Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Hollywood Insiders, “The List” and Housewife Divorce

Episode Date: November 5, 2024

I’ll be at The Irvine Improv Nov. 8,9 &10! Teddi Mellencamp announced she filed for divorce. Does Vicki from RHOC have an incriminating photo? Are Kanye and Bianca starting a nudist colony? Then I'm joined by Tara Electra of the Unruly Agency and David Weintraub of DWE. Together they represent some of the biggest rappers, influencers and OnlyFans creators. We get into the fight involving Ray J and Diddy’s sons. Tara shares how she got screwed over in Hollywood and took revenge. There is a “list” in Hollywood and you may be able to guess what it is for. They share the biggest mistake OnlyFans stars can make. Also, Tara tells how to get a following if you’re not famous. So juicy!!   To learn more about therapy with NOCD, go to https://nocd.com and schedule a free 15-minute call with their team. There’s a limited supply available, so head to https://mycuire.com to get your leather care kit today! Get the only skincare routine you’ll ever need. Head to https://JLOBeauty.com/JUICYSCOOP to receive 20% off plus THREE FREE GIFTS, including two quality Face Masks and one hydrating Beso Balm. Stand Up Tickets and info: https://heathermcdonald.net/ Shop Juicy Scoop Merch https://juicyscoopshop.com  Get EXTRA Juicy on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop  Follow Me on Social Media: Instagram: https://www/instagram.com/heathermcdonald  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald  Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Well, I hope you guys all had a great Halloween and had fun. I wanna tell you that the day of Halloween, I was given an incredible suggestion of a Halloween costume. And it would have been genius. There just wasn't enough time to get it together. But my Pilates instructor was like,

Heather, I know what you should be. Because she was listening to Juicy Scoop. And she said, you should be pregnant, Giselle. And Peter can be the karate jihitsu guy, whatever. And I was so excited, but I knew it would be hard to get this outfit together. Also, it'd be so genius because she only announced her pregnant after her pregnancy early in the week.

So nobody could have been that during that big Hollywood, millions of hot parties, Halloween situation. So I was like, this will be such an original idea, but there just wasn't enough time to try to find a karate outfit for Peter and a baby bump for me, because we were doing stuff that day. So we went as Game of Thrones and I wore a long blonde wig

and a lot of people just thought I was Cher. So maybe I'll be Cher next year. Anyway, it was fun. Hope you had a good, fun, safe time. Moving on to this weekend, you guys, I will be at the Irvine Improv, one show this Friday night. And then that standup with Julie Goldman,

who will also be doing standup before I come on stage. Then two shows on Saturday, November 9th, 730 and 930. And then on November 10th, there is a Juicy Scoop Live. And that's always so fun. That's at 7 p.pm. That is lots of special guests, special surprises. There's going to be a Q&A, which I rarely do. So it'll be a little interactive. Lots of really funny, edgy ideas. This is not streamed. This is not going to be recorded and played later on any platform. This is only for the people

in the room. So get your tickets at heathermcdonnell.net. Okay. Well, you know, listen, you guys, obviously the news is all politics and you come to Juicy Scoop to escape the political talk and just have some fun and talk about juicy, frivolous shit. Which thank you to all the people that have thanked me for that.

Let me tell you, I've missed out on a lot of great opportunities to be really fucking funny and make some videos go viral. But no, I made a commitment to you and I'm sticking to it. So as we get through today, this story, there were other news sources that were trying to do something other than politics. And this was a big, big deal.

Peanut the squirrel is an adorable squirrel that belongs to very attractive human squirrel-owning parents. They're all influencers, but I guess Peanut is the biggest Instagram star in the house. This is a sad story. He's no longer with us. This happened in New York City, and people are absolutely so upset. I saw the TMZ article with the grieving parents of Peanut. of Peanut. So apparently, Peanut, the squirrel pet, was euthanized by the New York State authorities, triggering significant public outcry. This was done as part of a rabies test after someone reportedly said they were bitten by the squirrel. And the authorities justified their

actions by highlighting the illegal nature of keeping wild animals as pets. Now the owner, the dad, Mark Longo, Peanuts owner, along with his supporters, started an online petition to plan to take legal action against what they claim was excessive force during the raid. They said these people came into their house, they separated them, they found Peanut, there was also a raccoon. But now there's other people, a New York congressman says that he and his fellow delegates want to answer, they want answers from the governor about Peanut. So now this guy is like standing behind Peanut. And of course, it's sad. Whatever, this Peanut was probably bringing in some money, bringing a lot of joy to people. I'm sure when you

get comments that are people are like, Heather, this isn't funny. You don't know who Peanut is. You don't know what he brought to people. I don't. I understand to these people, it was must have been like a dog. I don't know who lied about being bit by Peanut or not. I don't know if there was surveillance cameras, Peanut didn't get an attorney, it was a big deal. But they, I mean, I see squirrels all the time and I could see why someone thinks like, I think this squirrel's fricking adorable

and I think I could train it to live in my house and be perfectly fine. And I guess Peanut was perfectly fine. And they're saying, we don't even know that it bit anybody. Like how did this happen? And like it was like a raid, like all these people came. And then of course people are like really with all the shit that's going on in New York City, this is what our tax dollars, this is where you put the effort around this little innocent squirrel

that you know was just hoping to go to like a revolve party at stage coach. I don't know. I don't know. I feel really badly that Mark and his girlfriend or wife, they were crying and the TMZ guys were practically crying. They were very involved with Peanuts' life. And so, yeah, you know, that's a story that doesn't involve politics, but it does. I see it does, because why? Why was Peanut, why did this happen to Peanut? So I don't know, hopefully they can find

another squirrel, maybe they won't. Maybe they'll realize, you know, squirrels, it's too much of a risk to have a squirrel living in your house. I don't know. But they also, I guess it was also a raccoon that was involved. But I don't know if that raccoon was an Instagram influencer too. I don't know, you guys. This is the most I got out of the story.

So it's very sad. Also, over the weekend, I watched the most I got out of the story. So it's very sad. Also, over the weekend, I watched the Martha Stewart Netflix doc. There were stories leading up to this and I really enjoyed her really dry sense of humor. She's like in her early 80s. She looks amazing. She said she did not like the special that much. She said it looked like it was – she portrayed like an old lonely woman because they showed her walking around her garden. She has this incredible property where it looks like she's like the only gardener there, which obviously they can't be in.

