Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Hollywood Friendships and Real Housewives Scandal

Episode Date: October 29, 2024

If you have subscribed for EXTRA JUICY SCOOP, Click on this link: https://zc.vg/4eF8F Seth Rogen and James Franco are no longer friends and I know why. Hugh Jackman has a new love, and she is a woman.... The Real Housewives of OC are determined to bring up every awful rumor on camera. Is it time to hire a cyber detective on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City? Chris Brown has a documentary that reminds us of how awful he is. And why it’s hard for Jen Aniston that Courteney Cox is still friends with Brad Pitt and his new girlfriend. Stand Up Tickets and info: https://heathermcdonald.net/ Shop Juicy Scoop Merch https://juicyscoopshop.com  Get EXTRA Juicy on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop  Follow Me on Social Media: Instagram: https://www/instagram.com/heathermcdonald  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald  Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Heather McDonald has got the Juicy Scoop. When you're on the road, when you're on the go, Juicy Scoop is the show to know. She talks Hollywood tales, her real life Mr. Safe and Serial Data, and Serial Sister. You'll be addicted and addicted fast to the number one tabloid real life podcast. Listen in, listen up. Heather McDonald, Juicy Scoop.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. So much to get through. This is gonna be lots of fun, hot topics, juicy stuff for you. First of all, I'm wearing my Oregon sweatshirt. I had such a great time in Oregon celebrating with Parents Weekend with my two boys. Drake came down from Arizona, ASU, and got to see the beautiful campus of the Ducks where my other son Brandon goes.
Starting point is 00:01:01 So we had a lot of fun, went to the game, went to the Nordstrom's rack, enjoyed that free sales tax. And, you know, as we were leaving, I just need to tell the story because we talked about scams recently. And this happened to a fellow MotherDucker. Yes, I'm part of my first mother's texting group. That is the first time I've ever been part of a mom group. And I've been a mom for 25 years. And I'm part of this mother-decker group that they're all moms at Oregon and they're really pretty fun.
Starting point is 00:01:36 And they made me a bracelet. I'm part of the whole thing. Anyway, so, but first I just wanna say, so we're getting on our flight and we're on this airline called Avello. And it's only a two-hour flight from Burbank Airport to Eugene. And so it's really convenient, but they don't fly that often. And because it's so like inexpensive, you have to like pay for every bag and you can't
Starting point is 00:02:02 bring on a carry-on. I don't even know what the rules are. So you know, Peter made us share a bag, which is fine. It was fine. But then we shopped at the Nordstrom's rack with the tax free. And luckily he brought another duffel bag. And you know, he wanted me to carry that to this big long duffel bag onto the plane as the carry-on or what I don't even know what to deal with.
Starting point is 00:02:24 But at the last minute, somebody just spoke to me, which was God and said, you know what, Heather, now, like you do pretty well in life. You're checking in this bag. It's way too weird of a size for a carry-on. And I'm like, and I'm afraid that I'm going to like, people are going to recognize me or something. And they're going to see me as I walk down the aisle with this big red duffel bag. And it's going to be like hitting people's heads and you know someone will make a TikTok about what a rude asshole I was. So I'm like no Peter I'm putting down the card I'm paying the $65 to check this this bag and you know kind of laughed we got on with our lives. Only to wake up to today's MotherDucker text thing. And one of the MotherDuckers said,
Starting point is 00:03:08 oh, yes, everyone's like, we had such a great time. What a fun weekend visiting our kids. And then one of them said, tell what happened to me. I'm not going to say the airline or anything, because maybe she wants some anonymity. But she was on also somewhat of an inexpensive airline. Oh, by the way, the Avello airline, they don't serve any drinks, no snacks. There's no first class or anything. You know, you can fill up your water anywhere now. So that's kind of nice before you get on the plane. But there are these little bottles of water and if you like go to the bathroom, there's like four available for the plane and you just have to grab those before. Anyway, the flight is like less than
Starting point is 00:03:53 two hours. And I just want to say, I think it's kind of great. Nobody, people aren't going to the bathroom as much because they didn't have anything to eat or drink. It's probably an easier cleanup. The flight attendants probably have an easier experience. It really was fun. But anyway, so just make sure you have some water and like a snack. Anyway, so this mother ducker wrote me and said, everything was great until I was getting off the plane
Starting point is 00:04:21 and I was pulling down my carry-on, and this 65-year-old man around that went, oh my God, you hit me, you hit me with your bag. And then he flings himself across three empty seats and screaming, you gave me a concussion. And this woman was like, you know, writing us, and she's like, I was just like, what? There's no way I hit you that hard. And so it was clearly another one of these scammers that's happening where people are like, you know, sometimes you see it like on cameras and stuff where someone's like, literally someone's like, oh, excuse me.
Starting point is 00:05:00 And then they like throw themselves down or they throw themselves in front of a car, literally jump on a car and act like you hit them. I mean, it's out of control. So this woman was very nervous about it, was like, what is going on? And luckily, the other passengers and the flight attendants were like very nice. So she was not detained, nor arrested or anything like that. But I'm like, you know what? I knew I did the right thing by checking in that bag because I don't know. I like to check in bags now for that exact reason.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Also, if you, if it's heavy and you can't, and you don't have the physical strength to like lift it up over the flight attendants legally they are not supposed to help you. And then if you're asking another stranger to help you, you just don't know who that stranger is. You don't know if you're going to ask him to lift up the bag for you. And then he's like, Oh my God, my arm, my shoulder is screwed up now because your bag was too heavy. And so anyway, that's my travel tip.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Had a great time. The Oregon Ducks won and. Had a great time. The Oregon Ducks won and we had a great time. And now my next trip is I'm gonna be in Irvine, you guys. I will be in Irvine, California, November 8th and 9th, 7.30 and 9.30. Those are standup shows with the hilarious Julie Goldman joining for the standup.
