Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Heather Shaw From Jim Carrey Doppelgänger to Comedy Queen

Episode Date: May 7, 2026

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I'm so excited. because I have a funny lady, a hilarious comedian, a fellow Heather. It's Heather Shaw, and welcome to Juicy Scoop for the first time. Hello, Heather's. I never meet a Heather. This is nice. You don't? I don't ever meet Heather's. Where are they? You are a little bit, okay, I always joke that our name is going to become like Gertrude. It is.

But you're younger than I am. How do you mind if I ask your age? I'm 58. No, I'm in 38. So you're a little bit of like, because I feel like the majority of Heather's are like, where are they? Trailer parks? No, they're like my age. Okay. It's like the 70s, 80s. Yeah.

A little bit. Yeah. And I have been trying to encourage young women to name their children, Heather and bring it back. I don't think it's hot. Make Heather's hot for generations to come. I don't think it's happening. I think, I saw on TikTok somebody. said Heather's an old name. I was like, fair. I never meet Heather's. I love it. You're like

the second Heather ever. Well, thank you. You and Locklear. And what's your middle name? Alitha. Good luck. I don't know. My mom is on drugs, I think. I don't know. That's an interesting real name. Alifa. Everyone thought it was Alicia and I had a list, but I'm like, no, it's Aletha. I think it's English or white. Like Abiza? Yeah, exactly. A Barthola. Yeah. That's where my middle name is. It's like Barthalona. I'm like Hilaria Baldwin. Yeah. Where do you hail from? Well, I'm from upstate New York. Okay.

I've lived all over. And now I'm in Louisville, Kentucky. Get me out. I'm trying to convince my wife to move to California. And so you are a lesbian? Yeah, fully. I'm out, baby. Are you a gold star late in life?

No. What are you? No, I always knew I was gay, but I would bang guys. Okay, good for you. You know, I like the unit. All right. I don't like what's attached to it. All right.

But it's a good, you know, I'm a penis friend. And when did you really? I think I want to go full, full gay and just be with a woman and have a happy life. Well, I always knew. I knew that was going to play out. Like in first grade, I was like, oh, I'm a lesbian. Did you tell anyone? I didn't have to. My siblings are gay too. So we're very gay also. My parents are so disappointed. Yeah. How many? Three. Older sister, younger brother, me in the middle. Gay. Singing show tunes. And are the parents straight? The parents are straight. Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

Are you sure? They made kids. Yeah. They're like, they're committed to the straight life. They're breeders. Okay. So when did you realize that you were funny? Or they wanted to make this a career because you're a great stand-up comic.

You have your first stand-up special. Debuting May 15th, you've said, 14th? May 14th, yeah. Yeah, yeah, on YouTube. It was going to be my space, but here we go. We're on YouTube instead. You have a huge tour. Yeah.

I discovered you and started following you back when I saw you on, you know, doing reals and TikToks. Yeah. And one of the things is, though you are a female, you do look very, very much like Jim Carrey. It's not weird. It's the mouth, right? It's the nose, too. Really? I got the nose.

Like, you absolutely could be his daughter, brother, sister. Some people say grandma. Yeah. I got to moisturize. I got to start moisturizing and doing Juergens. She's so tan. I'm like, how did you get tan? Juergens, it's a secret.

Oh, wait, speak of which, you know, we reached out to them. I had some reach out. And? Because I said, I really have been pushing the Jervyn self-tanner for like years. And they wrote back and they said in all transparency, we were only looking at younger people. F you, Juergens. And I'm like, I cannot tell you how many people say, how do you look that tan? And I go, Jurgens self-tanner, but.

You got to start lying. Tell people it. Only buy it if you're under 35. No, you got to start lying now. No, you can't. Well, who cares? Durgens, at least throw me a few free bottles. I would never.

I really care. Yeah. What the hell. There's another self-tanner people. Come on, come on and let me know about you. Come on. She's tan. I'm done with this loyalty.

Yeah. Okay, so tell me a little bit. So you said you're the middle child. Middle child always looked like Jim Carrey. From New York. Yep, from upstate. Basically Canada. Kind of counts.

You know. But do you, now, have you ever looked into if there's any 23 or me? No. My mom could never pull Jim Carrey. No. No, not like he's your dad. Oh, you're saying further back. But maybe you're like fourth cousins or something.

I don't know. I've never looked into it. I mean, if I think you're so close to Canada, you never know. Right? Maybe one slipped over in the border. Have he, has he reached out to you at all? You reach out to him. No, I've never reached out to him.

Because it's like cringy. What am I going to say like, hello, I have your face? And then what? What would you do if somebody DM'd you that looked exactly like you? Would you be like block? Well, I have a lot of people that will say this is your doppelble. gang or this person's on 90 day fiancee, whatever. Some I'm okay with. Some I'm like, yeah, that girl's pretty.

But you're not reaching out going like. No, no. Right. If it was, I guess if I, it was another comedian. Yes. If I, if there was a comedian that like, you know, was 20 years older, like he's 20 years older than you or more. And I just can't believe that he has, that someone hasn't sent your stuff to him. Well, I'm sure they have. And he hasn't reached out. I'm sure they have, but he's probably like, okay. That's, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe he doesn't care. What about that whole thing that happened? What did you think that happened when it was like the conspiracy that he was that he was wearing a mask or that he was there and that he looked so different or he got work done? What did we ever find out? It's facework. All of a sudden people forgot about face work. So you think it was him? It's just face work. Yeah. Everyone thought it was. And it hadn't settled down yet. Yeah, there was fillers. I think there's some blef. Upper, Lower, Middle. Who knows? You know who I don't even know who I think just got an upper, Bluff. Ryan Seacrest? No. Okay. I'm just guessing.

You know Olivia Wilde? Yeah. Oh my God. She looks... I got to do a video on that. A cuckoo bananas. Okay. So... What's going on there? I see. Olivia Wilde. Beautiful actress. She dated Harry Styles for a while. Oh, yeah. Who by the way, is now engaged to Zoe Krobbott. Who gets engaged every year. But also I don't think anyone seems to care. No one cares. They keep pumping the new. They keep sending it to like people to pump and people like, we don't. we have we're fine we don't care Harry Stiles who cares

and and I always thought Harry Styles was a little gay he's a little gay isn't he he's a little gay he's a little gay and then she and then they worked on that movie don't worry about it darling they were on that movie don't worry about darling which I was so excited about because I love Palm Springs I have a house out there I love that era

of 1960s yeah and I thought it was like going to be a fun like 1960s thing and it was so dark. In the end, he was just like, oh, what do you call those creepy guys that are just into video games? Yeah, wasn't he just like an in-sell? Like, just like a redditor-in-selled? He turned out he was just an insult. They were like a beautiful girlfriend who was a doctor that he, whatever. Didn't he like sedate her and then just make her perfect in like a virtual world or something? I forgot about that movie. In a virtual world, they were in the 1960s and she was like a 1950s-60s housewife. And that's what it was. But anyway, Olivia Wilde was in, was in it, but she was a director. and basically left her husband, Jason Suddukas. Sudukas. I love that. Sudu-Dakis? Yeah.

For him, he served her while she was doing like a TED Talk or like a panel. Yeah, it's fierce. Divorce papers. And anyway, she showed up and I'm like, listen, this is this, what is going on? And I'm like, I guess this is just someone who is already thin that. It's jealous that everybody else is getting thin and wants to be the thinnest. But then my friend said and said no, she got the upper blef. I think it's that in Oz epic.

I have always said I like that sexy eye look. What is an upper blef? Okay, so it's like, like, okay, so say how I have like a bone here. Yeah. Okay, so some people have different eyelids and she's one of those people. She never really had the bone. but I think it's pretty like Renee Zelliger and Leanne Rhymes

and a lot of people it's a unique eye shape I think it's beautiful but then you go see a plastic surgeon and they're like no we'll take out this piece of skin so that you then can see that bone but it really changes your look

like you can lift your face a little you can fill your lip a little but when you change the eye shape then it's like and that's what it is It's not only she older, always been thin, but now she changed the... Now she changed the... She would waste away, like...

Maybe I think it's this eye thing and just always being thin and just being... She looks a little... Yeah, it was spooky. I don't even know where we were going with this. Well, we were saying Jim Carrey's upper bluff. So, anyway, that was such like a kind of a fun couple days of conspiracy theories because then it was like, no, is it this Alexis Stone who's like this incredible makeup artist? And she played into it.

It was smart. Yes. It was smart. And then it was, no, but his daughter and girlfriend are there and like, what is it? But then he had that weird voice in the speech. But I also was like, is he playing into like a fun experiment for us to freak out? No, I think it's just aging. It's like, Biden always whisper.