It's like acres and acres. But it's like literally so many shots of her like driving around in like a tractor or whatever and like talking about like to people like this one needs to be trimmed this way. It's really kind of amazing how much she knows. But anyway, she said that she looked kind of old as she like walked around with her old walk or whatever, which was kind of funny. She talked about her husband cheating on her and said, you know, listen, if your husband's cheating on you, look at him like what he is. He's a piece of shit. Get rid of him. But she didn't get rid of him. She

shared all of her letters that she wrote to him over and over again, saying that she was so hurt because he was like a serial cheater. The worst was that she had this girl working for her who needed a place to stay. And she's like, oh, just stay in the, you know, in the guest house. And then she found out they were having an affair. So that really sucks when you hire someone to like, you know, help with your flowers or whatever, help with your baked goods.

And then she's fucking her husband. So that part was sad. But then they brought up the fact that she had cheated a couple of times and she didn't consider it cheating. She's like, oh, please. It was a brief dalliance with a very attractive Irishman. You think I was going to leave my husband for an Irishman?

No. He doesn't even know about it. And then the documentarian is like, no, he did. We talked to him. And she's like, oh, well, it was an Irishman. He was attractive, but I mean, come on. So that was pretty funny. Now it was really great.

I think you should watch it. It really showed what she built and how hard she worked. And you know, was she a bitch on occasion because someone used the wrong knife? Yeah, that's her job. Her job was to show people that were working for her on camera how to make stuff. So if they're using the wrong knife, she's got to say, hey, you're using the wrong knife. Like you work for me. We're not going to have cameras here. And then have someone see that you don't even know how to use the proper knife to dice the onion. So there were a couple of moments where she was a little short with people.

Okay, I don't think that made her sound like a bitch, sound like a boss. So it's really funny, they get into her snoop thing and then they get into why she went to prison and it definitely seemed a bit of a witch hunt going after this woman. But I'm not gonna say it all. So you guys watch it.

I talk about a little bit more on my next Patreon and get into some more details, but it's good. And I have a lot of respect for her and she is fun. And okay, now other sad news. Teddy Mellingcamp of formerly real housewives of Beverly Hills. She and her husband Edwin of 13 years, she announced on Saturday that she's getting a divorce.

And she said, you know, I'm coming forward with this before speculation begins, but we made the difficult decision to divorce. Also, Tamara said on her show that she has a photo that was sent to her from Vicki. While Vicki was filming the never to be seen ultimate girls trip in Morocco and she did not show the photo, Tamara, but said it looked like Brandy was on top of her and like, you know, Caroline Manza couldn't get out and Vicki sent it being like, this is crazy, whatever. However, most of the girls that were on that trip have stood up for Brandi saying, Brandi

doesn't deserve this. It wasn't the way Caroline has described in her lawsuit against Bravo. So by Tamara bringing this up, I feel like this isn't great for the case. You know, it's good for Caroline and it's not great for Bravo. I think she was doing it to get at Vicki, but I think this wasn't a smart move to share this publicly because it doesn't help the case as far as Caroline suing Bravo, and Bravo is the employer of all these people.

So there you go. Jennifer Lopez was out being photographed and having fun, and remember she's in this movie. It's called Unstoppable that is getting really good reviews. And I think it's kind of a different role for her, a more serious role. And Ben Affleck and Matt Damon were producers. And he was talking about the movie and he said, Jennifer is great in it. She's fabulous, which doesn't surprise us. Like, he wants the movie to do well. He doesn't want the narrative to be that he was an asshole

that tricked her into falling back in love with him and then dumping her. So this is good. Like, this could be the cherry on top of the divorce cake that they all participate in this movie that is like really good, well-received, maybe get some awards during awards season. I said that too, wouldn't it be great

if she was nominated for some things for her acting in this movie? And, you know, and falling in love with him again was just a big three-year mistake on her part, and she moves along, and she walks off with an Oscar, and whatever. But I kind of think that's what is trying to be put out there at this time.

Well, Yi and Bianca, Kanye, also known as Yi, and Bianca are talking about starting their own nudist colony. They are in nudist therapy, where they meet with a therapist that are nude as couples therapy. And according to these sources, they say, well, we know that she likes to like walk around partially nude, oftentimes without shoes, which I feel is the cruelest part of this whole nude thing,

especially when you're in Disneyland. But what you don't know is that he loves being nude too. And I am like, ew. First of all, I don't know if I believe this story at all. It's from In Touch Weekly. This is just like a source told In Touch Weekly, whatever. They want to start a nudist colony where like people would just like walk around nude,

which by the way, nudist colonies and like nude beaches and all that stuff have existed for a really long time, like nude cruises, all this like stuff. So I guess people will like it. But I don't know that his body's ready to be nude right now and he wears a lot of sweats and things. So they're like, no, you have no idea how much Kanye just loves walking around nude.

It's just so weird, but, um, this might be her. This is all her supposedly. So now we go to like, it's really Bianca who loves being nude. She has pushed for it. She loves it. She, it's not like she's being forced to wear barely anything. She loves it. So very weird and interesting. Lizzo said that she's decided to stop being vegan amid weight loss journey.

So now Lizzo has never said that she is on Ozempic. She wore an Ozempic really funny costume, but she's never said that she's been on it. Now there's all the different versions of it, but it's basically, are you on the shots that curb your appetite or not? And most people are that have lost a significant amount of weight within like a year period. And she's one of those people. And it's one of the things I predicted right from the start. I said, watch, Lizzo is going to lose weight and it's not going to be, it's going to be received differently. Some people are going to feel like you've abandoned your

pot, you know, your positivity, whatever. She looks great. People are still like, let's not forget. She was awful to her dancers who are filing a lawsuit. I don't know where that went. I also don't know when the last time she brought out new music. I hope she's working on new music, but she looks great. Anyway, my opinion of her not being vegan is when you're on these weight loss shots, it's really important that you eat protein, because you're not that hungry and you want to eat like salmon, fish, something like that. And I think it is kind of a hard thing to do with vegan. And you're like, I don't need to be vegan.

