Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Jax Taylor of Vanderpump Rules, House of Villains, Reality TVs Future

Episode Date: October 31, 2023

Jax Taylor is back just in time to discuss the Vanity Fair article about the infamous reality reckoning! I read the whole thing so you don’t have to – we’ll cover it all! Tom Sandavol roller-skated into the grand opening of Jax’s LA restaurant. Why did Jax sleep on the couch in the House of Villians? Then, we get into the latest with Kyle and Mauricio, including his big real estate lawsuit. Is he in a relationship with his dance partner? Are Dorit and PK really separated? Enjoy this juicy episode! Shop Juicy Scoop Merch: https://juicyscoopshop.com Get extra juice on Patreon: https://patreon.com/juicyscoop Follow Me: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heathermcdonald TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Follow Jax: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrjaxtaylor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Woo-hoo, and a McDonald Juicy scoop Hello and welcome to Juicy scoop. Well, I have a very juicy great guest, friend of mine. Jack's Taylor, a restaurant tour. Well, yes, but you weren't at my my grand opening this weekend. It was well, I was at a wedding this weekend, but I went to the, I went to Jack's restaurant, which is right on the table of our great location,

beautiful, I talked about it, because we saw the villain show, which premiered, which we're going to get into that, but right when you sat down, you were talking about hockey. Yes. And I said, oh, have you heard of the team called the Bruins? Non-Solotly.

Yeah. And so my cousin is Charlie McAvoy. And that's, okay, for those of you who don't know who hockey players, that's like saying, do you know who Wayne Gratzki is? Like, he's really, really good. So she just non-Solotly came up, by the way, do you know this is? Most people would know that don't know the game. But if you know the game, everybody knows you Charlie McIvoyus.

So the relation is my dad and little Charlie, the players, grandmother were brother and sister. So big Charlie, who is his dad, we were first cousins. And our family did a lot together and always talked to my dad and his, and the grandma were really, really close. Sister brothers, sister very, very close. And so, but they grew up on the East Coast. So, like, I would get the scoop that he was taking his son to do hockey, like really young.

Like, we'd see all the photos and even, and the girls played too. And I would be like, wow, you know, because growing up here, I don't know anybody that played hockey. Anyway, so all those times that big Charlie took little Charlie, it all paid off because he's super successful. And he just got married. And he just got me. Yeah, yeah.

And so they're great. But so listen, I'll reach out. Please, I would love a jersey for my bar. That would be the, oh, because I, like I said, I collect hockey jerseys with signatures and stuff be the, oh, because I, I guess I like to talk to you, jerseys with signatures and stuff. So, man, if you can make that happen. I think I can make it happen.

I think I can make it happen. And then of course, if they come out here and play again, maybe we can all go together. Oh, that would be great. Yeah, that would be fun. Because we've gone to a couple of games. But on a sad note, we just want to cover very shocking news, Matthew Perry, of friends

passed away. And basically what the reports are is he played pickleball. As we know, he wrote a book. He was a recovered addict of prescription drugs. Bikin and was really his thing. And his assistant off to go pick up a new iPhone and some glasses. And when the assistant came back, you know, he was in the jacuzzi, unresponsive. So. Oh my gosh. I mean, from what it sounds, there was one prescription drug you was on that I think was like for a heart condition. So I think what probably happened is I think you probably

suffered a heart attack. And that is why you don't go in pools and jacuzzi's alone. Though I know a lot of people go on a jacuzzi alone because you're like, you're gonna be just to be an hunter-cousi alone because it's so hot and it's not really good. Your insides are cooking basically. So let that kind of be a lesson too,

like not to do that, but really, really sad. We all loved friends. And your show, Vanderpump Rules, is like a modern day realistic version of friends. And I think that's why it's had such a big resurgence with Gen Z. Yeah. They all started watching it. Well, we could start streaming it.

So really sad. And I, I mean, but I'm like happy that they had that reunion. Like, you know, it just even when I watched that reunion, he seemed like he was really in a dark place. I mean, he just seemed really sad. Yeah. You know, it just seems he almost seems like nobody cared about him. You know, I'm saying he's like, no no one's gonna care if I'm here or not.

And then when they said, we all keep in touch and then he goes, well, no one calls me. Did you realize that? He did, but he did say Jennifer Aniston always did. Oh, he did, okay. And then the book came out after that. Okay. So then I think he was like on a better path.

Of like, you know, acknowledging it. And I don't know if you know that Keith Morrison is a stepdad from Dateline. Okay you know that Keith Morrison is a stepdad. Oh, I did not. From Dateline. Okay. Yeah. It's been a stepdad. What did you say?

I mean, they just showed a photo of them, like going to the house, that you can't even imagine, like with the mom and everything, what that must be like. So, very, very sad news. But. You never know what people are going through too. And like, it seemed like, and all his interviews, I've been kind of watching online and stuff,

you just see how sad he was, and just seemed like, nobody was going to care if I die. I online and stuff, you just see how sad he was and just seemed like, nobody was gonna care if I die. I haven't figured it was gonna be shocked when I die. Just seemed really. Yeah, he did say a lot of things like that. And I did think in that reunion, and I talked about it too, because you know, and I said he seemed like bitter.

Yeah. He kind of seemed bitter. And I think he had in the book, he was really honest about a lot of his insecurities. Even though he was like so naturally talented comedically, you know, when you think about like the show, I mean, they all were so funny and they're, you know, they're all were great. All six of them. Why the show was so successful because everybody was good on it. But, you know, he went on to like have some more movies and success. But then I think that waned off because he started having the prescription addiction.

Yeah. You know, to the bike and end. So anyway, very, very sad. Love to all of his friends and family, which he had a lot. So okay, now this just broke this morning. So I'm gonna tell you all about it because I read it, not to sound like Sutton

from Beverly Hills, but I do read big long articles. This is a big long article from the Vanity Fair inside the Real Housewives reckoning that's rocking bravo. And so this is so to fill you in. Okay. Bethany Frankle has been talking about this reality reckoning, Israel. And a lot of people think that this because of her talking about reality reckoning on her podcast and on her social media You know how screwed up everything is over at bravo now that she's no longer part of it That somehow the articles was was starting to be written because of her the inside scoop I got is that this article has been in the works for a really long time and She found out about it in which then she hopped onto it.

So I don't know which came first to chicken or the egg. Is she bitter at the network for letting her go or did she leave on her own or why is she doing this? I think in a nutshell, this is it. Is I think that somewhere in the last six months, or last five, three, four, I don't know, a few months, she kind of realized that Bravo and her are done with each other. And then she was like, I'm fucking burned in the bridge.

Like if I am no longer going to be part of this machine, and she says, I'm going to break down the machine. And I'm going to fucking just, I'm going to, I want to go down in history is like, remember when Bravo was happening in 2023, well now it's not. I honestly think. And in doing it, she's doing it in like a righteous way. Like these people are being taken advantage. Let's do a, let's join SAG after. Let's make sure we have a union. They are reinforced to drink. They're, they're forced to do this and that. Meanwhile, like, you know, she- No one's putting a gun to her head, okay? So I don't know why she's saying things like this.

She also has a gazillion dollars in the bank, okay? So she doesn't care if she burns bridges. Where all of us, this is our job, this is our home, and you're just bashing our network. Like I said, no one's making us do this. This is, you know, this is a privilege, not a right. So I don't agree with, and also using Raquel as like a pawn. Raquel is very fragile, okay?

She's in a fragile state. You're using somebody who just went through one of the biggest reality catastrophes known to man, and you're kind of using her as a pawn. And I just don't think that's right. Personally, I don't know what you think. Well, I do think that, and I, you know, as far as someone who followed it all, you know,

I'm a fan of the shows, I talk about the shows, I know a lot far as someone who followed it all, you know, I'm a fan of the shows, I talk about the shows, I know a lot of you. Are you a fan of Bethany? No, I'm not a fan of Bethany. I'm not. I mean, I think she's very hypocritical and I think she's very easy to see through. However, as someone who's watched the shows for all the times, I've certainly enjoyed her.

I definitely think she makes great TV and she she knows she does. And she says it. And one of the things she says right at the top of the article, it says, everybody wants the bag of shit to not be on them at all times, Frankl told Vanity Fair. So she then she goes, in July, she called for her former reality TV peers to unionize and directed them to legal resources.

She described some of the yeast caspites and crew as, quote, people I never would have given the time of day, who I judge through a toxic process and who may not have a past I normally respect, but who have been tossed away after being used like trash. It's kill or be killed. She has all these questions. She has all these analogies where she's like,

reality show is a game and you know, if I'm the quarterback and you don't catch the ball and like it's just anyway. So she talks about it like that. So I think, so yeah, I think that now that she's done with it and she realizes that all she was pitching a bunch of shows prior to the reality reckoning with Bravo or any network to Bravo. Okay. My understanding. Okay. And any network? To Bravo. Okay. My understanding.

And it didn't work out. Okay. So now she's... So it's like the plate is clean. There's nothing like you're telling me you had something in production called, you know, the real housewives of Connecticut, and you were to be the producer of it,

which is I believe one of the things she was pitching because she has a home in Connecticut. If that was in production and being filmed right now, do you think that she would be giving these quotes? No. No, no, no. And I honestly didn't allow, I didn't know. I didn't think Bravo Talent were allowed to be producers.

Is that a lot of love? Well, I think she was no longer on the shows. Okay. And then she had her, she was putting her own shows together. There was another one with these women in Miami that she was going to do like a mommy girl show in Miami with this woman who has come out and said how awful the contract was. That she was putting forth, Bethany was as a producer and now she's saying how awful these

contracts are from Bravo, yet she was attempting to be the Andy Cohen at one point when all those shows didn't go. And she's just like the rest of us with a podcast talking about it. Guess what? Andy's evil producers are manipulative and they're forcing people to drink and act like assholes on camera. I mean, I hate that she's just throwing everybody in the lump with this. Maybe she and her show they were doing that, that. But yes, of course, they supply alcohol.

But like I said, I just don't understand, throwing everybody under the bus like this, and then just saying, well, this is how it is, and this is how it is, I'm very happy in my world, and I'm not currently on the network. And yeah, they could have done certain people wrong on our show. But like I said, we all want to be part of it.

We all like it. We all enjoy it. We all enjoy it. We know it's putting a gun to our head. I just don't understand it. I think it sounds like she's bitter to me. It sounds like she's bitter. It sounds like they're not giving her what she wants. And she has money in the bank so she can go after them and don't have to worry about it.

So we're other people in reality don't really have the luxury of going after them because they just can't afford it. I mean, sometimes being super righteous and saying whatever the fuck you want, that is a luxury. That is a luxury. That is a luxury. I mean, it's nice to be able to do that

in that script here, but I don't think she should lump everybody in and saying, oh, they do this on all shows. It sounds like she's saying it's all shows. She needs to not say that. Like, that's not true. Well, I mean, I'm just reading, I don't know that she's saying about that.