Biden's like, but like when he was 30, he probably was more. I think he's just an aging guy. Have you ever gone down that rabbit hole about the Biden doubles? And that like there was one Biden that was like three inches taller? No, I had a guy come up to me at a show after and be like, I know it's you. And I'm like, what? And he's like, I know you're Jim Carrey as Joe Biden. And I was like, I got to get the fuck out of South Carolina.

I don't know what the fuck is going on. Greenville, South Carolina, you're fucked up. Yeah, I mean, this guy, none of the conspiracy theories make sense. Like, they thought I was on the red carpet as Jim Carrey, but my, but then what? I'm wearing a prosthetic mask that makes me look crazy. I don't, I couldn't follow. People were saying I was a clone. I'm like, what am I, why am I involved?

Okay, so when was the first? being in Kentucky. You did realize there is a very strong resemblance. How old were you? Like a child, like eight. When Ace Ventura movies were coming out, because I could just pull the face. Oh. Just like the all writing.

I can just do that. And when was, and that was, you went to see Ace Ventura and you did that? Yeah, I would just do it for like my friends and babysitters and, you know. And so the first time you discovered it yourself. Yeah, you could just pull the face. And you enjoyed his comedy too. Yeah, I was a huge comedy. Yeah, I love his films.

I know way too much about him now from being on. Like I don't need to know that he's a Capricorn. Don't need to know that. I don't need to know his personal life at all. I'm not somebody that's like super into like, you know, stand behavior. But I know way too much about that man now from online. Well, one thing I do love about his story, a couple things that I really do love is he was the manifesting mama before I was the manifesting mom before Amanda on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills with the manifesting queen because- Oh, her courses? Yeah. Because, Because he wrote himself a check for $10 million, put the date on it. Yep.

And just like put it away. And like a few days before that day expired, the agent called and said, you're going to do this movie and they're paying you $10 million. That's sick. I love that. It is amazing. He's a manifesting mama. He's a manifesting mama. Get it, J.C.

I love it. He's very spiritual. I love that. He's on red carpet saying he's not real. that's fun. That's schizophrenia. I don't know. It's fun.

Who cares? I would also be like, I'm not real if I was that rich. I'd be like, I remember when he was dating Jenny McCarthy. Yeah, she's commented on my videos

and I'm like, this is a love triangle. I don't want to get involved in. They were together like four years. Yeah. And that was like kind of a juicy. When was that though? Like 10, 15?

I remember it was my early Chelsea lately days because Chelsea and she were close. Oh. And I was like on the road with Chelsea and they were like, going through something because she was being a good friend and like taking the phone. Yeah. And I was like, oh, are they like breaking up?

Like, you know what I mean? Like, you know when a girl is just like, hold on. And you're just like, okay. And then they did. They broke up. Yeah. But obviously she's definitely married to the right guy. Oh my God.

They could not be like more happy. Which one? What's his name? Bruce? Donnie. Donnie. I don't think there's a Bruce. There probably is one out there.

that just like runs a bank. I don't know. There's so many Walbergs. I can't keep track. They're like Baldwin's. Okay. So what was your like high school life like? Were you always make,

were you in the theater arts or no? No. I went to a private school in Florida. What kind of a private school? Like horrible. Like just sad. No, like non-a-nomination or Catholic. No, no.

It was, I think Catholic. I don't know. How do you, you know if it's Catholic or not? I think so. Well, I don't know the difference between Catholic and Christian. To be so honest. Well, do we, were their priests?

Were their priests? Was there, was Jesus? Was Jesus? on a cross and did he have good abs? Great abs. What's with that? You were at the Catholic school. I remember being like, that guy's fucking hot.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It was Catholic? Yes. Catholic. Yes. Otherwise Christian would not have,

that's the crucifix. They would just have a cross. Interesting. I didn't know that. I believe people will correct me. I believe from all my Catholic education being raised Catholic that the crucifix is synonymous. Ripped abs Jesus Catholic. Okay.

That really checks out because I remember every time it would be like eight paths. Yeah. I think this guy's ripped. Exactly. Yeah, so no public, like no public funding. So it was all like no arts programs. Oh, okay. It was real sad. My religion teacher had cerebral palsy.

Oh, really? She would tell she had half a brain and I'm like, we can make it up. It's fine. You don't need. This isn't math. And so she, um. Yeah, so it was fine. But I wasn't in theater. I always knew I wanted to do stand up though.

But I was chicken shit. Did you, when was the first, like, stand-up thing that you saw on TV or? I remember, like, Comedy Central, half, remember the half hour presents? Yes, I loved those. I watched those all the time. I know. I would watch them non-stop and just be like, I want to do that so bad. And I grew up on Jim Carrey movies.

So I really. And were your parents like, that's going to be you one day? Were they supportive of that dream? No. No, I don't, I don't, I think they just wanted me to have a stable job where I could make money. All they care about is just like, just please make money so that we don't have to, like, you know, bail you out in life. And what were they, like, middle class, upper middle class? upper middle class.

Yeah, I would say upper mid. Okay. But like frugal. Probably had more money that they let on. They're retired now. They retired rate at like 55. You know, so they're good.

And you're like, why are you living so good? You fuck. Why are you just like, I don't care. No, no, just kidding. I don't know. I wish I was bougie. Gosh.

Interesting that you, uh, yeah. Guys can now buy a second home. Why are we eating cheese and crackers for dinner, dad? Yeah. I mean, I think we can afford something better. Why were you acting like we were going to lose the house every month?

It was like that mentality of like we drive Toyota to Camry's and we have no money and it's like okay you're retiring on a beach right now you're fine I'm happy that they're good thank God I don't want you know my parents working as Walmart readers it's good that they're retired but yes um yeah so I always wanted to do stand up uh-huh I was two chicken shit and then I finally did it like a 25 in Orlando and tell me about your first time it was great um you know it was a sad open mic low stakes okay only comics in the room in Orlando had you prepared like had you been working I've been writing jokes for years so you kind of knew like this would be a good little five minute. Yeah. I mean, it was one liners. I was doing

one liners when I started. Uh-huh. Because it was like, you know, easy to just. And did you lead with, I look like Jim Carrey? No. Okay. I didn't do any of that. Okay. People would always tell me after shows when I started doing shows and stuff, they'd be like, you know who you look like. And when did you finally like lean in and know that and then realize I'm, I'm really funny, but this does help. COVID. Oh, okay. Talk about that. Everybody was bored making sourdough bread. Remember that? Yeah. God, we were depressed. Yeah, we were in the house. I don't know. made the sourdough bread. I didn't either. I was Tiger King and, you know, drinking. Me too. I did a Tiger King video. I acted like that weird lady and rode my bike around. Carol? Yeah. And I had a Bengal cat. I acted like the Bengal cat was like the tiger's. Yes, Carol Bastons. That was like the fun part of COVID. COVID season one was the best. The first season was unbelievable. We were all in it together. Everybody enjoyed the break. Yeah. Then it jumped a shark. We got to like, yeah, it totally jumped the shark. Like season three, it jumped the

I'm like, we're still doing masks outside. We can't do this. Yeah. But the first, that was the golden time. Yeah. That time where like all of a sudden, I like remember like I talked to my friend because it started March 20th. And yeah.

I talked to my friend just after Easter and she said, she was like whispering. And she's like, we saw another family for Easter. I go, what? She goes, yeah. Ramie couldn't take it. He's like, I have to see another family. Her husband. And I was like, oh my God.

It's illegal. Oh my God. I'd I go to my husband. I'm like, Newell and Rami saw another family at Easter. And my husband's like, I'd like to see another family.

And then we were like, and then people started to like fish. Yes. Like they started to fish. Like, it was almost like having an affair like, yes. Would you be down to me? Yeah.

Like and people are like, yeah. Yeah. Real discreet. Yeah. Yeah. I was in Florida, which was great because it was like,

after three hours, they were like, it's over. Yeah. They didn't even address it. If you wore a mask, you were called a gay. That was the craziest thing

that like, time where you lived. Oh yeah. I got caught smiling in a photo once during COVID and people were like, get out to their birded cast. Yeah. Yeah. I was like sorry that I smiled. Yeah. It was a different time in Florida. Yeah. And I think that the people that were really strict about it and like out to like get people ruined, they're like quiet now. Where are they at? Yeah. They're not like, I still believe. They're just kind of like, okay. Let's not talk about that. time. Yeah, it was a weird time. We were instacarting groceries and wiping them down.