Like I'm barely eating, let me just have what I want. So that is what I think is really behind this. Okay, well, you guys have been asking and asking, where is Meghan Markle's American Riviera Orchard products? Where is the jam? Where is it? Like, how are we going to get through the holidays without these products? Well, there's been an issue with the trademark situation. Because the two things, they're saying it's too similar to another lifestyle brand called Harry and David's Royal Riviera, Pear Baskets. That is a little similar. And when they say it's similar, they're

saying there's a confusion and we had it first. So I guess she right now is still trying to get the trademark. So they protested, the Harry and David people protested claiming that it's confusion. Then they also noted issues. The U.S. patent also said that there is an issue because Markle's brand name, because it describes a geographic location which complicates trademark approvals. There really is an American Riviera orchard that's like somewhere near her house in Montecito. But now she bought a house in Portugal. So who knows when she's leaving America, if this isn't going to work out.

Their $100 million Netflix deal that they inked in 2020 for all the content, the $100 million worth of content that Netflix was gonna reap from working with Meghan and Harry. That's almost over with. What did we see? Besides the documentary, am I missing something? Was there a scripted series? Was there like a Love is Blind franchise I missed? Where was all the hundred million dollars worth of content that Netflix got besides the documentary about them? There was nothing else. So that ended just like the, I don't even know, forty million dollar Spotify deal had. So she was really putting all her energy into making some jam that she sent to influencers. And that has not worked out.

I am telling you guys, we are getting so close to Meghan Markle joining some type of ladies reality show. Maybe it won't be Real Housewives. Maybe it'll be something in Portugal. Maybe it'll be the Real Housewives of Portugal when she goes over there. It looks like her house is in some part of like a golf country club situation. That could be fun. There could be like a mix of expats or whatever or ex-Europeans or all Europeans or I don't know

who's living in Portugal, but it sounds like a delightful place to be. And I'm telling you that's happening. Of course, there's always rumors that they're not happy and blah, blah, blah. But we'll see. Also that could maybe not a big deal. Maybe she gets her trademark and you guys get the jam by Christmas. And you're like, why did Heather even bother talking about that?

I don't know. But I'm telling you, I don't think the jam's gonna be a big deal, a big hit. And I think we're gonna see her on some type of reality show, TV TV something sooner than we could imagine. Also, according to New York Post, King Charles has cut off his brother, Prince Andrew, who was also, you know, best friend with Epstein, his 1.3 million allowance. This is according to a book and he lives in this house, Prince Andrew, and he's like renovated and everything,

but he doesn't own it. It's like this lease that is part of the royals leasing this land. So if he loses, if this is true, which is said in this book, and he loses this allowance that he gets from King Charles, this 1.3 million year, that would really cause him to probably have to move out

and he'll may never reap the benefits of like renovating this house. And I mean, he doesn't have his duties anymore. So he's probably like, why do we have to pay him? If he's not doing anything for us anymore because he was such a disgrace because he was hanging out with Epstein, he did that horrible interview with the BBC, you know, interviewer where he's like, I don't sweat. And therefore, you know, this

person lied about me ever being with her at a nightclub and all the stuff that went on with that story. We all know he's a piece of shit and he's gross. So good luck to him. All right. Now for a very juicy interview. This is truly an Inside Hollywood. What is happening now? I've got Tara Electra, who started her own agency Unruly to represent some of the biggest influencers and many of the biggest OnlyFans stars and how that really works and how beneficial it is. Also, she's teamed up with returned Juicy Scoop guest David Weintraub, who is producer, agent, manager to the stars. And they really get into what this business is about and how OnlyFans is really changing people's lives.

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And I just had so many friends that had like millions of followers and everyone thought that if you had millions of followers, you're making millions of dollars. And there was a lot of influencers that were broke making nothing, which was like, people recognize I'm on the street, but they're broke, and they can't figure out how to make money. So I started seeing a lot of the problems

that they were dealing with, and I started helping them monetize in literally every single way you could possibly monetize on the internet. And so, you know, I failed, I started a lot of businesses, I got fucked over in LA, just went through all the Hollywood stuff. Well, tell me, what is your favorite

I got fucked over stories? Oh, my favorite one was this one guy basically came to me and he was a friend of mine and he's like, I have this idea for this platform, but I need influencers for it. And so he's like, and I'm like, okay. And then he's like, I'll give you 50% of it and we'll start building it so he started building it for like three months he found this investor and was like

hey if you go sign 10 influencers up on a letter of intent he'll invest like a million dollars so I'm like okay so I go sign with Dre London I sign Post Malone so Dre London is's his manager. I signed like this guy, Vitale, who was a big influencer, Helen Owen and Zach, like a bunch of influencers, I signed 10 of them. My friend didn't know any of them. So I got all these people to sign up to the idea just off me pitching it. And then the investors like, okay, I'm coming in.

They started the company formation and all this stuff. And then I went to a meeting with one of my mentors and he was sitting next to me and we were talking to him about how to build the financial aspect of the platform. And the guy's like, what's the name of the LLC? And then my friend told him, he's like, oh, it's this. And he looked it up, he's like, okay, so I see you, you own X amount and then he said the investor's name.

And he's like, and he owns the other amount, so it's just you two. And I was sitting next to him and investor's name and he's like, and he owns the other amount. So it's just you two. And I was sitting next to him and I looked over and I'm like, what? And then I found out, I called the investor and he said to the investor that I was just his assistant helping him gather the talent. And he formed the company.

How many years ago was this? It's probably like when I was like 23. So like probably I'm 30 now. So then- Is that platform still around? So then I called all the influencers, it's the best part. So I called all the influencers,

I said, you can stay if you wanna keep going, but I'm gonna pull out and every single one of them fell off. And then fast forward, I have Unruly blow up. Your agency now. Yeah, my agency now. I get invited to a meeting with the owner of a huge platform.

I go to the meeting and I'm sitting down with the owner of the platform and he comes in as his employee writing notes for the meeting. Wow. It was so fulfilling. The tables turn. Yeah, that's a great female, you fucked me over story and puck around and see what happens kind of a story, I like it.

Yeah, I feel like in LA as like a female in this industry, people automatically initially will take you, like put you down or think that you're not gonna be at the level they will. So you get underestimated. Why do you think that though? I feel like there's so many successful women that are like just bosses now

that I don't feel like anyone walks in a room now and thinks that at all, because you know that like women are coming to the table with money and you make so much money for these women. You know, it changes their lives and so many ways. But I think even 10 years ago, things were really different. Exactly.

