Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald - Justin Bieber’s Secret, Murdaugh Murders, Italian Siblings, and Me

Episode Date: March 2, 2023

I go deep, as promised, into the history behind Selena, Justin, and Hailey Bieber. How did Hailey get Justin to fall for her? Did Taylor Swift always know? The Prosecution in the Murdaugh double murde...r trial began their closing arguments. But will a jury believe a father could have ever committed such a brutal crime? William and Kate are reminding us they are all we need. Are East Coast Italian siblings a particular breed? This may help non-Italians understand the endless Teresa vs. Joe Gorga saga on RHONJ. The most sexual storylines are on RHOP. Larsa Pippin defends her love life on RHOM, and Lenny’s girlfriend recycles outfits. Meri on Sisterwives shares about her sexuality. When is a guy ready to marry, and is it permanently to the love of his life? Get extra juice on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/juicyscoop https://heathermcdonald.net/ Subscribe on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@JuicyScoop/featured Follow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heathermcdonald/ Follow me on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeatherMcDonald Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:23 Listen in, listen up. Woo, woo, and a McDonald. Juicy scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy scoop. I have been studying for 24 hours. I have so much to go over, so much to recap on. There is a lot of scoop and I'm doing it all for you. So just sit back, get ready.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Let's go for it. I did not realize what I talked on Tuesday about this Selena Gomez Haley Bieber story. I was like, what's up with these girls? Then I just kept seeing more and more about it. And so many people have done research. I've done research. I've gathered
Starting point is 00:01:05 it all for you and it's pretty juicy and I have some of my own theories. So first of all, it starts out as you guys may or may not know. Selena Gomez, Star of Waverly, plays obviously a big star. She also has her own makeup line call, Rare Beauty. Everyone loves her. I got in trouble once for talking about how she got a kidney from a best friend and I didn't think she was treating that girl like her best friend anymore and the bots came after me or not. They maybe they weren't bots. She is really hardcore fans.
Starting point is 00:01:38 She currently has more. She is the most followed woman on Instagram with three million more followers than Kylie Jenner. Kylie Jenner and Kendall Jenner seem to be friendly with Hayley Beaver, but they are also very friendly with, not sorry, they're also very friendly with, it's appear to be friendly with Selena, but they're also really friendly with Hayley Beaver. Like hang out, do TikToks together, all of that. Haley Bieber is the daughter of Steven Baldwin, who is one of the three, there's four Baldwin brothers, Alec, Steven, Billy, and I think Danny. So Steven is very hardcore religious Christian,
Starting point is 00:02:25 and they raise Hailey to be that as well. And so interestingly enough, Hailey is the niece of Alec Baldwin and Hilaria Baldwin. A lot of the theories are that Hailey was super obsessed with Selena as a fan and as someone that was obsessed with her as a teenager and equally obsessed with Justin and kind of stalked him and put herself in a position to eventually win his heart. So the evidence that pertains to this is a lot and it includes Haley being obsessed
Starting point is 00:03:03 with Selena and copying a lot of what she does as far as tattoos, jewelry, and business ideas and even things that she says and interviews which I'll get into to her relationship with Justin. I mean, there's just so much. And then the Taylor Swift element where Taylor, as you know, is a prolific writer and songwriter and a lot of her swifty fans like to try to analyze her music. And yesterday it came to me that I believe that Taylor Swift who considers Selena Gomez one of her best friends and is a big defender of Selena Gomez.
Starting point is 00:03:39 One of her songs, Mastermind, seems to be possibly talking about Haley Baldwin. And there's other things where at one time, now this is a rumor that someone told me so this I don't have the fact that that that that Selena was with Justin, but then Selena went to Paris with some of these girls, Kendall Jenner, and whatnot. And then while she was gone, is when Hailey Beable found herself in the same room with Justin Bieber, and then they started dating.
Starting point is 00:04:14 The song, which is called Mastermind, from Taylor Swift, some of the lines are, what if I told you none of this was accidental? And the first night that you saw me, nothing going to stop me. I laid the groundwork and then just like that clockwork the dominoes cascaded in a line. What if I told you I'm the mastermind. You see all the wisest women have done it this way because we were born to be upon in a lover's game. If you fail to play, you play to fail. So a strategy and all this. Now, I, Halaria Baldwin met Alec Baldwin at this vegan restaurant, which my sources tell me
Starting point is 00:04:54 that she and everything that I read, she knew that he liked that place. She also knew that he was obsessed with Selma Hayek, who was his co-star at the time on 30 Rock, who of course is Spanish and has a Spanish accent. And she presented herself and she started speaking in Spanish and he's like, I just need to meet who is this woman. And the rest is history. And many years later, he found out she was not from Spain at all, but from Boston. And her name is Hillary, not Hilaria. Okay. So,
Starting point is 00:05:21 along with some of the things, the first one is that Selena has this tattoo that's on the back of her, like on the side of her neck, that it looks to be a J for Justin. Other people say it's a small G for her little sister, but Hayley Baldwin got the same tattoo, very weird. Other things are that Selena Gomez had a cooking show and she would say, this is my actual kitchen, this is where I live.
Starting point is 00:05:53 And then Hailey Baldwin started a cooking show. Now a lot of people do that, but she also said, this is my actual kitchen, this is where I live. Selena would say, I'm gonna be cooking with Bipop, Pock. Here he is. And then Hailey would say, today I'm gonna be cooking with Bipopop. Here he is. And then Haley would say, today I'm gonna be cooking with my Nana.
Starting point is 00:06:09 And this is what we're gonna do. There are so many things in the exact same words that Selena has said at interviews, she had said. One of the questions being like, they asked Selena, what is something that you want people to know about you that they don't know? And she's like, I just want people to know my heart. And then you'd see Hayley Baldwin in an interview kind of volunteer that question,
Starting point is 00:06:31 even though it wasn't asked. Like, I wish people that really don't know me would just know the most important thing about me, my heart. Like, it's crazy. It's like so many things like that. And another thing, as they said, I was able to tell my story from my mouth. I want to tell my own story from, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:50 so many things have been said about me. Selina would say, all of these things, though, Selina always said first and did these things first. Okay, so then there's this piece of jewelry. So there was a tattoo that Haley had that was the J, that there was the J, and it was just font, meaning for Justin, but Justin also gave a jewelry of a J and gave it to a ring, gave it to, but it was piece of jewelry, but it was that same font to Selena.
Starting point is 00:07:26 So there's just like a lot of them. I don't want to bore you guys, but also as far as a Selena Gomez thing, one time, Hayley Beaver was presenting and she at award show and her co-presenter said, and now for Taylor Swift and Hayley Beaver like stuck her finger down her throat. Also, she had some really awful tweets that have come out from 10 years ago, not granted, she was a teenager then, but they are racist tweets
Starting point is 00:07:55 that this person Sloan had put together is a big YouTube show. So I'm sharing his stuff here. But she's with Cody Simpson. When you're at that, that awkward moment, when you're at a Chinese restaurant and your waiter is in Chinese, there is one with the N word in it, very shocking. Going to Florida, white, but coming back to New York as a different race. First, I thought it was tan, but then she has an emoji of someone of a different ethnicity in there.
Starting point is 00:08:25 I mean, they're very disturbing. But again, she was a teenager. So then I found this other thing that Justin Bieber is on Ellen, and she's always asking about his relationship with Haley Bieber and Justin said, how did she just, how did you mean he goes, well, her dad knew my pastor
Starting point is 00:08:48 and he's like, both these kids are into, you know, our Christians, they should meet and he goes, and then actually, it was an arranged marriage. Yeah, I think it was an arranged marriage. I can't really explain it, but it was an arranged marriage. So her dad, Stephen Baldwin, was like, hey, I think, you know, goes to the pastor in which, but Justin Bieber gave her a lot of money too, and was like, I think that, you know, my daughter
Starting point is 00:09:12 and he should meet. We also see that she was just a huge fan. There's a page six just posted this. She's very young in this photo, a and she wrote seriously though she's beyond flawless talking about salina and he's you know he's beaver they are the perfect relationship for ever alone about herself is a tweet that hailey did and there's a photo for on a red carpet holding a team beat magazine with salina and justin and you know I I believe she's more obsessed with Selena because even after she's married to Justin, Selena goes out on date or is seen with the weekend. And prior to that, the weekend was dating Bella Hadid.