I mean, what are we doing? I remember doing that once. And I was like, I'd rather just get sick. This is insane. I'm wet wiping my, you know, box of cereal. I can't do this. It's too much. Losing dignity. Okay. What a time. During COVID, I was bored. I said,

I'm going to get on TikTok, this weird app where children are dancing. Yeah. And I'm going to convince them. I was like, let me just see if I can convince them, because I always hear it. Now, how so now, let me see. So now at this point, you'd been doing stand-up like five years? Five-ish years, yep. And were you making any money at it? No, bar, you know, local shows I would feature here and there. You'd feature. That's good. But all in Florida where you lived. Yeah, so it was very, there's a ceiling. And what was your day job before COVID?

I would do, like, admin work and project management for, like, theme park companies. I worked at a desk that Casey Anthony worked at in Orlando. I opened the desk drawer my first day and there was a picture of a pregnant Casey Anthony with my boss. And I was like, what the fuck is this? And they were like, oh, she worked at that. desk. Isn't that nuts? It was her last job before the murder that she's off on. Innocent. Love Florida. I have another podcast called Juicy Crimes. And Casey Anthony is one of those.

That is like my top tier, like watched everything on it. You followed the whole story when it's happening in real time, watched the trial. I was in Orlando during that. So that was a job because was. That was the universal connection job. But then she also, I thought she never had. that job. She had access to Universal Studios through the company we worked at, but she didn't actually work Universal Studios. So that's where she brought them down that hallway. She had access

still. And then when she got to the end, she's like, all right, I don't actually work here. So it's like we had access because we were working with the theme parks. But at one time she did work there. She did work at that up. Yeah, she had this desk. Because we were a photo, it was like a Kodak kind of company. Oh, okay. So like theme park, roller coaster ride photos, basically. It was like the engineering for that. So. And did you go to? I asked the tea. I said, what's, you got to tell me. And they were like, number one, she lied about everything. Like, you could see her eat a salad at lunch and she'd tell you she had a hamburger.

Those kind of liars fascinate me. Just lied about everything. It's like a grifter liar, con woman, all that kind of stuff. Because I'm always like, why? What is the goal about lying about what you had for lunch? Even when people saw. Right. And then she wouldn't, she, for the first five months for a pregnancy, she told everybody

was a cyst. Isn't that crazy? They'd be like, you look, are you good? And she'd tell everybody who says, and then finally out like five months, she was like, all right, I'm pregnant. And they're like, we know. We know.

Isn't that wild? What is your theory of what happened? She murdered that baby. She took that baby's life. Yeah, I think I don't really know about any of the family dynamics. This is what I think. This is my theory of what happened.

She didn't want to be a mom. She's a Florida mom. I think, this is what I think. Here we go. You better not say. No. I don't think the dad had anything to do with it. No.

What I think happened was, I think that she accidentally gave her way too much Benadryl type of something. See, like for sleeping. And was like, if she could just sleep like longer than I can go do this thing. Yeah, like go out. And or maybe she'd done it before successfully. Yeah. Where she'd given her stuff, gone out, come back and she's fine. Left her at home alone.

Yeah. ever. That's what I always thought. Then when I watched that last thing that was kind of there was one that was like very much, you know, the thing about documentaries, especially crime ones,

they don't have to show both sides. No, I know. They edit it so that people watch it and there's new info. Yeah. And all of a sudden, then people are convinced. And all of a sudden, Rosie O'Donnell is like, I believe, like, Rosio Donald gets switched so quickly.

She's a little, she's like, you know, Eric and Lyle Menendez, I call him on the phone at the prison. And then she was like very pro Casey Anthony after watching Yes, after watching that she was like I knew it was the dad. This is like people who think Scott Peterson's innocent.

I can't do that. No, Heather. I don't think he's innocent. Thank God. I want to say, oh, there was just a news article that said they're not reopening. However, it is a very compelling

case because of the other similar things that were happening in that town. But there was so much evidence that proves that, you know, the lying and everything. And I've talked about him agnosticum. But I, but I am like, wow, there are a lot of things where there were other pregnant women missing and there were things like that. That could help with this defense. But my always thing is, even if you hate your wife and you weren't excited about the baby, how many people are like, oh my God, thanks God, kind of hoping she would die. She went missing. We don't know where she is. In the

meantime, let me reinstate my porn cable channel. Or go to Mexico with blonde hair. Yes. Well, that was later on. It was later. And it was because he was tired of people approaching him. No. No. And that $8,000 was from a car he sold. No, I know. These are all the stories. Oh, these are the stories. These are the defense. But the one, but really it was the porn cable. I didn't know that. Okay. So she's missing. He's, so she's missing. She's missing. Can't find her. And then he calls up the cable company and is like, can I reinstate.

the porn channel. It's very important to me. And I think it's these details that to me tell the story because I'm like, if you believed that somebody had kidnapped her, she broke her ankle in a ditch while taking the dog for a walk, we're going to find her. Wouldn't she just wait like a couple weeks? Because if she comes back tomorrow, you're going to have to cancel it and you're going to have to pay for the whole month. And you're going to have to explain to her that you signed up for porn while she was missing. But you're also going to pay for a month that you can get to enjoy. So you're pretty much hoping that at least she'll be gone for 30 days. Right.

So that you, there's $12 or whatever it was at the time, is a waste. And that was really, really what. That's a hard one to sell. That was a hard one. But also men don't think long term, I think. Right. Who knows? That's just a crazy, yeah, the Casey Anthony.

Yes. I don't know anybody, but. That's insane. Okay, so did you go to college? Yeah, so I went to, I was in Orlando. I went to UCF for a little. Did you enjoy it? No, I hated school.

Okay. I hate school. It's not for me. I always knew I was not, I wasn't going to be an engineer. Okay, so you've been doing it for five years. It's COVID and you decide what's like your first video that kind of like really popped off. Literally the first one I posted. Oh, you joined TikTok.

I joined TikTok. I posted a video saying, can you please help me find my father? He's abandoned me. You know, and I did this. And it's like, I was like, nobody's going to really. This will be fun. and it just blew up and everybody was in their house during COVID

losing their minds already. So now they're like, oh my God, Jim Carrey's abandoned a daughter. They believed it. Yes. And I had to walk it back because I was like, I'm not, I'm going to get sued.

This is going to be like Jim Carrey deadbeat father, you know. Okay. So I kind of walked it back a little. I had fun with it still with the lookalike stuff, but I kind of slowly just did my kind of comedy. Okay. Talking about, you know, celebrities

and kind of just, transitioning to that. Okay. Yeah, it was immediate. But I think it's, if I did it now, I don't know if it would have blown up as much. Everybody was in their house. Right. On TikTok, on social media.

Yeah. Timing there's a thing. And so then when you started to get a big following on social media, did it then, how did that propel like selling tickets and getting better gigs? So then I was like, okay, I done stand up. I had, you know, feature time. And I was like, I want a headline. Probably had like 40 good minutes.

And I was like, I'll just figure it out. In the first year, I was figuring. out how to get to an hour of like good material. But yeah, that helped. That helped like start, you know, I started just booking shows of my own. Going to clubs and, you know, a hometown and, you know, working on an hour and get, because I'd never headlined before. It's crazy.

That first time you're headlining, do you remember that? Well, I mean, I remember, like, the first time someone asked me to do 20 minutes. Yeah. And I didn't have 20 minutes. But I said, yes. Yeah, if you can do, you get like 1518. But I mean, you should never say no to the opportunity. Right.

No matter what it is. Unless you're. You will figure, I mean, unless someone's like saying, unless you're lying about being a surgeon and someone's like, can you do open heart surgery tomorrow and you're like a con man group, please don't do that. But if you're just like doing something like that and you, it is kind of above where your pay grade or whatever. Just go for it. Just go for it. Just know that you can like do it. Yeah, you got a strike.

Because if you say no, the opportunity, it might not come back again. So yeah, I remember going, will this be hard? But it wasn't. Because once you're like flowing. Right. And like, you know. Yeah. You're looking at the clock.

It wasn't ever like, oh my God, I'm only at, you know. And they also don't know. Like, I remember I would start. I would do 45. Yeah. That's my headlining set. Like, when I first started. Isn't that like the minimum?

That's the minimum. Yeah, you can do 45 to 60. I think after like an hour, you're like, all right. I've seen headliners do like an hour and a half, two hours. It's like, you're insane. Oh, people would do like three hours. Yeah. I can't.

That's like, now you're just masturbating. What are we doing? You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I started with 45 and just slowly became very comfortable with it. Now I'm like, you know, I do like an hour.

Yeah. It's fun. Sometimes if it sucks, though, I'm like, thank God it's 45. Good night. You know? You just have like, you're in Naples, Florida. Sorry, Naples. And what do you think that is?

