Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Hollywood Jealousy Goes International with Countess Luann

Episode Date: June 21, 2022

I’m back from the best weekend ever in Napa! Father’s Day on Instagram was a whole thing. Who will get Wendy’s purple chair? How will the new restrictions for trans-athletes affect preteens? Amb...er Heard pulled an Erika Jayne and is shopping at TJ Maxx. RHOBH Diane Jenkins might regret joining the show. How did Crystal lose 14 friends? Lisa is still coming for Kathy. Then Luann shares her Cabaret show and how the two casts for RHONY may look. We discuss why we think the Ultimate Girls’ Trip shows should continue and her possible spinoff. Then I cover the must-haves every girl needs in her closet with celebrity stylist Jen Principe.  Subscribe on Apple Podcasts to get exclusive Extra Juicy episodes every Friday and get all episodes of Juicy Scoop, ad-free Or get access to Extra Juicy on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop To bring your brand to life in this podcast, email podcastadsales@sonymusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Head of McDonald Has got the juices scoop When you're on the road, when you're on the go Juice is scoop is the show to know She talks Hollywood tales Her real life, Mr. Sanctuary, real data And serial sister, you'll be addicted And a-ticks it fast
Starting point is 00:00:21 To the number one tabloid real life podcast Listen in, listen up. Hannah McDonald. Juicy scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy scoop. I am back from my Napa Valley weekend and boy was it fun. I'm going to tell you the whole deal. So it was a brand new Julie, you know know from my show, Justin Martin Dale and his boyfriend
Starting point is 00:00:46 Evan and my friend Liz and Mark and of course Peter. So we went up Thursday, checked into our VRBL, which was very nice. It was just like a house-wise moment where everyone ran to the rooms. Justin I'd sent him the VRBL and he had already picked out his room and all the rooms were a name. I got Shardine just and got Cabernet. There were like little kid rooms upstairs that were like petite Sera. Anyway, so we get our room and we go to Brasswood in Napa Valley. It is a beautiful restaurant and cafe and winery and we had so much fun. I thought that was going to be a
Starting point is 00:01:26 mellow night. I was like, oh, I have a beautiful glass of wine and you know, nice salad. No, we stayed so long. The owner of markets was crazy, amazing. Like, it was literally out of a movie. So we eat in the restaurant, then we go outside to the garden and the guys are having cigars. Then like an extra pizza comes out even like a second dinner. Then we go into like this wine cave and then to this other place and to this sitting room and it was just a lot of red wine. Next morning wake up I have to get ready for my shows but we still go to Pride winery in honor of Pride Month but it was been called Pride for a long time.
Starting point is 00:02:05 And then we went to Raymond, which is really fun. And then I got on stage, and it's not the greatest photo of me, but it's the only one I have for me being on stage. Thank you, Lisa. And the outfit was cuter when the jacket was closed. Okay, then wake up. Wake up here, and I go for a walk. I mean, this is just like, listen,
Starting point is 00:02:25 I've got Brandon putting together a longer like TikTok to music about what a fun week it was. Then we walked around St. Helena and it's like, everything is so freaking cute. There's a bunch of consignment stores and Peter and I were thinking maybe it's like, you're the rich wife, your husband is the Silicon Valley billionaire and you've got to show
Starting point is 00:02:45 a couple losses. So take your rich person clothes and sell it at these consignment stores. Tell me, have you not noticed that if you've gone into Napa or St. Helinas? Because the stores are open from 12 to 5 on a Saturday. Doesn't sound like a real hungry entrepreneur is working in that store. Anyway, walk around, go to an Oprah's cute bakery place called Model Bakery, the best English muffin in the world, eat. Now we're in the sprinter van, and we are going to Rumbauer. Todd showed us everything. We had this, oh, this was so beautiful.
Starting point is 00:03:19 I was harassed by the paparazzi, which was super annoying. I guess they knew I was going there. And then I had, they call Rumbauer, they have three names that they call it. They call it Mombauer, Danville Crack, because Danville is like a Ritsey community in Northern California. And my favorite, Housewife Heroin, and it really is. I love their Charnai, but I had, I love their, someone here I'm like, I like all the wines. It's a beautiful place. So this, we go there, we go in the caves, we look at the barrels, then we went to Hall Winery. Oh, we ate lunch at Brasswood in between, we went to Hall Winery, which was like, felt like a private estate. Drink a lot of red wine there. Oh my god. Just so
Starting point is 00:04:02 much fun. Then came back to the house and rallied, went to dinner, woke up the next morning, recapped the weekend. Just it was seriously like the movie Wine Country, but with not all women. So fun. Then it was Father's Day. Let's talk about Father's Day. Well, Nick Cannon, as you know, he has nine children. A couple on the way, we'll make nine. And only six, wait, let me see. Only a few of the baby mamas wished him a happy father's day on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:04:37 And as you know, if it doesn't happen on Instagram, it didn't happen at all. You can't just pick up the phone or send a card. You have to post about it. I did think, I did see a very interesting tech talk about Nick Cannon, in which there's a theory going around that he suffers from some health issues. Apparently he has something I want to say, but whatever he has, if it progresses, sometimes there's kidney failure.
Starting point is 00:05:08 And so these people are wondering, is he having all these kids in case one day he needs to get an organ donation? I think it's kind of a stretch. It might be like a happy like, hey, I didn't plan on having nine kids, but thank God, if something like that happens like i got all these kids i don't know who's gonna give it up but anyway that's why i love tiktok uh... leesa
Starting point is 00:05:34 who is married to the plastic surgeon on my amy she wasn't happy with uh... her situation on father's day she took a gorgeous photo of herself and her two chair children and she wrote happy father's day to all the amazing dads out there who put their family first. But it's just her and her two kids. She's the only one putting that family first. So there's a lot of snark in there.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Tristan Thomas. Thompson. Tristan Thompson. Hollywood Unlocked said that it reportedly, he has made no immediate plans to meet his son Theo as Marley Nichols awaits child support payments. So I don't know how they know this, I don't know what she did, but in the meantime, he did see his daughter Truv who has with Chloe and they went and had a cute lunch. And then Chris Jenner posted all the fathers in her life, which include, of course, Rob, Travis, who's Kylie's baby daddy.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Caitlin, who is Kendall and Kylie's baby daddy. No, I mean father father The other Travis has his kids with Courtney. I mean with his other wife Anyway, who cares you know what we got we got Kanye We got Robert Kardashian senior, but it just kind of there's a lot I Do kind of wonder because she's so organized Chris Jenner, is this this has got to be all planned ahead of time. She's not laying in the bed like the rest of us, like finding eight photos. Pretty great. Okay. Well Rob Kardashian didn't get a father's day gift today because I told you I've been following the Rob and Shina trial and my boys Stevenango, was getting his cute court look together when he found it online.
Starting point is 00:07:30 They are not starting the trial today. They have settled. So the jurors are sent home. I don't know what the settlement is. I assume we won't know. That's usually, but I think it's very wise on everyone's part. This was sad, as you know, Wendy Williams is finishing and some people were really disappointed in the way that they concluded that last show of Wendy. Now they'll have a little break
Starting point is 00:07:55 and then in the fall, we'll start with Sherry Shepherd. Sherry Shepherd said some nice words, but Wendy wasn't there and now staffers are telling page six that they're just gonna throw out anything that she didn't pick up which is nothing she there's her wigs are gonna get tossed and the iconic purple chair. I mean I can't believe that they listen this is just someone talking to page six. I would think that if you've worked there for eight years or whatever, even if you haven't talked to Wendy in this last year because it's a weird situation, really you're just going to throw it out in the dumpster. Why wouldn't you just, I'm sure, just like, you know what, I'll take it home.
Starting point is 00:08:35 So, I highly doubt that you're going to be able to walk around the studio and find it on its side with a rat running through it. I think someone is going to make sure they take it home. Anyway, the whole situation is just a real bummer because the show went on for so long. As you know, I have my Wendy Robe, I have my Wendy Cup. I got to be on the show a bunch of times.
Starting point is 00:08:57 It was so fun. I wish Sherry the best has nothing to do with Sherry. She deserves the show too. I just feel badly that Wendy found herself this situation, and it all seemed to happen once it was revealed that her husband was not only having enough air, but had a child on the way, then they got divorced. It was in her case, then she did those two movies, one the documentary, one the lifetime movie about her life.
Starting point is 00:09:23 And when she shared the breakup of the marriage, and then she still was doing the show, won the lifetime movie about her life, and when she shared the breakup of the marriage, and then she still was doing the show, and then it was after that that, now we just don't really know why, why she left and didn't come back. We don't know if it's part of her grave's disease, if she's struggling with something else, if she's just over it. But I mean, it's just, anyway, people are bummed about it and myself included. So, Leah Thompson is the transgender woman, as you know, that really had a lot of controversy
Starting point is 00:09:57 happening because when she was living as a boy, she was like 155th ranked in the men's swimming. And then when she transitioned at 22 years old into a female Leah, she won all these medals and her teammates at college pretty much didn't say anything because you can't. And anyway, they have now said, the head of the swimming said, no, if you are a trans man and want to compete against biological females you will have had to transition by
Starting point is 00:10:35 12 you will have to be on the hormones and everything but and living your life as a girl with the hormones and as a 12 year old because they believe it is not fair being that a biological man's body has broader shoulders, a larger lung capacity along with being taller and bigger muscle mass but those two things are really a big deal in the art in the sport of swimming. So kind of interesting that they say that when at the same time there's this movement that's saying like, we shouldn't be giving kids these drugs at this young age yet to successfully transition and possibly play the sport you want to play, you've got to take this anyway. It's a lot and it's a lot for Pride Month, but there you go.