Starting point is 00:09:59 And then right after this came out in the news, she writes, isn't Bella Hadid the cutest thing ever? Is there anyone isn't Bella Hadid the cutest thing ever? Is there anyone better than Bella Hadid? Just weird stuff like that, or Selena would have the number one song in Cardi B would be number two, and then she'd be like, that Cardi B song is absolutely the best, that should be number one. Just constant, but then she would go on other interviews
Starting point is 00:10:21 and be like, no, Selena and I are good, there's no bad beef, we talk, or they see each other on a red carpet, they might hug, and but now people are really diving in deep of all the weird stuff about it. So, um, and then um, our girl Meredith Lynch, who really loves looking up people's trademarks, which I love because she's a genius. She found that she has trademarked Haley B, or along with all her makeup and roads, makeup and everything.
Starting point is 00:10:52 This thing called mood board. And now all these articles about Haley's stylings and her outfits and her nails are like, the writer will write, add this to your mood board, do this to your mood board. And so it's like, it really just, what Meredith does is really expose this machine that like, I haven't put out my clothing line
Starting point is 00:11:15 called mood board yet, but I'm going to have my PR person feed these articles to their contact at page six or whatever, and in describing my outfit, hey, can you make sure you use the word mood board? So then when my clothing line comes out and be like, you know how I'm obsessed with all my stuff, you know, now you can get. So that's pretty juicy.
Starting point is 00:11:36 And listen, she has a right to pursue beauty and fashion and everything, because she's not a singer, but definitely just how strategic she really is in her business was she that strategic in finding love. Meanwhile when all this is going down Justin has in fact canceled the rest of his tour. As you know he had Ramsey Hunt syndrome which was kind of gave like a partial paralysis to his eye and face.
Starting point is 00:12:06 So it was canceled for that, but then he was going to finish up the tour. And that now, you know, she has to rate that's counsel as well. In all of this going on, which is this, this is a PR nightmare for Haley Bieber. Nobody seems to be defending Haley Bieber in this. Everything I see is pro Selena Gomez and everybody being told you so. I mean, there are thousands of TikToks and Instagram reels of people putting together their facts and like other people that have been TikToks
Starting point is 00:12:36 of like worst celebrity I've met and how many have really negative stories about Haley Bieber. One girl I just watched that I was so excited I saw Haley Bieber at some concert, and I said, I'm such a fan, do you think I could get a photo? And she's like, okay.
Starting point is 00:12:52 And takes the photo, she goes, is there anything else you want from me? And she goes, no, thanks, hope you're fun. I just wanted to get my photo, thanks. And then she said, and then she walked off with her friend and was like, oh, Haley, I'm such a big fan. And she saw her mock her.
Starting point is 00:13:08 So I definitely think there's a mean girl element with all of these girls and it's evident of it. And then, you know, and even the older Kardashian girls, I know it seems crazy because they're so graceful and so well spoken in their interviews and stuff. But there's evidence of emails and texts between Kim Kardashian and Haley Duff and stuff. She said mean things about Paris. No, Hillary and Haley.
Starting point is 00:13:35 There was a story with them that I came across because I was like on the stuff where Kim was like 27 and writing like really snory meme stuff back and forth about other celebrities, about Paris and what. So it's like, these girls can be mean girls even though they're rich and famous and sometimes there's evidence and receipts of it. Okay. So this is where we're at with all this.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Now, my next theory is, I wondered why they haven't had kids yet, Haley and Justin, and being that if she was about to nail it down, why hasn't she had a baby? And I'm not saying she doesn't have, you know, that they haven't tried it or they don't want to try. Ellen has asked and he's like, that would be up to Haley and he came off really great and really respecting Haley. And I think like it's very, it's not, it's very popular right now, especially if you're super rich to be like a young mom. So I just kind of like, that's interesting. Why haven't they? This is just my theory. I had a theory many years ago when I was at Chelsea lately, when George Clooney was single. a theory many years ago when I was at Chelsea lately when George Clooney was single. And I said, I believe George Clooney had a secret for sector me. How has he had all these girlfriends without
Starting point is 00:14:52 ever getting them pregnant? He now is married. He, I believe, has twins with his wife. I'm pretty confident they went through some type of fertility, but I'm not sure. And I know for a fact that there's a lot of guys that get secret the sanctumies when they're young. They take their sperm, they put it in a safe place, and they get of a sectomy. Sometimes they have it reversed or sometimes when they're finally ready to have a kid, they're like, well, let's just do in vitro. Okay. But this way, nobody's going to ruin my life or there are guys that don't
Starting point is 00:15:26 want to be Nick Cannon. No one's going to, you know, I'm not going to be a father for to a woman that I didn't really want to share my life with. If I cheat on my wife, I'm not going to have an unexpected baby. This is great. And sometimes when that happens, when you get a vasectomy, sometimes there is a possibility of a infection or something with the nether regions down there. There was a time where there was an article back in 2017 with
Starting point is 00:16:00 Justin Bieber where he was at the hospital and somebody got a hold of his records, and it was something with an enlarged like ball sack. So all of this is theory. None of this is true. None of this is proven. The show is called Juicy Scoop.
Starting point is 00:16:17 I am one person plus Annie. We read a lot of shit and we talk about it and that's all it is. And now he's canceled his tour. All of this is coming out. This is a horrible PR nightmare for Haley Bieber. It does not make her the likeable one. I don't see a lot of people coming to her defense. I also said that Selena Gomez was gonna go on a social media
Starting point is 00:16:40 break, but you said she tweeted yesterday. So that lasted a day and a half or Instagram. That lasted a half. So nobody lasted a day and a half or Instagram, that lasted and a half. So nobody took my name 90 day advice. But anyway, I mean, it's just I am obsessed, though, that women who are very calculating and getting who they want and kind of being a chameleon to get that guy to fall in love with them. I'm fascinated by it because it was never me.
Starting point is 00:17:06 I knew women like that. I'd just been a women in history like that. I believe Hilaria Balld women's one. I believe Haley Beaver's one. I believe Megan Markle is one. Doesn't mean they're bad people. Doesn't mean that this marriage can't be real love. It just means some women really go after it and sort of trick the guy into thinking that
Starting point is 00:17:25 it was by chance that I met you and it was by the stars aligned or that we were both Christians or whatever. And I just find that part of it fascinating and that's why I'm choosing to talk about it. Okay. Now, oh, also Jordan Woods. Tribondia of who Jordan Woods was, she was Kylie Jenner's best friend from 11 years old on. She was part of her short lived series. The one that Chaita Black said, uh, the one that plaque Chaita said, the life of Kylie is why their show, she and, um, Rob's show were taken off of E. They did life of Kylie one season with her best friend Jordan. I met her. She was very nice. Not a booming personality. I don't think, but she was her best friend. She was started to model and get a lot of her own following.