And is it the network in general? She's going after NBC or she's going after Bravo specifically or she's going after? She basically has put together or talked to some attorneys, but she has not filed a lawsuit herself or it's Bethany Frankl versus whatever. She's kind of putting it out there PR-wise and encouraging former reality stars

to contact attorneys to put forth lawsuits. I find it with that. Good luck going up against NBC. I got lawyers on lawyers on lawyers on lawyers. I don't care how much money you have. Good luck. Well, Leah Mixweeney has filed a lawsuit.

Do you remember her? She was on Real House of New York, I think only two or three seasons and she was kind of the young girl that joined. And according to this article, she was sober for nine years, but as she was going through the interview process, she admits herself that she told him, Hey, I'm able to drink now. Well, I'm like, okay, do whatever you want. So then when she starts filming, she gets so drunk and she says, well, right before this really drunk moment, a producer said,

this shit's boring. We got to up it up. And then she allegedly then just stride, well, not allegedly. Then she gets very drunk because we see it. And she's naked with just a geessering on and she takes a teaky torch at Ramona's Hampton's house and throws it in the water. And it's an iconic moment that people talk about, okay? So then they're like, okay, then the next season,

she gets sober and she says while I was sober, my grandmother was in hospice. And I said, I don't know if I should go to this Hampton's thing because my grandmother's really sick. And the producer said, you can stay with your grandmother or you can come and as soon as you want to leave, we'll arrange for you to leave. It's up to you.

So then she says, I went, but I felt like, even though they said that I didn't have to go, I felt like I should go. And then Heather Gay has said, who's on Real House Justice Salt Lake City at one point, she's like, even if I was in that position, I'd probably go to please my employers. Right. Well, I think anybody with any job I worked on Chelsea and I was looking at athletes. They're both a pitcher who breaks his arm. He wants to get his ass back in because he's going to lose his job out to somebody else.

Look at, I mean, if there was even a frauds developer, I remember when Rachel had her baby, she didn't want to come back to work faster because she was gonna lose her job to the good-looking guy. Remember, that would happen in any job. That's gonna happen in New Jersey. We can't just pigeonhole it to reality TV. I, I, listen, I know. Every job, people, it's competitive world.

That's the world we live in. It's competitive. So, my dad died. He died on a Friday and that morning, I said, hey, I'm not coming in. My dad has died. He was in hospice. I worked on a TV show that morning I said, hey, I'm not coming in. My dad has died. He was in hospice. I worked on a TV show.

Chelsea Laley. Everyone was very nice about it. And I said, but we're not going to have, he got cremated. If you cremate someone, it takes longer. Okay. So you have a funeral or whatever, a little later. So I'm like, they're like, take as much time as you want. I go, well, actually I'm going to come in on Monday because when the funeral happens,

two weeks from now, I don't want it, it's going to be on a Tuesday or whatever it was. And I want to take the rest of the week off then. Right. And they're like, okay, but then even so I go on Tuesday for the funeral, which is all here in LA. And then on Wednesday, I did get a message from the producer. Not being mean, just are you coming in today? And it put a panic in me. Like, I was just my sister and I'm like, oh, fuck. What do I write?

And then I was like, I don't know. I thought I made it clear to you. Like, I need to be with my mom and we're like, we're working with the other siblings to get rid of some stuff. And like, and then she was like, okay, fine. But I'm like, that's every job. Yeah, that's every job. That's every job.

So. So it's like, I mean, you know, and then they, I'm saying like, have you don't want to be it? So that's one part of it that she says about it. And then she went on ultimate girls trip and they said, she said, Andy said, hey, you know, go on ultimate girls trip, you know,

because eventually we think we want to get you back on the real housewives legacy, which was gonna be all the old geez, whatever. And so she's okay, well, she goes there and then she says, one of the girls is like, so you really don't drink now and she goes, no. So she thinks that's bad, that someone even asked her. And then she sent to the producers,

did you have that girl ask me? And they're like, no, she just asked. Like, this is what proves trying to figure out since you were sober, then you weren't, then you want a lot of people feel like, well, I can now, whatever, that's their progative. Then she gets really sick and she was sick the whole trip and she wasn't really fun.

It wasn't her fault, but she was sick. So she, and he was, so now they don't want her on anything anymore. So now she has nothing to lose. So she, her lawsuit is under the, the American's Disability Act. She's suing them, I guess because her disability would be alcoholism.

And somehow they didn't, with her in that. I'm just laughing at the situation. I'm not I'm not poking fun I just think it's I think it's just silly. I think this is I mean people now I don't know. I mean law has been sober for five years Yeah, and She you know they talk about alcohol. They talk about it all the time. She comes out of my house a lot of time Everyone's drinking she don't do it saying thing they talk about it on film all the time And if it was a problem for her, then she wouldn't be on the show.

Yeah, she would eliminate herself from the area, but she has no problem with it. But although, again, it teaches on everyone's different, I guess. But yeah, first of all, you're putting yourself in a show that's just, it's gonna be there, it's around. It's like, you know what I'm saying? It's like, why would you put yourself in a situation if you're uncomfortable drinking when a show is primarily

the girl's going out to dinner and going to bars and they're drinking? If you know that's gonna happen, why would you put yourself in that situation? And if you don't like it, then you should escort yourself out. So you can't have your cake and eat it too. I'm sorry, you can't. And then, so she said, well, for ultimate girls trip there,

like, come on, it's 250. What do you think you're gonna do on a girls trip, sit around and, and twirl your thumbs and do each other's hair? I have to say this, the Thailand trip that they went on was not that good. It was kind of boring. Right. Now, there was another girls trip that was at Derinda's house. That was, I believe, the second one.

So there was one that they did, like in the Bahamas or something. And then the second one was Durenda's, which was pretty fun. And Brandy Glandvo was there and she likes to boost it up. And they had this guy who was an actor who then I guess got to be on the show as the butler. And just now he has filed a lawsuit saying he was sexually harassed because

Fadre smacked his butt one night. And. Oh my gosh. This is reality TV. Not everyone just nitpicking. Like, what do you want? We all these shows are gonna get canceled if you can't have anything fun. I mean the whole point of my mouth shows.

Don't you think that's the point though, a bastardies reckoning is that eventually, it's like, you know what, you ruined it. Now nobody gets to have any fun. Yeah, how are you basically, you're ruining everybody. You're ruining it for everybody. We're no longer gonna make this a TV entertainment thing anymore. It's going to be, you're ruining everybody. You're ruining everybody. We're no longer gonna make this a TV entertainment thing anymore.

It's going to be, you know, two drink maximum a night and, you know, you're going to have to, we're gonna have breathalyzers every three hours. Right. And if anybody's over a point, oh, eight, then you're gonna go and have a snack. And like, what the fuck is this? More than June Cleaver. That's what they want. They want to be able to leave it to Bieber.

Like, what do you want? Nobody's gonna watch boring TV. People want chaos, destruction, you know, that's what they want. They want to be able to leave it to beaver. Like, what do you want? Nobody's gonna watch boring TV. People want chaos, destruction. That's why villains, that's what they want. Yeah. Nobody's tuning in to sit around and talk about. Okay, so then, then it gets into Ramona. This message is brought to you by Cologuard.

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Now when I love this. Corona. When Ramona was on the show, I love me. So we're on the last season was with Beth with a Ebony. They brought on Ebony K Williams, who's an attorney much younger. And I don't think she was 40 really pretty woman. And you know, it was at a volatile time in social history. Okay. With talking about, you know, Black Lives Matter, all that, COVID, it was just a lot.

It was not a fun time for the world. Okay. So anyway, she's on. And they in the article, they're talking about this season singer also allegedly told a Black woman staffer, quote, there's so many of you guys here now, please don't change your hair. I'm not going to be able to remember anybody's name. She said, look, this is something commonly I do. I mix up people's names. I'm, it was not a racial thing about black women's hairs. What Ramona has said. Singer said this is the kind of thing she commonly did.

It was strictly a commentary on my inability to remember names. As an example, just last week I saw a photo with me and Travis Kelsey. Ramona said this. From 2016 on Watch What Happens Live and I thought he was Jack's Taylor. I mean, just I take that as a compliment. I mean, should I? I don't think you should take it not as a compliment. I think it is very much a Ramona thing.

It is a Ramona thing. I mean, she's 63, she's sharp and she's funny. Yes. But that is who she is. That's who she is. It doesn't mean she's a bad person in my opinion. But yeah, you know, some people are not good with names, not good and they're like, you know, like even when I first

met her, I was at a Jill Zare and thing and she heard my name and she's like, who is Heather? And I'm like, I'm Heather. I'm big fan of Matthew. I've had her on I've had her on the show. She was nice. She was nice. She's for a sass later. She's that's kind of her. She is. And then, you know, and then what's the problem is so they have a a talk on the phone before Ebony comes on to like openly talk about You know Black and black and white people hanging out together. I don't know how to even say it because anything I say is gonna be seen as bad too

But anyway, so she asked a question about it Ramona on the call and they're like Well, that's like offensive or what, and she's like, oh no, it was about, they said, and please don't ever talk about, somehow came up about black children, they're being a lack of father figures

in black children's lives, okay? And she's like, well, I just thought to statistic on that, and that is true. And they're like, well, don't ever say that. And she goes, okay, but I thought this was where I could ask a question. I thought this was the open. Anything is free time because I'm who I am. And I should never mention this statistic. No, you should not. Okay, I'm almost feeling like if I was her bonus friend back in the day, I would be like, honestly, you need like a coach.

You need like a coach to get you up on everything, not to call anyone angry, not to. These are microaggressions. This is the things to be sensitive about. In her defense, though, you have to understand, it's very tough. It's every week, it's changing on what we can say and what we can't say.

You have to agree with that. Yes, yeah. Every week, now, one week, it could be not okay to talk about this in the following week. It's like, okay, the world said it's okay to talk about that. And then we're not have to agree with that. Yes, yeah. Every week, now one week it could be not okay to talk about this and the following week it's like, okay, the world said it's okay to talk about that and then we're not allowed to talk about this. I feel like there should be a book

that comes out every week on what we're allowed to talk about, we're not. I mean, it's confusing for the people, it is, because you don't know. Yeah, well, it's like in the 90s, it was to, you know, African-American. Right. And then I remember working on...

But we're not even talking about race anymore. We're talking about literally... We're like a word, but I... Every time. Medication's, people's mental health. Yeah. You know, whether the sky's blue or black or green or what... I mean, you can't...

You literally have to sit there and be very careful about everything you say or it could be misconstrued and you get in trouble. Right. So, but I remember working on... I worked on the Wayne's Brothers with the Wayne's Brothers on several products. And I remember I said, so you prefer, it's, you know, I said African-American, they go, please don't say that. And I go, oh, and they, they go, we prefer black.

And I go, you do. And they're like, yeah, because we're black. Not all of us are from Africa. And I was like, oh, well, then who started that? So then post 2020, I had a black person on the show and I go, who started it? And then he goes, oh, this white people did. And then I looked it up and no, they didn't.

