan Driller.

How did you find him? Uh, he, so this porn.com. I was sleeping with this person. He was a fuck buddy. It was the best word for it. And very sexy, very like, we had just great sexual chemistry. And we're, and he like had an adventurous side to him.

I was, I had a very sexually adventurous relationship for seven years. So I was like, oh, let's I love when I broke up with that guy. I'm like, oh, I want to explore sexually being sexually adventurous with another guy. Like it's so fun. And so this person kind of I knew he had the bug of like, hmm, and I'm like, what would you be? What would you want to do? Like is there anything like on your bucket list? And he's like, I would love to see you get fucked. And I'm like, perfect, sign me up. And so there's this person that we eat both new. Yeah, I knew of him.

And then this person knew. I could DM anyone with that blue check mark. I have a call. Yeah. Okay, so there if I get you a lot of shit, don't let anybody tell you different. You DM them and say I'm a big fan. And if it's of your work, I do have any plans

to come to New York, he's like, no, and then you're like, I'll get you a flight. That's pretty much all that happened. Kurt's gonna do the ITinerary. Yes, well I will do it. I'll be happy to. Well, I've been up. He will look so my fuck buddy booked his flight

and I booked the hotel. So we had complimentary skill sets in this. And then you also have to pay him first time? No. But the payment was his flight and his hotel. And he got to have sex too. Right, got to have sex too. And then the other guy just sat in the fuck buddy watched

or he joined in. There was some watching, there was some joining, there was a little bit of everything. They didn't do anything. I asked him, I was like, oh, are you bisexual? Are you bicarious? Because I wanted to know, what are you curious about? What do you think about?

What turns you on? What gets you rock hard? That's what I wanted to know. Yeah, I'd sign up for that part. I'd be like, can you guys kiss? I wanted that. My boyfriend went on a work trip and I was like, can you, if you want to kiss, and then in his eyes name here,

I was like, if you want to kiss him on the beach, that's totally fine. Just tape it. I mean to that, I want to kiss him on the beach, that's totally fine. Just tape it. For me. I used to watch Sof Court, like gay. I don't know, it wasn't porn, but it was like, I don't know what you call films where it's like, there's, it's a movie, but like, is it?

You know, it's mostly sex. It's so funny because I've said that. That's my favorite genre of porn. My favorite genre of porn is like prime time story lines of TV shows that weren't supposed to be gay and then they shock you with the gayness. Oh my gosh. You guys gay show working in an office.

Say you think a very hetero. Yes. And then they're just like, you're speaking my language. You took that client from me. You'll fuck you with your hair. That's how it goes and then they just start going at it. Really, you're speaking my mind. You took that client from me. You'll fuck you. Well, that's how it goes. And then they just start going at it. Really hot.

That's my favorite thing. I don't like that. I watch that. That's great. Just I don't know. There's a little things like that. That's what I'm always like when I watch the bachelor at, I'm like, when are two guys going to just go for it?

I mean, I'm sure there's some of the lighting, but I don't think we've ever seen it in captivity. Like, it's like, maybe afterwards or something. But so when you said that of the licensing, but I don't think we've ever seen it like in captivity. Like it's like, maybe afterwards or something, but so when you said it to the guy, was he at all by then, or did he just thought you were like ridiculous? No, that, I mean, that's my current boyfriend, and he is not bisexual,

or maybe he hasn't discovered it yet, because he's young. But he was just like, he was like, where are you serious? He's like, are you serious? I think there was a little bit more jealousy, because in that youth, there's a little more jealousy. I think jealousy tends to fade as you get older. So that was like 36 year old me talking to 24 year old him.

And he was more like, in his head, he was like, you'd be okay if I just like hooked up with someone else. I go, yeah, a man? Yeah, I don't care. That's no, I'm never gonna be a man. So this is not a threat to me in any way. To a cop dish. In any other day. Yeah competition. Oh, all right.

And you have a D. Yeah, I mean, and again, and I was also, I'm like, I'm the one who's asking you and telling you that that's fine. So it's like, yeah, I mean, don't secretly start like, hooking up with men. That would also be strange. Yeah. I was like, you know, just if, you know, the waves are hitting a certain way. And when you, throughout all your years of being on this show and like sharing about your

own experiences that everything, when you'd be dating someone, would they listen to the podcast? Would you be on restriction of how much you could share or? So, yeah, it's interesting. Before we started the podcast, I've been dating somebody for two years, ended up dating for five more years. So the first five years of a guy's been fucked, I had a boyfriend the whole time. And I was exploring various themes with him and stuff.