Even five years ago. I feel like finally it's like, kind of leveled out and is based more on like the merit of what you bring in and not to underestimate people. But yeah, I think there's just that natural assumption of like, oh, you must be the cute assistant since you're young and you're cute. You're the cute young assistant. You know, that was it.

Like that was just, you know, we'd see. You must be in the mail room. You must whatever. Now it's the hot CEO. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So, so now, okay, this, so you guys threw this big Halloween party that's like all over the news.

I talked about it on Thursday show. I called you, David. I just said this story is crazy, which was that P. Diddy's three sons were at your Halloween party with all these influencers, sexy influencer, like OnlyFans people and rock stars and rappers. And they approached Ray J,

because they don't like that Ray J has been speaking about the P. Diddy case and they approached Ray J, because they don't like that Ray J has been speaking about the P. Diddy case, and tried to fight him, and then Chris Brown tried to step in and break it up, and I'm like, this, and then your name is thrown in it, David, and I'm like, ah, I merely texted you,

and I'm like, what is this? And then I'm like, and what was everybody dressed as? Because that's the most important part of the story. Well, Ray J went dressed as Kanye, first of all. But we'll get to that. First of all, that was the fifth party that she's done. And I've been to five of the four. And this party every year is the hottest Halloween party

by far. I mean, it's taken like, forget about like the Playboy Mansion or the Maxim party or whatever. The Unruly party is that party. Okay, I'm being invited next year, thank you. Everybody fights to get into this party. I mean, like lines of people, bands, and there's a whole process to get vetted and in.

You know, it is the sexy people, it is the beautiful people, it is the famous people. This year, I brought clients of mine and friends of mine, I brought Amber Rose and I brought Ray J. And you know, the party was going amazing. We just had a good time. There was nothing, like we did, we were part, everybody was partying.

Ray was partying with Chris, with Tyga, with Amber was doing her thing. Ty Dolla Sign was there. Ty Dolla Sign. Lain and Barker came and Wardeed. Yeah. Literally so many people came and watched. Tana, of course.

And everything was great. We were just having a ball. And there is a lot of content being shot there. So you would think that if there was any kind of kerfuffle of sorts, it would be video everywhere of that. But the party was great. And then when we were leaving, you know, everyone was kind of in masks

and I have my security, Chris was kind of in front of us, me and Ray and Amber were walking out. And then like three boys in masks just like came up and just started. I couldn't even really hear what they were saying, but they just pressed Ray. They were pressing him and pressing him.

Physically pressing. Like pressing in the world of hip hop means to come up and sort of just be aggressive with somebody and to kind of be like, yo, this is X, Y, and Z. And it just didn't really make any sense. So them being, Ray was actually at that moment ready to fight. I mean, it was, because this was the third time

that one of the kids had approached him and said that he wasn't to be talking about his father. Now, Ray is a television star. We have our own outlets, our own networks, our own TV shows, and he's on television every day. So if you're in an interview and you're being asked about cultural pop culture news, and you have an opinion of something, you have every right to say it. You can't stop him.

Nobody is bigger than the next person. And I think that Ray felt, you can't keep continuing to go and press me. So at that moment, just all hell broke loose. They started to kind of like bump each other and got a little wild. Chris Brown ran to the side, pulled the Diddy boys off, and me and my security pulled Ray off.

And it was like, we're not gonna ruin the Unruly Party with this stuff because this is what- It's called the Unruly Party. It's kind of as appropriate. I was like, I'm like, of course, like, I bring my clients to the Unruly Party to hang out, that like, we also want Unruly and DWE to be in business with these people.

And then all hell breaks loose there. So luckily, I think that we avoided a big, sort of a bigger problem because Ray's not a guy to play around with. And I mean, it could have gotten very serious very quickly. And that's a scary moment. So who broke it up, the security people? No, Chris and I.

Oh, Chris Brown, that's right, he was there. And Amber Rose was there. And Amber, and Amber, and Amber was like, why am I in the middle of this? It was like, it was just all, it was kind of just a weird, but that's like the normal world. I mean, for me, I have such an eclectic group of clients.

I mean, I have rappers, rock stars, reality stars, influencers, you know, pop culture people that are famous for two minutes for whatever reason. Like I have a lot of very interesting clients. So like that group moving around in that group's party is just a big menagerie of craziness, as you can imagine. Cause the Unruly Party is the Unruly Party for a reason. So then it all ended okay.

So that's- Well, for now, for today. For now. We'll see what happens after this podcast. But fuck them, don't fucking press right. Wait, I think this is pretty amazing. This is TMZ, this is your client, little baby. No, this is my friend's client, but this is a gig that I did for a little baby.

Oh, okay, so what is this story? So, you know, the personal appearance business is the business. So like, they had personal appearances at their party where people were performing, and that's not considered a concert, because you're not selling tickets to it. So like, a personal appearance is when you bring in a celebrity to do a private show.

And that is what we're doing. This is when I did a couple. I mean, that's like Beyonce at the Atlantis opening in Dubai, like the biggest stars. They'll pay, there's enough rich people that will pay to have their favorite person at their event. Yes, and I have a lot of those clients and this particular Bar Mitzvah,

this is a really wonderful Persian Jewish family who I've done a number of parties for. They're great, very generous, and they just want to have their guests have the best time. And we brought in Lil Baby to do a private show for the kids, and it was a surprise. For the Bar Mitzvah. That's wild. For the Bar Mitzvah.

I love it. And you know, this is, you know, a lot of money is exchanging hands, and you know, people are doing... To have your dream rapper come to your bar mitzvah, there is nothing like that in the world. The thing is Lil Baby is a complete professional. He was on the plane on time. He was there early. He took all the pictures. He did an incredible show.

The family is happy. And then when you do that kind of gig, for me, I have 10 other families that now want me to go and do their parties and go bring them their talent. Well, we need a comedian, I'm hiring you. Yes, this is what I have been manifesting, okay, is as a comedian, I won't just do my hour stand-up. No. For the right up. No.

For the right price. Yes. Does your wife love housewives and want all the dish and want me to do all the impressions and hang out with she and her friends on the mega yacht in Dubai, whatever? That is Lifestyles of the rich and funny, and you bring me in. Wow. So are we using?

It's hanging out. It's a little more of a hangout. So it's not the 30 minute, you know, rap bit for the kids because I don't think that's, I don't know that I can pull that, but the experience of having me be one of the girlfriends of all your rich friends and kind of being the court gesture for the right price. Could this be a paywall kind of business?