And I was like, okay, so I'm like, I just think, especially take someone who's older and really been around, you know, so shit, anyway. And feel a little angry, defending her. But I'm not, anyways, this is the story. So then she goes on to say, they're really kind of going after her. And then this is where she gets in trouble. So she has this scene with Williams, and she thinks it goes great. But afterwards, the producer stays with her. And singer told Edminson

that her, this is the Edminson was the producer. That her interaction with Ebony Williams reminded her of when this is now she's denying this conversation, but of when a Jewish colleague used a Catholic slur with her when she was a young woman and called her a shiksha. Now a shiksha is like my sister is a shikssa, meaning she's married a Jewish guy, but she's not, blombed, luide, whatever. I've never known it to be a negative thing. We always thought it was kind of like flattering and fun, okay, but whatever, whatever. So she tried to say that.

And then the woman goes, I've never heard of that term. What does that mean? And then Ramona says, it's like if someone called you the end word. And just her saying that, then this investigation went down. Oh my gosh. And so then she said, well, I never said the actual word. I was trying to explain what it, you know, that it could be drugs. And they're like, so at her attorney said she's never said it and they did a full investigation and nobody ever said she said it. And, but then the producer was like I was shaking

and so, you know, that's everyone's own perspective because it wasn't on camera. So none of this was like camera, so there's no way to say, but then they decided not to have at all the reunion. It was the first time in real housewife history. They did not have a reunion in that season. They just were like, fuck this. Because of the situation, because they said,

you know what, it's just not. They're just like, it's just too, it's too much. It's too, they're all fucking landmines. Like everyone from the Bravo exec to the producer, to Ramona, to Ebony could step in a landmine. Right. That is just taking away from the fact that the show is supposed to be an escape.

Right. It's supposed to be fun. I know, and that's what we thought reality TV is. People go to work, right? They want to come home, they want to turn their brains off, and they want to watch Trashy to generate train wreck TV. And then they realize, okay, my life really isn't that bad. I could be these idiots on TV.

Like, that's what reality TV is. It's supposed to be like, okay. And relatable. Like, so whether you can relate to a bunch of women or a bunch of young people working together or raising their young kids, or what you go to where you are like, oh my God, my friends, you know, like what I love.

I'm honest, we'll be an actor and get scripts then. We might as well just go that way, because that's where it's heading. I mean, because when I was, you know, in college and stuff, I always was like, we didn't really really show the first season of MTV's real world, did not come out until my first year at a college. And I, and it was Venice, you know, New York was first then Venice. And I was like, yeah, that was Venice.

And I was like, oh my God, I love this. I can't turn away. I feel like I'm in it. And I'm like, what I, but it was raw. It was like they were dealing with, you know, I think they had the first, uh, I think in a game, I had AIDS.

I was just Pedro. I've paid a member of Pedro. Pedro, Pedro is a mori or something. He passed away. Yeah, but it was dealing with stuff like that, relationships, gay, straight, different races. And I remember running home from school

because I was in high school. Throw my backpack down and watch MTV AB, TRL, and then write in a real world. And we're like, whoa, this is just so cool. And I remember wanting to be on it so bad. I was in college like trying to write. I was trying to write. I wrote a letter too.

Oh my God, we're not you just want to be in a real world. I think I wrote a letter, but never figured out. We were sending. I didn't know where to send it. I was in college during English class. I remember to a T writing it as I but never figured out where to send it. I didn't know where to send it. I was in college during English class. I remember doing a tea, writing it as I was supposed to be listening to my essay, but then I couldn't figure out where to send it in those days. We didn't know.

So, anyway, that's so funny. Yeah, but I remember the funnest times in college or whatever post-cars is, I'd be like, God, I wish I would literally say this. I wish there were cameras right now because the funniest thing is the morning after recap. Yes. And when you guys would go on trips or be hung over or talk about what happened the night before and you guys are all getting coffeeed,

you come over to the apartment with the two giant burritos and like, let's fucking talk it out. That is what I think people like love. Or whether it's a girls trip and you're like, two girls are walking on the beach talking about, well, what the fuck is her problem? Well, I don't know. I don't think the husband's that great.

That is true. Like, that is what people say and we get to see it. That's what we're in it for. We're not here to hope that people's lives get destroyed. We just want to see them. And so the people on the Bravo side are like, look, we don't tell anyone to drink. We stock the fridge and everything.

But if there's to live their authentic life. So if they're going to have some drinks when they're on Mexico with their friends, on a vacation, out of Mexican restaurant, in real life, when the cameras are there, that's what they should do as well. Right, right. I mean, if you have a good time without alcohol,

then more power to you. Yeah. It's there if you want it. Right. You're not supposed to gamble either. You're not supposed to smoke cigarettes either. You're not supposed to do a lot of things, but it's there.

Yeah. If you want, no one's forcing you, but it is there. Right. Okay, so it's teach his own. You have to be strong enough or disciplined enough to not do it if you don't like it. And you can't drink and then you get yourself in trouble and then go ahead, well, it's Bravo or NBC's fault.

No, it's not their fault. Well, it's your fault for being irresponsible. No, it's not their fault. It's not their fault. It's your fault for being irresponsible. You should be smart enough by this point to being on a reality show to entertain without needing alcohol. Me on the other hand, I need alcohol. Right.

Alcohol. And I love Bravo and NBC for it. So I'm always like, yes, bring it on. Right. Yeah. I've been drinking. So Bethany says, and then we'll wrap this up. Bethany says, I was a part of it.

I wanted to be Andy's favorite. I love that I was Andy's favorite. I love that I was able to make good television and produce it at the same time. I love the producers. I knew I was the best. She's... Sounds like me.

That sounds like me to a T. I was in the machine. I was the machine. I created the machine. That is me to a T. A her new machine to remake the medium that made her, Frankl says, it's my penance presented with the idea that she might participate in Frankl's organizing Williams,

Ebony Williams said, fuck Bethany, Frankl, you think I'm gonna let some white girl speak for me with my experience with a multi-billion dollar corporation, meaning like she's good on her own. Right, she is. That's why she could do this. And Abani has her own show now. She's like a judge on a show.

I don't think she ever has to come back to it. But I don't, I think she wasn't, she participated in this article because she wasn't thrilled because she, they said, we want you, Bethany. I'm sorry, we want you, Abani. We chose you. You're the black, we want you, Bethany. I'm sorry, we want you, Ebony. We chose you. You're the black girl we want. You're doing great. And then halfway through the season,

they're like, okay, the show was supposed to be fun. So she was kind of like, so I, and then of course, she wasn't asked back. So I think she's kind of like a little bit like that. And she doesn't need them. But she's bright and has her own thing going. So anyway, that is has her own thing going. Um, so anyway, that, that is the scoop with this article and everyone was shaking in their boots. And it's

honestly, we already heard all about, but they say anything else about anybody from Vanderpuff. Oh, just about Ruck Kell that Ruck Kell that, you know, these were the mean things that were said about her on. I think it's fair. They took advantage. I, I, I'm not on Ruck Kell side at all, but I also look playing it from the other side. I just don't think they, that was right for Bethany. She was't think it's fair they took advantage. I'm not on Rikkel side at all, but I'm also looking for playing it from the other side. I just don't think that was right for Bethany. She was doing it for clicks. Let's be honest, that's why she was doing this.

So just reach out to Rikkel when she's in such a fragile state. And I don't know if she was in a home or seeking help or not, but reaching out to her after such a crazy, crazy last season of Vanderpump and then kind of almost praying on her a little bit and kind of poking her a little bit when she's trying to figure herself out and realizing what did I just get into? She's kind of prodding her.

I just don't think that was right. I don't think that was right for her to do. And I think that may have hurt Requel's chances of everyone to come back on reality TV again too. Yeah, well, I think she was in a mental state to make these kind of decisions and talk about stuff like this. I don't know who Rekels people are.

I don't know who's guiding her, but she should have never done that. Well, I think once Rekel decided, I'm not coming back to the show. Who decided that? She decided that, the parents decided that. I think everything I heard is... The network decided that.

That she wanted, this is what the rumors I heard is that she was considering it, considering it, but wanted the same amount of money that Ariana and Tom were making, Tom Seneval. And because it's based on seniority, how much money you make, they're like, no, you're due to come back as season, whatever. This is what you're going to get. And then more and more time was passing.

They were already starting to film. And then I think she just sort of was like, I'm gonna cut my losses, I'm not going to do it. And then somehow Bethany and her mother, her mother was a fan of Bethany, they got into it. I have no doubt that she did get some money from Bethany. In my opinion, I have no doubt she did. But I don't think it's anything that was worth it.

Right. What she should have done, and I still think she could, is because I don't think she was ready to do this interview. I don't think she was completely, like her perspective at four months is gonna be completely different

than what it's gonna be at, at 14 months. Right. And I think she needed a longer time. Right. And then, and she still could do this, and then just really fucking write the book. And I mean write the book and write like, I almost thought we were gonna get caught this time.

I felt disgusted, but then I had this conversation, the cameras were there. Like if we could get everything that really happened from her perspective, but not today. Like a year from now. Like a year from now. So blinded by the light, you know, like I said, kind of like the song. I think, because that's what makes it different

because everybody on the show is cheated. Everybody has, except for Katie. But so I just think the reason it was different is because she saw this as a game and I think she saw what was going on and she thought, okay, I think she kind of just rode the storm and I think Tom, sand of all kind of just, almost, I don't see manipulated the situation, but think she kind of just rode the storm. And I think Tom, sand of all, kind of just almost, I don't see,

manipulated the situation, but kind of coached her along the way and told her what to do and what not to do. And I think she was so in deep by then, and she was just so infatuated with Tom at the time. I think she just kind of went along with whatever he said, you know, because he was looked at as like, okay, he's at the top. He knows what he's doing. So as long as he says, what's going on,

we'll just keep going with this. The part that I really felt for her was when she did like a show up of my bar as weekend by the way. He showed up at my bar this weekend shocked. He showed up at my Halloween thing this weekend rolled in at the S Ken from Barbie. Wait, I want to hear all about them, but I just want to say really quick, just so far forget. We're on to what you were saying. The part that I really felt for her, and I think people saw a clear picture of the manipulation of what happened, was when she did some interview

like that was featured after the reunion or maybe it was the same day or whatever, and where her story was like slipping up. Right. And she kind of panicked, and it was like, this is the story I'm supposed to tell. I was told to say the story. And you think a lot of people are telling her this story?

And if he gets mad at me, then I have nobody. Because now I have no friends and the show, and now of course they're not together. And that's why now she's coming forward. That's why I'm like, I still think, I just don't think she was remorseful enough when she did Bethany's and it was not good for Bethany. It was not good for her to do Bethany's.

It did not help her cause. Go away. I still think, come back when you really have that perspective and then capitalize off of it by really giving us the juicy, juicy, like start taking notes about the first time this. He said this to me, I can't, you know, I, we were upstairs and Ariana was making a salad downstairs and he said, like, that is what we want to know. What goes through a long-term cheater's mind. That's not a one-night stand. Like, what is it when it's like, and your friends with someone, that is why it was so big

or because it was so long. Everybody's done like a one night stand or kind of a, you know, it was a double life. It was a double life. It wasn't a one night stand. It was a double life. I just keep it over how he did it for so long. How they got away with it for so long

because I'm trying, I'm not saying that, you know, he's not a very smart cheater. Like he's very blatant about it. It was very obvious. If you go look back now and be like, it's clear as day, there was something going on here. If you go back and watch other episodes. Throw out, relate, shabby.