Like I said, we were very sexually adventurous, but there was a lot to talk about there. I did talk about some intimate things without running it by him, which was bad on my part. And we had a big fight, which makes sense. He was understandably very upset. And then eventually we figured out a system. Because I'm just now learning to be like

an adult woman where in where like even if you don't want to deliver the news you still should you don't mean like you have the heart conversations or to like say like hey I'm going to talk about this and the podcast is that cool and this is why I really want to talk about it and I just like there's a part of me that's just like I just want to talk about it and hopefully it doesn't hear it, which is not good. So I'm getting used to that. I've been single for three years, and I hadn't, the last two years, I have not dated, I didn't have sex,

I just fucking, I've so much childhood trauma shit that I needed to sort out, and so I was focusing on that for a while. Now that I'm seeing somebody, I'm very mindful of just letting that relationship happen, however it's going to happen without highlighting it. But there's certain things along the way of like, you know, right before you, you know, we see a guy's house and you're like, oh, I hope it doesn't suck. I hope he's like, got a nice house. You know what I mean? Like, it's all these little details that say a lot about a guy that, as you're getting to know him.

So that kind of, those kind of things I talk about, but everything else personal, I kind of keep to myself. And so like, what have you guys noticed? What's like, did you been doing this so long? What's like the new kind of questions that you're getting from like people in their early 20s that like you, how can I differentiate between the generations of, I mean, a lot of people under dress, that's a lot.

Yeah, this is, seriously, it's been like a very common theme for people in their 20s lately emailing us. And a lot of Seriously, it's been like a very common theme for people. They're 20s, lately, emailing us. And a lot of like, I would say like emotional abuse. That's a lot of my friend is in a physically abusive relationship. What do I do? A lot of, should I move cross country for this guy? A lot of...

I see. Like, it's very interesting because I would say like as much as we feel like, you know, Gen Z is progressing in better than us, as far as sex and relationships go, like there's more openness, but beyond that, it's still kind of the same problems, which is like disheartening and, but interesting at the same time. I would venture to say there's still more,

we're not on to, we still gotta crack some codes with the way that we interact with each other sexually romantically. Do you think that like certain popular shows affected the way, like I, sorry, people reacted like that. That was my secret. Yeah, sex in a city came out when I was already married, okay? So I like enjoyed it.

But as I was watching it, I was like, my God, you know, my friends and I were way more like judgy and would check each other about how many people you're sleeping with or who I was like, my God, you know, my friends and I were way more like judgy and would check each other about how many people you're sleeping with or who you're sleeping with or you'd keep it to yourself. So to watch these women that were their characters were, I guess, about my age, but maybe they were just single. So I was just kind of like, Jesus, is this what's happening? Like, like, and now when I think about I'm like, Jesus, is this what's happening? And now when I think about the way the younger generation, like girls like 25 to 30 or whatever, react to sex, I'm like, I think they saw this show about, you could screw whoever you want,

meet them at the gym, screw them, whatever, which a lot of that was written by gay men. And I think it like sort of affected their whole thing. Cause it's like you see it and you see it as a kid and you forget that there's a writer's room and this isn't real and we're writing this. And then you just emulate it and you want to go to New York, you want to live that life.

Yep. And we certainly see a lot of remnants of, I want to be cool so I'm going to like propose a three way to my boyfriend. It's like, but does that make you wet? Because if it doesn't, that's not something you should put on your sexual repertoire. Or like, right.

Or there's something, you gotta find what turns you on about it instead of what you're trying to fucking prove. Do you don't prove anything with sex? You come or you have an intimate physical encounter with another human being. Like that's what sex is, right? So I think it's so easy to get wrapped up in these things that we should be proud of or brag about, like, shows

like section of the city would like kind of push us. Or like, I'm like, what's a euphoria I'm going to do for this? I love it, I love it too, but I'm like, I mean, I was saying, I started to watch it and I was just, and you know, it's so graphically sexual and I said this the other day on the show. I was just, and you know, it's so graphically sexual and I said the other day on the show, I'm a little bit bummed that it's that sexual

because I honestly think it could be a great show. I have teenagers that you could watch with your teenager because it's like, oh my God, the way the girl becomes a drug addict is so bleak. It's very interesting in her journey with that. So honest and like such a real thing that could happen and why the other girl starts becoming a sex worker for attention and like those are the kind of things