Do you think it's based on you or the crowd? It's the vibe of the crowd. Yeah. And maybe I'm just have, yeah, they just don't connect. Like I'm saying Naples, Florida is just, it's not my kind of crowd. I don't know why they booked me. It's like very, everyone's almost dead there. Okay.

Very nice people, but I was bombing. Sometimes they just don't get it. They don't know gay. I'm like talking about prep. Yeah. What do they, you know? So I'm like teaching them about trans terms. It's like crazy.

They don't know. I barely know. This is not good. We're not learning. I was bombing so bad. I just started doing crowd work with old people. I'm like, what medication are you on? You know?

I'm just like, what blood thinners you got going on. But then they probably loved that. Yeah, they did. They couldn't hear. They thought I was probably Ellen. Who cares? It's fine. Yeah, but stuff like that.

Oh, wait. How do you feel about Ellen? Was she, someone that you enjoyed the comedy of or that you, like, connected with it all as a comedian? No, do you think anybody's connected with Ellen? No offense. Does she allow connection? I liked her here and now that first. I think it was like an HBO after she came back.

When she did the God talking to God and like, she did. I thought her style was like, like, I remember the first time I saw her, I had just started doing stand-up and I was like walking around UCLA and it was like, winner of the da-da-da-da. And I'm like, oh, you know, they were so. few women doing stand-up being back then that I was like, who's this pretty blonde girl? Like, how did she win? I didn't know anything about her.

And then when I started to see her stuff, I'm like, oh, her, you know, take, her cadence is so funny. Yeah. And then, you know, and then she had her first sitcom. Yeah. And then they changed it to, no, the first sitcom was like just my, these friends of mine. Oh.

And that didn't work. It was going to be just like, there was a time when everybody was trying to do friends. Right. So they're just like, let's just put everybody. and they have their quirky friends and they have their horny guy friend and they have their, you know, needy girlfriend. And so she was playing straight.

She was straight. Then they got rid of that and they called it Ellen. Okay. And then she had her friends. And then by like the fourth season was her coming out. I'm gay. Yeah. I'm gay.

Yeah. Do you do impressions? Yeah, I don't do a lot. I like Britney Spears is really fun to do. Yeah. We're just, it's just a quick, like, you know, like, whoa, holy shit. Like, I just like doing that real quick.

Gypsy Rose is very fun to impersonate. Let me see that. You know, when she'd be like, Ryan! Like, she's just crazy on line. The D-E's on fire! She's a crazy character. What do you think about her trajectory? Oh, my God, I love it.

I'm team gyps. I'm team gyps. She's fun. She's fun. I love her. She's like calling the paparazzi and wearing like a 2000 Irvay dress walking around. Yeah. Her daughter's name is insane. Aurora Urker?

If that kid has a speech of her, she's, impediment. She's fucked. She'll be like, awoka. Like, that sucks. What do you think about her plastic surgery glow up and her wigs? I love it. I hope they give her. They should make her housewife soon. I mean, I would love. I don't think enough people watched her reality show.

She had one? Yeah, I didn't even watch it. You're not even that good of a fan. Yeah, I don't even, I didn't know. But it was probably like a serious tone. Well, the first husband was the male version of her mother. Remember how much they looked like? Yes, the big hefty guy. So then once all the fun ended from her going, getting out of prison. Yeah.

You know, and she stopped doing all her interviews. Then they were back in, like, Louisiana and just going to like, whatever. No, we need to make her glamorous. Put her in fucking Beverly Hills. Yeah, she didn't like that. So then she got rid of him and she got back with the old boyfriend that she met in prison. Yeah. And then they had the baby.

And then they broke up. Aurora. And now I think she's probably like on Onlyfans or whatever. She's got to be an OF. And she got a nose job. She did? Yeah. God, I really have fallen off the Gypsy Roastrain.

I think everyone kind of has. I mean, yeah, because it's like, yeah. How long can it last? Yeah, there's got to be something more. We need something else. Like, sure. Go on Only fans. You'll do fine. There's enough people that still, like, probably would think that was interesting or whatever.

Yeah. With a voice like that, though, it's like any guy that's into that, it's a little creepy, right? That little baby voice. It's a little creepy. Yeah. It's really interesting that people, would you remember when everyone realized that Paris had a fake voice? Yes. I always knew that deep, that deep bitch was in there.

Like, hey, how you doing? That's a real voice. I think voices are so interesting. because I always said She sold it. Like a little kid that has a scratchy voice will work.

Yeah. They always like Lindsay Lohan, whatever. Yeah, the raspy voice ones. Scratchy voices. Also women that have a scratchy lower voice, they could be 100 pounds

and a model and they will be the lead detective. Like are we talking like an Emma? Like an Emma Stone voice? No, like there was this woman named Angie Harmon. Oh yeah. Yeah.

She was always like, I'm the detective here. And I'm always like, God, scratchy voice. I think I'd work more. And then... Sophie a detective. Yeah. And then there's the girls that like...

Yeah, like play a character to get a guide. I love it. I love that Paris did that. That's so... She's smart. Yeah. She was always like... It's hot. It's hot. Yeah. And then she'd be like, can I get a coffee? Yeah. Yeah, I love that. I love that switch. It's great. But does she still kind of does it. She does it and I think it's a little weird because it's like, we know,

girl. What is this... We know now. But it's your trademarked thing. Like, yeah. But I mean... Also, like genius successful. No, she's smart. I like her. Like, and how she figured out of everything. Yeah. Loved her and Nicole Richie and, you know.

And they had to go through some shit with, man. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, that's wild. Everyone just, yeah. It was a wild. That's insane that they dealt with that. I know.

They handled it. Like, I just saw a little clip of Hillary Swank. Yeah. And she was doing like a panel. and this woman asked her and said, I hope you don't mind me asking this. You know, I hope this is an okay question. And she's like, yeah, she goes,

I'm curious if you ever saw the episode of The Office where they were talking and debating whether you are an attractive woman or not. And her answer is weird. Her answer's kind of like, well, would you ever ask a man that? And I'm like, okay, so are you mad at the woman? Are you mad that the writers of, the office wrote that.

And she goes, because all the characters I play are beautiful. And I don't really think that was a good answer. What I would have wanted to hear is really like, yeah, actually, like, given the juicy scoop, actually I turned on the TV and I love the office and I watched it. And I was like, I can't believe they're talking about me, but oh, fuck, they're saying I'm ugly, but I have enough confidence to know. I'm not. I'm fucking gorgeous.

Or at least just be like, yeah, it was so funny. Or I was so hurt. Yeah. Like I just want to want to know what's the real. What was the real? that was no answer. That's a PR trained. Yeah.

Thing is because we've all had those moments where you're like, are my feelings hurt or have I gotten to a place of being comedian and in this thirst game that like, thanks for mentioning me. Right, right. Have I gotten to the other side? Right, right. Because I've gone like that with things. Yeah. Have you gone like that? Like where things would bother you or criticism would bother you and then you get to the other side or you're still not on the other side?

No, I never bothered me. I read every comment. I love it. I love it. It doesn't bother me because like, you know, especially. I deal with online. So it's not like I'm blogs or Reddit or, you know. It's just like online comments I'm seeing.

And you always click the profile of somebody who's leaving a shitty comment. And it's like somebody you don't respect. Like I'm, how am I going to get hurt by this guy? You know what I mean? Like if I saw him in the street, I wouldn't even notice him. So it doesn't bother me. It makes me laugh a little. Yeah.

No one's going to be critical of you that is. Somebody look up to probably. That is more successful, more attractive or more. It's never really hot people. Yeah. Or richer. Like no rich super attractive person who's super successful is going to be like, you know what?

I don't think that 30 second video was that funny. Yeah, this unfollow. Yeah, and I'm going to now spend this time writing this. Yeah. It's a miserable person activity. Right. And I even think like when there's something, when TMZ post something and you start to just read the comments out of curiosity.

Oh, yeah. What are those? And I'm like, this is not the temperature of America. No. Because America, most people, people have jobs. And they wouldn't, if they even saw the article, they wouldn't have time to go and comment. No, this is unemployed behavior. Yeah. This is like 45 living with mom behavior. You know? I always think down in the basement. I always say they're baby reindeer. Remember the show

Baby reindeer? That's who it is. Yeah, it's very like, oh, I miss that show, man. That was so good. That was a fun one. Baby reindeer. And then what I learned about baby reindeer, which is the show on Netflix where the guy, based on his true life, had a crazy female stalker. Scottish. But what was so interesting is when she lost interest in stalking him for a little bit. And he got a little bummed. And you got a little buff. Yeah, I would be like, come back, stalker.

