Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Jill Zarin’s Ultimate Girl Trip, BravoCon and more

Episode Date: May 10, 2022

Heather interviews Jill Zarin and her daughter Ally Shapiro in their LA hotel. They record another 'What Would Jill Zarin Do?' episode. Ally discusses her "reality mom" Jill and how being on reality TV so young has affected her. Would Ally be interested in a spin-off with housewife offspring? Jill answers questions about what she would do in various housewife scenarios as well as a few pop culture moments. Her answers to a few questions may surprise you! It’s a juicy episode! Enjoy. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts to get exclusive Extra Juicy episodes every Friday and get all episodes of Juicy Scoop, ad-free Or get access to Extra Juicy on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop To bring your brand to life in this podcast, email [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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To the number one tabloid real life podcast Listen in, listen up. Woo, woo, and a McDonald. Juicy scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy scoop. I'm so excited to tell you guys, you can get your tickets now for June 17th at my beautiful winery show.

It's at Heather McDonnell.net. Justin Martindale will be joining me. There are two shows at 530 and 830 and there is a meet and greet available for both of the shows. So get your tickets now. It will sell out. It will be a delight and it'll be really fun. I am wearing this shirt that's a scary island. You probably are wondering why. Why? Because I got it from Jill Zarend. Yes. She and her daughter Allie were in town in LA at the end of last week and I went to her hotel room and we set up the cameras and I had questions for both of them and it was really a great juicy fun interview and now here for more and oh and you can get scary island t-shirts, all of their products they're you go to she's gonna explain it later but you there's a discount a juicy discount

for you at 15% off at Jill and Alley's website of all their cool stuff. But now for a very juicy interview with Jill Zaren and her daughter, Ali Shapiro. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. We are out in the field at the Watt Hotel in the world-famous sunset boulevard with Jill Zaren, who would have thought. And her gorgeous daughter, Ali Shapiro,

welcome back to LA Girls and welcome back to Juicy Scoop. I am so excited to be here. Ali, are you not happy? I'm so excited. And by the way, can I just make a sign note that about two blocks down is the office, the infamous office of selling sunset, the Oppenheimer Group. Oh, interesting. Just what I give you a little fast back for those watching Heather I think Heather should walk in and do a little strut. Oh, yeah, well you know No, I had to tell Louis Vuitton. Oh, I think so. Well, you know, who knows who's really working there? I'm nobody. I've walked by there many times and it's by the way the windows on the outside are black out

Isn't that weird is that weird? Yeah, because they don't probably don't want people like you, like putting your nose up to the window. No, but I don't think it's new. I don't think it's new. I think they've always had black out before they had a show. No, they, listen, they film it. Like they have their filming days. That's why nobody has anything on their computer screen.

Nobody's calling. Like, it's, you know, they film literally in there. Do you think they film in a stage, stage set? No, I think they film in there. Do they block out, yeah, but that day, like, no one else is there. They, they not. Oh, no, I'm sure. They bring other outfits and all of that.

They are the most gorgeous, beautiful. Those people should be on Beverly Hills too. Like, they are so gorgeous. They probably will be. You're Christine. Oh, my God. Can I please talk? She, you know, she said she doesn't have a stylist.

She does it all herself. I believe it She I do too. No, no, she's got this incredible style like I'm so envious of girls like that I really am like I want to follow them for a day and see how they put themselves together What I mean? Yeah, she has a lot of money and she's super skinny. You could have a lot of money in my style That's true. That's true. Well, let's we're gonna do lots of questions for you guys. Allie, what a life you've led. At the age of 14, you were thrust into the limelight. For better and for worse. And I mean, what are the things I loved? And I've talked about this day many of times, is when we were with Gloria and Gloria was very diet conscious and a little critical of how Jill was looking

in her tennis court. Dennis tennis carpet. She still look hard leaving the country club and you're like look, Ali, you know what? That's what my mother was like aren't you lucky I'm not like that and you're like mom you put me on a reality show and sent me to a fat camp when I was 14 years old. That wasn't true, Ali. Kind of true.

It wasn't a fat camp. I went to one of those two. So I also went to a fat camp that was not on TV. Okay, that was true. That was true. In California also, camp California fitness. It was a fun camp. Was it fun?

I'm sorry, not a fat camp, a fitness camp. It was a fun. I'm sorry. Not a fat camp of fitness camp It's a fitness camp to teach you how to work out So you don't have a lifetime of health and fitness and guess what you have a personal trainer every day Because I still have weight issues. Yes. Not because the way issues you like the way I thought you did because you feel good Right. Well, I think you look great. Thank you. You look beautiful Now okay, we have some of the things. Now, someone said, there has been a lot of talking about housewives offspring being

the next generation of housewives. As you see, Gia on real housewives, she's like a substar, right? Yes. I mean, she's 21 years old. She looks gorgeous. She has her attitude with her nails and everything. And so what if there was like a next generation

or maybe they do, ooh, hello. I know I got the same thing. You guys should do. I know, I thought. A week together, on a trip, girls trip with the offspring of the different franchises. I thought that they should be the first to have fun. That would be so.

They could be future hours. They could have many series. But a little like a little sticker tone and kind of a thing. So it would be like you who else could be. You and Avery for sure. For sure. Okay, then I don't think other franchises. Lohan's kids aren't going to do them.

The OC kids they feel like are big. Oh see, how would Manzzo's kids might do it? The boys. Oh yeah, you need to get up for it. Get up for it. It doesn't have to be, oh, you know what? Or do we want all girls? Vicki's kids.

I have to do all. Honestly, it should be all girls. Okay, I'm changing my mind and it should be all girls. I don't know. The daughters and their moms are just the kids. Just the kids do like, I don't know, a three day, maybe just like a three day intensive weekend and of like

In questions and therapist therapist Oh like a VH1 one of those Yes, and like where they show clips and how dramatic was this and we definitely have to have Gina Kino's daughter on there and Kara my car. She's been a couple. And Kara, she's been girl. A couple of the OC people.

I don't know, maybe it's not a great idea. No, I think it would be great. I think you mean, you would be. You would have a lot of HDG and Bella. They're career started on housewives. It's true. Well, no offense, but GG and Bella are not gonna do it. I know that.

Sorry. I'm too good for it too. Yeah. I think it was a few years ago, like out of college, I would be very against it, and now I feel like our whole brand, like everything I do now stems from this world. Right, I love the fact that it came from this world. Yeah, and I think it doesn't look like no-one knows that, and I have to see some people do. Who, who, who's that?