Starting point is 00:11:27 And JLo, she, her Netflix specials out, I've yet to see it, though everyone says, I should, and I will, because I do enjoy her. She said that my mom beat the shit out of me. She said, um, she, meaning her mother, did what she had to do to survive, and it made her strong, but it also made her tough, and she beat the shadow to be. Well, I kind of like the honesty, and a lot of kids, a lot of adults that are of a certain age may have gotten hit as a part of discipline. I think we know better now.
Starting point is 00:12:08 I think, you know, that's just, and also culturally, sometimes that was considered okay. But pretty juicy. I don't know how the mom feels about it. I always remember the mom won the lottery. Not the lottery. I want to say she won the lottery and then she also looked this up. I want to say she won the lottery, and then she also looked this up. I want to say she won the lottery literally. And she also had a huge win at a casino one time.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Besides winning the lottery with J. Loas, your daughter. Like, she's literally won some stuff. She won 2.4 million slots jackpot. Oh, she won 2. four million in the slots jackpot so I guess that makes the blow a little easier that your daughter is saying that telling the world that you hit her. Jennifer Lopez speaking of her daughter she introduced her twin she's twins boy girl twins the one that she introduced last night to sing Emma has been singing with her couple times she else performed at the halftime show I think with the they then pronoun.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Did I say she? Well, we don't know though. I think it's new. I think it's new but there's a little bit of a confusion because I think at first people thought she was talking about her twins together. Like, they sometimes don't want me to bring them out to shine, but I am something like that. But here they are, and then just one person came out,
Starting point is 00:13:35 which is the daughter named Emma. So, or the human named Emma. Anyway, it's been a big month and then also Tori Spellings Husband or X hasn't to be I don't even know but Dean McDermott he announced that his older son. I think the one that is Tori stepson is gay and then his other son is a trans girl Okay Amber heard has continued to fight back and releases. He said she's going to release years worth of therapy notes detailing allegations of
Starting point is 00:14:16 physical abuse by Johnny Depp. We saw a little bit of this on the today's show. It was all part of a long date line. I was just watching our local news and they said interestingly, it was like a very, very low rated date line episode featuring Amber herd. And I kind of thought, well, probably because a lot of people that watch date line listen to juicy scoop and I've covered this thoroughly and they're like over it. But um, still found it kind of interesting. I don't know. But you know what? I don't know if I'll watch it. It's in my DVR. I'm like, I got it. I got what you're saying. She's basically
Starting point is 00:14:50 saying that, you know, nobody came forward. No one is coming forward. But me because look what happened when I came forward. My life is ruined. You know, people are sending Heather Mcdonald fake turds for her birthday because my name is Amber Turd now. And it happened, okay? I have all this evidence that they wouldn't allow in this trial that says something differently. I was also thinking though, if your doctor that you're reporting this to
Starting point is 00:15:19 was taking notes, as a doctor, it is his duty, just like a school nurse or a teacher or anything like that. When you say you're being abused, they have to report it. They have to go to the police. So, who's this doctor that you're reporting this to about being physically abused, who then didn't go to the police? Was that person being paid off by Johnny Depp too? that you're reporting this to about being physically abused, who then didn't go to the police. Was that person being paid off by Johnny Depp too? I mean, that, I find very, very weird.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Anyway, she called the paparazzi and said, go into TJ Maxx and show me shopping. They just happen to be inside TJ Maxx, just like they happen to be outside and inside Walmart when Pete Davidson was, you know, hanging out with St. So it's interesting because, you know, these are places I go. I don't see paparazzi. However, when I was at Rumbauer walking the gardens, the paparazzi was there and it was just, I kind of freaked out, so I'm just swarming you guys like I don't get me canceled but we were like very very harassed and you could just you could go to my instagram or
Starting point is 00:16:29 take talk and reels wherever I posted it everywhere just because I want people to be aware of like absolutely how invasive it is so I feel for Amber heard when you're just shopping for some clothes to let the world know that you're just a regular girl that meant to give seven million to children's hospital and the ACLU but didn't okay because your ex was suing you so but that was your intention and now you're just a single mother who has a huge bill on her hands and she's gonna go to the same TJ Maxx that Erica Jane went to.
Starting point is 00:17:06 And apparently TMZ is very familiar with that, that TJ Maxx. So good for her. Major weird behind the scenes, social media juice on the real housewives of Beverly Hills. On Wednesday's episode, a couple things happen. Diane Jenkins, who is the newest housewife. She's 48 or 49. She's a one-year-old baby with her second baby daddy. She came from Bosnia, was very poor,
Starting point is 00:17:35 lived like war-torn, like horrible childhood, got out there, she's very pretty, and she's extremely rich. When she divorced the husband who she is, they dealt kids with, it's my understanding, she got $250 million. She has a jet, so when Doreet says, I don't know, PK, I'm just feeling so weird
Starting point is 00:17:53 after the robbery. He says, you know what, take the girls, go, you know what, go to Puntaminta, that's what you do, you go to Puntaminta after you get robbed at gunpoint, you go to Puntaminta, get Robb Dick gunpoint. You go to Putamita. She goes to Putamita. She's like, you know, at the hotel, like, gave me a room, though. It's a balcony right outside on the first floor mind you. And so I have having anxiety.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Anyway, they're there having some fun and, um, and Lisa Renekos, ah, can everybody Diane Sheikah's about your beautiful book, Room 23, because she modeled in it. It was just a bunch of people in a room naked. I wish I could see it, but apparently it's $500 and also out of print. Diane says, I think I already told the story. I don't think I want to talk about it. I have to work on her accent. Anyway, she said, I think I want to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Don't talk about it. They cut to her interviews and she's like, I did this book, the intention was good. Eric Jane's like, Yes, very sex positive, very beautiful, very sexual, very much about the body, about the woman's body. And so there were articles written about this book and a lot of deep dive reddits that believed that this was a book of clients and their customers, that it was like a, you know, call girl kind of a thing. And was she a call girl at one time? There was rumors about that. There
Starting point is 00:19:26 was rumors that somehow she even jokes. She goes apparently people thought I was some big sex trafficker, some international sex trafficker. Absolutely not true. Well now there is photos of her hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein. Who else was in that photo? The Jeffrey Epstein photo. Anyway, but listen, people hung out with Jeffrey Epstein. Doesn't mean that they were, but listen, people hung out with Jeffreeibstein. Doesn't mean that they were, you know, that you could be at a party with Harvey Weinstein too. It doesn't mean that you slept with them or you were delivering women to him. However, I don't know what that is. I mean, I could think of a scenario of where the rumors started. Doesn't mean it's true,
Starting point is 00:20:01 but I assume she's a very beautiful woman. She might have known another, a lot of other really beautiful women, and she's with a really rich guy or husband, and he's got all these powerful people coming. And you know what, let's have some beautiful eye candy. Let's have some classy, gorgeous looking women. And if they want to partake in something with who they meet with after okay. I don't I'm just saying that could have been how the rumor started. I don't think at any time was she like booking it like Heidi flies and give me 10% or anything like that. But maybe that's where these stories started of like this elite crowd that would go out
Starting point is 00:20:42 on you know yachts and they go out on the yachts because you're out in the sea and there's no jurisdiction and now you know these powerful people and just like you're the person that has the yacht or the person that brings the great ball of wine maybe also that person that has the really hot gorgeous girls that like rich men and buying purses. I don't know but she does, this book was not a good move for her and she is able to whatever, laugh it off, but she does end up a tears later that night because I think she's starting to freak out that the book was brought up. The Lisa Renett won, she's in it, but two, I think she's like, I know that would be kind
Starting point is 00:21:21 of choose you to talk about. So, um, meanwhile, Crystal has now profusely apologized to Sutton for saying when Sutton said, I had a little international supermajikusy. I had my daughter, she had two of her African American friends, she had a Chinese friend, and she had a red head Catholic girl, And I said, that is what I want. So Crystal goes, okay, I'm sorry. I thought it was problematic. I guess nobody did. I use the wrong words, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:21:54 And she said, I'm like, you better just tell. Say it to my face, say you'll never do that to me again, because I know you've done it to some other people. I know you've done it to some other people with your 14 friends that dumped you. So we'll get into that in a minute. Apparently Crystal had 14 friends that dumped her. And I have some theories about that. But first we go back to the Diane Jenkins because she had quite a weekend. First she had to deal with this then on friday morning or saturday morning i think
Starting point is 00:22:27 uh... some shit went down she uh... there's this this instagram account that found a photo of diane jankens and wrote uh... look how different she looked
Starting point is 00:22:43 whatever eight years ago and posted it and had a very small following and dianne jankens went after this person and was like really this photo was twenty pounds thinner and i was it was that this uc a law thing where i was talking about war torn bosnia and you know so she's pissed she's like now i didn't have like a book ton of plastic surgery fuck off
Starting point is 00:23:04 whatever And, you know, so she's pissed. She's like, no, I didn't have like a ton of plastic surgery of fuck off, whatever. So then the woman is like, oh, I'm getting all this press from it. I just started being, you know, posting about things like this. This is what gets her in trouble. She says, Diane Jenkins says, let me see, so if she goes, can't be the same woman. And then, Dan Jenkins, whose Instagram is very weird. It's SDJ and E-U-R-O.