He was a little sad. There is something flattering. I want a little stalk, stock, stock. About having a stalker. Scary. Have you had one? But in the beginning, no. Have you had any, like, none?

I had. Do you have weird fan? Like, I had this one person on my Facebook years. go. That would just write just like the same thing every time

which is like I really like your hair I really like your hair when you wear it like that well I basically have always had a side part and this is my hair for years so I never changed it

I wasn't someone so I was just like I don't know if he cut and pasted it or couldn't remember that he wrote the same thing the day before it was a guy and some people

were like this guy's scary like you should and I'm like I think that if I was to block him or that's going to, that's going to tip him over. Right now he's just leaving a comment.

Appease him. Just let him, let him do this thing. Like who cares, right? Yeah, when you piss him off. Yeah. That's when you start seeing, you know, dead rats in your mailbox or some shit. Right. Yeah. I think, but no, I think it's very real and I think, you know, it's really scary for some people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's good. Yeah. I mean, a little, a little stalker's fun. Nothing serious. And so you, okay, so then you start to pop off. You have. this big tour coming up. Oh yeah. I'm just always on the road. I'm always on the road. And then let's talk about how. That's my sister. Kentucky. Uh, just kidding. You have a gorgeous

wedding photo. Yes. Your wife is stunning. She is. She is. She's beautiful. Yeah. Great dress. And you're in a really cute suit. Thank you. I like your satin. Did you really get a No. It's very, it's because it's fitted and yeah. It's a shop. How did you meet? Tell me a little bit of your love story. We met on Instagram. Uh-huh. 20-21, you know. So you were already doing your videos. Yeah. She had, uh, yeah, she, she, she liked me. She didn't like my comedy. She's, she wasn't, she's not like a fan. She liked, she thought I didn't, you're fine. Your comedy's fine. You're kind of gross. So it wasn't like. So wait. So she just likes my aesthetic. So she slid into your DMs.

Slid into my DMs. And said what? She said, marry me. That was the first. That's what she led with. Manifesting. Talk about the most lesbian story I've ever heard. No. I mean, everyone always said, oh, second date is get to U-Haul. We'll slide in D.N. She was sending the U-Haul confirmation. And also true manifestation. True manifestation. I mean, you can say that when you look like that. Yeah, she's very pretty. You know what I mean? But her bio on Instagram said, UK law, so I thought she was in like Europe. Yeah. I thought she was British. Yeah. I was like, this is fun. Talk to a British lady. Cherio. Yeah. And then I realized, I learned that UK is University of Kentucky, which I did not know that existed. Okay.

So then I was like, oh, no, is she going to sound like a banjo? Okay. Like, you know, that accent. Yeah. But she's got a nice little twang. It's not too, not too thick. Thank God. That'd be a deal breaker if she sounded like a banjo.

Okay. So how far do you go from marry me on DM to like actually talking on a phone, past text? Talking on a phone or FaceTiming. Like a week in. Okay. A week of DMing maybe. I was in Austin at the time. Okay.

And so, yeah, we would face time. Living in Austin. Living in Austin. Yeah. And doing stand up, doing your thing. Doing stand up. Yep, yep. And at this point, your career is like on a nice rise. Yeah, and I wanted to start headlining. I wasn't headlining yet. Okay. So I was in Austin.

And so I was like... And what was your relationship status prior had? You had serious relationships with them? I would like date somebody for six months, maybe three weeks, maybe a year. Did you have to do like an official coming out party or for what? Tell your parents or anything or... No. No, I was second in line of the gays. Okay. We're all gay. I don't think any of us came out. I think they were like, yeah, we know. You're the siblings, you mean. Yeah, me and the siblings. Nobody really...

So your oldest sibling is a girl, too? Yeah, she's 40. Yeah, she's in her 40s, 45, so she's 90s lesbian. Okay. What's the difference between a 90s lesbian? Well, they were like rare. Like, they had to really fight oppression. Okay.

You know, when Glee came out, that's when it was cool to be gay. Remember they were like... Great point. Overturning gay marriage. Like, you could get gay married. Yes. Rosie was on the steps marrying people left and right. Next up, you know?

Right, right. Yeah. But like in the 90s, it was like, you know... Well, that's when Ellen. was like, yep, I'm gay. Yeah, remember when she came out? She got like banished. Yeah, and then she did kind of get banished.

And then she came back with her talk show about being nice. Right, which was like, I'd rather you just be a straight lady, go somewhere else. Now you're just a mean gay. You're waterboarding your staff. What are we doing? And it was crazy. I heard those rumors for years. So by the time it came out, it was like, yeah, we've, you've known this for like a decade at least.

I know. I've told this story on the show before, but I just think you'd appreciate it. I know someone who like was trying out for the job to either be a writer, work on staff something. Yeah. Okay. Behind the scenes. And it was like their second or third interview in person. And you know how she would always do like the scaring people and freaking.

And if this guest was like terrified of frogs, she'd have like a frog jump on. It's like. It's so mean. It's so fucking mean. And so anyway, the girl is like talking to her or whatever of the Canada. and the candidate like looks at these curtains and like sees the Ellen Tadde shoes like behind the curtain and she's kind of like she's giggling I was almost like a little kid like she's like should I like play along that she's gonna like pop out in an interview in an interview this is

what was told to me I did not live it I'm just telling you so um just for legal reasons allegedly allegedly and so then she you know had to like act scared and stuff because she wanted the job. Oh my God. She had to, yeah, scare herself into getting in the job. Oh, no. Oh, you're so good. You know, like your four-year-olds hiding. Where is Brandon? Yeah. That's so weird. And it wasn't fucking weird. It was just, yeah, like her kink. God, that is so weird. I know. Remember when she, like, hid behind a door and popped out at Taylor Swift? And she was at a heart attack at like 25? That's weird. It's just weird shit, man. You know, honestly, this is what women do. P. Diddy? Right. And she's like, when are we going to have a pizza party? How many talk of pizza?

I know. I'm like, tone it down. It's weird, though. I mean, like, you know, men in charge do weird stuff with women, and then women in charge just scare celebrities, I guess. I don't know. I mean, that's the worst and treat their staff like shit. Wild.

Okay, so getting back, so you meet. Where were we? Yeah. You're meeting your girlfriend. Yeah, so we had been talking for a few months. Yeah. And then we met up in Nashville. That's hot.

Yeah. New Year's Eve, hang out in Nashville. For your first date, it was New Year's Eve in Nashville? New Year's Eve weekend, yeah. We, like, hung out for three days in, like, an Airbnb. How fun was that? It was great. Yeah, because I was like, I think she's amazing.

You just got to be sure when you meet him. Yeah. There's not some weird mole or something, you know, they're not seeing. She was great. And then we started dating from there. And then I finally moved to Kentucky because she couldn't move.

She's in law school. Oh, she's in law school. Yeah, she was in law school. So I, you know. And now she's a full lawyer. Now she's a lawyer, yep. General counsel. Shout out. That's a big deal, I guess. Well, my sister's a lawyer, so it's hard. I feel your pain, sister. It's really hard. It's great for contracts. Yeah, yeah. But. And so.

Yeah, so now we've been in Kentucky since I moved there in 2022. And it looked like you had kind of a big, big wedding. Yeah, it was low key. It was like 80 people. I wasn't trying to feed random relatives. And how is her family? Did they help? Did they, like, who paid for the wedding? Split. Two women. You just go half in. And the parents didn't pay? No, parents helped out. Oh, okay. Parents, five bucks each side, uh, covered my suit.

Yeah, the parents helped out. You know, there was all very evenly split. Some things she cared about. Did you have bridesmaids? No, neither of us did. It wasn't, it was very non-traditional. Like, we didn't do public vows. Yeah.

I'm at, I just not, I don't want to look over and see my uncle as I'm like professing my love to my wife. You didn't. No. So how do you do it without any vows? You have the, the person who married us. Oh, you just did the traditional vows. Yeah.

You're saying you didn't write like, like, well, I will always make your milk milkshake. You know how you like your coffee in the morning. I got you, girl. Yeah, it was none of that. No, we did the traditional ones too. You did? Yeah, we did.

But just like the, you promised to not fuck her over. We got married in the Catholic Church and it was just the It was a long marriage, huh? Oh, you had the abs on Jesus on the wall. And then, you know, went over to Mary and like gave flowers and all that. You did all that? We did all right.

I have to do my first Catholic wedding this fall. We attend. Yes. Attend. Yeah, I'm not officiating. And have you asked them, is it a full mass? I think it is. It's an ordeal.