Not you. Well, who? Well, like you just said, like the Gigi Hadid'sg had deeds like wouldn't do it You know what I mean? Well, they wouldn't do because if you're making like 50,000 a day Maybe you don't want to like block off a week. I get to do something. That's not paying that It's not like a snobby thing. It's just like and I don't think they really were like house even though they got they I think they're What about the Lila they were on a lot a lot They got their careers also stop not saying they wouldn't have right and what I think they're starting to lie law they were on a lot They got their careers also stop not saying they wouldn't have right and what I think

He's got a kick start probably a little bit on house Beverly Hills. Okay. Did you read today? Somebody sent me a That was it you who sent me in oh, it's probably patty No, that it's probably not news that Kathy Hilton didn't invite Lisa Rina and Jane, what's her name? Erica Jane, to her birthday party, and they'll never talk again or something like that. Something came out, some stories.

Well, I don't even know how much Kathy Hilton's going to be featured in this season at all, because something bad happened. I don't know what. She's not in the first episode. No. Don't mean to brag, but I can't say it. But no, no, by the way, thanks for sharing.

When is it coming out the first episode? 11. The 11th. Oh, you got it. Yeah, I got it real early. Oh, yes. Oh, it's super juicy. No, I remember when they were filming,

if you go back in your memory, because you have a much better one than I do, she wouldn't sign in the beginning of memory. She wanted more money. Right. So that's why she's not on the beginning. Oh, good point. I forgot about that. Did we go up?

Yeah. You're probably right. So she comes on as soon as she signs. But something happened, right? I'm going to do a couple of what would Jill do. What would Jill do if her friend overly face-tuned all of her pictures on Instagram? Who's pictures?

Did you say anything? Or would you leave her old? Would you say anything? The girl who posted it. Her pictures, not my pictures. You have a good friend who is a post, maybe? That's popular on Instagram, that overly face-tunes her photos. You say anything.S. maybe that's popular on Instagram that overly face tunes her photos

To say anything absolutely and what I did and what have you said to patty No names P.S. P.S. I told to that and she Shoot me like you know, I don't talk about him and move me on. She denied it Actually, it denied it. She said it. We, actually, she didn't deny it. She said it. We remember I parted out. She went to her house. She likes it and she's all over there.

Right. We went to her house and we took a photo and I'm like, oh my god, are you gonna, and please tell me if she made she look like a completely different person. Like her whole smile change. And I'm like, what do you, I go, come on, Patty. What's the deal? And she goes and she goes

She goes I like it. I like it. I like it. She knows the world knows that she I'm gonna say you want and it makes her joyful so whatever I will say though There's a 99% chance that mom sent her that app to use because mom loves those apps too I do not is bad, but she loves them, but she looks great anyway. She's really pretty. She's really pretty in person Great legs good body great body, but that app just like elevates it so okay Is there something that Jill would have changed in her approach to allie? Oh, we could to allie's weight Let's get back to that one. Is there any is there something allie would have wished her mom had changed her said differently. I mean you're fine today but going back. I think we never really had that much of a healthy lifestyle in general like mommy's die coke and ice cream every day including today. I thought it

was frozen yogurt. Yep frozen yogurt went a good day. I think it was a good day. I think it was a good day. I think it was a good day. I think it was a good day. I think it was a good day. I think it was a good day. I think it was a good day. I think it was a good day.

I think it was a good day. I think it was a good day. I think it was a good day. I think it was a good day. like we never were that active or healthy. Why? The best thing I really ever did was to send you to Martha's Vineyard because Allie was forced, I don't wanna say learn, forced if she wanted to survive, to drink all that green juice. Okay, but what?

But that's not Allie, he's healthy because of that. But that's not realistic because I couldn't do it for once for one to year. But for once a year for me to go away to a camp and come back 10 days later, lost 20 pounds in the game of that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

that's what I'm saying, I'm saying like right now. But that's what happened. No, no, but if we went downstairs and'm saying. I'm saying, like, right now. That's what happened. No, no, but if we went downstairs and there was a green juice there, you would have one, like, because you like it. I would never eat that. If you made me go to a camp to, for them to teach me how to do it. Right. So at least I did something like, OK.

Why? I mean, if I can't have a perspective, I try to provide it for you. Right. OK. OK. Thank you. We all do the best we can, right, moms? No, my biggest regret, I will say this, and I've set up a show, my biggest regret as

a mother is that I didn't force my kids to eat better. I went to this parenting class and they were like, you know, it was this weird like, hey, pick your battles. And like, if your child, you know, if your child doesn't like what you're serving dinner, have a drawer of like healthy snacks or whatever, and you say, okay, pick your battles. And like, if your child, you know, if your child doesn't like what you're serving dinner, have a drawer of like healthy snacks or whatever, and you say, okay, you can have that. And so I kind of was like, yeah, I don't want to,

the minute my sons would like, like push it back, I was like, this could be the last down earth, and I don't want to spend it fighting over carrots. You should fight over the carrots. You should do all those things that people say to do, and we're gonna make your own baby food, and you make them eat what you're eating and you cause a baby has to try it like five times and then they like get into it. Well this is that philosophy but I'm gonna give you the other philosophy which is, Al is

a very picky eater. You know she was the kid who would only mac and cheese and all this stuff when she was very very young. I thought she would never eat a vegetable. You know what? She grew up and now on her own, I don't need sushi, she eats sushi, she eats tomatoes. Over, she started to pick things up as she got older. She just kids do. I agree. My kids... Maybe they have a line there, you know? My kids are

like starting to try different things, but... Give me 10. Give me 10. Literally she'll be on the display. That is my biggest regret as a parent. Because she should use them to the Martha's and her detox Center. That's the question. No, I would not send them to the camp. I did send my son to two weeks' Catalina camp, and he didn't have liking it, but it wasn't about food. They let him eat like burgers and stuff.

But he was horrified that he wouldn't get to take his phone with him, and he was so mad. He goes, I'm gonna send you to mom camp. Where all you do is drink wine and chop on your phone. And I'm like, okay. Everyone's like, can we go to the brand? Can we go to the brand in Mom Camp? I can just thought it was such cruel

and usual punishment that I'm gonna. Well, on the East Coast, all chose you're between the ages of eight and 18. Go to camp for eight weeks with no phones. So. Rich kids. Can't be every kid. Not every kid, no.

Not every kid. No, a lot of kids. There are a lot of kids. It's just more common than it is in the West Coast, I know. And that so. Rich kids. Can't be every kid. Not every kid, no, I've no, a lot of kids. There are a lot of kids. It's more common than I is in the West Coast right now. And definitely, yeah. Definitely, yeah. So all the kids don't usually go. No, I would, yeah, definitely. And that's where you get laid, right?

The first time. Well, that's where you learn how to make a bed, but Allison does get in it. Our kids can't. Our kids can't. Allie didn't stay long enough to learn how to make a bed. Okay. What do you think of the second?

What do you think of the second? What do you think of the second? What do you think of the second? You learn how to make a bed. Okay. What do you think it's like, how do you learn how to make a bed? Oh my god, they have inspection. And if you don't pass inspection, you don't get to go to the state camp and get ice cream. And what is this? $5,000 a week and your kid's living on a cot. And he has to, like, it's like, they have to do laundry.

