Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - I Fell in Love with my Psychiatrist, Sister Wives, Todd Chrisley with Sarah Fraser

Episode Date: August 12, 2025

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Heather McDonald's Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have a first time guest, but I know you're familiar with her. She's also pop culture queen and podcaster and everything else. Sarah Frazier, welcome to the first time on Juicy Scoop. Heather, I'm beyond honored. I told you this. I told you before we start.

I know so much about you. I could honestly spend an hour talking about you. This is like a tremendous honor. It's my favorite subject. No, just kidding. No, I really appreciate your enthusiasm and all of that. It means a lot to me. So I'm happy to have you here.

Well, look, it's a dream come true, for real. I respect you so much. I mean, I want to do like a business podcast with you. You have had such an incredible career. podcast you are truly one of the biggest female podcasters in the world like I want to know so much about everything you've done money wise rating that you're huge honestly I feel like for the young and they won't know who this is but remember the old comedian rodney dangerfield yeah how he constantly just go I get no respect that's exactly how I feel in this business in this space

in just the overlooking of so many things but that I'm also like who care because I have such great... Hopefully you've gotten so rich off it that you... I have such a great audience. I have such great loyal people. I have so much fun doing it that, you know, when these things come up and then someone be like, why isn't this you?

I'm like, I really didn't need you to point that out, but thank you. Like, I don't care. It's all good. But when someone does kind of recognize that I bet in the space for 10 years doing as a solo host. And when you do it,

you know, people that have done it for more than a couple years do realize how it is a challenge. So I do appreciate you saying all that. Well, I want to give you your flowers for real because I don't think people realize your show is one of, you know, I love podcasting. I listen. My show is like nine years old. But the way you lay your show out is so methodically done. It's so easy to understand. You are so fucking funny. And I don't think people realize when you started there, 10 years ago, 10 years plus, there was a new. way to make money. Like you took a risk. I mean, I wasn't making money at it. I was just doing it so that if I had stand up in the next few weeks, maybe some people would know. Because I've said

this a few times, so I don't know if you know, but it was really Tom Segora that made me do a podcast because I was in a place, I forgot the name of the club now in Dallas. But it's like a medium-sized club. But it was great. And I was in the little room. There was no green room. I could spell the fried food. And that was all fine. And the guy was like giving me my check. And there was a little, there was a small poster of Tom Segora that he had come there. And I was like, oh, that's my friend Christina Pisinski's husband. I go, apparently it's like a huge podcast, which is amazing because he's not even on TV. Like, because this was 11 years, 10 to 11 years ago. And he goes, oh yeah, he can come here on a Tuesday night and make $10,000 because his fans are so right. rabid just to see anything with him. And that's the next, the next day I said it's time for a podcast. And I was just thinking, I wasn't even thinking about, I was just thinking to go do live shows. I wasn't even thinking, because I didn't know anybody that did it when I was a guest or

anything that was making any kind of real money at the time. And so just like when I started stand up or acting or whatever, money was never the reason, which is so different now because money's the only reason people go into podcasting that have any kind of name or their agent is like, here, sit on your bed with your cat and make a million dollars a year. And then those people don't last because it is just like any other art firm. Like, you've got to be doing it because you actually get satisfaction and joy out of it. And that's why people do, you know, teeter off after a couple of years because they do get burnt out and they do get over it and they don't like hearing the criticism or reading the criticism, which is something.

thing that we've always had. And the fact that you have stayed chart topping for a, like, people don't realize how hard that is to be in Apple and Spotify's top 200 podcasts in the world. People do not understand how many hundreds of thousands and millions of downloads and listen. Like that is, I'm in like the top 50 for TV and film that little category. And I always look at you and I'm like, you're the goal. And you, like, you're the one that brought me years ago, which will, then we'll bring up

Norm Patis, but years ago, if podcast one started, you were on, my entertainment lawyer in DC was very good friends with him. And I was like, Heather's on that network. I have to get on. I get on. One of the promises, of course, you know, is they're like, we'll reach out to Heather. We'll see if she'll do your podcast. This was like year one, right? Like a thousand people listened at the time. I'm like, okay, whatever you got to do, they're like, yeah, we'll talk to Adam. The minute I signed, I never heard, we couldn't get a hold of anybody. They never sold one ad. I was on for a year, like they never, and then I think after the year contract, they sent us an email and they were like, due to poor sales, we're going to have to let you go.

We never had one sale. And what happened to Heather? Like, did you? Oh, my God. All of this I did not know. But then the Norm Pattis thing leaked and I thought, well, she left anyway and you know what, for good reason. And but you, I just, people don't realize how big you are and how much work you've put in and

truly like how you've made it an income. And to this day, I think people don't realize, like, how much money is in it. And truly, I always say this now, no matter what you think of the outcome of the presidential election, you know, President Trump going on Theo Vaughn, on Joe Rogan, it's changed the game. Like, you are the legitimate entertainment. There is no more entertainment. It is juicy scoop, you know? It's our show.

So you... I know people are like, God, did she have this girl come on just to, like, have smoke up her ass? And as much as I love it, it's, let's get to the juicy topics because I feel like people are going to be, but I do truly appreciate it. We're going to have a lot of fun today. Not as much as fun as you're going to have November 14th when you see me at the MGM Live during BravaCon weekend on Friday night. And so get your tickets, bake your plans. That's all good. Love.

Do you think you'll be going to BravoCon for anything? I'm debating. You're deciding. It might be a last minute, yes. Might be a last minute. Okay. So let me tell you. you about, you know, people know I love TikTok. I think it's a great, um, a great way to find other talented

people and enjoy people. And so people wrote me and said, Heather, you have got to go over to TikTok and see what's going on with this girl. Kendra. Kendra, I fell in love with my psychiatrist. Several parts, much like the Risa Tisa, who the fuck did I marry girl. And so I was like, sure. And I saw it was only 18 parts. So I'm like, well, that's better than 50 of Risa Tisa. So I start to listen to it. And this girl's attractive and she's just talking to the camera. She's not doing makeup.

She's not eating a tuna fish sandwich. So to me, that's more appealing. Okay, I don't understand why we have to see everyone, you know, contour their face or fucking eat with her, talk with her mouth. But whatever, I get it. You've got to do something else to make them listen. Okay, so she basically tells this story of how she has 80s. And so she went to a psychiatrist to get ADHD medicine.

And they fell in love. That's how it starts. By the fourth or fifth episode is when the audience realizes that, I mean, when it started, okay, I'm like ready. I'm like, oh, my God, she's sitting across from him. They start fucking, like, it's going to be hot. It's going to be manipulative. It's going to be weird. It's going to be some sick shit.

There's going to be, you know, I'm like. ready. No. All of it was via Zoom. And, you know, which by the way, you don't find out until what? Like episode 16 or something you find? It's quite far in, I thought. She ends up disclosing, oh, by the way,

he was only seeing Zoom patients. You're like, all this detail and connection? And also for people that are not familiar with seeing a psychiatrist for medication, you only see them once a month just so they can check in with you and make sure that the medication's still working

and it's very short sessions. It's not like traditional, you know, therapy, like couples therapy or one-on-one or whatever. So she sees him and she says he's good looking. She says he, you know, is Pakistani, I think. Yeah. But, you know, America, but lives here and everything. And then she says, and I was wearing these tortoise shell

glasses and he says, ooh, I like tortoise shell glasses too. Well, when this stuff happens, the audience, if you're interested, you can see what other content creators are thinking. So you're like, finally, can I talk to someone else about what a freak this girl is? This other girl, and forgive me for not giving her credit, but she said when they, when they, he was found, they found him and he's a good looking guy and he's probably like 35 or younger. In one of the videos, she drops his. first name which is very unique right so it's like okay this is so easy it's not like it's

paul it's like effron or some like something that's like so distinct which by the way she's never taken that down but she's done just getting back to tortoises go go so this girl discovered he wears tortoise shell glasses he always wore them so when she had them on he was like oh hey i like tortoise shell glasses too because i'm always wearing them they're my frames but she would be like and then he said i like those tortoise shell glasses this man was grooming me he and this is and this is where it gets crazy so then she goes on to say she's also seeing a therapist so she's got the ADHD doctor and then a therapy therapist who she says is like this 72 year old very established therapist and she feels like they're like working in coots

but it doesn't sound like they are but in her head she's like oh yeah and then the therapist asked me about my relationship with my boyfriend and what that and what our intimacy was like and I'm like well I have gone to therapy and if you're married or something they'd be like how's everything going like you guys good you're still sexually active

like I mean that's not like a weird thing to ask so she kept up if you've ever like have you ever seen somebody or you know somebody who's that girl that thinks everybody wants to fuck her and everybody loves and she's misinterpreting everything.