Like, there was a time where they said you can, you don't have to do full mass. We can do it in 30 minutes. And my mom was like, it doesn't count. So we did full mass. And it was air conditioned church, but it was a solid hour and a half. Hour and a half. An hour and I still want to, I still want to apologize to like everybody. Well, I, you know, I'm an actress.

I'm a comedian. I liked being on stage. Yeah, it was fine for you. It was like, I was like, it was weird because I always as a kid was like, why would someone be nervous on their wedding day? Like you're not performing. Like, that's not a big deal. But then right when I was about to walk down, I was like, this is so weird.

It's so weird. It's because you get one shot. It kind of feels like an audition or something. Yeah. You're like one shot. I have to be serious. I'm never serious. And then I had like the full like veil and everything.

And right before I went down, I put the thing over. and then my sister was like oh my god I don't think you should do that like you look so pretty like just do it and I go oh I just thought I would do this and that was like the one thing

that my husband later on said oh I was kind of disappointed I was like looking forward to doing that whole thing and I was like the lighting's rude the day's ruined like the one thing

I know I was like oh my god you didn't care about anything you could have just told me that you were like excited about avail like I would done it yeah yeah yeah

I'll never get that chance back have you done the vow renewal? Is that a thing that people do? We did. We did once in Cabo. Like we were on a Cove trip with some people and we were at a, and we all, there were four couples. Fun. We all did it. One couple did get divorced. But we, the other three couples are still together. That's fun. I, I, like the only way I would do it is if I was on Real Housewives and someone was paying for it. They always do it. Yeah, they always do it. Because I'm deep in O.C. right now.

So, yeah, so you're a late in life. I'm late in life. Real Housewives watcher, which I think is a gift. I know because I get to binge. If I could start all over again and people say, Heather, I'm about to start. Tell me, give me some guidance. And I would say O.C. and New York is, and Beverly Hills. Yeah, I haven't done Beverly yet.

No. Atlanta is really good. Atlanta from the very beginning. All of them from the very beginning. Any of them. If you've never watched. O.C. was rough in the beginning. The first, because it was the first one.

So it's a little. It's weird. It was truly more like a documentary. A documentary. And they weren't like getting into like really integrating with each other. Once Tamara got there and started stirring up shit.

Then it was like about their relationships with the other women. At that time it was just watching these five families or whatever. Which is still fascinating. Yes. I still liked it. 2006 in fucking Laguna Beach or wherever they are. And there's something like calming about it like from that era because you're watching

it and you're remembering your life. The sky tops? Yeah, sky tops. I remember the crash of 2008. Yeah. There's something like the fraud that was bubbling underneath an OC. Just everybody, house of cards. Very, very few people had actual money. It was all just once that economy crash.

You just saw Lynn Curtin crazy. Do you remember Lynn Curtin? I know Lynn Curtin. She's wonderful. I have a Lynn Curtin cuff. Oh, you do. I'm too. I'm too.

You know where Lynn Curran's daughter is today? Yes. It makes me so sad. I saw the video of her. her like no fingers. Failed. She lost her fingers too. She lost two things.

She lost two things to addiction. But they're like this. So she's just always rocking out. She's, I felt so bad. I think one daughter's doing okay. I feel so bad for Lynn because I mean, of course she is not when your kid is in that situation.

It's not like you can say come home. They don't want to come home because you won't allow them to drugs at home. It's a very tough love off the situation. Yeah, it's really rough. And I think that guy just dipped. I don't know where Frank. I don't know where the hell Frank went. Last I was seeing on Reddit, it was like, who knows where he is?

Cabo, I don't. And so. Yeah, so this old OC, man. So you're not currently watching anything? No, I am. I'm deep in OC. I'm in like season 12 and I started Rhode Island. So you're fresh on Rhode Island.

And what do you think of Rhode Island? I think it's fun. I'm getting there. I was surprised at the accents. I didn't realize Rhode Island had those accents. I know. She's the strongest. It's like Massachusetts kind of and also Jersey.

I don't know what it. I didn't realize, I have family in Rhode Island, but they're not from there. And I'm like, oh, I didn't realize they might have that northeastern, like, family guy accent. And, I mean, I'm dying over this podiatrist who's cheating. I know. I guess the podiatrist owns a Medi-Spaa, and the girl he's having the affair with is the esthetician. And she's like, in real time, like, posting, let the, they are like, fucking while they're filming the show. And the other cast members, like, um, she just posted that they were together while he said he had to go visit his

mother. Right, right, right. It is like amazing. And they all really know each other, which I really like. Yeah. Like they're very, they grew up together, most of them. It's very interesting, that kind of dynamic. Yeah. Because most, sometimes you're like, these women don't hang out. You know, and a lot of them don't. Yeah, now they probably do. So you're not on current Beverly Hills. No, I haven't started at all. I, yeah. Oh, you're going to, I can't wait to get to Kim Richards. When, oh my God, it is, there is a moment when Kim Richards, who's kooky. I don't have you ever. I've ever seen this clip, is making her famous chicken salad to serve her, the kids that are coming over for prom pictures later that night. Okay.

And there, she's, you know, on, she had, there's pills? Can't know. Kim Richards' life is so juicy. Yeah. Like, if someone said, what do you want for your birthday? I would say, I want to wake up and find out that on my birthday, June 14th, there is a documentary. or a scripted show on Kim Richards' life. Can we get it? I know.

She's child actor, right? Child actor. Yep. And then got, and really the mother, Kathy, was one of those mothers that was all about getting her daughters married to the richest men available in L.A. Okay. So she sought out like the old money in L.A.,

which there, I never even knew old money in L.A. existed because I grew up in the Valley. but she, they're in Beverly Hills so they found, you know, got her to date this one guy. Yeah. I'm thinking of all the different. So married a really rich guy

had like one child or something and then broke up with him and like married another really rich family. Davies, I can't remember all these different. And then like left it or was dating him but then like married his brother. Then she had another boyfriend that was the love of her life

who got shot in front of Brent's deli. Oh no. But it was like he was involved in a Ponzi scheme. Oh, no. And then I found out on a Cabo trip with a friend of mine, the real person that shot him and it's not part of the Ponzi scheme. Oh, no. And then there was, Jesus. And then she had this other guy.

And then she has like four kids. But then she had her alcohol struggles and her financial struggles. And right now she and Kyle are like suing each other. She's living in a condo. And then my favorite part is she's living in this rental in Westlake Village. And this very unattractive guy, she meets her mailbox. And that becomes her boyfriend. And Brandy Glanville is like, he looks like a, oh, God, this name, I can't remember.

Baltis, Mastiff, whatever, there's a dog. Yeah, yeah. What is the name of that dog? A Mastiff? Yes. Yeah. That dog. Yeah, yeah.

And he really did. Yeah. is all in the show. Oh, really? Yeah. And then she's like, you know, 48 at the time. And she sees Kyle at Banner Pump, you know, her Banner Pump restaurant. And she's like, I'm going to have another baby.

Yes. This is the audio. And Kyle's like, I'm going to have another baby. Yeah. Kim. Yeah. Yeah. She's like, Kim, no, you're not.

You know, and she's like, you're so my goddamn house. And she's like, I've done so much for you. And they are like no better time. And you have not. You're going to get to watch that. Yeah, I get to take it from the start. It's one of the last few because I'm putting off jersey too. But when she makes the chicken salad, she mixes it with her raw hands.

Of course. Raw chicken hands. And like her daughter's getting her hair done. And in the back, the camera zooms into her being like, this is just, this is my favorite chicken salad. This is my first chicken salad. And she seems fun. I feel bad for her. That makes sense that she's, she maybe turns to drugs and alcohol.

I would too. I love my life a shot. better, but I think in the meantime... It's rough. Bravo, Peacock, Netflix. Do me a favor. There is so much there. I know.

What she should do. Did she come in and out of Beverly Hills? This is what she needs to do, Kim Richards. You need to do it yourself. Say, I'm going to tell you how my whole story. You can collect all the photos. You're going to tell the whole story because I have such a juicy life story. Yeah. But I'm going to make money on it.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't care how bad it looks. I don't, I, because I want it to be a huge hit. Yeah. But she's not going to be able to do that until she's well. What's the narrative around her? Do people root for her? Yeah, because fans are rooting for her.

Yeah, she's, and she really was the child. So, like, Kathy worked a little bit. Yep. She was from a different father. Then she had, um, Kyle and Kim, who was a couple years older with this other guy. Yeah. So Kathy was like modeling and stuff. And then she got married to Hilton really.