They have to make the wrong bed. That's Bravo series, actual camp. Hello, I want to pitch it. Adults come back to camp. That's my idea. All right. What would you what would Jill Jill what would Jill do if her friend was dating or was engaged to a guy

she thought was bad for her friend? Probably keep my mouth shut. Now the Jill now keeps her mouth shut or has a Jill in the past not kept her mouth shut and realized because of that experience it's better to keep your mouth shut. I don't know. Allison, how have I been? Would you tell someone if you don't like them? I feel like, I don't know. Am I honest? Or do I hold back? It depends on the person. I think it does. If you're not that good of a friend, I hold back. You know, you just like, yeah. But if it is a good friend, like for me,

let's say I'm part of Real Housewives of New Jersey. Okay. And I would just say to Teresa, I would be like, absolutely get married, do all this stuff, but just be very careful with like, combine up and make sure that you have an exit strategy. Yeah, that's your own trouble.

Right. Your business is your money, a post-knop needs to happen, a pre-knop, and then a post-knop needs to happen. All that kind of stuff, because you have four daughters and because you're a business woman yourself, not, I would say the way to not be negative towards you. And I would say that to like any of my friends, even if they were marrying the greatest guy on earth, I'd be like, you're 50 year old woman, you have your own money, you have kids that are depending on inheritance and stuff.

So you know, I don't think so down. I mean, there's so many marriages, you know, celebrities of the ones you hear about with a rush to Vegas and they get married in three months, two months, one month, and then they end in divorce. Just at least be at least date someone a year. Give yourself, I always say you have to have four seasons with someone to really know their ins and outs before you should jump in. You get engaged, but just don't get married until you have four seasons in. I don't remember if you spoke about it or not, but that woman that was on the House of Orange County that married Joe Biden's Oh, yes, oh, yeah, so happy Making it easy. Yeah, it's a divorce right that was terrible what she has said was I

Think she said she yes, she rushed into it and she didn't really know him and I don't think he really Understood what it was gonna be like to suddenly be a father of three little kids. One of them is disabled. One has special needs. And, you know, just to have three little kids is a lot. And so I think she just checked it off as like just a random mistake. How the hell you can make a random mistake? I know.

I mean, what she's going to do. And now Jim Edmonds has announced that he is marrying. She's either wife number four or five. I can't remember if Megan was four or three. But anyway, next wife, she's like close to Megan's age because they were friends. They had a three son. That's how they met.

Oh, what? Yes. She did three sons? She did a three son with Jim and this girl and then this girl came back around or whatever. And now they're madly in love and they're getting married in Italy with all his kids from his three different women.

But I would never with her is that she sniffed out the whole book, book, Cancer Story. Oh my God, she sniffed that out and I thought she was a terrible person when I watched it. And of course in hindsight it was the best thing that that's someone who actually called it, right? She did. She could have kept him out shut, but she thought he was bad for Vicki and tried to get a boyfriend. She thought what time we were hanging out at Shannon Bedouard's house with Vicki and Brooks and my husband Peter was there. And this is before anyone thought he had cancer

and they were dating and nobody disliked him, okay? This was like a long, long time ago. And Peter asked him how old he is and he tells him how old he is. And Peter's like, no way, you're so much older than that. Like, did we have a Peter? Yes. Not an aggressive person at all.

He was like joking, but just really, he was like giving him shit But the guy all did say his 30. No, he said he was like 49 but Peter just thought he looked a lot I was Peter right? No Right Like we're trying to be friendly with these people. Like, what? Anyway, you made the difference. So Peter said something was off though.

Maybe it wasn't his age, but something was off, I guess. Now, Peter didn't think anything was offing. Peter's just couldn't be inappropriate. So there's a case when Megan did, and guess what? No good deed went unpunished. She was the mean girl that season, but she ended up being right. Who would have thought she, I think, yes.

Well, I'm obsessed with any story that's about lying about illness. Okay, what would you do if you were at being right? Who would have thought? Oh, yes. Well, I'm obsessed with any story that's about lying about illness. Okay, what would you do if you're at a dinner? Yes. And you were talking to your friend, you're being aggressive, not aggressive, but you're gonna be in direct. Being myself.

You're being correct. And she got up and she didn't flip the table, but she pushed and smashed all the drinks onto you. On to me. Well, other people got wet. Other people got wet. Well, I don't know if you deserved it, but you were just fighting.

You were just fighting. And she smashed the drinks one spilling all over your boobs. Would you? I'd be in shock. I mean, I don't think I'd get physical because I've never hit anyone. I've never touched anyone in my life. Believe me, I've thought about it, but it's never happens. I'm not that true

In all of your years of being on house. What's the closest you've ever come never? Never what was your favorite Alex McCord? I'm your ugly high school. I can't realize that Have you your women never gotten physical? You guys might be the only franchise that is never gotten physical never Like during the amount of thrown a glass or something like that, but not really physical. Yeah. Oh my God Well, they think grads they classy-ly They fall they fall in on each other. I don't think I mean a Grants of way they certainly have used their words, but that's it, you know, that's true with classy

We're the class with a classy groupicks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me. That's what they say in New York. Have you have any recent run-ins with Ramona since she ignored Gary? What's the latest? Well, latest from that day is, we went to a mutual birthday party in Miami.

Yes. And I knew she was gonna be there and it was the thing to be, you know, ice or ice cream. That's a good expression, right? Either I was going to get ice or ice cream. Meaning she was going to be the cold or, you know, yeah, that's a good, delicious, right? Yeah. Okay.

Ice or ice cream. You know, no. I mean, let's get to it. Okay, go. Yeah. So it was, it was delicious. It was great. And we got up and took a picture together and posted. And I sat at the table, there's about six girls

and I said, I'm sitting across from her and I said, we're gonna have to tell you something. I don't know if you've heard about this yet, but I was on Heather McDonald's show. And I shared with her that you slammed the elevated door and Gary and it wasn't very nice. And told her and she's like doesn't remember it at all exactly the way you said it and I told her what happened and I said you really have to listen to the episode because Heather was spot on that I'm apologizing to

her at the end you're gonna die laughing so I think she knew about it but she said she didn't I think she had heard about it oh really yeah but she wasn't mad or anything that I can't believe the only time I met her was at your event in the Hamptons. And we're like, let's get a photo with all the girls. And you have like girls from the Canada Melbourne. And yeah, you had all the housewives like any yeah. And we were standing around the pool. And that's what happens. And you're like, and then, oh, and then,

you'll get Heather Mcdonald in here too. I said, she's not a very housewife. We saw the housewives and we're both like, who's Heather Mcdonald? Who's Heather Mcdonald? And I think she had heard my, like, heard about you, whatever. And, but you know, I met her,

and then I met her once before. She of course, doesn't remember. When she was with Mario and I was doing that show in the Hamptons and we went on that, we went, like it was like the day after Fourth of July, we went on a big yacht party and she and Mario had gotten back together and were very romantic before the final divorced. And she was like, I'll sell a lot of tickets to your show. I'll get a lot of people to go.