But then what's dangerous about this is we're putting this professional out where she's calling him a groomer and everything. And it was all on Zoom. All on Zoom. And then she finds out, she goes, and then I find out through his office that he does see people in person. So this is where the sick shit happens. He knows that I'm in love with him.

And we had mad chemistry via Zoom. And so in order to keep me With these crumbs He has set these ridiculous boundaries Of not seeing me in person So then I address him And I'm like, why didn't you tell me You saw patients in person?

So, well, now he's like, cut Because you're a fucking free And because you already told him That you like had feelings And he was like, well then it's probably better That we never be in person And she goes, and then The final, then she sees him

person and she goes and then he looks at me as he's as I'm walking down the hall and he goes okay see you next month that was the first time he said see you next month what does that mean it means I have to see you once a month because you're on ADHD medicine bitch like it was just oh my god but of course she interprets it as you know he's keeping me going as a patient to fulfill his fantasy of dating a patient yes that's the all that. You know, he is psychologically, he gets off on knowing that I am attracted to him and he should have ended this professional relationship, but he didn't. He kept me going with these bound, you know, no boundaries and all these things. And then, you know, when she goes in to

meet him, she goes to hug him and he like, won't hug her back. And then he gives me this like, very weird. So she's like, so here's, you know, she was criticizing his boundaries of being a professional therapist. And right. And then she'll say, and the reason he didn't hug me back was because he wanted me to come back again and attempt again because he knew you're like this man is you know so this couple crazy other crazy things with it is what does she do for a living oh she's a life coach I don't mean to criticize life coaches but if you're going to hire a life coach it's not Kendra yeah it's not Kendra and she's a life coach for ADHD people that people who have it

that she also teaches yoga I mean I am like this girl I just can't and so it just the whole thing is so fascinating but so of course there's very funny people on this app and there was then I came on the

parodies of it oh it's so good and my favorite one was the girl that did it just like her of how she was like hello my name is whatever her name is Jennifer and this is how I fell in love with my AT&T carrier

and then she does this whole thing about how the AT&T got called her and then he would say how's everything going of course he asked me how's everything's going because he wants to keep me like it was her whole bit was so funny I mean another guy did one about falling in love with his

like mail carrier like all the type of things of like yeah they have to show up this is what the job is and so then people like I hope this guy sues her whatever now because it's coming to the end of like whatever five or six days this has been going on now I ran across another con now the content creators are like they're getting jealous that she has 100,000 followers okay and that she's still doing uh now she she turned off comments

a long time in but now she's getting smart because you have to subscribe to her content if you want to leave a comment I didn't even know you could do that so now she's 100,000 people, and I am like this is what I hope. Okay, yeah, what do you think? All right, because this is so, obviously she had to turn off comments. She got such bad backlash.

I mean, could this be the ultimate hoax? I mean, maybe not because this guy truly exists, but like, did she like know what she was doing all along? Because it was such a ridiculous story, you're like, how can this even be true? And now that she's

basking in the fame of it. and the followers and the financial gain of it I'm like I hope to I mean I hope he's in on it too and it didn't ruin his life I don't think it will ruin his life he has not one person thinks he did anything wrong so I'm like I don't know but for the for the

general thought it's this chick is spiraling she is the most conceited person if we ever allowed to use that word anymore it's a word from my era are you're conceited you think highly of yourself da-da she oh and then my best part is when she then goes, I feel like I don't need

the 74 year old lady therapist anymore. So she goes in and they end their time and then she goes and then look at this letter, this email I get from her because the two of them want content for their own life. And she goes, and the therapist wants to keep me

around because the therapist even asked me advice on how to handle her she knew I was a life coach and so did he, like I was a peer. And I'm like, there's no way a therapist that has gone to years and years of actual school and you got a certificate online with Tori Spelling's brother on how to be a life coach that they are like can you help me with my clients could I could I run a case could I break hippo laws and run a case by you like you're

no after I've been doing this for 74 years or whatever she is so then she says the woman writes and she shares the email by cutting out the names um I'm really happy about your journey and moving forward. I do think it would be wise or I encourage us to have one more session very professionally written just so we can tie it up in a nice bow, realize where you came from, where you're going, and I

can put that in the final case and she's just like why would you do that? You're obviously talking to the psychiatrist to try to get me back in one more time. Like it, the way she was misinterpreting the things that were so black and white,

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No, it was in the video that I found so comical was when she talked about her family and she's like, and I let my family know that I had told my therapist that we were in love and he has not fired me. And my family was the psychiatrist, yeah, has not let me go. And my family said, okay, Kendra. And I just thought, you know what I mean? That's the whole response. they said, okay, Kendra. Like I thought, yeah, they know.

I think I know what okay means. I think I know what it means you're grooming me to go back to the psychiatrist so that I get more wrapped up. I want to make it very clear. Not one physical thing besides the awkward hug has ever happened between the two of them. Oh, the other best party, she goes. And then he was so manipulative, he was able to get inside of my dreams. and I had a dream that we made

loud and hooked up and the next time I met with him I said I had a dream that we hooked up and right away he kind of his eyes got big

and he went further back and showed how uncomfortable he was because he knows that we're meant to be together and he knows that not only was it a full moon but I made clear that I was also ovulating

yes so therefore that this was more special like when and then when she goes into she's like and he's a Pisces so I knew that whatever astronomy gets into it oh my god astrology astronomy astrology yes go on yeah once the astrology when she did the astrology video I knew he was a Pisces so he was getting mixed messages I'm like you are delusional it is so and now of course like you said it starts out but now we've gone on to 42 parts and now you have to subscribe and I mean, I've stopped

but this person says it's from I don't know who posted this but they want to get Mandy more as her. Love it. She'd be a perfect match if you see the face.

She's very cute, very attractive. But also in kind of a natural girl next door, smart, Brunette way, like, but aesthetically very cute. Well, and the story starts out at first. You're like, okay, wow, like you confess this to him and he doesn't really, you know, he doesn't let you go as a client or whatever. But then, you know, the more she gets into it, you know, these little innu windows are like.

I was like, this is one of those times when with whatever the job is, you're like, who would ever be a doctor anymore? Who would ever want to be a police officer anymore? Who would ever want to be a therapist anymore? when this is the shit that's out there like you literally cannot do anything right and so I'm guessing

if he thought about letting her go maybe he didn't realize it was that serious or maybe he thought well it's once a month on Zoom and if I let her go that can be an issue like firing somebody

who's on mid-medication I don't know what was going through what he was doing or maybe this because he is kind of cute maybe this has happened to him before oh and then she's like, I am so glad I didn't convert to Muslim for him. What?

No one's asking you. Nobody's asking you. Literally, no one. Oh, my God. It is entertaining and maddening at points. Yeah. And funny as shit. And I hope and pray that the two of them are in on this together.

And we all were scammed. And it's a hoax like the boy in the balloon. that flew away. Did you just say they just, I did not see that. But I'm waiting for my son to go home to watch it. Oh, no, I haven't watched it, but I remember that story. It's crazy when you get to an age when like every day, every week there's a documentary on a story that you lived through. I'm like, how do I know every story?

But anyway, that story, which was, that was wild. I remember we were at Chelsea lately. There is a documentary, I think it's called, it's under a series called Train Rec, which is the one where we covered about the poop, the poop cruise. I was on Storming Area 51. And I actually stormed Area 51, so I was in the documentary. So that's one of the episodes, too. Yes, yeah. What was that like?

Very bizarre. Very disorganized, incredibly bizarre. And we didn't see any aliens. I felt like it really was an internet moment where a lot of people would gather. And there were so, as you remember, there was just so much viral, like, lead-up to it. So then when you got there, did you have, like, camping gear? Or you was just supposed to be one night? Or what did you do?

Myself? A mini-Burney band? What was it? It was like a mini- Burning man. Yes, but much more disorganized. I stayed with Andrea Lopez comedy, who you've had on your show, the comedian. We're dear friends.

She used to co-host my podcast. We went out there. We stayed probably about an hour away at a little tiny town like these cabins and then we would drive in every day because we knew, like we were hearing leading up to it that the little alien, she had like two toilets.

There was nothing out there. So it was... They really thought there was a real alien living there? Yes, they really thought we were going to storm area 51. And people did. Wait, so they really think the real aliens are living there

or their alien bodies are buried there? Both. Both. They think that the government is an area 51 is keeping alien UFOs and alien bodies. And so we all went to the gate that morning. But of course, I mean, there were so much law enforcement. They were so prepared.