Right. But then it was Kim that really worked all the time. And it was Kim who was like basically, you know, helping to support the whole family. And Kyle worked too, but like Kim. And then so then I think when Kyle became like the bigger star on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, I think there was this like little thing like I'm the star. Yeah. And did you ever see the very famous movie, whatever happened to Baby Jay?

No, I want to see it though I feel like there's a very similar storyline of like two sisters and one was a child star but then one was the more successful adult star Right, one worked their ass off and then one kind of...

As a kid but then didn't, wasn't as together because they were a child actor Yes, they probably are a little fucked up now and the other one who really wasn't a child actor is very level-headed successful which is Kyle Yeah, that's crazy. Kyle might be well she'd never come out

late in life Les. Yeah, what's going on? Or a little bye-bye? What's going on there? She was with Morgan Wade. I'm going to make you love me. You don't know about Morgan Wade. Is that a woman?

Yeah. You don't know about Morgan Wade. No, is it country music? Listen, this is such a good lesbian story. I don't care that you are behind on housewives, but you need to be up on lesbian housewives. I like to know, yeah. There's not many.

There's more and more every day. Ramona? Do you know Portia? Have you watched Atlanta? Oh, yeah, she's with a stud now. Yeah. But, you know, she's just, I don't know if I believe. No, she said, she goes, I always liked girls.

I had a little girlfriend when we were in first grade. And she was on my friend Carlis King's show and she said, like, we used to kiss each other by the tired. I always kind of liked that. I think she was like one of those girls that was married to dudes. Cordell was pretty feminine. What? Cordell? Yeah.

Oh, yeah, Cordell always had a rumors of being gay. He's all gay, allegedly. Yeah, he's a little guy guy. Yeah. She was his doll. You know what I mean? He just got to dress her up and control her. Yeah, I remember it was like, and she didn't get pregnant with him.

No, because you got to fuck. You know what I mean? I'm just saying. Yeah, so that's fun. She's got a, she's dating a woman. That's one gay, one gay housewife, a lot bisexuality. It's nice. Yeah.

Kyle, maybe a little bi. Yeah, but she's like, yeah, but she's like unapologetic and great and happy. and like so fun to watch. She's so fun to watch. And so gorgeous. And then, but Kyle, it's been this tiptoe thing where she put it out there. She brought her around. She did this sexy music video with Morgan.

Oh, is this a country singer? Yeah, she's very pretty. She's very tattooed. Okay. And then she brought her on the show. Oh. Everyone was made aware of she and her music, which she's talented. And then it was.

Then Kyle went and told all her castmates, don't bring up Morgan. She doesn't want to be talked about the show anymore. And I was like, oh, this is like a Matt Rife. I don't like my female fans anymore. I don't want the middle-aged white, straight housewife audience. I want real country or real, like, you know,

tattooed lesbian, edgy people to like me. Even though this really helped get you known. Right. So she's like, no, I want privacy. And then Kyle's like crying to Eric, Jane and she's like, I really, I had a relationship with this person who I really loved this person and this person really loved me, but this person didn't want to be in the public eye. So I had to end it with this person. What should I do, Erica? And then Erica's like,

I protect that person. Yeah. I'd protect that person with all my heart. And so she's never, but then she was like, I talked about it with my daughters. I said, you're going to see this in the news and I don't know how you feel. But she was basically tiptoeing around it because she's like, You're going to see people talking about me possibly being gay, but she never says I'm gay. She never says, I have a relationship with a woman. She just is like, I don't know, maybe it'll be Brad, maybe it'll be Angelina. And it's like, okay. Okay.

Bisexual Queen. So now, Morgan, who wanted privacy, is now just been cast as a bartender in the spinoff of Yellowstone called Dutton Ranch. Girl. And she's starting a podcast. So did she use Kyle? And she's starting a podcast. Of course.

The most private thing you can do is start. a podcast. Please don't look at me. Subscribe. About your mental health. The most intimate things about yourself. Yeah. Great. So does she use Kyle? Is that? I know. So Kyle has a house in Nashville and people have seen them hanging out and eating and stuff. Oh, so they were all, they were still doing. And then Kyle was going to do a documentary about her. So my theory was always, maybe they're not a couple. Maybe Kyle is just savvy enough. She is the aunt of Paris Hilton to use this to get people into Morgan Wade. And then maybe

she will make her to be the next Harry Underwood and she would have a stake in that. But that documentary never came out. Yeah, so then maybe not. Maybe they were really. I think they were romantic, but now they're just friends. Scissors sisters.

But maybe not. Yeah. But also as a May December relationship. Right. And that happens in West Indeville. Oh, 20 year. Morgan Wade is 80. I was always shocked about,

no, the other way around. You are joking, right? Yeah. Morgan Wade is like 30. Yeah. And Kyle's like 55. That's fun. That's great.

So I do want to ask about that. Because I was always so like, oh my God, about Holland Taylor and. I don't understand that, but I support it. What's her name? Sarah Paulson. Yes. It's very interesting. But when they first took up, she was already like 70s.

And Sarah was like barely 40. Yeah. Interesting. That's interesting. I mean, I think that the only ones that are like, a 30-year lesbian difference. Happens obviously a lot with gay men. Yeah, I've never seen a woman in her prime in her 40s be like,

I want that 70-year-old. That's interesting. So that's got to be real. Yeah. I mean, Holland Taylor's beautiful. But she's 70 or 80. Yeah. It's a lot.

Right. It's a lot of, you know, early dinners. I remember people were wondering if, like, I remember just seeing, like, videos that are people giving their theory of do you watch hacks? Yeah, love hacks. If the two leads and Hannah were... That'd be hot. I bet there's some fanfic out there about that.

About them having a relationship. Yeah, but isn't Gene Smart banging a dude? I just, I just think there is just like a mother-daughter love there. Yeah, yeah. Gene Smart's beautiful. I get it. She is beautiful. I know. I'm like, I get it. Yeah, and Hannah's beautiful and a great actress. I just think they just have a connection. They do. They do. It's great chemistry. Everyone on that cast is great chemistry.

So good. I love it. Did you see the last episode, the episode number four when she meets the Little Debbie's? Yes, at the convention, at the con. That episode was the, how real was that as a comedian?

Yes. That I never, my friend Guy Brandon was in it. Yeah, yeah. And he writes on the show, his episodes coming up in a couple weeks. And I called him, because I was literally like

every single line of that episode, every single thing that happened And that was so relatable. I know. They nail it. And that's why, because they have comics writing for that show. It's like they get it.

You know what I mean? Yeah. It was so good. The sad Comic-Con. Yeah. And how, like, she's disappointing people. Yeah, yeah. But then at the end she,

yeah, then she meets this woman who's like, my mom and I just connected over you. And then the, and she's like, I watched that. I cried. Yeah, when she was like, my mom wanted to see you. Yeah. But my mom passed. I was like, this is why we do this.

why we do this. I know. It's crazy. That's why we do this. Mean greets are wild. I thought this was so funny, your take on Drake, the rapper. I can't. I can't. Tell us the latest what's going on with Drake. Drake is corny and everyone's finding out. I've always stood by this. His music's fine, but he has a cornball, a Canadian rapper. That's like an Ohioan surfer. I can't. So yeah, he's got a new album coming out called Ice Man, which is just hard in this day and age.

Ice is having a hard branding. Yeah, why would you choose that? You're right. You know, it's a hard one to brand. And also not just ice and then, you know, with ice, but also just like, you know, you're always hearing how like the world is like losing our icebergs and stuff. Global warming. Like everything about it. Yeah. I think it might be a Toronto reference, like a Canadian reference. Maybe I'm not aware of. Like a hockey thing. Like there's a company called Iceman, I think. Somebody was saying, there's a company in Toronto called Iceman. I'm like, okay, I'm sure that's what he was doing. Okay. But yeah. So he probably. a giant block of ice, that thing. Okay. That just looks like, you know, a freezer. In New York? It's in Toronto. Oh, in Toronto.

And he put the release date on a piece of paper at the bottom. So he has to wait for it all to melt. Or he wanted crazy frat boys to take ice picks to it. And what happened with the... I think that both happened. I think white guys with boners about Drake, frat kids named, you know, Braden that are five foot six, showed up with Zins in their mouth and started breathing heavily on it until it melted.

His fans are corny, they're frat boys. You know, I don't, I'm team Kendrick always. I have met Drake. He's wonderful. At a Kardashian Christmas party. And I took a photo with my Drake and him. I like your Drake. He's white and fun.