Starting point is 00:06:19 And then a no-holds bar, live Juicy Scoop where there have been topics, there's been stories, there's been things that have been saving just for the live show. It's gonna be some fun shit talk, gossip, hilarity. That is Sunday, November 10th. This is not gonna be streamed,
Starting point is 00:06:40 this is not gonna be recorded, this is never gonna be heard except in the improv. So that is why you wanna go so you can be privy to the fun juicy scoop. That's all at HeatherRichterHalland.net. Now let me remind you guys, if you are part of the Apple paid subscription, click on the link in the Apple description of this episode, okay? And then we will send you the information that you need to cancel and then resubscribe to my own personal channel here.
Starting point is 00:07:12 That is to ensure that you get everything you deserve and that there isn't any kind of screw up and you miss no content, okay? So that is what you do. Click on that link, which is right here in the description of this particular episode under the Apple subscription. Okay? So now, this was kind of a beautiful moment at Caesar's Palace. Adele was going through and singing her song. There's one song while we were young that she sings. I've seen tons of video, I've only seen Adele once and it was many years ago at the Beacon Theater
Starting point is 00:07:50 and I barely knew like two of her songs and I was like this is amazing. I've been trying to go to the show ever since and have not been able to and now she's announced it's ending for a while so I don't know. I'm manifesting that somehow it's going to work out on a weekend that I'm free to go. So she's walking through and she sees Celine, who I guess is doing better now because there's talk that she's going to also return to Las Vegas. I don't know if she'll be returning back to Caesar's. It'd be quite a coup if she went to a different casino. But they saw each other and they hugged and, you know, and page six captured the moment and a lot of people captured the moment and very lovely. Of course, you'd probably say that Celine was a huge influencer
Starting point is 00:08:32 in her life, clearly not as much as Beyonce, but just as long as after she hugged Celine, she also made a point in talking because I know she likes to talk a lot. I don't know what she said, but I'm hoping she said, Celine is here, but I also want to thank Beyonce for my career as well. Let's just hope that she said that. Okay. So that was a fun thing that happened over the weekend. Now, this is a juicy relationship, new Hollywood relationship that's been in the news for about the past
Starting point is 00:09:06 week. Sutton Foster, who I really wasn't aware of the name. I was like, is she one of David Foster's daughters? I didn't really know. But she is the star of the very popular show Younger, which is one of the shows that I think I'd probably love. I just have never seen it. She's also a very good singer, big Broadway star. And she co-starred in the Music Man on Broadway with Hugh Jackman. And now they are saying they are absolutely a couple. She has recently filed for divorce.
Starting point is 00:09:37 So she is, you know, not 100% single, but on her way to, you know, being divorced. And they did this show together, she and Hugh Jackman, like a year and a half, two years ago or something like that. And now it's coming out that insiders are saying that his now wife, ex-wife, that she had suspicions. But hopefully there was maybe some chemistry and hopefully he did the classy thing and there was no cheating behind anyone's back while they were married. They ended the marriage and now he is going on to supposedly have this full-on relationship
Starting point is 00:10:15 with her and they're like the insiders are saying they are in love. They're a couple all of this. They're both song and dance people as well as actors. And I find this like a very juicy for many reasons. Hugh Jackman is a song and dance man, but he's also like Wolverine, you know. But he married a woman like 10 years, 10 or 12 years older than himself. And there were always just rumors like, is he gay? Is Hugh Jackman gay?
Starting point is 00:10:44 And I think it was just because he could like sing and dance, but then also just having a wife that was a little bit older. I don't know why those two together just made people think, hmm. Also, they have two kids, but they were adopted. So sometimes I'd be like, yeah, because he's not having sex with her. Who knows the reason? You know, whatever. Those kids are 23 and 18 now. But anyway, now I feel like, wow, this really kind of proves that all those rumors and all that chatter was just that. I mean, it's really not true. This is, they had a nice marriage. It lasted for a really long time until it didn't. And now he's in love with this girl
Starting point is 00:11:21 who, I don't know their age difference, but they look good together. I assume they're probably within like a 10 year age range and being a little older, but nothing like crazy. He's not like dating a 25 year old or anything. And there you go. They're a new hot couple to watch. Okay, some fun things that also happened over the weekend besides my fun weekend.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Timothy Chalamet showed up at this park in New York City because there was like a fun Timothy Chalamet lookalike thing going on. And I guess he heard about it and he showed up. And I guess all these young guys looked like him. I'm just imagining a lot of like very thin pale wrists on men. But anyway, he seems to, that was a big delight to all these
Starting point is 00:12:07 people. However, they didn't have a permit. So police were called. And one person was like got a citation or something, which is just weird. But you know, I don't know, it just seems like you could do other things in the city. And nobody follows up. But this one, they wanted to shut down some Timothée Chalamet fun. Now, apparently he's still dating Kylie. I kind of love that we don't hear about it. It appears to be a real relationship. He's another one that because of his first movie being Say My Name about a young man who of his first movie being, Say My Name, about a young man who fell in love with Armie Hammer, who was like 36 and he was 16. Again, nobody had a problem with that, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:54 inappropriate kid underage in that movie. But anyway, it's a good movie. But I think that they are like a real couple, and I think that she, Kylie, as big as she is, is probably the person in that family that likes to keep her life a little bit private. But then when she needs to go out and get the photos and you know take hot photos, she's like into it. But I don't know, I think this is a real thing. But I kind of like that we don't know that much about
Starting point is 00:13:24 it. I don't know that he's ever made a real thing, but I kind of like that we don't know that much about it. I don't know that he's ever made one appearance on Keeping Up. Must be killing Chris. Oh, by the way, Chris also got a lot of, Chris Jenner got a lot of moments this weekend where people were posting how she, there was like a cousin's little party for all the grandkids, like a trick or treat party. And she showed up as Snow White. And she looked so young and fabulous and thin. And she was just wearing one of those like sexy Snow White
Starting point is 00:13:52 outfits, probably from like trashy lingerie, which are quite expensive. I in fact borrowed from Kris Jenner years ago, her Wonder Woman one, which was so good. And at the time to buy that was like several hundred dollars. So that was like, I was like, oh, I can't imagine spending this much on a Halloween costume. And anyway, she rocked it and she looked great, but I think people were like, oh my God, what is she doing? But that's Chris, she's always been like that.