Starting point is 00:23:35 I don't know if that's answer, but that's her Instagram. She goes, it can't feel good being a black content creator. The black capitalized. Oh, interesting that you caught that. it can't feel good being a black content creator ooo interesting that you caught that so uh... any caught the fact that in this sentence she wrote black with a capital b according to that i and jankens to dint
Starting point is 00:24:02 she didn't know it was anything bad to do. She didn't know it was anything bad to do. Crystal called her up what the fuck is this about. So then she wrote, oh my god, Crystal just called me with the fuck of this about. I had no idea that this person was black as in the color of her skin. I thought a Instagram account that writes this kind of snorkey shit about someone having plastic surgery not looking good i thought that was like black content
Starting point is 00:24:31 uh... but i don't know how someone might say black comedy is dark comedy black comedy about whatever death or something that's what she's claiming you should believe her because even though she's got multi-multimillion millions of dollars and has been a mother for a long time and is almost 50, she didn't come from
Starting point is 00:24:55 America. She does also speak four languages and she spoke at this very important conference at UCLA as she said, this important conference at UCLA. As she said, this law conference at UCLA, she's an author. She did a big book. You can't get mad at her because she was not born in America. She's an immigrant, so therefore give her a break. Meanwhile she said that Sutton was yelling at her and that Sutton's words are sloppy and this and that, or clumsy. She said Sutton, you're
Starting point is 00:25:31 clumsy or awkward, you're this. So all I can say is this woman has so much money. She's very attractive. She, oh, she also has a team of people that go anytime she travels and they go to the hotel and set it up and make sure that everything is beautiful and like the pillows are right and the pillowcase is right and there's like the right scent going on in the room, maybe like a spurs and diffuser. But I think it could also be for security reasons that they make sure that so you're not on the bottom floor like to eat like you're making sure everything's safe and secure. There's no bugs in the room.
Starting point is 00:26:04 They're I don't know. I mean, I guess that's what they would do if like secret service or something. Also, you're just rich and why not? You know, she said, I've never been shopping. I've never this. I've never that. And that was the other thing. This woman was kind of mocking her at, which was pissed her off. Because she's like, was this the face of a person that has never been inside a regular store or what? I just think she's got to wake up and be like, why the hell did I go on real housewives of Beverly Hills? So I don't know what's gonna happen with her, but yeah. I just guess because you think you're like Eric Jane
Starting point is 00:26:38 and you think you're so above it that you, even if you're doing shady things in your life or you have kind of a controversial background that could be misconstrued or talked about. I think you're just like, why not? I'll be famous too. I'm beautiful. I'm rich. I'll be famous too. Get ready. This was pretty fun. Okay, so now let's get back. Alex by linked by Aileen too, which is a Twitter account at Mary Solskubb, his her name. She took the classic photo of Teresa flipping the table
Starting point is 00:27:07 and said, me to Crystal, you were dropped by friends 14 times? Thought that was funny. So this is what I think happened with Crystal and her 14 friends. From the research that I've done, these girls look pretty normal. They don't look like the cupcake girls from Newport that are all size zero and all around the same age. They look like they're probably wealthy women and they look a little older than Crystal. So I think she made friends with a lot of
Starting point is 00:27:36 these kind of powerful women, very rich women through her husband's business and being a director and whatever. And she kind of got put on this list and she got to be invited to the People's Birthday, which was probably once or twice a month. They'd probably, if there's 14 of them, you got to figure there's got to be a girls' dinner at least once or twice a month. And that's what I think she was going to. We're in Beverly Hills and they're rich. I think what happened was probably a handful of them over the years have been approached to be on real housewives of Beverly Hills and maybe they considered it maybe they really wanted it. Crystal probably shit on it and then she got it and they were like that's what I think happened. I've heard it happen with other
Starting point is 00:28:22 franchises before and you know I can see why they chose Crystal. She is a woman of color. We wanted to see different experiences and different people. She's younger. I think they wanted younger and I think she's been an interesting hit. I mean we're talking about it. I like her as a person. But probably some of these other women that are kind of circling the drain to get on for a while might have found it to be hypocritical that she took it. And, or maybe they're just bummed that she took it. But I think there was something that she must have said
Starting point is 00:28:57 or done. Maybe they were all being interviewed at the same time. And they somehow believe that maybe she sabotaged their chance or whatever. But they can only include one or two new people max every season. So it's either you or me. I mean, for what she told me, she was like, I didn't seek it out, I didn't think it was going to be true. So I don't really think she was pursuing it until they approached her.
Starting point is 00:29:20 So she also may have, like I said, shit on in the past. And then somehow there's probably some jealousy there and Because she was younger and didn't have the history with the other women. They're just like yeah, she's out She's out of the group you guys she's out of the group also We don't want her knowing our personal business if she's going to be on this housewife show and being out as a public figure That could also be it. I remember I was supposed to go to dinner with a very with a rich billionaire female women party out in san barbran i was really excited to meet these women
Starting point is 00:29:52 and the minute my friend who is bringing me along told them that i was coming they were like no and i'm like all my god so i mean i think they're like we just we don't want like some comedian there I mean I really think they just might have thought like I I want to talk about like these are my
Starting point is 00:30:14 I'm gonna dinner with six people This is these are my good friends. I want to talk about the stuff I don't want to worry about like who else is there or whatever. So that's me just, my own, just philosophy of knowing women, relationships, rich women and TV. And what I think may have happened, but I don't know that anybody really knows the truth. If you do, write me. Meanwhile, Kathy, Hilton and Lisa Rennah
Starting point is 00:30:40 are still going at each other, even though Patrick Summers has disappeared. That was the kid that started the controversy from a couple weeks ago. Reality rundown had this. Kathy, who's still friends with Crystal, number I went to dinner with them for the book party for brazen, Julia Hart. Kathy sees a, so Crystal does a little cute photo of her dog. And Kathy goes so sweet, okay?
Starting point is 00:31:08 That's it. Lisa renters, turns off her phone from dancing, okay? Hikes up her free, free people's sweat. And gets out the phone and was like, oh, writes under Kathy's comment at Kathy Hilton. I remember when you first got the show, you called me and said what Kim said about Harry, she made it all up and did that right. And I said, I know she did Kathy.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Just flashed on that today for some reason. Oof, you're so angry. So basically, Lisa Rennin just really wants to say in this fight and talk about it. She knows that these people follow this type of stuff and it's not hard. If you want to write a comment under someone's post, you're verified and it's anything that you'll with a housewives, one of 20 Instagram accounts will catch it and make a story about it and Heather McDonald and Joseph Scoot might be talking about it. So she knows what she's doing.
Starting point is 00:32:18 So I think she just wants to just solidify that forever rumor when Kim's like, let's talk about the husband. That there's nothing to talk about Harry Hamlin, except if you wanna talk about his sauce, his compost, or his great gardening skills, okay? That's it. If you want anything else to talk about, we're not talking about it, okay?
Starting point is 00:32:41 So, there you go. Meanwhile, her daughter, Amelia Gray, who used to date Scott Disick, they covered their eyebrows in this awful look where you put like white cream on your eyebrows. You have no eyebrows. And they're licking lollipops and barely dressed her and Julia Fox. Julia Fox, we thought went away. But I told you guys, the drought in L.A. is really, really bad. It's going to be in a serious place like you're not supposed to water your lawns.
Starting point is 00:33:12 And these girls are really thirsty. They're getting really thirsty, even though Julia is on the east coast, she came in dehydrated, so thirsty. And they're trying to get some, you know, some hydration from these lollipops and having no brows. I hate this no brow look. This is a look that has gone in and out of style since 1900. The dawn I did it at one point.
Starting point is 00:33:35 I think it looks awful. I don't want it to come back, but look, it got us talking about it. Just interesting that she dated Kanye and she dated Scott Disick and it's, you know, a couple days before Father's Day, so whatever. Now I'm very excited you guys. I get to talk to Luanne, Dilliceps, had a great interview with her and here we go. We're going to hear all the juice in New York. Well, people are out and about. They're joining the gym
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Starting point is 00:35:27 slew and welcome. Hi Heather, very good to see you. I haven't seen you in ages. I know and I'm going to see you on the 23rd here in LA. I was thinking about it. This is almost is this like kind of like your fourth round of
Starting point is 00:35:44 shows or tour or per se? Like, I feel like you started quite a while ago now. Yeah, I started in 2018 and the last time I was in LA, I played the Wilterin, which was amazing. It was a sold-out show and packed to the gills. Did you come to that show? I don't think I came to that one, but I've seen you twice in New York. I also saw you at Brawville con seen you twice in New York. I also
Starting point is 00:36:05 saw you at Brawville con. Oh, right. Okay. I played Brawville con, right? So the last time I was in all I played the Wilter and it was so exciting because we had done something with the doorbells with Andy Cohen at that theater and to be back there and actually be playing it on my own was amazing. And, you know, I had, you know, Molly Shannon came and Terry Hatcher and all these celebrities come, it was incredible. And so it's exciting to be back in LA and play the iconic L-Ray theater. I'll be there four nights, you know, the 23rd to the 26th.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Yes. So super excited to bring an all-new show. I have a new director now who is Kristen Chenowicz director, the queen of Broadway's director, and you know he's been vet midler's director and Barba Streisand. And so I'm working with the best in the business. I work really hard to bring a great show to the stage. And you know I'm excited to feature my new song, F-Bombs on the G-Forward, The OGs, which is spun off of the ultimate girls trip because I always get inspired. That's how I write my music.
Starting point is 00:37:12 That's how I wrote my new camp by class in Chic-Ce Libby and feel and joe Vanigas. It feels so good. So I always get inspired by the ladies. This show is no different. I, you'll see that, new song by the ladies. This show is no different. You know, you'll see that new song in the show. I do a Q&A with the audience and we talk everything house-wise,
Starting point is 00:37:31 which is a lot of fun. I've got some great video packages. And I take some classic cabaret songs and I turn them on their heads. And I sing a lot of my favorite music that I personally like to sing in all the songs I pick myself in and are linked together by stories that kind of explain how I got to that song, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:37:53 So it's a good time. It is a full-on party. And I'm just having the best time, you know, and bringing it spread in the joy of Cabaret. Well, I definitely think that the vibe in the shows that I've gone to is just so fun. You know, it's just, it's like everyone's so excited to be out and it's just like a really fun time. So not only you having fun watching the show, but you're kind of having fun with the people
Starting point is 00:38:18 surrounding you and the environment. So I'm bringing my girlfriends and I'm celebrating my birthday yesterday with my birthday, but I like to milk it out for two to three weeks. Happy birthday. You're pulling a Ramona, huh? Totally. Oh, Ramona and I. Speaking of Ramona, where were you? It's like, where were you, you know, when JFK got shot for all these people? Like, where were you when you heard that Ramona did the IG story revealing the deets of Teresa's wedding and the invitation?