Starting point is 00:18:18 And then one night she went to a party and was seen making out possibly more but admitted to making out with Tristan father of now um, Chloe's two kids. They stopped being friends, Kylie replaced her with this girl, Stasi baby, this other girl Stasi who got the same ass and everything and they seemed to have fun and they seemed like they might even be more than friends. Again, my opinion. Okay, so Jordan Woods, then she posted something saying, I just love this lip liner by Rare Beauty who Selena Gomez is makeup line so much,
Starting point is 00:18:56 meaning she likes it better than Kylie's lip liner, then Kim's lip liner, then everyone else's lip liner, the Lisa Ritter's lip liner, then everyone else's lip liner, the Lisa Ritter's lip light, she likes this the one the most. And so she's kind of stating, I know what side of history I want to be on and it's Selena Gomez. So good for you, Jordan. Sometimes small, daily actions really make a big difference, especially when it comes
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Starting point is 00:20:37 this trial is insane, and that's the Murdoch murder. I did two juicy crimes on it. If you're part of Patreon, you can listen back to those. But today is the closing statements. So as recording right now, today Wednesday, I have heard the first part of the closing argument of the prosecutor, and I'm up on it, and I just wanna fill you in for those of you
Starting point is 00:21:02 that are watching every day and every second. I don't know that you'll love my commentary. I'm sure you'll say, I Heather Wyvern, you not watch this trial every day. I think I'm knowledgeable enough to speak on it and Shannon, my sister, who's an attorney, we also talked about it. The basic juice of this story is there's this guy, Alec Murdock. Murdock, a sky, Alec Murdoch.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Murdoch, Murdoch, different ways to pronounce things. He came from a long line of attorneys that not only were, they called them solicitors there, but not only were they prosecutors, but they also had private practices and they made a lot of money. And there was a lot of nepotism in this town and they ran the town and everything. I'm trying to get to say it. So one day, June 7th to be exact, June 7th, he, his son, who was 21, I think at the time,
Starting point is 00:22:00 and his wife were found shot dead on their property where this big property where they had this big property where they had these dogs in kennels because they were hunting dogs. He immediately said, oh my god, he said he found them. He was with them before. Then he said he went to go visit his sick parent and when he came back, he went out there and was like, oh my god, someone came and shot my son and wife dead and it must be all these people that were making threats on our family and our lives. What has come out in the trial
Starting point is 00:22:33 is that he never made the police aware that anyone was making threats on his life or his family's life or his son's life. The reason people thought, oh my God, this is a revenge kill is because the son Paul, who was a real fuck up and probably an alcoholic, insisted on driving his friends one night when he was drunk in a boat past midnight and was speeding as a begged him not to crash into this bridge. And a couple people went flying out of the boat, one being this girl, Mallory Beach.
Starting point is 00:23:05 He wasn't found till days later and she was deceased. So he was dealing with being that he was drunk behind the wheel and of course there was gonna be a criminal trial and obviously a civil case because she was killed wrongfully. So he's dealing with that. Then, but the biggest part is that he was like a Tom Gerardi. He did a lot of cases where they're wrongful,
Starting point is 00:23:32 you know, like accidents or someone got hurt on the job or they were, you know, a malpractice, whatever. He would represent the person that was a victim. He would have a big winning and he would either give them a little or partial or not tell them how much he really won just like Tom, because maybe it was not even in court. And then he would take it all for himself. And he wouldn't even give it to the rest of his partners. He would hide it from his partners. That all came out in the trial, the incredible financial deception he was doing. He was screwing over the law firm. He
Starting point is 00:24:13 was screwing over his clients. He was screwing over the clients family. He was screwing over a housekeeper that died on his property in which he acted like he was going to help her sons collect money from his own homeowners insurance policy. Those two were completely deceived. The two boys, he took all that money and he had an opioid opioid addiction problem, which no one denies that, but in it, he said, oh, it was, you know, so many pills that the prosecution ers like, we think you're lying about how bad your opiate addiction was
Starting point is 00:24:48 because you would be dead if you took this many pills. So they're presenting, he lies about everything. He lies about everything and he has no emotions about screwing over all these clients and screwing over all these people. The only emotions that he has is he did, you know, show some emotion about his wife and child. However, they have the, you know, all the forensic from his phone and everything of what happened
Starting point is 00:25:16 once he found them and the police came and the different things that he looked on his phone, one on a restaurant nearby one was responding to a group text of a girl in a bikini calling his brother and all these other people before he calls the one surviving son why I think it's significant that he didn't call buster right away the the only surviving person of their immediate family of four at this point besides himself was if you really thought that there is some revenge killing going on because you're these prominent people and you know, you might be a target
Starting point is 00:25:51 or your son might be a target because of the horrible tragedy of this girl, Mallory Beach, that died on the boat accident. When the first thing be like, oh my God, where is the rest of my family? Where, but most importantly, where is my other son? You'd call the other son first and you'd be like, oh my God, where is the rest of my family? Where, but most importantly, where is my other son? You'd call the other son first and you'd be like, go right now to the police department. You need security. Somebody is annihilating our family.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Then I'm going to call my two brothers and make sure they're safe and their families are safe. That's not how he acted. The clothes were not the clothes he was wearing before. His son, Buster did a, sorry, his son Paul did a Snapchat on his phone that was recovered, that shows that his timeline wasn't what he said,
Starting point is 00:26:37 and that in fact, Alex was there. So the timeline doesn't match up with what Alex says. So it comes down to that. But the jury is going to have to say, okay, and then there was also evidence that the wife was possibly wanting to get divorced and not pleased with him and they knew he had an addiction. And also, so they were killed on June 7th on June 10th. He was there was going to be this thing where he was going to have to show and open up all
Starting point is 00:27:10 of his financial records. So all of his lies and everything that he was doing, it was all going to come crashing down on June 10th. And then on June 7th this horrible tragedy happens where his wife and his son are killed. So now people have sympathy for Alex. They have sympathy that's going to put everything off for a few months as far as him showing his financial records because of all the law deception, as well as the Mallory Beach case.
Starting point is 00:27:41 There's now he's a victim too. So they believe the prosecution. That was the motivation and also his son. Paul was going to not have a great life. He was probably definitely going to have to do time, even with all the favors that his wealthy family could pull. And so he might have thought, you know what? It is really hard to think that a man could do this. And that is what the jury is gonna have to really think about. Besides the evidence conflicting, the defense says that the killer was between five, two and five, four, and it was done with two guns. Therefore, it must have been two people,
Starting point is 00:28:23 and that would go with Alex's story thing. It wasn't me, it was two people. I don't know who they are, but they hated our family. The prosecution is saying, no, we believe that that the gunfire could have been done by one person using two guns to make it appear like two people and that it doesn't necessarily have to be a short person. That's all that forensic stuff
Starting point is 00:28:43 where two experts then can flick. So that's a lot for the jury to go and think about. And the other part is just, you know, yes. In the history of time, people have killed their spouse over money, no longer in love, a fair divorce, then finding out somebody. So it's like, had he just killed his wife, I think it would be an easier conviction.
Starting point is 00:29:04 I think people are still gonna have a really hard time. Why did he have to kill his son too? So that is where, and then the crazy thing happened where, you know, a couple of weeks later, he calls and he's like, I was on the side of the road and someone drove by and shot me. But I'm living. When that happened, people thought,
Starting point is 00:29:25 oh my God, someone really is after their family, they just tried to kill him. But then other people thought, wait a minute, then he tried to have someone kill him so that he would die and whatever money was left would go to his remaining son, Buster. But now the prosecution, and I believe that no, he knew the person who shot him. He was like cousin Eddie or some drug dealer or something and paid him to do it. And I
Starting point is 00:29:53 think he had him shoot him to live and to gain again sympathy. And also the story of that there is someone out there or some people out there trying to annihilate my whole family and you should feel sorry for me. After that, he went to rehab. Everybody loses weight when they're either getting divorced or on murder for killing their family. So he's slimmed down a lot and there are some crazy, kind of funny moments, one being that I saw, which was a TikTok, because we got to make some flight of it,
Starting point is 00:30:30 where his brothers on the stand, testifying to his horrible drug addiction. And he says, you know, I mean, he had diarrhea. And I don't mean diarrhea on the toilet. I mean, in the pants, in the car, like, can't get out, and the camera pants, because this is all being filmed, and... Alec Baldwin, Alec... Murdo is sitting there, like...