Starting point is 00:14:18 And she's always had a ton of like really good costumes, probably from Trashy Lingerie. So there you are. Okay, also this article came out about why James Franco and Seth Rogen ended their friendship. And basically, James Franco was like, you know, there were, he had assault charges and lawsuits and things coming at him during the Me Too. And basically Seth Rogen was not there to defend him or stand by him or say, this is my friend, I don't care. He just, it sounds to me, kind of ghosted him.
Starting point is 00:14:57 I don't think that's a terrible idea in Seth Rogen's world. Maybe it is 100% because James Franco was on the wrong side of the news when it came to the Me Too scandal. However, what we don't know just like a marriage, just like in a marriage, someone might be like, oh, it ended because I cheated. It's like, no, it ended. Yeah, you cheated, but it was like the 10th thing. And that was my final like, okay, I can't forgive this. So we don't really know what went on in this 20-year friendship. Sure, they did these great movies together.
Starting point is 00:15:29 They had this great fun. But Seth Rogen might have been like, you know what, I'm kinda on the, I'm over this. And this was the cherry on the shit cake I needed to realize that this friendship is completed. It is okay. I don't wish him any harm. I wish him well, but like, I just want to step back.
Starting point is 00:15:48 And then just like a romantic relationship, sometimes you miss the person, but sometimes you don't. Sometimes friendships can end. And I know it's always fascinating when it's people that were friends that are public figure who are no longer friends. And I too wonder about friendships I've talked about in the show.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Why did it end between Kelly Ripa and Jerry Seinfeld's wife? What was it? And we're never gonna totally know. And if you put both of those people alone in a room, they might have different reasons to why it ended and they might be completely fine why it ended, or one might be like, I'm really sad.
Starting point is 00:16:23 I would love to get back there. Who knows? Life is long, and just like people don't stay married to someone their whole life, I always think it's so interesting that when someone ends a relationship with their spouse, the father of their child, there are three children who they were married to
Starting point is 00:16:41 for 25 years, everybody's like, you go girl, good for you. You're brave. Kick him to the curb. You did what was best for you, which all could be true. But then those same women are so like invested in why two women stop being friends. Like they need to know every little detail,
Starting point is 00:17:04 why, whose fault it was, what was it. And it's like, sometimes it just is. It just is. Friends are here for a reason, sees it a lifetime, or when they get accused of a B2 situation. There you go. That's Hollywood. Also on the friendship topic, this came from In Touch Weekly. Jennifer Aniston, allegedly, is hurt by Friends co-star Courtney Cox friendship with Brad Pitt. So according to this article, you know, Courtney Cox, obviously they've been friends for a long time, well over 30 years
Starting point is 00:17:39 from when they were on Friends together. Brad Pitt guest starred on Friends, and then he and Jennifer fell in love and got married. And then he started cheating on Jennifer Aniston with his co-star from Mr. and Mrs. Smith, Angelina Jolie. They had an affair and then they got divorced and he married her in Richie. They had six kids together basically
Starting point is 00:18:00 and now she hates him and they're getting divorced. However, she looks to be dating someone new, so that's good. Anyway, he's got a new girlfriend who's like barely 30 and he's like 62 or something, looking like he's 25 with a real good snatched face. Still cute as can be. So he is also friends with her man, Courtney Cox's man. And supposedly she's talking to him and they're doing couple-y
Starting point is 00:18:27 things together. And Jennifer is not thrilled with it, but she's too classy and has too much pride to say, hey, Court, really? Like, it's kind of fucking bothering me. I know we've... And then Court could be like, come on, Jennifer, you have been divorced for 15 years. Like really? My husband or boyfriend get along with Brad. The girlfriend's really cool. I like her jewelry. You know, the girl has like a jewelry line or something.
Starting point is 00:18:56 And Jennifer's like, no, it's fine. You're right. You're right. It's been so long. And oh, who am I to care if you and Brad want to get a margarita together? And I don't even care if you and this new chick want to do the downward dog and yoga. And it's, you know what? It just sort of bugged. It kind of bugged when I heard Heather McDonald talk about it on Juicy Scoop. I was like, oh, that is annoying. I think it's only really annoying if like, Courtney, this is my advice to you.
Starting point is 00:19:26 You wanna please your new man, he wants to smoke cigars or whatever with Brad Pitt. Don't post about it. Maybe plan the get togethers when you know Jennifer Aniston is in Cabo having a margarita herself. Or, you know, like just don't do it when it could be that she could be home alone and then she has to be like, Hey, court, want to come over and just watch a marathon of tell me lies and laugh?
Starting point is 00:19:53 No, that's then that would suck to go. Actually, I can't, Jen, because I'm meeting your ex-husband and his new 30 year old girlfriend. And the four of us are going to go to Craig's and take paparazzi pictures after. So like that's when it's not cool. But that's what happens. People break up. And one of my favorite scenes from the made-for-TV movie of Betty Broderick, a woman scorned, starring Meredith Baxter-Burney, is when she is working at the art gallery because she had to get a job because Dan has completely fucked her after he started dating a teenager.
Starting point is 00:20:32 And she picks up the phone to call her friend of 20 years, she takes off her earring, her clip earring, so 80s, and is like, hey, happy birthday. Where are we going for lunch? And she's like, oh, I'm so busy, Betty. I haven't had time. No, happy birthday. Where are we going for lunch? And she's like, oh, I'm so I'm so busy Brett Betty I haven't had time. No, come on every year. I've taken you to I take you to lunch. Where are we going? I would like was thinking the top the colonnade room, whatever Betty I have to be honest with you Joe and I have been social
Starting point is 00:21:02 with Dan and his new wife, Linda. And it's just, he got to you too. He got to you too. There have been times I've definitely related to Betty Broderick, where I feel like a former friend has gotten to all of my friends and that's it. They won them in the divorce and I wasn't even romantic with this person.