Starting point is 00:38:49 Oh my, I think I was in Canada, it's like the truth, I was, I've been on a tour. So I was not surprised because Ramona did not realize because of her ability at social media did not realize that by doing a video that people could freeze it and actually blow up all the details of her, of Teresa's wedding.
Starting point is 00:39:11 So I think she did it as a total accident, obviously. Yes, definitely. And I felt like, at first I felt bad for her and then I felt bad for Teresa because she's had to move a lot of things around because of that faux pas. And you know, and you know, it's typical Ramona. It's so typical Ramona. So when that happened, of course, like, you know, I see it, people are, you know, posting it and joking about it, whatever. And so I hear from, you know, I think Ali wrote me like, did you see this, Jill Zerrin's, Ali,
Starting point is 00:39:46 oh look what I'm wearing, I'm wearing scary island. Oh my, she's a chillin' island shirt. And so I called, and look what I'm wearing, wait. Giovanni, oh that's the Giovanni, little cute jacket. I love it. Whoops, my computer. Yeah, I got my little Giovanni bomber on.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Yeah, it's really cute. So anyway, I, I called Jill as Ramona and I blamed it all on Jill. I just, I was like, you know what, Jill, I don't know how this story got out. Okay, obviously we've had our ups and downs and I just, I get this all long thing. And she goes, I'm gonna share this with Teresa. And I'm like, I know like, it is all long fake. And she goes, I'm gonna share this with Teresa. And I'm like, I know like when it's all said and done, hopefully she didn't get disinvited. Obviously it was like a mistake. And, you know, but then there was rumors
Starting point is 00:40:36 that you were gonna be a bridesmaid with Kenya. You know, that is the funniest thing in the world. In fact, I just got off the phone with Teresa because she invited me to the wedding and I wanted to talk to her about the details. And I told her, I said, people think that I'm one of your bridesmaids. I said, I don't know how that happened,
Starting point is 00:40:57 but am I your bridesmaid? And I don't know it. And she laughed and I said, oh my God, how upset would Melissa Gorgoby? If I was to be of Ridesmaid, I said, I don't know how that story came out, but it's totally not true. But you are going.
Starting point is 00:41:16 I'm planning on going, yes. Yes, that's very nice. It's because you guys, I feel like you know so many housewives throughout the years doing shows together, all this stuff. And then if so many of the, you know, you're so generous inviting people to your shows as well. But, um, did you love when you heard about ultimate girls trips since you were on the first one in the Bahamas? Were you super excited about it? Were you nervous about who you might know? Did you know who were going to be on with when they asked you or did you accept and
Starting point is 00:41:45 just like throw caution to the win and you know it's not scary Island. I think at first I accepted if I remember correctly and you know listen they called and they were like do you want it was the Turks and K-Cos and they're like do you want to go on this trip with some of the various housewives from other franchises and go for a week vacation and get paid I'm like um yes housewives from other franchises and go for a week vacation and get paid. I'm like, yes, that sounds great to me. And then I found out who was coming. And, you know, I didn't know Keny at all. And everybody was like, oh, you got to be careful. She's shady and throw shade blah, blah, blah. And I ended up getting along with her probably the best. I got along with everybody to tell you the truth. I mean Kyle surprised me. I thought Kyle
Starting point is 00:42:25 might be a little stuck up, but she's actually really down to earth. They couldn't have been nicer and was a lot of fun. I mean, we laughed a lot. And, you know, Ramona ended up being the wild card for me. Yeah. Yeah. Well, what I, what I enjoyed about it is that you guys would have those moments that felt very much like when you go on a real girls trip that isn't being filled that you guys would have those moments that felt very much like when you go on a real girls trip that isn't being filled. And you'd have those moments of just like having breakfast and being like, God, what was that like when that happened on your show like to each other? And then having the perspective of that, it wasn't your, you know, it wasn't your cast
Starting point is 00:43:02 and it wasn't your season, but you watched it and then being a housewife, you could participate in the point of view and the conversation. I thought that was like really cool. And like when they do more of them, they should make sure that they really, you know, make sure that the girls do that kind of a thing because that was the most interesting. Not even like that there was a little bit of conflict. Who cares about that? I liked those breakfast moments of you guys like talking. Yeah, they call it breaking the fourth wall. We broke the fourth wall and we talked about what it is to be like on our different franchises. And I thought that was really good. It's things that people never get to hear that they want to know. And so it was great to be able to share our experiences
Starting point is 00:43:47 because, you know, listen, we're all, you know, housewives. And, you know, we all go through our, you know, our things on the show and people don't necessarily get, you know, those details that you get to hear. So I think it was a very smart thing. And that trip to me felt very old housewives. It felt OG housewives.
Starting point is 00:44:09 There was drama, but the right amount. It wasn't crazy. It was very, I think, like you said, it was very interesting to see that side of our lives in terms of what it's like to actually be filming on the housewives. And no one gave you shit for just taking a swim on the beach. That's right.
Starting point is 00:44:31 I mean, when you're in Miami and they were just like so awful and you're like, my god, I just want to take a swim on the beach. I know, I know. And then I'm there in my lounge chair like relaxing while they're like, why isn't she getting a struggle prize? I mean, what's the matter with her? She went to see her cabaret poster, how dare she? Like, I'm playing the Jackie Gleason theater in Miami, which is a big deal to me. And I was like, anybody. And I'm like, also, you're there a couple weeks before it happens. That's such a great post, you know, to take a photo of you and be like, see you in a couple weeks, like, who, no person wouldn't do that. If I had that opportunity, I would be doing it too, like it was so.
Starting point is 00:45:12 But you know, like when that was that whole, like, not everything's a cabaret. Life is not a cabaret. Yeah. And it's like, well, that is your career and you're still doing it, you know? And it's like, it's weird because, you, and you're still doing it. And it's like, it's weird because the women always talk about supporting, let's support each other. But then if someone is actually really doing something great, then there's always that girl that's really not a supportive.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Otherwise, why would you shit on it? Exactly. Well, and it's funny, because I talk about, actually, I do talk about that moment in my cover ratio. And I do talk about all the really horrible things that have happened to me. And I sing a song, it's really funny. You're going to love it.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Oh, good. Okay, so let's, so now did you see the latest drama with Derinda and what she said about Vicki? Because there are seasons coming up on the 23rd actually. Or do I first? Yes, yes. I heard something's going back and forth about Durinda and Vicki. Remind me exactly what it was. I can't remember that.
Starting point is 00:46:21 So basically, Vicki's saying like she misheard it, but basically, Dorenda got wind that Vicki said something, oh, you know, Bluestone Manor is kind of old and dark. It's not really my vibe. I'm paraphrasing something to that effect. Yeah, I remember that. And then, you know, she just went off because you know, Bluestone Manor is, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:41 so fabulous and was built in 1922 and she has, and what would a woman who dances on tables in Puerto Vallarta or wherever know about taste or class? And then I just watched a clip of it and she's like, well clearly, she's jealous of me and a lot of people are jealous of me when you're doing as well as I am. And I'm like, oh God, what Durenda said that?
Starting point is 00:47:04 Yes, and I'm like, I, God, what do you render said that? Yes. And I'm like, I don't really think that's the case. I mean, I think this is stepping from they did not get along. Right. And we're going to get to see that. And I think it would be fun and juicy. But, um, yeah, I think it's going to be a much
Starting point is 00:47:18 different vibe than the Turks and K. I mean, I love to render it, but Blue Storm Manor is not that house in the Turks and K. Cuts. Right. And love Durandina, but Blue Stoeman or is not that House of Turks and K.C. Right. And of course, it's going to be a different thing that if everybody just went to a remote location, which where no one owns it. I mean, I think it will be a very different vibe.
Starting point is 00:47:36 It'll be super juicy. The stakes in certain places will be higher just because of that. So I actually think it's kind of brilliant that they will be so different. But, I mean, not to say, not to say Dorenda's house is in fabulous, but in that it was a lot more work for her.
Starting point is 00:47:56 I mean, for Dorenda to have all the crew, all the cast in her house, I mean, that's gonna be nerve-wracking. So, you know, it hats off to Dorenda for having everyone in our home because that takes a lot of work. Yeah. And you were the one that really made a point to remind us that there was a fish room and that you were constantly being, you're either we're in the bowels of Ramona's house or the fish room. I know, right? And I think I took it pretty well. Yes. How do you feel about Ramona being a realtor now? Listen, listen, Ramona loves real estate. She loves
Starting point is 00:48:36 home and decoration and stuff like that. So I hope that she drives in it, you know, I think it's a good, it's a good, it's a good, second, you know, chance in life for her to do something different. Why not? So you're not worried that she's going to be stolen by the two little tiny open-hiver twins of selling sunset. She could wear those outfits. She could rock those tiny shorts. She could wear those outfits. She could rock those tiny shorts. And she will move to LA and heartbeat. Now what is this about the spin-off of you in Sonya? Well, I mean, I really can't talk about that.