I should shove your ass and do a little things behind the scenes and stuff like that and just doing the innuendos and staying over at the house and going out late night dancing. I don't know about you, but would you let your significant other do any of these things that even though it's her friend? I don't know.

Maybe Ariana is just very trustful and she's like, you know, I have no reason not to trust Tom, but I think it's because he just was so, and he were also blinded by it. Like they're all just like, oh, nothing's going on. And nothing's going on. I don't know. I mean, we can talk about the face. So Peter here just got a thing on his text. Huh?

Peter just got a text that he shared with, with both of us, okay? And just random number pops up, hey, wanna get coffee in golf today? So he's like, who's this? He's a big golfer. And like usually they're not asking to get coffee for the guys, you know? It's like, hey, knucklehead, da-da-da, whatever.

Okay, and then he's like, who is this? And she's like, don't remember me. And it's just beautiful young Asian girl like in front of a painting. And it's this beautiful young Asian girl like in front of a painting. And it's these random things. It's the same people that are tricking the Gen Z boys with send me nudes, you know about that, where these girls will start writing these young boys.

And they're like, it's all a scam. They're all like like the Nigerian people or whatever. And then they go, who is this oh we met Here's my here's a photo of me. So now they're start talking to a cute girl Right, and she sends them nudes and then the young boy sends him news and then they go will now give me $600 and the boy only has 300 and he's too scared to tell his parents that he sent a nude and They have like there's there's cases where these boys have like ended their lives. Oh my god. So it's like so I get emails from these girls too. Oh, random scam. Like, hey, want to hang out? Like they think I'm a dude or something.

I'm like, it is so. And then and then to be a reality person and and have some of these people maybe pose and try to DM certain people. And then they screen grab those DMs to try to incriminate. So on top of you doing the show, you have this whole other world where these quote unquote fans, trolls, haters, whatever are like trying to get any kind of info to make you look bad. It's really, it's really scary. But wait, I want to hear about the Halloween part.

My grand opening was this Saturday. It was the absolute thing. I was in a Hawaii, I'm sorry, Hawaii. I was in Las Vegas. I was in Las Vegas. Yeah. At a fabulous, fabulous wedding at the win. Was it beautiful?

It was in a quite a 30 person band. Oh, wow. It was ridiculous. Are you going for Bravo Con, by the way? Yes. Well, I have a show there on Saturday, a sold out show at the Venetian. I will be there, Bernie and I will be there

at during Bravocon, but not at Bravocon. We are doing an appearance at the Venetian. What, I'm not the Venetian. What day are the Venetian? The Saturday. So you hear, what time? Okay, just come to the restaurant. I'll get you all the information.

That's going to come out today. I'll get you all the time. I can't, I don't have the game of the restaurant. Okay, then maybe you can pop by or I can pop by after. Yeah, yeah, for sure. We're not technically, I don't think technically we're not, we're not allowed to leave Venetian, you know how the rules are in Vegas. They're very strict with something.

So I'm on the line of Venetian too. That's what I'm saying. If they're paying you, then you're not allowed to go to different properties. Okay. So I'm going to, then we're going to the restaurant and then we're going to the Venetian's night spot after. So, but we're property of Venetian for that day. So technically we're not allowed to do the problem.

We are hanging out the Venetian together. Yes. I love the Venetian. I love the Venetian. I've done my show there. I think this is like the seventh, sixth or seventh time I've been there. So, the show's been sold out for hour. They just put me up on the thing. Just as I was leaving the wedding, I would go by the Venetian and I go, oh, I hope this screen shows my, and it did. And I was able to grab it and sold out. Oh, nice. And it's seen your thing sold and I was able to grab it and sold out and like Oh nice. That's awesome. Isn't it seeing your thing sold out? Yeah, I mean, and then so if I go to anything at Bravo, it might be Saturday afternoon or it might be Sunday night. But like, you know, at the actual Bravo.

We've been welcomed to your show or something like that. Yeah, that would be great. Awesome. So, okay, so you had your grand opening and people were Halloween costumes. Yes, we did our grand opening. We've been open now for a couple of weeks, but we did a couple of soft openings, obviously, to train the staff, kinda get the menu going, get people, just cleaning it with the whole property.

But Saturday was our grand-grand opening. I just can't get over how fast we got this place open, so fast for certain reasons that I cannot say. We had to open really quick. You all soon find out. But Halloween was just a huge success. Everybody invited showed up. It Halloween was just a huge success. You know, everybody invited showed up. It was just such a fun night.

I wish I had your photo, because you guys went as Jessica Rabbit but when she's the detective. Right, she's the detective. And you're the rabbit. And I did the modern version of Roger Rabbit. Okay, thank you. But yeah, and then Tom Santa Ball rolled in literally,

no pun intended, rolled in on roller skates. And I was kind of like, who did he come back? He came with shorts. He came with shorts, they were at their bar. And I'd said guys, Tom sorts, come on over. And I didn't know he was bringing Tom Sanneval and I was kind of in shock when he rolled in

and I'm looking at everybody and I'm like, I didn't know what to say. I have no problems with Tom Sanneval anymore. What's water in the bridge? I don't like to hold grudges. What he did was wrong obviously but I think he's paid the price. I think he's moved on. I think everybody's moved on. I think we need to kind of just sweep this under the rug now. I think it's just let it go. So I kind of was okay with it. I think there's some people there that weren't okay with it but he wasn't there very long. He came towards the end of the night but and say it on Roller's

hits. It's a real competitive character towards the end of the night. And St. Anne Roller's hits a whole time. Real competitive. St. Anne Roller's case in character, committed the whole time. Amazing. You know, I don't think he had a drink. Yes, I go, do you want to cocktail? He said he said he goes, I'll have a red bull. I think he said in one of his interviews that he's been sober for since the sensitive.

No, it's sober. It's sober finding out. It's sober, no tobacco as well. And as it's, when you're saying, when someone says sober, does that mean? I think he says I have when someone says sober, is that mean? I think he says I haven't drank. Okay, so that means, but you can have coffee, red bull, cigarettes, that's okay. Well, coffee and red bull, I mean, let's say you're like a Mormon and you can't have

caffeine. Right. Okay, I don't know. It's different things for different people. Well, I think, I mean, a lot of people, you know, vape. Vaping. But the vaping is not with pot, right? Right.

That's just the, to bat, whatever the vaped stuff is. Okay. And then some people, and some people spoke pot, but then I think they would not say sober, then they would just say, I don't drink anymore. It doesn't agree with me. Right, right. I think it's good for you. Doesn't mean they might not enjoy a mushroom or whatever,

but he's not drinking that. I know he's not drinking. Right, right. And he would not drink there. You know, I said, I, he seemed like he was having a decent time. I think I was trying to stay on his roller skates the whole time. But yeah, I was for him. He did not drink there. I said, he seemed like he was having a decent time. I think he was trying to stay on his roller skates the whole time. But yeah, I was really shocked. Bottom line is I was kind of shocked that he showed up.

I was okay with it, but I was just shocked. It's kind of ballsy. Since Ariana's brother was there, I was kind of like, and I called Jeremy the next day. I'm really close to the Ariana's brother. And Ariana was supposed to come, but she was in rehearsal for Dancing Stars. And I go, hey, listen, I just want you to know,

I did invite him personally and I hope you're not mad at me. He's like, no, he wasn't there that long, it didn't bother me. So it was an interesting night. It was a lot of fun though. Like I said, it was just, it was everything that I wanted to be and we're just so excited for it and you and I. So you had the DJ.

So what, yeah. So like you walk in, what I love, it's like all the TV is like to watch games and stuff. Yeah. And it's a basketball world. So you got a little bit. So you got a little bit. So you got a little bit. So you got a little bit.

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So you got a little bit. So you got a little bit. So you got a little bit. So you got a little bit. But I got some of the food and I thought it was very good. It's good, right? The food is delicious. I had the truffle fries so good. Right, am I kidding? I had a bar of kitchen pizza. That's delicious. The muscles are really good. The clams are really good. No.

The sauces are amazing. The flatbreads, Britney's beer cheese is finally there. Oh, yes. Mammoth's beer cheese is there. We are going to start selling it this week. So now you can post-made it and get it this week. We're just trying to figure all that. But we're finally.

Well, for Thanksgiving, that's a good Thanksgiving. I'm giving me get that warm pretzel with the beer cheese and you're watching football and you've got a beer. I mean, it's just there's anything better. It's just it's just great. So yeah, so this weekend went off. It went off perfectly. I was really, really excited. Good. Yeah. Good. Okay, let's did you hear about Doreet and PK?K.? Real ass was at Beverly Hills premiered this Wednesday. And it was a juicy one. Because as you know, Kyle and Mauricio, Mauricio is on dancing with the stars going up against your girl Ariana.

By the way, can we just say how good Ariana is doing? She glides on that floor. I mean, I'm not surprised that she would do this well. But I'm not surprised she would do this well, because I felt like she was going to have talent for it, but she's not like a professional dancer. No, but she looks like it. Yeah, she really does. She's doing so well. I mean, I was just, I talked to a boyfriend a lot.

I guess she should be committed, like, so, yeah. And she is. I mean, she says a lot of work. It is a lot of work. And I was talking to her ex-boyfriend. I'm like, God, she is just so, I don't take this wrong. I didn't notice her.

She's so elegant and beautiful on that floor. She just, it's so, so,. And I was talking to her ex-boyfriend. I'm like, God, she is just so, I don't take this wrong. I didn't notice her. She's so elegant and beautiful on that floor. She just, it's like she should be a, I don't know, a dancer. Maybe she should quit reality and be the stranger with the stars.

I mean, how many people are left? She's probably gonna. How many people are left? I haven't, I only watch it the next day. I get I watch it and then everyone posts the stuff. So, I don't have the patience. Well, first of all, we just skip over to Mariso. So Mariso, this is Maricio's partner.

Can I have any gara? No. No, that's his partner. Oh, and this later. What do you mean his partner? His partner? He's dancing. No, dancing.

Sorry, okay. But there are rumors that they are dating. Okay, because paparazzi caught them at dinner and walking across the street holding hands. No. Yes. So then they street holding hands. No. Yes. So then they did a video. Okay. And they said, nothing's going on between us.

Okay. But we were just recapping the night or whatever, the dance that we practiced. And in recapping and I just grabbed her hand. Do you think Brittany would be mad at me if I was on Dancing Stars and I grabbed the dancers' hand? Not on the show. This is after the show, so you have to punch.

You're just re-capping. You're punching out, right? You're not working anymore. You're not an actor. So now you're having dinner and you're talking to me. Well, first of all, I do matter you. Okay. Let's flip the switch here.

Would you be mad at your husband if he was on? And he's going, hey, honey, I'm going to go to dinner after Dancing with Stars, all the cast's going to go out. And meanwhile, they're crossing, she's holding hands. I would be a little first. Well, you know, we When we we do hold hands, but only kind of like When we're like walk the casino going to dinner going to stuff it then we will hold hands He's not a lot of hold hands. No way. So I'm like what do you like? I don't think that's like that's like really intimate That's really showing like and like know, even those little body language

things that people do being overly. Especially when you're in the limelight, you're a public figure. Okay, it's not like you're just random people that are doing it, whatever. You're in the public eye. You know people are watching, unless you want people to see this.