I do think like a couple people ended up getting past the gate. They were immediately arrested. But we saw no aliens. All the people in Rachel Nevada, which was population 50, were like, we've lived here, our whole lives. We haven't seen one green alien.

And basically it was just a part in the desert. So what's the history of people? Who started the rumor of Ariel 51 then? The guy that's in the documentary was literally just like a basement video game player. And just that, which was basically the people that did the Qadon thing. Those are just two like

weird dudes. Yeah. It is just that. He was in his basement. He was listening to an episode of Rogan with a guy who was a former like military ops guy who was like, like, oh, you should, telling Joe, like, you should see the stuff that they're doing at Area 51. Like, they absolutely have UFOs there, all this stuff.

So this guy in his basement listens to that, starts a Facebook event group and goes, they can't stop us all. We're storming Area 51 in September and who's with me. And then it just got like a million follows, like a million people RSVPed. And then when you got the invite to go to the Capitol, you're like, I'm going to pass. You're like, I already did that. Then they're done that. Have fun.

Oh my God. Yeah, so I was just featured on it. So I love the series, yes. So anyway, for people that I'm going to watch it, but it was crazy because I remember we were like watching it in the news. It was like right up there with the girl from 25 years ago that fell down the well. And she was okay, Jessica. But this was basically this guy said they had some big, like, fun, like balloon that looked

like a UFO thing. And they were playing around with it or they were building something and their little four-year-old child got in it and then it flew away. And we really stopped flying and it was like, how are they going to get this? How are they going to do it safely?

There's a child in it. And then I do want to watch it because anyway, I can't remember how it got revealed. I want to say the kid did interviews after. Was that when it fell apart? I know. I'm trying to say that this was like, well, it was that he was never in it.

And they did this whole thing because the goal was this guy wanted to have a family reality. show, a TV show. And this was how he thought he was going to get like news. Now I didn't want to watch it because I honestly don't remember what happened where they are. I'm guessing whoever he was married to at the time

they're divorced. That's going to be my one prediction. Oh, all right. Yeah, I remember that. There's no way a couple stays together after some stunt like this. Okay. Also, very excited about this. TMZ is reporting that Aubrey Plaza will play Heidi Fleiss,

the infamous madam from the late 90s, which is, if you guys have followed me, you know one of my favorite genres of anything is high-class hookers. Hooker lights, high-class hookers, streetwalkers from Eve Plum in Teenage Dawn Portrait of a Teenage Hooker or whatever it is. I like anything that, I don't know, I just find a fascinating. And during the time, that is how I got the,

One of the titles of my book, which is you'll never blue ball in this town again, because there was a book, a famous book saying, you'll never eat lunch in this town again, which was about the industry and how you could get fucked over and blackballed in Hollywood. Then from there, all these girls that were a little before Heidi Fleiss and somewhere after, someone took their stories and wrote a book in the late 90s called You'll Never Make Love in This Town Again. Still one of my favorite books. Oh, okay, I can read that. And then there was another book, You'll Never Nanny in this town again. Okay. And so then I created You'll Never Blue Ball in this town again. Just me just dry hopping my way through Hollywood Hills

into the depths of the bowels of the valley. I went everywhere. And so anyway, I was always fascinated by her. I was like, because I was like, oh my God, I feel like we were, you know, at certain same places. I know. Did you ever meet her? Did you ever? Because I was obsessed with Heidi.

So much adjacent, but did I ever meet her in person? I'm going to say no. I had not. But I always thought I was interesting and she's kind of like masculine. Like she wasn't very attractive. And then she had this awful boyfriend that kind of got her into it. But then she came from a very prestigious family in Los Felis. Her dad was a highly recognized and famous doctor. Yes. Obstetrician, I think, like was like Madonna's baby doctor. I don't even know, but he was like, and, and then she, yeah, then she, like, dropped out of college and got a real estate license,

but then, like, you know, it's either that, real estate license or prostitute. Or Matt, or Hollywood Madam. It was like one of them. It's literally, no, she stole, she started working for that the Alex, this old, like, Jabba the Hut kind of a woman that just, like, laid in her butt and, like, had an old old ex. And there was a documentary on her, and then Heidi was one of her girls, and she was like, this girl isn't that attractive.

but whatever, she can still work for me. And then she got sick and Heidi stole all her contacts and then figured out the formula of the kind of girl that she wanted, which was what we kind of see to now, which is the, you know, what I like to call them, hooker lights, you know, yacht girls, whatever, girlfriend experience, that they don't have to be like the most perfect body or the most perfect. or the most perfect face. It's got to be like, but girl next door truly like cute, thin, blonde, athletic, like go on the date

wearing tennis shoes, don't like be in high class hooker shoes and all this kind of stuff. And I cannot wait for this movie. And then I guess but she said she won't be watching. She doesn't want to relive her past. Why not? Here's the buber about this

when you're a famous person like her. Because after she got out of prison, because she did go to prison, of course, they never get you on the trafficking, just like P. Diddy. They got her on her tax evasion thing. So she does like four years. She comes out. She gets a facelift. She fills her lips, whatever. But then she goes out and lives like near the bunny ranch. And like it's just like this lonely woman and they did docks on her with like birds chirping everywhere. She'd like all these birds. Yeah, like 45 birds. They'd just be these parrots like all over her crapping everywhere. in this Vegas little hot? You're like, what happened? And you're just about how dry and hot it

is. And then, and then she was like, I'm going to do a dude ranch. And I remember covering this story, too, back in the day on Chelsea lately. And I was like, I just don't think this is going to work because there's going to be a dude ranch for women, not, but maybe she would allow guys to come to, but it was mostly

it's supposed to be women that just want to get fucked. But like, if a woman wants to hire a man, it's going to be like the again, acclaimed show and showtime jiggler. who, by the way, one of those jiglows was one of the guys, the player in the P. Diddy

world. He was one of the hired people. Oh, yes, that's right. That's right. But you're going to want, like, I just want to get, like, if you're like a woman who has a couple bucks and she wants to get, have something, she's going to want more of an experience than just,

oh, my girlfriends and I from PTA are going to go to the dude ranch and all get fucked in some gross bet. No, we're going to want to go out to dinner have him like act like a boyfriend do us hard and then go and be discreet like that's what you want as a woman you're not like trying to get a deal yeah at a night out level where you're going to pay someone to bone you yeah you because you don't have to pay you the reason you'd be paying is for a really good looking guy and discreetness because otherwise you could go anywhere and get somebody

to come over so anyway it failed it never it never happened she was so ahead of her time Don't you really, don't you think, now, why isn't she running people's only fans? Like, did she realize now? Like, all her dreams. Because she's pretty old and all that is so technically driven. She doesn't know how to do any, like, website. I mean, you lose four valuable years of, like, not knowing, like, the inception of the iPhone. And then you're like, oh, yes, no, I don't think she would know how to do.

Because her whole thing was, you know, now that's what's so great about only fans is that women are their own pimps. They don't need to be or do anything, whatever. And her whole thing was, okay, I'm meeting, you're going to meet this guy. And that's what made the book so juicy. I never read the book. I just love it because it's like, there's always this like fantasy.

Then there'd be dark parts. But there was also the good part of like, I always thought if I was going to be a hooker, I just want to be the one that's like, you know, just goes to a dinner and talks to them. Yeah. You know, like. Yeah.

Because it would, but then, then even in my 20s, when I'd go on dates just to eat, I'd be like, oh, my God, it's not worth it. Like, you're so annoying. But at the time when I was younger, I was like, oh, to get all dressed up and go to, like, a fancy dinner and, you know, fly like pretty woman. And this is like right, all this came crashing down right after pretty woman came out, which is such an unbelievable movie when you think about that he's just picking up this girl off the street that just had like a dirty dick in her mouth. And he's like, oh, yeah, let's hang out, like, for the next week and a half. and I'll buy your brown polka dot dress. Like, I mean, come on.

Like, it's like, but it was, that's what it is. And so you think like, oh, this could happen. And so it was always like, could you marry the John that like, you know, hires you and then just falls in love with you? No, that's never going to happen. It's never going to happen. I know. In the book, did she ever really name names?

Aside from Charlie Sheen. I mean, we know Charlie Sheen was like, you know, a regular. I can't. I feel like she never really. There was a couple of these like pockmarked actors. that like were around, but it wasn't, I want to say, no, she didn't, just like a Gislaid. She really didn't. And there was always a question because they were getting her on like a tax thing, if she would

have turned over her black book, would they have cut a deal with her? And I don't really know the answer to that when you're dealing with like the federal government. I don't know if that's even like a choice. I'm sure she was paid a lot of money to burn that book. Because I feel like to this day, we've never really gotten. Yeah. You know, like you said, I think there's been a few Hollywood actors that were, like, leaked.