I haven't got a lot of really popular Twitter. And I could actually put a post out there about it. And she was being really nice. But I was like, actually, it's already sold out, but that's very sweet of you to talk about. That was nice. Yeah. And no, no, we're good.

In fact, she texted me this week. And she wanted a new rug for her room, bedroom, in her apartment, in my building, in her building, as she likes to remind me it's her building. And I said, absolutely. You know, she said she'll post, so that's nice. She commented on mom's Instagram saying welcome to my building of three years. Did you have a cheer?

Yeah. Ali, I'll post that. Wait, so Ramona had been in the building for three years? Yes. So mom moved into Ramona's building. Yeah, but Ramona doesn't know is that Gary was there first. Gary was there before. And then Mario came. And into Ramona's building. Ramona doesn't know as that Gary was there first. Gary was there before. And then Mario came.

And then Ramona came. And Gary and Ramona went on a date, right? They do or Gary. They do. And Gary took Ramona out on a blind date. And then I guess they went on another date. Ramona invited Gary to be her date at someone's bar mitzvah. And he went, you know, it's free.

Free pigs in a blanket. So, it doesn't miss a meal. Why did they ever make out or anything? No, he swears, nothing happened. Swears, and she also says nothing happened. And so what did he say? It was just not a love connection.

Just not a love connection. But as mom would say, she could take him. What do you mean she could take him? I say, oh, they can't have him. She can have him. She wants to take him. But no, but you know, she said something very nice. Oh, no, she said she said something very nice about me

on the date, which is that she really loved the relationship of that Bobby and I had, that she was envious of that relationship, because it was after she had left Mario. Yes. And after he did that relationship, because it was after she had left Mario. Yes. And after he did that really, really, really shitty thing to her. Right.

Called getting somebody else pregnant, that kind of thing. Yeah. Wait, but the girl didn't have the baby. No, no, no. And who knows if that was even true? But there was a girl. The whole thing was shitty. She didn't deserve it.

Yes. No matter how bad my relationship was with Ramona, never deserve that. I would never wish that on it. No Now, but you know, they're in a good place now. Remember this memory. This psychic from Morocco. I think we talked about that I forget Did she tell you anything good? the psychic

No, nothing I remember no I mean it was all about her. I mean when she said that your husband's thinking of another woman, it was like, are you kidding me? It is so wild out of the 14 years. I feel like Morocco and scary islands still go down as the best. Most memorable. Most memorable trips, memorable. I think that people talk about.

And I'll have to say, I have a good thing. I'm being like, you came down here. You're hearing my shoes. I'm hearing my shoes. Even though you've a ton makes mistakes. Yeah, she's like, oh, I heard Louis Vuitton.

Even Louis Vuitton makes mistakes, darling. Oh, you went to a Louis Ann's, I came to the red. Did you enjoy it? She was beautiful. You all looked really cute. I always enjoy Louis Ann's cabinet. Yeah.

And not only was I there, I was there, and Theresa was there that night, and I had brought Fager with me, because we had just filled for the ultimate girls trips and stuff and it was phenomenal. The fans love love love Luanne and Luanne loves her fans and Gary and I are with them. Teresa's fiance. Yes, Louis. I have to tell you, I had a great first impression of Louis. You know what I said on the thing is on the show and I said this on my podcast recently, I said, you know, we only saw him being very sweet to her, right?

Having fun with the guys, showing up. And so about who was in there. There's moments when he had to defend himself and I never think and we never saw Kim get heated about defending himself. We saw her get heated, which we've known has been a personality trait of hers for years. So I'm like, it's a little bit of a bummer because there probably was other footage, maybe,

where he was like being kind of more a little more. Well, they got him at the risk, or do they wait for him? He said, let's go. And I'll ask you that. Yeah, but I'm saying that we didn't get to see that much of, like, his personal, like, they've screamed so much on the other guys and how funny they are and how they get along.

Like, they cut it in a way to keep us guessing about him, which I can see why, because there's still a mystery. But I'm sure he is very nice to me. I'm excited to see you. I really had a good time that night. He's very smart. He's extremely successful.

He's very generous. He loves her. They're holding hands. You know, they're engaged now. Like they've been together over the year. You know, and that the fair mones disappear a little bit, you know, even if you're together. They're still holding hands and loving, dovey, it's beautiful. And I don't blame her for being in that love bubble.

I felt part of her bubble. And if somebody came in my bubble, I'd be pissed too. I'll tell you, I would. Are you in a love bubble? A what? A love bubble? Harry? Yes.

Yes, I am. Beautiful. I am. As much as I hate him every day. What would Jill Zarendo, if she found out her fellow castmate was a cult leader who enticed members of her church to remorage their houses, to contribute to the cause?

She would join it. That was on the show. She lost it. That was real housemates. Mom, love is called. You love a good cult. Well, I don't want to be part of one, but I am obsessed with them.

There you go. Have you ever had a friend that you felt was getting into something that has a right? I had a friend who was in who was in one. Which one? The famous one in California. Scientology? Oh, it didn't I meet this woman?

It was a name name, no names. I can't remember her name anyway. But she left. But I'll be honest with you, I never ever asked her to, you know, I'm not for me to ask. I never thought that she, I didn't think it affected her in a negative way as far as my interaction with her, that I was obsessed with it. I always wanted information about it. I was curious about it.

We got dynamics. We got the books. We got the DVD. So she sent it to me. I never watched anything. But I was obsessed with questions. I was just so curious about the whole thing. But she ended up leaving.

She went all the way through the program, spent millions of dollars, and she left ultimately and found something else. Well, yeah, because when you get to the ultimate thing, you're supposed to like, I think she was disappointed. Yeah, you're supposed to go into space ship and meet these people. And then this, yeah, and then space ship never comes and then they go, well, you just need to redo these courses and then you'll get to the work outside of her. That's what I've heard. I don't know. But she doesn't have any hostility there. Like there's no like, you know, dead bodies, so to speak, you know. Ali, you know that there was a lot of talk about you being D'Amois. Oh! Can you talk on that? I love D'Amois, big fan. Big fan. I think I liked it more and it was mostly focused on like influencers more relatable people now It's kind of like everyone every a list celebrities on there

So I hate to confirm that I am not Duma So don't confirm it don't just don't confirm it tonight, but don't confirm it Well, we just did I didn't she just said she's not too well. I think everyone knows that I'm not Duma No one actually thinks I'm too long. Is that these two girls? Do you know who do what is? I don't but I've spoken to Duma a lot. We have DMed frequently. But I don't know who they are. I feel like it's two girls maybe and they're based in the West Coast what I've heard but I've not asked them who they are. Well, I'm a dayshall view of that show, Bridgerton.

Yeah, right? I'm like Lady Bridgerton. Oh, okay. No, no, no, no. What's your lady Bridgerton is the person that does that? Yeah, it's a gossip. Yeah, I don't know what her name is. And Lady Bridgerton.