For the right price, I will do it. Have you tested it with her? Yeah, go on the trip. She's different, different comedian, definitely different. But definitely a cool industry for sure. We'll see, I feel like that can happen. I think it's going to happen.

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And two to three were possibly underage look to be. And there were some celebrities, but he didn't say any names or anything. So that's the latest on that. So, you know, a lot of people think he's not even in prison. A lot of people think he was switched on Saturday. Wow.

Or he's already been switched because they did a raid on the prison. What do you mean by switched? You mean that he's, it's not him? It's a dupe. It's a dupe. That's actually in prison. And then where is he?

Is he dead, alive? Oh, alive, alive somewhere. I think alive somewhere. I'm saying if we're going to go down the route, if you were in that position, let's say you're innocent, you're P-ditty, you're innocent, but it looks like the cards are stacked against you. And there is an opportunity for you

to go to an island somewhere and not have to face possible life in prison. But you're never gonna be P. Diddy, you're never gonna have fun parties anymore, you're never gonna have power, you're never gonna make music again, you're just gonna be like safe on an island, like in a nice house, whatever.

You know, would that even be something that would be satisfying to your life? I don't know. But so that I think it's crazy, because who's the person? Who's the person that's like, oh, I'll take over and never say anything and get plastic surgery and look like you.

I don't know. That's true. I don't know. I don't necessarily believe that. I think he is there. But you know, with everything that you guys touch on, I just want to get your general, what is the vibe? Are people scared that names are gonna be called?

Because I'm like, we never knew any names in Epstein. We never got any real, no other person went down for that. So I'm kind of like, name them. I thought so many people came out about Epstein that were associated with it But like nothing ever happens. Well the list of all the people on the planes and right things like that, but it's I mean Look if there was eight sex tapes that existed with all of these people there is about

Zero chance that it would be able to be suppressed for that long in this market without somebody either leaking clips of it or shopping it at this point. And it's not the same era of a lot of stuff that we obviously lived through with like, you know, the Ray J Kim sex tape. That was a different era. You know, that was a business. Papers were signed. A product comes out. A video is sold, You know, that was a business. Papers were signed, a product comes out,

a video is sold, you know, makes 200 million. This is a time when this is about like illegal activities that may have been influenced by partying. So this is a very weird touchy time. If it's gonna come out, I think you already would have seen a little bit of it. Because the only way to get people active in that world is to drop the photo of it or to drop the little leak

because that makes everybody scurry to make sure it goes away. I mean, I think what happened is why it came down is exactly that. I think he, like Epstein, filmed it all for his own archives joy, but also like blackmail. I do think Kim Porter got hold of it. And maybe she, you know, and maybe when she presented it to him,

that's what happened. And then someone else got it. And so we'll see. But like, I hate that every week there's like 15 articles like this. And we'll you know, the trial isn't for months and months. So I don't know. Like I'm just, we'll see what happens if anybody gets mentioned, you know? What's crazy to me is the kids,

like Justin Combs and Sean Combs, all of them were living like at the peak in LA. Like they threw all the parties. They were just living the life, dating all these famous influencer girls. And like they were like having the peak in LA. They threw all the parties. They were just living the life dating all these famous influencer girls and they were having the life. So it's just wild to me to watch them, their whole world be changed. Remember when Steve Harvey's stepdaughter dated Sean, dated P Diddy's son and then started dating P Diddy's son and then started dating P. Diddy.

Yeah, I've seen, I've heard of things like that, that like he's dated people that his sons have dated. Yes, I've heard that. But then also like America's dad, Steve Harvey, was like, okay with that? Makes people, makes you go, what the hell? Who knew what? Or maybe you didn't know anything. Maybe you were like, whatever, she's an adult.

He's delightful to me. We've always been friendly. I mean, just because there's people with photos with him doesn't mean anything. Like if I was at a party and P. Diddy was there and someone was like, let me get a photo of you, I'd be like three years ago, and then it would look like I did something weird.

Well, people are only looking at it like that now. I mean, that's what they're saying now, you know? Yeah. I mean, I went to Diddy's 50th birthday and I went to Diddy's Super Bowl party in Miami right before COVID. Those were dope parties. There was nothing weird going on.

I didn't see anything weird going on. Every celebrity was there and they were having a good time, but it wasn't like some sex party. It was a regular party. But how long did you stay? I mean, I wasn't there until five in the morning, but I was there probably until like two. There was no secret room that I saw

or like some weird thing going on. It was a party. It was a birthday party. It was a Super Bowl party. Now look, I'm sure as the hours get weirder and the drugs start to kick in and the alcohol goes crazier and the regular people leave that aren't in that little circle, the weird shit may start to go down.

But isn't that at any party in the world? Isn't there like, there's always like the party and then the after party? And I'm not condoning any of that stuff, but I'm saying a lot of people went to those parties and did not see anything So so you cannot be shocked in any way that they're like, well, how did you not know? How did you not know Ray J's on TV talking about it? He didn't know he he traveled the world with Diddy He never saw I mean it's something like that really was happening happening

That's happening with a very small group of people in a very tight and inner circle. Well, I feel like this on a much lower level is like, I have never tried cocaine. I've never done it. I've never tried it. And what I've always realized with that is even though I wouldn't care if we were hanging out and you guys

did a line, whatever, that's your business, whatever, I'd be like, be careful there's no fentanyl. Be careful there's no fentanyl in it, be sure it's not pink, like I would be like concerned today, but let's just say five years ago. I wouldn't care and I would never judge, I would never tell. But what I've noticed is I've literally never seen anyone

do it since I was like 19. Because they know you don't do it. If they know I don't do it, they keep it very private and I kind of think this is probably the same thing. If they know you don't do it. If they know I don't do it, they keep it very private. And I kind of think this is probably the same thing. If they know you're not down and you're not going to be participatory, then they don't want you to know that they do it. And so they keep it very separate.

And so the night that you have with Diddy is going to be very different than somebody else. Very true. So I think it's very similar to that. And so then when people say, did you see anything weird? Did you ever, to me, Heather, did you ever see this person do drugs? I can honestly say no, no, I never did. You know, they knew that wasn't my thing.