And now it's like calm, clean with it all, because who cares? Probably half of them are dead. Like, oh, it was Jack Nicholson. Shocker. Of course it was. Like, who cares who it is? You know what I mean? Like, at this point.

And the other thing about it is the younger generation, they, there's nothing that can shock them. They don't care who's on only fans, who had a sex tape? They're like, who cares that Pam? and Anderson and Tommy Lee had their tape stole like all right like they don't get why it's like because their whole life is on the internet right right so to them they're like why does anyone care about privacy yeah no I agree come clean come clean maybe the movie will uh have I think she's a great match like look wise and everything and she's a great actress perfect and Heidi was kind of like dry and funny so I think it can be really great I love it hi I'm hather

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Find it different than our Housewives franchise because some of the franchises I've found are harder to watch now. I've given up. We're going to touch on that in a minute Why you may have given up Yeah So I like it I do I mean I'm going to be curious to see

Who's let go You know obviously there's lots of rumors Sheena's going to be joining Season 3 I mean is Lala back There was even like Sanoval There's rumors of Lala and Schwartz And three of them Okay Schwartz

And so I'm I'm curious to see who's going Like is Janet gone Like are they gone I you know I want to say I cannot predict because I don't know because Janet and Jason

and Nia and and Danny that's where the drama and all that is so I don't know why you would get rid of any of those people can they you know they oh like it's so weird when like a housewife goes you know the show's about conflict

conflict and resolve and I'm like that's not what the show was about when it started it was never would you like to join a show about conflict and resolution resolve. It's like, no, it's about your life and your friendships and your relationships and living your life and your aspirations in LA. Like, I don't, so it's like, I don't, I hate that it's gotten in this weird pattern of that. And it's always like we, we fought, can we move past it? It's like, it's kind of exhausting. And I know everybody wanted Jack's gone. But I mean,

Jacks is like the reason. This is everything. It's everything. It's everything. So it's the most, it's the most juicy, fascinating thing I've ever seen on TV of watching. a true narcissistic man who cheated and did drugs, but in his heart sees himself as the best dad in the world and a great guy. And it's like he's sharing it all. We're seeing it. I know. Finally, right?

After years. I feel like I said this, it could be triggering for people that date someone like him. But I think it could also be weirdly like healing to go like, oh, wait. like I get it now or when you find someone like that you like understand it because it's like the case study of Jacks I

yes like I am torn about him not coming back to season three because I'm really like how many women like your listeners I bet there are so many that are divorced from Jacks Taylor types where you can't ever really get rid of them no matter what they're still blaming you for I mean he blames Britney for everything it's just like

how many women I feel like So many women can relate. Don't you want to follow? You know, what happens next? Well, listen, he is going to stay in his son's life. And so I believe that he was probably making a lot of money because he was one of the creators. He put the cast together. He knew Nia and Danny.

He knew Jesse. You know, he knew all those people. And he was trying to get this going for like years, even before he got kicked off the valley. So I think he was making a lot of money as a cast. member and they always want to screw people over and not pay them and they had a legit reason not to once the ring camera of the of the rose bushes were it was evidence is this all me guessing okay and so then this way they got rid of their highest paid person and they come off being moral like we never did it with james now we're doing it here like a respect us yeah and then but just like a

Durinda, I'm on Paj. He's on pause and he could come back at any time and he will. It's Cruz's birthday. It's Ocean's birthday. Everyone's going to come. Okay, let's give Jackson another chance. And they'll all say, yeah, because they're like, we know this will be good for the show. And then he'll just get paid, whatever.

Yeah, like your day rate. Yeah, yeah. Several thousand for the day. And just like a Luann that did that, if he brings something interesting and they keep bringing him back, then there's that chance that he can get his self back on there. But by leaving, he'll never, in my opinion, make the salary that he once did. And I think

that is what Bravo was doing to him. But they did the classic firing where they're like, so we know that you know what's best for you. And he probably in his head thinks he quit, but he didn't quit. I'm going to be so fascinated to see what's next. Obviously, they split their podcast. You know, he says he makes a million dollars a year podcasting.

I'm not sure if I believe that. But, you know, I mean, and then the bar's gone. And now that, you know, I really felt like. I said, if he gets rid of the podcast or the podcast ends it with him, then I will be convinced that he's doing it so that when they go to court, he shows zero income. Yeah. And then maybe he'll inch his way back. But right now he does still have the podcast, but that's probably because there's a

contract. And the way it works is you sell ads per quarter of the year. So we'll see where the. podcast is, I think, come January or something, but I think he launched his own one, like, in spring. So I guess it would be a year, it'd be a year schedule. And I don't know, you know, if people, I don't know how much, I don't know who's listening to it because I don't think guys who are also narcissists are like, you know what I'd like to hear about is more fucked up men like myself because they don't see themselves as fucked up. So who is going to listen to him

cracking the code of that you dated an asshole? Like, I don't. don't know, but we'll see. I know. And what's he going to do? Recap, you know, Valley Season 3. I mean, just like Rachel did. Rachel Raquel, now he can go join her and do sound baths. I actually want to go try one of those just to see, like. That's who I want doing my sound bath. And I'd like you to meet my partner. Her name is Kendra. And she's going to talk about when she went to therapy with her fill in love with her psychiatrist. We've got to get Kendra Raquel. Can you imagine?

Can you imagine? I would not be surprised if they are being contacted to do some kind of. Well, get the Risa Tisa, too. Get the, you know, who did I marry? Yeah, and they can all just come and just talk about their fucked up people in life. So, okay, so, yeah, I mean, I kind of feel like Jasmine might go. Yeah, what do you think? Okay.

But then Jasmine adds a different element in that, you know, she's now engaged, which I think is strategic on her part. Not that she doesn't want to get married, but if you say, and you could have the wedding at, and you know what, and to think that they don't even pay for the wedding, like this, the production, they still have to pay for their wedding. Sure, of course. With all the cameras there. I mean, maybe you get a deal here or there. Maybe I think the venue, because they're filming, they'll cover the venue. But they still have to pay all the food. For the food. I mean, the Jack's, the Jack's, Brittany wedding was so expensive for

them in Kentucky. I'm sure. And so that could be interesting, but I mean, I just feel like we haven't seen a lot of her and her girlfriend, so I don't know that I think that would be an easy cut if they're looking to cut somebody. Or they might just make her,

I don't know if she's a regular, but they might make her like a friend. We got to keep snarky, Zach. Love. Love. And of course, Kristen, you know, we want to keep her. And so, yeah, I don't know. Maybe they'll just keep everybody. put jacks as you know is out and then sheena and brock come in do you think oh yeah definitely because everyone wants to see what that's like once the whole world knows that your man cheated and right are they

doing okay and hopefully they are and or we'll see um so tom sandoval said that he um is ready to quit reality tv all together he and tom sandoval and the extras did america's got talent and Pretty great performance. I feel like you asked, have I seen it? I've only seen it on, you know, clips. But I've always thought, like, you know, I get it. You know, Jesse's girl and the same karaoke songs that he does a lot. But he does sound pretty good.

So if that's a fun time for you. I've seen him live. Where did you go? Here in Hollywood. Oh, my gosh. Maybe on sunset. It wasn't the infamous night that Ariana took his phone and found it. No, no, no, no.

No. they um but i'll be the next talk that you're on just everywhere like it's like the forest gump of like an eye was there i'm always in the background yeah uh no it was somewhere on sunset schwartzie was there james kennedy was there i mean maybe this was when they were when they were filming the final season anyhow to your point they're they're surprisingly good and the band is like nine people deep or something you know i mean it's a little bit

of like a step up from a wedding singer band and you know I mean he plays some songs about you know himself being a loser or cheater and he kind of like he's like I don't know like uh I don't think I feel like he's mom has got it going on and everybody that goes crazy I think um I predict he's in real estate class right now you do 100% oh I feel like wedding singer for sure like I think they're going to try in well do a Vegas But then I think they'll perform for your corporate. Okay, so how old is he now, like 42 or something? By the time he's 47, he will have a real estate license.

He's going to try to do this for a couple more years for fun. And, but he should start taking the ongoing classes. And then he can be on a show with the selling Sunset Girls or something and start screwing some of that. I don't know. But I don't know where you go. Like, it's true. It's a hard thing when 20 years of your life has been spent doing, being yourself and having cameras follow you.