So Kyle, then they said Kyle removed all of her support of him on her Instagram. I feel like this is just for show. So then she said the one thing that bothered me on Watch屡on's live is she's like, because you know, people have speculated whether she's having a romantic relationship with this lesbian country singer named Morgan Wade. Saw that video. And she said, I've been very close to all my girlfriends.

I really think it's just that Morgan has tattoos. But I'm like, but also she's a lesbian. And then someone's like, is she out? I'm like, I don't know, but I know her former girlfriend is spoken about being her former girlfriend. So whatever she's been with women. And I'm like, but you are dressing like her and you guys are hanging out all the time, but you're also doing a documentary or a better life.

And then you also did a music video where you're like eating fruit with her in a bath together. It was very sexual. It was a sexual video. And they're like, oh, we're just having fun with it. And she said that she was the one that initiated the separation.

They live in the same house. Okay. Which I can understand. So they're separated. She gave him the master. She gave him the master. That's gotta be awkward. No, are they just still friends or still platonic, right?

Because they have family. Now the rumors are that they've been separated for a while and that they are able to date other people. So why are they living the same house? Isn't that a little bit? I just think there's just, I think when people are not ready to end it, cause they're in marriage so long, and they kind of maybe don't hate each other.

Right. And it's like, like I was talking about this with Luan on the show, I had Luan on. And I do think there's a lot of people being married for a long time. I think there's a lot of people throughout history and even now, where you get to a place and you're like,

and you have a certain amount of assets and children and businesses. And you're like, look, I don't really want to fuck you anymore, but honestly, I don't care if you fuck someone else. We can still hang. I don't want to split up everything. Maybe we'll come back together, go do your thing. I'm gonna do mine.

Like, I just, so I just met this woman a little while ago and she was doing that. And now they are back together. They have three kids, they're very wealthy. She went to the house in LA. He did his thing in Miami. And now they're like good again. Nobody wanted to get divorced.

No one, they both knew they weren't gonna find better. Like as a spout. But they just needed 10. He wasn't looking to find a 25 year old and have to start a whole new baby life at 55. You know, he was like, I don't want that. But like. Sometimes a timeout is

for some people. Okay. Not for me. But it could be more nor what it is is it's fine. But then when you're on a show and everyone then chimes in. Yes. I think it's harder for the two people that may have had this agreement. Right. To stick with the agreement without getting hurt. Yeah. Because you're getting a million voices in. And that's what's going on with Tom and Ariana too, I think that's exactly the same. Because it just doesn't make sense financially for them to move out.

Because they have such an incredible interest right on that house. And I just saw an article saying, unfortunately, this is like the worst time to buy a house. It's the worst time. It's the worst time. It's better to rent. It's better just to rent or just stay where you are right now

and figure it out. And just financially just doesn't make sense. Yeah, I mean, if they're gonna be losing hundreds of thousands of dollars instead of waiting, you know, until whatever spring, then and it's okay with them, I don't know, it's not our, it's like, that is an art. I mean, it is our business because we talk about it,

but it's like it's not, you know? So anyway, we don't, no one knows if they believe it. As you know, like dancing, lots of times romance has started between the dancing with the stars partner and they did a very sexual dance. It was contemporary, and they basically ended up scissoring.

I don't know if that was an ode to Kyle and Morgan, but it was like, she threw him down and then she laid on top and that's how they ended. And it was good. He's really improved. He was really bad at the beginning. So he's gotten a lot better. Oh wow.

And so he's going for it. Meanwhile, he's had this awful lawsuit happen for years. This saga over the $70 million Malibu real estate thing. And it's been going on for a really long time in LA Times where it's this whole thing. Basically, he sold a house. He had a listing and then he represented the buyer. It's very confusing. Let me just read it to you. Basically, this is it. So, he's facing a lawsuit related to the sale of this Malibu mansion, which was featured on the show. They had like a 20s party there. The mansion was initially owned by this person named Karen,

and it was later sold to the son of the president of some country. He's like a dictator's son. He was accused of purchasing the estate with the proceeds from corrupt practices because the dictator's son, and Mauricio, was then selected as the seller, and he sold the mansion to Mauricio, who later flipped it for $69 million. So the person is saying why a year later. So the person is saying why was it sold for $33 million?

And then a year later it was for $69, wasn't it maybe always worth $69 million? Right. So was he being completely unbiased because he was involved in this? So they said he claimed that Mauricio had not revealed the higher verbal offer and Initiated the lawsuit so that is it's a wrongdoing in the sale. They're suing him for a wrongdoing and that

She's suing for lost funds So what's gonna happen is he's just drowning in lawyer fees or I probably I probably did not completely say this correctly It's just confusing. They're judge, they're basically his credibility as a ethical realtor is what is the real question here. I guess the real question is, does he need to be on House of villains next season? Let's talk about House of villains for a minute. Does he need to be on House of villains?

I mean, I don't know, this stuff is, you know, this is why I was a realtor for many years. And you always, you know, you make more money if you have both ends, meaning I had the listing and I brought the buyer. But it always was a slippery slope where someone could then later say, how do I know that someone else didn't couldn't have paid more? Right. So honest, when I'd have that situation, I would bring another realtor from my company. And I'd be like, I want you to work with so and so that you can have, so there can be equal negotiation. I'm gonna negotiate for my seller.

And I want you to have this person, so you feel that you've been represented right. And then between the realtor is, you worked out something, so there's a little bit of savings or whatever. But, you know, but then in the olden days, it would work out because you would tell the person, if I have both ends, you only have to pay me four percent.

Right. Because I'm gonna make so much for money because I have both ends. But then there's always that thought that the seller's like, or the buyer is like, I think you worked harder for the seller than me. So that is why and that is kind of the way I understand this somewhat worked out.

Is he sort of was involved with both ends? Okay, okay. And that is where it gets tricky. So he still could win, right? You know, because it's not what he did was not like necessarily illegal, but it's like, it's just kind of shady with a dictator's son and this kind of amount of money and then

a year later, it's like twice the price and that's all this. But I mean, I'm a little bit hearsay-ish because like how do you control that? I mean, it's millions and millions of dollars, but so he's dealing with that. Meanwhile, Doreet and PK, it was announced during the airing of the episode that they have been living separately. The news came out that they were living separately. She said on the show that they've been struggling since the break-in. Ever since her house has been broken into, she struggled with PTSD.

And then she got robbed again when she, a couple months later from broken into, she struggled with PTSD. And then she got robbed again. When she, a couple months later over Christmas, she got like $10,000 from the bank, put it in her purse to probably tip people or whatever by Christmas presents. And she left it in a shopping cart. You just get $10,000 on and put it in your purse for Christmas presents.

I mean, I don't. I don't. But I do, I do grab, I, you know, we do do the cat. We do do the cash thing, you know, during the holidays to give like more to the people that are, you know, yeah, I guess you're right. I, you know, this I grew up definitely on. I'm just going to grab 10 grand.

We'll quick get Christmas gifts. So she turned around and her purse was gone. Wow. And they said it's the same person. No, they don't, they don't know if the same person, but they check the security and they said, you were being followed by three men. So then that put her in a tailspin and she felt like he was in England all the time

and he was not supportive. So she says that on the show. And then, but they spring it on Teddy and Kyle during, watch what happens live and with a collar. And they're like, how do you feel about doing separated? And they're like, what do you mean? That's out? They're like, how do you feel about doing separated and they're like, what do you mean? That's out.

They're like, yeah, the news just dropped now. So if you're not, I mean, if we're supposed to believe that like Bravo didn't know that this news was eminent and said, drop it on Wednesday or the people thought, drop it on Wednesday. And then we're going to have them, it'd be sprung on Kyle and Dreet who clearly knew that they were separating. They sent went to dinner and said, they said, oh, the report was that he's been living

in like some Beverly Hills hotel. They went out to dinner this weekend and acted all lovey-dubby and said, we're not separated. But that we just have had a tough few years. Years is kind of a lot. That's a long time. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if I could take it, but that long.

And that it resorts to say, she says, as said, I'm just not like in love with him anymore. She's just a lover. Also, they said he's 56. I mean, shocked that he's only 56. I just thought he was older. That's that's kind of bitch, what they would say. Well, he looks okay there. Yeah, I'm sorry. Let's get into house. I'm kind of surprised because they were like really intradably. Okay, what do you think about? Tell. Let's get into Housewives. I'm kind of surprised because they were like really interested. Okay, what do you think about? Tell me what you think about Housewives.

Tell me. Housewives, I mean, I watched a little bit of it. I mean, I'm not like, I don't get to invest in it because then I start watching it, then I get hooked. But I don't get really invested in too much of it anymore unless it's a housewife, unless it's on Balves Lisa or rumors about Lisa, then I'll, you know,

Lisa Vanderpump. Lisa Vanderpump, but I don't really get invested in too much because it's, what can you share with us about your future in reality TV? So you're on the villains. Yes, so house of villains, obviously, I got voted off last week.

But I can tell you this. How did you feel? How did you feel? Well, I mean, I was okay. You know, that was fine with it. Doesn't matter if I'm there for one day or 30 days. You could, you could, I paid it. You would, you would the same amount unless you win, right?

Yeah, yeah, unless you win. Okay, okay. And then you win you at a 200,000 bonus. You know, I was kind of a little bit bombed and I was like a little, obviously, I don't know if you saw in New York, I'm like me and me cry and I've never in my life. I mean, she literally called me a demon.

I don't know if you saw that episode. No, tell me. She called me a demon and I'm like, I was so taken back, I haven't even had, call that by my ex girlfriends. Like a demon? I'm like, you don't even know me that. Well, how are you calling me a demon? And then I was like, I took so taken back. I haven't even called that by my ex girlfriends. Like a demon? I'm like, you don't even know me that well. How are you calling me a demon?

And then I was like, I took a little bit of offense to it and then I kind of did my research on her a little bit. And I'm like, that's kind of her stick. She goes after everybody this girl. And I was just taken back by it and I was like, I was hurt. But then NBC kind of got a hold of me. Like, okay, you can kind of tease the fact that you're coming back to the show.

I think maybe somewhere down the line, they kind of were were like maybe we shouldn't have got rid of him so fast You know, I had so many House located She's in Sherman Oaks and how many days and it was like an old I felt like we're in What's the movie? I know it didn't look that crazy No, it was like an old like an, like almost like an old Middle Eastern mansion, you know, with statues everywhere. And it was like used for reality shows, basically.

Okay, they always go to there. It was a crazy house, you know, cameras 24-7, no doors on anything. It was just, and I had roommates, I had Omarosa as one roommate, and I had Enfisa from 90-day fiancee as my other roommate. I am allowed sleeper.