that I think are really important to see. And all the characters, but then you can't watch it with your kid when like, you know, the titties around just bounce it down. Or the cast. Dicks or like, you know, like I was just like, yeah, but like our teenagers watching that show and thinking, all this is okay,

and all this, you know, it's the way you're supposed to act in sex and this and that. Well, it's interesting because people have criticized Euphoria for like, glamorizing drug use, and I go, if anybody watches that show and wants to use drugs more, you're just an addict, and that's like a journey that you're gonna go on anyway, whether Euphoria came on the air or not, I watched that show and wants to use drugs more. You're just an addict and that's like a journey that you're gonna go on anyway,

whether you for you came on the air or not. I watched that show and go, I never wanna touch and drag. You got triggered me with the transition. I felt it was like an after school special, literally on crack. Like I would watch after school specials and that would keep me from like everyone

to get pregnant, ever wanting to try a drug. And I think, yeah, that's it too. And to make people aware, and the fact that they're trying to outfetten all, that's something that's so important, and how much it, and how you think it's cool with the friend at the carnival, this is season one, and then the end, it's the worst nut of your life. I thought that, yeah, I agree.

I'm like heteronormative issues and like having a you know, sorry there's a spoiler's coming if you haven't watched the season two and like, you know, wait I haven't seen oh you didn't. I'm told you're on season one. Oh sorry. Don't tell me. Okay. I did say season one so don't spoil.

Alright. I'm very few things to look for. Oh no how can you give me the other. How can you be giving the juicy scoop? You gotta watch you for it. It's the hottest show on the air. I know. Okay. But it's like I have to be by myself

But I have to and I have to take it and small doses and like I It's a stressful show. I have to do it. Yeah I can't just not one that I can like binge on a Saturday, you know, okay Yeah, I'm gonna do anything on a Saturday Well tell everybody like where they can watch your show, what everything they should be following you, and all that stuff. Yeah, so our special days are debut standup comedy special on youtube.com slash guys we fucked without the u and fucked.

That is the URL to watch it. It's the first video you'll see on our page. We also have a lot of content. Guys we fucked is available anywhere you get podcasts. We're on the luminary app exclusively, and then after seven days, the episode's going front of the paywall. But if you're a luminary subscriber,

like I mentioned our email inbox several times in this episode, those bonus episodes that we do on luminary are just us reading emails. And then divulging the more personal stuff, we kind of save that for the paid subscribers, because it's a lot. The ATT is at your diary out there for anybody to listen to.

Mentos, yeah. Yeah, and so, yeah, the guys we fucked, we have a lot of YouTube content out there for anybody to listen to. Mentos, yeah. Yeah, and so, yeah, the Guys We Factor, we have a lot of YouTube content out there for free and our social media is that, Guys We Factor. Oh, and then you said you were going to Bill Mars show after this? Yes. Oh, I cast Club Miranda.

Yes. Have you met him before? Do you perhaps have a Bill Mars show? I have. I have met. Give me a scoop. I have a scoop. Well, I remembered how I met him.

Just said the day when I was watching the Playboy documentary. Oh, okay. You guys watched him watch that. You know, that sounds good. I think you I should watch that. I think. What streaming services is that?

It's on Aini. Okay. And I think there's like the last one is gonna be Monday. Ooh. There's 10 of them. Oh, wow. Whatever.

Get that. Get you caught up. And so it was how would the girls get invited to the Playboy Mansion? And I got invited to Playboy Mansion for a couple of years I went to the parties. Oh yeah, so cool. So cool.

Nothing ever happened. Like, I, first of all, I mean, You didn't see any wild shit? Well, first of all, I was always looking for someone like normal and like cute. So I was not gonna screw the old men that were there. And I was not, someone who was into drugs. And I just was like, happy to be there.

And just experience the beautiful house and the lamb chop lollipop apps. And just like, I was just about that. But that is exactly the way they described it. Exactly what happened. I was at something with Bill Marr. There was a Bill Marr dinner or something. My friend was seeing him.