You are entertaining, but it's not, it isn't really a career. You're not, I mean, he can act. So he has done some acting stuff. So I still feel like there's going to be these things. He can't, but he really can, like, carry a tune and everything. So we'll see if they can get enough stuff going on. then maybe he'll stick with that. Okay, Larsa Pippin's face stopped the world in its tracks this weekend.

And she then, it was really puffy, really crazy. We know they just filmed the reunion of Miami this past weekend or a couple days ago. So I was like, well, what is it going to look like on the reunion? And then she took to Instagram with a very heavy filter. However, she looked better. And she's like, this is my feeling. face. You see me on TV. I don't, I feel like that was altered. I did have an allergic reaction to a PCP. What is that? Like some laser or something? And, um, but this is, you know, I, you'll see me

the reunion and I look fine. So, you know, it's just she's one of those people that looks so, so different than when the show started. Yeah. And if you will ever, you know, when she did it like nine years ago, she already had. a nose job and then she got another one that kind of took like her unique like narrow nose to be more of like oh I don't know Kim Kardashian nose and then with the lips

oh the lips and then the filler the excessive filler in the jaw line is what like makes her and you can see the filler like you can actually see it under the cheek bone not the cheekbone but the skin it's just

like I love plastic surgery I'm all for it I cannot wait to have my facelift but it's just like I pray like I don't become addicted I just want to look fresh you won't you won't because but I think with her I think being friends with their Kardashians

and she got like her her ass and I don't even know I don't even care enough but part of me wants to go back to like when she had her original face did she talk like Kim the way she talks and the hair and like

did she was her I mean, I think she's a great addition to the show because of the plastic surgery in the ass and her dating these young basketball players and being married to divorce from Scotty Pippen. Absolutely, she's good on the reality show. She knows how to turn it up. And it must be hard to now be in the cycle

of like filling your face all the time and where do you go from there? I don't know. But it is kind of fascinating. It's fascinating. Speaking of which, I know you're not watching Miami that much, but I've talked about it. And Leah, who is the soon-to-be wife, maybe they're just engaged. I don't know if they got married, but of Captain Sandy, they shared some video of the famous night they're on this yacht, this boat, this three-day trip together where Gertie said she was kicked, not invited to the dinner. And this is the night. This is the night that Gertie was left trying to find a, take. for one and she wasn't even on the list and she got very mad because she wasn't even supposed to go and Julia begged her to go and then was like, well, I'm sorry, but I'm having dinner with Captain Sandy and there's not room for you. So that's where their fight started. But they are all having super fun and I'm like, I've said it before. She invited Gertie, Gertie annoyed her and then she was like, I want to be with my hot lesbian friends and I don't want to deal with Gertie anymore. She's too much. And that's what she did And that's what started

All this like war on the show But who knows Now how do you feel about the controversy She was so Julia was on Watch What Happens Live This past week And Martina her wife Who is 68 years old And famous tennis player

And had tweeted When the tweet first made it to my attention I thought it was from like 20 years ago But it was Oh real recent It was real recent and it was something It was like surrogacy is not It was like she basically was like I'm against surrogacy

Wasn't that it? Like okay this is the thing I feel like most people don't read into this But she retweets an article about From a UK author that is examining women Who Become Surrogates in the UK And basically the article is just saying Like whether it's egg donor IVF

Whether it's surrogacy Nobody publishes the downsides of these things that, you know, of course, you know, if you carry six kids, like, you know, you might have, you know, like no bladder, right? Right, right, yeah. You know, stuff happens. So basically saying that when these women go in, it's a lot of money to become a surrogate or an egg donor, but they're really not warned about all the downside of this thing. So that's where she then tweets and goes, you know, I don't believe in surrogacy. Sometimes you've got to kind of let things go.

It's like the better, the gist of it, right? Okay, you're explaining it well. Yeah. So she's really commenting on this article. Now, every country's different, right? So some of the practices in the United States, I'm currently pregnant with an egg donor, you know, using an egg donor.

Congratulations. Thank you. You look great. Thank you. I have to wear something very flowing to feel comfortable. But, you know, they have standards. Most if you go to an egg bank, the women can only donate, like, a maximum of five times. And even from that, half of the eggs are not going to survive the thaw.

anyway so maybe they're having 10 children max right and can I ask how you um chose your egg yeah I mean you basically go to a portal you we got recommended to um egg donor bank so did you use your husband sperm husband sperm okay egg donor egg and you it's like a real kind of catalog you go through and do you look for someone that was similar to you I actually looked for someone as a child that looked similar to my son. Oh, you already have a child? Yes. I have a little boy four. Oh, okay. Okay, great.

And so that one you had naturally? That's when I had naturally. I gave birth to him at 39 and then basically since 40, I've had three miscarriages, just like tons of genetic issues. And essentially the doctors have said, look, this is just your egg quality. You have to move on. You've already carried a child. So I've always been open to how my family was going to come.

So we did an egg donor. But you scroll like on an iPad through a catalog. And they, you know, it's very detailed. Yeah, I remember back in the day when egg donating was still something. And I remember being in Newport on a weekend and I was looking at these ads for egg donors. And it was like, we're looking for a girl this tall and brown hair and this and an SAT score over this. Yes, you can customize. I did have that SAT score.

And I remember I was like, oh, my God. What if I, what if I was desperate? for money and then I was like oh my god I'll be so jealous of my child gets to live in fucking Newport and I'm like sweating in the valley like I was always like me like that like I always and then when my sister was going through fertility stuff and she was able to give birth and carry her own genetic children but there was a time where it was like what maybe the the pregnancies aren't lasting because of the egg quality they didn't know and then they said um the doctor said well you know you know if you wanted to talk to your sister

me the child then would be 25% your DNA if you got from a sister and I was like oh my gosh you know I wonder we didn't she didn't really ask me I was just wondering like I was just kind of like I wonder if that would if I would do it my dad's like no that's fucking weird and then I was writing white chicks at the time so I asked the guys the wanes oh and they said in a second they'd give their brother their sperm or whatever if that was a thing not a big deal and then and then i i was always like oh my god what if what if i was to do that and and it was before i had my own children and then my sister's child who's technically mine is like the winner like the total winner you know because i come from one of five and it was quite a a array of success yeah you run the

Damn it. Yeah. Okay. And I was like, oh, my God, what if she got, like, my one good egg? And then I'm sitting at, like, my nephew's college graduation or, or, or, you know, medical school graduation. Something really, like, asked, like, he's a super brainiac or whatever. And I'm like, he's not really my nephew. He's my son.

Like, what? And I was always, like, had all these, like, jokes about it. I was like, what if, like, my sister was to, like, and I was like, hey, Shedick, can you, like, pick me up at the airport? She's like, actually, I can't. I'm like, okay. You wouldn't be a mother if it wasn't for me, but whatever, I'll take it over. Like, how do you? So, so, yeah, I was, I remember my sister saying, well, if I was to do it, you know,

they had these women that, you know, like, had these eggs. But then I went back to her and I said, if you want my egg, you know, you know the qualities I have, but you also know the qualities I don't have. Right. I don't like reading directions. I'm the last picked on every athletic team. I am not super organized but I don't have any genetic problems

I'm a pretty good time You're obviously very smart with the high SAT score And you know that's it But like you I was like you could probably do better Like you probably find a better person A better egg if we're looking at like How well they did in like science class or something You do so good though

It's great like the egg donor bank Really kind of gave me inspiration because it's a lot of nurses that work in the OBGYN-YN IVF. So they've seen these women struggle so they do it. And like once you're in the IVF world, you realize it's not as invasive

as you think. Like the IVF process especially when you're young is like two weeks of giving yourself shots. You get all these eggs. It's kind of like twilight they put you under. They harvest the eggs, which sounds like worse than it is. But it's really not that big of a deal. And the egg donor we picked, she already had two kids.

And she worked in nursing. And she's like, I've just seen people struggle, and I know I'm not going to have any more children. So, like, here are my eyes. Now, is there ever a weird thing in that you are our personality and she knows you? No, they never know you. So they never, and you never know their name. They assign them a number. So it's like 0067, right, is your donor.

So you don't know their names. You know, like, very extensive about their mental health, any, like, you know, genetic issues, cancers, down syndrome. any sort of thing, right? They have to disclose all that. They do a very rigorous vetting. And it was great. I mean, the first donor I picked, I really like, because she was like, I'm doing this for the money.

I've done cocaine twice. You know, most of them say they don't do drugs. And you're like, come on. I mean, you drink multiple times a week in your smoking pot. Like, I mean, just say it. So I really liked her because she was like, you know, I smoke pot twice a month.