Starting point is 00:21:26 And you just have to go, okay. You don't buy a gun and go over and kill them in the middle of their sleep. Okay, you just say, okay, I'm gonna go find some new friends. So that's my advice to everybody. Okay, this was really interesting. This is a UCLA study done where it says
Starting point is 00:21:44 teens wanna see less sex and more friendship in movies, TV shows. So basically they're saying these kids would, they love fantasy and all that kind of stuff, but they'd also like to see some real movies representing themselves that is not all about sex. Now I think of like the euphoria being such a hit. I don't know if that's coming back what happened. It took the big break during COVID. But I mean, that was so much sex, all different kinds of sex, sex I didn't even know existed, all, everything, but juicy.
Starting point is 00:22:17 With teenagers, and I guess they're like yearning for the shows that I said existed when we, like yearning for the shows that I said existed when we, you know, our movies were pretty and pink and there was romance, but it wasn't these really graphic sexual scenes and you know, there was just, they liked each other and wanted to take each other's to prom and whatever. And so anyway, that's really interesting. And I really hope that, oh, there was a little good news that came out of California that they're gonna give a larger tax break to the productions here going forward if this bill gets passed that our governor Gavin Newsom has proposed, so that's good.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Still nowhere close to other states, but at least better than what we have right now. So that's good. But in doing that, I really hope that we get some movies that like Gen Z and Gen Alpha can get into and enjoy the way we did. That's not all about like robots flying or euphoria. Because there's a lot of sex going on in the movies
Starting point is 00:23:22 that I like to watch and I'm okay with that. There's a new movie that Nicole Kidman is in and She I saw this article everywhere that she said I have to just stop having orgasms while filming the sex scenes In this movie that she's filming. So I assume that while they are Simulating sex on film and there's a full soundstage and crew members and people like eating craft services. I think what I read from this, what I gathered from this article is that she is in fact having multiple orgasms while filming this scene.
Starting point is 00:23:57 And it's about her being like a powerful CEO and she is screwing one of her male interns. And there have been a lot of movies lately about an older woman and a younger man that just cannot get enough of her body. I just saw one on Netflix was like a limited series where a woman is like 60 and the guy is like 25. I downloaded, I haven't watched it yet. Then there is the Laura Dern one, which is like an eat, pray, love, but with Laura Dern
Starting point is 00:24:26 and she goes on a trip and meets some young stallion. And you know, it's all like cool. I just, it's sort of been a lot of movies like that. But I'm down to see it. And I also just think there's something like the, it is kind of smart because there's women that want to see this and see this kind of sex and everything. And we like it because we're of like that age. But like, if it was like a 60 year old man,
Starting point is 00:24:58 that if it was from his point of view, and finally like, you know, his wife's not giving him the attention that he needs and he's just powerful CEO. He's like, you know what? I am going to get laid well with this young girl that worked for me. It would be completely... There's no way that there's ever been a movie where someone would see his point of view and feel sorry for him or be like
Starting point is 00:25:25 rooting for him, there's just no way. It would be from the young intern or executive assistant's point of view and that would be kind of hot or it would be from the wife who's been cheated on point of view. It will never be from the guy's point of view and it would be like go for it. So this is a different kind of movie and you better believe him when you watch it. So after this article was plastered everywhere, how she can't stop having, I guess, many orgasms while she's filming these sex scenes with this young guy. Everywhere is, oh my God, she threw a surprise party for her husband at a charity event and her twins, her two kids were there, and how great it was.
Starting point is 00:26:07 So I think that was smart, because I think she probably set it in one interview as a throwaway, and now it's just like, that is not a great birthday present for your husband of 20 years. Speaking of older actresses, there is a lawsuit going on by a casting director who would cast the Hallmark movies.
Starting point is 00:26:28 She is, I mean, she's done it for a lot of years. She is close to 80. And she is saying that she was let go for, and she believes it's based on ageism, but in her lawsuit, it says that they wanted to get rid of Holly Robinson Peete and they wanted to get younger actresses to be doing these Hallmark movies and therefore, you know, it's pointing ageism at the Hallmark Channel. Well, I mean, I think there should be a variety of things. And you want to bring younger viewers to watch these Hallmark movies. The reason people love these Hallmark movies, because I have never really gotten into them, because I like cheating and sex and murder
Starting point is 00:27:19 and like murdering your husband. And those are my favorite kind of movies, along with movies surrounding rich people doing cocaine in the 80s. Those are all my favorite kind of movies. To me, I love it. Now, what I understand from these Hallmark movies is sometimes people are like, I just want to watch something that's not going to trigger me, not to overuse the word. I don't want to see something about cheating because my husband whom I'm divorcing cheated. I don't want to be reminded of it. I don't want to be reminded of murder or kidnapping or war or anything else. I just want something nice. And these movies are all, you know, the girl leaves the big city, goes back to visit her parents, the town could not be cuter, and she falls in love with the guy who sells the Christmas trees. And just when she thinks they're going to have a simple life, she
Starting point is 00:28:09 realizes he actually owns the 800 acres of trees, so they're going to be rich anyway, and it all works out to be fine. That is something sometimes people just want to see. So I think that you would want to bring in more actresses that are like 30 so that the 30-year-olds watch it. But as long as someone is still capable of doing their job and doing a good job, that's where it gets a little sticky. But that was kind of interesting. I mean, if Holly Robinson Peete is 60, I can't believe she's that old.
Starting point is 00:28:44 She looks amazing. I'm sure there's roles and things that she can play in these movies, and Ed, maybe it's that she goes and screws the 30-year-old lumberjack, because that's the theme of movies now. So that's what they should do. Keep Holly Robinson-Pete, just have her be having sex with someone half her age.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Okay, real house size of Beverly Hills. The trailer has dropped and they all look gorgeous and they're all dressed like old Hollywood. There's one new cast member who I believe is an exec, like a full blown businesswoman or executive, but she's, so she's not an actress, but I think she has something to do with the business and I don't know her name. And then we have Dorit, we have Kyle, we have Garcelle, Sutton and Erika Jay. That's right, baby. I'm back. Coming back to the show. And the trailer looks real good. And we see Kyle crying and talking to her
Starting point is 00:29:43 husband Mauricio, who they are still not divorced, but we know that they are separated. We still don't know what the relationship is with Morgan Wade. I'm gonna make you love me. But I see Morgan Wade is performing everywhere. And sometimes Kyle is there cheering her on.