Starting point is 00:49:19 It's, you know, nothing is confirmed. So I have really no comment on it, but it does sound fabulous. So, let's see what happens. Yeah, I mean, from, well, I guess you can't say, but I mean, I think it would be fun. I mean, you guys are fun together. And but one of the, one, some of the comments was like, well, if this is supposed to be the simple life, you know, Luanne didn't, wasn't born with a silver spoon in her house, in her mouth, like Paris Hilton. Right. And I think, yeah, you know, Luand wasn't born with a silver spoon in her house in her mouth,
Starting point is 00:49:46 like Paris, Hilton. And I think, yeah, you're right, you can cook, you're a nurse, aren't you, one of seven. So I'm like, it can't be that you're like, you know, I don't think it would be that is what I'm saying. The way they go to page six, I'm like, I don't think it'll be that because you're not going to be like fumbling around like, no, not at all, not at all. So there you go, that's where rumors start, you see? It's page six, don't forget.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Right, okay, well good. So tell me what, if you were, if you're gonna do another, oh, first let me ask, do you, can you share anything about the talk of having real housewives of New York, like classic and real housewives of New York, newbies? Like can you share anything of or what your thoughts were when you heard those rumors? Well, I, you know, I, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:39 I was surprised because I, I, I found out literally like everybody else five minutes before. So I was surprised, I really didn't see that coming. And at first I was disappointed and then I thought, you know what, I would really like to film with the OGs because I feel comfortable with those girls. And it's always hard to bring somebody new in and they don't really fit.
Starting point is 00:51:02 It's like, you know, the square peg in the round hole doesn't fit. And so I feel like, you know, the square peg in the round hole doesn't fit. And so I feel like, you know, what, let them try a new cast. And let's bring back the old cast. And, you know, I'm good with that. I'm, you know, I'm excited about it. I, you know, I don't know what's happening
Starting point is 00:51:17 in terms of, you know, if I'm even being cast. But, you know, I think we're gonna have news fairly soon. So, that's exciting. And that season was a struggle because also what was going on in the world. It was just like everybody was talking with their friends about social injustice and politics and everything. So then you guys would get together and it would come up as well.
Starting point is 00:51:43 But when you were in it and living it would come up as well. But did you, when you were in it and living it, did you go, did you have the concerns of like, wow, this really isn't the usual housewife's fun, this feels like a struggle or did you not realize it to like after you started watching it and seeing like the audience reaction? Well, listen, you know, I felt it was a struggle from the get go. We filmed during Black Lives Matters, we filmed during election, we filmed during a pandemic. So we were limited in terms of where we could go,
Starting point is 00:52:15 we were limited in having any people around. So it didn't feel like the party of the housewives that it usually does. And so I knew it was going to be more difficult and it was filming. And you never know until you actually are seeing the show because we don't edit it and all of that stuff. So I was actually was very proud of ourselves for getting through the pandemic and filming. And I feel like we got to a good place at the end of the season, you know, with
Starting point is 00:52:48 Ramonis pajama party and our, um, and our topless party. Um, so, you know, I, I felt like we were in a good place and, you know, um, and, you know, I'm hoping the next season is going to be even better. I speak here at the topless moment. I thought it was kind of not necessarily hypocritical because people change and times change. But I remember when Ramona walked off the reunion because she was like, I can't even, I'm just so, you know, I can't even have a conversation about the fact that Alex McCord did some nude photos or something.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Right, right, topless, yeah. And then here she is like just dance it around and dance. And he had to be pasties. Yeah. Yeah. Well, listen, I think only stupid people don't change their mind. And I think it shows some growth on Ramona's part. I mean, why the hell not, right? She looks great.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Why not? Who cares? She looks great's part. I mean, why the hell not, right? She looks great. Who cares? She looks great for Angel. I agree. Now, you guys didn't have a reunion. And we heard different reasons why. But how did you feel about that?
Starting point is 00:53:57 Well, I feel like, like I said, by the end of the season, I feel like we all got, we're in a good place. I feel like that with timing issues of the show, and not getting the reunion done in time, it was also a scheduling conflict issue with the network. And so it just never happened. And I can't say that I was mad at it because I was in the South of France,
Starting point is 00:54:21 and I just stayed longer. So, yeah, I was okay with it. So you didn't have a reunion dress waiting in the South of France and I just stayed longer. So yeah, I was okay with it. So you didn't have a reunion dress waiting in the wings that now you could just use for your show. No, you didn't have a plan. Now we didn't even get that far, you know? Yeah. So it was no big deal.
Starting point is 00:54:37 You know, listen, you know, the reunions are always difficult in any case. So I feel like, you know, we've gotten to a good place. So I really didn't feel like we needed to rehash it all. Do you have a favorite, like reunion look or a reunion look that you regretted that you're like? I think, um, probably, well, let's see, my favorite is, you know, probably, you know, I've more and some really gorgeous Giovanni dresses in the Rean and probably I had this strapless black number one year that was amazing. So I've had a couple of favorite looks in my worst look. I don't know. I would say it was probably in the very
Starting point is 00:55:16 beginning of the Rean. Yeah, I really know. And they always say to you like, okay, you guys, the choice you can wear either black or red, send us three choices because I always hear so many different things about how they come up with that scheme. Right. Well, basically they come up with a color scheme because you know, they have all these different franchises now. And so we all have to look different, right? So basically is a color scheme and then you kind of pick your favorite look and then send that in. And you know, the early you get it in the better so that you get first choice.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Right. Or have you ever, or I'm sure there's been a chance like if everyone has to wear yellow or something like it, or whatever, I think it was a little yellow. Yeah. How many yellow fabulous gowns are out there? You know, there's a chance that you might pick one that your co-star also has. And it's like, well, it's never happened to me. So I've been lucky that way.
Starting point is 00:56:11 We have different tastes on my friend's. That's good. Now, what is going on with the sobriety? Are you still totally sober or are you partaking? Yeah, no, I'm totally sober and I take it day by day. I listen, it's a journey and it's progress, not perfection, I say. Every day, people struggle with sobriety and I'm no different. And so I take it day by day, I'm so lucky I have my option
Starting point is 00:56:47 of my foesay, which I will be bringing to my California shows for everybody to try. Yes, I heard it's delicious. It is delicious. So I'm super excited to have people taste it out in LA and I'm actually having a party in the Hemptons on July 2nd to celebrate it with Purist magazine. So I'm really looking forward to that.
Starting point is 00:57:07 And I made something during the pandemic with my daughter. My daughter is also sober of Victoria. And we couldn't find something that we liked and elevated in a beautiful bottle. You're at the mercy of a cocktail artist. And it's usually sweet and filled with sugar. I wanted to have something that was a great option. Whether you don't drink for a day or for a week or for the rest of your life, it is a great option. People drink a glass of
Starting point is 00:57:41 rosé and then they'll have a glass of fosé or people put vodka in it. So, you know, it is, it's a great, great option for me. I love it, it's low calorie and it is filled with fabulous ingredients that are healthy for you. So, there's a lot of great
Starting point is 00:57:58 qualities that go into it. I worked really hard on it and came up with something that I really love and people are loving it. So So that's fabulous. Okay, I love that too. So let me just ask you how are you getting a chance to keep
Starting point is 00:58:11 up with the other housewife shows? Have you seen Dubai? I have glimpsed and watched a little bit of Dubai. Excuse me, I've seen a little bit of Dubai. Carolyn Stansbury, I know seen a little bit of Dubai. Carolyn Stansbury, I know is like a friend of Derindas from England at a time. So I've heard a lot about her.
Starting point is 00:58:33 And she looks gorgeous and has that cute young boyfriend, right? And, and then, and then I don't know who the there's like the one right in the center with Caroline, she looks like she might be Indian or. Oh, the model Chanel. Yeah. And she's like very bold in her opinions and they don't get along. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Have you ever been to Dubai? Oh, you guys went, did you guys go as a cast to Dubai? No, no, we didn't go to Dubai as a cast, but I've been to Dubai before. They're not for long. I don't know it well, but it looks pretty glamorous. Yeah, I mean, it's as a viewer, it's kind of, it's like you're excited for a new season, but it's almost like, oh my God, I have to learn, you know, six new people.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Because normally, if you go back to, you know, Beverly Hills, oh, there's one new person that I can like, and then everybody else, I know they're backstory. So honestly, as like a viewer, it feels like a little bit like more of an effort and homework, you know, but I think, you know, it'll be ahead. People are, I mean, I'm going to continue to watch it. It's just taking time to like get into the characters, get to learn into it. Yeah. You have to learn about the characters get interested in their storylines, you know, discover who they are, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:50 I think I think like you said, you have to do a little bit more homework because it's a new franchise. Yeah. But it looks like it's cool and it looks like they've got a lot of money to play with those girls. Yeah, I mean, that's really,
Starting point is 01:00:02 I mean, it's interesting. It's kind of interesting. I've never been there. I don't know that I mean, that's really, I mean, it's interesting. It's kind of interesting. I've never been there. I don't know that out. I mean, I would probably only go if it was like, you know, if we're filming a TV show or they hired me to do something like that's not on my list to just like go with my family. Right. So yeah, so we'll see.
Starting point is 01:00:20 But I wanted to also, so what's going on with the love life? Are you? Well, Liz Hayden, you know, I'm dating. Do I have anybody special in my life? Not right now. I've been so busy with the tour that I'm focusing on that right now. And then this summer, you know, watch out. I'm single and ready to mingle.
Starting point is 01:00:42 And where are you going to be this summer, mostly in the Hamptons? Are you traveling? I know I'll be Hamptons. I'm single and ready to mingle. I'm wearing to be this summer mostly in the Hamptons. Are you traveling? You know, I'll be Hamptons. I'll be traveling. So, you know, I feel like timing is everything in life and I'm hopeless or mad. So I feel like three times the charm. So, you know, look at your research.