I kind of took myself out of that situation real quick because I was just like, I feel bad for these girls, and I'm a married man. I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna go downstairs and sleep on the couch. I know I snore. I drive my wife crazy with it. I'm gonna save myself to headache

and be possible early elimination. But I just going down there and let these women have their room. Okay. But I love Omarosa, she's awesome. Again, a lot of these people around the show, I didn't know. Yeah. I didn't watch a lot of them, we're on reality TV when I was younger. Yeah.

We don't really wasn't watching much TV back then. So I kind of did my research. We got our phones from 12 o'clock at night till whenever we woke up in the morning, which is usually around seven or eight. So that's when everybody got their phones for take care of emails, whatever, because everybody's in reality, if everybody has projects, so they allow us to have our phones. I didn't know who anybody was. So I'm at night researching everybody

who New York is what made everybody a villain, you know, because I didn't know what made New York a villain or Omro So or Infiso or Tunisha or whatever. So I'm researching, I'm like, oh, oh, so that's how I did my research. But that's also how people did their research on me. So they would come out and I got kind of got looked at. I had a conversation which they, I don't think they edited it wrong. It just, it made me look out to be really conceded and cocky. So I had a conversation I woke up one morning with the guy named Shake who was on Love is Blind, I think. Anyway, he's coming down.

He's kind of like the new guy on the show. I consider him to be like that guy that kind of want a show to be on with so much celebrities. I don't like him at all. Didn't like him. He did not belong there. He was just, he was not a legend.

He's not an icon. He seems like a guy who won a prize to be on a show with a bunch of celebrities. That's basically what I think of that guy. Anyway, so I sat down with him. He's kind of like, how do you monetize this? Like, how do you, you know, I just got on the show, like, I wanna get brand deals, I wanna keep this going,

I wanna make money. So I kind of was giving him my playbook a little bit. And it came off as where I was kind of bragging a little bit. And I wasn't trying to brag at all. I was trying to give him my playbook. I'm like, if it was me on the other side, I would be like, wow, thank you so much for this free information.

How to get brand deals. Is that the headline that I've read about about how much you made and how much Brittany made? Oh, yeah. So I didn't, I kind of forgot that the cameras were there. And I was kind of just saying, listen, man, this is how you can do it. Now, I've been on the show for a decade, right? If this didn't just happen for me overnight, we had to build this empire that we have.

We had to build these deals and all this, but this is how you do it. You find, you know, a good manager, you know, you outreach to these brands. I was just trying to give them my playbook so he didn't make any mistakes because I was just thought, okay, he's a nice guy. Again, we're in the house of villains. I just, I should have known he was gonna use it against me.

And he did, but it's no secret to know what anybody makes nowadays. If you wanna, you Google anybody, you can see what their network is. Right. So I wasn't trying to brag, my name means, but I know it came off that way, but I was just trying to be a nice guy,

to try to help him out. And sure enough, I caught him talking about me upstairs, about he doesn't need this, he doesn't need that. I'm like, you're shagged, yeah, right, I do. It's expensive, it's how to live in California. So the he then used it like you don't need the two high brands, so let's get rid of him. Yeah, all he does is talk about his beautiful wife.

I'm like, I think that's, you're putting me down by talking about my beautiful wife, you're an idiot. You're complete idiot. So, you know, so it kind of, that kind of shot me in the foot right there. And, you know, it was just, I was in a house. I've never been on a show either, a contestant type show.

I'm on a docuseries, right? Where you can't go home. Where you can't go home. How many nights were you there? I was there, I think five nights. And then, like I said, I'm allowed to say it, the network call, and so you can't go. So how many nights were you there? I was there, I think five nights. And then, like I said, I'm allowed to say it, the network call, and so you can say, I do come back. So wait, five nights that you slept on a couch?

I did, I did. How uncomfortable? It was okay. I was like, I said, I'm a very easygoing guy. I don't complain. I just felt bad for these girls. I'm not always asleep, so yeah. Oh, I am too, I am too, but I was just like, you know what?

I don't want these girls to be mad at me. I'm in a house. I'm in a house with absolute legends, icon reality stars, Tanisha, Omarosa. I love New York. They are such powerful, strong women and they can kill you with words. They are so good.

Like I was, I've been really good friends with Johnny Banana, who's on MTV. Right. And him and I were just kind of like, we were just sitting around, I'm like, I do not want to go to war against these women. They are so good. I'm a very stock fighter.

I'm like, well, FU, listen to that. I'm very stock. These girls are like, I'll take your firstborn. I will feed them to the wolves. Like, they are just, we'll go after you. And like, I mean, she called me a demon. I was just kind of like, in tears. I was like, oh my God, I've said three words to you.

How do you, how am I a demon? She's like, I know you, you have a black heart. Black hearts. I was just like, and then I, like I said, I got into my head about it. I was feeling, and then at the premiere party, we had the premiere party at Isabelle, and I came up to her. I go, did I do something wrong? She's like, no, honey, that's just my thing. That's who I am. That's how people know me. I go after people and I go after their character. I don't know you from Adam. You seem like a lovely person, but this part of the game. And I'm like, you know what? You're right. I was out of my element, I didn't do my research,

I didn't do my homework, you girls are just so amazing at what you do, I did not belong there, and that's kind of where I ended up. Well, the show's doing well, so it'll definitely come down. Yeah, I mean, it's really helping the network, I know the network seems like they were in a little bit of trouble, so they were using the show as kind of like a springboard back, so I hope it does really well.

Like I said, I was so fortunate at NBC and, you know, reached out to me and said, hey, Jack, would you be interested in this? Cause this is coming out of COVID. And I was just kind of starting to get my life back together again. And this is the first project that I did. And it was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun.

And can you talk about any other stuff that you're doing? I can't. I can't. I want to. And I think it's one of those things that I think it's out there. Yeah, it is kind of out there, so I don't want to stop it. I know, I can't really talk about it. They're just kind of, you know, weird out about it and seeing anything, but let's not get you in trouble.

I don't want to get in trouble, but I think everybody can guess what's going on. So this weekend, I turned on Bravo, and they were doing Vanderpump rules like the first season, like Friday morning, I think. Oh, the first, oh yeah, episode season, this Friday morning I think. Oh, the first, oh yeah, episode one, they started from the beginning. I mean, it would be.

Oh, because, oh yeah, it's the end. I don't know, just sometimes starts that way. Yeah. Why? Well, because they just got done. They're just, they're a permanate. No, they haven't had a new premiere date, but I'm assuming it's coming up or it's coming soon.

I don't know, they don't give us the dates for any of this stuff. But my question is, I'm assuming it's so, that's why they're starting. I mean, you don't look that different. A lot of the girls look very different, like the makeup and stuff. Like, she still looks just as young, but like she looks much prettier now because she's got like better style and everything. She's like these like paint, like these eyelashes. Like she just the outfit. She was all about the sports. Yeah, the outfits were like dork. Yeah.

So, but then of course, you're with Stasi in it and everything. Like at your apartments and do you ever like, if you're just flickering around and you see like old ones. Yeah. Do you, is it fun to watch? Is it hard to watch? I can't imagine of all of a sudden I could see myself with like a former boyfriend,

walking around in 1992. Like what would that be like? It's so funny, Brittany and I literally just watched our wedding episode last week. We had a little fun together. So let's say a home and have a couple cocktails and they were playing some car games and let's watch our wedding.

And we just watched our wedding and then we started diving with some other episodes. We got a little bit of encouragement. We just went on the peacock and went off. Yeah. We just kind of started watching, scrolling through things. And it was interesting. No, we can laugh at it now.

I mean, we've come a long way. Yeah. If you can't laugh at this by this point, I think we've gone a lot through a lot harder things. So. No, I think you could laugh at it. I just wonder if it's like, like I wonder if for some people,

it's really fun. I don't remember other people, it's hard. I don't remember my life before my son. I don't remember my life even before Brittany and I met. It was just so long ago and I think these are just relationships that you go through that. Unfortunately, for most of them, I've remained friends with everybody. We can look past and we can laugh and be like,

oh, that was just a part of our lives. I really didn't burn too many bridges. And I've repaired the ones that I did burn. So, yeah, I can look back now and it laughed. But I'm like, it was a lot of fun. It was a part of my life. You know, I don't really have too many regrets in it. But, yeah, we can look back now for the most part.

Yeah. Yeah, Brittany's been watching House of villains and she's loving it. She loves it. She thinks it's hilarious. She goes, I can't believe how much you didn't talk because I was so intimidated on that show And I didn't say much because I was so scared. I mean like I said these people were so scary

And I mean yeah, a good way. They're just so good. I felt like I took a master class in reality It was that you have any suggestions of people that would do well for second season I think Tom Santava would do really well on that. I think he would what happened with him on the The special forces or whatever? Is he still on it? Is that airing? I don't know what's airing. I don't know.

I don't know. That is something like- He looks like they go after him quite a bit from the highlights. I mean, I saw him kind of crying about it. When is he not crying? Well, he's crying saying that people made $200,000 on merch off of it. That's the number that he threw out because I think

that's the number that Lala said she made off of the Darryl sweatshirts. I think there's a lot more than that. There is a lot more than that, but I think that's the number that got thrown around because it was like, basically, that it was a down payment and then people did the math on the house and did the math payment. And that's what I owe my mom right now, so that could have helped. Right, exactly. I thought the house did the bell payment. And that's what I owe my mom right now so I thought that could have were helped. Okay. Right, exactly.

But I mean, you know, I think his shows do well. People go to the shows. Do you have, I don't follow. Do they go? Yeah. Can they go to see it? Do they go because they're entertained? Do they go just to see what's going on?

I think the same reason before the scandal, I think people went the same reason they go to Luan. But he has to bet. So from show. I see he Venmo's everybody that goes to the band like a thousand dollars So I that's got to be stressful. So he's got to pay all these people. How does a nine person band? Okay? You're not you're a garage man Yeah, okay. How does a nine person band travel the US Hotels you got to have the gear people, setting all that, hotels, food, just everything else, and then make a profit on top of that.

Like how, they can't be getting paid that much. You're not like- You can, that's the thing, that's right. I wanna know, I wanna know what's the breakdown is. If we can find out some what the breakdown is of these concerts that he has, because it costs a lot of money to do these. I know from even just doing, listen to Stasi, what she does her tours and all these podcast tours, there's not a lot of margin there.

You know, by the time you pay everybody out, so I'm just curious, is it more about just doing the bank as you enjoy it or is there money to be made in something like this? Cause like I said, you're not a big band. You're not food fighters, okay? You're Tom Sanival and the whatever you guys call each other. I mean, I think they all, I think they all have a blast

doing it. I think he loves doing it. But no, for someone who's traveled, I know how these things work, which is why as a stand up, I do do well. Because it's me and a fucking Mike. But you're a lot, but you're self. You're not thinking about it. And even when I have a couple guests come to either do stand up with me,

or do, like I've got Brandon and Julie being my guest on the live juicy scoop. But, you know, yeah, it's the, you've got to cover their flight and their hotel and pay them for their appearance, but still that it'll be worth it. Right. But for him, no, I think hopefully he's not losing money

on it because I don't want to see anyone losing money, but I think it's probably breaking even. But they, because you imagine paying nine people, see if you had a nine person, yeah. So you pay them all out and their food and their hotels and the guys here. Flight travel gas. I just I'm just in my head. I'm just curious.