So I was at a restaurant. And then his friend was like would you like to come to the playboard mansion and they were saying like there were these old men that would like go to clubs and just invite girls but then there was this other thing called the mini mansions that these guys would try to do and then that was for like if you really want to be a playmate and couldn't make it and like but you're trying to do it they'd be like you can stay at our house and then you would basically just get fucked like it would be horrible like awful stories of a couple of girls like sexual assault like great like like maybe you agreed to it but

it's your horse like you're like living in the house for free for a reason. Somebody dangled the possible job It's like this is harder than deal and you know saying our father and I don't know what people do Okay, but I was just like oh my god, so yeah, so then So then I met him a couple so then my friend dated him and then I went to his show and oh your friend dated him Yeah, she's a notoriously single right like Oh, yes, there's a million years ago friendsiously single, right? Like, oh my God, this was a million years ago. For years ago, they said, but like,

he just never married. This was a million years ago, like, you know, like, honestly, I think it might have been before 9-11, anyway. So she dated us. She dated us. Because I remember I picked, we went to the show at CBS, like CBS, and then he like hopped in my cellica,

and we all went to like, the restaurant, some restaurant, and he was like hopped in my cellica and we all went to like the restaurant Some restaurant and he was like really funny and nice and so then cut to like 20 like 20 years later about a year ago or so I Think it was during COVID. I can't remember anyway. Hey bad here. It's so my friend goes Do you want to go to the Bill Mar show and Santa Barbara with me and? I was like, all right, yeah, that might be kind of fun. I mean, I don't feel, remember me, but we're gonna go backstage and everything.

So we go to the show and just at one point, like I'm talking to him or I think, and oh my God. I mean, I'd say like, and I'm like, oh yeah, I probably don't remember my, I'm a comedian too. I don't remember my friend Daisy, whatever that you dated a million years ago. But you know, the show was great.

Well, the low we're talking, we're laughing, we're talking about things. And he's like eating his like chicken and baked potato after the show. And I'm like, we're talking. And all of a sudden he's like, okay, you guys are really loud. And I was like, we're talking. And all of a sudden, he's like, okay, you guys are really loud. And I was like, I have got to get the fuck out of here. Like, I don't think there's a worse thing than a guy telling you like, my ear drums. That's something he would say. Oh my God, I was like, I know.

I was like, oh my God, okay. So we leave. At least he wasn't like, I got the guy on like, well, anyway, great show like we're gonna get a hug. I don't really think anything of it. I know it wasn't a hit. like, I got the guy. Well, anyway, great show. Like, we're gonna get a hug. I don't really think anything of it. I know it wasn't a hit. Oh my god.

I mean, he meets me. I know he wasn't like, well, I think it is dead. Well, did he just get off of the show? That's what I'm saying. Because when we get off stage, I don't want anybody to fuck it up. Well, the whole thing was that my friend invited me and she was with her a few years ago

and her husband was really good friends with him. Oh, okay, so I thought I was doing her favor by letting coming and going on a friendship thing. I'm just thinking this might be something I need to put on Patreon. Anyway, so then I come back. So I think the night was okay. It wasn't the head I thought it was going to be. Yeah. But whatever.

She then goes on to tell me that she's like, Mar was so mad at me that you know when I got invited to the show It he just wanted to talk to me and then he he was like all bother that I brought this comedian girl And then you were like bringing up your friend and all this stuff. Oh He thought you like you're trying to offer sure. Well first of all. Oh, was he trying to fuck us. Well, first of all, was he trying to fuck? Or was he honest? I think my friend was kind of bitchy to say that. Because I like, first of all, I know I drove home from Santa Barbara, so there's no way I was wasted.

Right. And you're making me feel kind of shit. I know I wasn't drinking and driving. Like, I wasn't. Right, right. She's talking to you. Like, that's private. Like, she shouldn't reveal that to you

That's like an appropriate. Yeah, like oh man. I made a bad call bringing you. Yeah, I was like First of all I Dumped I actually after she told me that I have I have friend umdder I kind of friend dumbed yeah, because there wasn't a lot of activity her coming my way either but like she didn't tell me that I was just kind of like fucking rude. I I was just, yeah, because I was like, you asked me and I literally got rid of another birthday plan, because I thought you were like, needed a friend to go to this.

But then I also was like, ooh, this could kind of be cool for me. Like, I'd love to be on film our show. Like, who knows if you know who I am or not. But then when I got in that space, it just brought all back those like, I'm the female that an older white comedian male does not find funny. I'm the one who loud.

Who is this chick? Of course, you're a comedian. I don't know who the fuck you are. Like, I just started. So I kind of felt that when it was happening, but then with a really loud ladies, I was just like, Oh, my God. It was real stated there. Yeah, I just wanna die. But yeah.

Right, it was also so I'll tell me tonight. It means, yeah, speak to a woman, you know, a full adult woman, as like it seems like a childlike thing to say, like, you know, quiet guys, like no playing anymore. Oh, also I wanna say in his defense, my friend said the worst thing you could say after a show. I liked it, but I don't know why everyone else was like that.