Starting point is 01:00:57 You found Louis, so there's hope. I mean, I think it's like you definitely though have to, I think it's hard though too, as you have to, I think it's hard, though, too, as you know. Like, you got to find someone that's down to be in the limelight. Right. And, you know, in his case, I think he's comfortable in front of the camera. And I think he loves what she does. But then there's this risk that it could, you know, affect your personal life and your
Starting point is 01:01:22 business as well. That's right. It's like a double-edged sword, you know? It is a double-edged sword. I think it's very difficult for men. But, you know, my experience is that, you know, listen, Jacques was great on the show, you know. He was very supportive and he always, you know, came out looking great because he was comfortable
Starting point is 01:01:41 with who he was. And I think if you got skeletons in your closet, this is definitely not the show you want to be on. And what's going on with Harry Dubin? Is he dating Ramona again? I saw some blind that they were out smooching again. Oh my gosh, well, I wouldn't doubt it because they move in the same kind of social circles.
Starting point is 01:02:04 So probably by the end of the night, they get a little bit more friendly. I love it. A little kissy kissy kissy kissy by the 12 left. And so we're going to see you in LA. What other dates do you have that you can share some people can see you before you take a break? Well, you know what, I'm taking a break right after my LA date. Oh, you are. Okay. Great. Catch me in LA. And because I've just been on tour, you know, I played, let's see, like 11 shows, I did New York before that. I did an East Coast tour and then Canada. So LA is where I'm landing and super excited to finish out my tour in Los Angeles with you.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Awesome, okay. I will be there on the 23rd. Awesome. And so there are still tickets available? There's still tickets, I think. I think there's still some tickets available on the 23rd and but the 24th, 25th and 26th there's some tickets and, but 23rd and but the 24th, 25th and 26th are some tickets and
Starting point is 01:03:06 and you know, but they're growing fast. So I'm excited to to get there and perform and see you and see all my friends in LA. Awesome. Well, thank you so much. That's why they'll be coming. Oh, the Beverly Hills girls are coming. Oh, yes. The Beverly Hills girls are coming. You look at these surprise guests for sure. You're gonna have an insight. And Beverly Hills is good. coming, you look at these surprise guests for sure. You're gonna have a good time. And Beverly Hills is good. Yeah. I mean, I always love Beverly Hills in New York. And I mean, I love them all, but there's just certain ones because it's my town. And I just feel like they always just bring it. And there's like, like, they have the storylines like you guys do where you really can go deep in the discussion.
Starting point is 01:03:42 So it's not just like, oh, this person, you know, said this mean thing or was late to a party, it's like, Oh, I feel like that. I feel like that. What I've seen them do buy, it seems very superficial like that. But maybe I'm wrong. I haven't watched it yet. Well, it is exactly that. I think sometimes when people get into it and they're starting, they, it's like, you know, they've been watching it for 10 years. And so anybody that says, oh, I have it, they're watching it, they kinda know, well, I guess I should be bringing this
Starting point is 01:04:12 or we gotta come off in a bang. So that's why I'm like, I wasn't really that in love with it, but I'm like, okay, let's give it some breather because the trailer looks good. But yeah, when you have people that you've watched for a long time, it's like they don't have to do some weird activity. Like they can sit around with a bloody Mary. Yeah, you've got 10 minutes of like really good TV.
Starting point is 01:04:37 And so that's why I love it. Well, I'm excited to see all the Beverly Hills girls too. So thank you to everybody where they can get their tickets if they're in LA. Well, if you're in LA, at countislewand.com, and I'll be at the L-Ray Theater for four nights, I'm excited. All right.
Starting point is 01:04:53 I'm feeling Giovanni, money can't buy a class. And you know, life is a cabaret, my friends. It really is. All right, thanks so much, Louanne. This was great. Thanks, Heather. Great to see you, honey. Take care. Bye.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Thanks, thank you. Hello and welcome to JuicyScrib. I have a great guest. I'm going to talk a lot about fashion, what we all need in our lives. Thanks to my girlfriend, Jen Princefe, also the author of her new book, A Common Thread. And what is it?
Starting point is 01:05:24 A fashion for the soul book. Great stories, A Common Thread. And what is it? A fashion for the soul book, great stories, great tips, everything. Welcome, Jen. Thank you. I'm so excited to be here. This is my first in-person since COVID interview. So it's nice to just be face-to-face. Yes. Absolutely. And you brought a lot of great ideas. I really enjoy our friendship. I love that you've been married forever. You have two strapping boys that work with your husband and you are the sole girl, stylist, girly girl, stylist to stars, regular people and you always look great. And so I'm so glad you put all your tips, all your ideas in this book. It's really great. Thank you. Thank you. I'm really, really excited
Starting point is 01:06:04 about the book and it just launched last Tuesday. So I made the bestseller list already, which is really awesome. I'm really happy to have you here. Right underneath Anna Winter, so I was like, oh my God, my face right there. It's amazing. That's awesome.
Starting point is 01:06:16 But yeah, I'm very excited about the book. I think it's gonna change lives, so. Yeah, I mean, what I really like is like, I always struggle. I love fashion and everything. I always struggle with what to get rid of in my closet, what I need now that I'm a woman of a certain age. I still like to show my legs.
Starting point is 01:06:35 I still, but my body's changed a little. Like, I definitely am not the size I was, you know, five years ago. And I don't want to wear spanks. Yeah. I do not have a good time in spanks. When I was on TV all the time, every A-line super tight dress,
Starting point is 01:06:51 what I was, it would be that spanks, and I could not wait to take it off now. I'm like, what kind of look great in, still feel cute, still a great time, not have it clinging onto a squirt of fat that I'm not into. So I love that you brought these items. So here's your book. It looks so cute here. Thank you. And we'll tell everybody where they can get it at the end and all the fun stuff. But okay, let's get right into. I love that you
Starting point is 01:07:16 style these items. You have a beautiful like this kind of this color that I'm wearing right now, this coral color. Like describe what is going on in this little. Yeah, so what I did is, this is how I work with my clients, is I kind of put everything on a mood board for them with different options and different price points, but I just brought in the current trend, which is a lot of bright colors,
Starting point is 01:07:36 but this also, I don't know if you can see it, but it has a little cutout on the side and cutouts are really, really big. So for people that are very young and can handle the cutouts that are all over the place, that's great. But for us, we have to be very selective on where we want the cutout to be.
Starting point is 01:07:49 So this particular dress, it's ALC, it's beautiful. And the cutout is on the side and it's an area that is just, you can rock it. You can totally rock it. So the other thing I put in here is platforms are coming back huge, big. I'm working on platforms. I'm working on platforms. Yeah, big, freaking platforms. I mean I'm tall but the reason I like a platform and a platform and a wedge is just
Starting point is 01:08:12 There's so much more comfortable. Yeah, they're comfortable. And then I put a rock-studded shoe just for a little edge I love that fan bag and then just a couple options and I always throw in pennies because I'm from Southern California. Yes. Yes, so cute. Thank you. Now, this is like a little more of a casual, you know, this is an off the shoulder. And I love a look of an off the shoulder. But again, I kind of struggle with wearing an off the shoulder all day because it's like falling, it's falling, and then like you almost almost have to have a little bag like you have.
Starting point is 01:08:46 You cannot have a strap bag because that little, so, and then you gotta get the right type of bra. So how do you deal with all those things? Okay, so, well, the reason I chose this is because we're going into summer. So this is, when I choose from my clients in the summer, I really try to choose fabrics that are light and this is cotty very very light
Starting point is 01:09:08 off the shoulder I think is such a beautiful trend because it shows your declate so no matter how old you get until you're like probably you know in your late 70s it's harder to do but I see women in their 70s and 80s still rocking it yeah and one of these great too is it then covers like the cover is that I call it the you know vaginal armpit on the squirts of fat around the bride. Like you're right. It's like, I was just thinking about that the other day. I'm like, I don't know why I don't have more things like that because it is still good and it is still flattering. Yeah, it's great.
Starting point is 01:09:36 I love off the shoulder and it's great for travel. A good, you know, strapless bra. I tend to wear just the silicone pasties because I don't really need the lift. Yeah. And they're amazing. And then everyone needs a good summer hat. And then I love this wedge. It's so cool. I'm seeing a lot of this heel now. It's just very tight. Yeah. And Fendi started this sort of loose sight. No, it's not a weird metal. It's a metal. It's actually pretty comfortable. So it's like open. It looks like a can. It's an open foot, but it can. And so this is, I think Fendi started the trend. This is called G comfortable. So it's like open, it looks like a can. It's an open foot, but it can. And so this is, I think Fendi started the trend.
Starting point is 01:10:06 This is called Gaya. So it's a lower price line. And then everyone needs hoops in their wardrobe. So, just threw that all together. Yeah. And the dress is only 115. Is that what that price is? No, that's the earring.
Starting point is 01:10:18 That's the earring. The dress, I don't know, I don't know if the price is on there. It's very reasonably priced. It is about 130. OK, this is Zara suit. So we're gonna be seeing a lot of colored suits. I love lime is huge with the blazer and a white. Not like a white, like a trouser pant.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Right, and again, like she's like what, 12? So she can pull off wearing just a bra under the blazer. But we're not. So I put it with a body suit. And then that heel again, I'm into these great heels and I love them on a chromatic look. That's called Gaya. Everyone needs a solid gold chain and they're in their wardrobe and then I put two
Starting point is 01:10:53 persis unease that I would rock it with. So yeah, that's a Zara try to. This is really cute. This is really cute. It's so cute. I feel like I got to go get that because when I perform a nappa, like that's what I should be wearing. It's a little like oversized moves.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Good night, good night. And then, yeah, and then, it's like let's go shopping in Zara. Yes, and also, yeah, and the way the pants works, what I kinda like about this is, you still are seeing like a shape and a thin thigh. Yes. But it's taking away from like, you know,
Starting point is 01:11:23 that the skinny jean or what the skinny look is out. And then what I also like about this length is, you could wear a platform or a wedge and be, oh, have a more comfortable shoe. You could, or if you really want to get edgy, you could shorten it and wear it with a sneaker. That's true, which is like an edgy or look, but it might not be for you, but that's another option.