Starting point is 00:30:03 So there has never been someone else in the franchise that just has like a best friend that gets to go to things and have scenes that isn't also like going to be possibly a real housewife. The closest I can think of it is Camille Grammer has a really good friend and I think she also works with her that's kind of like her plus one to events. But I don't believe this woman has ever been mic'd or anything like that. So it is kind of interesting that we, you know, but it makes for interesting stuff. Is this girl,
Starting point is 00:30:42 who again is about 30 years younger than Kyle, Morgan, are they just friends? This is what I think happened. And this is something we will never get confirmation on. But this is my prediction. In this season, no, nothing's going to be revealed that they ever did the lickety splits together? No. I think that that Kyle did pursue her, did enjoy her music, was very like starstruck and thought this is such a cool, interesting new friend. And I'm kind of having a midlife crisis. I she's also sober, so is Morgan. And I think that she she's also sober, so is Morgan. And I think that she did grow out of love for Mauricio and his bullshit and his attention seeking ways that she'd put up with all those years. And so she found, so this was like a really fun distraction and a friendship that she really likes.
Starting point is 00:31:43 If it was romantic at one time, which it could have been, I just don't think it is anymore and I don't think it has been for like a year and a half. But like many gay guys and lesbian women, sometimes they can remain friends afterwards, more so than heterosexual couples. So I think they are friends. I think Morgan is not stupid and realizes that we would not know her name or her music if it wasn't for Kyle essentially introducing us to her. And I think she'll make an appearance here or there and
Starting point is 00:32:16 kind of keep the audience guessing. But I don't think we need to keep guessing anymore. That is what I personally think. Now, this is a crazy story that came out. Mauricio and his sister, their father, who's divorced from their mother, he's like 81, is in a relationship with this woman. I don't know how old this woman is or what, but they, the sister, Mauricio's sister especially, has filed to get a restraining order against her. She feels that this woman, who is her dad's girlfriend, is not good for his wellbeing or his health. And they are trying to gain control and possibly put him in a conservatorship. I don't
Starting point is 00:33:02 know if he, you know, doesn't have his wits about him or what the deal is, but they feel that this woman who's around him is, you know, bad news for him. And I just thought that was a really interesting story. I like pray for their family. I hope that isn't the case. It reminds me of the Casey Kasem case that I talked about on the show,
Starting point is 00:33:23 where I had his daughter on here. He's a famous radio DJ and he was married to this woman for quite a while. And then when he got sick, they truly felt that their stepmother was not taking care of their father the way she should. And she cut them off from talking to him. They couldn't get on the phone. It seemed like he was fearful of her. They couldn't stop by. It was insane right up to taking control of where he was to be buried. They didn't have a say. So this is something that is very concerning if your parents are no longer together or if your parent is a widow or widower, who could slip in and you're like happy frolly for a moment that they have like a new companion
Starting point is 00:34:13 and they're happy. But as an adult child, like you just never know. And with all these scammers and grifters in the world, and then if you feel that your parent is not being well taken care of, there's that too. So that's happening. Brandi Glanville, she put out a very interesting tweet, Bravo Lowdown picked it up and grabbed it. So I don't know if she kept it up there or not, but it got a lot of play. She wrote, Happy Sunday Fun Day. It's been almost two years since a lying, short, redheaded, closeted old lesbian ruined my life. Girl, lean into three rainbows. It's a beautiful space.
Starting point is 00:34:54 When you come out, your family will be able to finally speak their own obvious truths. And then some other emojis. So I, first of all, can't believe that the scandal of Caroline Manzo saying that Brandon Glanville touched her in her privates where she did not wanna be touched and tried to kiss her and all this other stuff
Starting point is 00:35:19 while they were filming Ultimate Girls Trip in Morocco. I honestly can't believe that was two years ago. Time flies when you're covering this kind of trash. I love it, I love my life. Seems like it was yesterday. And it seems like it was yesterday because I've spoken a lot about Caroline Manzo in the past week because of course her brother-in-law,
Starting point is 00:35:49 who was married to her actual sister, Dina Manzo, has been convicted of hiring a hitman to beat up Dina's now husband. And he's going to do seven years. And Caroline proceeded to have a fundraiser for him to pay for his legal fees at the Brownstone. And also, let's be reminded that she wrote a character letter about Tommy Manzo and her brother-in-law, ex-husband to Dina, who hired the man to have them beat up. The other case is coming, which is Dina and the same husband went into their home in New Jersey after an event when they were visiting from California and were met by robbers, zip-tied, beat up, both of them beat up, Dina physically beaten up, ring stolen, guns present. That trial is still going to happen. But he got seven
Starting point is 00:36:48 years for the original one where only her fiance or boyfriend at the time got hit. But you know, there's two sides to every story, right? So the sister of Caroline and also DeLore, let's not forget Dolores from Real House of New Jersey also wrote a character letter. He was always nice to me. I'm sure he was. I'm sure he was always nice to you. Anyway, so a lot of people, myself included, think that this situation that happened on camera between Brandi and Caroline, we feel like she may have made a bigger deal out of
Starting point is 00:37:24 it, claiming like, you know, I was traumatized, I was violated, the producers didn't protect me, I'm going to sue Bravo, which she did, to keep whatever they did film from coming to air. Because we'll never see the show, which is really shitty for some of the Housewives that were really excited to have a comeback. And that is Camille Grammer and Gretchen Rossi and Alex McCord. Those are three that we have not seen in a long time. I can't remember the other girls, but those girls were like, oh geez, that we wanted to see back. So this will never see the light of day, I think, because of this lawsuit. And I think she knew to do that. And I think she said things that made her look bad about this case, made her look like what she is, a horrible sister who
Starting point is 00:38:12 doesn't care about Dina, who is her much younger sister, who is, you know, living her greatest life now. Though I'm sure she suffers from PTSD. How could you not? I can only imagine if you were a victim of that, that you wouldn't be walking on eggshells and thinking that you, you know, remembering the night that you thought you were going to die. So even though she is looking gorgeous and in love and has a most beautiful house in Malibu doesn't mean that what she went through wasn't completely horrific and haunts her every day. So then to have your sister not really acknowledge that and still be supporting this asshole is just awful, but it makes for a juicy story of family and fame and mafia and everything
Starting point is 00:39:00 else. So there you go. Though, however, she's not redheaded. Caroline Manzo has gone gray. So, that was one of the, you know, that wasn't totally correct in what Brandy wrote. And also Brandy always using the word old, you know, like you're no spring chicken Brandy. But I still feel for you, girl. I feel for you. I feel that, you know, I get why you're frustrated and why this screwed up your career for the last two years. So we'll see if she ever gets a comeback that she deserves offered a very lucrative commercial to promote the movie Deadpool with her arch enemy, Melissa Gorga, her sister-in-law. And Teresa said,
Starting point is 00:39:59 I turned it down. I turned it down. But you know what? Melissa said she was going to do it. Can you believe it? I'm like, yeah, I can believe it. We you know what? Melissa said she was going to do it. Can you believe it? I'm like, yeah, I can believe it. We don't even know if your show's coming back. That was stupid, Teresa. Why the fuck wouldn't you do the commercial? You both have kids to put through college, big ass mortgages, a lot, you know, why? And a real commercial like that could have, you know, but she would rather cut off her nose to spite her face and say no to that commercial. I don't agree, Teresa.