I've done cocaine twice. I was like, okay, this is like a girl I can appreciate. So she was like my first choice. But then you've got to buy like eight eggs to get. a good one. So I think she only had like four eggs left. So she was kind of out. I'm like, I need her to get. And they were like, well, we can ask her if she wants to do another cycle. I'm like, no, that'll take too long. I'll move on. So moved on to the woman that was a nurse that was

like, I'm doing this for the better good or whatever. They're all doing it for the money. I mean, the money is so good now. You get like at least $15,000 a cycle. Well, it sounds like the money to give the egg is a lot better than if you're going to adjust it about time and everything than the act what an average surrogate gets if you figure you're actually carrying this child it's by the hour it's like barely minimum wage but yeah but then you're doing other things that I get it and some women really like being pregnant they love giving birth they don't have a problem with it all that kind of stuff so anyway so she got herself in a pickle by discussing that being that they also just adopted these these brothers these little brothers who are like three

and like one and a half. So what's interesting is they go out to dinner on the last episode. And the new girl, Stephanie, is like, oh, my God, and congratulations not expanding your family. How old will you be when they graduate from high school? She says that to Martina. Who, by the way, it would be like 88. Yeah, Martina's like, I'm 68. And she's like, oh, and Julia's like, I thought you were 67.

She's like, no, I'm 68. And he's like, oh, you're going to teach them tennis? She's like, no. if they want to play tennis then I'll hire somebody and then if not then maybe eventually I'll oversee it but you know no

and then Julia's like so we're going to Spain and then Martina's like oh I'd love to go to Spain she's like no you have to be on babysitting duty and you just know Martina was like I don't know you're just like

it's very weird I don't know how I don't feel great that they're showing these kids right off the back that were probably in foster care or something. And I wonder, like, whoever their parent is that lost legal custody or chose to give up legal custody, are they having to flick on their TV and possibly see their kids? That could be really hard. And then she goes on to say, Julia, right now we're not talking to either one of my daughters because the daughters are like these 20-somethings because they weren't aware that we were adopt.

and they're just like a little shocked by it or shot or like whatever and so I mean all of that makes the show kind of interesting but it put julia in a weird position with Andy because of course Andy you know as a single father has you know very he and he's always very respectful about women in their bodies and how they you know whatever they're going through he seems like he's more like aware and not just like ha ha ha you get your period you know like he gets it Like he gets it, which is nice. And so, you know, but then that says a lot because it's like, well, then how could a gay man of or have a biological child without the use of donor eggs and a surrogate? So anyway, Julia's like, well, I don't share the sentiment of my wife.

And I don't know. We'll see where they are. But I truly feel like it was more around the article. People really missed that part. I think, you know, look, I feel like you're the same way. So many times these things are true. Like, I was like, what did she say? So then speaking of which this is crazy, this is a mystery of the L.A. mansion filled with

surrogate children. I talked, I think I talked about this on here. Mine have just, I'm on my Patreon. But there is this, this, this, this, um, there was a raid in that this older Asian couple, um, had all these children like as many as 15 under two. And then several older ones. So they were all in her two. And the reason they had 15 kids under two is because they had different surrogates carrying their biological children.

And then they were told, oh, this is, you know, a woman who has one child at home and they want to expand their family. And so they're like, okay, great. And so the kids have been, the reason they even came is one of the children went to the hospital and they felt there was abuse. So then in doing that, then they send over the authorities. And that's when they discovered that there's all these children and some of them were living there and some of them living in other places. And the people were not arrested. They just, all the kids are in foster care.

And it is a concern when you think about it. There was a family also in Russia, some Russian billionaire. I remember I covered the story a while ago that was doing the same thing. He and his wife had like, you know, 12 kids like under six. and they had several going at the same time. Remember when Jojo Seawaw said she wanted to do that? Remember when she was a lesbian? I can't keep up.

She's like, I'm going to have trivelets. I'm going to name them Mandy Candy and Sandy. And they're going to be trivelous because they only have three different surrogates giving birth at the same time. And everyone's like, what the fuck are you talking about? Now she's straight. I love her.

I know. I know. You got better day besides. I want to tell you. I love you. I do think she's cute. though. I do think she has the cutest little face. She's so great

at just hacking the internet, right? Isn't she just the best thing to hate on? I mean, she doesn't care. It's just, your impressions are so good. I don't hate her, though, because she has, like, the best nose. She just is so fucking cute. I love it. Anyway, this story is so strange. And I

really want to get to the bottom of it. Yeah, because I think they're selling those kids. And then you're like, well, how could this happen? This is sick. What fertility clinic is, is a lot of this to happen. They own the fertility clinic. This is very dark. They own the surrogacy center.

So I truly believe that the women that were involved in being, having the embryo of transfer and giving birth, they really had no way of knowing because they were just like, okay, I'll do this. Or they weren't like going, well, now, where is the LLC of this surrogacy? I mean, how are they supposed to know, you know? Something is so dark about this. This couple, whatever is going on with these kids. I mean, and, you know, like how many kids? And the man is like 63 and she's like 49. Yeah.

And you wonder, how long has this so-called clinic been open? And where are these other kids, you know? There is something very, very dark. But there were 15 under two. So weird. Yes. Speaking of weird. So Todd Chrisley.

My favorite. The show is coming back. And, you know, Chrissley knows best. And he goes on Candy's podcast of Real House of Atlanta. And she's like, I just have to ask you, Todd, you know, during all this,

there was this business partner of yours that really was the one that, like, turned on them and spilled the beans, and they still feel like they were innocent and set up and whatever. And now, of course, they're out of prison. He, you know, there was accounts that he said that, that you guys had sex.

And he's like, well, I'll tell you what happened. I was with Julie, and my lawyer called, and he's like, I need you to come into the office. I have something to tell you. And I said, well, I'm in the car. You know, just tell me now. And he's like, well, are you with Julie? And he's like, of course I'm with Julie.

You know, she's the hottest woman alive. Look at the always like that. It's always. And he said, well, I'd rather, I need to tell you alone. And he goes, there is nothing that you can't tell me in front of Julie. Julie knows everything, and then he said, well, this man is saying that you had sex. And then Candice is like, and that it was a one-time thing. It was a one-time thing.

And I said, well, if I'd fucked him once, he would have been back for seconds. He goes on. He's like, and if I want to suck a dick, I'd suck the biggest dick. I'd suck. He just goes like, it adds that. You're like, what is that? Now I feel like it could be a Kendra. I feel like if I fell off my psych.

psychiatrist, like now you know that the more gay shit that you say is what's keeping us intrigued. Yeah, I think so too. You don't care, you're not denying it anymore. Whether he's ever done a gay thing or not, he knows that's the sound bites, that's

the trigger points, that's what everyone wants to talk and joke about, that clearly when he's like, he goes, when I walked out of prison and I saw Julie with her gray hair, I say I wanted to run back to my friends in prison. I was not attracted to you. And she's like, what?

Like, you can tell she's heartbroken. This poor woman just looks like a captive. I mean, just, you know, she just, it's so sad to see Jill. Like, I actually think Julie has remorse. But, like, he's not even on that plane. I mean, you know, he's like, absolutely not. And she's too, like, I just feel like she's too in it too deep now to get away from him. So she just goes along with him sitting there talking about.

But it's just such a weird thing to say. Because I'm like, okay, let's just analyze this for a minute, okay? this is the R-rated part of the show. So he's saying if I, so, meaning he would have been the top and it would have been so great that the guy would have come back because it wouldn't have been the other way around, right? Because otherwise, unless you're like a power bottom,

what is he saying? It just seemed like such a weird. Right. I mean, yeah. We're not denying. We're not saying yes. We're just talking about, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So, yeah. I mean, I mean, it's so like, it's like this little guy, by the way, I think his old business partner's name is Mark or something who's a realtor down in Florida. Who's also married and has two kids. You know, it looks gay as a goose as well. And so he's like, you know, I mean, right?

And, you know, like, Mark just made this up out of it. Like, Mark wants this heat and, like, smoke on his family. So he comes out of nowhere to tell, like, the government that he slept with Todd Crisley. It's like, of course they had an affair. I do feel like, though, I do feel like there's got to be more people that say that they were with him. But I also feel like there's probably a lot of gay Christian men that do have sex with their wife and they just don't act on it. Maybe they watch gay porn. Maybe they masturbate, but maybe they don't ever physically, like, get with somebody else.