Now, what was the name in the character? Who cares? Listen. I will say, I, um, I DMed with you a little bit just because there would be a couple things that I was written about me and I was like, oh my god, I'm dying, I'm so flattered. And then she started a podcast and I was a guest on it. I listened to the podcast prior and she does this voice thing

so that you can't hear, you can't detect her voice. Almost like you were like on mafia or whatever, like you're like witness protection. Right. And so I listened into the voice before I spoke to her in person, not in person, but on a Zoom audio. I thought, oh, I wonder if she's actually a guy. But then I, when I did the interview,

maybe it's Perez Hilton again. No, when I did the interview, it was's Perez Hilton again. No, when I did the interview, it was just a normal sounding 30-something girl in my opinion. Oh, so you did hear her voice? I heard her voice regularly because then I think after they record it, then they put that voice thing on her voice.

To me, she just sounds like any white 30-year-old girl if I can't do this. No access. Yeah. Not, no, not, I had to guess. No access, yeah. Not, no, not, I mean, not New York here, anything. No, just kind of like normal hip voice. But anyway, big fan, so much fan of you mom. Yeah, not me. Jill, what would you have done at the SATA dinner

on Real Housewives of New York with Ramona and Ebony, do you remember it? Not really. I just remember them being, I just remember the pink. I just remember Sonya peeing outside in the driveway. Oh, yeah. That was bad. Right.

How do you remember that? Have you gone to Sonya's comedy show? Not yet, but I'd like to. I reached out to her. I wish to congratulations. And what she said. She said, thank you. And she's going to be back in New York next week.

And I have it on my calendar to call her. I actually wrote it down to call her when she's back. I'd like to see her. I haven't seen her in a long time. Jill, are you watching OC? Of course. What would you do about Nuella? What do you think her deal is?

Allie, who's chiming too? She doesn't belong on that show. She doesn't fit in. I think she's too quirky. Yeah. I mean, I just think the whole idea of Orange County is this kind of white vanilla lady. That's why with 2.2 kids and whatever.

I mean, that's what I kind of fantasized about it. That's how it started out with Vicky and whatever. With behind the gaze. Yeah, the whole thing. And I'd like to keep it there. I mean, you can make another show, sure. But I think that she just has an alternative lifestyle. I think the guy she's bringing to the table absolutely does not fit in with Heather DeBros' husband,

Dr. DeBro. Oh, you mean the new guy she's dating? Yeah, with the tattoos from Heather DeBro. Yeah. I just don't think that's the style of the show. And I think she's isolated on an island. Nobody likes her. I did need Bronwyn and her new girlfriend, Vika Cholianne.

Oh, talk about that. A lovely life lesbian story. I never met Bronwyn at any point, like before. I never met her. I met her very briefly at BravoCon. Did you like her? Yeah, I mean, she, the husband was really happy. I mean, they love being famous.

They, that, they just loved people seeing them. It was like outside of the building where there was like your stuff and like the museum. They've been building. So, people, not the one where the panels were, the other stuff. And they were just like, and they were sweet to me, but I mean they just, yeah, they thoroughly love them. They're loving families.

They seem really, really happy together of Vickatrillion. I don't know where we're going. Victoria, I guess. Vickatrillion. Is there Instagram name? I don't know. She's a model. But she was great. They seem in love happy like super genuine I thought first and that's the weird thing. She's like six children. I know But she spent most of her time in New York and Miami

So what I've read is In her new introduce she's given they do the nesting thing so they've one house in Orange County She lives in the business. So keys there with the kids for like 10 or 12 days. Wow. Taken their school and stuff. Like she lives a single lesbian life. And you aren't? Childless lesbian life for 10 or 12 days. And then she goes there and she goes somewhere. And he goes away. Yeah.

Well, I think her mom was very hippie. Yes, like, yes, raise that way too. Well, it's literally, that was one of her storylines of how hard it was that her mom had every young. First, the mom was in a band and would bring her mom to like the troubidor and like put her on a, on the corner of the stage at like eight and she'd be there till two in the morning or whatever and then go to school the next day and then the mom was like, you know what? I'm going to go to medical school and then the mom, when to medical school and again she felt sort of abandoned and the mom, that's a long that's not like a chapter that's like

that's like years yeah but then the mom met a much younger man and had two kids that are like I I don't know, 18 and 22 or something. Wow. But they're still together. She and the younger man are still together. Right, not with her father. Right. Right. And so then, but it is kind of interesting to see that like, Bronwyn's life, a major change and then like,

and because everything she said is like, everyone should be authentic and everyone should do what they wanna do and live their own life. And it's like fine, but you gotta take care of what they're like. But you brought it to the world. I mean, it's only been six months they've been together, but I mean, they seem really good. Well, why did she ever, she met her in New York. Why did she come? Why did she have to come to New York to begin with?

Like if you were gonna live separately from your husband, why wouldn't, and you're gonna do the nesting thing, why wouldn't you get like a small condo and that you'd switch off? Or even San Francisco's a lot closer. Yeah, she made it seem like. Why would you have to be, no, but yeah, exactly. If you wanted to like, I have a whole new

like same time vibe or something. Yeah, she said she was very, she felt very like separated from everyone else in Orange County from that. Right, because it's a very white vandal. Yeah, but it's not. That's such bullshit. Well, like those aren't the only people who have to hang out with them. The cast made, it's like, there's definitely gay people in Orange County.

And there's definitely different people. I didn't say that on. I know, but like I hate that when people act like, because that's not you. But I'm saying, I hate when that's like when someone's saying that like, nobody, what do you want people knocking on your door every day? Right. Hi. Hi.

We were going to bite your lunch, but then we heard you were a lesbian. Yeah, we're not. Well, New York is very different from Orange County in general. She was looking for a change, but yes, she just clubs and is exorbitant. In New York, you're going out every night. And Orange County is super. Does Orange County have a gay club life at all? Like to meet people? Yeah, Laguna's gay.

Oh, I didn't know that. Laguna's pretty gay. I'm a pretty good mom. I'm a Jewish girl. I have no idea what to talk about. Yeah, but you know, whatever. So she went to New York and they met in New York, huh? Yeah.

And then do you know that she has 15 orgasms a day each lasting 10 minutes? I'm jealous. That's a very busy day. It's a very not productive day. How long did it last? Nothing less 15 minutes. No 15 orgasms each lasting 10 minutes. I've never heard of an orgasm. There there's no way less than 10 minutes. 150 minutes. 60 seconds divided by 60 minutes. So what is that? Three hours of boning. Oh my god.

Oh my god. It's a good thing your kids aren't there. Okay, anyway. It's a full-ost time. What would Jill do if Kanye was her son-in-law? Oh, I'd be so happy. Really? And what's ends? Well, I'd be so happy. Really? And what's ends?