Starting point is 00:30:53 And then there's a guy behind him, like, shaking, and said, like, I've been there. I've been in the car with diarrhea in my pants. And it's just like... And this TikTok that went out was like, the writing on it was like... When you're up for murdering your family, but then the world still knows that you had like horrific diarrhea and not on a toilet in a car. In it like, I mean, so I mean, there's so much to it,
Starting point is 00:31:18 there's so many elements of the housekeeper, her testimony doesn't match his testimony the caregiver So he said he was visiting his mother who has Alzheimer's and the caregiver said he did come during that that night of the killing She said he was only there for 20 minutes. He she also said he told her remember I was here for 30 to 40 minutes She's like you were only here for 20 He also, you know, there was also this discrepancy about this blue tarp that had gun residue in it. And at one time, the caregiver said she saw it.
Starting point is 00:31:54 And at the other time, she said, well, I don't know if I saw it. Then this other kind of weird thing happens where a GoFundMe starts for the caregiver because she's been so traumatized having to give testimony. And then the attorney, one of the attorneys who was going after him representing Mallory Beach's family actually gave the caregiver $1,000 just now during the trial.
Starting point is 00:32:16 So they thought that was going to screw up everything and the defense thought that looked really shady. I really don't. I don't think that's going to make a difference. I think he probably just was being nice and felt like, okay, I'll help this woman. You know, she didn't have a, you know, a huge, great job before and now she's taken off all this time and she's been traumatized and has to speak in this trial. So I'm just going to contribute like I do for everybody's go fun me. But there's so many elements.
Starting point is 00:32:46 I hope I did a good job. I mean, there is the three-part Netflix doc, which I definitely think is excellent. I think there was one before that, but this one is out now. And this one interviews all the kids that knew Paul, he's the son who died, who was killed, explained his relationship with the housekeeper who mysteriously died on their property this other kid Sam Smith who was gay who had a mysterious death that they
Starting point is 00:33:15 So we're somehow involved in that all gets explained. It's that's not that's not part of prosecuting him so but it's it all adds to the craziness of the story and that is on Netflix and its three parts. And you know, his Paul's girlfriend is a huge part of that. It is just fascinating. So, well, problem, I don't know if we'll probably not know until next week, I think, but maybe they'll finish their final closing statements by the end of the week and then the jury will have to go and think about it. But I think that he took the stand, Alex, to try to save himself because he figures,
Starting point is 00:33:58 I'm going to do 20 years for all the crimes of stealing from all my clients. So at least if I get off from the murder, I'd eventually get out and have some life. So I've got nothing to lose. So I am gonna take the stand even though many people advise their clients who are up for murder, not to take the stand, I think he did wanna take the stand because he was like, you know, hopefully they'll say,
Starting point is 00:34:23 you know what, there is enough doubt. They're at the timeline and there is enough experts to stuff that I'm not 100% convinced that he actually killed his wife and son with two different guns. And so we're going to say not guilty on that. I think he's going to get guilty. That's my prediction. But this story is just absolutely amazing and horrible and tragic and if it was a movie you wouldn't believe it. Okay. Speaking of juicy crimes and juicy things that I had
Starting point is 00:34:55 on my show, I had Jumon a kid on my show. She was the subject of an episode of American Greed in which she told the story on my show about how she hired this assistant. She, this woman was a mom. She was a business woman. She was classed. She was connected in LA to help her do things and after working with her for a couple years or the first year she discovered around then that she had stolen some money from her. She forgave her and then found out it was over $1 million in the end. She went for it. She met with prosecutors. She had her financial person help her drive this case. The woman has gotten, um, fortunately, 51 months. She also owns this restaurant in Phoenix called breakfast bitch. And, um, and people love the place to get breakfast.
Starting point is 00:35:51 I was just there to not go there. Um, and, you know, so in her plea to get less time, she said, please, I have all these employees. I have this restaurant. This was my redemption. I admit that I did this awful stuff to this woman. But even though she was like a career con woman, she'd been in and out of jail. The story is amazing. She did get 51 months, but they said she could do it in Phoenix.
Starting point is 00:36:20 So she knew it in Phoenix. She has 51 months. Hopefully she'll do the majority of that. So there was a little conclusion there. Kate Middleton and William are on like a weird kind of, in my opinion, unusual, not typical, very, not very much like them, like doing a lot of press. They went to a spin class and they're wearing their suit and her outfit and she tapped his
Starting point is 00:36:53 ass and at the BAFTAs and people thought that was sexy. They've been cheeky, they've been fun. I think it's a great move. I think they need to come out and, you know, again, ignore all of the book, what the book says, the spare. But now they're actually like, reminding people like, we are the prince and princess, we are here, we have the three cute kids,
Starting point is 00:37:22 we are standing in England, we have a hot hot marriage and we're fun and we're enough Okay, we're enough and we are down with each other and we're horny and we're fun So that's happening Meanwhile Megan Markle according to page six and sources Megan Markle was disappointed that Harry had very little money when they met was disappointed that Harry had very little money when they met. According to this, Megan thought that he was worth, Harry was worth millions or even billions. But then she realized that they would not be able to afford their current lifestyle if they were still working members of the Royal Family according to Tom Bauer,
Starting point is 00:37:59 who's the author, who wrote the book about them in 2022. In 2021 Forbes estimated that Harry's net worth was 10 million, including his inheritance from Diana. That's really not that much. That really is not good enough for Megan. So by being cut off, then they were cut off from the $34 billion estate when they left the row family. When they started the archwell and they got paid
Starting point is 00:38:25 between 100 million and 150 million for the Netflix and the podcast, he also got a 20 million dollar advance for his book. Financially, they are killing it right now. They are doing great. But they're not so rich that he is not doing this is crazy. He is doing a like streamer. He is going to sit down with trauma experts for a mental health thing where he's going to talk to them and you can watch it for I think $33.33 and 99 cents. You can stream this, which I'm sure he's getting a huge portion of that and I mean that did kind of shock me like is it ever gonna be enough?
Starting point is 00:39:11 but I Don't know if baby partial some of that money is going to charity. I don't know so I don't know oh So then you get the book for the 3399 and you get to watch the see. So it's another way to sell the book, but still, it's a money grab that, but I don't know. I'm just, I'm just saying, they're smart about how they're making their money. They really are. So he also told Stephen Cobair that if he was to come back,
Starting point is 00:39:43 he just would like to be an elephant. So from being a prince to an elephant. I mean, I'm sure you could write a book about being an elephant and how hard his life was Again, he said if my mom was alive. I don't believe that my brother and I would be having these kind of conflicts So moving on to the next royal family and I'm talking about the Royal Family of America, not the Kardashians, the Gorgas, the Gorgas, because I'm going to use Theresa's main a name. Theresa Gorga versus Joe Gorga. Real Housewives of New Jersey season is out.
Starting point is 00:40:19 I watched the episode last night. There's a lot to discuss on this. Okay. I spent the weekend in the rain watching the first three seasons, or at least the first episode of the third season of New Jersey. I just was like so curious. And boy, was there a lot of cherry wood cabinetry, a lot of faux Italian walls. I mean, that everyone had cherry wood cabinets in a kitchen. I just had a lot of black and white granite. Anyway, it's really amazing how the show started. It's really amazing how really wacky and strange Danielle, Stobb came off as,
Starting point is 00:41:05 and so the first two seasons does not involve Melissa. And, you know, yeah, Teresa's pretty likeable Caroline Manzo loves her, like they're also close, and then at the reunion of the second show, Danielle says, to her, you didn't acknowledge your nephew to Teresa. And that's the famous thing where Teresa's like, what?