So I mean, I think he's probably figuring that out next to her. Like how do we do that? You know, even like with Luan, when she first started doing her thing, she had more people on stage with her. And then you realize, okay, you know what? How can I make it small? So he might be like, how many people do I really need to get like the songs done? Yeah.

Ken people, you know, and see what it's worth it or he might be like, all right, I did it. Right. I did it. Yeah. And now like, what's my next thing? Because, or maybe I'll just do it in L.A. or just do it in Irvine. Yeah. You know what I mean? If I don't, if we don't have to get on a plane, that's some big difference, especially if you don't have to pay for a hotel.

But you know, it's the same thing. I think people kind of have fun just going and say I went. You know, to watch. So you're gonna be doing live podcasts at Jackson's, by the way, I'm excited to start doing stuff like that. Yeah, you should. Sunday where we do like bloody marioids and mimosas and girls can come in and listen to like, she and Lala Brittany or whoever wants to come and do a podcast about your

girls or whatever. I think it'd be a fun idea. I think we're going to do that. Absolutely, you should totally. Bravo is reportingly reported. Supposedly it's from Bravo Housewives is, you know, so this is just a rumor. This is not officially Bravo. But Bravo reportedly considering returns for Vicki, Alexis, and Gretchen. So these are all former OC girls. I was cut out of this picture. I was in this picture as well. So when Bravo needs the return of the icons, and I have the picture somewhere, and I was added, I think.

Oh, really? And it was us too. And it is sliced together. Yeah. What Bravo really needs the return or something like that? Yeah. How do you feel about return people? I love it. I love it too. I Bravo really needs the return or something like that? Yeah. How do you feel about return people? I love it.

I love it too. I think it's good for sometimes to cut ties and need a break. Like me, I needed that break. When I left, I needed it. Like for my mental, you know, well-being for- But when it happened to recharge the batteries. Were you freaked out and devastated? No.

Brittany was. I wasn't. No, I was like, I needed the break. She was just kind of like, oh man, you know, like, I'm not sure if I'm ready for it to needed the break. She was just kinda like, oh man, I'm not sure if I'm ready for it to be over. How did they tell you, what did they say? We had a conversation with the network between my team and the network

and kind of discuss where things were going, where they were headed. My mind was not in a good place at that time. I was just kind of just beat defeated mentally. I've taken a beating on that show. I've taken a huge beating. I'm really strong and I have thick skin, but I took a beating.

So it was okay for me to step away for a little bit, but we left on great terms. I love NBC, I love it. So they said it like that. They said we just want to put you on the ball. I was looking back to it. I wasn't looped in with the Stasi Kristen thing that I had nothing to do with me.

Everybody thinks that, but then nothing to do with me. It just so happens that it happened at the all the same time. Got it. But no, I kept such a great relationship. When that happened, did you get with them and did anybody like, was there any like weird like commiseration or anything that it all happened the same year and also happened at like such a, like I said, the same time.

Well, it was the same time of the- It was the same time of the- He got fired. He got fired. Well, first of all, if I did, I would, NBC wouldn't be calling me to do house abilons. I wouldn't, I've done what watch me have his life like three times in the last four months. So if I got fired, I wouldn't be doing any of this kind of stuff. So that's that to be very very clear and I'm like I was never it was just a mutual agreement And that's just how it how it went and it made a lot of sense. It wasn't a good buy It was like just we're gonna take a pause and now after two years

Like I said, house of villains NBC's called me up, are you ready to come back? And now we're working towards other projects, and I'm just super excited, but no, I have a great relationship with them. They've been so good to me, no ill will, but I love the fact that they're returning, because these are icons of reality TV, of Bravo, and I think they need to be back.

They said, what do you think? I would love for them to all come back. Absolutely, they were like I said, that's when I was watching when they were. And Kelly Dodd too, like bring them all back. Yeah. And they all have new stories. And they have history with each other

that has happened in the last couple years because of you said this on a podcast and you said that. Right. So there's a lot to talk about. Where are we? Like where are we in it? And like let's have some fun with it. And I think it's good not just to do it with OGs,

it's good to go with everybody. Kind of let some people sit out, let some stuff brew a little bit, get recharge the batteries, then come back later and be like okay, we have a new outlook. Like me, I have a brand new outlook. So I took a piece of humble pie, I needed it. And I just now I look at things a lot differently.

I'm now a father, I'm now married. I look at things a lot differently now and I think it's goes the same for everybody. I think you just need to sit out for a little while, whether it's a month, six months, whatever it may be, recharge the batteries, maybe do some other things, podcasts, other shows, talk shows,

then okay, circle back and be like, okay, I'm ready to come back. Now I see things differently, and I think I'm a good asset to the show. Perfect, I love that. Here's my son, look at the shirt. I'm wearing your shirt, 21 last time. I love that.

Because there is a story about- I better be at the bar. Yeah, there's my son. I'm wearing your shirt, turned 21 last night. I love that. Because there is a story about how you better be at the bar. Yeah, there's a story. I, this is a picture of this, because there's a story about a woman who successfully got kicked out her two 40 year old sons. Italian mom,

I saw that. When's court case to a Victor two adult sons in their 40s. And a Drake was here, because we celebrate his birthday yesterday. He goes back to ASU tomorrow. But and I was helping him. He was helping him get the photos for this. And he goes, there's not a photo of this.

And I go, is there one of you in Brandon? Like, let it just be me. But yes. It's an old school. It's an old school. It's not old school. Step brothers. Yes.

I love it. Well, that's about a day. But they said, according to CBS News report last month, about 45% of people between the ages of 18 and 29 in the US reside at home with their families, the largest number since the 1940s. So then I was like, well, 18, come on. So then Drake looked it up 25.

So these are the climate that we're in. Oh, I know. So there is nothing, I don't want my kids to ever leave. A, A, B, nobody can afford it. No, and I have a lot of people who can't afford to go to college and live on campus. They'll go to the, and I will say, one of the great things that California does is they do a really good job at doing the community college going into the UCs. If you do that, so more and more people, like when I was going to school, it was a little bit like, it's totally not like that now. It's totally like Drake is visiting

his two friends at UCLA and they both did the community college. Yeah, they're juniors at UCLA. It makes sense. You save a lot of money. Yeah, but then the day you're still getting the degree. And lots of these kids are not ready. No, it's the first 10 years don't matter anymore. But anyway, I looked it up. It's over 25, it's 15%. Which is still kind of a lot. It is a lot, right? For over 25, it's kind of a lot, but.

I think it's gonna get worse, to be honest. It's gonna be the cost of living. Like I just went, go to get two gallons of milk. It was like $12. Like this is insane. How many kids, how do they afford to do anything? I don't understand. Now you're coming out of college with debt.

I don't understand how the kids, and maybe you can answer this, okay? Because when I was young, we were like coming back from Vegas, Peter and I, and I go, you know, I never did the Vegas thing like my 20s. I did it. I just, I was like, well, how are you going to afford a hotel room and flights? I'm like, we didn't plan it. Yeah. And I see all these kids that have like, you know, the three bachelor at weekends for their

weddings and then like the Coachella. So are they just in credit card debt? Like, are they? Where are they getting their money? Is there just really an element of people that really do come from generation wealth that I just, I'm not aware of? I'm, I'm thinking the same way because I, now I live in the valley. I've been here for four, you know, five years.

I go over to the other side and I see how much rent is over there and I see all the people living there and they're all, like, they're 20 years old. Where are they getting their money? I keep asking that to my these tick tockers, these only fans people showing their feet on film. I guess that's where I get my wife to put her feet on film so we can go to Disney more. I don't know. Only feet only feet or whatever, but where are these kids? How about you just do photos of just your feet at Disneyland? That's just just but right. when you're in a holly, when you see these kids going out to dinner, right? And that's in mind you, they have to eat. They're not just in a rent, they're food,

they're going out to the pendery, and they're going out to the night clubs, they're spending $30 on a drink. Where is the money coming from? There can only be so many TikTokers, only so many only fans. Where is it coming from? I need to know too, because when I was young,

when I was young and we would go to the night clubs like in my early 20s, whatever, and I used to like, you know, be at the bar, somebody buying me a drink. I would try to only buy one drink myself and the rest I'd hope to get, you know, we went out to obviously pay to getting because I've cute enough for that.

And then, but I remember looking and always being hungry, also why I probably was thinner. Always hungry and I was like, one day I'll be able to come to a place like this and actually sit and eat. Like I was, and then I got there, but like I would never splurge on it.

And if we did like a girl's dinner, it was like fucking marmalade. It wasn't, you know. Atizer, yes, I'll share to one or so far. Yeah, it wasn't like a big thing. And like, yeah, I really don't know. I think a lot of people, I think a lot of people that are here do get allowance.

I, I, adults that have some time of trust but allow it to something. Mom and dad's just feeding them cash. Or they still get to keep a credit card or maybe they don't have to pay for their car and gas but they just have to cover like their expenses. I don't know. Like I, I, I, I they just have to cover like their expenses. I don't know. Like I, I, I, I look at these,

because I'm like, I can't afford your lifestyle. Like how do you guys living here? I get just, it's ridiculous to me. Side note, real, anything. Did you see that Wilfer? I went and visited his son at USC in part two. Yeah, I was there that we could, yeah.

You were there. Now would you, would you embarrass your son and go party with him at, is he here for attorney? Okay, I have a very good story for you. So he's at ASU. He's not a fraternity. I did go to his house that he is renting in Phoenix with his friends.

Okay. And I filmed this, I reenacted the scene that Vicki Gulles Gunvelson did back in the day she showed up and they really, the producers definitely surprised the kid. Maybe the kid thought he was being filmed, but he didn't know the mom was going to be there. And she's like, anyway, they party all, if they're out of football weekend, and they put her in her feet up and she does a, a beer thing.

Oh my gosh, really? And so anyway, so I joked about that, but his one friend is an opportunity, and they just had a party at their house, and I'm like, oh god, you guys are gonna be fucking like, kicked out, whatever. So the boy said, I go, oh, too bad you guys don't have a cake so I can't finish doing this reenactment.

And the kid goes, we have parents coming this week, we have parents coming if you want to come to my fraternity house, you can come, you know, to me. And I'm like, no, that's okay. And I go Drake, what he has, Drake said, I'd be so embarrassed if you wanted those parents. That was partying. Because my friend sent me her daughter

to go to the U of A and my friend sent me the barstole video that went viral of some other parents weekend where the dad and the mom and he's like smacking our ass. And that, no, my kids put up a lot with having me as their mom and no, like we had a lovely time, a juicy scoop or got us tickets. We've got to go to a nice eating drinking situation before. We had beautiful tickets in the fancy box area.

Oh, nice. And they were thrilled. And I kept it together. That is not my goal to humiliate. But yeah, I mean, the kid loved it, though. I saw the son on it being interviewed. And he was, that was fine. I think that was really fun. That's different. Also, a dad is different than a mom with boys.