Well, I'd love to give advice. All right, well, what's your advice? He needs a lot of advice. He doesn't want to be his therapist. Dr. Jones. First of all, he's so freaking creative. You know, there's so many great things about Kanye. He is.

He's like a genius. You wouldn't care if you walked into Ali's house. And she had a daughter. And the daughter could only wear black or cream clothes and the whole house was cream. She could now any Christmas stick or not the two while she's Jewish, but she could have facts from fiction from that whole story. I really don't know.

Well the fact is the house was all cream and can't you work? I know, but you wouldn't feel like she influenced, he was very controlling, and had OCD in general. So I think he wanted things a certain way. Yeah, I don't know the problem to the matter. I saw a clip where he said, like that is a sunlight and think of it that deeply as being like the father of my grandchildren.

Well, I mean, I think, I think, it's like, you know, I think Chris is really good about staying out of the daughter's relationships until they need her I think she always supports it. Right, but I think she always supports it She always is like good have a baby get married. We love you come to the Christmas party I mean, not in it at so then when it just fall apart It's not like she's ever gonna to have that I told you so moment. So so I guess you wouldn't be. How could she be a judge either? You know what I mean? She's had her own issues and her own marriages and life. So

she's not judging. Yeah. She's not true to that. Okay. Not judge. Let's see. Oh Jill, have you gotten an invite to do Bravo Con, too, yet? No. Has anyone? Yeah, Heather, have you gotten an invite for Bravo Con, too? Yeah, I'm like, she's my plus one. What is the best way to go? How about going?

You're always my plus one. No, I'm going. Can you invite it? No, I can't invite it. I don't plan on, I hope I can invite it, but I'm going no matter what. Good. Oh, so not as my plus one, you're going on your run. No, I'm going as your plus one.

Oh, okay, just check it. Are you talking about it, Mom? I'm going to help you, so you're stuff. You better pour me out. Hello Beverly Hills housewives. You're going to be out. I'm getting on my climb. I'm much better swag this time.

Last time I had nothing to sell. I was just like promoting my run. Had a couple of books. It was really just selling stuff. I honestly, during, I mean, COVID was so much up and down. There was times where I was like, you know what, they're never gonna have it again.

They're gonna use this, the COVID is excuse, excuse. But now I feel that like, now that COVID is really done, like pretty whole who knows. But now I think it's gonna be really fun. It's gonna be, at the Javasend, that's a Barba one. The one, you know, the one's gonna be at the Javascript. It's a Bravo one. The one, you know, the one that we're gonna be gonna be

on the product. It's fine. I was like, oh, now, I'm like, now, come on. For it out. So unwrap it. Bitch. You'll love it.

By the way, I took your advice. I just wanted to know it. I'm gonna show you pictures tonight at dinner. Well, we talked about our candles last time, I was so. Oh, yeah. And you gave me some constructive advice. Nice. This one is, oh, that's future reality stuff. But we have one that says final rose. What does it say? Final rose material. Isn't that great? Final rose. Yeah. To give to give to

your friends. Yeah. Yeah. Just a mom's. Final rose material. We have. And then we have. And then we have Rose. And then we have Rose. You know what, what's so cute with these is that you could for like a bride to give to her bride's being. She could like future reality start of one. You know, the final Rose material. It's all so great.

Like, bride's being to get the bride. I love it. Ali, wait, show me the other ones. The crystal one. Don't be bad. Anyway, so we're doing a whole bunch of new pearls. I have wait, show it in the other ones. The crystal one. Don't be bad. Anyway, so we're doing a whole bunch of new colors. I have a question why she gets this. What would you do if your ex pooed in the bed,

all that amber turd? Okay, so do you see that color is more friendly? She has to bring it out. Look, don't worry about it. It's sweet, hard, and it's more friendly. And we're making it smaller, the words. I like it. I like it. This feels really good. It has crystals in here that one melts down.

You have the crystals. Yes. Oh, this is really get our garwood. It smells really good. It smells very like. But the color you see the color is way in a great way. Wait, Jill, I asked you a question. What's the question? What would you do? You heard about Amber. Wait, Jill, I asked you a question. That's a question. What would you do?

You heard about Amber, turned, leaving a turn. Oh my God, I get so disgusting. I didn't hear that. What would you, yeah, it's part of the trial. What would you do if your significant other shit the bet? I'm very spiteful. I mean, I would take that shit

and I would like to do something with it worse. Jill, you don't remember that this has already happened to you? Okay, it was ginger. It wasn't Gary. Don't poop is different than he would do. Don't poop is like this and, you know, yeah. But, you know, what ginger couldn't get off the bed and she sh- she sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- sh- stupid she just suicides off the bed and breaks a leg. Hi. I'm Patty Stanger's bed. I'm Patty Stanger's bed. Oh my god.

So the answer, what would I do? I would be very spiteful. And I would probably take it and put it in some place really bad. Like I'd probably put it in his wallet. Oh, like Orly, I like leave it for now. I would really hide it well for him. I mean, it would be everywhere.

And he would never forget it. Oh, this is a good one. Jill, what would you do if Ali started dating a man who was 20 years her senior? My son is low. You just saw him low. You just say about it. Is this his name, Elon Musk?

Oh no, just any guy. Well, I can't believe you. We'll see all this guy. Okay, how old are you, Ali? 29. Have you ever dated someone in their late 40s? No. I tried to get her someone even 10 years older. I thought I think Allison needs or I'm not gonna say now

But there were times when I go on dating someone that's younger than me. So right how much younger? 27 that's doesn't it's so younger. It is younger. It is younger than me. That's nothing I You know, Gary's too young than me. That's nothing. I would be 30 years older now. Like you told to the one person, at 33, I married, I was with somebody who was 50. I liked an older guy. Right. So, you know, if you asked me, if Ali fell in love

with someone who would give her children and was 20 years older and she loved him and he loved and adored her, it would not bother me. Because look, you know, life is fine. I agree. Would you have any advice for Lala at this time in her life? So that was no question. Lala needs to get healthy. I haven't spoken to her. I should have called to this trip She needs to eat. She needs to give herself nourishment because she's taking care of her baby

Yeah, because she she admittedly stopped eating because she's you know going through all this You know I haven't seen her in a couple weeks, but yeah, she did. She's totally different. Yeah, she was definitely, I ate with her. We ate. Good. Good. That's all. Because she said I could eat. She was in shock.

I got that. But I think she'll get it. She's doing better now. I adore her and she needs to force stall if that's a word, men right now. She needs to take care of her shit and see where it falls, whatever that may be. I wish I could be a mediator for her. I do. I wish I could, you know, I could give

her the gift of mediation because she'll go broke, go go broke, and at the end of the day, they'll end up with us, supposed to end up anyway. So I just hope for the baby's sake that, you know, she has a relationship, an ocean should have a relationship with her father and her mother. But in this case, I do think that the mother should have physical custody and that he should not and he should have visiting, you know, visitation. I think I'm a big, strong believer that children should be brought up primarily in one location. For them, it's best for them to go to school and get out of bed five days a week in the same bed.