Yeah, and he was, you know, obviously he's nice. Right at Christmas party. Like, he's going to be nice. He's not going to be like. He's not going to be a dick. Is he tall? Does he smell weird? No, he was like sitting and he was totally sweet.

and he was very nice. And then, but I always think, let's not forget that he was texting Bobby Millie Brown when she was like 11. And talking about like if you need any boyfriend advice, let me, girl, that's creepy. I don't ever want to text a teenager, especially about, you know, dating.

I don't buy it. I just know. He's weird. He's weird. It's like that thing. Like, you tell your kids. He's got fake abs too. No adult needs a child's help.

He's got the Jesus Christ abs. He's got the fake abs. Now, when you said, I saw that. Now, is that? Fake abs. Fake abs like he had like a chest plate on? No, it's like a surgery. He got like a contouring of his abs.

Oh, where they suck out the, where they can make divvits to make it for sure, though. Because you look at the picture and then look at his pecks. They don't match. Like if you had abs like that, you'd have also kind of some pets. You don't have like nothing upper and then all of a sudden you're ripped abs. Unless you're Jesus. So, yeah, you know, people have said that he's, you know, Kendrick alluded to it, B.B. L. Drizzy. You know, he likes, it's okay, but own up to it. You know, say you like plastic surgery. Right. Exactly. He's a good actor. I think that's what he's doing. He's cosplaying is a rapper.

And I saw that you, hold on. Get out this cough, please. Hold on. Oh, I was like, I'm stuck in my throat, sorry. It's okay. I'll fart in the mic. You know, I've never had COVID. Oh, my God. I've never. tried cocaine either. You never lived. That's why you never had it. You were in Florida. You'd pick it up real quick. Maybe leave that part in. Leave that. You can leave that whole coffee. You'll get COVID, baby. Coke and COVID Florida joke, triple header joke. Leave that one in. Heather, feather.

Did anyone ever call you Heather Feather? Or light as a feather? But you can tell me the weather. You wear pleather. Yeah. Yes. Pleather, leather. Yeah. Heather, Heather. Did you ever, you're younger than I am, but did you ever see leather Tuscadero? No, what's that?

She was like this girl on Happy Days and then, yeah, and there's just all the heathers. Yeah, you get all the Heather references. Heather Lucklier, Heather Thomas. Locklear was the only Heather I knew. She's great. Yeah, she seems great. Do you know that she's dating Lorenzo Llamas? Who the fuck is that?

They're just both, they're both like in their early 60s, and they both were like the hottest. stars in the 80s and 90s. Yes, he's been married like seven times, but he's like very good looking. And he had a reality show called Are You Hot? This sounds familiar. Horrible. And he would take a laser and the girl would have to come out like a pageant and a bikini. And there'd be a panel like American Idol. And then he would take a red laser to show like that she's not hot because there's like a dimple in her. Sounds great. It sounds promising. Why didn't this show get picked up for 85 seasons? Are you hot featuring Lamos? All right. Last. topic before we wrap it up. Yes, I'm gay.

Whose side are you on, Alex Cooper, Alex Earle? And what do you think is going on there? Let me get your take. I don't give a shit. It's team power money versus team influencer doing Coke. I mean, I hope they both have fun. I hope it's for PR, to be honest. It's not. I don't think it is. I don't think any of those are for PR. I thought it would be. I never think two people get together. And I think like YouTubers back in the day would like date and stuff for something like that. Celebrity Beef? But this is not that. Well, I just think, like, if you have an unwell network and you're so successful, why would you meddle with this shit?

Like, why wouldn't you just be above it? I don't understand. Well, some people think that she did address it, Alex Cooper, because she knew the article about her husband coming out. And she kind of wanted to distract from that. I'm going to go with Team Earl just because she seems. I've heard she's nicer. Yes. I've heard she's nice.

She likes her Molly. Who doesn't? But she's nicer. Allegedly. Yeah, allegedly. I mean. I just don't know. I just don't want to.

Yeah. And then Cooper just seems like a fame, like money, hungry, power hungry. Her husband's a tyrant. I, I don't like that energy. It's like, we all poop. Yeah. You know what I mean? When people see themselves seriously, I'm like, please.

You shit. It's fine. Right? You know what I'm saying? Let's go back. Let's go. So you have your, tell everybody where they can see you and follow all your stuff and your live shows. So you've got the, they can watch.

Your show in May. Special comes out. Yeah. On my YouTube, Heather Shaw Comedy, May 14th. It's called All Right See ya. I'm always on the road. So just go to Heathershawcom. Yeah, you're going to be in Boston, Nashville. Bakersfield. That's California. That's this weekend. I'm dying. I have to go to Bakersfield. Will I survive? Well, this will already have been there before this airs. This is air after that. Baker shows is beautiful. You know what's the number one murder? It's like got a lot of homicides. Great. I'm going to kill. I interviewed this girl who was reporter and all she wanted to do was be a crime reporter and so someone said then you should work in baker's field and so she did and she's really pretty blonde yeah she got hell yeah found a

triple murder and did a whole podcast about it yeah baker'sfield baby it was a fun time thanks for having me guys love your meth then you go okay then you have yeah we got texas wait you're coming up okay we have fort worth texas dayton sincyish area kansas yeah i'm hitting up all the hot spots in america as you can tell. Oh, Phoenix. Phoenix in August. What's worse? I'm gonna melt. I know what though? I know. But if you like Caitlin Jenner under the sun, but. But, oh, the sun is hot. I love the Caitlin voice. It's so fun to do. Ah, Donald. It's a marker with the M marker. You know that? Wait, I have to tell you a funny story. So, Caitlin Belonged Caitlin. Caitlin belongs to my country club. Yes, I love that. And I

piloted her helicopter. I had Lala Kent and Amber, do you know, Lala Kent is from Vanderpump? She's not familiar. Yeah. And Amber, which is amazing, they both were, they both were the, had the same baby daddy. Yeah, they're like best friends. Great.

And do a podcast and they're both gorgeous actresses. Hell yeah. And my son just was like, I don't understand how they ended up with that guy. And I'm like, I'm like, you don't understand women just want a guy who likes them. Yeah, exactly. You just love them, bloodbond them and give them a time. compliments. We're like, I guess you are my soul made. Yeah, take notes, Drake. We're not, like, we're not picking. Yeah, it literally is just that. Yeah. Anyway. Just love bomb them.

So I was telling some story about Caitlin Jenner and I turned the corner and I'm in the golf cart where you can hear and there was Caitlin. And I go, I go something Jenner and I go, you know, Brody Jenner and Brody Jenner. I was talking about Brandon and Brody Jenner. Yeah. Who used to be on Princess of Malibu that Spencer Pratt like put together and produced. And I'm talking about that and I go, you know, and I'm saying the word Jenner, and I literally turn and they were like, oh my God, there's a kid. How are you on a lady's doing?

I love it. She's fun. I like her. The Phoenix people will want to go and be in an air-conditioned place. Yeah, that's true. It is inside of AC. Where is that? Do you know? Yeah, it's at Mike Drop, Mania. It's a comedy club. Oklahoma City. I mean, you're doing it all.

Long Island. D.C. That'll be nice. Yep. Adding shows, too. So we'll add some shows in there. Amazing. Yeah, it's fun. I go all over. But your wife doesn't go with you. Only to city she wants to and nothing up there is something she'd go to. That's every comedy spouse. Yeah. In the beginning.

In the beginning, they go. Yeah, no. She's never been like that. She hates it. Yeah. It's a lot of, it's just, you're just in a hotel for two days and then you're at a club. It's not that, you're not doing a lot. I remember my good friend who was a comedian with me.

She wanted to break up with her guy. And, you know, and I was like, well, you should. Yeah. Like, you're not married. You don't have kids. Like, you know, whatever. And then she goes, but who's going to want to see my act over and over again? I go, why does the boyfriend have to go?

The audience. Yeah. Yeah. It gives the shit. I don't want my wife to watch my act. I'm like, you've heard this. You get it. You've heard my impression of Caitlin Jenner.

You don't, you stay home. She doesn't need to see this again. She doesn't even like it. She's like, I think you're hot, but your comedy's insane. But does she laugh all day with you? Yeah, we have fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we definitely have fun.

She's funny. I think you're fun. Thank you. I had a lot of fun with another Heather. And I, Heather's for Heather's, keeping us funny for generations to come. It's going to be my new thing. Keep Heather's alive. Thank you for having me.

And I'm so glad you came. Yeah, I'm glad I'm going to be here. It's great. And it's, is your name just at Heather Shaw where can everyone put? Heather Shaw is kidding on Instagram, but yeah, just type of Heather Shaw. You'll see it. She's a ton of followers and she posts really great funny takes, son of things. Thanks.

Thanks. Bye. Appreciate it.