Starting point is 00:41:34 She goes, you didn't go to the hospital when your nephew is born and she goes, and it is amazing. And then Teresa's mind just snaps. And that's when she's like, you will not break out my family. And that's when she pushes Andy down and she that's when she's like, you will not break out my family. And that's when she pushes Andy down and she's screaming and she's like, and she's so furious. And I'm like, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Did she now know, I still am confused, I DM Theresa. And I'm watching this. What made you so angry? Like, and she said, I did visit my nephew in the hospital. I absolutely did. And I didn't know that that Melissa was talking to Danielle at that time, but I knew my family was having problems and for her to bring up anything with my family just like infuriated me because
Starting point is 00:42:26 I didn't want that out there basically is what she was saying so then I was thinking I Go but so what if you even if you didn't visit your sister-in-law and she had her third child while you have four children You didn't make it over in the 48 hours that the kid was at the hospital before he came home. Why would have that been such a big deal? And she's like, but I did go. I go, okay, it's fine that you went. And this is where I'm like, this is about East Coast Italians.
Starting point is 00:42:58 This is, so I put it out there. I did like a story or something. And I got so many people, I go talk to me East Coast Italians because there was a time when we had family members that were married to East Coast Italians. And let me tell you something, I was a young girl and I was in college and it was for my nieces and nephews, they're dad's Italian. I was in college and it was for my nieces and nephews,
Starting point is 00:43:25 they're their dad's Italian. And I had to give the nicest gifts, I had no money, I had to make sure that they're beautifully wrapped, they had to be labels otherwise. In a joking way, I'd get shit talked about me, okay? And it was so different than my family because now my kids and I, we don't even exchange gifts. They don't even want anything.
Starting point is 00:43:46 But I was like, I needed to get the tickle me Elmo when I was like 21, like 24 years old. I got a tickle me Elmo for them, which was so hard to get. Designer clothes, it could never be like a target outfit, nothing like that. And it was just very lab, it was just very much about the gifts. And it was very much about, did you who visited, how often did you come to the hospital? And their dad was in the hospital and it was very, it was bad, it was a bad situation. But we noticed, like my dad would notice, oh did you notice that like the relatives are all kind of keeping tabs on how often we've gone, how often they're going, who's, and I just think that's kind
Starting point is 00:44:30 of a cultural thing that doesn't exist in other families. And so, and then I, and then people were saying also the girl, the oldest girl in the Italian family is sort of the keeper of the brother. And they're very close. And then she is the one that always plans the events, is in charge of the events. And people wrote me and said, oh my god, I married an Italian. And his sister is nice to me. But she still treats me like I just met her brother when we've been married 10 years.
Starting point is 00:45:02 And so I do think there's this dynamic that makes the show so interesting. And just like the royals have their dynamic, I think some Italian families have this dynamic of like, you hurt me and they are so close and there is such a love between Teresa and Joe because they were so close and there's only two of them, that these snubs and these dices and these jabs,
Starting point is 00:45:30 they just cannot get over it. And then put on top of it that, I think I've said this before, I think Teresa absolutely wanted the show to be her thing. I think she wanted to do the show, she was doing the show, she was successful at the show,
Starting point is 00:45:44 she liked having the show be her thing alone and then having parties and inviting them. We saw I saw Melissa at two of her parties. Her daughter's Christening and her housewarming. Melissa was there. It wasn't like she wasn't inviting Melissa and Joe to her events because that's what I originally thought. I thought she was purposely keeping Joan Melissa away from cameras and producers for the first two years And that's that when they were like F you now we're gonna be on the show surprised
Starting point is 00:46:10 That's what I thought that wasn't the case she was inviting them but There's you know reports that she possibly told other cast members Hey, don't talk to Melissa at my parties because I don't want cameras to get on her. That's never been proven, but that's what other people that are like pro-Melissa think. I think Melissa has every right to be on the show and Joe. I can see why they wanted to do it. They, you know, Melissa, even Caroline said Melissa and Teresa are the same person.
Starting point is 00:46:41 They don't necessarily like each other that much, but it's because they're the same person. They're very much alike. And Melissa says, you know, one time I used this photographer to take photos of the kids, and Teresa was like, why did you steal my photographer? And she's like, I don't know, I liked your photographer, why couldn't I use the photographer? And she's like, well, I don't want everybody,
Starting point is 00:46:59 you know, having the same kind of look of my photos as me. I don't blame them. It reminds me, I did a photo shoot with somebody that made me feel like I was the most special person on earth. And oh my God, we're gonna do all these different looks with you. And then I saw that like a few months later, he did the exact same outfit, the same pose, the same look,
Starting point is 00:47:19 with someone kind of similar to me. It's like, it's not a big deal, but you're like, oh, okay, I don't like love that. I thought, this is a more unique thing. So Teresa was thinking of Hollywood back even when she was just a housewife before the show. So it's still confusing why they can't get along and why Joe says he's so hurt,
Starting point is 00:47:42 but stuff that she has brought up, she just did a, this is what she just was on, Axis Hollywood. And she said, Joe only came to visit me once the whole year I was at the prison one time. And that's when the cameras were there. And we also remember that Melissa was not on the list, and she said, no, I didn't put Melissa on the list to visit me because we weren't getting along, and I didn't want her to visit me. But Joe was.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Now, why did Joe only go once? I'm assuming it's a pain in the ass to go visit someone in prison, just like it might be to go visit someone in the hospital, but you do it. And you know, each month probably went by and he just didn't do it. And because his wife couldn't go, maybe that pissed him off too, because he is very much like, you don't include my wife in the wedding, you don't get me. They, a lot of people think that this has been their whole storyline keeping this fight
Starting point is 00:48:44 going. I don't think so. I think that Gorgas are definitely interesting enough just watching them drink and be funny and just watching them. I don't need them to have a storyline and I don't need their storyline to be that we fight with Teresa. But I mean, it is just a fascinating thing. I'm not necessarily on anyone's side. I think it stems down from their dynamic.
Starting point is 00:49:08 I think it's cultural Italian. I think it's older Italian sister younger brother. I think sister-in-law, it's really unfortunate. But then also the analyzing of like you didn't invite this person to your wedding. And it's like she's 50 years old. If she doesn't want These people at her wedding you should have just let it go But he's making he's holding on to that. So then last night she has a party a housewarming and she calls him Hi, Joe. Are you coming to my house? Why warming and he goes I don't know
Starting point is 00:49:39 Louis like your sister loves you. Why why don't you talk to her? Why don't you steer? It hurts too much to steer. I'm like, then you really don't wanna make up. You really almost, you don't. And so I think in Teresa's opinion, she's like, you really don't wanna hang out with me. And therefore, I'm the one that's really hurt because I do wanna hang out with you. I just think this could go on forever and it's so many layers and it's really sad because
Starting point is 00:50:07 I think they may look back just like when Kyle and Kathy cried and they said, we've lost so many Christmases and holidays. We don't want to do that anymore because I think they can have fun when they're like hanging out, but it's so tit for tat and there's so much competition and there's so much jealousy. And then of course, you get the whole, all these people that are either team Melissa team, Teresa and giving their opinions and all of this. And then Teresa says, everyone who's here, so then Joe doesn't come, he goes, I'm not coming. But then Melissa comes.
Starting point is 00:50:44 And so she's all upset that Joe's not there. And then Teresa says, all of you are here because you are our chosen family. And they're like, that's a diss to Joe and Melissa. And it's like, if Joe was there, and I don't think that's a diss, I think people say that. I think people say, you're my chosen family.
Starting point is 00:51:00 If you're here, you're family. How is that a diss to your real family? But then someone say, yeah, it is because you didn't, you're family. How is that a diss to your real family? But then someone said, yeah, it is because you didn't invite Melissa's sister. The sisters absolutely did mean tweets at the famous Christening party where he's like, walk away the first time he was on camera filming for the Christening party.