Starting point is 01:11:42 I, my ankles are very small. The circumference of them. So I've never been a Capri pant girl. I hate tealine. Should you do strappy shoes? Or do you know what I'm saying? I'll do a strappy one, because you have a skin ink. I used to be weird about it.
Starting point is 01:11:58 I thought it emphasized it, but then I, then I don't know when did I thought it looked kind of cute. It is cute. But I don't like like crop pants on me. But I like to look on it. I thought it looked kinda cute. It is cute, but I don't like crop pants on me. But I like to look on our own. But I like to look on our own. But I like to look on our own. But I like to look on our own.
Starting point is 01:12:10 I like to look on our own. But I like to look on our own. But I like to look on our own. But I like to look on our own. But I like to look on our own. But I like to look on our own. But I like to look on our own. But I like to look on our own.
Starting point is 01:12:18 But I like to look on our own. But I like to look on our own. But I like to look on our own. But I like to look on our own. But I like to look on our own. But I like to look on our own. But I like to look on our own. But I like to look on our own. But I like to look on our own. But I like to look on our own. But I like to look on our own. again like your 12. Yeah, it doesn't look great. I don't think it's a my it's not my favorite trend. Yeah, what do we have next? Okay. Oh, these are basic essentials. Let's get into the basic essentials and
Starting point is 01:12:30 everyone needs in their wardrobe. Everyone needs this and and I could have you know given you a lot of stuff. In fact, we'll talk about my QR code and all this is on my website and plus more. But yeah, so everyone needs a good buttery leather black jacket. Totally agree This particular one is who is this? Slide oh, what do you mean? No, no, no, I put it on the side. Oh, sorry. Sorry. Here we go. Okay. Nope. Can't see it. Oh I can't remember who it is, but No, it's if you slide down it's not there. I have a screen shot. She's screened. Grab a screen shot.
Starting point is 01:13:07 Oh, OK. OK. So this is a great leather jacket. And the price points like $4.99. So for a good, buttery leather, it's really reasonably priced. Everyone needs a jean jacket. You can do a regular jean one.
Starting point is 01:13:20 I like this one with a little puff sleeve, because I feel like it gives you a little bit more fashion that's on there. A good cami and cami in New York is where I tend to buy mine because they have a little lace in there. Just easy to wear t-shirts. Redone is one of my favorite lines because it's a little cropped and I like them a little bit shorter but on my website I have all different styles.
Starting point is 01:13:42 A good hat. I like that B-neck t-shirt. Yeah. And I do feel like, I know sometimes this people are like, who would pay, you know, $85 for a t-shirt. And, but I, you know, I have recently, and I'm like, God, a really great t-shirt. I know. Less, really long, and you feel like it fits you good,
Starting point is 01:14:03 or it's in a great color color and you wear it a lot more But you can also find something very similar for $20. You can you're just gonna need to replace it more often Yeah, yeah, you definitely can I just I Once I find what I like I tend to stick with that and I like a shorter like a shorter sleeve and yeah a little bit more of a boik you know crew cut for me. Uh-huh. Paradeviators, again there's that necklace, a good clutch and gold works really well, um, a pair of hoop earrings.
Starting point is 01:14:32 And then I put a black tennis shoe and a white tennis shoe. I mean, of course you can go nuts with tennis shoes. You can get golden goose, which is like 600 bucks or you can get stance myth. It's been around forever and accomplish a similar look. I, I, I just, my one friend kept going, you gotta get golden goose if you're gonna wear ten or if she's a sage of it. And I just felt like, it's just like seeing everywhere and it's so trendy and I don't really like the dirty look of it.
Starting point is 01:14:56 I don't. I remember. At first got it and I came home and my husband was like, what are those? And then he found out how much they work as the credit card came in and he's like, are you kidding? They look like they're used. Such a huge trend. I like them, but you know, it's like fashion
Starting point is 01:15:12 sometimes has to grow on you. And even me, like sometimes I see it, I'm like, I'm never gonna wear that. And then after a while, I'm like, maybe I'm gonna wear that. And then I'll incorporate it. Yeah, it does. And then there's certain things I just will not wear. But then these are vejas.
Starting point is 01:15:25 These black ones are super cute. A closed toe pump is a black and nude or your basics, but I like this one because it's got clear and it's just got some edge to it. A slip dress, a nude shoe, and a bootleg. And then of course a blazer. These are just, you have to have these things in your wardrobe and I could make 10 outfits out of this.
Starting point is 01:15:43 Right. Yeah. Yeah, so these are the basic things. make 10 outfits out of this. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So these are the basic things. I basically have all of this. Good. I don't think I don't have a good pair of cool rip jean shorts. I kind of was wondering if I'm too old for that. We don't have to do rip jeans. I mean just shorts. The shorts. The jeans. No, no, you're great legs. You can't even flonumoy you can. For sure. I know, but like I feel like I could look a little like
Starting point is 01:16:06 how do you make that work and not look like a crazy little lady that like you don't want to let into the store. Okay, so I think when we slide, we're going to do the next one. So beach beach, you are into the beach with a bathing suit, or you can warm with a blazer over it a blazer a heel looks really cute Yeah, along blazer. So here's your jean short. Okay. I put this on here because we're going into summer bucket hats are huge right now So I put that I don't know about my face of the bucket hat
Starting point is 01:16:36 But I like to look on other people. It's cute. Yeah, it's cute Oh, so you have to grow so and then cut out on the bathing suits are still really big in one pieces And then this cover up I really like because it buttons all the way down have to grow. So and then cut out on the bathing suits are still really big in one pieces. And then this cover up I really like because it buttons all the way down so it can dub as a duster as well. And then I did. And then I did a colored lens on a sunglasses because I like that to tie in sort of the whole look. Sometimes I'll throw in a colored lens of whatever color I have going on. And then I did a studded shoe. So, yeah, very cute. I totally wear that to the beach.
Starting point is 01:17:07 Yeah, I know. And I love that one piece suits are in. They're so big. Yes. What's the suit that I, that they gave me? Oh my God, it's called, I think it's called TR3. And they're one piece suit. And they tie in the back so they suck in your waist.
Starting point is 01:17:27 T are three. Okay, I have to check that out. They're extremely flattering and they have really high cut. I like that. Or they, or you can get a little lower but they still have that suck in. You know, like if you, people have tried these like one pea suits that are almost like spank suits
Starting point is 01:17:43 or whatever, but they sometimes then almost feel better, because they cut you in the like, so this cut is really nice. Okay, I'll check that out. I will feature it. Yeah, I'll check that out. Okay. Are we done?
Starting point is 01:17:57 Oh no, so okay, summer, yeah, summer's right here. So another like basic essential is a maxi. And I get off the beautiful. This is beautiful. It's a great dress for travel. With a big slit in the leg. I like it. Yeah, that would look great on you.
Starting point is 01:18:09 You know what I hate about slits legs? Is it slits? Every dress puts the slit with the left leg leading. Do you know that I've never noticed that? I know that I always, I have a very specific way that I pose and I am right leg leaning. And I always thought if I was ever gonna get like a dress made, I would obviously want like, I always thought if I ever like was going to the Oscars or whatever,
Starting point is 01:18:33 some big thing. I definitely want like off the shoulder where some covers the bad part of like behind the arm and then nipped it at the waist and go down have the slit but on the right leg. Just know that's really funny. I've never thought about that. See this is her left leg. I thought about that. Yeah. And so then like that, you know, to tell you have a good side of what I always say, my right is my good side. So my right leg is always out. And every, every, um, dress I have, then, then when I pose for it, trying to get that leg out. Leg up, leg out.
Starting point is 01:19:09 I'm not happy with the photo. That's really funny. I wanna start paying attention to your photos now. So fashion designers will listen to this. If you can just try it. Just try it, see if I'm telling you they'll still sell. Nobody else will care about me. I need a right-legged slit.
Starting point is 01:19:29 Right, like a slit. That's true. No, but this is a really cute dress. Cute look. And then again, there's that clear shoe. So if you don't know what color to wear on the bottom because you have a lot going on, clear as a very big trend and all these cool heels. But it's like clear with a strap.
Starting point is 01:19:42 It's not like a hook or clear shoe. No, no, no. So cute. So cute. And then a chain necklace and there's your hoop earrings again's like clear with a strap. It's not like a hook or clear show. No, no, no. So cute. So cute. And then a chain necklace, and there's your hoop earrings again, a pair of sonnies. So you still have the, you have this chain link necklace.
Starting point is 01:19:52 I wear this everything. And I feel like that, that's been in for like a couple years. And I'm like, oh my god, I still love it and everything. But I'm like, is that going to be gone? No, no, get it. No, get it. But why, but where was it three years ago? I feel like six years ago, everyone had the bar.
Starting point is 01:20:15 The bar, sometimes there was a name, sometimes there was nothing. And it was the bar this way, and then a shame. Yeah, and then the bar would sit between your... Yeah. What are these going? I don't think this trend is going anywhere soon. So I would invest now and just, you can get a knock off. You don't have to get a real gold one.
Starting point is 01:20:31 There is a real gold one. People are gonna die. There is a real gold one, a very good quality, kind of thick like you have like a little more $500 Costco. Oh, and I've been eyeing it. I've been eyeing it. I've been eyeing it. I've been eyeing it.
Starting point is 01:20:47 I've been eyeing it. I've been eyeing it. But I was just kind of like, is this gonna go out? You would be wearing this today. I would be wearing it if I had. No, no, no, I think the trend is gonna stay for a while. So, and you know what, once it goes away, you just, I don't get rid of jewelry.