I think it's selfish when parents say two weeks. I'm Monday, Tuesday in my house. Wednesday, and you wonder why your kids can't find their shit and their homework is left here and this and that. It's like so destructive and I grew up in one house in one bed and I'm almost fucked up with stuff. Can you imagine if I had to live in two locations all the time?

I know, I know it's hard because especially in California, it's very much about 50-50. And I agree that the dad should have the rights too, but you're right. You have to think about what's best because I just saw a TikTok and this one was like, I just lost my son. I was like, son, this. Like, what was the hardest time in your life? And he goes, when you and dad had the thing where I had to split the week.

Because now they had worked it out that a kid was at the house the whole week. And then like, you know, or whatever. And it's easier once they're older too. Because once they're older, the dad's like, hey buddy, can I take you to dinner like on Thursday? And the mom is like, the kid says, well, let's be, that's baby. When they're late on, and they're going on.

Right, so when they're babies it's hard when they're the little and they're going on right then I am so when they're little Their life is revolved around school, you know a little bit of homework dinner and bed So if a husband's working a full day a full job and coming home if he's lucky at five or six or seven He only gets to the leftovers. He gets the back time and the hardest part putting him to bed So really what did you get out of that? What you did is you tortured your kid now because now is going to not remember that he left something at home or whatever. It's just torture and it's about ego. It's always about the parents. They like me more. The baby wants to be with me or I feel so guilty that we're divorced that I have to be with you half the time because otherwise

I'm not doing my job. If I don't fight for half, then I'm a bad father. No, fight for doing the best thing for your kid, and then you'll have a healthy child, and a great relationship when they get older. I'm really strong advocating. You know what, Allison's father never fought me on that. And he had 50, he could have had whatever he wanted. If he wanted, I was very open. And he said,

Ali needs to sleep in your house every night because that's the best thing for her. And I will come to her. Yeah, when he moved to Jersey, it was much more difficult for me to do money. But legally, he had the right to. He didn't do it. We talked about it. That wasn't best for Ali. Right. So speaking of your juicy story last time you were on about your donor family, by the way, she only talked to you about that. You know that you broke a huge story. I know. I know. I just remind people really quickly of the story. How you you're you've found out later on and we won't get into how you found out. You found out only a few years ago, right? Yep. That my mom and dad used to sperm donor to conceive me.

And then we found out the sperm donor that they chose wasn't actually the one that was used. Correct. So the sperm may have mixed up the donor. Luckily, it didn't affect me at all that I know of, because the end of the day, I'm still my mom's child and whatever. And we found him.

His name is, I won't say his name. So you found the correct one. You found the correct one. However, I have not met him yet, but I've met my half sister through him. And do you like her? She's great. We've hung out a bunch.

She acts like Gary's. Oh, you hung out? Really? She lives three blocks away from my mom and Gary. Really? She moved to the city? I didn't know that. Why don't you invite her over?

And you share your half sister through, because you were both, because of the sperm donor? Same donor? Oh, not like his actual child that he's raised. No, no, no. He's never, he doesn't have any children. Oh. It's all sperm donor children.

And there's about four other girls we know of, but it only met this one. And she's great. Does she look like you? Not really. Not really. And she's tall. She has the eyes.

She's blue. And so have you guys only talked over the computer? I've talked to the phone. We've met in person. The dad, I have not. The dad, he've only emailed. And do you have any desire to meet him? What's the, or does he have any desire?

Like, what's the hold up? I think he is a desire because he's asked me a few times to meet. I don't really because I feel like I'm pretty fulfilled in terms of dads and there was my dad, there was Bobby, there was Gary, I wanted to be a mom. Yeah, mom wants to be a mom. I asked all the questions.

I was like, no, I don't really have a strong desire to. Is that weird? So the mix up, it wasn't someone they chose, but it was someone that was like a popular donor. Like he had all the assets, people were choosing him as well. We have no idea. We think it could have been just a mistake. Wow.

Well, at least it wasn't the doctor, you know, that's happened. Oh, yes it had. The story with that fertility doctor in Texas, he got off. And if people would think they were choosing some California medical student Yeah, and the doctor. Yeah, and I was the doctor, but who knows I mean this firm bank could have been choosing this guy for a reason We have no idea. Wow Okay, here's a good one. That's my number one Google alert. So anyone Googles me really I Who is Ali Shapiro's dad? Oh my me really I love it

How would you feel Ali if Jill your mother was killing it on Instagram and TikTok by dancing in her bedroom in just her underwear Like I think there is someone that does that now Yes, but she has a hot body the hot body and I do the that now. She has a hot body. She has a hot body. And you have a hot body. If I had a hot body and could dance. And I could dance.

I think it'd be great. I think it's really fun. Yes. She's got great width. I know you told him that L.R. She's got everyone who was talking about L.R. She has the sickest body. She's got great width.

I'm great dancer. Well, she has to do with the stars. Yes. She should have won. Her body is ridiculous got great with them. Great dancer. Well, she doesn't see what the stars. Yes, she should have won. Her body's ridiculous. Ridiculous. Her... And I think her face is just studying. I know.

She's had a lot of work done. I don't care. She's beautiful. I love her face and I love her. And I love her personality. I love her lipstick. Anything going in. The soul of my life.

I'm wearing it. The Lisa, Linda, lips. I'm telling you, it's the best liner. It is, because it's, it's, it's rolls. And you don't have to sharpen it. You never have sharpen it at the liner and then the lip and then, and then it's a head and then it's gloss on top. Yeah.

It's really good. I think anything I'm on can do that's authentic and organic and you can post it yourself. I'm gonna be very happy. Yeah. You want to dance in your t-shirt and underwear. That's fine. Okay.

How would you like that? What would you do? This is for both of you ladies. What would you do if you're on a sprinter van? And it was surrounded by Homeland Security to arrest one of your friend slash cast meets. You saw that in Salt Lake, right? I might be looking for a future husband for Ali,

if he's hot. I'm just saying. Oh, like the whole landscape. It's a pretty guy. Every single person she meets, that's decently good looking. She goes, are you single? Just saying, that's what's on my mind. So yeah, I believe that.

I would be, for all you know, I call my sister, Judge Lisa Wexler. Oh, and ask her. What was going on? Yeah, that's good. You would get the scoop there. Yeah. What do you think's gonna happen with Judge Shaw? I think she's gone to jail. Yeah, that's good. You would get the scoop there. Yeah. What do you think's gonna happen with Jun Shaw? I think she's gone to jail. Yeah. What happened? She didn't have a case? No, it's I think it's like set for October or something to talk to. Yeah, I mean it's July or October. You know what do you think's gonna happen?

I think she's gonna get time for sure. Real time in jail. Real time. Like, like, I was gonna say like six. It's a first offense. I was gonna say. It's a first offense. It's not, yeah, there's a lot more to it. It's not necessarily the first offense. She kind of was caught for doing it before.