Which is like the business partner, Mark. Remember the staircase guy? Oh, that show, yes. With basically him, the guy that's that, you know, and he was, you know, turned out that he was gay and he was like, no, my second wife knew and she had no problem with. And her sisters were like, ah, no, she didn't. she had a problem with it no she was not like oh it's okay that you brought a hooker to our house a male hooker to our house like oh my god

because they always said in that the staircase that she went to her computer saw that he was corresponding with a gay male hooker who had already come to the house and they made plans for and then from there she confronted him and then he killed her and he says no she got drunk and fell down the stairs so that is one of the greatest stories Greatest documentaries, greatest, longest murder mystery ever.

But basically, he was Todd Chrissly in the way he spoke and acted and everything. I mean, it'll be interesting, like you said, to see if any prisoners come out with stories. And to your point, I think he picked the business partner, Mark, who is married with two grown sons. I mean, you know, it's like, that guy's not going to... I do think he's funny and he's smart.

He's entertaining. So, yeah, I think people in prison, whether they got physical with her or not probably were completely like entertained by him. Sure, yeah. This came out of this is Kate and John Gosseling. Kate plus Kate and John

plus eight. They had eight kids and one of the sex tuplets, one of the boys, Colin, when he was like 12, she had the custody because they got divorced and she said he was very misbehaved and really had a bunch of issues

and sent him away. He is now, um, is 21, I think, or is he 18, 18, 21? I think, yeah, there's somewhere around there. And he is on TikTok and he is doing kind of an open letter video to say he misses his seven siblings. Yeah. And he has no relationship with them and would like to. And I just think that's so sad and I really hope that they can connect as adults now. regardless of what I mean they

What they went through and he wrote Forced apart pitted against each other Colin captioned the post All the fame and money in the world But what about the kids being kids And then he wrote forced to do it alone And wonder every day What our lives could have looked like

So sad I mean Regardless of being on TV He may have had Issues And it might have been a real challenge for her. We don't know. And the kids may have remembered him being. I always think when you'd see those like Dr. Phil's or whatever or, you know, back in the day where one child was like physically

abusive to another child. And people were like, well, we had to get divorced. We had to separate. We didn't know what we were going to do. How do we protect our younger child? And there's people that didn't even get to that level that will, as adults, will be like, every time my brother walked behind me I'd be like this you know like I mean there are things where you like look back as a kid and you're like I was fucking like this was a nightmare so I I don't know you know what I think it's a more to the story but I but more importantly if you're one of these adult children now like why not try to meet him because you're physically you're not going to be even if you were even if you're scared of him at 10 like you're not going to be now I know that that's a family where you still want to to know so much about the inner dynamics. And I was just telling you, only about two weeks ago, Kate Goslin has now joined TikTok. And she's doing all the, get ready with me, her protein shake breakfast. If her clients, you know, she's a nurse.

She's like a pediatric nurse. So, you know, if people recognize her. Well, she has to. She's got to do something to make some money, right? Got to work. She openly talks about her kids will film her, but they refuse to be on her TikTok. So she just features herself and a new puppy, like the dog. that's a kid that's in there.

And, you know, she just still has that, like, awful personality. She's like, hi, guys, it's Kate. And it's just, like, this awful, like, bitch face. And she'll go into her, you know, this is what I'm making for lunch. And it's just, welcome back. So is it, but you feel so bad. And then John Goslin came out this week. And he says that, you know, he's been on TikTok for a minute.

But the moment Kate launched her TikTok, she instantly blocked him on TikTok. So we can't see it. It's so sad, right? I mean, all for what? Now that none of them have any of the money to show for it. And I don't think, I don't know. I mean, there's always been rumors they'll be back. Yeah, they're just, I just feel like reality stars are just so disposable.

Yes, totally. But then the fame is still always there. And like, it's just really hard. Real House of O.C., how are you feeling about the season? I like it. I think it's a return to a little bit of the OG. I'm a Gretchen fan. I like having her back.

I'm not sure if it's like the splash so far I was anticipating, but I still like her in the mix with Tamara. Yeah. And no, I like it. I mean, I can't say it's like, there's a riveting. We've seen so little of Slade. Very little of Slade, yeah, yeah. That is crazy.

Well, how do you feel about Emily? I'll have an espresso martini. God. Can't believe they put that in her tagline. I'll tell you what's going on. Well, the latest is, sorry, go ahead. No, no, no, you go, you go. So the latest with us with this is that Gina went on,

Watch Hums Live, and it came up how hypocritical it was for Emily to be so mad at Katie because her daughter babysat the twins and said that the twins came home and said that Heather's mean to their mom, Emily, and Emily didn't want to be on Heather's bad side. So according to Gina, Heather Dubrow went to Emily before the reunion and said, by the way, or gave her information about the fact that the reason Katie doesn't have custody of her kids or why, or question, why doesn't she have custody of her kids? And which is really cruel and really unfair. And honestly, one of the more selfless, if more parents in a divorce would do that selfless thing and be like, fine.

you know like the kids can live with you i'm gonna you know be there and visit we don't know what her situation yeah right right you don't know if it was abusive we don't know with the financial situation like nobody knows and we shouldn't have to know that why there's minors but like anyway so she says that it was heather so she says it on watch from his life and then heather responds let's set the record straight first of all i don't do research i do not research anyone that's not my mo i do not have time or interest to try to dig something up on other people. For the reunion last year, there was a lot of stories in the media circling about Katie, and some of us were sending them to each other because it was

overwhelming and crazy. I did in fact send an article about Katie's Cussie to Emily. I did nothing more than that, and I would never have brought this up at the reunion. Okay, Lisa Vanderpompe, I actually went up to Katie during the commercial break and said to her, that must have been very difficult time for you. Sure, after it was all exposed. I'm sorry you had to go through that. I never would have brought this up. Kids and careers are off limits. Careers. Isn't that your whole thing?

Your career? Yeah. Like, there is no other career. You're not acting, Heather. And Emily's not a lawyer. Okay? She was a party planner. Like, you know, and I don't know what Gina's real estate life is really, okay? So anyway, not really sure why Gina chose

to include this response, but on the show or make it sound salacious. Now, we all know, yeah, they all get that. They all get that stuff. They all get it sent to them. They all know it. They all talked about it. It goes back from the book.

Who brought the book of Daniel Stobb to the salon? Yeah. Oh, whatever. And then it all, who did it? And it's like, we all did it. We all talked about it. We found it at the library. We all were like, are you talking?

Like, it's been the beginning of time of Real Housewives history that this happens. But it's, it was Emily's choice to bring it up. So yes, do I think, but of course, Heather was happy to dig up some dirt and share it because she still claims that she didn't call the paparazzi. She's not lying. She didn't call the paparazzi. But someone did.

Right. Sure. Sure. You know, like. In her camp. I know how it works. Like, yeah, come on. I mean, I have, oh, I'm coming out of the, of taping a show, and they're there, okay?

They know that I'm doing the show because someone told them I'm doing the show and I'm like, hey, you're like, come on. Yeah, I know, right? You know, like. And you go to Craigs because you're coming out and you know TMZ will be there. Right. But, you know, the Disneyland and all that. So she probably said, yeah, like, probably someone said to Katie, yeah, those people get called. They're not waiting.

outside of a Costa Mesa grocery store to take photos of Bronwyn after her third lesbian wedding. Remember that? Where she was constantly being caught. I'm like, nobody is doing that. You could call them on yourselves. You could every person call them. Like, it doesn't, Kyle Richards has, I'm sure, calls them when she was out with Morgan. Like, come on. They're not just hanging around Ventura Boulevard with their camera. They're not. It's like, so she was still mad about that, though she was like, I'm not lying. I didn't call them and tell them I was going to be on Space Mountain at 2 o'clock. But I might have told my publicist, like, who knows what the truth is? But I thought it was so awful. I mean, and I just feel like this season is too much of

the Real Housewives of blackmailing. And it just feels so. You do. You think it's too dirty. There's nothing fun. I don't think there's like nothing like fun with them. It's so much about you did this and said this and then I don't know and it's like a yes and I think Heather's afraid of Tamara fuck I'm afraid of Tamara who isn't afraid of Tamara it's fucking scary yeah she is scary I know you mean yeah you know she's the one that said to

to Vicky on the couch you know you called me after our night in Cabo and said there's a naked guy next to me what are you talking about Tamara that's disgusting like clearly that happened Like that fucking happened Yeah they're afraid to Tamara You imagine you have a wild night

With who you think is your best friend And your best friend knows you're in a shit marriage And you call her and you're like Fuck let's take it to the grave And then a year and a half later You're on a couch At a reunion For all of your kids

And everybody to see And she brings up the fact that you Made out with another person while you're married or had sex? Think about how fucked up that is. And then she'll, and then it'll be, well, hurt people, hurt people. I hate that expression. Or, well, she said this about me.