Starting point is 01:20:58 That's one thing I don't get rid of. Jewelry, belts, like great outerwear pieces, and stuff like that. But I would be at Costco today before that sucker's gone. Yeah, probably go get it. Well, I have to head down that way to the good, to the, like my favorite. Well, on my Costco's really nice in Wilhelm Hills,
Starting point is 01:21:15 but the West like one since, I'm saying have different stuff. I have to go that way to the DMV. So fun story. It was fun. It was fun story. Fun. Okay, so let's get back to the book here.
Starting point is 01:21:25 Yeah. So tell me a little bit, tell us a little bit about the book and the QR code and the chapters and the stories within the fashion. Okay, so yeah, the book is called A Common Thread. And I chose that name because there's two threads that have been running through my life since this far back as I can remember and that faith and fashion.
Starting point is 01:21:45 And it's really a weaving of these stories that have happened throughout my life. What is your faith? Well, I came from an orthodox Jewish family. My grandfather was the chief orthodox rabbi of Los Angeles for 53 years. Oh, wow. So like black hat, like really, really orthodox. But my father who raised me was more conservatives, but I spent my weekends at my grandmother's house.
Starting point is 01:22:07 So, but it was really kind of dogmatic. Right. So, I weaved in and out of faith. And my book is a weaving of in and out of faith. And it's also how the universe sort of spoke to me. And the stories are true stories. They're my life stories. And they're,
Starting point is 01:22:28 there are things that taught me the basic virtues of life about forgiveness and resilience and humility and courage and they're all told in a way that sort of ties in faith or fashion in one way or another and you know I came from I came from abuse like I came from alcohol I came from a lot of people see me like you I don't know what you thought of me when you first met me, but I had several people come up to me after reading this book and they're like, you know what, I'm sorry. Like, I really judged a book by its cover. And there's a story in my book called Judge Book By Its Cover. And the story about me judging somebody else
Starting point is 01:22:58 and the lesson I learned. But, you know, I live a beautiful life. Because you are very pretty and put together. Thank you. Your husband is also very attractive. He's pretty downhouncing. You guys are pretty, you guys are wealthy. You're outgoing, your sons are cute.
Starting point is 01:23:16 Like, you've let a great life you're put together and you're sexy for your age, too. Like, you're, so yeah, I think people probably just thought you're this like, like you won the lottery and the, you know, too. Like you're, so yeah, I think people probably just thought you're this like, like you won the lottery and the, you know, trophy wife girl. Yeah, I think a lot of people think that. And I had somebody say to me and actually quoted her in the book that once she got to know a bit,
Starting point is 01:23:35 like a tidbit of my story. She was like, Jen, you weren't born in a Faber-Shag. Yeah. I was not. Like I came from, I came from trauma, like major trauma. And I myself, as a teenager, I really struggled like I came from I came from trauma like major trauma and I myself as a teenager I really struggled I struggled with depression I always kicked out of school four times for fighting I went to jail several times. I mean I had a
Starting point is 01:23:54 Narly background and this is a story I wrote this book I took a leap of faith It's really scared to put yourself out there be this frickin vulnerable And I put myself out there because I believe that my stories will help others rise from the ashes and also realize that trauma is not a final destination. Like we can really overcome hard things. And so that's why I took the leap of faith to put it out there. And then in the process, because I love fashion, and I've always loved fashion since I was a little girl, I've loved fashion, and I've been doing photosho I was a little girl. I've loved fashion.
Starting point is 01:24:25 And I've been doing photoshoots for years, even before I went into my career. But it wasn't until I really got into my career, Heather, that I really fell in love with fashion. And the reason I did is not because of the aesthetics of fashion, I think that clothes and wardrobe extend way beyond covering our bodies and making ourselves look beautiful.
Starting point is 01:24:44 There's a psychological impact that clothes have on our psyche. And I've seen that happen more so with all of my clients, but then with my nonprofit even more. That's when I really fell in love with fashion on profit. So 20% of the proceeds goes towards my nonprofit. It's called the Phoenix Effect. I started it nine years ago and I curate photo shoots for people that suffer from life debilitating diseases than trauma. And did you not know that? No, I did not know that.
Starting point is 01:25:12 Yeah, it's on my website that the transformations are freaking remarkable. But I named it the Phoenix Effect because the metaphorical Phoenix, you know, fives into the fire. And it re-emerges a stronger, you know, more beautiful bird. And so when people go through trauma and cancer, they lose parts of their identity. They're losing their hair.
Starting point is 01:25:31 They're losing, like, they're losing it all. So it's hard for them to re-emerge back into like material. And so I know the benefits of it. So I meet with these families, and we curate beautiful photoshoots based on, you know, what they want, what do they need at the time and they literally come alive on camera. And then they're provided a coffee table, a memorialized coffee table book to keep. And now we give away clothes and sorts of wishes along the way.
Starting point is 01:25:57 But so that's really why I'm here. I feel like, you know, God gave me this gift for a reason. And that's to give back to other people. It's not to just make everybody look pretty. Yeah. Well, it's so true. And it's like, and what is really fun about fashion is that there'd be those certain outfits,
Starting point is 01:26:12 especially when I was like single. Like there was a halter black romper from Express Oh. That, oh my god. Every time I wore that outfit, you got attention. I got attention. I had the best night ever. I know.
Starting point is 01:26:29 And then there's certain outfits that you buy, and you try a couple times. And I've ever bought something that you think is great, and you realize you've worn it three times, and nobody told you that they liked it. And you're like, just kidding. No, but you know, maybe not. Yes.
Starting point is 01:26:44 Honestly, it's kind of rare for me too, but I kind of go, that's interesting. Like, not that many people compliment me on this. Like, I thought it was like kind of great, you know, and then you're like, maybe it's not, or like that, there are certain items that you buy and you're like, oh, I spent a long on it, but I still haven't worn it yet, or I don't have the right undergarments for it. What is your advice to that? Do you just go bite the bullet, give it away or sell it on one of these resale things.
Starting point is 01:27:11 That's where I have a hard time. Okay, here's my answer. First of all, yes, I purchased a lot of fashion faux-past. But I've also purchased things that make me feel really good. And if I don't get compliments on them, it makes me feel good. I feel good in it. But what we wear shapes are experience, right? I mean, that's exactly what you were saying
Starting point is 01:27:31 with your express romper. It does. It shapes our, it can shape our parameters. So sometimes we go out and we feel like a million bucks, right? We walk in our head held high. We're like, oh, I look good. And then other times, we just don't feel good in what we're wearing. Give it away.
Starting point is 01:27:44 If you don't feel good in what we're wearing. Give it away. If you don't feel good in what you're wearing, give it to somebody who will enjoy because there's so many people in need. And I like to visualize people walking around wearing my stuff and being happy makes me feel really good. So I go through my wardrobe all the time and I give away stuff that if I have a worn in a year, there's a reason why. But if it makes me feel really good and that's the whole purpose of wardrobe.
Starting point is 01:28:08 Somebody can hire me and I can make you look fashionable, no problem. But if I'm in somebody's wardrobe and they're like, oh, I got this from my brother gave it to me before I passed away, or I got this from my husband. This really means a lot to me. Should I wear it? Is it still in fashion? I'm like, it is 100% in fashion if it makes you feel good. And we're going to incorporate it and make it so that it does look good with, you know, whatever you're wearing. So my, my answer is if it makes you feel good,
Starting point is 01:28:33 then you just wear it. It doesn't make you feel good, get rid of it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, well tell everybody where they can find your website, all this stuff, and the cool cure code. Yeah, this is part of the book. Yeah, so the best part about the book, is that I wrote this book, and then I have always wanted to provide a platform for people who can't afford the luxury of a personal sauce,
Starting point is 01:28:54 because it is expensive and it's a luxury. And I want to help more people. So I woke up in the middle of the night, and I was like, and this was during COVID, when we had to like scan all the codes. And I'm like, oh my God, I have this idea. What if I do fashion tutorials, and I put QR codes in my book,
Starting point is 01:29:08 and then people can scan them, and I can teach them how to become their own personal stylist. So I started doing that. And I started filming these tutorials about a year ago. And so I've built this thing called the Wardrobe Wisdom Club. And when you scan the codes, you get your basic essential wardrobe
Starting point is 01:29:26 for free. There's like, I think four videos. They're long and they tell you exactly what you need in your wardrobe with free downloads, etc. And then you join the wardrobe wisdom club. It's $15 a month, which is so reasonable with links on where to buy things, free downloads. And I cover everything from basic essentials, body types, also with downloads so that you can do's and don'ts for your body type. So when you go shopping, if you can find it, experience salesperson, you can say, hey, I'm looking for a shift dress. I'm looking for, you know, I give them verbiage that they know how to, yeah, what to find.
Starting point is 01:29:59 Body types, color, tailoring, vintage, I mean, you name it, it's all in there. And then, and then by monthly, you'll get a newsletter with more looks, just trends for the season, things I've run into that I love, etc. So the QR code is in the book and it's scannable. And there's four in the book total because there's a story in there about my son, which is incredible. It's chapter three. And it's a documentary that he made that is grabbed tissues. It's really freaking good. So yeah, so there's the book. You can get it on Amazon.
Starting point is 01:30:29 You can get it Barnes Noble online. I did an audible with my own voice that apparently everyone really likes. I had no idea. So I did an audible. And then my website is jpstyles.com. So you can go to my website. You can buy it there. And on Instagram, you can print some pstyles. Yeah, and your Instagram is great. You get a lot of fashion tips just by following her on Instagram and get to see her cute life too. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:30:55 Thank you, girl. Thanks for having me. Thanks, Laura.

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