I had cocktails with them, you know, but that was it. So it's like, I think it could be kind of like that. Now getting back to your, to your business and stuff. Okay, let's talk a little bit about OnlyFans because when it first started, it was like, oh my God, this is like a way for an independent woman to be in charge of her sexy whatever porn. But then we realized, no,

it's all these different levels. And all this stuff. Content. Content. All content. But I'm saying what it originally was, it was like, oh my gosh. And it was good, cause it was like,

in my day there were, there's like a ton of really interesting documentaries about the porn industry in the Valley from 25 years ago. And I was like fascinated with like porn documentaries. Which one are you talking about? All of them, anything. I was, I was, there was like a, I don't know why I like, I was just fascinated by it.

The women, how they'd be interviewed, what they would say, what they would do. And even back then they were like, no, I love it, you know? And then there'd be someone that didn't love it, whatever. And I always found it interesting. Like whether it was the story of Tracy Lourdes, who was this girl who was doing porn and was making it huge.

And then they found out that she was actually under 18 when these movies were made. But then there was a whole thing was like, no, she knew what she was doing and she wanted this news to get out. And then she became like a mainstream real actress. So there was always this like, oh, if you do this, even like Boogie Nights, the movie of Boogie Nights, all that kind of stuff. And now, like that whole industry of like, OK, how many movies are you going to do, but you don't own it?

You're just an actress. That feels like that doesn't even exist anymore. Well, the scale is so different now because this bone has changed your life. I mean, the amount of people that you can reach instantly and secretively and control what's coming out, why would you go and work for someone else? Right. What's the point? If you have smart people that know how to market you, like this woman, and you have content that is great and and you're beautiful, and you're having fun, I mean, there's millions, if not billions,

of dollars that can be made, and you're in control of it, so you don't have to do anything that you don't wanna do, and you're in control of everything in your life. Yeah, I was gonna say something that's interesting to me is like, back in the day, people were lining up, like girls were lining up to pose nude in Playboy for free. Right. Basically free.

For $2500. There's so many girls that didn't get paid and they just want to do it for the fame or be around Hugh Hefner and all that stuff. So like it's interesting to me because the moment like female empowerment came into place and now all these girls are rising up and taking on their own stuff and doing their own businesses and becoming smarter is like kind of in the shift with OnlyFans coming out. And I think the biggest misconception

is that OnlyFans is all porn. Because when I first saw this industry, the only reason I even touched it because it was so drastically different from anything I did and I didn't wanna be in that space initially was because it's the exact same thing as an e-commerce store. So the only difference from like Fashion Nova, like the brand name Fashion Nova with all the products,

the only difference is that they're selling products and on this brand's website, which is the talent's name and has things for sale is that it's content. So it's actually ran very similarly to an e-commerce website. And so I helped creators create their own brands and I used to see that like, oh wow, there's only a certain percent that will buy a hairbrush

from this creator that even care about that, right? But 100% of their fans are following them to see more of them. And so if you put a paywall in front of it, there's people that will pay just to talk to them, just to ask them, what are you doing today? Or can I have a private tour of your room and your house and pay thousands of dollars where they're like,

here's my bedroom, this is my doggie fluff. Like the things that are being sold is insane just because it's more access to your favorite creator. So if you use it in that way, girls don't have to go fully nude or do that type of stuff. And so that's where our sweet spot has been, is that literally there's only like a very few select creators that actually show a nipple that are signed to me and the rest of them don't do any nudity. And so at the end of the day, we let the talent decide like, what do you want to do? It's their

choice 100%. But the main thing is that I think that the reason it monetizes so well is people are willing to pay for more access. If you think about Netflix, Netflix proved that the content is valuable enough and people will pay not to have to see an ad. And so it's the same thing now it's going into the creator space. People don't want to see you hold up your sponsored posts or say to buy this and buy that. People will pay to have content and more access to you. And so I think the world is changing and the paywall industry is becoming more and more powerful. So anything that you can pay to have access

or content without ads, people are doing. And I think it's gonna become bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. Like Instagram launched the subscription. Like everyone's trying to figure out how to do this. So I mean, does it kill your entrepreneurial math brain that Brittany is doing what she's doing and why is she not on an OnlyFans?

The reason why, I've tried to get her multiple times. The reason why is because she has to deal with like some very brand friendly, I think it's like Disney or someone is doing some big deal with her. So she can't be on OnlyFans or all good. But it's interesting because she's giving it for free. I don't know. I can't understand.

You're saying right now she can't sign. But but you think she was actually interested in possibly doing that? I would assume that she would have done based off what I've heard. Yes. I just I just made Britney Spears a 10 million dollar offer to sit down for a one hour interview Which she turned down? so Clearly and this was a real offer a real buyer. Well, thank you for representing me in that

Pointed that it did not work out I am willing to go down a couple mil if you want to go back ten million for one hour She doesn't need to do any. She doesn't want to do anything. And the people that are around her don't want her to do anything. And this was an offer that was made directly to her with no agents, no managers, just people that are really like with her saying, here's 10 million dollars. All you have to do is sit down for an hour.

I'm kind of glad that she turned it down because I feel like the feedback I got of where she is in her life right now, the interview wouldn't have gone well for her and you wouldn't have been able to maybe recover from whatever that comes out from that interview. And that's a sad, scary thing. But at the same time, my client wanted me to make the offer. I made the offer and here we are.

Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, that's been the thing that Spencer Pratt has said from the very beginning. Like, why is she just giving it all? Because no matter what, I mean, she's turned off the comments, but she'll still get hundreds of thousands of likes and views. And obviously she likes doing it because that's giving her some feedback while she's just alone in her house spinning around in her brown sensible pumps and bikini and fur hat.

But yeah, I guess she won't. But I think at one point maybe she will. I think the cool way to look at it too is like, I think a lot of these females started to realize that did go on OnlyFans, is like, they were all posting photos in bikinis and all this stuff for free. Right. And so now they're like, okay, you're gonna judge me

because now I'm selling that same photo I used to post for free. That's why it's like, yes, there's a lot of porn on OnlyFans, so there's girls that do porn, but there's a lot of girls that are literally selling the same photo that they could easily post for free on Instagram that wouldn't get shadow banned because it's aligned with Instagram's terms and services.