I get it. Yeah. I get it. It's like, you did. And, you know, and he's a guy and he's comedian. It's like, you know, there aren't a lot of, there's, I don't, I have one friend, Tammy Pescatel, her son's 15, but I don't have any other female comedians who have boys my age that has had to, you know. Yeah, do you get along better with other comedians rather than you do with like your other friends? Like do you just, do you gravitate more towards comedians than you do like your normal friends?

Like your girls you go out to wine with. Do you rather hang out? Does that make sense? I really just enjoy them both. Yeah. I really, I have my, I just, they love being around each other. I kind of don't have that thing. Like I'm going to, there is a 60th anniversary of the improv

and they invited me. I'm going to that. I'll be very excited to go to that. But because of being a mom, I never hung out there every night and stuff because I couldn't really do that. And then I because of being a mom, I never like hung out there every night and stuff because I couldn't really do that. And then I have my really good friends from the Chelsea lately.

Days, they come on the shows regularly. We go and celebrate and do dinner and we text and like, we're great. Like that's why the episodes with them do so well too. But then I have my friends, like my sorority sisters, they all came out to my house in Laquita and we had a weekend of the five of us before us. Do you think?

And it was so fun and it was exactly the same. It was like picking up like it was 1995. I feel like comedy in the last maybe six months to a year has gotten really big again with the young people. Do you know? Like I'm like the Matt Wright. Oh yeah, he's great. And my favorite Sebastian Metascoccal.

Oh yeah, I love him Pete Cornell. Well, he's been around forever. But I Metascoccal, and I love him Pete Cornell, he's better off forever. But I feel like it's just, I don't know if it's social media. It's social media is helping a lot. But also there are. I went to Nate, Benescal, so that's great.

Awesome. I mean, it's my generation. They can just start to make fun of the stuff that I now that I deal with. So it's fun. But I feel like comedy's gotten a lot popular. I think it does kind of go in waves where it's popping. Like there was a time where there was like a big dip

like at the end of the 90s where it was just like not happening. Comedy clubs are closing, a blah, blah, blah. And then it started to pop again in like the 2000s. Or in my generation now. Yeah, so where generations are different now because what kids go through now versus what we went through. Yeah.

And I so I think maybe that's what it, maybe I don't know, but I just, I love comedy. I've never gotten, I've never been more in a comedy than I am right now. Good, great. But I've never been like that. Like I follow all my favorite comedians and they're also funny and I relate to all of them.

I've gotten to the point where I'm like my dad now. I relate to everything now that all these comedians are going through. No, I mean, that's the nicest thing is when people will come up to me after show and the women will go, I think we're married to the same man. Like, I think that's what it is.

It's relatable. And that's why comedy really is very subjective. So when a man is like, you know, why do people think this girl's funny? That's okay. Whatever I'm saying doesn't relate to you. I might not see, think a certain guy is that funny, but you might. But the point is, it's subjective. That's why there's lots of them. And you could enjoy,

you could enjoy something that has completely different life than you and have you have nothing in common with them. But the way they tell the story still can be super funny. But most people, their favorite comedians are ones that have a similar point of view on life. Right. Do you think is it a lot harder to do comedy now because the world that we live in, the climate that we live in, is it harder now to do a show? Do you have to really be careful what you say or is it, are we going to the point where comedians can kind of, can they say what they want without getting in trouble or do they have to navigate around certain topics because comedy is supposed to be comedy. You're supposed to be able to make fun of everybody

and it's supposed to be lighthearted. You don't like it in the comments. Well, okay, so Dave Chappelle did a show. Yeah. And an article, now one thing that Dave Chappelle, he started this and I wish I had the means or the way to do this because I would love to do this. But where you go to his show and they give you a package

and they put your phone in it and they steal the package. They hand you the phone, you have possession of your phone. So if it was buzzing and you have a babysitter and that makes you nervous, you go out and you say unlock my phone. And now you can go talk to the babysitter, okay? It's a great thing, but not everybody can afford it, not every club can have it.

The point is so that you're not recording him and that he can work on his act so when he puts it on Netflix, it's fresh. And also if he does it tomorrow, he doesn't want everybody showing the video of the joke that he did. So there is no video of this, but someone said he brought up the problems in the middle east

and this person didn't like what he said. They said, in all these people got up and left. That was the articles because someone put that article out. Then people said, I was there. It was one person that was screamed at him. Then he talked more about it in his way. He's very raw about even this controversial subject. Then they said, when asked for a comment,

he just said, I wasn't there. Well, clearly he was there. It was a show. He's just like, I'm not fucking with it. I'm not defending it. I'm not going to talk about it. Don't go to my show. Exactly.

And then it kind of killed the story. And I thought that was good because it's like, don't, yes. So to answer your question, yes. A lot of it is the fact that everyone can either film you or report on it. And I've had people report on things that have said on this show, report, like bloggers, whatever people say.

And it's like a telephone thing. And then someone's like, yeah, I heard that you did this and said this, totally not true, no evidence of it. And then I'm like, but now if I address this at the top of my show about something that some trolls are saying that I said, then it perpetuates people being like, yes, but, hmm, hmm. And so it's like, you do kind of have to just go,

this is my show. Right, right. And if you don't like it, please listen to another thing or go to another show. Definitely, I always say if you're easily offended or triggered, a comedy club is not for you. Do you have to have one of those signs when you walk in? We might be talking about this, this, you know,

I'm talking about what you're filming. I feel like you need a poster that says, we may be talking about this, this, this, this, this. If you don't like it. There's a great video of Joan Rivers before going on stage where she's like introducing herself, and she's got that, and she goes, this, you know, this, or no, I think she had a guy goes, this, you know, this, or no,

I think she had a guy saying all this, this show might talk about bubble ball, all these subjects. And then she like takes over the mic, and she's like, so if you don't like it, get the fuck out. And then like just go on there. And it's like, I do sometimes think,

there's been times we've talked about it, and I'm like, do I have to say things like, I'm not a professional journalist, I am not a doctor, I'm a comedian with an opinion. Yeah. Like, don't get angry if you listen to me. You may listen to something and you may not agree with it. Like, it is fine.

Right. But in saying that, I'm still doing very, very well. Right. And if people have dropped off, they no longer, it doesn't show anything. You don't really want those people to let it. It doesn't show anything. But do you really want those people anyway?

There is the person that is, their Twitter is blocked by Jax. Yeah. And have you ever met that person? No, I talked to her on social media. I sent her merch and I think she's funny. Here's the thing, I'm not gonna go after, and there's no reason that that's what she wants to do.

Have you ever unblocked her? I have unblocked her. That is, that is. I think she's a nice girl. I think she's. This thing, and there's no reason that that's what she wants to do. Have you ever unblocked her? I have unblocked her. Yes, that is. I think she's a nice girl. I think she's. This thing, but I just, when people say, what do you do? When people say, oh my god, Heather deleted a comment

or blocked me, why do I want to be inundated by you saying, mean shit about me or my guess? Right. Like, yeah, I will delete a comment. I do the same thing. I don't need someone to say something for you to wake up and look at the picture of us tomorrow.

And if I can get to and remove some person with one follow who's a blog saying something nasty about you or me, guess what? I'm fucking deleting it. Yeah, I am blocking it. So maybe you won't bother to do another fake person. Exactly. Like you have enough time in your- Move on.

The people that have enough time in their days to go through people that they've never met before. Yeah. And to go in go and start writing negative things. How much time, this says a lot about who you are as a person. You have that much time in your day. You're not spending with your husband, your family, your kids, or whatever. Cause you can probably not have family.

No, you're sitting behind a keyboard cause you're miserable about something in your life. So you're projecting your own insecurities onto other people, just goes to show you, of course I'm gonna delete that. I get it all the time. Oh, you delete your negative comments. Yeah, of course I do. I don't wanna see that.

Like if you, right, if you had a, you know, a bagel place and you had the ability to remove the bad yelp ones that said that the bagel had mold on it, would you? Yeah, I'm just, I'm gonna keep it on there. Yeah, like,

like this is just, at the people, it just, it just beroffles me and it's just, they just keep finding out with more ways to like go after people and it's just really, just leave people alone. If you don't like it, then don't watch, don't follow. Like, you know, there's so much.

So, so this weekend is Bravo Cod. You guys are gonna be at the Venetian. We're at the Venetian. And. Come see us. I will post you on my Instagram. Okay, so just follow him and he'll let you know where he's gonna be.

Yes. Brittany. Yes. Britney. Yes. Um, baby's not coming, right? No, no, we're going to have the nanny at the house. This is going to be a 24 hour trip for a baby. How old is it all cruise? He is two and a half going on six. He's so cute.

Starting school. He's in the swim school. Uh, we're keeping him busy. In fact, I'm taking him to sky zone right after this and then we're going to the pumpkin patch. Oh my God. I'm just my God. It's just fun. It's just fun stuff now. It's such a perfect day.

I'm at that age where now it's just like, it's fun. I keep taking them and just keeping them busy. I just want to keep them busy. Yeah. Oh my God. And I love them to death. And people keep asking me, is Brittany pregnant? And this and that, I'm going to put that clear right now.

She is not pregnant. Are we going to plan on having more children? Absolutely, but she's not pregnant right now. Well good that she can have a couple cocktails. And Bravo is not making her drink. Yeah, no, no. You're doing her own thing. No, she can have her fun.

She can have her mommy weaken off. And we will see you there and thank you. And everybody go to Jackson studio city. It is a really fun place. Get I suggest. It's very laid back. It's very chill. It's not like your other Vanderpumpers. Nothing against them. They just love what is DJ every night. DJs on Friday

and Saturday. Okay. Friday is Saturday. I think it's a very I love the space where the DJ is. Yes. And I think it is a perfect place for a birthday party. That's right party. Whatever. I like a little of just you want to just have some drinks and some food and like seriously you want to pop to the music and have some fun, it's there, valley parking, it's easy, take it Uber, whatever. You can run out different rooms, you can have your corporate parties there, we got a bunch line up for holiday parties. Oh, yeah.

It's for whatever you need. Yeah, whatever you need. Like I said, yeah, we are in studio city. Yeah, Jack. Where do you buy that cute hat? That merch, we're still trying to figure out, I'm going through hell right now with merch companies. That's like one after another is just collapsing. We were with Fandjoy, had a falling out with them. Now we're with the, I think we're going to a different company,

but I'm working on it. I'm working on it. These merch companies are just... Can you buy the merch at the right time? Yes, you can get it at Jack's right now. The old school way, you have to actually go in and buy. We don't have it online yet. It will happen. Okay. But it's just a pain in the ass right now. Maybe I'll talk to you about that afterwards.

Yes, I will, okay. Because I've got mine, look. I love it. So we made this shirt because someone made... What company are you with? Look, it's the lightning bolt. I love it. Oh my god, oh, to talk so much.

And I always think, I've been wearing your hat so much that I'm like, I hope no one's thinking that it's the lightning bolt like that, Rukkala's or Sin, like, I hope no one's thinking that it's the lightning ball. Like that rock-cow-laser sign. Like, what's Heather's obsessed with jacks? But yeah, I love your hat. Yeah, I'll have to ask you what company you use. Okay, cool. Thank you.

Bye. Thank you. Bye.