Starting point is 00:51:19 She goes, well, then why did you invite me? And Melissa's sister goes, I think it was a technicality. Like just like memes. So even if they've made up and even if they've had some fun times over the years, she's like, I don't really think I need the Melissa. I don't think I need all of Melissa's family enjoying my, you know, a thousand dollar ahead party.
Starting point is 00:51:41 I just don't think I do. Like, should have thought about that all the, in the last 13 years of you being dicks to me. So, but I think him not going, why wouldn't you go? Why wouldn't you, exactly? Why wouldn't you just go for an hour? If you actually wanna make up, why wouldn't you go? Is it because this adds to the drama
Starting point is 00:52:00 or is because you really are like, fuck it. Like, I don't need to make her feel like, like, we're good. I wanna know we're not good. So, that's a lot. Meanwhile, Jennifer Aiden's husband, who's a plastic surgeon, is like, feels very much over her. It was revealed last season that he had had an affair
Starting point is 00:52:21 many years back before the show started. It reminds me a lot of real half-sides of Miami, the dynamic between Lenny and Lisa. He was a plastic surgeon. She revealed he had an indiscretion and now they're divorced. I'm not wishing this. I'm saying it's classic. It doesn't look good. He seems annoyed.
Starting point is 00:52:43 He seems not into her. She's like, don't you find him? Don't you find that I'm this or that and he's like not really and so I Think they're gonna be in a little bit of trouble also Jackie Jackie. It's kind of sad They they have demoted Jackie and it's like she's barely being featured Jackie did an interview where you know she has had a needing disorder that was her storyline she's needing to sort of for like whatever 20 years and she's written a book about having a needing disorder and that's coming out.
Starting point is 00:53:19 I'm gonna say something and I've said it before I don't think that is something to talk about storylines. If it's your story, if it't think that is something. It talk about storylines. If it's your story, if it's your life, I hate that people say storylines. If it's your life, it's your life. As far as something that people want to sink their tooth, Keith and read or talk about, it's not an in-newsworder. The Bravo audience member that's a working mom that has a bunch of little
Starting point is 00:53:42 kids and finally puts them to bed and then crawls into bed at 9.30 to watch her housewives. You know what, she doesn't wanna care about your eating disorder and she doesn't wanna know about your alien, you know, your parents who are aging and their ailments. Even if that's your life, Bravo, I wouldn't feature it. I wouldn't, the only thing that they want to see
Starting point is 00:54:03 that's sad besides if just your wealth and having fun. If you've got a sad story, it's got to be that your husband's a dick and that he's cheating. Okay, that's all they want to see because then that makes them go, wow, this girl's rich, she's thin, she's happy, she appears to be happy, but her husband's cheating on her. This is what I want to see at night at night after I'm exhausted. I'm sorry. We're awful people. That's it. We don't want to see about, you know, the fact that you struggled. So anyway, Jackie is furious that people are on ozempic. Furious. She's like, I go to dinners and nobody's ordering.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Err! And I'm like, listen, I'm sorry that Err, and I'm like, listen, I'm sorry that something like this didn't exist when you struggled. I'm sorry, but I don't think it's like we're supposed to feel bad now that you're angry about it. You're angry that you're no longer on the show. They barely feature her. It's like, and she's just trying to like catch eye contact with somebody, the camera's on her. And it's just too bad because I think she's like a nice person.
Starting point is 00:55:06 I just think the wave is run. Her husband's hot. I think they're like having the husband because it's like half the show is the husband's. But I don't, I don't know. I don't think people are gonna be into buying Jackie's book just like they weren't into buying that Mormon.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Okay, let me talk about real housewives of Potomac. This is really juicy. We just finished the second part to reunion. And this, as I said before, is the most sexual show ever. And this does have some juicy stuff you can sink your teeth into. This, okay, let's just start with the latest, which is Juan Dixon and Robin Dixon. They were divorced, then they were dating, then they got engaged, and now they're announced they were married. It came out recently that the Metacirl on DMs during COVID in which they met in person. The girl has spoken. They said they did get intimate. He said, I just went to a hotel room and paid for a hotel room for this stranger because it's COVID and I'm a good person.
Starting point is 00:56:19 She believes him to and off to marry him. Then just a couple days ago, someone submitted a photo of Juan Dixon who is a coach of a college basketball team at a laundry mat with a female coach of that team of the at the school too. And they said, oh my god, they're hugging and touching and everything. Someone's like, no, there's no evidence of them hugging or touching. They don't maybe they just are doing their teams laundry together. The girl has since done like a fun photo on her own social media, holding like laundry detergent with one and like get a life.
Starting point is 00:56:57 And other people are like, okay, maybe they're not like screwing, but I still don't think this is a great look for Robin's husband, you know, and for Robin to be like, haha, isn't that funny? No, they weren't doing anything wrong. It's pretty bad. Robin also comes off hypocritical in the reunion because she says, no man should be alone with no married man should be alone with a woman. Of course her husband was when he was in the lobby paying for that hotel room. And everything should be on camera in which she didn't share the whole infidelity story
Starting point is 00:57:36 on camera. She shared it on her Patreon afterwards in which Andy really scolded her. So then there's this girl, Candace. And Candace has a husband who's a chef and his whole storyline. I mean, Jizelle said that, oh, he made her feel uncomfortable once. She's like, screw you. You have no storyline. And she's pretty harsh.
Starting point is 00:57:59 She's like, you and your dwindling uterus should have been your storyline. But instead instead you chose to try to take my husband down because Jizal had to get a his to wreck to me. And she's like, that should have been your storyline. And you didn't want, which you probably was like, I listen to juice scoop and it's not that juice you have a story. What's juice here is that your husband might be a creep, which is true, but not fair, because he didn't do nothing wrong.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Then there's Ashie Darby, who really was a real dumb dumb. She marries his old ugly Australian, has two kids with him, never signed a prenup, doesn't have any money, didn't utilize the platform to try to get a job or a career going besides being a real housewife. All she does is TikToks, which I don't think pay her anything. And she says she like does not do well at all. And the guy, Michael Darby, is like worth millions and millions, like, I don't know, it was like $60 million or something crazy. And she is living in a house that their LLC owns. So he can come in anytime. And it's not even her own home and so she
Starting point is 00:59:06 Was probably when she met him being that he was married before and she was this young thing She probably was like I don't need to sign a prenup. I trust you. I don't want you to think I'm a gold digger It's fine and Then they were supposed to do a post-knup or something because he got caught cheating and but he listened Don't try if you're gonna marry a really rich guy whose older who post-nuff or something because he got caught cheating. But he listened. Don't try, if you're gonna marry a really rich guy who's older, who was a cheater, and maybe you were the mistress, don't say I don't wanna pre-nap,
Starting point is 00:59:34 to appear like I'm care for the right reasons. Get the pre-nap, get the pre-nap, and have those things in that if I stay this long, I get this much, if there's I stay this long, I get this much, if there's indiscretion, I get an extra bonus amount of money. If I have a baby, I get this much next baby. And if he doesn't want to marry you because you asked for that, then just think of Ashley Darby and say, you know what?