It's not porn. And they're selling it for like $50 a cell. And just something about the people buying that they have access to it, it's them, no one else is seeing it. It's kind of like an NFT in a weird way. Because it's like, it's got that feeling that like It's kind of like an NFT in a weird way. Yeah, it's like an NFT. It's got that feeling that like,

you're the only one that has this piece of content. And you've got to think, your phone, you're reaching the world. A DVD can only move as far as somebody walking in a store and buying it. This is access to everything. So the amount of money that's made so quickly, five years ago when I met Tara and we mutually represent Tana Mojo,

and I learned a whole business that I was trying to understand that she came and basically gave me the five bullet points of how this thing works. And once you understand how that works, you can cross everybody over into this side and into my side very easily. You just have to have the ability, the look, the style,

and the outlet to do it. And if you have that, you should make money on every side of the business. Now, in talking to the fans privately, you know, that type of thing, has it ever come where there is a scary moment or where someone does connect with a fan or maybe does wanna meet them in person

or does fall in love with a fan or like, has there ever been any, or gets to a scary like stalker type of place? Yeah, yeah, I mean, there's been girls that when they're talking to their fans have dealt with some interesting situations and I think there's more good than bad. But of course, I think once you're a big influencer

and you have a lot of fans, some people get, you know, stalkers and obsessed with them even before OnlyFans. Any girl that has millions of followers is probably has stalkers. I've had some of my friends tell me that like, they've had men like standing outside of their window. But that's anyone who's famous. It's not it's not attributed because of only fans.

It's a fame thing. If you're famous, that's going to happen. I'm sure you have stalkers. I'm sure there's no. Should we get you one? I have some weird haters, but I think they're too late. I think they're too lazy to leave their house. But that's the same thing.

You know, nothing to whatever. But yeah, you're right. I mean, that's just the thing. It's like, sadly you can find anybody, you know? And so it's just being like hyper vigilant around your surroundings when you're out and all that. But with, like with doing it, does it ever get to a place where someone is like, wow, if I do this,

maybe I do still wanna be an actor and this could affect my acting. Those days are over, I think. I don't know what you think. But I think those days are completely gone. What about when I sometimes think, oh, you know, this person's making two million a month. Does it like then par off?

Like, because it's like, okay, okay. I got to see my high school crush that was this movie star and I followed her for like a couple of months, but I am a horny dude and I only have so much money. So now I'm gonna go to another person. The problem is, is that the space is still new. And we were the first agency in this space. And so there's no one that's been around for 10 years,

five years in this space. It's still new, but we've been around five years. But people are only just now coming into this industry. So the data and understanding basically what an infrastructure should look like behind a creator to be successful on these paywall platforms is still new. So a lot of these celebrities that are launching,

they don't know who to go with. And there's random pop-up agencies that are like, we can do it, we can do it. So it's kind of like the wild, wild west in this industry because it's been taboo, so it's not much. Now you're taking like, you know, people that already have a following that you can really like get, but what if there is that person at home that's like pretty cute and attractive

and down to like just see, Hey, can I do something with this? And they don't have a big following and like, how would they start a following where it's worth it? Because it also takes a lot of time. I don't think people realize how much time it takes to get in the outfit, take the photos, make them look good, post it, write the captions, whatever it is, whether you're on Instagram or OnlyFans or whatever.

And so what is your advice to them? Well, what's interesting too is I've seen a lot of moms that are secretly on OnlyFans and their whole community doesn't know in their neighborhood and they're taking their kids to school, but they're secretly on OnlyFans because they don community doesn't know in their neighborhood and they're taking their kids to school, but they're secretly on OnlyFans because they don't promote it on their socials. So there's ways that you can do it fully undercover

and not put your real name. And what's cool about OnlyFans is there's no search discovery, they do that so that everyone has privacy. It's like you basically send a link just to yourself. But to do that, if you wanted to start out, you could go to girls OnlyFans and message them and be like, hey, I'll pay you to shout me out. And so you pay them to post about you, and you can get traffic like that without ever publicly showing anyone you have one.

And so there's a huge market on OnlyFans that are secretly doing it because they are scared that people would judge them. But yeah, it just depends. I always say that any creator that wants to do it, I never push a creator or talent to do it. I'm like, it's your decision because you're gonna have to live with the decision. If that's something you actually,

I never wanna sign anyone that's like, I don't know, I'm worried about this, this, or this. I'm like, well then don't do it until you feel confident and good about it. And what do they say, I'm worried about what? Like, will I ever marry a nice doctor? Would my parents be disappointed? Yeah, or like my parents would think,

or like what if I wanna have kids and now there's these photos out on the internet? It's like, well then you shouldn't do that content. You should only do what you're comfortable living with being on the internet, because it is the internet. Right. You know? Yeah.

And so what other, like is it interesting to see when someone is like, I had, you know, Dreya DiMatteo from Sopranos and she started joining, she joined like two years ago at 51. And she's, you know, hot and sexy and what a great following she has of the kind of hot, her character was so appealing to such a broad audience, but of men. So it's like, oh my God, I can see, you know, my favorite girl from Sopranos and do all the things.

And she said, you know, like it paid her mortgage within like hours of being on it or whatever it was. And so do you see that an influx of like older actresses coming on? Yes, I heard of like older actresses coming on? Yes, I heard of another new actress that's about to come on. Yeah, I do see it's an influx of that. I personally think it's because when you're when you have a following on the Internet, you can't actually monetize it well if you're a girl that has a male following,

unless you're maybe doing TV or film. But like, you're not going to get brand deals. It's really hard. What are you gonna promote? A male product? Like, because that's the only thing that your fans will buy, so then most businesses don't really wanna work with you, so they don't know how to monetize, but they have this huge following and a ton of engagement, so that you're the perfect person to start an OnlyFans.

And so it makes sense why they're doing it, but I do see a lot of these celebrities launching and they're launching with bad teams, and then they have a spike and then they go like this. Okay, so now let me ask you about this. What about all the stuff we hear about that was going on for the last 15 years, it might still be going on, where the girls go on,

they're yachting girls, they're going on the Dubai trip. That's a different thing. They're being invited. That's totally different. I know that's different. I know that's different. That's called prostitution. They're being invited. That's totally different. I know that's different. I know that's different. That's called prostitution. That's different.