Starting point is 00:40:32 I think you should have done it, but she didn't. Thought that was interesting. Real House of Owens County is on. And on the last episode, it was just, oh my God, the backgrounds. Okay, so there is, I'm gonna explain it for the people that don't watch. There is this girl, Jen, she's been on for two years. Her new boyfriend, now fiance, is named Ryan. And Tamara has accused Ryan of, you know, having FBI involved in all of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:41:05 He claims, no, it was my best friend who we went on trips with to the Bahamas and places like that, often in Las Vegas. We were just best friends, just two couples, just having fun. He's the one who got in trouble for stealing money from the famous baseball player who is now in the World Series playing for Dodgers. So this whole story came about. And because of his association, Tamara thought there's something going on over there. And she said it and said it and said it and Jen doesn't like it.
Starting point is 00:41:43 And Ryan has threatened to sue or whatever if she doesn't keep talking, if she keeps talking about it. But she does keep talking about it. And that is what Tamra does. That is why producers love her. But she also just throws things out there that are rumors or that are not legit news sources or anything and then puts it on camera and she did that too to Gina. So this is on the show. I did not talk about this when it came out like on Reality Blurb, which is a very popular blog about reality
Starting point is 00:42:20 stories. But there was a story that allegedly Gina, one of the other cast members, pushed her boyfriend down the stairs and their six kids, three on each side, were traumatized by it and went and told Travis's ex-wife who then shared the story. Now this was a very small story. Like we, I didn't talk about people didn't, it was not like a big thing. There was no like arrests or anything like it was just kind of a thing. And then of course, Tamar goes and says it on the show and is like, Well, I don't know why you're so up Shannon Bador's ass. Shannon texted me two years ago saying look into this Gina Travis thing. And Gina's like, Wow, thanks. Thanks, Tamara. I really didn't want that out. Now I have to address it at the reunion and talk about it. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:43:10 I just feel like, I don't know. It would be very scary to join this show and have everybody looking into everything. And it's not just with them. So then going over to Real Housewives of Salt Lake, there's a big thing going on with Whitney. Whitney is the one who is very upset because she believes that she doesn't know if it's Lisa Barlow or Meredith. You brutalized my family, Marx. But someone saying that I got my jewelry from Alibaba,
Starting point is 00:43:53 which is a, you know, where you can buy mass things. That is not true. My jewelry is curated for prism jewels, and it is jewelry that you wear with spiritual intention. She never said it was or wasn't bought there, but she just now was like, who's trying to ruin me by putting it out there? Who told the blogger that put it out there?
Starting point is 00:44:23 And first she thought it was Meredith, and Meredith is like, well, no, but I have a jewelry line and I could have told you not to order from Alibaba. And so she then goes to Lisa and she goes, it was you, Lisa, you were the one that told the blogger about buying my jewelry there, which is basically she sells like the jewelry for $42 and allegedly you can get the same thing for $3 and 46 cents. And we don't know if that's
Starting point is 00:44:51 where she got it or not. Okay. But she doesn't like that it's out there being talked about. She's like, this is my business. And Lisa Barlow is like, Oh my God, I did not do that. I did not. I am so upset right now. You're not going to accuse me of this. I'm going to get the FBI involved. I'm going to get the LAPD. Hold on. Hi, it's Lisa Barlow. Okay, I'm filming right now and somebody is accusing me of doing something I did not do. I am going to sue. I need you to find out, get your cyber team behind it. I did not ever talk about you buying zodiac sign necklaces from Alibaba.