Starting point is 01:00:02 Then you don't trust me. I don't trust you. Let's not get married because it's not going to work out. Then, me, this girl, Mia, she is, talks about that she's bisexual, she lets her husband mess around with her girlfriends, providing there's no predatration. She likes to look at other girls with ginas because she was interested in one day being a gynecologist. She also says she's a CEO of the Joint Chiropractic that her husband owns, but now they've been kicked out of the business by his brothers so she has no job. And she had a best friend that they bought a porch for that everyone thought that they were swinging or lesbians together. And
Starting point is 01:00:41 she then goes on to say that this girl, Dr. Wendy, who's very educated, that she was cheating with Cynthia Bailey's ex-husband, Peter. And then she goes, and they're like, what, have you ever gotten with Peter since you know him, Mia? And she goes, no, but I slept with his girlfriend once. So much sex in this thing, then they go to a strip joint, okay, they did that in the season. A girl's strip joint where girls
Starting point is 01:01:10 are stripping, who knows how much like sexual trauma these girls had growing up. They're flapping their faces while they're sucking on lobster and steak. And then the doctor Wendy and Mia makeup and our getting drunk up tequila and they like almost make out and look at each other's koo cheese. They're like, oh, everyone showed each other. They're vaginas and we all looked at each other's vaginas. I have never, I just had a girl's weekend. We never did that. I've been living in a sorority house.
Starting point is 01:01:44 I went to an all-girl high school. We never looked at each other's vagina's we never made out out of boredom Anyway, so this is a very sexual show. Oh and Karen the quant the queen Dawn gone dumb She's got some boyfriend who's got blue eyes that she's had forever who she's denying and they're calling out so this is so much swinging lesbianism, infidelity, cheating, inappropriate advances that are unfounded, homosexuality of Michael Darby's part from previous seasons where he grabbed a camera man,
Starting point is 01:02:18 a male man, a camera man's ass, so much, and we still have one episode left. Paraselton had her son named Phoenix. They took a beautiful photo with Kathy. As you know, Phoenix is the same name of Doreet's daughter. She's got two kids to read. Jagger and Phoenix mind you. And and it was funny because Paris writes love love our little angels first photos so much.
Starting point is 01:02:45 Thank you for the collective you, whatever captured it. And Doreet wrote, she's perfection. I don't know if she's being starkly because it's a boy, but, or because her daughter's name's Phoenix. And she's like, let's just remind everybody, I had the name first. Whatever they're filming, they they celebrated a crystals 40th birthday in which I was not
Starting point is 01:03:09 invited it was this weekend I would have really liked to have gone they they went to the rain and through the rain and they had fun and they all were like kissing each other not a sexual way but having fun and everything but then Kyle wrote like when we were all so happy so it's like oh my god what happened after the party like just so you know you and though we look like we all getting along in the party girls get ready for a fun season because we're still gonna hate each other and it's gonna still be some start happening. Oh when I talked about Peter Thomas who I just was talking about that's Cynthia Bailey's ex-husband who has these clubs called bar one.
Starting point is 01:03:46 He had a crazy thing happen. He had someone who at his bar say that he pushed her down, then came back and was even more drunk, and then grabbed her by the neck so she filed assault charges. It went to a full trial today, and he was exonerated. Just weird. I thought there was no evidence, and so good for him. while today and he was exonerated. Just weird. I thought there was no evidence and so good for him. I hope it didn't happen.
Starting point is 01:04:10 This other guy on TikTok, I mean, the people that are now talking about housewives, this guy's name Winston Land. No, Winston, Winston to land. He told some juicy scoop. He said, remember how Giselle from Real Real House to Potomac, is married to this pastor who has like eight different baby mamas or something? He's this big pastor that someone referred to as pastor Holyhor.
Starting point is 01:04:35 I think that might have been the grandam. He believes the rumor is that whenre from Atlanta was with her husband, God, I forgot that he had her husband's name, but he went to prison. And when she was with him, she was talking to somebody and her husband said she's having an affair. And it was Jacelle's ex-husband, Pastor Holyhorr, Pastor, whatever his name is, with Apollo. Apollo apparently believed that she was seeing Jacelle's former husband, the pastor, at one time, and that's why Jacelle and Fadre don't like each other.
Starting point is 01:05:19 I don't know if that's true, but I don't know, and I don't know if those two girls are going on an ultimate girls' trip together, but book don't know. And I don't know if those two girls are going on an ultimate girls trip together, but book the two of them on the next one, please. Sex the city, the cab light theory has been revisited by Bustle magazine. This was, you could remember from Sex the city. It was around the time when Miranda was
Starting point is 01:05:42 buying her own apartment, which 25 years ago, whenever it was 20 years ago, was a big deal, even in New York, that a single woman would buy a home without a husband or a fiance or whatever. So then she goes, so they're always talking about like, how does it work out? And she said, listen, men are like cabs and they get married when, when the right one comes along and the lights on. Wait, how does that work? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:10 So the right one cuts, yeah, the right, the cap, it's like you're waiting for a cab, right? So the guys, the guys, okay, that's it. Okay, so you're the girl waiting for the cab. And when the cab's lights comes on, that's when that man is like, you know what, at this time in my life, I'm ready to get married. I'm ready to get married, and I hope the next girl I meet is the one. I'm not screwing around anymore. I'm not just trying to like bone as many chicks as possible.
Starting point is 01:06:37 I'm looking for the one. And if you're the one, then that's it. It might not be necessarily the love of his life. It's like, he liked you enough, but the time is right. I totally think that theory makes a lot of sense. And I think women, this is a comforting theory to women because how many times have you ever heard about a girl that's like, oh my God, it's with my boyfriend for three years. And we didn't, we talked about married, we never did.
Starting point is 01:07:04 We finally broke up amicably. And then five months later, he's engaged to someone else and he's only dated for four months. How the hell does that happen? How did he know? And then someone said, well, now he's ready to get married. You know, I kind of think it's a little of both. I think I do think guys might be,
Starting point is 01:07:25 make the decision still, even though things are so much more balanced as far as like women, it's not weird that a woman would buy a place by herself. It's respected. Women, there are more female, single female homeowners, and there are single male homeowners. But I think that, I do think there comes a time in men and women's lives. When I was, I remember I woke up one day at 27 and I was like, from now on, I'm only dating guys that have potential for marriage. I really, and I said it to and I was engaged within like whatever
Starting point is 01:08:01 less than two years after that. After I kind of just like made that decision, like I'm not, because I would go on dates for food, like a hungry or like for material or for whatever, like, oh, I just want to see, like, I'm not interested in this guy, but this will make for a good story. Like I always had to come up with content for my standup. And so, and I think even now that everyone has a podcast, probably a lot of girls are going on dates just to like have something to talk about on Tuesday when they record their show. But I do think people will say like okay now is the time. So um but men were been chimed in this article and we're like that's not true like you know it's the woman who I really love and. like, you know, it's the woman who I really love and, or you're like a Haley Bieber or a Hilarie Baldwin
Starting point is 01:08:48 or a Megan Merkel and you decide who you want and you make the guy think that this perfect woman walked in. I don't know, I think it can work all different ways, but I think it's an interesting concept, but I do think guys kind of decide once their career is in a certain place and they have a certain amount of money that they're more open to hopefully finding the woman of their dreams. And the woman they're most compatible woman might have been their girlfriend in the dorms
Starting point is 01:09:21 freshman year, but you weren't, you know, you had to stow your wild oats and all that stuff. And that just might be the case. And that's why sometimes if you don't think that, um, that you were the woman of your husband's dreams and maybe his old girlfriend was maybe say, you know what, I don't think you should go to that high school reunion. And I think we should share a Facebook page. Maybe you have to be that woman because that's when people find them the love of their life. They're past girlfriend. Very scary. Real housewives of Miami is real good. And Larsa Pippin was on Tamron Hall and Tamron Hall was really giving it, really given it really asking her the hard questions about why she is dating Michael Jordan's son. Michael Jordan and her husband were like adversaries on the court.
Starting point is 01:10:14 They weren't close. They have some big long juicy scoop history with basketball. And she was just adamant just saying, you know what, we were friends first. And we just really get along and we're like best friends. And his parents are happy for us, and my family's happy, and there's really no big deal about it. It's just like, I, she's like, yeah, but you're 16 years apart. She's like, yeah, and my husband was 10 years older than him.