I know that's not what you guys do. No. But like, what is your- This is tech entrepreneurship. Right, but I'm just saying, what, like we're just talking shit here. Like what is your thought? Is there ever a safe-

She said thought. Is there ever- What's her thought? Is there ever a safe way to be one of those girls that goes on the trip, gets the money, maybe gets the air May bag and comes back without a humiliating life changing story? I don't really know that world that well,

but I did grow up in LA and I've had, I'm around a bunch of wealthy successful men that have told me that they've seen very famous influencers and creators on something called The List. And The List has every, there's also very big celebrities on it. And The List has a price for how much you can pay to spend the night with this person.

And there's some people that I've heard that are on it that I'm like, what? I've never seen The List. But I've had wealthy, successful men. And there's like- And it's shock, like I've heard that too. And it's like legit movie stars. Yes, there's a lot of movie stars on it.

There's some big top models that you would never ever think would- So this is like personal appearance to the next level. This is, that's like prostitution, personal appearance. It's the highest, it's the high, high, high expensive. That's insane. Yes, yes. So there's like and supposedly like Supposedly you have to like you have to be a very successful vetted man to like get the list

I don't know this is what I know that you're like just like you're gonna show someone a house It's like I need to know that you have 10 million in the bank before I even take you to this house Yeah, so it's like yeah, you'd have to be vetted to know that you can pay this, that you're safe, that you're- Pre-approval letter. Yeah, you need approval. You're financed up to 10 million in Dubai voting with this person. That's, I think that was the most shocking thing for me

about being in LA and being in this industry is hearing that type of stuff. Like that there's powerful women that have done those types of things. And I think that as much as people wanna shit on OnlyFans, and trust me, most of the population does, it has brought in the power back to the females to be like, don't touch me,

you're not gonna see me in person. You can look at my photos that other girls are posting for free, but you better pay me for it. Like, it's kind of empowering. Think about how many jobs you get. I think the difference is, when I was talking about my fascination with, you know, porn

stars who liked doing porn, you remember like back in the day they would go to the, there would be conventions and they'd sign things and they had products and the Jenna Jamesons. And then there was also this book that I was fascinated with, which was, you'll never make love in this town again, which was the inspiration for my book, which is You'll Never Blue Ball in This Town Again. I thought all the people I dated didn't find. But it was this really juicy book that was basically about high class suckers in LA in the 90s that were either product of, you know, Heidi Fleiss, who was like the biggest, you know, and then the person that she kind of basically stole the black book from was this like other

older lady. And in the stories were were like juicy, but they were tragic, like they were not there was not a happy ending to any of those stories. And it's really kind of nice and refreshing to know that as a pretty girl, you can, and not necessarily be a prostitute or anything, but you could use your looks. That is your gift. That is one of your gifts, that you are attractive, that you are desirable, and that you can use it and be safe and write your own story and do it for as long as you want or do that thing. You know, it used to be that you had to be, oh, I'm just stripping to get in my medical degree.

Like all that kind of stuff that always existed, you know, now it's here. It's helped the industry a lot. And it's much better and safer. And I think that when I was talking, because when we first started, there was not one mainstream person on OnlyFans. So I used to talk to the founder a lot of OnlyFans.

And I think that was the saddest thing that I saw him go through, is how many people just ripped him apart and this company apart when they've actually brought in so much safety to so many females and changed so many lives and helped so many people get out of debt by their family. Like the amount of money that has been given to so many good people on the internet,

like they're actually good creators, a lot of them care. It's just been, it's been really cool to see. And so that was, I know like one of the biggest reasons he was like, it's a lot to handle. Like the press constantly trying to pick him apart and you know, it's a, it's a sexualized industry. So it's really easy to make you look bad in this industry, very easy.

And so I think there's a lot of people that hate watching these beautiful women make money with their looks. They hate it, they want to rip them apart. And so it's not an easy industry to be in. Do you have people that really kind of specialize in having the feet? Like what do you mean? Like how people say,

oh, people would pay this much just for the feet. Yeah, there's so many niches on the platform. It's wild. I mean, I don't really see them because I don't have the accounts. What about just what I call like just an armpit vagina If I just if I just do a long series of just like hey That could work

Fabulous it is this is she's more than the one percenter business You could either hang out with your wife and be funny all weekend for a price if you're rich enough or I could just take photos of this. Should we do it? Should we do just for the audience and the fans should you have a test? Only fans page doesn't have to be poor and doesn't have to be risque. Yeah, let's just see what can be sold Um, it might be a fun example I'm not like afraid of anything like that. I think that you would have women like Tana.

She has a lot of women that they talk to her all day. And I feel like you're like a powerful female and girls would maybe just pay to just talk to you and ask you for advice. Yeah, because you have to reverse engineer what you're selling. You can use it as an outlet to answer questions, to get a shout out, to get sent a video. It has cameo elements to it too. So it's like, you wanna buy this video of me saying this, here it is, now I can show everybody, now I can do this. So it's taking this world and figuring out

how do you create those businesses to sell to on a huge platform. And what about, have you ever found it difficult for couples, like the girl starts to really do it and at first the guy is okay with it and then she's heartbroken because he's not, which is like, fuck you dude. For sure. It's a tough world out there. Yeah, if you can't enjoy the benefits of all of this.

But have you ever had to counsel a friend slash client in that? Yes, I remember I had a girl come sit with me one time. She made like 150K a month, and she sat me down and said her new relationship doesn't want her to have an OnlyFans, so she's going to delete it. And then I remember being like, okay, yeah, if you want to, I was like, okay, just make sure you know

that you're gonna be with this person. And she's like, no, I am. And then she deleted it. And then fast forward one year, he cheated on her. And then she came to my office and said, that was the worst mistake I made. She's making 300,000 on that. Did she come back?

Did she come back? We started her from scratch, so it was really hard. I always, you know, that's the thing. It's like sometimes when people think, with any kind of guy, I remember my friend being like, you know, even girls that think like, oh, I'll go for the guys. He's not the sexiest, he's not the hottest,

but I'm so much cuter than he. Like, he'll be such a safe bet, he'll worship me forever. I'm like, then that guy is like, I can't believe I got this fabulous woman. I must really be the shit. And then they go and cheat. So there's go for the best. That's so true. The guy you're attracted to, the guy that has money, the guy that's worthy of you. Don't ever go below your standard and think that that's going to make you a more loyal partner because it's not. I love that. It was like, the saying is like,

if you settle for less than you deserve, you'll get exactly what you settled for. Yeah. Very true. Yeah, very true. Well, I loved talking to you guys and tell everybody where they can follow you and find you. And if they are interested,

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