Starting point is 00:45:36 And she's like, oh my God, why is she acting so crazy? I mean, hmm. And Mary's like, hmm, looks like little girl got upset. And it is, then I hear from somebody who wrote me, no, it was Heather Gay. I don't know. But then there's a new story that came out that InTouch is exclusively chatting with a brand partner
Starting point is 00:45:59 who got caught up in Whitney Rose's company's alleged marketing scheme. So this girl is claiming that there was an MLM marketing situation that happened, which is multi-level marketing where you wanna recruit people under you to sell the products. And Whitney Rose Cosmetics was going to turn into another company and they got these people under them
Starting point is 00:46:23 and had them buy all this product, but then they canceled the launch after they bought all the product. So the people are like, we're getting out. So that's basically that. I don't know if there's anything really wrong with that, except I don't think there's any like crime that's happened there, but we know that she and her husband Justin was just was a big part of some other big company. MLMs are really popular in the Mormon community. A lot of moms, Mormon moms do it because it's the perfect kind of job
Starting point is 00:46:50 where you can stay at home, raise your kids, and still make this money, and then you recruit all your people from the church. But however, just like any MLM, if everybody in your town is selling it, then there's nobody to sell to. And so if you're the last to get in and you have to buy, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:05 five thousand dollars worth of product. That's it. Like, you're not going to find people to sell under you. You're not going to make these big checks. Only the people at the top are. So that doesn't look great for her, but it's OK, because she's on real house of Salt Lake City. Lizzo went to a Halloween party and she definitely, in my opinion, is on the Ozempic. I don't know if she's come forward or not, but she made a Lizzo Ozempic thing, laughing
Starting point is 00:47:34 at the South Park episode, which talked about it. And I predicted over two years ago, when we first started talking about Ozempic, I said, watch, Lizzo is going to get thin next and people are not going to be that supportive of it. I hope they are. She's really beautiful. She's talented. Of course, some people still dislike her because she has former dancers and people that are, I don't know where that lawsuit is, but suing her saying that she made them do humiliating stuff, made them work, took them to strip clubs and made them do sex acts with sex performers on stage that they didn't want to for her own entertainment. All that kind of stuff. I don't know where that goes. But she too
Starting point is 00:48:17 thanked Beyonce for this outfit. So that's good. Susan Powder, P-O-W-T-E-R. I'm talking to the juicy scoopers of a certain age. This story, do remember this woman. So this was back in the day of infomercials and fitness craze that you would buy, video tapes, VHS tapes, books, all these things from the TV in packages and to find a way to get healthy. What I recall from this woman's story, she's thin, she's beautiful, and she stood out because
Starting point is 00:48:56 she had a shaved, spiky, blondish, almost white haircut, like buzz cut. And originally, I guess she was from Australia. And I remember her story being like she was really obese and she'd show photos of her. And now she's, you know, super fit, perfect abs and like, you know, whatever, a hundred pounds. And she it was called Stop the Insanity. And she would talk about I remember one time she said, think about it, you know, you go to an AA meeting and they're serving coffee and donuts. Why would they do that? These, you know, these people are already having an addiction of alcohol and then caffeine's an addiction, sugar's an addiction, those things shouldn't be served there. Like, she was kind of breaking down stuff like that, which was cool. Then they were like, oh my god,
Starting point is 00:49:44 she's going to be stark. She also would talk with like no barefoot, which was like a big deal to like do a motivational speech with no shoes. I was like, oh my God. So this was also the time where everybody was getting their own talk show. Just like everybody gets their own podcast, just imagine like a smaller scale, but literally it seemed like everybody was going to have a talk show. Everyone could have a talk show and all the talk shows were basically the same. Like we're going to have regular people come up and you're going to be the dynamic host that people just have to watch every day at two o'clock. Everyone thought they could be Oprah.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Just like everyone thinks they can be me. Anyway, so she said that was a total bomb. They put her in Pearls. It wasn't that that only lasted one season. Then she was going to be in a sitcom. That didn't go. And she was making all this money, she thought, and she put it in the hands of somebody and she did not check. She did not. Anyway, she went totally bankrupt. She's now 66 and she lives in like a senior living situation and she drives Uber Eats which is also interesting because she was such a food person. I
Starting point is 00:50:52 wonder if that's like weird to pick up different like fast food and you know deliver it to people. But she oh she also she was married twice she had two kids she got divorced she became a lesbian and she dated friend of the show, comedian Jessica Kersan for a hot minute in like 2007. Thought that was interesting. Anyway, then she was going to launch a podcast I don't think she has. I would love to hear her story. So I'm going to reach out to her. I would love to do an interview with her.
Starting point is 00:51:22 I want to know more about stuff like this because I've talked to do an interview with her. I wanna know more about stuff like this because I've talked to a daughter of a really big fitness person as well. And that man got screwed out of a lot of money too. And he was a big, is still a big fitness person. But when everybody was bought, when it was all those infomercials and buying those VHS tapes, unless like you owned it or owned the property of it, they really screwed
Starting point is 00:51:52 over people like that. And I really, I think that would be a very interesting conversation. Probably, there's probably some documentary getting worked on it about how about these probably 90s people that we all watched that if they you know they probably got screwed over so that's sad. It's Halloween you guys around the corner and this popped up. This happened 50 years ago in Texas. This man was accused and went on trial for being, he was known as the Candyman Killer. On Halloween night, he was married, he was in the church, he had two kids, and he gave them these pixie sticks, you know, like it's like a straw and you eat it. And one of his kids ate it and got very, very sick and died. The other one he
Starting point is 00:52:48 gave it to, but she didn't eat it, so she was okay. He also gave it to three other kids and they didn't eat it. So thank God. But his own son did. And he said, oh, I bought it from some guy selling candy, like on the corner. So there must be you know some crazy person putting poison. So he put cyanide, it was cyanide in the pixie sticks. There must be a crazy person putting poison in Halloween candy. Anyway, they the prosecutor I guess proved to a jury that he in, had opened it and put the cyanide in it because he had life insurance, $31,000 on each kid, and he wanted to get that money when they died.
Starting point is 00:53:32 So sick. This was his own kids. Absolutely horrible. He did get the death penalty. But I wonder if it was this story that then sparked, like, I'm going to look it up for my next show, where people would say, oh, there's razor blades in candy or, you know, like, first of all, it just made no sense. I think that was definitely an urban myth. Why would somebody just be like putting poison in candy and not even know who got it? Or, I mean, it would be an easy thing to track back to someone's house. I don't know. But of course we would all there was a time where we'd come home and we were so paranoid about being poisoned like by our own neighbors which is weird. So you tear it, you
Starting point is 00:54:18 pull out you couldn't eat any of the candy like as you're picking it up through that was like just for fun and then you dump it and then your parents would go through it and like look at each wrapper and make sure like it's a Snickers and it's safe any funky thing, never anything homemade, all that like went in the trash and then there was a time where people like give little toys or give money or whatever. Now I feel like you know it's pretty safe or whatever. I hope Jimmy Kimmel stops that stupid joke of like parents. Or if you're one of those parents, don't do that.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Now that you have old enough kids, don't do the trick where you say you ate all the candy. I just think that is like so done. We just don't need to see those videos this year. We don't need to see the kid that's super sweet that's like, that's okay, mommy. If you were hungry, I don't need to have the candy. And we don't need to see the kids that are like, I'm gonna kill you and like go and leap for their mother's throat, okay?