Oh. And then like figured a different way to do it. So I think, she was arrested. I think she'll get six years, but end up doing like two and a half. I was at March 10th. It was a perspective July. July.

I would lie. Right around the corner. Let's see. And I know they're filming right now. She doesn't sleep at night. I mean, you can't sleep at night. Not knowing. She is sleeping at night.

She's like dancing around having the time of her life. She's sleeping at night. She's in a long long life. Does she have stressful moments like when she has a meeting with the you know attorneys or whatever. But then I think she almost like compartmentalizes it and is able to like you know go it's amazing and sell all her stuff and dance and have fun. And she was like up on she was doing some dancing with some person. Who was she with? She have any friends on the show. Do you know what's going on there? Listen I'm just saying

she can still have a good time. Does she have some really hard moments does she cry at night and freak out? I'm sure she does. But it's not like she can't have fun as well. And she should. She might be in jail for six years. What happens to the other one? She should be able to dance.

Know what happened to the... What? Lato. Lato, she's dancing with Lato. Well, what happened with the one who didn't come back? What's her name? Mary. happened to her in the church? I think the church is gone and I think it's gone. Well, you think she's I went to the church It's like all boarded up. It's over with she might have moved the church. I

There's so few people left that are into this church like I think so yes Yes, yes, the people are doing the research said it's like not even like a hundred people. Oh, she's probably starting it up somewhere else. I don't think anyone, now it's hard though. Now who, what kind of fools are you gonna get? Oh, there are a lot of fools. Mm, I have a lot of things to do. I think it's pretty hard to start again.

Okay, we're gonna let me see if there's anything. Are you friends with Annie Allie, any other of the Bravo kids that you can touch with are really? I'll tell you, friendly with most of them. Like if I saw Avery and Victoria's kids, definitely. We always get along. I think Jersey kids if I saw them, but it was weird because we were one of the first housewives that we were all young.

I feel like now there's a big age gap between older kids that are older and then the new housewives because they're much younger. So there's a big age gap. Yeah. But I think like a Bravo con we hang out with them. It's nice like have this camaraderie and this shared experience but you know what I'm gonna do today. I'm gonna look for it. Okay. Okay. All right. I'm pitching something right now. Bravo con because it's my idea. It's gonna be really awkward if you you. Okay, this is great. All right, I'm pitching something right now, Bravo Con, because it's my idea, it's gonna be really awkward if you don't ask me to do it.

We need to have a panel with the kids. Oh, gee, kids are new kids. Oh, gee. What do you mean, like, gee, oh, gee, it doesn't matter, it could be a variety. Well, no kids are the past or kids are the present. Like, bookmarks is now and Ali's 10 years ago. I think we could mix them.

I think that's what's interesting. Well do you remember when it was a watch and happens live special where Andy and I and I were getting didn't invite me and someone took it very personally. Oh, why weren't you invited for that? I don't know. They said maybe then maybe I can't get this

because it was kind of already done. But anyway, I would like to ask. No, it was different than that. It wasn't that. As a mother of kids that are 20s and teens, I would like to do a panel with whatever kids they want. I know every single one. And I can come up with questions and everything of what would be... What would you ask, Sally? Well, I've asked her a lot on this show.

Oh, that's true. But mostly, I really want to get to the juice. Like, when was one time that being your daughter's child was, and this is good, that it really helped you or was really beneficial or a super fun night. What was one experience that you were like, wow, this wouldn't have happened or this was great, this person approached me. And then one was one of the times where it was really hurtful. In my perspective, I would say that my mom was always this like socialite person.

So I never felt like our lives changed that much. It was a very gradual shift because there was no overnight social media. So for me, I always felt like we were always this socialite. They were always her friends. Nothing really changed that drastically for a very long time. Until pretty much the past few years. We were always kind of in magazines and stuff. So I never really felt like it helped us that much.

But I got a younger. You don't know. No. But I always felt like it hurt me because I was embarrassed in school going to college. I was embarrassed getting a job after school. You were embarrassed because when people say it or you thought they were thinking it. Like, oh that's Jill's Aaron's daughter. Because I was scared when they googled me if I had a job they would see Jill's Aaron's daughter whatever it is and it was about weight loss and a diet camp and whatever but I feel like now with social media and stuff everyone has a platform everyone's some kind of celebrity.

And you have your own voice. Yeah it's not that crazy anymore special to be recognized or known and so I feel like yeah I need to help some interesting point. In general being like semi-famous but it wouldn't take the housewives, Skyrocketed us specifically. It was more of this overall fame that we've all, you know? I remember this, a club in New York that you went to, I think in the last couple of years,

and they recognized you. Oh my God. I won't say the name of it. No one is funnier, it's funnier. So I went to a club with my friends, and they were giving us a very hard time. And they told me, my girlfriend's via a table with my friends, and they were giving us a very hard time. They do. My girlfriend's buy a table we get in,

and the balancer was probably gay, I would say it was gay. And he goes, you know, these, all of these curtains are from Zaryn Fabrics. And so it's funny, he knew me and that it was Zaryn Fabrics. I remember that. Okay. But it's really how I get into the club. So, yeah, I mean, I feel like you never know who...

I thought, no. Up into club. Didn't talk. Well, all I feel like you never know. I thought, no. Up into the club. Well, all the gays love you. I was saying, wasn't it the time where you went to the door and the dorm and recognized you? You said you can come in with all your friends and all it was like, was a big shot because you got 15 people into a club that you couldn't get into.

Yes. Because they recognized her. Right, so that's exactly what you're saying. So that's a positive answer. You answered the question perfectly. It had those perks, but then it had this extra anxiety or stress a little bit. Yeah. So, well, girls, thank you so much. Thank you for schlepping over here. When am I, let's get out the calendar. Yep. For when I'm coming to hang out, I'm inviting myself to the Hampton.

You're always invited. We, um, I'm your guest at BravoCon. Yes. And, and then I also want to get out and pick out and I, and pick by some rugs today. To do. Because I keep saying I will, I, and I never, so while we're here, we're going to show me this stuff. I need one for my house inside, and I need one for my patio.

Good, you know, the sizes, that was the issue. I mean, I can show you here with my size. I'll walk around and you tell me what I'm doing. And we can share our code. Yes. Oh yeah, what is the code for the GCC? GCC15 on jilsaren.com and jillandallie.com, for all of your gifts and rugs and furniture and everything. Awesome. Thank you girls.

Thank you for the best house. You're the best housewife, juicy scoopers ever. Well, number one fan, I am a member of Patreon too. I know, so that's why I can never say anything bad about you. I protect myself that way. It's an insurance policy. She's the best show, I don't know what to tell you. You are the best comedian.

Thank you. I'm your biggest high agree. It's an insurance policy. Now, she's the best show. I don't know what to tell you. You are the best comedian. Thank you. I'm your biggest high agree.