Starting point is 01:10:38 I think she came, came off great. I think she's a really big asset to the show and I'm glad that after Kim Kardashian dumped her as a friend, I'm glad that she's like living her own life and it all works out perfectly. Letter date, Michael Jordan, son, who cares? If you want to date or she's not going to have any more kids, you know, let her have some fun. Okay. Lars, I mean, Lisa's husband is dating the Catharina who I talked about with Spencer. And he is Lenny, the plastic surgeon, and they have this awful divorce.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Meanwhile, Lisa has a boyfriend too, but they went to some event or went at Mar-a-Lawgo in Florida and someone spotted that she wore the exact same dress, so good for her for recycling and look, and purse to the wedding with Lenny as she did with her ex-husband at some other event. With like the same leg out, except she's like a little tanner or maybe the lighting is different, and a different shoe, but the dress is exactly the same and the Dolcein Gabbana bag. And also she's doing ads where she is like a stockbroker,
Starting point is 01:11:53 like some app of like doing stockbroker. So good for her, but kind of weird, kind of interesting. Also Jen Shaw, everyone's favorite attorney, Ron Richards, shared that in trying to get the retribution of all the crimes that Jen Shaw has done, they are trying to get the money from her cameo account. So if you got a cameo from Jen Shaw before she went to prison, feel good about yourself because that $50 or whatever is going to go to the $9 million that she owes. They're trying to get that money. So I think it's going to be very hard if
Starting point is 01:12:30 you're going after the cameo money to ever get these millions together. This is, I'm going to end on this crazy story. This is very sad. There is this beautiful influencer named Abby. Abby Choi, named Abby Choi, she's really pretty. She's a mother of four. So she was married. She's in Hong Kong. She was married to this one guy. They had two kids.
Starting point is 01:12:57 They got divorced. And then she was, then she married like one of the richest men in Hong Kong and had two more. And she went missing and they now have arrested her first husband, his brother, his father, and his mother. She has not to be held in custody, but she was charged with obstruction of justice. And in tracking surveillance cameras around the city, the brother she was very close to, her ex-brother-in-law, any often was her driver, I guess,
Starting point is 01:13:33 because she was so rich, she still wanted to employ him. He, the last was seeing them together. Then there was some loft that was also leased by the family. They researched it all and they found her body dismembered. There was legs in certain places and arms in certain places. And they're still trying to find a tour. So the head was in a, the head was in a suit pot all in this place.
Starting point is 01:14:07 Oh, this skull had a hole in it. So I think they shot her and then dismembered her so that the body wouldn't be found. But they, I guess, found it all in these different places and the garbage nearby and pleasted like a really good job and they've arrested them all. And they believe that the motivation was money, whether she owed them money or there was money from the divorce or something a few million dollars.
Starting point is 01:14:32 The first family, though, the dad, her father-in-law, was a former cop. So the fact that he did this too, they're like, he probably knew how to possibly get away with it. So the motivation is still a little sketchy, but I definitely think they have the right people and her husband's devastated, but she was like on covers of magazines and everyone loved her and she was beautiful,
Starting point is 01:14:54 so she's left for, you know, four kids. And, but it's definitely was, the motivation was money within the divorce because I don't think it was really a crime of passion anymore being that she was already married for years and had two more kids. So I think that's what we're going to figure out but wow just horrible horrible story. Oh and Mary is Dispelling the rumors that she might be gay, which I don't know where those rumors started, but I'm thinking it might have been me. She said, a lot of people want to, a lot of people are speculating on my sexuality and I'm
Starting point is 01:15:31 coming out as straight. The reason people are speculating, including myself, is that she just speaks about this one woman who's her best friend as like a life partner, a soulmate, the greatest person. She gusses when we see the two of them together on camera when they're doing like a zoom or like filming themselves for the show, the way she talks about her rights about her. It was just a lot. And also, I think she just sort of has kind of some, you know, masculine energy. And she's another one of those people that I think it's a shame. I think it's a shame. But hey, it's never too late
Starting point is 01:16:06 and whatever life brings you, oh, someone just sent me there is a new reality show. Are you a late in life lesbian? So they're going to do a show about late in life lesbians. So I'm just saying, Mary, sister wife is gonna last forever. Oh, speaking of sister wife also, Christine, as you know, is in love with the sky.
Starting point is 01:16:29 His daughter has spoken out because people have done the research on this guy and found his family and this girl has a TikTok and unfortunately his wife unalived herself, I will say, when once I think, when many years ago, but I think when the girl was a teenager. And so that came out and they showed her
Starting point is 01:16:52 and she did a cute TikTok where she was like, let me show you some other great things about my mom and she, but anyway, she said, I'm so happy my dad's in love and I'm happy for Christine and I wanna share my dad's in love and I'm happy for Christine and You know, I want to share my mom's story so that other people and other moms that are struggling with mental illness Get the help they need because this was so tragic But day I'm very happy that they're in love and like please into talking about
Starting point is 01:17:19 my dad and our family and everything Respect because obviously he's gonna be featured on the show. Here's another juicy story. Brittany Matthews, who is this girl who's married to a guy who plays football for the chiefs. And Joe Rogan and I did not listen to the episode. This is coming from the New York Post Art article. Joe Rogan was talking about how she's an influencer
Starting point is 01:17:44 and his brother is a TikToker, and they're in the stands and they're filming themselves and she's always declaring her love and, you know, her, she's out there, she's an influencer. So she's a public person who, you know, is probably gaining a lot of people because she is married to a guy who was in the Super Bowl and whatnot.
Starting point is 01:18:03 And Joe Rogan said, just know that a woman that brings that kind of energy and publicity to your marriage as a couple of like, look how supportive I am, look how great I am. She's gonna do that same thing if you ever get divorced. She's going to, it's gonna be, but it'll be in reverse. So she'll be sharing it all. And she took offense to that. And she tweeted,
Starting point is 01:18:27 her name's Brittany Mahomes. That's actually grown-ass man hating on women in general is pathetic. So which of course she's not going to want anyone saying anything rude about her or that she's, you know, a thirsty tiktok or whatever, or that God forbid they ever get divorced. But as a concept in 2023, I actually think it's a pretty profound statement and I don't think it's necessarily hating on women. Women brag about their love on social media. They're on social media more than men. Are there a handful of guys that write a long thing about their wife every birthday, every
Starting point is 01:19:10 Christmas? I follow a few. I'm a little jealous. It'll be like some long thing. It'll be like, you know, how did I get so lucky? Mother of my three kids, gorgeous. I love you more than every other day. But it's rare.
Starting point is 01:19:22 There's a lot of women that do that all the time, whether you roll your eyes when you read it or it's true, or it's really become their career, their relationship is their career. There's a handful of married gay men that I follow, that have made their career about their love for each other and how cute and compatible they are. That's it.
Starting point is 01:19:42 They don't bring any other content to the table. It's just their love. So yeah, I do think that if your whole persona and identity is really wrapped up in your spouse and your relationship and how cute you are and how dedicated you are, yeah, if the divorce comes, I doubt that you'd be silent because you weren't silent about anything else in your life. You weren't private about anything
Starting point is 01:20:08 else in your life. So, what are you saying? Isn't necessarily, I don't think, ripping on her, but just ripping on a person that, if you're sharing everything about your life now, you're going to share, I mean, back in the day when there weren't social media, there would be people that would like spill it all about the divorce at the school or whatever. And you're like, oh my God, I know everything about her divorce. And other people would be like, I had no idea
Starting point is 01:20:34 they had any problems. I was shocked. I was blown away. So it's the same thing. So when the time comes, but I think you probably loved this. That I never even talked about her before. So she probably loves that Joe Rogan and I both talked about her. So you're welcome. Congrats. All right. As you guys know, there's extra juicy scoop every Friday and you can get that
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