I thought you were fun. No, I thought you said that. Great. So yes, the worst is I've had people so much to meet after shows when I actually think it was a great night. Yep. Yep, yep, yep, yep.

And then even like in meet greats and someone's like, can I just apologize for my city? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, for where I was standing, there was a lot of laughter and I thought I did like a great show. So she did a little that, she walked in and I have to say, I have to say it was this theater in Santa Barbara and the acoustics are not great. Like it's an old situation and there were a lot of old rich Santa Barbara liberals that came to see him and they like literally were saying, what did she say? What did he say? And then the lady would be like, Ernie, he said it Obama times. Like it was just like... That's so funny. That's a big idea of being up.

And so then we walked in and I'm like before I can say so freaking hilarious. Right. Love it. Bill Mar. Remember me and Daisy. Like before I could say that. Right. I was say, so frickin' hilarious. I loved it, Bill Mar, remember me and Daisy. Like before I could say that. I was like, she did that like, I don't know what happened out there. Like, oh my God, what is wrong? I think people couldn't hear you. That is so fucking rude. Okay, I'm just surprised you didn't say get out pigs.

I think he did it because this really was like his friend's wife. And then there she goes. That's right. I forgot about that. That's what we're definitely doing this on Patreon. Then she goes. Then she goes, oh my god, you have to come to my, you know, you have to go to my house and say to Barbara, I've totally redone it.

Next time you come here, you have to stay at my place. And he's like, he's had her name. He goes, I'm never staying at your house. I appreciate the bluntness. I do too. I know how to proceed. He's not fucking lying. So you can bill him,

you think he's gonna stay at your house? And you can't stay at a barber. He's going to the bill more, whatever that fancy hotel is. He's not gonna be excited to get a free night in the guest room. Right. You know, like, I hate seeing other people's houses.

When somebody offers you something that you couldn't give a fuck about and means nothing to you, but they think they're doing you a favor by offering it that's always such a funny, talk about power dynamics, that's so fucking funny. Yeah.

Unless they're not there. Like, to say someone's house, when they are in, like, no, oh, yeah, get a hotel terrible. That's terrible. Unless you're like a relative. I've done it with friends and stuff like that.

And, um, but now, because honestly, sometimes I'd be like, oh, that will be great. You know, I'm doing stand up after stay four nights. I'm making this much. Oh, I'll save this much. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But then as now that now I am like, no, like I just want to watch TV, I want to get my

coffee. Yeah. Don't want to hear your dog. Yeah, right. It's a lot about the dog sometimes. Yeah. Because you don't have a dog. I have a dog, but my dog.

That's your dog. Yeah, I love the dog, but my dog isn't barking at 6 a.m. after I went to bed at 2.30 after doing two shows. Oh yeah, God. They're still out there fault to stop the dog. Like, that's their life. I have friends. I've only done it. I used to hate it a lot of friends houses and we're interrupted by their dog.

It's only been a couple times and now I'm good. Now I'm like, I'm down to stay if I'm not performing. If I'm performing, I need to be at a hotel. Yeah, right. Because you need your own fucking space. And again, it's like, I might want to stay up till 3 to watch TV. I want to sleep till noon. And then it's not my friends fault who lives in a beautiful mansion

that needs to walk her dog or the dog gets getting excited. It's not the dog's fault that I couldn't go to sleep. I just say Chelsea. That's so nice. It was not the dog's fault that I just say Chelsea. That's so nice. It was not Chelsea, but it was another very wealthy friend and I love her. She might be paid for it. I'm not sure.

Oh, nice. But the point is, I will come and I don't care if the dog wakes me up as long as I'm not performing. So, like, that's, but yes, that's very funny. You guys are awesome. Thank you. I'll do a little new ending. We'll go marry that part. You already said where they can watch everything. Yeah. You guys are awesome. Thank you. I'll do a little new ending. We'll go marry that part.

You already said where they can watch everything. But thank you guys. I wish you lots of success. Thank you. This is very exciting. And I hope the Fox show goes or whatever million other things you're working on. I love that you're comedy partners for life.

And it's just a beautiful thing. Thanks. Thanks for being so open and supportive with us. You're both coming on your podcast. Thank you. Let us know when you're in New York. You have to come on our podcast studio now. Yes. We'll be quick to three of us.

Oh, that's awesome. Great. Definitely. Thanks, Anthony.