I know, but it's all so gross. Like, it's also gross. Like, friendships end. And I think the grossest thing that happens when a friendship ends, whether it's on a reality show or in real life, is when, especially girls, and then that girlfriend that you shared that thing with, I know, brings it up, uses it against you.

It tells people or uses it. Like, can we just have a civil divorce? Can we just say that no matter what happens, we're not going to do this? And it just like, I just, I mean, to think that the three of them a year and a half ago were at the Irvine improv going, where that trace, me goes, ha, ha, ha, like. I know. And they all hate each other now. Yeah. After all those years of friendship.

It's like all you've written through. So, oh, but I'm still watching. I know, I am too. I really love, I like Jen pedantry. I want to see this, like, Ryan Bikini Wedding. I don't know. I like her. I like that storyline.

I like that storyline is good. I do. I like it, too. And I think the whole, I think that whole thing is interesting. And then, you know, and it's like, Seth Tamara's like, get Shannon off the show. She's a storyline. She's boring. What is Tamara's storyline?

line. Just that her friend is sick. And before that, Eddie was sick. And before that, Simon was sick. I mean, it's sad, but she's had a lot of sick people in her life. And then you should leave her alone because these people close to her are sick. So it's like. There's so many things I still want to know about Gretchen. Like how much did Gretchen get a lot of money from the guy that she was sort of sugar daddy that you bring that up to. And sad. That's first. And he died. The thing that it goes so far back with Tamara and Vic with Tamara and Gretchen is you went to Bass Lake it was bringing up the fact that she wasn't 24 seven a nursemaid for this older guy I think she got some money I don't think it was an enormous amount yeah I think

you're right in and around then she was dating somebody else allegedly she always said she wasn't dating him and that guy went to Tamara allegedly and gave in evidence that they were together in a romantic way when she was still when he was still alive Jeff then there was the thing the dirty remember the dirty the dirty the dirty was the dirty was before the internet went crazy um Nick Ritchie had this website where guys angry men basically would send basically revenge porn and talk about their extra girlfriends and people would write awful things about it started in Scottsdale and then it went over and it would just it was just it would just reveal awful things about their exes and it would go

crazy on the dirty so this guy sent salacious pictures of of Gretchen okay out and she at one point it's my understanding she did sue him and she did win years later but it went on forever this okay however it's on the show the photos are on the show in a past episode because I saw somebody showing it and here were the photos. The dirty. I cannot believe that Bravo

shows these photos. Wow. I guess now. This is from the episodes of the repeats that are on Peacock. Wow. And then this is what Tamara would make fun of is that one of the dildo things had a cord like you would or a vibrator you had to plug it in that's how long ago it was didn't have a USB charger wow so that's where the that's where the hatred and shit goes okay we're going to wrap it up because you are

a sister wives expert we know that Cody is going to do special forces and there's already rumors that there's some good fights with him and other people where do you think we're going to end or continue with sister wives you know I think about this way too much because part of me, you know, their rumor is that season 20, which will be out this fall, is it. You know, because he doesn't have sister wives anymore. He's in love with Robin. He's declared he doesn't want to be a polygamist anymore.

They've moved into this $2 million mansion in Flagstaff, Arizona. Wait, they have a new home now? Yes, they got rid of the McMansion that you've seen for years. They bought a $2 million, you know, over $2 million. They've moved into that. They never sold. They did sell it. All the pieces.

Sold for like $1.3 million, $1.2 million. Gone. It might even have been more than that. But anyhow, Coyote Pass is done. And, you know, what is the show? I mean, are we going to just follow these women? They all live in different parts of the country. Mary's in Parowan, Utah.

Christine's in Utah, but isn't friendly at all with Mary. Janelle moved with her daughter in North Carolina. I don't think there is a show. A lot of people think it's over season 20. Unless they're like hating on, I mean, I like, I like them all. like just, yeah, the dynamic was, you know, who's getting special treatment for Cody for 20 years. Right. And without that, I don't know. Well, and the kids, I mean, the kids are like John and K Plus A kids. None of them want to be on TV anymore. There does. Some of

them make appearances, but they don't, I mean, that would be the show, right? If, like, the kids were willing to be on because they're all, they're some of her lesbians, but they're all in different places. So they have all different, like, film crews following them. You know, But maybe financially, if they want to do it, maybe it still is so cheap that, I mean, I always said there must be the most poorly paid people on reality TV because they never seem to have like a pot to piss and they'd have like the paper plate parties and like, and then like they couldn't afford to like ever like lay down some pipes at Coyote Pass for like five years. I'm like, what are they getting paid? Well, the rumor was the past couple seasons. The only person that seems to be poorer than them is Gina of O. I'm like, Gina's been on the show for five years. years. She must be getting child support. She has a full-time job, you know, trying to sell houses as a realtor. She's on the show. She does sponsorships and brands. Yet, I just read in reality blurb that she now lives. How much do we think she's making? 253. She and the guy, Travis, they rent. They rent a house. It's $8,000 a month rent.

So that's $4,000. But I mean, they're renting. I'm saying so it's like her mortgage is $4,000. She keeps talking about how awful the ex-wife is on TV. I'm like, it's probably not helping the situation, but I get it. I just am like, why has Gina's life not improved at all? Like, why are we like, I mean, talk about minimum wage. Can we get a fair wage for these fucking reality show people? Like, what is this? We need Bethany's reality reckoning after all.

I mean, you know, how much is Gina really making? God, I mean, it's by five, but I always thought by like year five or six is when you finally We're making like 500,000, 600,000. I always feel like the most that I ever heard was Candy got like two or one five. But I know that Tamara and Vicky at one point we're getting like over a million. And Teresa, right? I mean, all these years, Teresa's got to have made a ton of money. I just am like, God, like.

I saw Jim, Gina and Emily did a show in L.A., but then I never saw any photos of it. So I'm like, did it happen? They're doing like a live show. Well, that's press of Martinez. Did anyone go to that? Emily just like lifting up her skirt hit my ass. She did have a

good ass though, don't you think? I know, but it's pretty good. But it was kind of weird. But it was yeah. No, she's ready. She's on the OZempic and she's ready to show that body. I know she says she doesn't do it anymore. She like, it kicked it kick started her and now she'll go back and forth. Who cares? Yeah, right, right. They. Jelly roll. You don't think jelly roll is down to

what's he down to? He's down 200 pounds. 40 to 3 something. Yeah. Okay. You think jelly rolls on the Ozemp. Of course. I mean, come on. You don't lose weight like that from walking or That's what he says. He says he walks way out from the tour bus to the venue. I mean, it's that or a gastric sleeve or both or whatever. And who cares?

It's all good. It's all healthy. But I mean, you know, it's. Oh, wow. I mean, come on. Well, Bunny's always so transparent. Remember one Star Jones said it was like from Pilates and like walking her dog? I know. Just say it's from fucking OZEP.

I know, and the sleeve. Star Jones was back then that was gastric. The sleeve. Well, we'll see what happens with Sister Wives. We will. It is going to end from what Mary Brown has told us. So it is, yeah, that's what she, the hint, she did my podcast. I know, I loved your Christine Brown-Willie interview.

You had such a good one. But she said when she was on my show about a year ago. You don't think Mary's gay? It's too bad she's not. No, that would be great if she was. That'd be a good storyline. I know. Oh, she's very hot for a man.

Yeah, it doesn't seem like it. Super hot for a man, so I don't think so. Yeah. Well, we'll see. Yeah. I kind of stopped watching it because basically we, I have a very hard time figuring out where things are playing on my TV. It's just.

It's over, look. I know there's, yeah, it's just so hard to find things. And I'm like, where is a streamer or what's it on? And at my old TV situation, I knew exactly where it was. And then once Peter changed the TV one more time, I just could never find it again. And it's like watching paint dry. It wasn't.

But it is the boringest thing. But there was a weird comfort when they kept, whenever they would go and wear their puffy jackets and skinny jeans to Coyote Pass, it was comforting. When they'd sit down and Mary would be like, look at the mountain. And then once that didn't happen,

once the change, I just kind of was like... I know. Well, a lot of people are with you. I mean, I feel like the last couple of seasons have been the most interesting. Like the women leaving him, finally calling him out, you know,

basically confessing it was all about Robin from the get-go. And then, I mean, you know, it was so tragic this past season, but they did a great job, you know, really memorializing Garrison and everything that happened there. So it's, uh, it is still compelling.

Well, Sarah, it was really fun. I'm really glad you came. Thank you for all the compliments. I did not, look, that was not for, I did not pay you for that. You didn't. I tell everybody where they can get more of you and your show and everything. The Sarah Frazier show, I put out an episode every day.

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