Starting point is 00:55:11 We don't need to see that. We don't need to see that. This is just a played out prank on social media that we've watched for 15 years. So skip that, just have a nice safe Halloween time. This was really interesting. This was on a British show and this actress, Saoirse Ronan, she's Irish, and there were Denzel Washington, a couple other actors,
Starting point is 00:55:40 she was the only woman sitting there, And they were joking about, you know, what would happen if you were like attacked or what you would say to someone who had a gun to your head. And they were just joking about it. And then she said, something to the effect. Well, that's what women go through every day. Like we fear this all the time. And it's like not funny, something to that.
Starting point is 00:56:04 And so a lot of people are picking it up because the guys then realized, yeah, anyway, don't mean to make it about myself. But on Thursday's show, when I was with Sloan and we were talking about assault and all those kinds of things, that is something that I've had to tell my husband and my sons over to make them understand that as a woman, that our fear never stops. We are scared when we're little girls, just like a boy might be a little bit scared, but the boy somewhat grows out of it unless they're really like in a dangerous situation. But we are fear danger every single day when we're in our homes, when we are walking around, when we are working out, when we're walking to our
Starting point is 00:56:51 car, everything. So it's just interesting that then this was also said. So it's just like I said on Thursday show, it's important that people just kind of realize that that is a huge difference between men and women that will probably that will never change. Because it just physically we are women and it's different and we're smaller and it's just a different kind of a thing that just so I thought that was really interesting. Okay, a little some Diddy updates kept it to the end because whatever. This video is going viral. It's from many years ago and it's when Diddy invited the 12 year old star she was in the movie Ring.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Her name is Dave Chase to party and it was like she they presented it to her the award and then afterwards is a video of Diddy being like, you should come to the after party. He's like laughing. They have not talked to the girl. I don't think she went to the after party. Is it weird today? Yeah. But it wouldn't have been weird if he wasn't accused of all these horrible things with many people who are saying it happened when they were not of age. So that was one thing. Also, the judge slaps feds with a gag order. Basically, in the criminal trial, the judge is saying, you've got to watch what you're saying to you cannot say anything more about the evidence that you found because there were some feds or whatnot that were being quoted
Starting point is 00:58:25 by New York Post and other places as saying, we saw the videos and it's some sick shit on there. They're like, don't be saying that. Don't put it out there because that would affect his right to a fair trial. Oh, then to just add to just what is out there. There is a discovery documentary on Chris Brown and they get into the gruesome details of the horrific story of when he and Rihanna were dating and some of you might not know the story and they were coming back from an award ceremony, an event, and he spoke about it at the time and they collected it but he beat her up. He punched her with a closed event and he spoke about it at the time and they collected it but he beat her up. He punched her with a closed fist and he admitted that and her face was bloody
Starting point is 00:59:12 and it was horrible and he was pretty much cancelled. You know people I don't remember so that's why I'm gonna watch this because I don't remember, so that's why I'm going to watch this, because I don't remember Diddy do any time, what happened with it all. In his stories, he was like, you know, she was hitting me and I had her back and you know, whatever. I don't know if he was ever apologetic or whatever. But then along with the story, with this documentary also featured in this doc. A woman accuses him of S.A. her on Sean Diddy Combs yacht, which was in 2020. And there was also that other woman who said something happened on Sean P. Diddy yacht. And she accused P. Diddy's son of the same thing. So the yacht, both the yacht stories
Starting point is 01:00:10 of these two victims, one of the blaming Chris Brown, the other one, Diddy's son, very similar, given some drink that all of a sudden their bodies can't move and then a person is on top of them and they can't break free. And then the pink cocaine. Oh, this is so sad about Liam Payne. So just to cover the pink cocaine, it is typically a powdery mix of ketamine and illegal substances such as methamphetamine, MDMA, or opioids. I mean, it sounds like it's like basically everything but the kitchen sink, literally, when it comes to drugs. It's emerging and they're seeing young people and it has high doses of ketamine
Starting point is 01:01:06 and it can really affect the cardiovascular and the respiratory situation. It also will affect bladder, anxiety, panic attacks, palpitations, chest pains, depression, aggravated symptoms of existing mental health issues, slurred speech, inability to speak, absolutely horrible. You know, people said that they saw him in the lobby prior. So I think it's very clear that he was having these underlying issues and then he got a hold
Starting point is 01:01:41 of this drug that sent him over the edge in which then he ran and jumped out of the building, it sounds like, so really sad. I did not know that he had a show in the works at Netflix. Kind of sounds like an American Idol kind of a thing. This was called Building the Band, a singing competition series scheduled to debut on Netflix. They had completed the filming of the show along with AJ McLean, Nicole Scherzinger and Kelly Rowland. So they were all parts of, you know, boy and girl bands and Pussycat Dolls and Destiny's
Starting point is 01:02:23 Child and everything. So it makes sense they'd all be working together on this. And the premiere date has not been set following his tragic fall so of course the co-stars of this you know are very sad and had nice things to say but yeah I don't know what you do with that I wonder how many episodes they shot what if you were one of the people that was featured on this and maybe won it and then they're going to shelve it? That is also very sad too, but you can understand it might be very strange to watch, you know, him being delightful and giving advice. And so I don't know what I don't know what you do in that situation, but I'm going to predict that they do it with somebody else
Starting point is 01:03:09 and start all over and maybe those same people that were part of the first competition can also be in this one. I don't know, but I don't think we're going to see it. All right, you guys, remember, if you're part of the Apple paid subscription, click on the link below in the description right here, and we will send you the information that you need so that you
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